Latest / Thirsty For More - Movie Review / EP157 - Die Hard With A Vengence
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- 0:09I mean the Gold, I mean the Gold Julium. Here first Schwartzy t
- 0:33Rex, then motorcycle Schwartzy. Hello everybody, and welcome to Thirsty for More,
- 0:42Planet Bruce, of course, Planet Bruce. I'm Alex and I'm Malenko.
- 0:50Nice to meet you. And today we've got nineteen ninety five die Hard
- 0:56with a Revenge. Dude, we've been talking about doing die Hard with John
- 1:00mctiernan's die Hard with the Revenge. Yeah, the best one, the best
- 1:07one, I would say. Samuel Ell like, it's it's the kind of
- 1:11two hour and ten minute movie that you're like, it's a little log,
- 1:15but it feels like it deserves two hours ten minutes. It burns two hours
- 1:19and ten minutes. And one of the things I was really upset about when
- 1:23we talked about pulp Fiction a couple episodes ago was that we didn't rate that
- 1:27that movie out of Samuel El's. And I think that's because, like it's
- 1:30almost like pulp fiction. A movie like pulp fiction is a movie that's like
- 1:34almost greater than the sum of its parts. It's hard to like break down
- 1:40in elements like that. Like, of course you can look at the individual
- 1:42performances and that's what makes it great. But it's almost like, you know,
- 1:46it's not about them, it's about pulp fiction. It's about yeah,
- 1:49and it's about not just directing, but like his voice and vision. Everybody
- 1:55else speaking of Samuel L. Jackson speaking about race in this movie super interesting,
- 2:00and we'll get to that, but I want to just say, well,
- 2:01if you got it on tape, Samuel L. Jackson is so good
- 2:07and he was so he was so good in pulp fiction. Dude, Yeah,
- 2:10he's better in this than he has an involve fiction. I mean,
- 2:14I agree, I agree. Just having somebody be just a whole person that's
- 2:23not hyper stylized. He's just he totally sells being a regular dude in the
- 2:29same exact way that Bruce Willis does. I really that's something I really appreciate
- 2:34it. Like the every madness of Samuel el in this of both of them,
- 2:38that's what they're connecting on, right, because like this, Okay,
- 2:42this movie can on one hand be taken as total coppaganda of like you know,
- 2:46like both sides coming together sort of thing, but I weirdly think it
- 2:52really works kind of well in this movie. It makes it magical almost because
- 2:57like there's a kind of like Bruce's Friends with Black People idealism of the first
- 3:01two movies, I would say, And then they mentioned Rodney King in this
- 3:06one. Yeah, and like this movie has connections to La. You know,
- 3:09it's got la Lord. Do I know you dude from that Nakatomy thing?
- 3:13Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. I mean, don't I
- 3:15know you from that Nakatomy thing? Yeah, that's how we know each other.
- 3:19Yeah. But but like in this movie, you know, there's a
- 3:23kind of commentary on that, and I think that was like a really interesting
- 3:25and smart move, like to make cops not perfect and not the good guy,
- 3:32but also while maintaining that they're the good guy in a way. You
- 3:36know, yeah, absolutely, like maintaining the illusion of like movie cops,
- 3:40you know what I mean from Yeah, I mean, like the thing is
- 3:46the good thing about this one is the sort of mention of the first nine
- 3:53to eleven at the what's it called the first Harris attack at the World Trade
- 3:58Center. Yeah. The interesting thing about cops and anytime post nine eleven and
- 4:05pre nine eleven is that like a major event will bring all people together,
- 4:11right, and like that's kind of what I picture mostly this as rather than
- 4:16like, oh, cops are just good right, because they're not really right.
- 4:21It takes it takes what's like terrorist level events for these people to become
- 4:27heroes. No, no, no, well yeah, because it's very bad.
- 4:30Yeah, it is very big. Yeah, but but but what I'm
- 4:32saying, when Ready was there, it was never never. But but it
- 4:40still takes John McLane to figure it out. Right, It's still the lone
- 4:47person, which is hilarious because of the two of them together, they use
- 4:50their skills, magical skills together though like they're kind of like stupidly, like
- 4:58like when when one of that doesn't know a thing at the other, it
- 5:02was so good, it was so well, sorry, sorry, Okay,
- 5:05we'll get We'll get to that. Man. There's also so many Dannymall rooms
- 5:09in this movie. I don't know, Rarely do I ever get excited to
- 5:14do many things in this life, many things on this podcast, And like
- 5:18the thing is, like, rarely do I feel this much of a responsibility
- 5:24towards This is the most pantheon, Bruce. This is the one for us,
- 5:28for us, dude, the most pantheon Bruce, and using us to
- 5:32make that movie, I think so. I think it's a close second to
- 5:38to need to Go, but which we'll get to, dude in the next
- 5:43episode, because we need to go to plant. Bruce. Yeah, of
- 5:46course I think. What's Yeah, Like, it's hard to say because it's
- 5:49like to me, it's like, would it be fifth Element? But it's
- 5:55not like this is Pantheon Bruce, because it's a Bruce Willis movie, and
- 5:59it's because Bruce and and too, he was the same extent Samuel Jackson.
- 6:04It's Pantheon Samuel Jackson. It's to Oh my god, dude, totally because
- 6:10this takes this takes something fun, fun, really fun fun, like a
- 6:15movie like die Hard, and makes it better. Like it's like you want
- 6:20die Hard, but you're getting the kids die Hard. You don't know,
- 6:24dude, this is this. This is a just generally a better movie,
- 6:29I would say, because it has the most payoff of everything because we I
- 6:34want to see I wanted to see because all the stuff you get from Bruce
- 6:39Willis in die Hard one is there. And also it's like there's no other
- 6:44movie too, but he's got he like everything that he that we weren't sure
- 6:47that he was in up up until I wouldn't even say this point, like
- 6:53he's been Bruce for a minute now. But everything that we weren't sure of
- 6:58when we watch the first movie, when we watched the first die Hard,
- 7:00it all pays off completely in this movie because it's like, it's Bruce,
- 7:04this is Bruce becoming, this is Bruce arriving. This is the John McClain
- 7:10that we never really saw mc yeah, we only got hinted at. Yeah,
- 7:17because he's got a bad fucking headache. Yeah he does. And like
- 7:21I said, a lot of Dannie Moore runs. I mean, one of
- 7:25the most amazing Daniel runs is Dean Norris in this movie. Dude, oh
- 7:29man, such an amazing Daniel Rude. And also another Dannie old rood is
- 7:32Gibbons. You can't leave the desk like Gibbons. What's his name? I'm
- 7:38pretty sure there's that guy who's got the mustache. He's like the guy who
- 7:44tells them that's Dean Norris. That's Dean Norris. That's if you look it
- 7:49up, that's Dean Norris. Man, I thought it was I thought it
- 7:54was what's his name? Did you think Dean Norris was in this movie?
- 8:01I thought it was a different guy. This is the guy with the mustache
- 8:07and the kind of curly Yeah. Yeah, because I thought that was what's
- 8:11his name from the wire? No it's not. It's not fucking what's his
- 8:18name? I know who you're talking about, the police chief. Yeah,
- 8:22yeah, the guy that's hinted at as gay, but not what's what's Yeah,
- 8:28that's it. That's crazy, crazy because he looked so familiar. But
- 8:33yeah, the first the start of the movie starts with an explosion. Yeah,
- 8:37normal, normal things going on, normal town New York, New York,
- 8:43which is so cool. And they set up in the same way as
- 8:46in New York and like the fact, like they used like the population density
- 8:50of New York, man, all of the plastic, the liquid plastic of
- 8:56course, the liquids, the nineties may villain, ninety scientists. Man,
- 9:03dude, like too, like this this ship is fucking awesome too, Like
- 9:07the first explosion where it's like, yeah, like nobody can and nobody can
- 9:13film it now anyway because it would just be Toronto, the permits, it
- 9:18would be Toronto and it would look as good. Yeah, man, just
- 9:22like New York. Can you imagine the logistics of fucking filming in New even
- 9:26even then? Like, no, it was never years. He was never
- 9:31one of those Graham Green, dude. I was so excited to see Canadian
- 9:39screen legend Graham Green. Yeah, great, amazing. He's such a Bruce
- 9:43Willis actor. He's such a Bruce Willist actor. And he's so good at
- 9:48this. He's so good at those. And everybody gets a hero moment in
- 9:52this and it's awesome. It is awesome, Like they're they're not people.
- 9:56A lot of the time that they were like working through red tape in hating
- 10:01each other in the previous movies, and this movie they really so together.
- 10:05Yeah, it's so not that it's so not that it's awesome. I like
- 10:09that element me too. And I loved Cobb. I loved Cobb, the
- 10:13chief with the mustache. He was he was so so good his like conviction.
- 10:20YEA. One of the biggest, the biggest acting notes that was always
- 10:24given to police chiefs of the nineties was they had to be super flustered.
- 10:28Yeah, to be like really like, yeah, totally, I don't know
- 10:33what I'm gonna do with this, Yeah totally. But yeah, the explosion
- 10:37happens and then and then bad fucking headaches. Yeah for sure. Cobb gets
- 10:43a phone call from Simon says, oh, man for all. Oh,
- 10:52his name is Jerry Irons, Sexy Jerry Irons, a robot calling in and
- 11:01being like Simon, listen later on, I'm going to play mister Flugauga.
- 11:09God. When he played, mister Flauga laughed, so I was like,
- 11:15I'm so excited, mister Fluga, mister Fluga, mister mister found his newgas
- 11:20here, find his newgass here, find his newgass here. It was literally
- 11:24mister Fluga when I was just like fluga, mom, dude. But but
- 11:31also you know who he reminded? What's his name? So mister Crabtree and
- 11:37and Cob go to pick up Bruce Willis because mister flags like you have to
- 11:45get I am looking for Jo. It's John McClean there, and obviously he's
- 11:52been suspended for some drunken disorderly behavior, some abusive alcoholic husband. But anybuddy
- 11:58that all of these like British guys play, these jerd guys always say I
- 12:01would like to speak to John mcclin. Yeah, John mcclin, it's always
- 12:05so. But what's what's mister mcclin. Don't let her leave, mister mcclin,
- 12:18what's wrong? Don't let her leave had the same kind of balding as
- 12:24other Bruce wigs. Dude Bruce fully showing I don't know if the back is
- 12:30this is wig, this is so wig, this is nineteen ninety five,
- 12:35is already whispy hair. But but what's nice about this wig is that they've
- 12:41they've they've balded him with this wig. Is it a wig, it's a
- 12:46wig. It's a wig. It away, they've balded him, they have,
- 12:50but they've appropriately bulded Jude and also wanted to say, we get this
- 12:52is our first hint of hangdog Bruce face. Oh, yeah, totally,
- 12:58because he's gonna eventually there'll be a lot of hangdog. But I think this
- 13:01is the first time we see hangdogs. And and also the drinking the coffee
- 13:07with the aspirin and he's like, come Mark, Mark, he's just putting
- 13:09the pills in his mirth. Yeah, And it's but also the amazing part
- 13:15of both less so with Graham Green's performance, but but still really hilarious,
- 13:22but with with Arthur Cobb, the quiet disappointment and sadness that he has for
- 13:28John McClain to eaven this moment where he's just he's sad for him, but
- 13:33also disappointed about him, and it reminds me of Troutman, the like oh
- 13:39yes, sad, warm disappointment the Troutman has. Troutman is different though,
- 13:45because he's like, not my boys, just like you've got to do this,
- 13:48John, Yeah, totally, So I'm talking about different trumtmand number one
- 13:54not not the rest of or he's doing. Yeah, I'm using I'm using
- 14:01his fatherly status dramon totally. Man. Mister Crouchy's so good at this movie,
- 14:09dude, and like, so they bring Bruce to Harlem. He's like,
- 14:13so, we gotta take you to Harlem and didn't. No one's saying
- 14:16what he's doing. He's got to get himself. Last time I got this
- 14:18undressed was in front of my wife Holly, and everyone's going like, oh,
- 14:22you fucking loser, Bruce, Bruce. That relationship that's fall apart.
- 14:28The kids, John, they're okay, last they're okay, and it's like,
- 14:33did you talk to Holly? And then then the Crazy Eyes first Stark,
- 14:37No, I didn't speak to Holly. Dude, so mad, But
- 14:41like John McTiernan directed Crazy Eyes, Bruce is amazing. Like Wacky Eyes from
- 14:48John McTiernan new stage of Wacky Eyes. Yeah, there's one point where Bruce
- 14:54he's like looking shoulder, he's got shot or whatever. It's just like fucking
- 15:03dripping blood. Yeah, and hay arms. Yeah, hangy ar so hanging
- 15:09arms. And it was like, oh no, do use it as well.
- 15:13Yeah. I That's what I always thought is there's not enough blooded effort
- 15:18to like work. Maybe it usually does. Maybe it isn't wig. Let
- 15:22me just take a not wig, dude. Maybe the back isn't dude.
- 15:26This brother's Baulding detectives. No, take take the computer me, Like what
- 15:35analyzing the Baulding? No, no, dude, look at it. Look
- 15:37at it. I don't know. I don't know. Look at the front.
- 15:41Whispy, like it is very whispy, but like there's there, but
- 15:45there's like where what get it together? John? What I'm talking about is
- 15:50the slight discoloration between where the normal hair starts and the like little line.
- 15:56There's a line there where I'm like that seems like you're like, get together,
- 16:00John, Together, John, I'm gonna put a racist sign on John.
- 16:04Okay. So yeah, like he goes, he makes he makes Bruce
- 16:10go to the middle of Harlem and wear a sign. But Okay, the
- 16:15thing that ultimately doesn't make sense about this movie is the Simon toying with Bruce.
- 16:19It unfolds in a very John mcteernan way where like, oh, yeah,
- 16:22it seems like it makes sense. It seems like it makes sense.
- 16:26But then when the Predator comes in, you're like, wait, is this
- 16:27the same movie exactly exactly? And you're like, this is a die hard
- 16:30movie. No, I'm okay, no, but you know what I mean,
- 16:33like you no, the poor black woman who sees him just like like
- 16:37like j such a disappointed But also you see Bruce's performance feeling like man like
- 16:47I don't want to do work. He's like I don't want to hurt anybody
- 16:49like this where he's like he's like physically in pain because of it. And
- 16:55Okay, so this is one of the big things that I want to talk
- 16:57to you about this the It's one of the things I remember most from this
- 17:02movie. This movie made me feel like I was watching the real Samuel L.
- 17:07Jackson's views on race relations in America. Yeah, like there was a
- 17:11certain kind of ownership he took of, like the being the mouthpiece for this
- 17:17and there was a kind of like honesty he spoke with about race in America
- 17:21that felt very authentic and felt very like it felt like like it was somebody
- 17:26just like communicating direct thoughts. And I remember, remember I always thought that
- 17:30as a kid. Yeah, and be like, man, Samuel L is
- 17:33an activist, Like this is activism, Like to be impression impressioning a little
- 17:41kid like me and be telling me that message and me being able to see
- 17:45that as a kid. I think that was like really really cool and like
- 17:51a cool element of this movie. Yeah, for sure, and adds so
- 17:55much more to it. Just feels so different than like, let's put let's
- 18:03put you know, what's the dude's name again from the first one? Oh
- 18:10oh fuck yeah, oh man, the guy from Family Matters? Are you
- 18:15talking about the guy from fail? Oh Man? Reginald L. Johnson's like
- 18:23with Reginald VL Johnson. It just like this to go from having a kind
- 18:27of relationship with him to the way they kind of forced him into the sequel
- 18:36and then like that's what's very like disingenuous. This is almost like a like
- 18:40a like a red conning of black people, like like Fruce. Yeah,
- 18:45because like the first the second one has this like stumble and then it goes
- 18:52into this one where where it's like, no, he needs like a partner
- 18:56with him, and let's make it this guy and this is how they meet.
- 19:00It's like such a great way to build a relationship because what it what's
- 19:07funny about it, it's not just black people like Bruce, but white people
- 19:12like Samuel Jackson, because that's very good in this movie. It's like because
- 19:19he comes off he's so aggressive, but he's so instantly likable because you want
- 19:26to aggressive. I do want to use the word aggressive because he is aggressive.
- 19:30There, I have no problem, Like, like I get it there's
- 19:34a racist undertone to that, but like the reality is is that the way
- 19:40they set him up immediately because they get him in and the two kids who
- 19:45come in that we find out that he's their uncle, and he's like,
- 19:48why aren't you at school, like when trying to pawn something that a friend
- 19:53who stole the thing is like pawning or like someone they know from the neighborhood.
- 19:59And he's like, so like this guy's got plausible deniability. Now you
- 20:02guys have to stay in school. So he's kind of like he's trying to
- 20:04be like, it's interesting because he's trying to be a beacon to his kids
- 20:08and have an impact in his world. Right, he can't have an impact
- 20:12on society, but he's going to have impact in his own community exactly.
- 20:17And but but the best part is is that he is aggressive, but he's
- 20:21aggressive in the ways that he's like, I don't think he's aggressive. Can
- 20:23you let me fucking finish? Hold on Jesus? Yeah, Like why what
- 20:30do you want to say? Why? Like, why don't think I'm listening?
- 20:33Well, thank you. He's aggressive in the way that he wants,
- 20:37he wants, he wants things to be done, he needs things to be
- 20:41in a way that like with with his community, it's a balance of he's
- 20:45assertive. I was going to say, yeah, Like, what do you
- 20:48say it's being assertive not a type of aggression. I don't think so.
- 20:53No, No, I don't think so at all. Aggression imply what it
- 20:59implies anger, which he is a lot of the time in the movie.
- 21:02But he never he's never like losing any control and he's never he's always like
- 21:07he okay, fine, Like is it just the aggressive that like you're doing,
- 21:12you're deterring all of like all of the points I'm trying to make are
- 21:17now like I can't think of them now because it's like, oh my god,
- 21:19like you he was the word aggressive for a black guy. Oh no,
- 21:23it's like come on, dude, Okay, I'm listening to your well
- 21:26now I'm like, I have to find my place, Jesus. His nephews
- 21:30are telling him about Tony, who stole the radio and now has plausible deniability,
- 21:37and he asks he asks his nephews where they should be and they say
- 21:42school, and he engages them in a like a dialogue about what he wants
- 21:49them to know with them. He says, for what, why do you
- 21:53have to go to school to get educated? Why so we can get go
- 21:56to college? Why is that important? And then the kid goes aspect and
- 22:03he's like respect, uh, and like he's building a world for them to
- 22:10be engaged in as also what he's doing as a community member. And then
- 22:15he goes he goes to school and he has like a laugh because Tony Tony's
- 22:19gonna come and pick up the radio again. And then the kids see the
- 22:26Bruce willis wearing like yeah, exactly. But what's amazing about this performance too,
- 22:37is that not just you get the impact of like how he wants his
- 22:41community to be. But he sees a group of guys who are definitely not
- 22:45going to take the sign as lightly, like he takes it in such fucking
- 22:52stride with this dude to be like, oh my god, this guy is
- 22:56either like mentally ill or looking to get fuck killed. And Bruce Will is
- 23:00his face when he sees the shame and sadness but the please clap in his
- 23:07face? But what is it? What? What does he say? What
- 23:10does Will say to It's really funny? Good morning, Bruce's good morning.
- 23:18Are you having a nice day, sir? You're feeling all right? I
- 23:22love I love that. It's such a such a great performance, says so
- 23:27much. Yeah, and yeah, he's like he says, dude, when
- 23:33he says it, you're just like and he's like when you're wearing when you're
- 23:37wearing a sign that says and you're just like, oh my god, it's
- 23:41Shaw. It's Shaw. The way the way that this movie just moves from
- 23:47this point, it just like starts and like doesn't stop. And then the
- 23:52guys do notice Bruce's sign, but what But but he has got such a
- 23:56gray line, has either got some guy wearing a sign like that has either
- 24:00got some real personal issues or not. All his dogs are barking. He's
- 24:06like, oh, oh listen, oh cop, Yeah, it's totally listen.
- 24:11This is Cup against the good guys. But I think that was really
- 24:18realistic. I think totally Cop would have been like totally and it's like I
- 24:22don't care, dude. Yeah, and then like one of the guys throws
- 24:30a little like flicky nuts gets stuck in the side, and they all start
- 24:34but he he tries so hard to but like he tries so hard to be
- 24:40like, dude, like come into the shop, like we have to get
- 24:44out of here because not just not just I am gonna be in a lot
- 24:48of shit for even associating with you. But then but he also Bruce Willis
- 24:56does the thing where he's like, listen, something blew up earlier. I'm
- 25:00a cop. I actually need to We're just trying to get him to understand
- 25:03eat very quickly. Totally, it is really brilliant. I thought that was
- 25:07like a cool move that the movie makes, and also that I think Bruce
- 25:12would make, because Bruce is kind of like he's not very smart, but
- 25:18he's kind of like very savvy. You know. Yeah, he's definitely knows
- 25:22he knows what to say, he knows how to be brief, he knows
- 25:25how to talk to people, you know what I mean. Oh, and
- 25:29then and then the guy who's like, he's this is a friend of yours,
- 25:33and he's like, does this look like a friend of mine? And
- 25:37then he's like this dude escaped from the mental institution, and Bruce is pretending
- 25:41that. He's like, oh yeah, and he's like, I got a
- 25:44very bad headache, very bad, very bad. The next movie he's like,
- 25:48nun needs to go. Yeah, and the dude pulls a knife at
- 25:52him, and it's just like it's a pretty intense and scary scene, like
- 25:59like the dude one of the dudes cuts the sign off of him, and
- 26:02then somebody goes for fucking man. Somebody hits uh Samuel l They cuts it,
- 26:08they kill with a knife, and they hit Bruce and the head with
- 26:11a bottle and he falls down and picks up the gun that's taped back up
- 26:17back the fuck up dude, he screaming, dude. Can I also just
- 26:19say, well, also crazy eyes, crazy eyes, Samuel El totally?
- 26:25Can I also just say amazing? Use of handheld in this movie, dude,
- 26:30the handheld such like used to like portray such beautiful like anxiety intensity.
- 26:37It's so good. It was done so well, and it was very jerky.
- 26:41It's so jerky. Yeah, but it was so jerky specifically because I
- 26:45noticed it too, especially like you always sort of notice it. But when
- 26:49you're like really analyzing this movie, it's like, whoa, there's so much
- 26:53good handheld. It's way less like it's I would say it's grittier than the
- 26:57other two. Oh yeah, it's a slickers. Yeah. They're much more
- 27:03action movie of the nineties, whereas this is like hints of what action movies
- 27:08are to become in the two thousands for a long time. But then as
- 27:15Bruce gets flung to the streets, a car I think a cabby almost hits
- 27:18him, and then and then they steal the cabby. Yeah, nobody's trying
- 27:23to rob you, hey SEUs. And then he keeps calling him hey Zeus,
- 27:27which was embarrassing, so crazy. He's like, why do you keep
- 27:32calling me hey SEUs? I'm not hey SEUs. Zeus as in the Forgot
- 27:37of Thunders, Father Apollo mount Olympus, you heard of him? Yeah,
- 27:45I heard of him. Don't fuck me, allow, don't fuck me all
- 27:49shove a lightning bolt up your ass. It's it's interesting. It's interesting because
- 27:53there's already a racial element there where Bruce he's like miss aaking him for being
- 28:00a hayeseus. Yeah, so like right away, like they kind of like
- 28:06Bruce has to earn his respect, right because like he's like this guy,
- 28:11like, you're fucking racist cop, and I just saved your ass, you
- 28:14know what I mean? Yeah, he think he thinks like and also his
- 28:18first introduction to him was him wearing a side that said, hey, hey,
- 28:22can we give to the part where where I come into the all this
- 28:26he they'll both end up at the station getting interrogated about like what's happening?
- 28:32What does he know? And there's a psychologist there. Man, in my
- 28:34estimation, she's real what is it like? He's doing this for this guy?
- 28:40Yeah, this guy wants you to pound you into crumble man. And
- 28:44the nineties simultaneously wanted us to believe that the world is run by like these
- 28:48like experts that know everything, and also that those experts are full of shit
- 28:55totally not just experts full of shit, but they're also like kind of weirdly
- 28:57magical and not to be taking stories always like they're like, oh, he's
- 29:03like I don't know why, but yeah, yeah, even even even Doctor
- 29:10Silverman had like a very magical quality about him. Well, like here,
- 29:12here's the problem that you get into when when like well, when things are
- 29:21are presented in this way and people like don't really have time to go into
- 29:25like looking at different things or with critical thinking and think things like that where
- 29:27it's like you think to yourself, yeah, like there are people who are
- 29:32experts, but then like you see movies and they're like not experts, But
- 29:37then you see other movies where there are experts in a totally outrageous unrealistic way,
- 29:41and people form these like nebulous views of who these kinds like what these
- 29:48kinds of things are, so they automatically either think, oh, yeah,
- 29:51well, let's fall into the the what is it called in politics when like
- 29:55the hyper elite make all the decisions oligarchy, I don't know, oligarchy.
- 30:02No, those people with money make all decisions. People who are like hyper
- 30:06competent to make all the decisions. A meritocracy, not a meritocracy. That's
- 30:10like when people build I don't know. It's it's when like anyway, it
- 30:19doesn't matter, Like it forms a sort of weird, uh like nebulous sloop
- 30:27of differing ideas of what society should look like, and it's like who should
- 30:33run how and whatever? Right, And it sucks because it's like, you
- 30:38know, like how do you talk about government, Like how do you talk
- 30:45about uh government non functioning well without it devolving into like government shouldn't exist,
- 30:52or how do you talk about like institutions and like that. That's what's cool
- 30:57about mc tiernan style of like shooting the kinds of guys who are hypercompetent but
- 31:06still like in an action movie kind of sense. So he brings you into
- 31:08this like like sort of magical world with these like very realistic people in it.
- 31:15Well, that's what the idea of this movie kind of is about.
- 31:19It's like, we're going to blow up this money so that, like he
- 31:23says, our ideology is we're going to blow up this money so that like
- 31:27governments are starting from zero again. And it's like there was this idea of
- 31:33like starting from zero. I think even that's the plot of Escape from La
- 31:36is like, oh, start from zero, presses a button and it brings
- 31:41us back to the Stone Age, and it's like there's a real kind of
- 31:42like anarchistic view to that. There's a real kind of like sort of like
- 31:47conservative view of like we'd get back to what's really true and real if we
- 31:52did something like that. Or I don't know, is there's like a it
- 31:56is an anarchy. I don't know what it is, you know, like
- 32:00technocracy, that's what I meant, right, Yeah, when I built by
- 32:05a lead of technical Yeah, technocracy. But in terms of what you're talking
- 32:09about as like an anarchism, yeah, that can shift into two different parts.
- 32:15That can shift into right wing anarchism or left wing anarchism, but they
- 32:19both end up in a similar spot of like, oh, well, let's
- 32:21build communities that it's like, well, it's interesting. Yeah, And like
- 32:24again, of course, the motivation in this movie is just like he wants
- 32:28to happen. He wants the money. Yeah, which is great, which
- 32:30is great, it runs in the family. It's also like awesome because of
- 32:36the fact that it gives him the opportunity to It gives Bruce will or John
- 32:40McClain the opportunity to like really think about what the motivations are for the the
- 32:46Simon, but at the same time, Simon does kind of do it out
- 32:51of a pettiness. He uses the opportunity, but it is there is like
- 32:55a brotherly love. That's my brother. I want to brother that. It's
- 33:00like this is just the bonus. Yeah, exactly, exactly, but yeah,
- 33:05I feel like that's why it's die Hard with revenge. Dude with a
- 33:08revenge. Yeah, totally totally so uh w how did it go again?
- 33:16I don't know, I forget the serbian title sauce f. I think okay,
- 33:29I think so, I think so okay. Anyway, Sorry, Like
- 33:31I love this scene because it sets up so much nice Danny mal Rooms,
- 33:37specifically the bald glasses bomb expert. Oh dude, that guy was in me
- 33:44and he never graduated from Danny mal roumin status. No, no, it's
- 33:47but he did a really good job, gets his own hero moment, which
- 33:51is really nice. But his set up where they're there, yeah, when
- 33:54when they're and they get this guy who's like the like, oh yeah,
- 34:01the kind of key's got like a smug lawyer face. Yeah, a smug
- 34:06lawyer face guy he gets set up who lets in the villains into the hole
- 34:09to like, oh yeah, he's like stupid. But anyway, so these
- 34:15are like what's nice about these guys is it gets set up right at the
- 34:17beginning of the movie, like fifteen minutes in and he, like the bomb
- 34:22expert puts a little like tab of the like mix of the bomb the plastic
- 34:28or whatever, and he's like, if I hit it, nothing will happen.
- 34:31But if I add this little mix and toss it, and he throws
- 34:35it and it blows up a chair or whatever. He totally tries the tooth
- 34:39with the bomb. Rarely do we get Danny Ruse right the tooth, dude.
- 34:44I mean, it's it's awesome because it gives later on for John McLean
- 34:49later on the idea of how to get Zeus out of the handcuffs. But
- 34:52we'll get to that. Yeah, and it's nice because, uh, you
- 34:58know everybody is. It does feel good when people are like working together and
- 35:02being like, oh, yeah, this is kind of cool. Like I
- 35:06wish the police did treat things like crime like this. Well, I mean
- 35:09like, but in order for that to be the case, they'd have to
- 35:12be like, you know, fucking Batman, bad villain. Yeah, totally
- 35:17exact guys, exact things all the time. Yeah, like because it fundamentally
- 35:23misunderstands what evil is good. There's like good and evil and that's what this
- 35:31that's the reality this movie is functioning with. There's like bad people and we're
- 35:36getting the bad bad guys, bad guys. Yeah, totally. Speaking of
- 35:40bad guys, Zeus gets the title. Uh, first of all, racistly,
- 35:49you got a problem with Ebony. Remember where he calls him the Samaritan.
- 35:53Yeah, oh yeah, I'm the bad guy. Dude, keep calling
- 35:59me the good guy, not a good guy. I'm a bad guy.
- 36:05Yeah. He They incorporate him into the plans. Yeah, like a Simon
- 36:10groupers Like, well, I didn't expect that you would be joining, but
- 36:14since you did, I guess now I'm going to make you part of my
- 36:15plans. Yeah, totally. And so like he kind of keeps coming up
- 36:20with these like the ways. It's like you gotta get to this place,
- 36:23and like he goes, like, what's your name? Boy? It's like
- 36:30and then he goes, he is an assembly. He is assembly malicious of
- 36:34like tall Germans. That's true. Yeah, and he but it was it
- 36:39was interesting because he goes, you're calling me boy, and he's like,
- 36:44I'm sorry that was my poor attempt humor, It's like, oh man,
- 36:47dude, he's like it's weird, like he's being he's being Alexander's cars guard
- 36:53from Succession racist, totally like euro edgy racist, but not really. He's
- 36:59like, but I'm really just joking. Yeah, oh man, it's been
- 37:01thirty years, guys. It's been forty years guys. Yeah, like,
- 37:07uh, I mean, can I understand it? Just over its guys?
- 37:09That was so longer? That was only five years ago. Yeah, totally.
- 37:14Oh man, when he goes when he imitates stutters, but like like
- 37:20Simon Gruber's also pretending to stutters so that he can seem like a certain kind
- 37:23of crazy person for the expert. Yeah, read about the kind of expert
- 37:28that they would have and then tried the tooth with mental any what's this?
- 37:32This is such a man boy movie where it's like for for men and boys
- 37:37and ideas. Adult men were either fighting people, hitting people or calmly talking
- 37:45to each other in rooms and coming up with ideas calmly talking to each other
- 37:52in rooms. And but I love Samuel Jackson being like like this is why
- 38:00people should it's white people problems and I'm not doing this I'm leaving. Yeah,
- 38:05and then Bruce lies to him that there's a bomb in Harlem so that
- 38:10he can get him to help him. Yeah. Yeah, and you know
- 38:14what, trying the tooth with racism, trying the tooth with racism. I
- 38:16believe it. I believe it. And they go to the first phone,
- 38:22and so how do they have to get to the first phone? They have
- 38:24to like drive, No, they just drive to it, and and Bruce
- 38:30Willis first tries to indulge the poor lady and then saying just just goes get
- 38:37off the damn phone. Okay, so why didn't you just say that was
- 38:42a fat woman? Whatever? Every like, And there's also like she's about
- 38:46three D there's like literally like a DRD lines focusing on how fat this woman
- 38:53is. Yeah, absolutely, which she's not that fat. I was like
- 38:57not just totally normal, and like, why didn't you just say that was
- 39:00a fat woman? She's like she's she's I don't know, she's she looks
- 39:06she's shot in a very it doesn't in offensive way. It doesn't matter,
- 39:10it doesn't matter. It's just like it's so weird how we've had several movies
- 39:15of Bruce and like that. It's mentioned so much in Bruce movies. Yeah,
- 39:19totally, I'm sure you can find a different phone across the street,
- 39:22man, let's get the stream like that she doesn't want to walk across the
- 39:29but but but him also being like, uh, doing the white splaining thing
- 39:34of like listen on the car burn I'm on official police business. You're not
- 39:38doing anything totally right, yeah, like don't ever do that shit again.
- 39:43And then yeah, but then being like you need me more than I need
- 39:46you. You eat p more than that is wrong with you? You need
- 39:54you eat? Oh dude, man, sometimes I love my own brilliant student.
- 40:07But he he but he knows he's he's smart. He's definitely smarter than
- 40:13Bruce in this movie because it's like he understands. Yeah, because he understands
- 40:19that it's like, dude, like this situation is fucked and like I don't
- 40:24have to stay here, like you just figure the shit out yourself totally ye.
- 40:28Like as the movie goes, he gets more involved unfortunately like for him,
- 40:34but Bruce, Bruce immediately is like, all right, I need you
- 40:37more than you need me because he's humble, Bruce. He is, He's
- 40:42so humble in this movie because of the fact that he's back right where he
- 40:45started in the first way, and that's why the second one doesn't work as
- 40:49well as this one, because he's so at hit the top of his game.
- 40:53He's Rocky three in this movie. Yeah, yeah, of the Rockies.
- 40:58Yeah, I agree. I think he also just I think there's a
- 41:04way that he owns his own position in the situation that makes him feel less
- 41:10racist. Yeah, totally, Or like it's not less racist, it's just
- 41:15like ignorant of of like certain things and understanding that he is and doesn't know
- 41:22because like, I mean, the the shitty thing about terms like racist is
- 41:27the fact that it's like we all are and like we all have our blind
- 41:30spots with those things. It's just like the way culture melds like racism versus
- 41:37what's it called systemic racism, and not being able to like have nuanced with
- 41:43certain kinds of words end up like being like putting people in these positions where
- 41:47it's like, well, you're racist, and it's like even though they might
- 41:50have done a racist thing, and it's like it is racist in the moment,
- 41:52and you'll just end up being like, oh, well I'm not racist,
- 41:55and it's like, bro, it's not OK, but I think I
- 41:59think also there's there's the kind of like your prejudice versus racist, Like racist
- 42:06implies a sort of maliciousness or hatred that people don't want to be associated.
- 42:10Yeah totally, yeah exactly, So that's what they're reacting to. They're being
- 42:15reacting to being called bad people, which nobody wants to believe about themselves.
- 42:20Totally. But yeah, like and that's why, like I think Bruce is
- 42:24just being himself in this movie, and that's something that Samuel all can respect.
- 42:29Yeah totally. And Samuel's wig looks really good in this Oh yeah totally,
- 42:34but good nice, nice, a little bit of a balt a little
- 42:37bit of maybe it's not a wig, maybe this is his real I think
- 42:40it is. It is a little bit. There's filled in stuff. Don't
- 42:44for him too, I don't know, but yeah, I love I love
- 42:49this setup too, where where what's his name? Bruce gets gets the first
- 42:55riddle and he's like, so was guy's confused? And then hold on,
- 43:07McClean, I got this. I'm good at the stuff. And then it's
- 43:09just like figuring it out and then and then Bruce having the like yeah,
- 43:15you got the answer, Like the excitement that he doesn't have to think about
- 43:20it, he's got a guy that can do this kind of thinking for him,
- 43:23and totally excited that there's someone else to solve. But then he like
- 43:30gets the thing wrong and he's like no, no, no, it's not
- 43:31that, and he's like, wait what it's not that. It's one of
- 43:35those mysteries. So he's kind of like because he realizes it's a misdirect thing
- 43:38and but like now Bruce's it's one confidence Yeah, totally, totally. Yeah.
- 43:45So it's like it's really cool because these guys have to like rely on
- 43:47each other and one of them is a white cop and the other one is
- 43:52a black guy from Harlem, and like it's really interesting. The Perry gets
- 43:55really like totally these kinds of guys is a really good point, and the
- 44:01movie mentions Rodney King right like so like it is it is. The movie
- 44:07has the awareness of this. Yeah, and then they they He's like ah
- 44:14ha ha too late, and then he makes them like humiliate themselves by jumping
- 44:21away from a bomb and then he I didn't say Simon says yeah exactly,
- 44:27which is such a good way of like adding that too. That in it
- 44:31too where it's like, oh, this is sometimes he does. Sometimes he
- 44:35doesn't say, Simon says, and it's like, oh, I gotta trick
- 44:37this person tricks and so many stolen cars in this just so many people.
- 44:45He stops a New York cab so they can go into the subway. Doesn't
- 44:52Jeremy Iron seem like he could be the brother of Oh yeah, totally.
- 44:58Yeah Slytherin man that I am slither not not Slitherin. I'm so slyther His
- 45:07name is sname, My name is sebatis name. Yeah, exactly from Slytherin.
- 45:21I don't know anything about Harry Potter, Yeah, not much. I
- 45:23know I know that there's SI. I know that there's a little bit of
- 45:29a slitherm. Did we get these like fucking great action scenes just so like
- 45:38all the driving shit is so hyperkinetic and so awesome and so well shot and
- 45:45driving through fucking the park Oh yeah, that was really cool and like I
- 45:52know a better way like he used to and he used to he used to
- 45:55drive a cab Samuel Jackson, which is great because he's like going yeast,
- 46:00yeah, we should be going out. He's like, hold down, I
- 46:05didn't see the parkway said through the park brings the rules, Bruce, and
- 46:09then he requests an emergency vehicle so that he can Oh man, so good,
- 46:17and he loses a bunch of people who are following him, but then
- 46:21he just ends up following the car and he But what's awesome is Bruce gets
- 46:28the idea to split up. Oh yeah, so he can get on the
- 46:31subway earlier. Yeah, earlier on the line. And then Samuel l has
- 46:36to get to the station before him. Yeah, exactly. And then Bruce
- 46:39misses the subway, so he goes runs out and jumps onto the subway car,
- 46:46which is so scary. So can I just say, like, as
- 46:51much as people are always like, ah heat, ah heat, It's got
- 46:53such amazing action scenes. This feels like so much. Christopher Nolan took so
- 47:00much from this and put it in the Batman movies. Uncle's boised. Now
- 47:06in the Batman movies, added Harry right, Oh man, dude. And
- 47:12then as Samuel all is stopped and some douche bag gets into the car.
- 47:19Oh yeah, some some fucking uh what you don't like white people? And
- 47:27he looked he had so much uh George Anthony Devolder Santos energy. He gave
- 47:31me. He gave me. I thought he was like very ted raymy oh
- 47:37yeah, my god, would totally play dude like this totally in in in
- 47:45a way lower budget maybe a Van dam movie instead, it wouldn't have McTiernan
- 47:50budget. McTiernan would never cast say Ted Ray maybe now well now due mctiernan's
- 47:58so good, dude, Yeah, totally, yeah, for sure. Bruce
- 48:01gets in and he's like, come a cop, all right, calm down
- 48:06everybody when he's like looking for the bomb. And then Samuel gets down into
- 48:12the subway to get to the phone, and the guy who the Ted Raby
- 48:15guys just frightened in the back. Hilarious, dude, at this Probably we've
- 48:20had kind of almost like a Samuel l mini season. Oh yeah, the
- 48:24amount we've talked about him, like and if you guys want to hear some
- 48:28extra episodes like deeply c and of course and which one dude good night along
- 48:34kiss good night? Yeah, totally do you want to hear some of those
- 48:37episodes? Definitely come a patron. Bruce Willis sees an emergency phone that looks
- 48:42very strange and not like an emergency phone, and he takes it. He
- 48:46opens it and sees that there's a bomb inside is inside the plastico And what
- 48:52was what's nice about this scene is that also Samuel L does these in the
- 49:00writing and the performance. There's such nice subtlety where Bruce Will has picked up
- 49:06the phone or yell he didn't want to yell at the woman and and uh,
- 49:13what's his name? Samuel scared her off. And then when he gets
- 49:16into the subway, he's like jumps over the rail. He jumps, or
- 49:21like the subway security guy sees him this like wiener guy. Yeah, and
- 49:24he's like he follows him. Yeah, And Samuel LL gets down and starts
- 49:30trying to he steals the phone away from well, he gets another business guy.
- 49:34Well, he's like he's like he first he wants to be like chill
- 49:37about it, nice about it because he's like, Okay, I don't want
- 49:38to cause the drama or anything, right. And then well, and it's
- 49:44also there's a respectability thing about it of like, oh this guy, I
- 49:47am a black man, I know my place in this society. And I
- 49:52think he's trying to be like approach it from dan angle of not trying to
- 49:55see exactly scary to this person or aggressive, right, what I said.
- 50:01But dude, when he's like, uh, please, can I use the
- 50:07phone? Use the other one, and he lifts up the thing and it's
- 50:09just fiers and he's like, hey, listen, bro, I was here
- 50:15first, and get away from the goddamn phone. It's mad. Yeah,
- 50:22I loved it. And then but dude, the cop, the squeamish,
- 50:28shaky, her hands up, shaky fucking cop. Man, it was so
- 50:32And then subtlely when sorry, sorry, but subtly when he puts the phone
- 50:37back on the on the monk, oh man, okay, you have to
- 50:40answer the phone, like so so brilliantly. It's amazing, amazing Samula all
- 50:49performance, Like that's the thing. It's like he's already been set up so
- 50:55much earlier in the movie as a person who's very where of what it means
- 51:01to be black in America, in New York City at this time, et
- 51:06cetera, et cetera. All these things like just to like be like to
- 51:08have a gun on him pulled by a police officer, like this movie is
- 51:12like relevant, like like maybe even more so today, you know what I
- 51:16mean? Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely except for no cell phones, right
- 51:21of course. But man, when damn sell your phone. Yeah, and
- 51:28this guy who's like, oh man, this Wiener guy who they got,
- 51:31who's the perfect, the perfect weener cop to be like put your heads up,
- 51:40yeah, totally, and and him being like him picking up the phone
- 51:45and being like I'm here and McLean, he's come. He's out of shape,
- 51:52yeah, and then and then he just goes like duck oh man,
- 52:00and then the McClean throws the bomb out something like you're, oh yeah,
- 52:07if you want to shoot me, then shoot me, but I have to
- 52:12answer the phone, man, dude. And then this fucking thing where he
- 52:22and this this is why the wiener cop pays off and the fucking police guy
- 52:28or the business guy pays off. Man, it's the McClean throws the fucking
- 52:35bomb out the car and it's slow motions outside totally, and it's just like
- 52:39all in blackness. You just see the yellow phone a contrast with black.
- 52:44And then the fucking bomb explodes and the train car flies out, and fucking
- 52:47Samuel pulls the cop and throws him down, saves the cop and fucking what's
- 52:53his name Bruce Willis jumps down and the car just like destroys the stairs and
- 53:00like shoots out the plume of smoke and it just like it looks so viscerally
- 53:06nine to eleven that it's scary. It's like it's just like that kind of
- 53:10stuff when shot that widely, and like people like huddling away and like like
- 53:16dust getting on them. It's so scary. Well, you know, like
- 53:20they stopped filming movies in settings like New York. Every remember when nine to
- 53:24eleven happened. Everything was like a moratorium on like any content they cut.
- 53:30They blacklisted songs that reminded people of planes and nine to eleven and things like
- 53:35that, like, I it's crazy to me that this you know, like
- 53:43they were imagining it so much and then it happened. Yeah, when And
- 53:46what's interesting about that happening? That kind of crazy event and show in a
- 53:53city like in a city like New York, like shifting the mindset and how
- 54:00useful it became as like the never forget stuff, how usefully became as propaganda
- 54:06to be like you look at this, look at this Superman. It's nine
- 54:09elevening an entire city where it's just like whoa this kind of imagery so intensely
- 54:16focused on as like this is what your human tragedy means, and this is
- 54:22how we're going to get in the emotion. Yeah, this is how we're
- 54:23gonna weaponize emotions against you. But also never show the blood or or show
- 54:30any of the actual aftermath, Like this movie shows aftermath of shit. And
- 54:34yeah, sure there's like stuff where he's like, oh man, I'm not
- 54:37waiting Virduan today, you know, silly lines like that, but it's like
- 54:42you see people reacting and they're terrified. There's yeah, but there's still an
- 54:45innocence to it, like that. Bruce is so tough and well we have
- 54:50we have a hero to look up that, whereas like with fucking Superman,
- 54:52we have him snapping the next of people and being like this is how we're
- 54:57gonna have to save people, you know, Whereas like Bruce is always like,
- 55:00oh no, people died because of me. I was part of that,
- 55:05you know, Whereas like yeah, Bruce always like he's like he takes
- 55:07it personally. Yeah, would people die? Right, And it's like this
- 55:13shouldn't have happened. These people shouldn't have died. He gets mad, something
- 55:16happens, right, whereas like Superman is like, yeah, stuff needs to
- 55:22happen. Wait, why are you comparing it so much a Superman. Well,
- 55:24because in Batman v. Superman, when when you see the imagery from
- 55:30the first Superman of like buildings collapsing, like people used to compare it so
- 55:37much to nine to eleven, and then in the second one having Batman featured
- 55:40in a nine to eleven scenario dictating all of what his world us are going
- 55:45to be. That's sort of like how they kind of trying to mush like
- 55:51a sort of American jingoism into that movie, whereas this one, the innocence
- 55:54that you mentioned is used as a way to show a type of hero and
- 56:01show what we can be in situations like this. Yeah, there's like a
- 56:06real kind of like purity of American spirit. Yeah, exactly, we can
- 56:09be people who experience this and be Bruce, who's like, oh no,
- 56:14life is important. Those people died. They were just faceless people who didn't
- 56:19have blood when we shot them. You know, it's it's like, oh
- 56:22no, this is sad. Something sad happened, you know. Man,
- 56:25these next day animal runs, they all get pulled in. Bruce makes a
- 56:31reference to his deaf ear that he got from blood splattered blood starts, Wait,
- 56:37is this the elevator. No, this isn't the elevator. This is
- 56:39them getting pulled into the FBI van to be like, we need to know
- 56:44what he knows? What does he know? Do you know? Does the
- 56:47name other German bad guy in this movie? Tall German bad guy ring a
- 56:53bell? He's the he was great, the tall the Jaws of this movie.
- 57:00He was such a good secondary bad guy totally. And the woman secondary
- 57:06bad guy, the severe woman who was so hot, so German, so
- 57:09German, so severe. And of course our main character, doctor Fluger Christ
- 57:16here here pigs here doctor Yeah, and they interrogate him a little bit,
- 57:24uh, and then we get a phone call. We get like the mystery
- 57:28guy in the background who's like chewing on his glasses. Still chewing on your
- 57:31glasses to look more manly. Yeah, that guy was in this. That
- 57:37guy's a really really good actor. He was in Mister Robot. Uh.
- 57:43But this scene where he's like does the mystery guy in the back is like,
- 57:46does the name Simon Phoenix not Simon Simon Gruber, No, not Simon
- 57:52Hans Gruber. No. He says something like it's a different name, like
- 57:58he was born Oh no, no, yeah, yeah, I'm just saying
- 58:01the guy he's like, does the name Gruber mean anything to you? And
- 58:05then Bruce has like the moment and then it cuts to that first scene where
- 58:08he just sees Hans falling. That's that's so impactful. Even as kids when
- 58:15we were like I didn't see the first one. Yeah where, but even
- 58:17still you knew it's like, oh, that's this port yeah yeah right,
- 58:22and you didn't need uh any even the first look they could be brothers.
- 58:27They did, that's my brother. I want to see my brother and and
- 58:32herrings a bell. Yeah I love that line. And then the other guy
- 58:37is like, not gonna tell me in La like that thing with the building
- 58:42in LA. I love it. I was just gonna say, do how
- 58:45much do you love that? This movie is about brothers? Yea brothers,
- 58:51dude, brothers? Oh man, would you want to be a bad Basically,
- 59:00the whole setup of the movie, this is really where the movie starts,
- 59:04is the whole like big setup of the movie where it's like three o'clock
- 59:07school building is going to explode. We all have to like locate, we
- 59:13all have to go there so that this ship doesn't explode. The ship's gotta
- 59:20stop. Miller dude. Also, I gotta say this lady appears throughout the
- 59:27movie. Her name is Sharon Washington. She plays Officer Jane. She's also
- 59:31a d animal, but so good. Also, she did such a good
- 59:37job. She had like enough of a character that she could have had a
- 59:40name. Totally totally, but I love again. I wish things when they
- 59:47were in such chaos work this way. But Arthur Cobb is the kind of
- 59:52police chief that I would always want in every community because he's like, now
- 59:58there are thousands of buildings, I need sanitation workers everybody, although like government
- 1:00:02employees to just start checking schools for bombs. And like with the calmness of
- 1:00:10this and the co calmness of a Graham Green, Graham Green was so good
- 1:00:15in like he's the kind of like side actor that like instills instills majestic and
- 1:00:22everything and like no, but like instills your faith in things. Like you
- 1:00:25just you see him and you're like, yeah, like I mean, like
- 1:00:28if this guy's involved, I'm sure it'll be fine, of course. Mister
- 1:00:30Crabtree himself yeah ah man. And I uh like Simon Gruber that like beautiful
- 1:00:37camera shot of like the overhead and then they travels right over to Simon and
- 1:00:44he's like looking through the binoculars and he's like they bought it hook line and
- 1:00:49he does it like weird face thing, and so he's thinking he's slinky in
- 1:00:54this he's sex He is very sexy in the movie. He They definitely he
- 1:01:00sexed him up. I think like dyed hair. Dude. Yeah, dude.
- 1:01:04And as he says, sinker, he'd we see the trucks come in
- 1:01:07that are going to take away. Oh, we also get at the beginning
- 1:01:09they tried the truth by saying that there were fourteen don't truck stolen stolen?
- 1:01:15They say it at the Yeah, there's like a mention of it, just
- 1:01:17to the side of like, oh, I don't know, they just got
- 1:01:21stolen. I wonder why they're trying the tooth. Yeah, for sure.
- 1:01:29All the phone calls, Oh it's not Officer Jane. That's not the lady
- 1:01:32I was talking about. There's another black lady with a yellow outfit. Oh,
- 1:01:38she was so good. The lady who gets pissed for having to the
- 1:01:45dispatcher. Yeah, yeah, she's so hilarious because all the dispatchers have to
- 1:01:50go to one area now for everything because all the sanitation workers and everybody's been
- 1:01:54moved to getting into what's it called looking for the bombs in the buildings.
- 1:02:01Uh. And Hans Gruber comes up to this doofy like Danny maul ruined guy
- 1:02:08who like works to the mayor, and he's like, shows him a badge
- 1:02:14that says he's part of the like engineering department of the city, like that
- 1:02:20needs to take care of this big hole that's been made. Uh. And
- 1:02:23they drive all this he's doctor No, no're not here. Yeah, he's
- 1:02:28not doctor yet he's the other He puts on the terrible American accent, the
- 1:02:34terrible American accent does it's so funny. Yeah, like a British guy doing
- 1:02:39a German guy doing an American accent. And now it's Flugauga. They go
- 1:02:45into the bank and he's like, hello, I'm doctor literally doctor. I
- 1:02:52left so much, Dude, I laughed so much. It's so funny.
- 1:03:00Christ Fondest New Dice, heia fondest New Dice, heia fondest New Dice.
- 1:03:02Kua oh Man, doctor Floga oh Man. And the severe tall German guy
- 1:03:12the Jaws when he's like lanky doctor pick like body but like a dangerous doctor
- 1:03:20pick scary doctor pick oh Man and then he he uh like otto, the
- 1:03:29big the dull German guy shoots that that Danny Mulrouna takes his badge. Yeah,
- 1:03:37so like they do like a hostile takeover of the the bank. It's
- 1:03:43like we're more of a central bank, we governments and things like that.
- 1:03:46Yeah, while Samuel l and oh Man, the shirt's already getting dirty for
- 1:03:52Bruce Willis and like I love his like oversized, like the like button up
- 1:03:57that he's very It's kind of like Kirkland from It's Very Dad Chic, Dad
- 1:04:03Core Superbus. Yeah, totally. Oh Man. And the severe lady who
- 1:04:09like pulls out the like Katia is her name, dude, she pulls She's
- 1:04:16so good. She pulls out the wire cutters and like cuts through the fence
- 1:04:20and just throws them casually down, and it's like so determined, like knows
- 1:04:26exactly what to do. And then the tall German guy brings down that like
- 1:04:30random space machine that Schwartzy uses to Oh dude. Yeah, like they have
- 1:04:36the like power drills from Total Recalls, like drill into the big yeah,
- 1:04:42and they like make a big hole. Yeah, they totally. I was
- 1:04:45I thought the Schwartzy was she into from Yeah, totally, totally. And
- 1:04:49then they break into the bank and they're just stealing gold. Yeah, I
- 1:04:54love gold, but I thought this was a currency exchange. Make that dude.
- 1:05:00Then they've put him to sleep with the like also the Tranquilized, they
- 1:05:08just used the same John mcderian just used them. He also used He also
- 1:05:16used some of the same actors. Dean Norris, Oh yeah, totally.
- 1:05:21Who you thought was Roles from the I thought he was Rolls from the Wire
- 1:05:26God give out a walk back. Did you like how Gibbons you can't leave
- 1:05:34the best like that was in this movie? Oh yeah, totally Gibbons,
- 1:05:45you know. Yeah? Oh man, them them treating gold like gold was
- 1:05:56great. That's like something you don't really see that often. Like gold is
- 1:05:59fucking heavy, and it's not just like gold is heavy, like one bar
- 1:06:03of gold is heavy, like like you wouldn't even be able to lift bags
- 1:06:10of that. That's why I love the idea of like them bringing in like
- 1:06:14truckloads and like getting the cranes or the cranes the I don't know those pushes
- 1:06:19pushes front Jean, but yeah, them drilling through and the Katia like sexily
- 1:06:27going through the vault, and then the like guard being like they're coming in,
- 1:06:32they're breaking in, and her like like going through the safe and then
- 1:06:38just murdering him. It was like and that guard like frantically shooting the shotgun.
- 1:06:43There's a little bit of a kind of nihilism with the taking of lives
- 1:06:47in this movie. Though, Yeah, I don't feel like maybe you know,
- 1:06:50like it was scary and sad in the movies before, but like it
- 1:06:55feels like Bruce kills some people and he's not really that sad about it.
- 1:07:00He's a little dead eyed about it. He's a little dead eyed about it.
- 1:07:03It's I mean, it's the third time. And also it's like,
- 1:07:06oh no, I have to stop bombs from blowing up at different parts of
- 1:07:12the city. But like when Cotton comes in, she got the like like
- 1:07:17the swirly sword or whatever, and she like slices this dude's neck and she
- 1:07:23he's like, I think he's dead. I think he's dead. Yeah,
- 1:07:31man, And then like the aggression to which everybody's using like really like intense
- 1:07:42machines in this to drive into the vault like with such confidence. It's like,
- 1:07:48man, really this but it's awesome. Yeah, And they finally get
- 1:07:55to the phone Bruce and and Samuel and John answer phone. He's like,
- 1:08:00John, you're out of shape. You've barely made it. You've barely made
- 1:08:06what has four leggs and travels? What has four legs and tross? You
- 1:08:12don't have kids? Do? Yeah? And then I don't get her.
- 1:08:15Father better. I don't get it either. Better father Samuel, But he's
- 1:08:19not a fault. I don't even know if he's a father. He's like,
- 1:08:21but he's got kids he takes care of that's true, he's got nephews,
- 1:08:28but he I don't know. He seems like he's a father because he's
- 1:08:30got like he's got all this shit. But I love I love how they
- 1:08:33figure out the next bomb and Samuel being like, don't open it, Smarts,
- 1:08:41You've just I've just active. I am a bomb. You have just
- 1:08:45heartened me. Shit, I told you not to open it. And then
- 1:08:50they have to like do this game where they're filling in so like there's like
- 1:08:56a water game and like my math brain doesn't understand. So like there's a
- 1:09:00three leader bottle and a five leader bottle and they have to put exactly four
- 1:09:05leads the weight of four leaders on one of the on the on the pad
- 1:09:12so that it like disarms the bump. But I'm not sure, Like,
- 1:09:15what do they figure out? You have to like empty, there's some way
- 1:09:20you have to fill. You fill the three with three, and then you
- 1:09:27fill the a third with the I don't know. I don't know. No,
- 1:09:33yeah, because what was it. I'm trying to figure it out.
- 1:09:35I don't know. I don't know. If they figure out, and it's
- 1:09:39pretty great, but I'm like, yeah, if regular, regular people have
- 1:09:44to solve these puzzles, I don't know, invited, I don't Yeah,
- 1:09:46I would be fucked. I'd feel like seven weights start again. Yeah,
- 1:09:56exactly, exactly, dude. But when he goes you done and then he's
- 1:10:00like, what were you gonna say? See? So, like this is
- 1:10:04where Bruce has his reverse racism moment and like have I oppressed you? Have
- 1:10:10I oppressed your people? Somehow? It's kind of weird because it is.
- 1:10:14I do think that the movie is also siding with him in a way.
- 1:10:16Ideologically. It's like, hey, stop complaining about this, and it's like
- 1:10:23whoa what No, I mean, I mean, I don't I don't know
- 1:10:30if I agree. Maybe maybe but I don't know, Like I don't doubt
- 1:10:35that Bruce Willis, Bruce Willis's character at like best would believe this kind of
- 1:10:42thing or would say this kind of thing. Have I oppressed? You have
- 1:10:45it? It's like that's not that's not the point, dude. Like it's
- 1:10:48like I get I get what he's doing, Like this isn't the situation like
- 1:10:51we're doing something else now, you know, like get with it sort of
- 1:10:56thing, but like I don't know, it's just it's like it's that the
- 1:11:01point is it's them coming together to solve a problem together, So like it
- 1:11:06kind of doesn't matter, but like on a macro sense, it does matter,
- 1:11:12and they're the movie's doing so much to say so many things about this
- 1:11:16that I feel like in this moment, it's like I don't know if this
- 1:11:19is the right thing to like be standing behind, to give to give that
- 1:11:24kind of screen time. You know, Yeah, totally, no, No,
- 1:11:27I totally I agree. I just what I'm what I think though,
- 1:11:31is like in the moment, like it's like hey, man, like we're
- 1:11:35here, you and I are here, We're we're we're figuring this out right
- 1:11:41now, you know, rather than like earlier which was like, hey,
- 1:11:45dude, like this is I get it, this is a is this moment?
- 1:11:53Do you want some but yeah, yeah, but I mean like there's
- 1:11:56no doubt even Bruce Willis would probably like himself, would probably feel this way,
- 1:12:00you know what I mean? Yeah, Like, yeah, I think
- 1:12:04that's a way that a lot of Americans, a lot of white Americans felt
- 1:12:09in this time. Yeah. I think there there's a lot of like,
- 1:12:13you know, I think a lot of the kind of like story about racism
- 1:12:21in America is driven by just like the fragility of white people who can't like
- 1:12:28deal with feeling like they're a part of something that is a bad like they're
- 1:12:31the bad. Yeah, totally. I mean, but I mean, like
- 1:12:36the thing is, like, what's what's interesting and where I see yeah where
- 1:12:43where? Yeah? Where I see things like you know, specifically white fragility
- 1:12:51as being weaponized in the future. Is that, like you can the assumption
- 1:12:57is that white people are somehow more or fragile than anybody else. I mean,
- 1:13:00they're just as fragile as anybody else, right, So it's like it
- 1:13:03hurts everybody to like everybody's feelings to ever be a part of some bad group.
- 1:13:10I mean we have that complex too. Being serves right. It's like
- 1:13:13nobody ever wants to admit about see its ever, especially nationalists, right,
- 1:13:17They're just like, no, it didn't happen. It didn't happen. You
- 1:13:19know, it's it feels bad. It did happen, but many bad things
- 1:13:23happen to us, or or it did it didn't. It did happen,
- 1:13:27but it wasn't as bad. It's like it's like stuff like that's not worse
- 1:13:30than anything that was done to us exactly exactly right. So it's like it's
- 1:13:34it's hard because of the fact that it's like taking taking culpability is very difficult.
- 1:13:41It's not like like Germans did it, but they lost a war,
- 1:13:45you know. Yeah, you have to be like ultra hum humbled in order
- 1:13:48for it to be yeah, and that's well yeah, And I mean not
- 1:13:55a lot of people are willing to have that kind of conversation intellectually or reckon
- 1:14:00with that on a like spiritual basis. And there's and there's no way there
- 1:14:05is. Something really bad would have to happen to America for that to exist.
- 1:14:10Well, a race war, I think would have to happen. Well,
- 1:14:13a race war did happen. But I think that it would another one,
- 1:14:15would that the one that that all the like white nationalists have been calling
- 1:14:18about and saying about for the last forty years. Maybe I think that's what
- 1:14:23would have to happen in order for America to truly have like a reckoning with
- 1:14:28like with the with with with the project of white supremacy in America. Yeah,
- 1:14:33I think I think something worse than that would have to happen. Like,
- 1:14:39I understand what you're saying, but I'm thinking, like, like,
- 1:14:43I don't know what's worse than that, like well, like a specific specified
- 1:14:46genocide. I mean, I would think that would be a part of something
- 1:14:49like that. A race war. I think that would like happen. I
- 1:14:53guess when I'm thinking about it. When I'm thinking about it, I'm I'm
- 1:14:55still thinking back to but it would be totally different than than the Civil War
- 1:15:00in the States. Yeah, probably probably something. But like anyway, the
- 1:15:03point is is that when when you get to a I mean, they're they're
- 1:15:09just never going to get to that. I just have a huge doubt that
- 1:15:11it's going to get to that. Yeah, it's not in anybody's interests for
- 1:15:15that to happen. Like it would just like destabilize literally everything. Yeah,
- 1:15:21but you know, like I think that that's a demon that America will continue
- 1:15:27to wrestle with until for really really long time. And I don't know if
- 1:15:31there's any exercising it. I don't know if there's any like absolvation of it.
- 1:15:36I mean it depends on what you're like what obsolvation means, right,
- 1:15:42Like I just mean that like if there's like a far enough removedness and there
- 1:15:45there's like a real, real, true, intellectually honest acceptance of a thing
- 1:15:55on on a cultural level. Yeah, that's what I'm saying that that's probably
- 1:16:00gonna happen. Yeah, that's that's unless something like really really terrible. That's
- 1:16:02what I mean. So I think problems will persist in whatever form, and
- 1:16:05probably EBB and flow from how bad and good did they get? Yeah for
- 1:16:10sure, like what part of the scale they're on or whatever. But it's
- 1:16:14like also slow moving, right, like how do you you can't you know?
- 1:16:17Like this is how they figured it out. They filled the first the
- 1:16:21three gallon with two gallons and then emptied five gallons. How did they know
- 1:16:27it was two gallons? That I don't know? Oh, I know,
- 1:16:32okay, they filled the five gallon, they filled the three with the five,
- 1:16:40and then they had two left over right in the thing, so they
- 1:16:45emptied the yeah yeah, yeah, they emptied the yeah yeah, three gallon,
- 1:16:53but the two gallons filled the five gallon with five and then empty.
- 1:16:57Yeah, okay, okay, they get it. They win. And also,
- 1:17:02did you notice Simon's hair like slightly different throughout the movie, like like
- 1:17:09more blonde sometimes yeah, totally totally, Like listen, jerk off, I'm
- 1:17:15having a real bad day. I'm sick of you fucking shit temper John.
- 1:17:25Now, where's the school bomb? And he doesn't give it to him?
- 1:17:28Well, no, he gives him a clue. He's like, what's forty?
- 1:17:30What's oh yeah, yeah twenty one, Like it's just half of it,
- 1:17:36oh man. And then the guy, the tall guy's name is Targo.
- 1:17:42Targo. He the like such a good name, he's so good man,
- 1:17:45relaxed Targo. I love that he that Targo is the guy with the
- 1:17:49sense though, he's like, dude, like we're behind, Like what do
- 1:17:53you keep sucking with this dude? Just like killing Well, there's a guy
- 1:17:56that's similar to the dynamic that Hans Gruber has with one of his bad guy
- 1:18:00what's the guy's name again, Frank or something or like in the first one.
- 1:18:03Yeah, like there he's like, come on, dude, what are
- 1:18:08you doing? Like it's it's his own hubrist that brings him down, which
- 1:18:12is what he brought his brother brothers, brothers brothers. Yeah, they get
- 1:18:18the tickets for the was it Yankee Stadium? Yeah? Yeah, and he's
- 1:18:24like, okay, what's and Bruce was saying, what's twenty one nine is
- 1:18:29forty two? Yeah? That was so funny. Uh. And then they're
- 1:18:38trying to figure out like what twenty one twenty two means? Yeah? Hillary
- 1:18:45Clinton also dolls off his mess. Very bad. What's going on in New
- 1:18:49York? Very bad? That John McLean doing what cops should do. I
- 1:18:57mean, yeah, I am your loan no President. If I were there,
- 1:19:00if I weren't in Florida now, I'd be in New York, I'd
- 1:19:03be doing what McLean is doing. But he's doing an okay job, much
- 1:19:10better than Ron des sanctimonious with Our Boys in Blue, So they split up.
- 1:19:19I mean, this movie is very with Our Boys in Blue. Yeah,
- 1:19:23this is very thin blue line. They steal two boys bikes. Oh
- 1:19:30yeah, this like cocky in New York. Kid, Yeah, he did
- 1:19:34a really good job. He's the one who gives him the idea about the
- 1:19:39police not being anywhere because he stopped. He pulls him over because he sees
- 1:19:45that he's stolen something from a store, and he's like, you're gonna go
- 1:19:48to Juvie for a butterfinger And he's like this costan, he's got such annoying
- 1:19:58nineties came. Yeah, like kid, you do what does he say?
- 1:20:00And he's like, what does he saying? So annoying? He's like,
- 1:20:04he says, you want to go to job. Look around you, all
- 1:20:09cops are into something. He's like the most New York kids, it's Christmas.
- 1:20:14You steal the you could steal city Hall. And then yeah, and
- 1:20:17then Bruce has his like gentleized moment where he realizes, oh yeah, what's
- 1:20:24around him not gentleize. Yeah, he's got gentleized. He totally does gentalize
- 1:20:30in this part. Dude. Yeah, and then and then he but then
- 1:20:32he almost gets hit by one of the trucks and he realizes then too that
- 1:20:38it's like oh man like and then he sees that the Federal Reserve is there,
- 1:20:42and that's where the bomb blew up under that that area. While all
- 1:20:46the cops are gone, he goes to Hans Groupers's cops and he's like he
- 1:20:54sees them and he's like, but Glen, what do you want me to
- 1:20:57do with this bomb? He's like, there's cops over there. Good guy
- 1:21:02with the gun with lane, Oh, totally, good guy with the gun
- 1:21:08dude. And Hans Grewber talking to this one flag cop, mister Christophanes newgs
- 1:21:14here, fondest news here, fondest news here, and what's his name?
- 1:21:18Samuel L. Jackson coming up to him and he's like, the black one
- 1:21:21is coming to me. This is so much of it is like, oh
- 1:21:26god, dude. I mean it's funny though, because like the nineties was
- 1:21:32like this though. Yeah, like the cinema and the like stuff of the
- 1:21:39time was informing the car was telling also the culture how if not how to
- 1:21:45feel about it, how certain people feel about it. Yeah, for sure,
- 1:21:49it's very like this is very like woke of them in this time.
- 1:21:55I think so too. I think so too. It showed, it showed
- 1:21:59a situation in a very realistic way, and it gave Samuel L. Jackson
- 1:22:02like he's this co lead in this movie. Oh yeah, such a bold
- 1:22:09move in a movie that like he's about John McClain. They had to They
- 1:22:14had to do it because of a few things. Save American exceptionalism too,
- 1:22:17of course, but also because of you save American exceptionalism, you have to
- 1:22:21add a black eye. Dude. You can't just be the white guy.
- 1:22:24Yeah, of course, that's how you save capitalism too. The reality is
- 1:22:29is that John McClean is the epitome of I don't see color in this movie.
- 1:22:33Oh yeah, and that that was the most yeah, and that was
- 1:22:39the most pro at the time take at the time. Yeah, totally.
- 1:22:43And I love this cop who's like so nice to to Samuel Jackson where he's
- 1:22:48like, oh, I see, I'll take care of that, you know,
- 1:22:51trying to be like gentle. But also I love these moments where like
- 1:22:56these Fluga cops like they kind of don't know how to act, how to
- 1:23:00act, Yeah totally, so they like kind of like are trying to be
- 1:23:03like formal in a way that they're not, like they don't know the protocol
- 1:23:08about. But then what's hilarious is when because the Samuel Jackson doesn't want to
- 1:23:14take the bomb, but John McClane is like, but some kid might find
- 1:23:16it, and he's like, yeah, you're right, some kid might find
- 1:23:18it. And then later on when he gives it to the cops, Yeah,
- 1:23:21totally. When he gives it to the cops, and the cops the
- 1:23:25other flu the cop doesn't want to sit with the bomb, and he's like,
- 1:23:30put it in the back. What if a kid finds it? Copy?
- 1:23:33But also German? Yeah, but also what but also like he just
- 1:23:41is murdering a bunch of people too, Like, I mean people died,
- 1:23:45oh man, How do they like recruit this many Germans? Like these guy's
- 1:23:51got like a paramilitary group. Yeah, totally, oh man. And then
- 1:23:58a Bruce goes in casual to try and sneak into the Federal Reserve U and
- 1:24:04he sees the cop who stole the badge from the goober from earlier and all
- 1:24:13the fucking tall German police surrounding him in the elevator that they go down,
- 1:24:18And I love this scene where he realizes the badge number is from his life,
- 1:24:26six six sixty nine ninety one. Yeah, and he's like, hey,
- 1:24:32I'm I'm like always like, hey, honey, what kind of numbers
- 1:24:36are you? Plan or whatever on the lotto and she goes, I got
- 1:24:43my ticket right here. Yeah, they're all quite tall, and he's like,
- 1:24:45I got my ticket right here, and he shoots one of them and
- 1:24:48like is like, man, this scene where he shoots all of them,
- 1:24:54and like, can I just say some of the lines that they were giving
- 1:24:58such funny Euro lines? Oh it's raining later like dogs and cats. I
- 1:25:04didn't know that we had to take the lift, Like, yeah, totally,
- 1:25:09just making so Euro it was so funny, dude. Yeah, and
- 1:25:13then talk about Euro later, dude, we get a Hugo. Oh,
- 1:25:16totally, totally. We'll get to Hugo and you they have a stop,
- 1:25:20they have a start classic Ugo And what's awesome is man when he shoots that
- 1:25:29last guy and the blood just fucking blood start, blood start, Which that
- 1:25:32was the scene I thought you meant was referring to him getting set. Yeah,
- 1:25:36yeah, yeah, like losing his hearing reference. Oh man, it's
- 1:25:43us. Let's just make your pantheon guy, Samuel, have you noticed his
- 1:25:46his amazing arm acting when he when he's like because he's like a regular guy
- 1:25:54who like has probably like been in fights before, but probably has never been
- 1:25:59like sheen like somebody's like bullets in the face. Yeah, and and just
- 1:26:04like him like reacting to like bloody stuff and being like I kind of don't
- 1:26:11want to touch this is amazing. Oh yeah, him being sort of like
- 1:26:14grossed out in certain seas. He had like such a developed character, like
- 1:26:17it was just like really embodied. That's why I felt like this always just
- 1:26:21was Samuel Jackson, Like it felt like he was playing himself in the movie
- 1:26:26all the way. But yeah, dude, And when Bruce casually drops the
- 1:26:31bar of gold on the ground and picks it up and he's trying to save
- 1:26:38it and he's like carrying it like it's so heavy ugo, which is amazing.
- 1:26:46It was so nice to see the Hugo in the movie. Like I
- 1:26:49wanted to tell the story about how like our uncle souped up an old Hugo
- 1:26:55so that like if you touch the gas very gently and just went just it
- 1:27:00was built for stability, enough speed, it was built for a Yeah.
- 1:27:05Yeah, it wasn't good, It's true. And they have a stop,
- 1:27:11they have a start. Those those fucking cars they could last they literally forever.
- 1:27:16They were like the Nokia Phone of cars. Dude. I love hugoes.
- 1:27:20I still see you goes when we go to Serbia. There's still so
- 1:27:24many. Yeah, they are very good cars. There was a car from
- 1:27:29the former Yugoslavia. It was manufactured in the former Yugoslavia. They were very
- 1:27:32cheap and yeah, there's just very good. They're very good quality. They
- 1:27:36could be repaired easily, you know, like there's like the old Yugo window
- 1:27:40when the when the window opening thing breaks, you have to put two screwdrivers
- 1:27:45on either side to hold the window up in place. Put the screw drivers
- 1:27:50in the holes. Yeah, so they're trying to figure out the president.
- 1:27:57The four president, Yeah, forties to the third would be Hillary Clintlington of
- 1:28:03course, is what they mentioned. And they also mentioned Dull Drum for this
- 1:28:08movie too. This movie had a lot of it. There was the first
- 1:28:12fight between us. They mentioned both of us as president totally totally, but
- 1:28:16this movie predicted it. I love when they steal. They end up stealing
- 1:28:20the because they see a guy with a car phone. So they end up
- 1:28:25stealing his car and they drive and sevenel all goes, hey, who's the
- 1:28:31twenty first president? Fuck you or go fuck yourselves? Stole his car?
- 1:28:40Though they ask the guy who twenty first president was Yeah, man, where
- 1:28:50were we? They're driving to try and find where where do they end up
- 1:28:59going? Where did they end up going? After this? Show? Me?
- 1:29:18Sorry, it's a little don't they go? Don't they start chasing the
- 1:29:25the these trucks, Don't they start chasing the isn't it? Well? Yeah,
- 1:29:30they're trying to find out where, where, which peer they're going to,
- 1:29:34and he's given them. Uh, they're trying to follow the where the
- 1:29:39trucks are going, and the rest of the time they're trying to figure out
- 1:29:44what the president is because that'll give them the answer to which school the bomb
- 1:29:49is, right, and then Simon does an amazing fucking trick where he tells
- 1:29:56that he calls into a radio station and arts telling them for the police.
- 1:30:01Yeah, and there's a big bomb in a school and everybody starts freaking out
- 1:30:06so that they try and create more chaos, which is fucking awesome, great
- 1:30:11idea. There's a bomb in the studio, great episode of what was that
- 1:30:18episode in that was the Muppet Show? Right? Yeah, yeah, I'm
- 1:30:24so glad you got that deep cut outrageous. Yeah, there's of course there's
- 1:30:30in the studio that was also the doo doo doo doo when I'm gonna doo
- 1:30:33doo doo doo exactly. Yeah, well sand Sandy good old Sandy Cortez.
- 1:30:39Yeah, yes, so where were we? Yeah, Bruce, I was
- 1:30:45gonna say, Bruce McLean. Bruce McLean grabs a truck and a trucker another
- 1:30:50Danny mulroon, who's great. Well, you know who it is. That's
- 1:30:55Gibbons. That is Gibbons. That is given. It's a meaty me because
- 1:31:00he actually reveals who the twenty first president was, and that's Chester A Arthur.
- 1:31:04Hold on a minute, Jerry, let me get that hat. So
- 1:31:08he takes Jerry's hat and gets another boxy shirt to put on so that he
- 1:31:13can shoot these flags. So like he shoots them, and then like the
- 1:31:18guy who played Gibbons and in tret Or two is like it's like those guys
- 1:31:25dead, and he's like, yeah, I killed them. Like this is
- 1:31:30the most callous Bruce that I've seen, Like because I'm like, I know
- 1:31:35he doesn't care about life if someone chooses like a bad thing, but like
- 1:31:41it's pretty callous for another guy to see murder and to just be like,
- 1:31:45yeah, they got what they deserved. Dude, Yeah, totally, I
- 1:31:49killed him. That would scare me if I was. That would be like
- 1:31:53weirdly shows theopathic. Yeah, oh dude, that you killed someone. Yeah,
- 1:31:59totally, yes, Jerry, I'm afraid he is a psychopath. Bruce.
- 1:32:06I mean, at this point, wouldn't you be a psychopath as well?
- 1:32:09Of course? Yeah? Yeah, exactly, tell him to find out
- 1:32:13the twenty first president was Chester A. Arthur knows well, it's it's set
- 1:32:20up too, because he knows all about New York, right, because he's
- 1:32:23all talking about the Tons, right, and he's like, I don't know
- 1:32:30that, Jerry, take care of yourself. What about these dead guys?
- 1:32:33What should I do about them? Yeah? So Samuel gets to Yankee Stadium
- 1:32:41and yeah, and there's a tiny baseball uh stadium that he picks up,
- 1:32:48and the guys like, no, there aren't two of them, so he
- 1:32:53wants to he has to follow them. Weird. It's a little weird,
- 1:32:57but it gives us a reason to to like, Okay, like Simon,
- 1:33:00Simon is pretty such an elaborate plan, but I mean, think about it's
- 1:33:04so think about think about the elements. Okay, First of all, he
- 1:33:10had to he had to like find somehow find in the midst of doing all
- 1:33:15of this other planning, somehow he had to find like fucking like two thousand
- 1:33:20liters of pancake syrup to put in a fake explosion. Not just the bake
- 1:33:26explosion, but I have like a realistically enough booby trap explosion. I get
- 1:33:31it. Where did he get that? Like it's like a tub, a
- 1:33:34big plastic tub. But that's like pa because like also you're like you're either
- 1:33:41paying these guys who are contractors now or you're telling them. Dude, there's
- 1:33:46one hundred and forty billion dollars worth of gold. I'm gonna split. What's
- 1:33:51like take from the pancakes syrup guy? What is that? What is that
- 1:33:56guy making? Yeah? Exactly, I can't. Does you have to spend
- 1:34:00money to make money? Right? You have to spend money and make money.
- 1:34:02Simon knows that better than anyone. Dude, He's starting his own country.
- 1:34:06That's why he's got more money than Kentucky. Yeah, yeah, totally.
- 1:34:15And then they're they're all people are starting to freak out about their kids,
- 1:34:19about their kids of course, of course I like Jimmy Hendrix, of
- 1:34:24course. And but they find out that Chester a. Arthur is the school.
- 1:34:29Yeah, and then they're able to then zero in on them exactly exactly,
- 1:34:32and then Danny malroon Bald's bomb destroyer, Danny Malron he is diffusing the
- 1:34:40bomb and everybody gets out, but Samuel L. Jackson's nephews with other kids,
- 1:34:45Yeah, and they like go and they get locked in a room because
- 1:34:48they're like being skeptical about the situation. They're like, what's going on here?
- 1:34:53Like there's like something weird is going So it shows that they're like smart,
- 1:34:57but they inadvertently like make the in the moment their instincts are correct and
- 1:35:02then like which is kind of cool because it shows how like they're also there.
- 1:35:06It's because they're Samuel J. Yeah, they're like a very taught taught
- 1:35:11early critical thinking. But they make a mistake. And then what's his name,
- 1:35:15Uh, Simon is like trying to contact Niels and he's like, Niels
- 1:35:20is dead happy about it, but I love I love murderers. Yeah,
- 1:35:30some could say happy blow job rush man, dude, but clean the truck
- 1:35:40you're driving has thirteen billion dollars in it. I wonder if a deal would
- 1:35:44be out of the question. Yeah, I got a deal for you call
- 1:35:48everyone the rock your head. No, I'll drive this truck up your ass.
- 1:35:51Homophobia rus Oh dude, he has got a cover I mean to the
- 1:35:59clearly queerly codd I mean he's got dyed hair, dude, of course,
- 1:36:03wearing purple outfits. Yeah, he's he's very slender in a particular kind of
- 1:36:10way. Oh yeah, totally, totally. And then Targo is like,
- 1:36:14I told you to put it, put an end to him or whatever.
- 1:36:18And then he's like Tago, Tago, come here, and he gives him
- 1:36:21the bomb and he's like, we're gonna blow up the damn which is such
- 1:36:25a good idea. It's such a good way of being like, well whatever,
- 1:36:28seeing that, Bob, Yeah, it shows that like Simon Grooms kind
- 1:36:31of flying by the seat of his pants as well. I love a little
- 1:36:34bit improvising. Yeah, totally, Like like Bruce, dude, he's just
- 1:36:39really the plan was so good that everything, you know, there's a lot
- 1:36:43of variation room in the plan. Oh totally. Yeah. And then they
- 1:36:46find the bald Danny mulroon uh finds out that the fridge has the bomb in
- 1:36:54it. Oh yeah, cut the hinges off. Oh yeah, it's a
- 1:37:00lot of like good lines. It's like he sees that the door is not
- 1:37:03rigged. He's very much allowed to be an expert in this movie. Yeah,
- 1:37:06totally. Everybody feels like they're like what. What was interesting about the
- 1:37:12last one is that the way they made Bruce willis competent is by making everybody
- 1:37:18else less competent or evil, whereas in this one, everybody's competent and everybody's
- 1:37:27helping out and they're all working together to solve like a massive problem. Oh
- 1:37:30man, and then the damn breaks and Bruce fucking does that giant spin around
- 1:37:35in the truck. So it's so awesome where he and he sees the like
- 1:37:41careening oh cgi water, the balloon physics water and then like a drawn Bruce
- 1:37:48dude, I loved that drawn the fact like it's kind of like weirdly faded,
- 1:37:55but it looks so good. It looks cool. Yeah totally, But
- 1:37:58I first they still did things like this, But how did this? How
- 1:38:00did they do that? It's split, is it? No, it's like
- 1:38:05layers of different things. I don't know. I wouldn't know. Jeffer Kayes
- 1:38:10could talk about it. It's a really cool look. It is very like
- 1:38:15he climbs up and then it grabs the great Oh yeah, totally and gets
- 1:38:19shot out and Zoo sees him as he's driving by, and then they get
- 1:38:26together again, totally by habitstance. But I was like, I don't care,
- 1:38:29it's awesome, didn't Yeah, it's so magical at this point, it's
- 1:38:33all magic. Oh it's magic man the interview, never bo stuff. So
- 1:38:47it's magic, you know, you know, well it's not bar okay.
- 1:39:01So they they get picked up with each other. The kids are getting corralled
- 1:39:08to either we're gonna leave or we're gonna find out what this code for this
- 1:39:13bomb is. They're waiting to get the code from McClean, yeah, but
- 1:39:17he's not getting back to them, and they decide they're going to run.
- 1:39:23And the Denny Malroun who's fixing the bomb, decides he's going to stay with
- 1:39:27the bomb, which is sick. It's a good wants to sacrifice. He
- 1:39:30wants to sacrifice himself. He wants to like figure out how to you know,
- 1:39:35uh, disarm the bomb in the best way. McLean and Zeus are
- 1:39:44all they're they're getting shot at as they're driving, uh, and they get
- 1:39:50the truck that's what some flugaugas and they kill him. Uh, and then
- 1:39:56they kill the flags. And I love this scene because Samuel l is not
- 1:40:01as dead eyed as John McClane at this point where he's like, go check
- 1:40:04the glove compartment and he sees the dead body and he's like, I don't
- 1:40:08I'm not going to do that. And then he figures out what the quarters
- 1:40:12are that they have. All of them have quarters. They all have like
- 1:40:15a little bundle. Yeah, and it's to pay the toll on the bridge.
- 1:40:17That's how they figure out how to get where to get to the bridge.
- 1:40:21The bridge is out uh. And then Samuel they finally get to the
- 1:40:27bridge where like the all the containers have been taken uh and oh man he
- 1:40:33sees Samuel all is like, should be jump and it's like no, that's
- 1:40:40a terrible idea. So they rag a police thing. Well yeah. From
- 1:40:44from there they try the tooth with this like uh, like the truck has
- 1:40:48the hook on. It has a hooky thing and they like lower this like
- 1:40:54metal. Uh. It's kind of like a I don't know what it's.
- 1:40:58It's oh, it's four pulling people out of dishes and stuf. Yeah.
- 1:41:00Yeah, but like they lower it and they happens to hook onto the boat
- 1:41:05and then they like climb onto it. But it's like pulling the rope out.
- 1:41:11Yeah, it's pulling the rope out and the truck out, and then
- 1:41:15it like rips the truck out and it starts falling. They go and it's
- 1:41:19it slices one of the guys. Oh man, the metal rope slices one
- 1:41:24of the guy and they kind of mentioned they're like, oh no, someone
- 1:41:27could get sliced totally. And then they fall and I'm glad you convinced me
- 1:41:31not to jomp. Yeah, was he being sarcastic. It's still better than
- 1:41:35if they had he he didn't meant it. Yeah, he meant it.
- 1:41:39He was like, I'm glad you convinced me not to jump man. Samuel
- 1:41:44Jackson. How many movies did we mention? How many movies they've been in
- 1:41:47together? How many? Like five? Five? Yeah, they were in
- 1:41:54this pulp fiction Unbreakable and the sequel tone Breakable, Glass, Glass or Glass.
- 1:42:02You know. I think that it's really cool that we're gonna basically that
- 1:42:09we've done basically a season mini din a mini dive of Samuel Jackson, who's
- 1:42:15an amazing actor, amazing good in everything tends always but well, we'll get
- 1:42:21to ratings of Samuel El's for sure. And then Tar Targo get sees sees
- 1:42:30what's it called that the gold isn't in the tankers, that he swapped them
- 1:42:36out somehow. Okay, so this is the line that I wanted to play.
- 1:42:41I I recorded an impression of Bruce that I did four k's. It's
- 1:42:45not very good, but I just wanted to play you this line because Bruce
- 1:42:48says this the only thing it's yeah, go very good girl, Yeah it
- 1:43:00is. It was uh. And then Samuel All is given a gun and
- 1:43:08he doesn't know how to use it, so Bruce like hawks it for him,
- 1:43:12and then they have a moment of like, you think I know how
- 1:43:15to use a gun because I'm black, and it's like and and Bruce is
- 1:43:18kind of like hurt that he thinks that he assumed this, and then he
- 1:43:24like actually doesn't tell him how to use the gun. No, he doesn't,
- 1:43:28which is which ends up him, Yeah, it could hurt his campaign.
- 1:43:36He gets up, tells people to freeze uh and wh where Oh,
- 1:43:44sorry, they're on a Jackson. Samuel Jackson goes to the uh. What
- 1:43:49is the head of a boat called like the bridge, the bridge, the
- 1:43:56uh? And he aims the gun and he's like, I don't fucking move
- 1:44:00Simon, Simon, yeah. And he's like, oh the Samaritan, mister
- 1:44:04policeman. Yeah, exactly, yeah, call in the code. Blow blow
- 1:44:12your ass off. And then he can't click the gun because the safety is
- 1:44:16on and he's so casually eating an egg and he shoots him in the leg.
- 1:44:21He takes the gun from him and he's like, you can't use it
- 1:44:25without the same Yeah. And this is where Floppy Bruce comes in with crazy
- 1:44:30eyes. He's constantly like, loloppy arm Bruce with crazy dude. But I'm
- 1:44:35really glad that you made the parallel with Samuel Old Jackson's crazy eyes. Yeah.
- 1:44:43He does a lot of like wide and like expressing things with his eyes
- 1:44:48so beautifully emphasizing things like lines. You know. Yeah, it's great,
- 1:44:56yeah, amazing, amazing stuff. All the kids start running because we don't
- 1:44:59get the code in time. Uh, and Targo gets his code an obscure
- 1:45:05foreign language also at great Handial Jackson also another movie that Bruce Willis was in,
- 1:45:12So that's five whoa Loaded Weapons, Loaded Weapons we should talk about on
- 1:45:17Boner show. Dude, I would love to do. We get to talk
- 1:45:25about Charlie Sheen to pick off the fucking phone. I mean, Charlie the
- 1:45:29fucking phone. Yeah, he's in that too. There's so many cameos.
- 1:45:35Bruce is in it, yeah rated x oh no no not in that.
- 1:45:40No. No, Charlie Sheen is in loaded weapon. That's what I meant,
- 1:45:44yeah, which is obvious. Yeah. Anyway, Targo fucking is throwing
- 1:45:50Bruce around like like, uh, like a rag doll. It's crazy,
- 1:45:55it's so weird. It looks so ballooned physiness. That's so balloon phys but
- 1:46:00it's real. It's also real balloon physics. Yeah. And then he stabs
- 1:46:06Targo in the leg. Uh and it's actually like a thing that that's like
- 1:46:13hooked onto another thing and he pulls the trigger and it like slams him away.
- 1:46:17But all the kids run out and as uh, Samuel L's nephews are
- 1:46:26still in there. Uh, and fucking Graham Green runs in as Targo is
- 1:46:31getting beaten by Bruce, and he's like, yeah, did you ever watch
- 1:46:34Adam's family? There's a motherfucker on their name, Lurch. Yeah, totally
- 1:46:41and he is very lurchy. Bruce is so good, yeah, so good
- 1:46:45at this movie. He is. Graham Green goes to save the kids.
- 1:46:49He's got the keys, and then the abort code goes off and it's actually
- 1:46:55just pa syrup. It's pancakes syrup for syrup sorrup sirrup. Yeah, that's
- 1:47:03how they say it an upstate York. They say Syracuse and syrup syrup,
- 1:47:09not Syracuse syracus. Yeah. Yeah, Graham Green gets his fucking hero moment
- 1:47:15and they run to the to the roof because they think they could jump across,
- 1:47:18but they can't. Man, I always found the moment when the woman
- 1:47:23hugs the children to be kind of like a weird, like a nice but
- 1:47:28weird moment because she's just like she doesn't know them, like, but she
- 1:47:31hugs them with so much love and care. Well, I think she's gonna
- 1:47:34die. It's like she's like holding like onto life because they like that the
- 1:47:40bomb is going to explain. Yeah exactly, yeah, I know, I
- 1:47:43just I and I got that. I got that for sure, but it
- 1:47:45was also like interesting choice, interesting choice, agreed, agreed. Oh man,
- 1:47:53and then he's like there was no bomb, was there. I'm a
- 1:47:57soldier, not a monster. The real bomb is on this ship where you
- 1:48:02are, and I'm gonna kill you. Uh yeah, not a monster,
- 1:48:09yeah for sure, But it's okay to kill kill an adult guy. Yeah
- 1:48:14of course. Oh god, I love this country. You know your brother
- 1:48:18was an asshole. It was he was, you know, he really was.
- 1:48:25It was. Yeah you didn't even like your brother. You got his
- 1:48:28number? Yeah, ah man, And I love when they pick him up
- 1:48:32and they're like careful, careful, They're like being treating him nicely. But
- 1:48:38yeah, it's treating McLane when he because his arm is all bendy, so
- 1:48:44they like pick him up and he's like careful, and then they leave the
- 1:48:48radio on with the recorded message. So many of these things would have to
- 1:48:51go so right for this to like happen. Yeah, it's an insane plan.
- 1:49:00So they tie him up on the bombs themselves, and I love this
- 1:49:03because it's them figuring out how to how to like escape from this situation.
- 1:49:13And Sam, well, I was like, I didn't even know your brother,
- 1:49:17which is hilarious. Yeah, exactly, called this collateral damage. No
- 1:49:25no code, no riddles, no tricks. And then he goes, hey,
- 1:49:29do you have an aspirin and a bad headache all day. And then
- 1:49:31he gives him, Yeah, he gives him one more aspirin. Uh,
- 1:49:35keep the bottle, and then he starts laughing or whatever, and then he
- 1:49:40has, oh man, Targo. They go up and they see Targo and
- 1:49:45he's like, he tricked us. He doesn't actually have the gold, and
- 1:49:49then the severe woman fucking shoots him so many times while lovingly looking at Simon,
- 1:49:57and Simon also lovingly looks back. Yeah, it's real tender murder.
- 1:50:05Yeah, totally, totally. And Samuel All is so mad and he's like,
- 1:50:12you're a locksmith, right, and he gives him a little pin,
- 1:50:16and obviously he takes it as a racial thing again because he's like, what
- 1:50:20do you think I pick locks because I'm black? Maybe you're right, maybe
- 1:50:27this isn't a wig. It feels like a wig. I think it is
- 1:50:30a wig. I don't think. So it's pretty thin, like it's pretty
- 1:50:33realistically thin. I just think they're filling in the back. So it's not
- 1:50:36like true the ranger, you know, so the ring shape isn't happening,
- 1:50:41Yeah for sure, Because later on it's wet and it's kind of down and
- 1:50:45it's yeah, totally, totally, but yeah, then they get they talk
- 1:50:51about how mcclan didn't call his wife back out of pride and principle and they
- 1:50:58haven't spoken in a year, like outrageous, didn't check on your kids in
- 1:51:01a year because like we didn't want to call your wife back. What,
- 1:51:06Yeah, I mean he's a bad father, clearly, Clearly you threw your
- 1:51:12marriage away for a fucking stupid you want to pick up a phone call like,
- 1:51:16yeah, you've never met her, she's very stubborn. And then he
- 1:51:25gets unlocked. He unlocks him and he dropped, he drops the thing and
- 1:51:28then man, he figures out to use the bomb thing that he shows show
- 1:51:32the Danny Malroon showed him how how like the bomb blows up. But then
- 1:51:39Samuel is like just go and he's like, no, I can't. Just
- 1:51:43got your Yeah for sure, but I love this scene because Samuel also perfectly
- 1:51:48played getting burnt and scalded. But can it totally? I agree, But
- 1:51:54can I just mention one thing before you say that, Yeah, do you
- 1:51:58think do you think at the moment when uh, John mcclan's irishness is referred
- 1:52:06to, it's a way of kind of almost making him like you know,
- 1:52:12like it's like yeah, he's like like he's almost like black people were in
- 1:52:17this country, you know what I mean? Like I'll let Kay's handle that
- 1:52:20one. Uh no, do you know what I do you mean? In
- 1:52:25fact, I was gonna bring this up at the beginning to poke fun a
- 1:52:30little bit, because they do make they do obviously point it out this point.
- 1:52:35It's like it is like pointed. They're like this Irish cop. It's
- 1:52:40like whoa what, like why why refer to it? You know? Maybe
- 1:52:45I'm just reading into it too much speaking of Irish cop him being like I
- 1:52:50lost I lost him, and and the fact that that Samuel All was like,
- 1:52:58oh man, like I gotta like, you didn't lose you. You
- 1:53:02just give him a quarter or let him call his wife. And he goes
- 1:53:05to try and call his wife and she answers the phone, but he realizes
- 1:53:12because of the aspirin that he took that what's his name was actually still where
- 1:53:18was he? What was the aspirin thing? Again? He was still stealing
- 1:53:23the gold. I don't know, it said something I don't know right this
- 1:53:30this is what it says. I don't know. I never understood what I
- 1:53:33understood, Yeah, what was it? Anyway, he figures out that they're
- 1:53:39all the Simon is celebrating, spraying alcohol on everybody, opening champagne, and
- 1:53:46then he goes to have sex with his severe lady and it's awesome because it's
- 1:53:51so randomly passionate. It's very passionate. Well, they've just pulled off like
- 1:53:57a major. It's like they're giving each other eyes throughout. Yeah, it's
- 1:54:01very it's there's a lot of direct eye contact. And then they're flying to
- 1:54:06Nova Scotia of course, of course. But then John mcclin flies in with
- 1:54:13his helicopter friends with Samuel l two. It's just like putting this guy in
- 1:54:16danger again. Uh, and then they have like a helicopter fight mm hmm.
- 1:54:29Yeah, and then John McClean shoots. Uh, it's always John McTiernan
- 1:54:33is like doing movies where he's at the Canadian border for something. Yeah,
- 1:54:40totally, that's a it's a very strange choice. But yeah. Then then
- 1:54:47he shoots out a power line and it gets caught in the helicopter and then
- 1:54:53he's like, who cares let him cook. They're both both callous, they
- 1:54:58both don't care. I mean, after an tire day of this, after
- 1:55:00a tire day of murdering, yeah, murdering people, of course. This
- 1:55:04is this is how this would be. Let him cook, It's like Jesus
- 1:55:10Christ. And then he finally calls his wife. Yeah, and he saves
- 1:55:15his man. Yeah. Well we'll see him part four, dude. I
- 1:55:18mean, in part four we get the daughter is poor, but my daughter
- 1:55:24is important in part four four, sure, and then my son is important
- 1:55:27in part five. But okay, so is this where this movie ends?
- 1:55:30This is where this movie ends. It is long. It is long,
- 1:55:33and so it's tough to describe. Sometimes it was it was a little hard.
- 1:55:39It's convoluted because there's no point where there's no action. Like it's like,
- 1:55:44yeah, it's very no boring parts. Yeah, there's very no boring
- 1:55:46parts in this movie. Well, the boring parts are still actionally, right,
- 1:55:50yeah, exactly. So I mean, what would you rate this movie,
- 1:55:56dude? What would I rate? I'm gonna I'm gonna say right now,
- 1:56:00right now, ten out of ten Samuel L. Jackson's for both this
- 1:56:04movie and pulp fiction. And I'm going to say that it's ten out of
- 1:56:10ten. Bruces. This is this is We've got eyes Bruce. We've got
- 1:56:14my wife Bruce. We've got attitude Bruce. We've got quips Bruce. We've
- 1:56:18got body Bruce. We've got dirty shirt Bruce. We've got We've got like
- 1:56:23so many Pantheon bruces. There's so many, Like there's like such I acting.
- 1:56:27It's very John McCain. It's more John McClain than than John McCain.
- 1:56:31Yeah, and like he's he's more of a war hero that John McCain is.
- 1:56:38Yeah. Absolutely, And now what would you give it as a movie.
- 1:56:42As a movie, I'd give it nine nine nine out of ten.
- 1:56:45I was gonna say nine point five, but maybe I would even give it
- 1:56:48a tenant. I'd give it a ten. It's a good movie. That's
- 1:56:53a ten out of ten. It's at it's such a good movie. D
- 1:56:56It's such a time, much, so much fun watching it. I watched
- 1:56:59this movie a couple of month. I've recently watched it. I was so
- 1:57:01excited to watch it. I was like, oh to part three, just
- 1:57:04like, oh my god, Yeah, dude, And I would agree with
- 1:57:10the bruces. It's just it's it's it's kind of obvious how many bruces I
- 1:57:16would give. I agree with you entirely. In fact, it's so obvious
- 1:57:19that I would will shift focus to Samuel L. Jackson's because as much as
- 1:57:28we talked about him and his performance and the multitude of movies that we've seen
- 1:57:33him in, he shows up so nicely for this movie, and as much
- 1:57:44as the character is really well written, is very well written, but he
- 1:57:50feels like the only person could ever have played this without making it corny or
- 1:57:58like too much of one thing, too sad, too funny, too serious.
- 1:58:04It was the perfect it's funny you mentioned like Bruce Black people like Bruce,
- 1:58:12White people like Samuel L. Jackson. Yeah, totally, yeah,
- 1:58:15totally because you can talk. And it's like like also just to piggyback off
- 1:58:20of what you're saying, like to have him sort of be so critical to
- 1:58:26your face, like this is a movie for white people. It's not only
- 1:58:29for white people, but like you know what I mean, like very white.
- 1:58:30It's a very white movie, and like it's you know, but it
- 1:58:33does have it does have black representation throughout the movies for sure, but like
- 1:58:39this movie like decidedly is saying something about race. And that's what's that's what
- 1:58:44was really interesting because we could actually bring it up and talk about it.
- 1:58:47Yeah, because we know that the movie is saying something, oh totally that
- 1:58:50this is the best kind of uh movie that balances out it's it's choices very
- 1:58:59well. We'll when to make things work with the dialogue, to put the
- 1:59:06characters in a situation where they can bring this up in a very natural way.
- 1:59:12It doesn't hold any punches with man like saying it's saying the N word
- 1:59:19with hard r is so like it because shocks you. It does shock me,
- 1:59:27Kramer, it does, but man like like to have something play out
- 1:59:33in this kind of way, it's so fucking awesome. This movie is so
- 1:59:36fucking good. And also like when when I when I watched this as a
- 1:59:40kid, when you were talking about it earlier, talking about like that scene,
- 1:59:45it doesn't and and like him as a performer and also him as as
- 1:59:49the kind of character that he is. It's like, oh, yeah,
- 1:59:51like this is something that weirdly defined a lot of my choices as like a
- 1:59:59person. Now when when when it comes to like informed a lot of my
- 2:00:02my ideas about race when I was a kid, you know, absolutely so
- 2:00:06weird to say absolutely well, it's it's hard for it not to write like
- 2:00:11what other like reference point do you have? You see real life? You
- 2:00:15meet people in real life, you're you know, like we grew we had
- 2:00:18the you know, like we grew up in Toronto, so like we grew
- 2:00:20up around like a bunch of different kind of looking people. But like I
- 2:00:26mean, we grew up at a Tobaco, which is like ended up with
- 2:00:28being like weirdly like we the younger we were, the more diverse that area
- 2:00:34was, Like I remember going and it ended up wide did get wider?
- 2:00:39Yeah, but yeah, amazing movie. It's such a like it's it's it's
- 2:00:46a rare movie because we get to talk about so many different things about it.
- 2:00:51Dude, this next run I love movies that we have is pretty bonkers.
- 2:00:56Yeah, I can't wait. Should I read the list? You're on
- 2:00:59a list? How didn't you know? Let's get pumps. Let's get pumped
- 2:01:04for a second. You got a pen hang Er, Okay, Twelve Monkeys,
- 2:01:12Last Man Standing, Beavis and Butthead Do America, the Fifth Element,
- 2:01:18the Jackal Recruity Rising. Yeah, I mean you know what, those reals
- 2:01:23are terrible, but I can't wait to watch them again. Yeah me tooting
- 2:01:28man there. Yeah, there's a lot of good stuff. I can't believe
- 2:01:30how many movies there are still until we get to do I feel you.
- 2:01:34I'm right here. Don't look at me like that. I'm toned, fucking
- 2:01:38truth. Are you looking at the list? No, I am looking at
- 2:01:42some bullshit. Are you excited, dude, I'm so excited. I'm what
- 2:01:45are you most excited for upcoming? I mean I think I gotta say twelve
- 2:01:50Monkeys. Yeah, yeah, I'm like, it's one of those movies I
- 2:01:55kind of started interrupted. It's one of those movies I kind of like dread
- 2:01:57doing in a way like I kind of dread today because it's like it feels
- 2:02:00like there's a lot of steaks. We have to get to everything, we
- 2:02:03have to mention all the things, all the funny pantheon parts. So I'm
- 2:02:09of mixed minds. Usually, like having a movie like North, where it's
- 2:02:12like low steaks, you get to just like talk about it, excite You're
- 2:02:14already saw the North. You know. It really sucks is that I was
- 2:02:17expecting to have my place done so that I could watch four K twelve monkeys
- 2:02:25on my big screen, but now I have to watch it on my I
- 2:02:28might watch it on on Where I'm Staying now because that's an okay TV,
- 2:02:31but like I was hoping I might watch it again just to do should we
- 2:02:38talk should we talk about? We should talk about? Yeah, Kas even
- 2:02:43like made like a little boner show list of like other movies that we could
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