Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Digital Health + Health IT / Kerri Webster, Vice President and Chief Analytics Officer at Children's Hospital Colorado
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- 0:00Hello, everyone. This is Scott King with the
- 0:01Becker's Healthcare podcast. Thrilled today to be joined
- 0:03by Carrie Webster, vice president and chief analytics
- 0:06officer over at Children's Hospital
- 0:08Colorado. Carrie, how are you doing today?
- 0:11Doing well, Scott. How are you? I'm great.
- 0:13You know, weather's not too bad in Chicago.
- 0:15We missed the northern lights as we're talking
- 0:17about before, but, you know, maybe next time
- 0:19it comes around, we'll we'll try to make
- 0:21it.
- 0:23A lot
- 0:24of great topics here to to get to
- 0:26in health care. A lot going on, as
- 0:28always. But before we kinda dive into the
- 0:30questions, just wondering if you could please tell
- 0:32us a little bit about your your background.
- 0:34Sure.
- 0:36As you know, I'm a nurse by training,
- 0:37and my professional journey bridges
- 0:40anything from health care innovation, technology leadership. But,
- 0:44truly, I have a passion for empowering
- 0:46organizations
- 0:47to thrive in a digital era, helping our
- 0:50patients. I think that's why we're here.
- 0:53So I think the intersection between health care
- 0:55and technology
- 0:56helped me shape my perspective on the potential
- 0:59and
- 1:00responsibility that we have in Petersen hospitals.
- 1:03Thanks so much for that background info. And
- 1:05the first thing I I wanted to ask
- 1:07you, Carrie, is what opportunities and headwinds in
- 1:10health care do you kinda have your eye
- 1:12on right now?
- 1:13Well, I imagine that you're never gonna have
- 1:15a conversation in the next couple of years
- 1:17without hearing the word AI.
- 1:20I'm I'm going to say that I do
- 1:22think AI represents one of the most exciting
- 1:24opportunities in our industry,
- 1:26and that's anywhere from predictive analytics,
- 1:30personalizing
- 1:31care,
- 1:32any, you know, large language models, soup to
- 1:34nuts. I I like to joke and say
- 1:36I've been using AI since spell check back
- 1:39in the day.
- 1:40But regardless, I do think that AI has
- 1:43the potential,
- 1:45to transform how we deliver value, which in
- 1:48turn means we're caring for our patients better.
- 1:52I do think these opportunities, we have to
- 1:54be very careful. We can't,
- 1:57use technology in search of a problem. We
- 1:59have to really think about what our problems
- 2:01are and how technology can can shape and
- 2:05change those. And I think that means that
- 2:08the challenges we're facing is we have to
- 2:10make sure that
- 2:11organizations
- 2:12as a whole
- 2:13and individuals
- 2:14are educated about how AI works,
- 2:17understanding
- 2:19where where it might be limited,
- 2:20and then help cultivate those critical thinking around
- 2:23the output.
- 2:25As an analytics leader, I think very critically
- 2:27about the quality of data
- 2:29that's feeding our, AI systems, and I think
- 2:32that's critical.
- 2:33And without our rigorous standards and governance,
- 2:36we might be,
- 2:38introducing some flood logic into our ecosystem.
- 2:41So I think these are some of the
- 2:43things that I think about,
- 2:44from education and collaboration and make sure that
- 2:47we're doing
- 2:49hypervigilance
- 2:50on, what we're producing with these tools.
- 2:53Absolutely.
- 2:54Carrie, you mentioned value. I just curious if
- 2:56you're
- 2:57finding ways to add growth and value to
- 3:00your org,
- 3:01maybe without AI, or or are you still
- 3:04using AI AI to do those things to
- 3:06help with with growth and value?
- 3:08I think a little bit of both.
- 3:11As I alluded to before, I think growth
- 3:13comes from
- 3:14responsible adoption of technologies. They just can't throw
- 3:18AI problems and expect it to everything to
- 3:21be solved.
- 3:22But I think if you foster a culture
- 3:25where critical thinking about any technology,
- 3:29it helps us, across the board. And when
- 3:31you think about adding value, I think about
- 3:33outcomes. I think about are we changing the
- 3:35lives of our patients. So one example where
- 3:38we're not using AI is we've impacted
- 3:41our CLABSI rate
- 3:43with the analytics support. So a partnership between
- 3:46clinical leaders and our analytics team has found
- 3:49a way to deliver real time insights at
- 3:51the fingertips of our clinicians that have helped
- 3:54drive our CLABSI rates down.
- 3:56You mentioned culture. What's a good way to
- 3:59make sure you're
- 4:00implementing the right culture right now with everything
- 4:02going on and all the advances in health
- 4:04care?
- 4:05Oh, that's a great question. I think
- 4:08thinking about
- 4:10the why
- 4:11helps keep the culture in this area of
- 4:14rapid change. In fact, I've spoken to my
- 4:16team about it. I I know people are
- 4:19fatigued by
- 4:20the changes that are coming up in every
- 4:22day,
- 4:23and
- 4:24keeping
- 4:26in touch with why you're here is paramount.
- 4:29And so
- 4:30I think I'm very deliberate about my culture.
- 4:33I make sure that
- 4:34we have, keep our why front and center.
- 4:37We understand that we're here for the kids,
- 4:39and we talk about,
- 4:42practicing ruthless self care. We talk about diversity.
- 4:45We talk about
- 4:47work life balance. And so I think those
- 4:49things are important.
- 4:50Yeah. I think those are all great things
- 4:52to focus on for that culture.
- 4:54Carrie, I also wanna ask you, what do
- 4:55you think is one risk or investment right
- 4:57now,
- 4:58worth making for your system?
- 5:01I don't know if this is a risk
- 5:03or not, but I think and it's not
- 5:05gonna be a very sexy answer. I think
- 5:06we need to start investing
- 5:09in the education,
- 5:12of the citizen data consumer, especially in this
- 5:15digital age.
- 5:16And that means,
- 5:18helping them understand
- 5:20what outputs are coming out, questioning everything,
- 5:23under helping them do prompt engineering as we
- 5:26talk about agentic AI and increment you know,
- 5:29investigating the data.
- 5:31So I think that is it's worthwhile. It
- 5:33might not cost a lot of money, but
- 5:34it is time and people are busy. So
- 5:36I think maybe a little risk because you're
- 5:38taking people away from their jobs, but I
- 5:40think it's worth the investment.
- 5:42No. I I think that's a good answer.
- 5:43With everything going on and how quickly things
- 5:45are moving, just to make sure people understand
- 5:48what they can do and and results.
- 5:50Carrie, where do you see the best opportunities
- 5:52for growth in the future?
- 5:54I think growth in the future relies on
- 5:58us fostering
- 5:59a we talked about culture, a culture of
- 6:01thoughtful engagement with technology. As I said before,
- 6:04clearly understanding what problems we have and how
- 6:07we can leverage that technology to our best
- 6:10advantage.
- 6:11I think,
- 6:12our organization
- 6:13will be able to adapt rapidly and deliver
- 6:16these services
- 6:17if we think about these things problem first,
- 6:20not technology first. And the
- 6:23the growth of technology
- 6:24is is always there. It is gonna keep
- 6:27growing and growing and growing. I think we
- 6:29really need to be problem centered and then
- 6:31adapting
- 6:32that technology
- 6:34to those problems versus the other way around.
- 6:37Hey, Carrie. The last thing I wanted to
- 6:38ask you, I I think, obviously, right now
- 6:40with with systems and and the industry
- 6:42in general and health care, leadership is so
- 6:45important. And there there's so much changing. There's
- 6:47so much at stake. Can you talk a
- 6:48little bit about your leadership journey and and
- 6:51how you evolved as a leader?
- 6:53Yes. Thank you. I, I'm not gonna tell
- 6:55you how long I've been in health care,
- 6:57but a very long time.
- 6:59And,
- 7:00I've learned from the best of the best.
- 7:02And and I think
- 7:04from anywhere from being a charge nurse in
- 7:06a night shift ICU
- 7:07to being a a clinical educator leader to
- 7:11a technology leader, I think authenticity is key.
- 7:15And,
- 7:16just letting people know what is,
- 7:20what's happening, why it's happening, what their roles
- 7:22are. I also believe in having fun. You
- 7:26have to love what you do, and you
- 7:27have to,
- 7:29take that love of what you do and
- 7:31combine that with your passion to make amazing
- 7:33outcomes.
- 7:35Well, Carrie, thanks so much for joining us
- 7:36on the podcast. It was a great conversation.
- 7:38I appreciate all your your expertise, and your
- 7:41insight, and I look forward to working with
- 7:42you again soon. Thanks, Scott. Great to talk
- 7:44to you.