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The Cathartic Nature Of Music With JON TOOGOOD · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Good.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Johnny Toogod. My day job was playing in the
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  Speaker 2: rock band she had. But I'm here to talk about
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  Speaker 2: my first yet of solo album. It's an album called
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  Speaker 2: Last the Lonely Gods Some.
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  Speaker 1: Of the Year. Yeah, it's a it's a it's a banger.
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  Speaker 1: I love this record.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if he looks like he went off into another
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  Speaker 3: world there for a moment made thinking about it.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about it because I mean, it's not
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  Speaker 1: it's heavy in the in what I'm singing about. I'm
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  Speaker 1: singing about heavy shit.
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  Speaker 2: I'm singing about like a fifty because I'm a fifty
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  Speaker 2: three year old. But who lost Who lost his mum
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  Speaker 2: during COVID when I was locked down in Melbourne and
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  Speaker 2: she died in Wellington, New Zealand. So I had to
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  Speaker 2: say goodbye on the phone, which I found really sad
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  Speaker 2: because I wanted to just be there with my mom,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like like most yeah, like.
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  Speaker 1: Most people, and couldn't. That was tough.
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  Speaker 2: And then a bit after that, I got stuck in
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand away for my wife and kids for three
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  Speaker 2: and a half months because there was an omicron wave,
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  Speaker 2: that outbreak that happened in the n Z while I
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  Speaker 2: was there on tour, so there was no flights going
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  Speaker 2: between the country, so I got stuck there.
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  Speaker 1: That was pretty traumatic, traumatic for my kids as well
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  Speaker 1: and my wife because they were in lockdown in Melbourne.
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  Speaker 1: She couldn't get any help, so she was losing her mind.
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  Speaker 1: I was losing my mind.
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  Speaker 2: And then we finally made a move back to New Zealand,
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  Speaker 2: and then I caught COVID and I caught COVID and
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  Speaker 2: the thing that happened to me was I've got preexisting tonight,
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  Speaker 2: so ringing in my ears, bro, which is just basically
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  Speaker 2: from a life of playing heavy music and sending too
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  Speaker 2: close to a China symbol, which is cool, and you
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  Speaker 2: know what, I've always been out to deal with it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll go and see a band and I'll be loud
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  Speaker 2: when I get home, but if I take it easy,
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  Speaker 2: the next day of fade into the background.
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  Speaker 1: But this was like two weeks after I caught COVID.
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  Speaker 2: I got woken up out of a dream with a
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  Speaker 2: car alarm going off my head. It was like I've
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  Speaker 2: been to see motor Head and stuck my head in
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  Speaker 2: the PA, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And it was like, what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't on that first night, didn't end up sleeping
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  Speaker 2: for thirty six hours, ended up in a and E
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  Speaker 2: at a hospital with the doctor's giving me like lazepam
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  Speaker 2: and Zoppo clone just to knock me out because and
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  Speaker 2: I was having because.
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  Speaker 1: It's such a distressing sound. It's like literally like a
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  Speaker 1: caraline going off in your head really loud, right, And
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  Speaker 1: I was like, man, and my ears and my business
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  Speaker 1: bro like, you know, I need my ears to work,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And so I was like having all blown
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  Speaker 1: panic attacks, going what the hell out of control of
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  Speaker 1: my body? Went on a big search, went to the
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  Speaker 1: top end of his throat specialist in Auckland. They were like, well,
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  Speaker 1: there's a data coming out of the US saying that
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  Speaker 1: if you had tonight before you caught COVID, you had
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  Speaker 1: a forty percent chance of it turning it up really loud.
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  Speaker 1: And we don't know because it's not enough data to
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  Speaker 1: tell you when it's going to come back down again.
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you after two and a half years
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  Speaker 1: of having it, it hasn't gone back down again.
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  Speaker 2: But what I did discover was a thing called cognitive
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  Speaker 2: behavioral therapy, which someone suggested at the University of Auckland.
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  Speaker 1: After that didn't work as well. And she was a
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  Speaker 1: woman that dealt with like ex military sort of post
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  Speaker 1: traumatic stress to sort of people, and she was basically.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, I got tonight's too. It's all coming from your brain, Johnny.
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  Speaker 2: It's not actually coming from your ears. What happens is
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  Speaker 2: COVID comes in. It suppresses your overall volume.
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  Speaker 1: Of your hearing. Now, if you've got preexisting top end.
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  Speaker 2: Down damage, which I have, that's turn that frequency up.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what happened to me. So that's where that
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  Speaker 2: tonight is coming from. It's actually my brain trying to
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  Speaker 2: protect me from primal bullshit. So I living in a
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  Speaker 2: suburban Melbourne, I'm not going to get eaten by line,
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  Speaker 2: but my brain doesn't know that. So the whole idea
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  Speaker 2: with cognitive behavioral therapy is that I've got to tell
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  Speaker 2: my brain there, there, it's okay, you can chill.
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  Speaker 1: And she said, the first thing we usually tell.
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  Speaker 2: People is you need to learn how to meditate, but
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately tonight is silence is the enemy, man, because if
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  Speaker 2: you're in a silent room, it becomes even louder because
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  Speaker 2: you start focusing on it. Right, So, okay, what is
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  Speaker 2: another form of mindfulness.
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  Speaker 1: Well, playing your guitar.
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  Speaker 2: So I started playing my guitar. And because of all
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  Speaker 2: the carnage, the personal carnage, losing my mum, my brother
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  Speaker 2: in law also died during COVID really aggressive terminal cancer,
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  Speaker 2: and all this shit had happened, I was like, I
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  Speaker 2: need music that's gentle and that can articulate what I
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  Speaker 2: needed to hear, music that said, they're there, Johnny, Life's
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  Speaker 2: still beautiful. I know you're sad, but it's okay, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like life's still worth living. And so I couldn't find
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  Speaker 2: that album. So I wrote, basically, I wrote an album
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  Speaker 2: for someone who'd been through what I've been through.
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  Speaker 1: And.
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  Speaker 2: I gave myself a real limitation right at the start.
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  Speaker 2: It's got to work with my voice and that instrument.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. You're not allowed to use any trickery.
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  Speaker 2: It's got to be honest, it's got to be truthful,
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, it's got to be comforting to a fifty three.
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  Speaker 1: Year old metal guy.
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  Speaker 2: And that was That was the record, that was the
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  Speaker 2: start of it, and I was never going to release it.
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  Speaker 2: Bro it was just purely music for me, purely music
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  Speaker 2: for me. And after about eight songs. I was like, man,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know this songs. These songs are good. So
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  Speaker 2: I played it to the record company, and the rec
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  Speaker 2: company with these songs good, do you want to release
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  Speaker 2: it like this? I was like, yeah, I could because
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  Speaker 2: it's the form that I did. It was like Bruce Springs,
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  Speaker 2: Nebraska Man, just vocals and acoustic guitar. And then I thought,
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  Speaker 2: now I want to work with the Australian producers Scott
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  Speaker 2: Horscroft because she hard to work with him on the
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  Speaker 2: Beautiful Machine record, and we never ended up using him
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  Speaker 2: because at that time I was a little bit afraid
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  Speaker 2: of how Poppy was. But I also went mental note
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  Speaker 2: to self that motherfucker's talented. He's the guy that wrote
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  Speaker 2: co wrote Straight Lines by Silver Chairman, which is one
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  Speaker 2: of my favorite Silver Chair songs. Right, so I knew
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  Speaker 2: new songs and I just wanted someone. He's the same
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  Speaker 2: age as me, fifty three. He's got a six year
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  Speaker 2: old and a nine year old, same as me. So
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  Speaker 2: when I played him the shit, he came back straight
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  Speaker 2: away and with these are the best lyrics I've heard
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  Speaker 2: for ages. Come over to my studio if you don't mind,
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  Speaker 2: I've got a young piano player, a young violin player
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  Speaker 2: and a young drummer that I like using, and I
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  Speaker 2: we'll just have a play and we did.
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  Speaker 1: We just had a plant. So he turned my songs
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  Speaker 1: from two D to three D.
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  Speaker 2: And that's that's what you hear on the last Lonely
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  Speaker 2: God's album. It's it's abausy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And did it like you say, you're dealing with all
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  Speaker 3: these issues at the time, Like, did it help write
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  Speaker 3: these songs? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, it was like cathartic as hell. Man, it
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  Speaker 1: was like it was like it helped. I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: thing is even from a teenager. Man, It's like.
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  Speaker 2: I always picked up my guitar as soon as I
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  Speaker 2: got home because I hated school. This is my way
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  Speaker 2: out of that and being a teenager sucks anyway, so
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  Speaker 2: this is my way of making sense of it.
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  Speaker 1: You know. It was always the music was the thing
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  Speaker 1: that I turned to when I was angry at the world,
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  Speaker 1: when I was sad at the world, when I was
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  Speaker 1: confused by the world, when I didn't understand myself.
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  Speaker 2: Music was the thing that gave me the scaffold to
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  Speaker 2: hold on to. Man, it was like the thing that
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  Speaker 2: made me go, oh, okay, cool, It's okay to feel
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  Speaker 2: sad because Robert Smith from The Cures writes a song
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  Speaker 2: that makes me feel less alone in the world, or
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  Speaker 2: Metallica makes me feel okay to be angry at the
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  Speaker 2: state of free market capitalism, or you know, like to
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  Speaker 2: rage you know hard, you know, like because I'm sitting
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  Speaker 2: here going fuck, this world's weird and crazy and messed
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  Speaker 2: up and confusing.
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  Speaker 1: And music's always.
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  Speaker 2: Been there for me, man, from when I was a
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  Speaker 2: kid to even as a fifty three year old, and
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  Speaker 2: so writing this music was like really cathartic because it
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  Speaker 2: made me go, oh right, I'm feeling sad, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: also feeling vulnerable, but I'm also feeling fragile. But I'm
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  Speaker 2: also feeling like life's really precious right now. So there's
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  Speaker 2: lots of emotions that go when you lose your mum,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and you've got young kids, and you're going, oh,
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  Speaker 2: right now, I'm the adult in the room, and you
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  Speaker 2: feel like a seventeen year old and you're head and
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  Speaker 2: hold it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have parents anymore. What the hell? That's just
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  Speaker 1: me and then the universe and then there's nothing backing
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  Speaker 1: me up.
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  Speaker 2: I feel sort of Vertigo almost like it's scary, you know,
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  Speaker 2: but at the same time, Yeah, I know what I'm doing.
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  Speaker 2: I should be able to look after these kids good.
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  Speaker 2: And it makes me love them more and it makes
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  Speaker 2: me love every day more.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like sad and beautiful at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And I just need to hear that music.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: One thing I've always wonder bro, and you might be
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  Speaker 3: able to help me with this is like when do
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  Speaker 3: you write songs like that that are cathartic for yourself
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  Speaker 3: when it helps you deal with a certain part of
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  Speaker 3: your life, Like and it's not just for these ones now,
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  Speaker 3: it's any music, but when you're playing them on stage
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  Speaker 3: five ten years later, like is it still good for you?
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  Speaker 3: Like because you're bringing those repressed memories back every time
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  Speaker 3: you play that song. So is it still helping?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I find these songs really comforting, Like they make sense
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  Speaker 2: of that pain, they make they make it there's something
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  Speaker 2: beautiful that came out of that pain, you know. Like
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  Speaker 2: so it's like there's that beauty you know. Maybe it's
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  Speaker 2: growing up in in Z there's that real sort of
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  Speaker 2: we're surrounded by mountains and shit and you're always constantly
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  Speaker 2: humbled by the by nature, and you know, like so
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  Speaker 2: we've always got this slightly there's sort of like there's
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  Speaker 2: a sadness a bit of beauty in it as well,
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  Speaker 2: and it's like I've always been a acted to that
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  Speaker 2: shit man, like that triumphant, sad, beautiful thing, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like the big thing. I like that shit. She oud
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  Speaker 2: have used that that trick even from the first record,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like Satians has got that sad but beautiful melody.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's churned, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And then even kill Joy, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Like, you know the chorus of Gimme Gimme, even though
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  Speaker 2: it's a here be as hell record, that opens up
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  Speaker 2: this beautiful, triumphant feeling, you know, like sort of a
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  Speaker 2: bit of sweet you know.
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  Speaker 1: Like so I'm cool with that because that's how I
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  Speaker 1: sort of look at life.
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  Speaker 2: Because life can be hard, life can be sad, but
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  Speaker 2: it can also be fucking beautiful, and it can be
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  Speaker 2: inspiring and amazing and triumphant, you know, and it's and
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  Speaker 2: it's all of those things at once.
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  Speaker 1: So I need to hear music that does all of
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  Speaker 1: those things at once, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: Yea, how about vocally may like you used to getting
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  Speaker 3: up there and belting it out when you're sing So
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  Speaker 3: how did you go vocally during the acoustic album? Did
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  Speaker 3: you have to you have to work at.
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  Speaker 1: It this, you know, I've experimented with my voice before,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, these songs like Swallow Song, which is
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  Speaker 1: dealing with me and dealing with tonight and dealing with
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  Speaker 1: the fact that I'm trying to run away from myself
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  Speaker 1: at three o'clock in the morning because I can't sleep
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  Speaker 1: because my ears are going crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Song walking ten kilometers around a suburb in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of the night.
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  Speaker 1: Guy, Oh, man, I just want to get out of myself,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I want to get it run away from myself,
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  Speaker 1: but I can't because I'm stuck here, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: I need a quiet voice to be able to talk
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  Speaker 1: about that feeling of being trapped and that feeling of
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  Speaker 1: wanting to escape, you know. Like but then you know
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  Speaker 1: other songs like gravity, Man, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Singing full voice, you know, because that's talking about that's
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  Speaker 2: talking about okay, cool, I've lost.
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  Speaker 1: My parents but that and and I remember my dad
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  Speaker 1: too mean, when.
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  Speaker 2: He was close to death and he said ship that
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  Speaker 2: wab quick and I was like, ah, that's right. Life
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  Speaker 2: does go quick, you know, so make sure when you
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  Speaker 2: wake up that you get something at least one great
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  Speaker 2: thing out of every day, man, because it's not you
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  Speaker 2: ain't going to be here forever, you know. Like, so
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  Speaker 2: gravity's talking about that, talking about Okay, right, if that's
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  Speaker 2: what happens, let's just work out what pars.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have to waste my time going down. What
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  Speaker 1: pars I want to go down, you know, Like, so.
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  Speaker 2: I need my full voice for that because it's about
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  Speaker 2: you know, you know. So, yeah, I'm just enjoying. I'm
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  Speaker 2: enjoying singing, using my voice to you know, communicate what
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  Speaker 2: I'm feeling, you know, and learning different ways around it.
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  Speaker 3: About the writing process for doing an acoustic solo album
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  Speaker 3: as opposed to a band album, is there much difference?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean what she had, you know, she had
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  Speaker 1: makes a big, wide, you know, apocalyptically heavy soundtrack. So
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  Speaker 1: I tend to hear that music and I go, ah good,
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  Speaker 1: I get to I get to talk about big things,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 2: I get to talk about the rise of fascism and
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  Speaker 2: the rise of this and and how all people are struggling.
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  Speaker 2: All these rich motherfuckers are taking everything and I get
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  Speaker 2: to go ah, you know, and and and spit it out.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm talking about big world things, whereas with this
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  Speaker 1: and what happened, it was real local. Man. I lost
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  Speaker 1: my mom. I was looking at my kids, going, what
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  Speaker 1: am I going to you know, how am I going
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  Speaker 1: to be the best ad for them? I was looking at,
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  Speaker 1: you know, losing my brother in law. I was thinking about.
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  Speaker 2: It was really local, and so I needed music that
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  Speaker 2: wasn't like ah, but it was like there, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like really close. And so that's that's the thing I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't writing for a soul record. I was writing
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  Speaker 2: to understand what had just happened to me. And the
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  Speaker 2: music that I needed to heal was was more gentle, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, it does.
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  Speaker 2: It has its grand moments on this record, gets quite big,
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  Speaker 2: sort of like big that way, whereas she has big that.
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  Speaker 1: Way, you know, like gets quite deep that way. You know,
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  Speaker 1: this record, So yeah, it's interesting. So I just needed
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  Speaker 1: to be able to talk about those things I needed.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't need it, you know, I needed real tight ship,
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  Speaker 2: you know, real tight and local ship.
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  Speaker 3: You know, now you're going to be heading over this
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  Speaker 3: side of the world to Australia for a few shows
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  Speaker 3: next month as well, starting at most as a Clubhouse
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  Speaker 3: on November fourte eight through four, hitting Brisbane and Melbourne.
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  Speaker 3: Finish you can sit here on November seven, eighth, bro.
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  Speaker 1: So what can we expect from those shows? Well, I reckon.
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  Speaker 2: The album's only thirty seven minutes long, so I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring this beast.
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  Speaker 1: This is a D eighteen.
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  Speaker 2: I love it, and I'm going to play that album
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  Speaker 2: and then I'm going to blast through some of the
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  Speaker 2: she Haard songs that really affect me and that work
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  Speaker 2: really good on the acoustic guitar. And then I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to blast through songs that mean shit to me as
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  Speaker 2: a fifty three year old dude that I was listening
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  Speaker 2: to even as a kid, you know, whether that's Neil Young,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's Bowie, whether it's you know, motor Head, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, and I'm gonna have fun with this instrument,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like it's gonna be great and.
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  Speaker 3: My voice, Yeah, they're gonna be sort of interm a
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  Speaker 3: job shows, just you and the guitar and the state.
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  Speaker 1: Voice guitar talking. It's different from Sheehard whereas yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: don't have anything to hide behind, you know, in this situation.
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  Speaker 1: But that's actually cool man, It's it's thrilling.
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  Speaker 2: It reminds me of early she had, you know, gigs,
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  Speaker 2: when I didn't know what the fuck we were doing either.
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  Speaker 2: So it was like, so you have to be really
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  Speaker 2: present because you didn't want to mess it up. You know,
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  Speaker 2: this is good because like in this situation, nothing to
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  Speaker 2: hide behind. Boys, I got to send good, I've got
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  Speaker 2: to play guitar good. You know it's good and it
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  Speaker 2: makes me really be prison you know.
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  Speaker 3: A solo shows over there or these be the first ones?
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  Speaker 1: No, I start.
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  Speaker 2: I start my tour on the eleventh. So for this
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  Speaker 2: Friday coming.
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  Speaker 1: Up, I've been playing.
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  Speaker 2: I've been playing solo shows about twelve years, bro. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm all good with it. You know, I love I
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  Speaker 2: love it essentially thrilling, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know it's cool now.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: I gave the game away a little bit here earlier on,
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: but I've stuck it called photo bomb, And what I've
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: done is I've trolled through your socials before we had
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: ed it. I picked out a couple of photos that
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: I want to talk more about. Let's go this one
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: of you guys, What the hell there.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: So basically this is like, okay, okay, this is we've
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: got General Electric, came out, did much.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Better than anybody expected.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden we had you know, like
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Australian you know, like the Arias, and we got nominated
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: for a few things. That was like, okay, we never
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: have been invited to one of these, so let's make
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: sure that we make a grand entrance. What can we do?
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: How about we hire a hovercraft? Do they even have
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: those in Sydney? Yeah, yep, we found a company. Great, awesome, Okay, cool,
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Well we can't drive it because I don't know what
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: we're doing, but can we get the driver to like
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: stick a motor head T shirt on as well when
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: he's driving us? And we just yeah, that's how we arrived.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: And I think it was pretty triumphant entrance. We're pretty
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: I was pretty happy with that outcome.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Getting blow back from organizers were they like what the fuck?
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: N I think that once they realized we were going
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: to kill anybody and that it wasn't us driving professionally driven,
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: they were okay with it.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, mate, that's fucking awesome. And the other one I
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: got is this is one here man, how special of
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: a feeling.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Is that that is the best feeling in the world.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: And it's it's I just love that, the smashing of
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: the lines between stage and audience, Like any chance I
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: get where it's like all right because I mean because
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: for me, I mean I get the best.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: View in the house, like on stage, watching.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: A crowd go boom, boom boom is actually I think
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: it's better than anything watching us, you know, like you know, like, yes,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: we try and make ourselves look okay, and you know,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: work hard and stuff like that. But I love watching
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: like a crowd move together, sing together. Man, that's the
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: best feeling in the world, best view in the world.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: So to actually get to be a part of that,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I've always loved that. I think this has taken it.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: This is Shepherd's Bush Empire in the UK. I think
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: last time we were there maybe, and I think it
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: is nice.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Twenty twenty whatever it was, I didn't right down where
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: it was.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's it's London, it's England.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I love that feeling, bro, It's it's awesome.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: And have the crowd every wanted to keep your mate
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: and not not send you back that way and brought
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: you that way.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely him. In moments where I've I've yeah,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: lost lost things. I lost lost my wedding ring once.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: That was that was problematic. Probably did you get it back? No, nevers, nevers,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: you're married, she didn't kick out. Oh you know, we
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: divorced after that. I'm won my second singer marriage now, Bro.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Absolute pleasure speaking as usual mate, Last of the London
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Gods is out October the eleventh, and everything you've said
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: it is, Bro. It is man.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I had to listen to it through and.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: It's there's emotions, it's it's like you've done well man.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Thanks mate, thank you, appreciate it all.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: And the tour kicks off in November the eleventh in
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: New Zealand. It comes to austral in November fourteenth. I'm
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: going to come down to Most Desert club House and
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: say hello my friends.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: So it would be great, be great to see you man,