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Mac & Bone Show - Jones Angell Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:06
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, Tar Heel football is back in action.
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  Speaker 3: The lovable Granny Pat just gave a shout out to
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  Speaker 3: the fact that Ben Johnson is a Tar Heel grad.
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  Speaker 2: We will not be rooting for him on Sunday, but
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  Speaker 2: we will be rooting.
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  Speaker 3: For, well, not all of us, but I will be,
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  Speaker 3: Finney will be rooting for the Heels on Saturday against
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  Speaker 3: East Tennessee State.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, Bo. What happened? As Will Healy said.
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  Speaker 3: Brings his East Tennessee State squad in to Chapel Hill.
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  Speaker 3: And we got to talk about it with a man
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  Speaker 3: who will call the game. He is a regular 9
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  Speaker 3: o'clock Thursday man with us. He is Jones Angel, the
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  Speaker 3: voice of the Tar Heels. Hey, Jones, what's going on, man?
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  Speaker 3: How you doing this week?
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  Speaker 1: Doing great. Great to be back with you guys. And boy,
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  Speaker 1: I did a lot of stuff in there. Ben Johnson,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it amazing? Ben Johnson's elevation through the coaching ranks.
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  Speaker 2: And I know that, that, yeah, he's.
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  Speaker 1: On the wrong sideline here for this first week, but man,
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  Speaker 1: what a impressive young guy he is. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He was a walk.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, he was a walk on at Carolina and,
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  Speaker 1: you know, didn't play as you would expect as a
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  Speaker 1: walk on quarterback, but just somebody who's obviously been around
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  Speaker 1: the game, his whole life, really smart around the game. And,
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  Speaker 1: Great to see him having success. I felt bad for
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  Speaker 1: Drake last night. Tough night for him. I think there
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  Speaker 1: are a couple of those throws that he would have
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  Speaker 1: loved to have had back, obviously, but expect him to
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  Speaker 1: bounce back and have a terrific year. But looking forward
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  Speaker 1: to being in Keenum this weekend, guys. It's good to
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  Speaker 1: be back in Chapel Hill. It's the 100th year in
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  Speaker 1: Keenum Stadium. It's the 135th year for Carolina football, but
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  Speaker 1: 100th year in Kenan Stadium, so there'll be all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of kind of fun things around that as they move
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  Speaker 1: through the season. And looking forward to hopefully playing some
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  Speaker 1: good football on Saturday as well. Nice.
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  Speaker 4: Good football is what the Heels did against TCU, especially defensively. Jones,
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  Speaker 4: from what you saw a couple weeks ago in Ireland,
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  Speaker 4: what do you think is most sustainable from that effort
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  Speaker 4: going forward?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that front– well, I– The most sustainable thing
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  Speaker 1: is the effort. I think that's what Carolina really liked
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  Speaker 1: the most was just the consistent effort throughout the game.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you're going to be in the wrong place, even
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  Speaker 1: though you practice all the time. Sometimes the other team
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  Speaker 1: is going to just have something schemed up. That's really good.
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  Speaker 1: That happens. It's football. But what I think Carolina really
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  Speaker 1: liked was just the consistent effort that was shown out
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  Speaker 1: on the field, because sometimes you can make up for
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  Speaker 1: being in the wrong spot by just busting your tail.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes you can still, you know, keep a play
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  Speaker 1: from going. It goes four yards instead of 40 yards.
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  Speaker 1: Because even though it was schemed well, you went really
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  Speaker 1: hard and you were able to make something happen. And
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  Speaker 1: so I think Carolina was really pleased with that run
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  Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. But I think defensively
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  Speaker 1: in particular, as far as the actual quality of play,
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  Speaker 1: I think they felt really good about how that front
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  Speaker 1: seven executed. They were able to get in the backfield.
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  Speaker 1: Some got better against the run as that game went on.
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  Speaker 1: which was good. And I say all that, but also
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  Speaker 1: TCU really wasn't able to go down the field. The
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  Speaker 1: secondary did a nice job. So I think Carolina felt
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  Speaker 1: pretty good, really, about that whole side of the ball.
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  Speaker 1: And look, Tar Heels should be favored against East Tennessee State.
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  Speaker 1: We understand that. But the Buccaneers will stress the Tar
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  Speaker 1: Heels defense. They've got some good players on that side
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  Speaker 1: of the ball. They can move the football. Mason Mims
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  Speaker 1: is their quarterback. He's a transfer from Louisville. He's a
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  Speaker 1: good player. And so they've got some talent, especially on
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  Speaker 1: the offensive side. Again, Carolina's got all the advantages that
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  Speaker 1: you expect. But I do think Carolina's defense will be
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  Speaker 1: pushed some this week because East Tennessee State's got a
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  Speaker 1: quality offense.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking with Jones Angel, voice of the Heels. He
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  Speaker 3: does this with us at 9 o'clock every Thursday on
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  Speaker 3: the Mac and Bone Show. Heels get back to it
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  Speaker 3: after the bye week, after the week zero win. Jones,
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  Speaker 3: I'm definitely not going to turn this into our version.
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  Speaker 3: of the Bill Belichick press conference, right? There's no need
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  Speaker 3: for me to ask you questions. I know you work
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  Speaker 3: for the athletic department. Bill can't answer the question. I
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  Speaker 3: know you're not going to answer any specific questions. I
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  Speaker 3: would just ask this one. The thing I hate about
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  Speaker 3: the timing of this off the field stuff now is
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  Speaker 3: is that they had such good mojo, Jones, that you
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  Speaker 3: talked about after the TCU win. Do you get the feeling, like,
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  Speaker 3: do you worry at all, being a Tar Heel guy,
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  Speaker 3: that this off-the-field stuff affects them on the field moving forward?
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  Speaker 3: Or do you think that's just something like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: dudes like me on the radio talk about it? It
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  Speaker 3: ain't happening.
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  Speaker 1: Sure. You know, I do think, Mac, it's interesting that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think Carolina's kind of been, and some of it
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  Speaker 1: because of Carolina, has been under the microscope here for
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  Speaker 1: over a year on the football side. And some of
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  Speaker 1: that just comes with Bill Belichick. You're under the microscope.
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  Speaker 1: So I think the Tar Heels are kind of used
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  Speaker 1: to it. And quite honestly, I think it does not
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  Speaker 1: affect the players. Now, that's easier to say when you're
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  Speaker 1: winning games, right? If you lose three in a row
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  Speaker 1: or something... I think anything away from the field starts
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  Speaker 1: to get louder if you're not being successful. But I
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  Speaker 1: think if Carolina continues to play good football, continues to
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  Speaker 1: have success, continues to grow, then I think that the
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  Speaker 1: players are almost immune to that stuff because they're just
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  Speaker 1: college players. They're going to class. They're trying to get
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  Speaker 1: better on the field. They're trying to figure out what's
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  Speaker 1: going on with their girlfriend, just all the stuff that
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  Speaker 1: college guys are doing. And so I don't think that
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  Speaker 1: it is a major factor, any of the noise that
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  Speaker 1: is occurring in away from the field of play for
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  Speaker 1: the Tar Heels. And so that is the charge of
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  Speaker 1: the coaches to make sure that that continues, to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that the focus is what's happening on the field
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  Speaker 1: with those guys, because if it does, I think they
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  Speaker 1: have an opportunity to really continue to have a strong
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  Speaker 1: season and continue to improve, which if you're winning games,
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  Speaker 1: number one rule in athletics, guys, winning is better than losing.
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  Speaker 1: And so if you win games, a lot of that
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  Speaker 1: other stuff really disappears.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 4: Jones, we often say just the term, the offenses are
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  Speaker 4: always better when Bobby Petrino's involved. But from what you see,
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  Speaker 4: why is that? What does Bobby Petrino do with these
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  Speaker 4: offenses that seems to elevate them all as soon as
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  Speaker 4: he arrives?
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  Speaker 1: He's just really smart at it. He's just a really
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  Speaker 1: intelligent football mind, I think is number one. And what
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  Speaker 1: I've been really impressed with Coach Petrino is that he
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  Speaker 1: isn't It isn't saying this is how I run my
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  Speaker 1: offense and you guys are going to do what I do.
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  Speaker 1: It's more he kind of looked, he said, okay, what
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  Speaker 1: does this team have? What are the strengths of this group?
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  Speaker 1: What are the areas that we can be successful with
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  Speaker 1: the personnel that we have at the point of their development?
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  Speaker 1: right now. And then he tailors what they do to that.
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  Speaker 1: And I know that's, I think he's, Oh, that's obvious.
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  Speaker 1: Of course you would do that, but that's not the
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  Speaker 1: case all the time. And so for a coach to,
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  Speaker 1: to really understand his personnel to have as many years,
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  Speaker 1: of course, of experience as coach Petrino has, he's seen
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  Speaker 1: all the defenses. He's seen all the different looks, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's seen all the down and distances, you know, that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff comes with experience and, But the fact
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  Speaker 1: that he is so intelligent in period, but in football
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  Speaker 1: discussion as well, and he is so malleable and flexible
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  Speaker 1: to be able to change with his personnel. I think
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  Speaker 1: is a big part of it. And we talked about
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  Speaker 1: this last week, guys, like Carolina, the offensive numbers didn't
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  Speaker 1: blow you away against TCU, but it was pretty obvious
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  Speaker 1: watching that this was a better offense than they were
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  Speaker 1: a year ago. They've got to get better and they've
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  Speaker 1: got to run the ball better and they need some
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  Speaker 1: more wide receivers to step up and all this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But you could just see that it was better. And
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  Speaker 1: so I would expect that to continue to grow and grow.
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  Speaker 1: As this year goes on, they've got some young, exciting
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  Speaker 1: guys that I'll be interested to see if they can
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  Speaker 1: get some more guys in the game. This week, they
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  Speaker 1: just didn't play a lot of skill guys, quite honestly,
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  Speaker 1: against TCU. I think only four wide receivers took a snap.
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  Speaker 1: And so I'll be interested to see if you see
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  Speaker 1: some younger guys, if Carolina can build a lead. that
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  Speaker 1: you can start seeing maybe some of those guys who
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  Speaker 1: can make an impact with Coach Petrino as this year
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  Speaker 1: moves along.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, C.J.
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  Speaker 3: Sadler's one that I just want to see more of, man.
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  Speaker 3: He's that type of guy you can see grow as
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  Speaker 3: the season goes on. Last thing I'll ask you is,
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  Speaker 3: how do you feel right now about Billy Edwards? Again,
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  Speaker 3: what you just said about the offense, right? They're not
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  Speaker 3: these unbelievable guys. out of this world numbers but it
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  Speaker 3: you could tell it looked better and like Billy Edwards
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  Speaker 3: just felt like a like a better fit not that
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  Speaker 3: G like Gio seems like a good fit for what's
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  Speaker 3: going on away but Billy seems to fit what Petrino's
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  Speaker 3: doing and I bet Petrino makes him a better player
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  Speaker 3: like what did you think of of him and I
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  Speaker 3: know you've seen him in practice too what do you
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  Speaker 3: think sure I think what.
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  Speaker 1: Has stood out to me the most and talking to
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  Speaker 1: Billy Edwards Jr some and obviously watching him play is
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  Speaker 1: just to his maturity level. And, you know, he's 23
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  Speaker 1: years old, which is older for a college guy, although
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  Speaker 1: I guess in today's world it's not necessarily that much
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  Speaker 1: older than some of these guys. But, you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: seen a lot of football in college terms. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he was a full-time starter at Maryland one year. He
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  Speaker 1: came in for backup duties a lot for Maryland during
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  Speaker 1: his career until that last season where he was the
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  Speaker 1: full-time guy. Vinny was going to be the starter at Wisconsin,
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  Speaker 1: as we know, played the first game, got hurt, couldn't
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  Speaker 1: play anymore. But so he's seen a lot of football.
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  Speaker 1: And so both on and off the field, he's just
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  Speaker 1: a really mature guy. Yeah, his dad was a football fan. coach.
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  Speaker 1: He was around football growing up. His brother played football,
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  Speaker 1: was a walk-on at Alabama. I mean, he's just been
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  Speaker 1: around the game. And you can tell. That's what stands
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  Speaker 1: out to me. You can tell that he's just comfortable
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  Speaker 1: within the game. And so kind of talking, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: about Bobby Petrino, Doesn't mean it's always going to happen, right?
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  Speaker 1: But there's not going to be a blitz that Billy
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  Speaker 1: Edwards hadn't seen before or down a distance that makes
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  Speaker 1: him nervous. He's seen all of this. That, again, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: ensure success, but I do think it provides Carolina something
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  Speaker 1: it needs on the field, and that is a calming
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  Speaker 1: presence because you do have some young guys or some
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  Speaker 1: new players that are going to play roles as this
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  Speaker 1: year moves on. And so to have a veteran guy
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  Speaker 1: who can be a steady player there, I think is important. Now,
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  Speaker 1: as we talked about last week, Carolina's got some other
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  Speaker 1: good quarterbacks and it wouldn't blow my mind to see
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  Speaker 1: those guys at some point through this year, not because
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: Billy Edwards done something wrong. but because these other guys
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: are talented. And so that will be a position to
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  Speaker 1: continue to keep an eye on just because I do
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  Speaker 1: think there may be specific times where something else is
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  Speaker 1: needed and we'll just see how it plays out. Billy
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  Speaker 1: Edwards has done a really, really nice job so far
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  Speaker 1: at that spot.
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  Speaker 2: All right, man. We'll see how it goes on Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: Noon kick in Keenan, the home opener against East Tennessee
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  Speaker 3: State for the Heels. Tar Heel Radio Network coverage, which
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: includes our sister station, WBT, begins with the pregame at 11.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Jones. We appreciate you, man.
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  Speaker 1: Always enjoy it, guys. Talk to you next week.