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Speaker 1: She's Kirby.
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Speaker 2: Kirby Sommers, as I said, was investigator around the journalist.
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Speaker 2: Kirby was introduced to me for this event by Sonya,
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Speaker 2: which we have to thank Sonya. Kirby is going to
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Speaker 2: tell her own story Oils. All I can say about
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Speaker 2: is that she is a prolific author who has written
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Speaker 2: twenty four books, and from what I can see, they
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Speaker 2: all look very interesting, not just interesting, but look like
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Speaker 2: revelatory books as well. So, Kirby, I'm definitely going to
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Speaker 2: buy at least one of your books, probably a few more,
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Speaker 2: and could you give us a little bit about yourself,
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Speaker 2: your background, and then just maybe launch into the whole
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Speaker 2: Epstein saga as you from your point of view, as
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Speaker 2: you understand it.
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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for inviting me, and so far
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Speaker 3: it's been very nice to be here with you guys.
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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes I'll do a podcast and it doesn't
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Speaker 3: feel so comfortable. So but you guys are amazing and
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Speaker 3: I'm very honored to be here. I myself was trafficked
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Speaker 3: and after that horrible period of my life as an adult,
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Speaker 3: not as a child. Just want to be clear about that.
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Speaker 3: I was hunted down as in my abuser who was
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Speaker 3: part of this cabal that Jeffrey Epstein is a part of,
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Speaker 3: however he is on a higher level. Paid the police
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Speaker 3: captain of Epstein's neighborhood one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
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Speaker 3: to find me for him. He didn't know my name,
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Speaker 3: he didn't know where I lived, and find me he did.
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Speaker 3: And this man we may did everything to ensure that
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Speaker 3: the man I was about to marry and I broke up,
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Speaker 3: so that there is interference in the lives of not
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Speaker 3: just someone like myself, and a coercion and deceit. But
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Speaker 3: it continues, and I will hopefully hear something that happened
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Speaker 3: from Prince Andrew then Prince Andrew against myself and Virginia
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Speaker 3: who became my friend in twenty nineteen after Jeffrey Epstein's arrest,
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Speaker 3: and what brought me to this place and into trying
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Speaker 3: to solve the mystery of who Epstein is began really
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Speaker 3: when I was trying to solve the mystery of why
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Speaker 3: I had three attempts on my life and why FBI
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Speaker 3: agents would appear at my door unannounced, or why the
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Speaker 3: CIA would contact me, and I just did not understand
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Speaker 3: what was happening. In my own life for a great
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Speaker 3: number of years. And later, of course I learned about Epstein.
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Speaker 3: I learned about Robert Maxwell. I knew about Leslie Wexner
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Speaker 3: because my abuser's father, who michellem Rickless, who in fact
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Speaker 3: provided financial support. He was friends with Joe Kennedy and
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Speaker 3: so he provided financial support to j F. Kennedy at
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Speaker 3: the same time that Robert Maxwell's attorney was Kennedy's advisor.
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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of behind the scenes with all
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Speaker 3: of the administrations. And again this did not begin either
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Speaker 3: with my survive with my abuser or with Jeffrey Epstein.
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Speaker 3: This is a continuation of what we are going to
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Speaker 3: be using Epstein as a portal, and I urge you
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Speaker 3: all to look at Epstein as a portal into a
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Speaker 3: world that until now when I think that we're living
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Speaker 3: at a very special time and as unfair as the
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Speaker 3: information that is dropped on to the public in the
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Speaker 3: manner that Diane very aptly mentioned, you know, just drop
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Speaker 3: it all and we're so overwhelmed, or in the way
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Speaker 3: that Sonia has also described, you know, where some of
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Speaker 3: the women have their names are not redacted, their images
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Speaker 3: are not redacted. I think that we are still very
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Speaker 3: fortunate to be able to see one of these. For
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Speaker 3: lack of a better term, I'm just gonna call it
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Speaker 3: a ring. But I in my mind, I look at
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Speaker 3: it as one large ring that we have been given
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Speaker 3: this opportunity because it's never happened before. And I will
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Speaker 3: explain that when I chat with you guys in a
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Speaker 3: little bit, it gives us a look, all of you,
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Speaker 3: if you look carefully and not too quickly, into this
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Speaker 3: really hidden world that has existed with our work. You know,
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Speaker 3: because for a time I thought that I was really
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Speaker 3: trying to live a normal life. It became a real
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Speaker 3: estate broker, but my life was still I was very
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Speaker 3: much interfered with. And then I knew when Epstein was
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Speaker 3: arrested on July ninth, of sorry July sixth of twenty nineteen,
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Speaker 3: that that was my moment to get the last bit
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Speaker 3: of information that I needed to solve my puzzle until
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Speaker 3: I learned about first Harvey Weinstein's because Roman Pharaoh and
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Speaker 3: I communicated when he wrote his wonderful article, I urged
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Speaker 3: all of you to read it. Harvey Weinstein Army Spies.
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Speaker 3: He wrote that for The New Yorker, and at that
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Speaker 3: moment in time, I became aware that, oh, I'm not
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Speaker 3: the because I wrote my memoir a long time ago,
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Speaker 3: I'm not the only person that refers to myself as
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Speaker 3: a sex slave right or as a former sex slave.
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Speaker 3: There are many more of me. So that came first
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Speaker 3: with a Ronan Pharaoh's article where we find some of
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Speaker 3: those characters like at Hooper Rock who Virginia Jeffrey alleged
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Speaker 3: Epstein provided her too, and who was very rough with her.
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Speaker 3: And it included David Boyce, who became one of the
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Speaker 3: attorneys three primary attorneys or the victims of Jeffrey Epstein,
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Speaker 3: although he was on the other side, meaning he was
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Speaker 3: Harvey Weinstein's attorney who hired black youth.
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Speaker 4: And so.
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Speaker 3: I realized early on, oh, I see that there is
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Speaker 3: some gatekeeping, there is some handling of the narrative. But
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Speaker 3: they did not ever think I would show up. So
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Speaker 3: therefore I get I think more harassment then, let's say,
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Speaker 3: even Virginia. Although Virginia got a lot because she was
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Speaker 3: front facing and she was basically the face of the
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Speaker 3: Epstein story. But I urge all of you to know
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Speaker 3: that it began before Epstein. It continues to present day.
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Speaker 3: Was that. Do you have a question about any event
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Speaker 3: that I've said so far, Matthew, Matthew, can you hear me? Yep, yep,
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Speaker 3: no questions. Okay, So what I want to say is
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Speaker 3: that when Jeffrey I seen was in elementary school, he
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Speaker 3: was in a gifted children's program. And that's a really
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Speaker 3: important thing for us to note. And the reason we
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Speaker 3: know this is because when the the birthday book was
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Speaker 3: dropped for his fiftieth birthday party, there were a lot
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Speaker 3: of letters in there, and one of those letters came
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Speaker 3: from one of his teachers. When he was in elementary
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Speaker 3: school and he was in math prodigy. He was very,
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Speaker 3: very smart, both he and his brother. He has brother
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Speaker 3: who's two years younger. His name is Mark. These children's programs,
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Speaker 3: especially for gifted, are usually used in the same manner
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Speaker 3: that the CIA was exposed nineteen seventy five during the
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Speaker 3: Church Committee hearings as using universities. So there's a New
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Speaker 3: York Times article that I often cite, and I often
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Speaker 3: refer to, and I often upload either on my ex account,
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Speaker 3: on my substack, or in many places, because we have
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Speaker 3: written a written narrative of what happened that the CIA
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Speaker 3: for their mk Ultra program, and mk Ultra is an
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Speaker 3: umbrella term for over one hundred and forty different subprograms. However,
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Speaker 3: they would find the universities such as Harvard, and we
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Speaker 3: know that Epstein was connected to Harvard and other universities,
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Speaker 3: that they then can conduct either enlist the help of
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Speaker 3: very gifted let's call the kids, because if you're in university,
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Speaker 3: you're still a kid, and or do other things. So
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Speaker 3: for example, at Harvard, the unibomber was a victim of
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Speaker 3: this that was exposed during the nineteen seventy five Church
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Speaker 3: Committee hearings. This was extended into the Gifted children's programs.
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Speaker 3: And this is why I'm describing this because I believe
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Speaker 3: that Epstein was spotted during this period and because the
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Speaker 3: way he rose up aligns with the way that I
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Speaker 3: have studied the CIA's previous programs in the past, which
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Speaker 3: any of you can do as well. The CIA has
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Speaker 3: a library, you know, online library. You can download a
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Speaker 3: lot of documents. Newspaper archives from the past are also
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Speaker 3: very useful if you want to do your own slooping,
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Speaker 3: and I encourage all of you to do that. And
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Speaker 3: so I believe that he was selected because of his
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Speaker 3: he was considered a mass prodigy. He then went skipped
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Speaker 3: two grade in middle school and he graduated high school
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Speaker 3: at the age of sixteen. Now the family of four,
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Speaker 3: which Sonia covered, they lived in a gated community named Seagate.
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Speaker 3: It's a neighborhood in Brooklyn, New York. They were considered
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Speaker 3: relatively financially stable, stable enough that they were given music lessons.
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Speaker 3: There are photos of Epstein with another it was sort
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Speaker 3: of like a wind instrument, but he studied. He was
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Speaker 3: like like a prodigy. He may not have sounded like
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Speaker 3: prodigy because he had this horrible Brooklyn accent, and I
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Speaker 3: think Sonia referred to that. However, he then was given
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Speaker 3: the ability at the age of fourteen to attend a
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Speaker 3: very very prestigious summer school where later he would be
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Speaker 3: allowed to build a sort of a private residence and
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Speaker 3: where he would he and billn Maxwell would lure and
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Speaker 3: the trap other victims. And that institute is called Interlogan,
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Speaker 3: and it's Interlogan Music Academy in Michigan. He attended that
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Speaker 3: at the age of fourteen. I've spoken to people who
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Speaker 3: attended at the time that Epstein attended Interlogan, and there
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Speaker 3: is a photo that you guys can pull up Interlogan
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Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein fourteen years old, and you will see him
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Speaker 3: at the very far left of the screen of the
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Speaker 3: photograph with other kids of his age. And so later
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Speaker 3: in life, Interlogan would become a place where he will
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Speaker 3: build a cabin, he will donate funds to the music school.
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Speaker 3: Some of the most famous musicians and orchestra of people
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Speaker 3: who you know, who are conductors. They attend this school
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Speaker 3: on a year round basis. The fees are astronomically high.
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Speaker 3: It's my understanding that because he was so gifted, he
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Speaker 3: was allowed in the school on scholarship of sorts. But
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Speaker 3: at the age of fourth so he's already moving into
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Speaker 3: a place. So Interlogan is a place where let's say
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Speaker 3: John F. Kennedy is connected to Gerald Ford is connected
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Speaker 3: to So we see a very young Jeffrey Epstein already
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Speaker 3: connected to presidents of the United States, to very powerful people.
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Speaker 3: And I think this is sometimes overlooked. I want to
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Speaker 3: be able to stop every now and then and let
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Speaker 3: you guys just shoot me a question, because this is
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Speaker 3: very it's very layered, and I want to be able
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Speaker 3: to cover as much as I can. So I'll stop
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Speaker 3: here and wait to see if Diane or Matthew or
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Speaker 3: even Sonia if you have anything to ask me.
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Speaker 5: As of now, I'm good.
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Speaker 3: I'm listening.
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Speaker 5: Fascinated. I knew you'd be able to bring this kind
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Speaker 5: of rich texture to it, so it's fascinating.
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Speaker 3: If you pull up nineteen sixty seven Jeffrey Epstein Interlocke,
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Speaker 3: and you will then find that photo of him at fourteen.
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Speaker 3: That school sent some kids to the White House when
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Speaker 3: Kennedy took office, and also Darryl Ford later would visit
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Speaker 3: the school. Will have brought up the very interesting fact
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Speaker 3: that this is the University of Michigan. He then goes
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Speaker 3: on to attend Cooper Union, another very very interesting school.
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Speaker 3: He goes there for a short time. Cooper Union is
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Speaker 3: where Abraham Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln is associated with that school,
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Speaker 3: so he is able to get into these schools, into
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Speaker 3: these places, into these institutions from a very young age.
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Speaker 3: I've heard no one talk about the Cooper Union connection
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Speaker 3: to Abraham Lincoln. To you, guys are getting things that
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Speaker 3: nobody else has. From there, he moves on to New
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Speaker 3: York University. Now, New York University is very important and
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Speaker 3: It's very important because Roman Polanski at New York University,
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Speaker 3: and it's important for many other reasons. It was a
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Speaker 3: the intelligence agencies, and typically it would be called Five
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Speaker 3: Eyes prior to the creation of Israel. And then I
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Speaker 3: personally call it six Eyes. So we have all the
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Speaker 3: English speaking countries right connected to the what are typically
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Speaker 3: the five by organization, and then we have Israel, so
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Speaker 3: I call it six Eyes. They will put their assets
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Speaker 3: into schools, universities such as New York University. We can
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Speaker 3: talk about this in the future if I come back
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Speaker 3: and talk about how the intelligence apparatus works behind the scenes. However,
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Speaker 3: with Epstein, he then goes to New York University, which
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Speaker 3: has been you guys can look it up. Look New
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Speaker 3: York University spies, and that might yield some information to
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Speaker 3: you at this point. And then from there he is
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Speaker 3: hired to teach at the age of twenty one at Dalton,
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Speaker 3: which is the most elite of the elite school in
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Speaker 3: New York City, no very posh neighborhood on the Upper
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Speaker 3: East Side of Manhattan, actually not far from where he
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Speaker 3: will one day live. He is hired by Donald Barr,
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Speaker 3: who is Bill Barr's father, Bill Barr, who was the
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Speaker 3: Attorney General during Ronald Reagan's administration, later became the Attorney
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Speaker 3: General for Donald Trump's first administration. Bill Barr was an
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Speaker 3: officer of the Office of Strategic Services, typically refer to
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Speaker 3: was the OSS, which is the precursor of the CIA.
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Speaker 3: There is debate as to whether or not Donald Barr
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Speaker 3: brought him in, But I've been able to ascertain that, yes,
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Speaker 3: he did bring him in. He was brought him in
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Speaker 3: from New York University. Now, the year is important, the
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Speaker 3: year is important for many reasons. He brings him in
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Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy four. What else is happening in nineteen
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Speaker 3: seventy four? People, anybody, I'm going to shoot this question
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Speaker 3: now to you guys. What is happening in the intelligence
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Speaker 3: community in the United States in nineteen seventy four CIA? Specifically,
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Speaker 3: anybody David says Watergate?
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Speaker 1: Okay? Good?
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Speaker 3: Because Watergate kicked off a very important thing. It kicked
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Speaker 3: off the the discovery or the the handing of internal
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Speaker 3: documents called the Family Jewels. This document is approximately it's
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Speaker 3: shy of seven hundred pages. It's approximately six hundred and
19:16
Speaker 3: seventy some odd pages long, handed to Seymour Hirsh and
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Speaker 3: wonderful investigative reporter who covered and out.
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Speaker 6: It the wrongdoings, the wrongdoings in Vietnam, and went on
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Speaker 6: to out the murder of a CIA scientist named Frank Olsen.
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Speaker 3: That's a very interesting story. You guys should take a
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Speaker 3: look at that. It's all everything I'm talking about is connected. So,
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Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy four, one of his sources inside the
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Speaker 3: CIA handed Seymour Hirsh this shy of seven hundred page
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Speaker 3: document called The Family Jewels and what is Inside? And
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Speaker 3: I have read those seven hundred almost pages. Inside of
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Speaker 3: these pages and you can read them too. Just pull
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Speaker 3: up Family Jewels, download the pdf. It's free, and inside
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Speaker 3: is a list of all the atrocities committed by CIA,
20:24
Speaker 3: atrocity after atrocity. So Seymour Hirsch writes a series of
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Speaker 3: articles commencing in nineteen seventy four. Specifically, I believe the
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Speaker 3: first one dropped in nineteen in December. If I'm not wrong,
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Speaker 3: I believe the first and The New York Times in
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Speaker 3: nineteen seventy four was read by the upper middle class.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: It wasn't like the daily news. It wasn't like the
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Speaker 3: New York Post. You know, that was for the working man, right,
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Speaker 3: But the New York Times was read by people considered
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Speaker 3: important to the political establishment. The political establishment knew, oh
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Speaker 3: my god, this has come out in the New York Times,
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Speaker 3: and he's writing about this. And so what that led
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Speaker 3: to was Frank Church creating a committee very much like
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Speaker 3: what we have right now to investigate the wrongdoings of
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Speaker 3: the CIA. At the same time, Epstein is removed from
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Speaker 3: the New York University, New York University and hidden, I
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Speaker 3: call it hitten tucked into Dalton. Okay, tucked into Dalton.
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Speaker 3: I don't believe he was. Everybody says, oh, how could
21:52
Speaker 3: he be hired without a college degree? I see it
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Speaker 3: very easily and very plainly. He was removed so that
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Speaker 3: he would not be found because everyone's focus is now
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Speaker 3: on what's the CIA doing, and you know things are
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Speaker 3: coming out, including the schools, the universities, which you know
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Speaker 3: also included New York. You know, so they tuck him
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Speaker 3: into Dalton. They did the same thing with my abuser's father,
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Speaker 3: who was Robert Maxwell. They were both in World War Two.
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Speaker 3: Maxwell was kept in Britain. He was I have the
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Speaker 3: names of the people who even set him up with
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Speaker 3: the publishing company. But what they did with my abuser's father,
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Speaker 3: Michiellemrickles is they shipped him off along with you know,
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Speaker 3: Project paper Clip, and in fact he worked with Von
22:53
Speaker 3: Browner is that how you pronounce his name? For Von
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Speaker 3: brown the Nazi guy with the ships and all of that.
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Speaker 3: They tucked him into the same university that later Leslie
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Speaker 3: Wexner would go to in Ohio. So they tucked him
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Speaker 3: away at Ohio State University. So what they did with Epstein,
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Speaker 3: from what I can tell, is tuk him away as
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Speaker 3: a teacher. He certainly was smart enough into Dalton where he,
23:26
Speaker 3: like Sonya said, you know, he wasn't cut out to
23:29
Speaker 3: be a teacher necessarily, although he tutored a lot of
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Speaker 3: his friends, a lot of his friends. In these documents
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Speaker 3: that we have now been seen shown, you know, we
23:41
Speaker 3: can read, oh his friends say, oh, well he tutored
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Speaker 3: me in math, and I thought he was a great guy.
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Speaker 3: Did he teach himself to be a teacher. No, But
23:50
Speaker 3: that is a very good cover, as it was for
23:54
Speaker 3: Donald Barr, who wrote a very peculiar book. If you
23:59
Speaker 3: guys look up Donald Barr and a book titled Space Relations,
24:04
Speaker 3: which was published in nineteen seventy three. It is the
24:08
Speaker 3: most unusual thing you'll ever see. It is about a
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Speaker 3: space colony run by a female that has sex slaves,
24:18
Speaker 3: teenage sex slaves. You cannot get anything more bizarre than
24:23
Speaker 3: you know, but this is how the community hides there.
24:28
Speaker 3: I don't know what you call an assets agents. I
24:31
Speaker 3: don't really know the right term for what they do.
24:33
Speaker 3: But clearly Donald Barr, you know, once you are a
24:37
Speaker 3: part of the Intel community, you really stay that way.
24:41
Speaker 3: You don't like just retire, and so theoretically, yeah, he
24:47
Speaker 3: walked around looking very much like a Travolta John Travolta
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Speaker 3: in Saturday Night Fever, with the open shirts and the
24:57
Speaker 3: gold chains, mixing with students and doing all that kind
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Speaker 3: of stuff. However, he taught well. The people that were
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Speaker 3: interviewed that were his students afterwards thought he was a
25:13
Speaker 3: little smarmy because he did, after all, still have the
25:18
Speaker 3: Brooklyn patina. Let's say, you know, sort of that he
25:23
Speaker 3: wasn't a swab, and he wasn't wearing those handmade slippers
25:27
Speaker 3: that he would later wear, and he wasn't he didn't
25:30
Speaker 3: know yet what to do with his hair. You know,
25:33
Speaker 3: he had very curly, unruly hair, and so he didn't
25:37
Speaker 3: really look or sound the part, but he had a
25:41
Speaker 3: genius brain. At this point, Ace Greenberg, whose real name
25:49
Speaker 3: is what Sonia said, Alan Greenberg, but people called him
25:53
Speaker 3: Ace of bear Stearns, with whom they would have a
25:58
Speaker 3: lifelong connect and frankly a partnership that no one seems
26:03
Speaker 3: to know about. That also includes Donald Trump, because a
26:07
Speaker 3: Screenberg has always been Donald Trump's. Well he's now dead,
26:12
Speaker 3: But you know what, I'm going to tell you what
26:13
Speaker 3: happened when he died. When a Screenberg died, and I
26:18
Speaker 3: can't remember the year off the top of my head,
26:21
Speaker 3: he bequeathed a million dollars to a certain hospital to
26:27
Speaker 3: be used for what's that pill? That viagra for men
26:33
Speaker 3: who cannot afford it. So on the minds of all
26:36
Speaker 3: of these men is one thing, and one thing only.
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Speaker 3: Can you imagine he bequeaths a million dollars to be
26:44
Speaker 3: used on men who cannot afford viagra, and he dies
26:48
Speaker 3: an old man. Anyway, I dig anybody questioning so far, Sonya,
26:57
Speaker 3: Diane Matthew, anything I've said so.
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Speaker 5: Far, No, I'm enthralled. I love this sort of level
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Speaker 5: of detail, It's fascinating. So no, nothing, and the viagraa
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Speaker 5: thing is kind of the icing on the cake. Really,
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Speaker 5: it just sums up everything that I really believe. So no,
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Speaker 5: all good with me.
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Speaker 3: So what I want to say is that the mainstream
27:22
Speaker 3: narrative tries to make it sound and in particular Julie K. Brown.
27:26
Speaker 3: I became friendly with her. I have protected her, you know,
27:29
Speaker 3: when she has been slammed, I let her editor know,
27:33
Speaker 3: you know, hey, this is happening. And I'm very helpful
27:36
Speaker 3: to people that I think have a good heart. Now, however,
27:39
Speaker 3: she's still part of mainstream and she's still towing the line. Okay. However,
27:46
Speaker 3: not all of the girls that were minors or the
27:53
Speaker 3: younger women who were part of this were poor. Some
28:02
Speaker 3: of them came from Hollywood, such as Courtney Love. Who
28:08
Speaker 3: are we all familiar with Courtney Love? Okay? And I'm
28:15
Speaker 3: going to get back to Courtney Love because her father,
28:17
Speaker 3: Hank Harrison, was the manager for the Grateful Dead during
28:22
Speaker 3: the nineteen sixties at a time where the Grateful Dead
28:26
Speaker 3: were known to be a CIA, you know, created entity,
28:31
Speaker 3: let's call it. And he Hank Harrison, Courtney's father, I'll
28:38
Speaker 3: say it now. He came out and said he's now deceased,
28:42
Speaker 3: but he wrote a book Love Killed because he believes
28:46
Speaker 3: that Courtney Love killed her very famous husband. And I
28:50
Speaker 3: will leave that blank because I want to see how
28:53
Speaker 3: many of you know who her very famous husband is.
28:57
Speaker 3: But he wrote on his Facebook page when he was
29:00
Speaker 3: alive that Courtney, who's had a very strange childhood, by
29:06
Speaker 3: the way herself and who is in Jeffrey Epstein's now
29:09
Speaker 3: infamous book, said that, and I'm reading this verbatim. When
29:14
Speaker 3: victims were born out, they would simply be taken to
29:18
Speaker 3: the desert and buried or taken to see way down
29:23
Speaker 3: and dump overboard. So that are you know, we've heard
29:30
Speaker 3: the news about possibly two girls or two victims who
29:36
Speaker 3: were buried, let's say, at the Zoro Ranch, which is
29:39
Speaker 3: what he called the ranch in New Mexico. But here
29:44
Speaker 3: we have Pank Harrison now to cease talking about his daughter,
29:49
Speaker 3: Courtney Love, who was presented also to Andrew mount Batan Windsor,
29:56
Speaker 3: And we have photos of Courtney Love with Andrew Mounk
29:59
Speaker 3: Batan Windsor basically saying, well, look, my daughter told me this,
30:05
Speaker 3: and I'm going to tell the world and he did
30:08
Speaker 3: in his later years. So like these CIA assets, because
30:13
Speaker 3: one of them became very involved with one of the
30:16
Speaker 3: victims of Epstein and made her his lover. Although I'm
30:22
Speaker 3: not going to name her, but he is one of
30:26
Speaker 3: the three attorneys that primarily represented the victims. That everybody
30:32
Speaker 3: knows these men drink and when they drink, they talk,
30:40
Speaker 3: and so I can only imagine that when Han Karrisen
30:42
Speaker 3: wrote this on his Facebook page, with the history that
30:46
Speaker 3: he has of being an intelligence well, that he was
30:51
Speaker 3: very likely telling the truth. I mean, if there were
30:55
Speaker 3: three attempts on my life that I survived by the
31:00
Speaker 3: grace of God or some miracle of something watching over me,
31:06
Speaker 3: I believe that many people are in fact murdered. Now, Sony,
31:10
Speaker 3: I brought up Bill Clinton, and I want to say
31:12
Speaker 3: at this moment in time that a while ago I
31:18
Speaker 3: wrote a very in depth article and again a lot
31:22
Speaker 3: of my work is on substack about Bill Clinton, and
31:25
Speaker 3: before Jeffrey Epstein became part of Clinton's life, Bill Clinton
31:31
Speaker 3: had another man by the name of Dan Lassiter. I'm
31:36
Speaker 3: going to spell that for you, Lasa tr A lot
31:43
Speaker 3: of that has been scrubbed, but it's not scrubbed in
31:47
Speaker 3: my work, and Dan Lassiter provided Bill Clinton with fourteen
31:54
Speaker 3: year old girls and they would ply them with drink
31:59
Speaker 3: and they would and this is during Arkansas. Now Arkansas
32:04
Speaker 3: is important because Arkansas is where they had the Landing
32:09
Speaker 3: Street strip for the CIA planes and where a lot
32:16
Speaker 3: of that Nina Arkansas stuff and Barry Seal where all
32:20
Speaker 3: of that happened. And it happened on Bill Clinton's watch
32:24
Speaker 3: during the time that he was governor. So during the
32:27
Speaker 3: time that he was governor, Dan Masster would supply him
32:34
Speaker 3: with all the cocaine allegedly that he wanted and all
32:39
Speaker 3: of the children that he wanted. Some of these children
32:42
Speaker 3: would be allegedly murdered. Others would end up being caught
32:52
Speaker 3: in the never ending cycle of the selling one's body
32:57
Speaker 3: in other places like Los Vegas or other gif they
33:01
Speaker 3: were made to disappear. However, if you're stuck in that cycle,
33:06
Speaker 3: you will die. You know, our Virginia died. She was
33:12
Speaker 3: dependent on whatever pills and all of the attacks that
33:16
Speaker 3: come our way, she could not handle it. I don't
33:21
Speaker 3: know if Virginia took her life or if she or
33:28
Speaker 3: if she did not, but I do know that when
33:32
Speaker 3: you are with these very powerful men. The very last
33:36
Speaker 3: thing they want is what we have today, for us
33:39
Speaker 3: to be sitting here talking to the world about the
33:44
Speaker 3: private lives of these men that you know, you're not
33:49
Speaker 3: supposed to know about. So before there was a Jeffrey
33:52
Speaker 3: Epstein in Bill Clinton's life. Again, he had Dan Lassiter
33:58
Speaker 3: who supplied him with children. Now, as far as boys,
34:06
Speaker 3: there are boys, and again the mainstream doesn't want to
34:11
Speaker 3: cover it. I'll bring up one account that happened sort of.
34:16
Speaker 3: There was a lawsuit in two thousand and seven ish
34:20
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight during the time that the Epstein
34:25
Speaker 3: thing surfaced, and it was by a woman, well, a
34:32
Speaker 3: trans woman, beautiful girl, very beautiful, who was procured by
34:42
Speaker 3: a network that frankly existed before Epstein met Glenn. However,
34:50
Speaker 3: she was procured. She was hoping to transition as a boy.
34:55
Speaker 3: She was told, I'll go to this address on seventy
34:58
Speaker 3: first Street. This is the property one of two buildings
35:01
Speaker 3: on seventy first Street that Leslie Wesner gave to Jeffrey Epstein.
35:07
Speaker 3: Nonumber nine remained with Epstein. Number eleven has become the
35:13
Speaker 3: home of Howard Lutnik, who you know is in Donald
35:18
Speaker 3: Trump's administration. For those of you who are huntreamiliar. And
35:23
Speaker 3: by the way, Howard Lutnik is somebody who miraculously escaped
35:27
Speaker 3: what happened at ninet eleven, who was very close with
35:31
Speaker 3: Sarah Ferguson. Sarah Ferguson often stayed at Howard Lutnick's house
35:35
Speaker 3: right next door to Jeffrey Epstein. I happened to know,
35:39
Speaker 3: because I was in real estate for twenty years, that
35:42
Speaker 3: there's an underground tunnel between those two buildings, and because
35:47
Speaker 3: you know, I happened to know, and so we don't know,
35:53
Speaker 3: you know, how these two homes were used once Epstein
36:00
Speaker 3: moved in there. However, what happened was she brought a
36:02
Speaker 3: lawsuit against Jeffrey Epstein and Leslie Wexner. And the reason
36:07
Speaker 3: she included Wexner is because he still legally owned the property.
36:14
Speaker 3: And in New York we have a real estate law
36:17
Speaker 3: that makes it very clear that if you are the
36:21
Speaker 3: owner of a property, you are libel, you are responsible.
36:25
Speaker 3: You are legally supposed to make your property safe for
36:31
Speaker 3: not just the people who live there, but for their
36:34
Speaker 3: visitors as well. And so she brought a lawsuit against
36:38
Speaker 3: Epstein and Wexner, and regrettably what happened was, of course
36:45
Speaker 3: the New York Post, Alan Dershowitz and everybody else came
36:51
Speaker 3: out called her a tranny, made fun of her, you know,
36:56
Speaker 3: said that she was trying to extort money, the same
36:59
Speaker 3: thing they tried to pull when this surfaced with the
37:05
Speaker 3: young girls from Palm Beach. Let's say, and that's just
37:08
Speaker 3: one place. This is a much broader network, and hopefully
37:12
Speaker 3: I'll have time to get into that. And so she
37:17
Speaker 3: was so horrified that her picture was on the front
37:22
Speaker 3: page of these newspapers that they had gone through her
37:27
Speaker 3: at that time. It was MySpace account like they did
37:30
Speaker 3: later with the Epstein victims. And then of course the
37:35
Speaker 3: attorney did the same thing with her as was done
37:39
Speaker 3: to one of the victims. Here. He began to take
37:44
Speaker 3: advantage of her and have sexual relationship with her. So
37:48
Speaker 3: at some point this was just dropped. However, it wasn't
37:54
Speaker 3: dropped as far as Epstein and Wexner were concerned, because
37:59
Speaker 3: there's always retaliation. They never stopped coming for you. So
38:05
Speaker 3: what happened to her is that she was arrested or allegedly,
38:15
Speaker 3: I say allegedly because I do not believe this, that
38:20
Speaker 3: she did this for having shoplifted one thousand dollars worth
38:25
Speaker 3: of merchandise. Now, the reason one thousand dollars was problematic
38:29
Speaker 3: for me when I read the leak, and what I'm
38:31
Speaker 3: sharing with you is legal documents, not just what's you
38:35
Speaker 3: know in the media. Clearly, because this is not in
38:38
Speaker 3: the media. I share legal documents. And one thousand dollars
38:45
Speaker 3: at the time that she was arrested was the amount
38:49
Speaker 3: of money that was considered a felony. The difference between
38:53
Speaker 3: a felony and a nonfelony. So with a felony, if
38:59
Speaker 3: you steal a thing thousand dollars or more, you go
39:02
Speaker 3: to jail. If it's nine hundred and ninety nine dollars
39:06
Speaker 3: worth of whatever, there's another way to handle it in
39:09
Speaker 3: the court system in New York. However, she was she
39:14
Speaker 3: was arrested while in a Victoria's Secret store. Well, who
39:21
Speaker 3: owns Victoria's Secret Leslie Wexer, And this happened after Leslie Wexer,
39:28
Speaker 3: with his pearl clutching, said that he had stopped communicating
39:33
Speaker 3: with Epstein. It happened after So how is it that
39:38
Speaker 3: she gets set to jail after being in a Weer store?
39:43
Speaker 3: They never for they have a long memory. They will
39:47
Speaker 3: harass you until you die. I know from experience because
39:52
Speaker 3: just recently, Alan Dershowitz was discovered to have created a
39:58
Speaker 3: certain fake accounts on Twitter and written articles about me
40:05
Speaker 3: to try to discredit me. I know he did the
40:08
Speaker 3: same with Virginia, and I think Sonia covered that. So
40:12
Speaker 3: I'm not going to go over that again because you
40:16
Speaker 3: all heard what Sonia said about Alan Derschwitz. Now he
40:19
Speaker 3: has just been told yesterday, Friday, the twelfth of June,
40:25
Speaker 3: that he's going to have to testify. Now I have
40:28
Speaker 3: a problem with this because they everyone who has testified.
40:34
Speaker 3: Leslie Wetsner has testified, Two of Epstein's female co conspirators
40:40
Speaker 3: have testified. So many people have testified, but they perjured
40:46
Speaker 3: themselves and nothing seems to have any teeth. They're not
40:51
Speaker 3: being held responsible for their perjury. They contradict themselves even
40:57
Speaker 3: in their own answers. The whole thing I feel is
41:02
Speaker 3: as it's a huge gas lighting on the American public,
41:11
Speaker 3: on the British public, on the world at large, because
41:14
Speaker 3: there isn't any one, I think, on the planet who
41:16
Speaker 3: is not covering this. I have people following me from Africa,
41:20
Speaker 3: from every country on the planet. I have followers, and
41:23
Speaker 3: so everyone has to be following this. If when I
41:26
Speaker 3: look at the maps how my different platforms and see
41:30
Speaker 3: who's following me, everything lights up. So this is a
41:34
Speaker 3: worldwide story. However, what's happening in Congress? And now they're
41:41
Speaker 3: going to interview him, I believe the first week of July,
41:45
Speaker 3: right after the fourth of July weekend? Well, what does
41:51
Speaker 3: Alan Dershowitz do? He lies? He lies? I mean the
41:57
Speaker 3: one thing I remember my abuser telling me, because he
42:01
Speaker 3: too was surrounded by attorneys, and he would think every
42:05
Speaker 3: now and then that he would say something that was funny. Well,
42:08
Speaker 3: I never thought anything he said, but it was funny.
42:10
Speaker 3: But I do have a very good memory, and I
42:12
Speaker 3: wrote everything down, just like Virginia did. And he would
42:16
Speaker 3: say to me, oh, well, you know, and this is
42:18
Speaker 3: an old joke everybody he's probably heard this before. Well
42:23
Speaker 3: do you know how to tell when an attorney is lying?
42:27
Speaker 3: He began one day and then he answered it and
42:30
Speaker 3: he says, when their lips are moving. Well, that is
42:33
Speaker 3: so true about all of these attorneys, and very true
42:38
Speaker 3: about Alan Dershowitz. Now, a very interesting thing that I
42:42
Speaker 3: discovered about Alan Dershowitz, well a lot, But I don't
42:45
Speaker 3: want to make this about Alan Dershowitz, but one of
42:48
Speaker 3: his sons, who passed away I believe late last year,
42:56
Speaker 3: was in a produced a film on Satanism. So if
43:05
Speaker 3: we're going to talk about Satanism, these men in addition
43:13
Speaker 3: to another one of Epstein's attorneys, I'm trying to remember
43:17
Speaker 3: his name, but the Devil's Advocate with the starring Al
43:24
Speaker 3: Pacino and Keanu Reeves. That's also about a pedophile, a
43:32
Speaker 3: teacher pedophile of using a twelve year old girl who
43:35
Speaker 3: gets off because of the devil. Well, all of these
43:39
Speaker 3: demonic themed, devil themed films have one of these men
43:46
Speaker 3: as there. If it's not the advisor, it's the you
43:53
Speaker 3: co something or other, right, But I mean, it just
43:58
Speaker 3: boggles the mind so that in reality it's like they
44:02
Speaker 3: give you the information it's in film, but they're behind it.
44:06
Speaker 3: So I think that probably answers, Yeah, is there some
44:11
Speaker 3: satanic thing connected to this? Well, if Alan Dershowitz's son,
44:17
Speaker 3: one of the films that he's known for is about Satanism,
44:23
Speaker 3: and another one of Epstein's attorneys, I'm trying to remember
44:26
Speaker 3: his name, but you can look up The Devil's Advocate
44:31
Speaker 3: and I'm sure it'll tell you the list.
44:34
Speaker 4: Sorry, Kirby. Sorry, as fascinating. As much as I love
44:40
Speaker 4: deep dives, I'm just cautious of the time here. So
44:43
Speaker 4: we're just at half past and so I'd like to
44:47
Speaker 4: keep about thirty minutes for questions from both in the
44:50
Speaker 4: room and online, if that's okay. So if you have
44:52
Speaker 4: any final thoughts, it'd be great if you could wrap
44:54
Speaker 4: it up and then we'll turn it back over into
44:56
Speaker 4: the room in.
44:57
Speaker 3: Edinburgh, if that's all right. No, I think that's fine.
45:00
Speaker 3: I just think that I already have final thoughts. Other
45:04
Speaker 3: than we have to remember that there were twelve year
45:08
Speaker 3: old girls that people seem to forget about because the
45:13
Speaker 3: narrative seems to have turned to people of age. I
45:18
Speaker 3: think that when you are coerced and manipulated, even if
45:22
Speaker 3: you are of age, that you're still doing something that
45:26
Speaker 3: you don't want to do. And you know there is
45:32
Speaker 3: at least Virginia did see and know about the twelve
45:37
Speaker 3: year old triplets that John lu Brunelle gifted to him
45:40
Speaker 3: for his birthday. So it's important to know that they
45:43
Speaker 3: were very young girls whose lives were destroyed, and I
45:48
Speaker 3: just am happy to have been able to expand this
45:52
Speaker 3: beyond Epstein and I'm happy to take whatever questions the
45:55
Speaker 3: audience may have.
46:01
Speaker 4: Thanks so much, it's fascinating information. I want to say
46:05
Speaker 4: good information, but that's not exactly accurate, So I'll pass
46:11
Speaker 4: over to the room at Edinburgh. I've got some questions
46:13
Speaker 4: waiting online. But what do we have back up there
46:17
Speaker 4: in the granary?
46:20
Speaker 3: I just wondered.
46:21
Speaker 7: Obviously a lot of people think that Gleive Maxwell was
46:24
Speaker 7: Epstein's girlfriend as such, but I see that it's Karina Shuliat.
46:30
Speaker 7: I'm sorry if I'm saying this are being wrong, And
46:32
Speaker 7: it's actually been given all his property, all his finance,
46:37
Speaker 7: and I just wondered if that's been hidden as basically
46:40
Speaker 7: she's taking over. Is anybody watching his ex partner to
46:45
Speaker 7: see what she's up to these days? What's happening with
46:47
Speaker 7: the properties and the moneies that she was left over
46:50
Speaker 7: from the Epstein estate? Because I just think that this
46:52
Speaker 7: female is probably doing exactly the same but under a different.
46:56
Speaker 5: Guys, good questions, are we excellent question?
47:01
Speaker 3: Perina Huliappe has been photographed with Megan Markle on a
47:08
Speaker 3: yacht She moved around with Megan Margle. There's a conflicting
47:15
Speaker 3: information as to if she has received money that Epstein
47:21
Speaker 3: left her. I know I read many email exchanges between
47:26
Speaker 3: the two where she really believed she was his girlfriend
47:30
Speaker 3: in the traditional way that you or I would have
47:32
Speaker 3: a partner. But he kept telling her in these emails,
47:38
Speaker 3: you have to stop doing this, you have you know
47:40
Speaker 3: so that yeah, that was his last girlfriend. But Virginia
47:44
Speaker 3: made it very clear that Glenn Maxwell was never his girlfriend,
47:49
Speaker 3: that they had more of a brother and sister relationship,
47:53
Speaker 3: and that it was really just a pretend for the
47:56
Speaker 3: parents to feel that Epstein was married, because that was
48:00
Speaker 3: the line they used, that they were a married couple,
48:03
Speaker 3: when that was not the truth.
48:06
Speaker 1: Hello, Kirby, I've been really enjoying listening and learning from
48:10
Speaker 1: me the last couple of years. I always wondered if
48:13
Speaker 1: you'd ever heard of May Brussel, b R U S
48:17
Speaker 1: S E L L.
48:19
Speaker 3: Yes, I have, Bob why.
48:22
Speaker 1: Jezus very Good was a good friend of mine. We
48:25
Speaker 1: are organizer forty cabinets of research or family and credible documents,
48:30
Speaker 1: incredible archive, and I'm involved in help fund that the
48:36
Speaker 1: other person. I lived in New York for many years.
48:39
Speaker 1: So I always wandered in your earliest years of research.
48:43
Speaker 1: Did you come across the Lynn Laruche organization. Did you
48:47
Speaker 1: read his newspaper.
48:49
Speaker 3: I've read it sporadically here and there because it mentions
48:52
Speaker 3: my abuser and other people in viscabal.
48:55
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, So I wondered how far back you went
48:59
Speaker 1: in New York in your history, because I think your
49:02
Speaker 1: years of abuse are like eighty five to ninety three.
49:06
Speaker 7: Well, right, eighty yeah, that's about right.
49:11
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, And so you were you were so involved
49:15
Speaker 1: with the relationship that you were twenty research and anything.
49:18
Speaker 1: But when did you start I mean you disappear in
49:22
Speaker 1: ninety three. I understand maybe you went to LA or someplace.
49:25
Speaker 1: When did you start doing study of May Brussel or
49:28
Speaker 1: l Rouge or anybody else that you maybe JFK information?
49:32
Speaker 3: How I frankly do not rely on anybody else's research
49:39
Speaker 3: because I feel that it would be it would blind
49:45
Speaker 3: me to my own ability to put this piece of
49:48
Speaker 3: puzzle together based on information I heard in the past.
49:53
Speaker 3: So May Brussels, I understand, all of her information is
49:58
Speaker 3: in the archive thing and you can listen to it
50:02
Speaker 3: for hours on end. And and some people have been
50:05
Speaker 3: very kind to say, oh, you remind me of made russels,
50:08
Speaker 3: And I think that's the highest compliment there is on
50:11
Speaker 3: the planet. But I really don't rely on either of
50:15
Speaker 3: those two sources. I sometimes will snip out something that
50:19
Speaker 3: comes up if I'm looking for something specifically that has
50:23
Speaker 3: to do with my abuser's family, and it might be
50:26
Speaker 3: in an La rouge thing, but it's not like I
50:29
Speaker 3: read his hole or depended on that. But I may
50:33
Speaker 3: cut it out and put it on X because people
50:37
Speaker 3: don't seem to know the connections to let's say, Bernie
50:44
Speaker 3: Cornfeld or Robert Vesco or the International Overseas Services iOS,
50:50
Speaker 3: and to Hugh Hefner and to the extended and you know,
50:55
Speaker 3: and I've written about twenty four books on this extended network.
51:00
Speaker 1: Yes, so I read your first autobiography and that ends
51:05
Speaker 1: in ninety three or so in your second book, which
51:09
Speaker 1: is coming out soon, right, Cinderella hopefully?
51:13
Speaker 3: Yes?
51:14
Speaker 1: Yes, Does that begin like in ninety five ninety eight
51:20
Speaker 1: when you start doing whatever research your experience forces you
51:24
Speaker 1: to look into.
51:26
Speaker 8: No, it'll it begins literally when I was able to
51:30
Speaker 8: get away from Ira Rickless in ninety three because his
51:34
Speaker 8: father immediately hired one of these attorneys like the kind
51:38
Speaker 8: that we have seen surrounding the Epstein case, who basically
51:43
Speaker 8: became embedded to the side of my leg until.
51:46
Speaker 3: He died not too long ago. And so it begins
51:50
Speaker 3: with him and how he tried to infiltrate my life
51:54
Speaker 3: and the harassment that I have experienced from then on
51:57
Speaker 3: and my struggle. But it's not going to include my
52:03
Speaker 3: Epstein time.
52:06
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, thank you very much. I'll look forward
52:09
Speaker 1: to the second book.
52:11
Speaker 3: Thank you, Bob.
52:12
Speaker 5: Bob is a well blued up fan. Well done, Bob,
52:15
Speaker 5: go you.
52:16
Speaker 1: Thank you. Sonya. Yeah, I started my research in the
52:22
Speaker 1: early eighties with May Brussels Sherman Scorn a little ronch
52:26
Speaker 1: everybody that's now forty five years ago.
52:30
Speaker 5: You can tell, you can tell. There was just one
52:34
Speaker 5: thing that I just did want to add actually that
52:36
Speaker 5: Kirby had triggered me when she was talking, was and
52:39
Speaker 5: it's to do with the whole idea of kind of
52:41
Speaker 5: blackmail and how it extends. And I just wanted actually
52:44
Speaker 5: to sort of run this past Kirby and see what
52:47
Speaker 5: she thought about that, if I may quickly, Diane, and
52:49
Speaker 5: it was to do with Bill Gates. This week, and
52:52
Speaker 5: you know the testifying of Bill Gates where he admitted
52:55
Speaker 5: that he said that Epstein was blackmailing him because he
52:59
Speaker 5: was going to to tell Bill Gates' wife he was
53:02
Speaker 5: having these multiple affairs. And I thought that was an
53:04
Speaker 5: interesting made public What did you make of that, Kirby?
53:09
Speaker 3: What do I make of all of their testimonies? Right?
53:13
Speaker 5: But is there a purpose for it? I mean the
53:16
Speaker 5: fact that they let that come out, so that immediately
53:19
Speaker 5: made people go okay, So we're absolutely confirmed about the blackmail. Now,
53:23
Speaker 5: did you feel that that was managed?
53:27
Speaker 3: I think there's so. Bill Gates's father, Bill Gates Senior,
53:35
Speaker 3: was the co counsel of Black Cube, which is the
53:41
Speaker 3: Israeli staffed, former Israeli massade staffed surveillance operation that David
53:54
Speaker 3: Boyce hired on behalf of Harvey Weinstein to infiltrate and
54:00
Speaker 3: islands Rose McGowan and Ronan Pharaoh. And so Bill Gates
54:06
Speaker 3: Senior was Black Hubes co counsul. The other co council
54:14
Speaker 3: is a man by the name of Michael Drury And
54:17
Speaker 3: I will be happy to spell that for you, Diaz
54:20
Speaker 3: and David are you are y? And who is he
54:24
Speaker 3: connected to? But the British Intelligence services, so that with
54:29
Speaker 3: a Gates and I you know, we would need another
54:32
Speaker 3: ten ten hours for me to get into Gates. He's
54:36
Speaker 3: a multi generational asset.
54:41
Speaker 5: Thank you. I appreciate that response. Thank you.
54:45
Speaker 2: Okay, well I'll chip in with a question, Kirby. We
54:50
Speaker 2: hear a lot about Epstein Island, and you know, the
54:54
Speaker 2: political compromise is only part of it. But there was
54:57
Speaker 2: other properties all over the world, and the people that
55:01
Speaker 2: he was provading blackmail and allowed him to get access
55:05
Speaker 2: into things that genetic cloning and artificial intelligence. He seems
55:09
Speaker 2: to have been everywhere. Could you explain a little bit
55:12
Speaker 2: more about he has other properties, what was going on
55:16
Speaker 2: there and be the how did he manage to seem
55:20
Speaker 2: to be the root of all these technologies and so forth.
55:25
Speaker 3: He had properties in Paris, in a very posh area
55:30
Speaker 3: of Paris, and in fact, a lot of spies have
55:33
Speaker 3: lived on Avenue Folk and Paris. Again, this information you
55:39
Speaker 3: can find on your own. He had not an expensive
55:46
Speaker 3: home in Palm Beach, about six minute drive away from
55:50
Speaker 3: mar A Lago, where Donald Trump has had what was
55:55
Speaker 3: originally the Merriweather Post home. But the house that he
56:01
Speaker 3: had has been raised a lot of places that are
56:05
Speaker 3: connected to Epstein are being raised, which is interesting because
56:10
Speaker 3: it makes at least me think, if I may just
56:13
Speaker 3: take a side step, that there's something buried underneath these homes.
56:17
Speaker 3: So they need that these houses to be gone. So
56:19
Speaker 3: the Palm Beach House was modest, but it's a very
56:23
Speaker 3: expensive neighborhood. It was one of his first purchases with
56:26
Speaker 3: the help of Leslie Wexner. Then, of course he had
56:29
Speaker 3: the townhouses. Then he had another property on sixty sixth
56:32
Speaker 3: Street where a hoot Barrock would stay and which was
56:36
Speaker 3: given over to his brother Mark to handle. He had
56:39
Speaker 3: a property clearly in New Mexico, but people are unaware
56:43
Speaker 3: that he also used Los Angeles, California, where he would
56:50
Speaker 3: maybe rent to go stay at any hotel he wanted,
56:54
Speaker 3: and where one of the victims I forget right now
56:59
Speaker 3: her name. She was lured to meet him at a
57:02
Speaker 3: hotel in Los Angeles, where he then promised her he
57:07
Speaker 3: could get her into Victoria's secret and when he began
57:11
Speaker 3: to attack her and she went to the police immediately.
57:14
Speaker 3: And also he has uh he's known to have used Colorado,
57:26
Speaker 3: and in that Colorado proceeded the time that he is
57:31
Speaker 3: known in the media for having had a power of
57:34
Speaker 3: attorney as well, not just for Leslie Wexner, but for
57:40
Speaker 3: Johnson and Johnson heiress. So there are many properties and
57:44
Speaker 3: the abuse happened in all of these properties. Also, the
57:49
Speaker 3: victims were sent to properties, being on an airplane, commercial flight,
57:56
Speaker 3: or taken by car or sent And that is how
58:00
Speaker 3: Virginia was initially sent to meet Eva and Glenn Dubin.
58:06
Speaker 3: She was sent to the residents at where they had.
58:13
Speaker 3: It's a residence hotel situation in Florida, so she was
58:17
Speaker 3: sent there, and she was sent to other places. Other
58:21
Speaker 3: women were sent to other places. It wasn't just it
58:26
Speaker 3: happened on the island, which is what I do notice
58:29
Speaker 3: mainstream focuses on. There were abuse happened in the cars.
58:35
Speaker 3: It happened everywhere.
58:36
Speaker 1: I want to congratulate Kirby on her gerald Ford books.
58:41
Speaker 1: That's the biggest surprise of anything. I don't think any
58:44
Speaker 1: researchers in any field found what Kirby found about his family.
58:49
Speaker 1: Would you agree, Kurby?
58:52
Speaker 3: I agree. It's my favorite so far, and you're about
58:55
Speaker 3: to make me cry because I might have to change
58:58
Speaker 3: the title. People don't seem to understdam the severity and
59:01
Speaker 3: the scope of my gerald Ford two volume series. It's
59:04
Speaker 3: my favorite so far. I can keep writing about that
59:08
Speaker 3: forever because yeah, and I don't want you to please sport,
59:12
Speaker 3: don't spoil it for anyone, but it ties everything in
59:17
Speaker 3: and then we can just take it back in time.
59:20
Speaker 3: But the gerald Ford is my absolute I want to
59:25
Speaker 3: cry right now. Thank you.
59:28
Speaker 1: That's a great discovery. Congratulations, thank you.
59:34
Speaker 9: Okay, go on here, yes, well, thank you very much
59:40
Speaker 9: for the enlighting presentation.
59:45
Speaker 3: For both of you. Sonya and I'm kiddy.
59:49
Speaker 1: So I have a.
59:50
Speaker 3: Question on.
59:54
Speaker 9: The what sources do you recommend for doing or you
1:00:02
Speaker 9: quite insist a lot on the importance of getting into
1:00:07
Speaker 9: research and to look on on on that that, But
1:00:11
Speaker 9: in addition to your own books, where do you you
1:00:16
Speaker 9: would recommend to look at to not ended up reproducing
1:00:21
Speaker 9: things like Pixa Gate or or those false flags. But
1:00:27
Speaker 9: I get to find solid information on all these, uh saga,
1:00:33
Speaker 9: Thank you very much.
1:00:36
Speaker 3: I think it's important to turn off the noise. For example,
1:00:41
Speaker 3: I only read mainstream if somebody is going to be
1:00:48
Speaker 3: called to testify to see if any but you know,
1:00:52
Speaker 3: I think that's I think what's helped me. And I
1:00:55
Speaker 3: don't know if anyone else is in a position like me,
1:00:58
Speaker 3: is I have no having spent eight years as somebody's
1:01:02
Speaker 3: sex slave, who would take me to Washington, d C.
1:01:06
Speaker 3: And we'll talk about things openly when I'm in the room,
1:01:10
Speaker 3: and would would take me to other places? And and
1:01:14
Speaker 3: who's best friends, you know, were John Landis, who produced
1:01:18
Speaker 3: Michael Jackson's thriller and another man who used to hire
1:01:25
Speaker 3: that model that Virginia I met on her thirtieth birthday
1:01:31
Speaker 3: in Naomi Campbell, who also models. So for me, it's
1:01:35
Speaker 3: it's I think I have a unique perspective because I
1:01:40
Speaker 3: have that, uh, with with what I have, then I
1:01:43
Speaker 3: can go into the archives for you know, the CIA,
1:01:49
Speaker 3: as I said earlier, or New York Times and read
1:01:53
Speaker 3: it would desert. You know. I don't take everything. I
1:01:58
Speaker 3: take things that I can maybe get from a couple
1:02:01
Speaker 3: of different sources. So but I would recommend definitely old newspapers.
1:02:06
Speaker 3: And now as far as identities and birth records and
1:02:11
Speaker 3: death records, those are altered. It's known, at least among
1:02:16
Speaker 3: the survivor community, that the intelligence apparatus can make somebody
1:02:23
Speaker 3: appear and disappear. And I think that is found in
1:02:28
Speaker 3: my Gerald Ford series, that you know, somebody's name can
1:02:31
Speaker 3: be made to disappear, somebody's ancestors can be made to disappear.
1:02:35
Speaker 3: So that's not always a reliable source. I mean, it's
1:02:38
Speaker 3: taken me many, many years to get to this point,
1:02:41
Speaker 3: so it's not for the faint of heart. But I
1:02:45
Speaker 3: do recommend that people do their own research, so old
1:02:47
Speaker 3: newspaper accounts and then you know, following up. It takes
1:02:52
Speaker 3: a lot of I don't take a day off, let's
1:02:55
Speaker 3: just put it that way, and they haven't since July sixth,
1:02:59
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen.
1:03:01
Speaker 5: It's very precise, well, very precise. I I'll add to that,
1:03:07
Speaker 5: and that is I like to go to the source
1:03:10
Speaker 5: as much as humanly possible, go to court documents, police records.
1:03:15
Speaker 5: What I absolutely avoid talking about the noise are content
1:03:19
Speaker 5: creators who are just interested in sensationalistic bs and there's
1:03:24
Speaker 5: there's plenty out there. You see them on TikTok, you
1:03:28
Speaker 5: see them on YouTube, and they actually they don't care
1:03:30
Speaker 5: about the subject matter, they don't care about the people involved.
1:03:33
Speaker 5: They're looking for the top line of sensationalism. They will
1:03:38
Speaker 5: very quickly remove videos once they're you know, they're busted.
1:03:42
Speaker 5: So I would try and avoid that sort of stuff
1:03:45
Speaker 5: as much as humanly possible. But original documentation, as Kirby said,
1:03:50
Speaker 5: can be altered, and that is part of the problem
1:03:53
Speaker 5: that we're dealing with when we're fact checking. But but
1:03:55
Speaker 5: but yeah, I think court documents, police records, and just
1:03:58
Speaker 5: go to as much as humanly possible to the source.
1:04:01
Speaker 5: That's kind of I think where we're up to, because Kirby,
1:04:05
Speaker 5: would you say that we're almost at a point where
1:04:08
Speaker 5: we've then somebody talked about this earlier, where we've been
1:04:10
Speaker 5: so overwhelmed with information that now we're at the place
1:04:14
Speaker 5: where we need to start to trim it out to
1:04:16
Speaker 5: make sense of the picture that we've been given.
1:04:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly, because there's really nothing all of
1:04:23
Speaker 3: this stuff that's coming from the so called committee. I'm
1:04:27
Speaker 3: not even following it anymore, you know, because it's nothing
1:04:31
Speaker 3: is going to come a bit. I'm not going to
1:04:32
Speaker 3: waste my I read a lot and write a lot,
1:04:36
Speaker 3: you know. I go through all kinds of computers that
1:04:39
Speaker 3: they attack. One computer I go overrun by. For today
1:04:43
Speaker 3: I needed to purchase a new computer. I needed to
1:04:46
Speaker 3: download another Microsoft ware, so I could have. I had
1:04:50
Speaker 3: to jump hurdles because I was being attacked big time
1:04:56
Speaker 3: for a bit, and I knew that I when you
1:04:59
Speaker 3: invite me here, Sonia and you guys here that are
1:05:02
Speaker 3: so lovely, I have to be here. So yeah, I
1:05:05
Speaker 3: did what I had to do. But I don't want
1:05:08
Speaker 3: to waste my time, and I encourage you guys now
1:05:10
Speaker 3: to waste your time really following mainstream. If you want
1:05:14
Speaker 3: the news, look for it yourselves, or follow somebody like
1:05:19
Speaker 3: Sonia or or somebody like me, and not the people
1:05:22
Speaker 3: who just want to clicks and liked and you know, fame.
1:05:28
Speaker 5: See what I really enjoy about you, Kirby, is your
1:05:31
Speaker 5: no nonsense, and that is you have no problem whatsoever
1:05:36
Speaker 5: in calling out anyone who you believe is introducing disinformation
1:05:41
Speaker 5: or anything like that. And I think that, I think
1:05:43
Speaker 5: that you're you're unrelenting on that, and I think that
1:05:47
Speaker 5: that is so important, and you and I come together
1:05:50
Speaker 5: on that because both you and I are absolutely sick
1:05:52
Speaker 5: and tired of just kind of grifty people who are
1:05:55
Speaker 5: only interested in kind of making from it rather than
1:05:58
Speaker 5: actually trying to develop an understanding of the time through
1:06:02
Speaker 5: which we're living. So but you know, you're very feist
1:06:05
Speaker 5: day and I'm so glad that you joined us today. Personally,
1:06:07
Speaker 5: I'm really really glad about that.
1:06:09
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would add to that. I would add
1:06:14
Speaker 1: that to soun you. I don't know what's going on,
1:06:18
Speaker 1: but following Kirby, you know every day whenever you put
1:06:21
Speaker 1: something out and I get her substec this character Sean Atwood.
1:06:28
Speaker 1: Is that something you don't want to talk about yet, Kirby,
1:06:30
Speaker 1: because you did a few interviews with him that you
1:06:33
Speaker 1: seem to be good researcher. But did I get that
1:06:35
Speaker 1: you have dropped him? Did I read that right?
1:06:38
Speaker 3: Yes, I have dropped him.
1:06:40
Speaker 1: One Can you say why what happened? Did he betray
1:06:45
Speaker 1: you in some way?
1:06:47
Speaker 3: He betrayed all of us.
1:06:48
Speaker 1: He didn't just between me.
1:06:50
Speaker 3: Sonya has a better has has firsthand knowledge when he
1:07:00
Speaker 3: was seen to have taken advantage of a vulnerable woman.
1:07:05
Speaker 3: I didn't pay much attention because one of his friends
1:07:08
Speaker 3: is a friend of mine, meaning why am I blanking
1:07:16
Speaker 3: out on his name? He's another very good researcher who
1:07:18
Speaker 3: I still trust. But I spoke to him and I
1:07:23
Speaker 3: didn't look into it, and he said, oh, and I
1:07:26
Speaker 3: didn't think it meant look into it, So I kind
1:07:29
Speaker 3: of I'm trying to read. Why am I blanking out
1:07:32
Speaker 3: on his name? Dawn Ryan Dawson. He and I are
1:07:36
Speaker 3: friends and we communicated a lot, and he is an
1:07:39
Speaker 3: original researcher. And I'll tell you that Whitney Webb has
1:07:42
Speaker 3: stolen a lot of his work in the early days too.
1:07:45
Speaker 3: I don't mind dropping that. So I didn't think to
1:07:49
Speaker 3: look into it at the time that he had taken
1:07:52
Speaker 3: advantage of a vulnerable woman. But then many other things
1:07:59
Speaker 3: fell into play that were like, oh, wait a minute,
1:08:04
Speaker 3: it's my understanding. And you know that he crossed dresses.
1:08:07
Speaker 3: It's my understanding that one of his other co hosts
1:08:12
Speaker 3: that he's now dropped, did something to a fifteen year
1:08:15
Speaker 3: old girl. It's my understanding that another one believes in
1:08:18
Speaker 3: the dark arts. So's it's a bunch of things that
1:08:21
Speaker 3: I don't want any part of that it's too dark
1:08:24
Speaker 3: in the world. And so no, I decided, And what
1:08:30
Speaker 3: I didn't see your colors when Sonia Sonia, I was
1:08:33
Speaker 3: the first one to see him for what he is.
1:08:36
Speaker 3: But and that's actually when Sony and I were like,
1:08:40
Speaker 3: oh wait a minute, you see it. I see it.
1:08:42
Speaker 3: But I gave her credit. Remember when I tweeted, I
1:08:44
Speaker 3: said Sonia was the very first person to see it.
1:08:47
Speaker 3: I did not see it because I'm too engrossed in
1:08:49
Speaker 3: my work. But no, once I and I trust Sonia.
1:08:53
Speaker 3: It's like if she saw it and she walked away
1:08:55
Speaker 3: and she's still paying the price, she still has to
1:08:58
Speaker 3: go to poor well over something. It's Atwood, No, no, no,
1:09:01
Speaker 3: no no. And what did he do? He pulled down.
1:09:05
Speaker 3: I've done about fifteen interviews with him, and I introduced
1:09:09
Speaker 3: him to the Epstein victims, and I brought him the
1:09:11
Speaker 3: Epstein story, and I brought him a lot of other
1:09:15
Speaker 3: people like Kay Bickle, the son of the other Peter Nigard.
1:09:22
Speaker 3: I brought him all of these people. But I realized
1:09:25
Speaker 3: that he gas likes and that he if you turn
1:09:29
Speaker 3: on him, you become a troll. So that was very
1:09:31
Speaker 3: behavior that I looked upon, is, oh, he is nothing
1:09:36
Speaker 3: as he pretends to be. He's not in this to
1:09:38
Speaker 3: do what Sonya is doing, what you guys are doing
1:09:42
Speaker 3: here on this platform. And yes, if I lost all
1:09:46
Speaker 3: that work, fine, I lost it. But I'm not going
1:09:49
Speaker 3: to lose my dignity by being on a stage. Sean Atwood.
1:09:56
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you.
1:09:59
Speaker 4: This is a question, if you, for both of you,
1:10:00
Speaker 4: but this one actually followed Sonya's talk. But I'm sure
1:10:04
Speaker 4: that this can be answered to both of you, hopefully
1:10:08
Speaker 4: considering you're just talking about sources and credibility, which I
1:10:11
Speaker 4: cannot emphasize enough for myself personally. Can a credible story
1:10:16
Speaker 4: be made for Epstein being still alive? And if so,
1:10:19
Speaker 4: what is the critical point being missed such as missing video,
1:10:23
Speaker 4: body identification, et cetera.
1:10:25
Speaker 5: And that is from Donald Kirby. I'll happily take that first.
1:10:31
Speaker 5: First of all, I think Donald's answered his own question,
1:10:34
Speaker 5: the fact that we were given all this nonsense from
1:10:37
Speaker 5: the Department of Justice with missing minutes. I mean, the
1:10:40
Speaker 5: thing is is that the people now are so much
1:10:42
Speaker 5: more savvy than we were in terms of this stuff
1:10:45
Speaker 5: ten years ago, and so the minute that we realized
1:10:47
Speaker 5: there's a missing minute, at least we know that there's
1:10:49
Speaker 5: a problem. Do I have I seen credible evidence to
1:10:53
Speaker 5: suggest that he's still alive? No, although there was that
1:11:00
Speaker 5: video that appeared recently and the guy looked incredibly like him.
1:11:03
Speaker 5: In fact, there's been two videos that where the guy
1:11:05
Speaker 5: look incredibly like him. But my sense I don't necessarily
1:11:09
Speaker 5: think he is still alive. All I know is he
1:11:11
Speaker 5: definitely didn't kill himself. That's really my position. But I
1:11:14
Speaker 5: am absolutely aware that it's not implausible that he could
1:11:19
Speaker 5: be alive. It's not because removing him from the picture
1:11:23
Speaker 5: immediately protects a multitude of powerful people. Kirby.
1:11:28
Speaker 3: What I tend to do with this question is I
1:11:31
Speaker 3: don't pay attention to it. It's a red hearing. It
1:11:34
Speaker 3: makes us focus on something that's it's neither here nor there.
1:11:37
Speaker 3: He outlived his usefulness to the apparatus then runs on this,
1:11:42
Speaker 3: and therefore our time is spent better at doing other things.
1:11:47
Speaker 3: There's a lot to come through.
1:11:51
Speaker 5: I think that's a really good way you've just put
1:11:52
Speaker 5: it there. He outlived his usefulness, so whether he's alive
1:11:56
Speaker 5: or dead is almost immaterial. The point was that they
1:11:58
Speaker 5: were ready to move on from him, right.
1:12:01
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely so, dead or alive, it doesn't matter to
1:12:05
Speaker 3: me personally, and people come to me and I'm not
1:12:08
Speaker 3: going to waste I have a lot of work to
1:12:12
Speaker 3: have more books through. I have books.
1:12:16
Speaker 5: You need to get to fifty books before you leave
1:12:19
Speaker 5: this more.
1:12:20
Speaker 1: You'll do it.
1:12:21
Speaker 5: You'll do it easily, easily, I've got.
1:12:25
Speaker 3: One more question here.
1:12:26
Speaker 4: I'm afraid this might be a bit rhetorical or theoretical,
1:12:30
Speaker 4: or potentially we can answer it for ourselves. But Charlotte
1:12:34
Speaker 4: asks a very important question. Are there any politicians in
1:12:37
Speaker 4: Britain or the US who can remain outside or be
1:12:40
Speaker 4: untouched by any of this film?
1:12:46
Speaker 1: Now?
1:12:46
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you why. A survivor from the Franklin scandal,
1:12:52
Speaker 3: which is a scandal that reared to ted in nineteen
1:12:55
Speaker 3: eighty nine during the Ronald Reagan and George hw administration,
1:13:02
Speaker 3: he said something that was quite interesting. And by the way,
1:13:05
Speaker 3: the two books written on the Franklin scandal, I don't
1:13:08
Speaker 3: I think those are doorstoppers, anything, that they're gatekeeping books,
1:13:14
Speaker 3: anything that emphasizes a begin date and an end date
1:13:18
Speaker 3: for one of these trafficking rings. I don't buy into
1:13:22
Speaker 3: having been trafficked myself and involved with a higher up.
1:13:26
Speaker 3: So that what I recall him saying is that when
1:13:38
Speaker 3: something needs to be pushed through the Congress or whatever,
1:13:43
Speaker 3: that they will make sure to have a child be
1:13:49
Speaker 3: with that person one way or another, or they will
1:13:51
Speaker 3: remove the person. So I don't believe that there is
1:13:55
Speaker 3: anybody who can actually get far in the system unless
1:14:01
Speaker 3: year a compromise.
1:14:04
Speaker 5: And I have to agree, actually, Charlah, I think whether
1:14:07
Speaker 5: anybody any of these politicians are directly associated with that
1:14:12
Speaker 5: cabal is almost irrelevant because all you have to look
1:14:15
Speaker 5: at is the vetting that took place to do with
1:14:17
Speaker 5: Peter Mandelsson and how it involved a number of labor MPs,
1:14:21
Speaker 5: some of which have now resigned one to step aside
1:14:23
Speaker 5: so that Andy Burnham can take his shot at hopefully
1:14:26
Speaker 5: becoming the Prime minister. So even if these politicians are
1:14:29
Speaker 5: not directly connected, they are still caught up in it
1:14:33
Speaker 5: because it's a situation where they're already compromised. There were
1:14:37
Speaker 5: a number of people who knew that Peter Manderson didn't
1:14:40
Speaker 5: pass the vetting, and yet still somehow he had to
1:14:44
Speaker 5: be the ambassador. So it's almost immaterial really that he
1:14:48
Speaker 5: was vetted in the first place, because they were going
1:14:50
Speaker 5: to make him ambassador no matter what, and it was
1:14:53
Speaker 5: only a sort of consequence of the information coming out
1:14:56
Speaker 5: that finally toppled it. So no, generally, don't trust any
1:15:00
Speaker 5: politicians because one or another they are complicit. But I
1:15:03
Speaker 5: have to say, just to add to this, Kirby, and
1:15:06
Speaker 5: that is I do have time for Thomas Massey and
1:15:08
Speaker 5: I because I think that he's been prepared to put
1:15:11
Speaker 5: his head above the parapet. Would you not see him
1:15:14
Speaker 5: as a legitimate person?
1:15:22
Speaker 3: No, I will not elaborate on that.
1:15:26
Speaker 5: Interesting, Well, I know I'm going to I'll look more
1:15:29
Speaker 5: into that. But that's interesting because he was Him and
1:15:32
Speaker 5: Marjorie Taylor Green were like almost the sole politicians who
1:15:35
Speaker 5: were standing beside the survivors. And some of those survivors
1:15:40
Speaker 5: are very questionable obviously, as you know as well as
1:15:42
Speaker 5: I do. But yeah, I thought he was one of
1:15:44
Speaker 5: the good ones.
1:15:45
Speaker 3: Actually, I think what we can thank him for is
1:15:52
Speaker 3: making a little noise so that the public at large
1:15:56
Speaker 3: has become more aware that everyone has to your motive,
1:16:00
Speaker 3: and I believe he does this.
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Speaker 2: Interesting.
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Speaker 5: Okay, noted, we have reached three o'clock.
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Speaker 4: Unbelievably, this has gone so quickly for me, it's been fascinating.
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Speaker 4: Guess I'll just pass it back to Matthew for any
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Speaker 4: final questions and for Matthew to close the session. Again. Matthew,
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Speaker 4: thank you so much for arranging all this today. It's
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Speaker 4: been incredible.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Danne. I think that's also just want to thank Sonya.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Kirby. I'm great to find out more about your work.
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Speaker 2: It was really fascinating and I'm sure many of us
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Speaker 2: will be looking to follow up and find out about
1:16:40
Speaker 2: Gerald Ford and some of your experiences. Gerald Thorde, I
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Speaker 2: thought it was just kind of low level dodgy, but
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Speaker 2: it seems like it may be much worse. And then,
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Speaker 2: thanks very much for moderating everything so smoothly.
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Speaker 5: Thank you everybody, have a fantastic weekend. Take care of yourself.
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Speaker 1: Hi.
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Speaker 3: Everyone, thank you for having me by mid today. Bye bye,
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Speaker 3: take care bye.
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Speaker 6: Bye bye bye bye everybody.
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Speaker 8: Hm