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The Post Arbaeen Trap (Ft. Sayed Saleh Qazwini) · After Maghrib 🌙

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All the Balahaman shut on line in the regime's Milaha Rahman
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Rahim, respective brother sisters Islam Alaikum Mohammed
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Tolahi Rakatu, welcome back to the Aftermath podcast and to
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begin we offer our condolences to you all on the arbayin the
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40th after the day of Araba afar with yourselves in Sharla.
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So join us on this journey towards Imam her saying today
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where we are going to be having a very very interesting
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discussion with a fantastic guest.
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stay up to date as always before we get into the discussion, as
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always, my respected cohost said Ali Sao Aliko,
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how you keeping bro well, but the heart is not well, you know?
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The fact we're still here, we're not in Karbala.
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And it's a place where you know all your friends, your family,
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your relatives, the world, every love of your mom, Hussein, is
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there right now and you're here. But Hamdalala from far as you
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said, we can send our salams. The last week we had a
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fascinating discussion with Mullah Ahmad Sadir and he I
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posted this on the story. I don't know if you saw we're
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talking about dreams prior and and I had a very vivid dream.
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I was in Karnabala. I could feel the heat on my
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face. I could feel the the sand on my
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between my my feet and it was intense and I woke up feeling
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this yearning to be alongside of Abdullah.
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And then I remembered what Ahmed Sadiq said Mullah last week and
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he said there's a mum. Hussein needs us.
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Wherever we are in the world. If we're alongside him, we're
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beside him. We have a purpose.
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We're there to pay. Our two hours are but in
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Charlotte we have maybe some some opportunity to do something
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here and joining us in Charlotte to allow us to further
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understand this and maybe to reap the benefits of this
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blessed day is none other than say it's because when it's I
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love. Bless you both.
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It's my honor to be here. Say thank you so much for
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joining us. During the It's a pleasure to
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have you in the houses. How long has it been since
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you've been in? The Holy City of London 10
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years, but it feels very. Different because almost
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everyone we know is in Karbala right now.
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But Hamdallah, as you said, there's a purpose, you know
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someone has to recite the Magius of Imam Hussein and and the
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message of Imam Hussein is a universal one.
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So although the heart is in Karbala, but feels like you know
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you have to go where you where you need, where you're needed.
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Is it hard being an Islamic scholar at a time like this,
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where you maybe as a as a personal choice you'd prefer to
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be somewhere else, but you feel like you have responsibility to
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be with the community? Of course, this is not only
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during out of my hand, but always.
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You know, sometimes you have to travel, you have to leave your
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family, leave your kids. But there's a higher purpose in
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what we do. And then Hamdulla Chadla, Allah
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accepts us from the servants of the Athlete Bait Slam.
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And mail locks up from us. Charlotte, no doubt mail locks
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up all that you do and Charlotte give you more.
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So to continue and then do more in the service of the elevator.
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Say that I have a question, you know, you know, I haven't said,
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you know is it difficult, you know, to choose not to go to
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Carabala because you have to serve.
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What can we say to those who want to go by Congo?
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They're not serving. But I I have so much people that
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we get so much messages and I think it's nice that we start
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the conversation here. I want to go.
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I just can't go. There's so much obstacles.
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Be at work, you know, be a financial situations, be it
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family commitments, be be it physically done, able to go.
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Now I have heard people can do, you know, hydrant on water on
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your behalf, for example. Can the same happen for Ziata as
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well? Of course Ziata can be done on
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behalf of anyone and we even have a hadith where Imam al Hadi
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al is Saddam. He actually sent someone.
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To go and pray for him as they hire, Yes.
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And the when Imam and Hadi fell ill, he has a companion.
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His name is Abu Hashemal Jaffery.
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He tells Abu Hashemal Jaffery Find me someone that goes to
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Karbara and will pray for me. So the man was confused and Abu
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Hashem Jaffery was probably confused.
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He's an Imam. Why is he asking someone else to
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go and pray for him while he's an imam?
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So then the Imam al is Saddam. He says Rasola loss of Allah Ali
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who Allah was greater than the Kaba and the Hajjar.
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I mean however Rasola law used to go to the Kaba and Rasola
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used to go to the Hajjar and then the Imam.
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He says that there are places where a loss of Hana Hotel Allah
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likes to be asked and Karbala is one of them.
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So definitely you could send someone and I believe in Shala
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that we have some friends, we have some many in that are
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already including us in our DA and their DA and their ziada.
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But sending someone for niada, this is something that is
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totally accepted and and a lot of us who are not there of
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course. Now today being Thursday we are
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in the day of Adebayan depending obviously where you are in the
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world and and kind of how you are commemorating it.
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Some of us went to Magalis last night but what what can we do
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now that the day is upon us and we are reflecting on what
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happened 40 days ago said how do we pay our respects to the Holy
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Imam today. Are there any recommended acts,
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anything we can be doing to make the most of the day?
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And yeah, how do we kind of approach?
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It so of course there's a ziata. There's a special ziata for Imam
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Hussein on the day of Arbain. And as we know, there's ziadas
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for Imam Hussein. Throughout the whole year and
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probably every important Islamic occasion.
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There's a ziada for Imam Hussein, yeah, on the day of
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raid we visit Imam Hussein and the month of Ramadan, Leila
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Salkar. And every night during Shah
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Ramadan, there's a specific ziada for Imam Hussein and Rajab
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and Shaban and. Throughout the whole Arafah,
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throughout the whole, almost every major Islamic occasion,
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there's a Z Auto for remember saying honest.
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And on the day of Arbine, there's a Z Auto for remember to
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say. Now, of course for those who are
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feeling bad, we didn't make it this year.
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I know I you could probably make it for other Z autos like out of
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like Shaban. You know, Leila, Salka and
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Ashura. And perhaps, perhaps, I'm not
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saying with full certainty, but perhaps the other ziatas, their
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chain of narrations in terms of authenticity from the Imam is
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stronger than Ziata Til Arbine. Really.
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Yes, so for example. If I'm not mistaken, say Dil
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Hoi, he was asked which ziada is greater and I believe he
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replied, for example, Ziada to Arafa.
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Ziada to Arafa is greater because of the chain of
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narrations not to you know, have people stop going for the ziadas
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that are buying, of course, but just to make you make us feel.
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Better make us feel better because.
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We missed out the there are Ziadas that are.
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For example, you know Arafa a lot, answers the do I have the
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visitors of the man Hussein before those who are already in
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Arafa? Yes, and I think life, I mean,
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at least I found that visiting Karbala in different times of
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the year has a different feel on each occasion.
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Whenever you go to Karbala or even to Najaf, you always have a
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different experience, a different sensation.
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You'll you'll encounter different types of people
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there'll be different sorts of about that that are going on and
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there's always something to learn something to gain.
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So it's it's very nice to handle that say I think what what we
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really wanted to discuss. So over the last like few weeks
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you know we have been assessing the story of about De La Hussein
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from inception until the contemporary kind of thought and
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in terms of practice where do we go from here.
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So we've spent weeks and weeks in Aza in morning chosen.
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A lot of us now are going to step back into the world of
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reality. Some of us will return from Iraq
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and come go back to our nine to five jobs and thrown back into
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the deep end of day-to-day life. Where do we go from here?
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Because there's obviously so many, so many responsibilities
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for us, but we not sure kind of how to go about it.
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So I believe that the journey to Imam Hussein Ali as Salam is
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continuous. Some people are walking.
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Or some people finish the walk and they're going back home.
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But the journey to Imam Hussein, we're all on it.
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And we're because it's not just reaching Karbala physically.
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Being in Karbala, I think we have to look at it.
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We have to look at the bigger picture and we have to try to
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aspire to be like that which Imam Hussein wants us to be.
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Have I reached that goal or have I not reached that goal?
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In terms of my family, in terms of my spirituality, in terms of
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my halab, in terms of my abada? All aspects.
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There's lessons to learn from Imam Hussein or from the
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companions of Imam Hussein. One of those who are with Imam
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Hussein. So we are all on a journey to be
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husseiny, so we're not physically walking.
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But we're on the journey to be with Imam Hussain.
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And like Imam Hussain and that journey doesn't Muharram my end,
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suffer my end. But that journey should never
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end. We should always aspire to
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follow our role models, starting with Rasoda lasso, La, Hale,
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Hale La Kat, Kan Ela, Comfi, rasso de la He, Oswatan, Hassan,
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Immiran, Many and Fatimasez. Although we are commemorating
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but one way of doing injustice to the ahlid bait is that as
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soon As for example stuff are finished some people they go
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back to their routine life and if the routine life is not doing
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anything Haram then Hamdulla, but sometimes some of us we
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start falling, we start drifting slowly away from the values that
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we've been remembering and crying for for.
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This days and weeks and months. Well, this is a good point.
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And you know we had the podcast recently where we have the
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guests also mentioned something very similar say then he was
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like, you know, Muharram and stuff are.
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The problem with us is that we take Muharram and suffer and
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that's how we stop. Yeah.
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But he mentioned a very critical point here and I it hit me
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really hard. He was like Muharram and suffer
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at the time of mourning and grief.
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The next 10 months is when the real work starts.
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Yeah, yeah. Because if, if.
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And we've also had a very, you know, a deep conversation called
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parttime Muslims many, many weeks ago saying and we spoke
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about this where we were like, you know, when so.
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Parttime Muslims is like buffet Muslims.
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It's. Like for example what you want
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how long comes when Muslim for 10 day long comes.
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What is that terminology? And and and I and I think this
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sort of answers that that discussion we had much earlier,
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I was thinking the same thing. So that it gave me some
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flashbacks to our previous conversations we have and it's
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and it's so important that we don't let go of them because I
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feel like we neglect them. And we disrespect that.
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Can I ask you say it. Yeah.
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You know this discussion had part time Muslims and entering
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Muharram, we the, I remember in the first week in the first
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conversation we referenced this. We said let's not be part time
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Muslims. Let's not be Muslims for 50 days
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and then after the day of Adebayin we are we are done.
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You know, we're not thinking about anything else.
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What what? What do you feel we can do to
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kind of keep going, keep our self on the right track because
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we discussed this a few weeks? Ago I I think the best answer to
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this for me personally and coming from my, you know, circle
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of friends or surroundings environment is that whatever you
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changed, that means you knew, you knew what you were doing is
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wrong. The fact you start to accept and
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acknowledge that what you left behind during these ten nights
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or during these 30 days during the month of Ramadan, the fact
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you left them is wrong. So you know already you are, you
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know, shall we say you, you are pressing yourself by sitting to
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a loss of Hana by, you know, going against the teachings of
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Rasola Muhammad Sala la Hawaani. Wanna send them.
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So the fact that you can acknowledge what you're doing is
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wrong. Make sure you don't go back to
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that wrong. But I don't think it's easy, no.
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As much as I say you know my environments, but my
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environments is mixed. I see Marsha la, you know.
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People have a lot of God's beauty.
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Yeah, yeah. People see beauty and
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everything, but then people see beauty in the studio as well.
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How can we like I can say get rid of the studio feeling where
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this contentment that we are happy with this world, in fact
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we should be working for the next World.
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So this is the $1,000,000 question that everyone's you
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know, how can we pounds you on the UK million?
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You know, I think one of the one of the ways of kind of always
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reminding ourselves to stay on track is through the obligations
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that a loss of Hanna Tada has made wajo upon us.
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For example Salah we when we pray the Salah has a purpose in
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the Salah to Tenha and Infasha prayer is supposed to cleanse
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you. The Holy Prophet referred to it
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as a He told he tells the Muslims imagine a stream of
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water in front of your house and you go and you dip yourself.
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You you wash yourself five times a day.
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How clean are you going to be? They all said you're going to be
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very clean. Tells them this is exactly what
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Salat does. So but the problem is a lot of
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us we pray but we feel like our prayer is not really our prayer
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isn't. It's become so routine, it's not
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effective where it's not effective anymore.
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Or for example, giving sadaka or there's one thing the narrations
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of the albeit talk about cus what's it called when the when
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the heart becomes hard because of you know, probably so much
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wrong sinning evil vices that we're exposed to that it becomes
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very normal for us. You see something wrong, You see
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war, you see bloodshed, you see hunger, you see people deprived.
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And we're not moved anymore, so. Try to go back to your core, try
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to go back to what God has commanded and try to contemplate
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on the Ibad, the contemplate on everything that a loss of Hannoi
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Tada has given you. That's the that's the only way
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that we could kind of say and strengthen ourselves.
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Some some can say, I don't think they disagree with anything, but
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I think some people have this guilt within them where they say
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I've done so much hot on, I've done so much sin.
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There is no way on God's green earth Allah's going to forgive
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me. Well, that is that is one of the
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greatest of the sins to undermine the mercy of a loss of
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Han Otala. While I talk not to Omad
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Rahmatsala giving up hope on God that that is a greater sin than
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than what you can imagine. I mentioned in my measures Imam
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Zenila Abdinal, his Salaam he he saw a man.
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Who was crying and crying and crying?
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Allah forgive me and I know you will not forgive me, Imamsen
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Abdin tells him. How could you say that?
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How could you say something like that?
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God is the all forgiving. God is the merciful, he tells
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the Imam. I participated in the murder of
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Abdullah. I participated in the murder of
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your father. You think God will forgive me
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for that? Imams in Abdinalah Salaam.
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He did not tell him God will forgive you.
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Imam Zela Abedin tells him the fact that you have given up hope
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on the mercy of God is a greater sin than even killing Imam
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Hussein. Now of course we know that
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there's the sins, they have consequences.
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Just like for example if someone drinks a drinks a cup of poison,
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God might forgive you, but that poison is going to have an
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effect on you. So sinning.
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And living a lifestyle that is very far from God.
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Yes, we might want to have a change of heart, but sometimes
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that sinful lifestyle, it has consumed us so much.
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It has darkened our heart so much that there is no there's a
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point of no return. But the there is not from God.
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God is forgiving. God will always forgive.
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But I have caused so much damage to myself that it becomes hard
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to go back. So we say that the one who for
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example. Killed him.
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I'm saying God is forgiving if they were to repent, but because
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the sin that they have done has caused so much damage for them
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that, you know, just like a heart, sometimes they they'll,
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the doctors will tell you we could fix this heart.
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We could work on it, go exercise.
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We'll do stents. We'll do all these things, some
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cholesterol medicine. But at one some point you reach
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a point where the doctors are saying, you know you need a
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heart transplant. We can't do anything.
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This heart, Yeah, yeah, there's a lot I think which like a lot
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of lessons, microcosmic lessons to take away from Arbayin and
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Arshara in general. And that build up towards
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Arbayin. One of which I think is some of
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us get taken, we get swept with the tide of Azar.
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So you see the passion and like you're basking in the glory of
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Azar in in Majallis shuts off hard slopum you can imagine.
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And outside of the Majlis, a lot of us are not really doing what
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we should be doing, like you said, say.
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So either we'll slip back into bad routines, we'll stop doing
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the good things we've implemented, or we'll start
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redoing the bad things we stopped prior.
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And unfortunately, the things which have kept us closer to the
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imam, such as the mourning, the tears and so on, once that
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stops, suddenly the interest drops.
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Do you see what I mean? So I mean one thing for me which
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I found on a personal level is when you understand that
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Abdullah Hussain Islam is is Miss Bahl Hoddawa Sephina Tanja
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and that he can transport you directly to alas Panwad Allah in
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the fastest and the widest ship. As we say we find that it's it's
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very easy to understand a lot when you understand Karbala and
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you understand in Mama Hussain because you can find examples as
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I mentioned in your microcosmic day-to-day life every single day
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in Karbala. Whether you're talking about
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doing the right thing and not the easy thing.
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You look at hold. Whether you talk about
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respecting your siblings look up I will find that I'm bossing
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Mama Hussain. Whether you're talking about
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mercy, you talk about water and and the giving of water and the
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deprivation of water on Karbala. So I think the for me one, one
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of the main lessons I'd say on for me on Arbain is the
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reflection element. It's it's good to memorize
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hadith and it's good to read loads of books, but are we
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actually understanding them? Are we taking the way away the
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lessons Because I'm a South Asian Khurja man born 1400 years
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later, thousands of miles away from Kadabala.
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What relevance does it have to my life today?
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For me, it's the lessons I can take from Kadabala and I can
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apply those lessons outside of this season.
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So maybe we should come together.
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And I know said you wanted to talk about Community Action and
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community kind of reaction in this season, but one of the
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things we can take away in the community is how to use these
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lessons from Kadabala and then maybe to implement them on an
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individual and on a mass scale. So I know I'm talking a lot of
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hot air perhaps, but I think it's maybe a time for for me to
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ask you say as a as a community leader, as a community guide,
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what what do you want to see in your community and in our
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community following this period of of spiritual transformation?
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So you know, one of the biggest blessings that we have is Imam
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Hussein. And the remembrance of Imam
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Hussein, it really revives communities.
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It really brings communities together.
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You know I was I was thinking imagine if we didn't have Imam
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Hussein, Imagine if we didn't have these ten nights Majalas,
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where would all these Shia, where would all these you know,
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people be all of these pleasures all of so much benefit for some
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people so much dema, all of that.
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You know, where would where would people get all that from.
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So you might have some measure because they might not like
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that. But I'm not.
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I'm not. I'm just a.
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Staple quote He's He loves. He loves we both.
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Carbala is, yeah. So, you know, Iman Hussein,
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Saddam really revives us. And in terms of lectures, right
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now you just Google, you know, every year you have lecture, you
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have speakers that give lectures, at least 10 lectures
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during Muharram. If you sit throughout the whole
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year and just listen to all of the all of the speakers that
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you'll, you'll have enough, you'll have enough lectures that
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will, you know, for for the whole year.
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But we have to so so there's a lot of benefit and blessings
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that come from I'm Hussain but we have to try to go beyond what
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is what the majadas are limited to within the walls of the
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Husseinia within within our cultural practices.
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So there's a lot of things. I think we need to introduce
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Iman Husain to the world. I I live in America.
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Do Americans know about Mad Hussein?
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No. Do British people, all British
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people know about Madam Hussein? No.
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I mean the non-muslim British people.
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So we need to, we need to introduce people.
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So sometimes maybe some community members might not like
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that because it's a little bit different, but sometimes we have
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to think outside the box and try to attract millions of other
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potential followers of Imamin Hussein towards Imamin Hussein.
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And one of the best ways of doing so is through community,
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community type of, you know, events, community service,
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volunteering. Some people do blood drives,
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going out and giving out leaflets and you know, just
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letting people know about. And I'm just saying right now,
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one thing I admire about, you know, some Christian movements,
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some of them, you know, they, they really push that narrative.
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And it's true, we believe that Jesus was a loving person, a
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compassionate person, a community service person.
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He he served everyone. He didn't discriminate between
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the white and the black and the rich and the poor.
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That's a that's something that, you know, you see this narrative
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pushed by some, some Christians in their in their community
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service, in their charities, in their hospital work and they're
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volunteering. You know, you see some
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Christians, they're old, but they're doing volunteer work, so
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and they're doing volunteer work that is serving other other
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religions, other groups of people.
23:28
We should do that too. We saw the hair in the pandemic
23:31
say so that Dima, it could. It shouldn't be, you know, only
23:35
for the lovers of the island Bay.
23:37
It could be for everyone, you know, Imagine the.
23:40
Power of it, They'll bring people to us.
23:42
It's got Tabarrok. Tabarrok I'm sure has some sort
23:44
of. Calories.
23:45
No calories. You mentioned the Christian
23:47
community and you know, it just reminded me of when when we, you
23:51
know, when the world was going through the coronavirus and the
23:53
pandemic and everything. A lot of churches and apple of
23:55
church. Nearby to my house, it was
23:58
serving the entire neighborhood. The church was.
24:00
The church was. In terms of like if you can't go
24:03
out and shopping, we'll do the shopping for you.
24:05
If you need help with anything, if there's elderly people will
24:07
go, go, that get the medicine for you.
24:09
There was a lot of community work going on, so important and
24:12
reminding me of a very famous saying I always say about
24:14
Christians, Jesus loves you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:17
Jesus loves. You Hi.
24:18
That. That grabs your attention
24:20
straight away. You grabbed it right right
24:22
there. And I think we need to do that
24:23
more than we need to do that more.
24:25
Than you said bringing my Hussein to the wider community.
24:28
Like for someone who is like, I'm going to be really blunt for
24:32
for a young kid who's going through a drug addiction or
24:35
people listening to music or engaging in in illicit relations
24:38
or whatever. Like blood drives and stuff like
24:41
that on the surface levels. Like how does that change my
24:44
life? I have a a problem or an
24:46
addiction and I'm coming out of my no, it's it's the messaging
24:49
behind it. It's the inspiration from it
24:52
that is Imam and Hussein and Les.
24:54
And that, in a wider sense, will bring people towards a narrative
24:58
of mercy and love and community service is that.
25:01
Like who is Hussein? Yeah, who's the same?
25:03
Who is Hussein does that Giving out water bottles where
25:08
anything, you know, there's so many things that we could do.
25:10
There's not everything I. Say, if you don't mind me saying
25:13
yes, if I can be very like, of course, devil's advocate, that
25:16
is on an external level. So you are that by what you're
25:18
saying, water bottles, blood drives, leaflets, pamphlets
25:22
Hussein loves you Signs that is informing the wider community,
25:26
wider society, about mum Hussein.
25:28
I'm specifically thinking about the Shia community who are going
25:32
through issues and the transformative desire that we
25:34
have to change ourselves. Like engaging in those
25:37
activities is definitely one thing we can do.
25:39
The volunteering will bring people together and change us.
25:43
You know, issues. I have someone going through a
25:45
divorce, someone going through whatever it is, issues with
25:49
their family and work and whatever it might be.
25:51
But like at this critical junction we are at, you know,
25:56
after Adebayan. Like like there's people who are
26:01
who are in the thick of it now. Like, do you see what I mean?
26:04
Like the the the all the noise and the dust around you has
26:08
settled after other buying. Now you're back into reality and
26:12
you go into work the next day and you have a boss who's
26:14
screaming at you. You check your paycheck and your
26:16
paycheck is not meeting your expenses.
26:18
And it's the heat is on, the pressure's on.
26:22
How does one connect? Imam and Hussein Alehis Salaam
26:26
and Karabala and Arabain and Ashwara to their daytoday life
26:30
when they are followers of Abdullad Hussein, because I
26:32
think that's really an issue that the youth are facing today,
26:35
generally speaking across the West.
26:37
Neil, I don't know if you agree we have brother Neil Nasser is a
26:39
good friend of us behind the camera, but this is something I
26:41
feel like, Neil, you do a lot of community work and a lot of
26:44
youth work, you work in social enterprises and so on.
26:47
I just wanted to ask you if you've got any any thoughts on
26:49
this or any any kind of? Thoughts on on Because you you
26:54
you get involved with work for spreading the name Mamma Sen and
26:58
obviously you work with the youth of the Shia community.
27:00
Do you want to come use the microphone?
27:03
No shout. Thank you.
27:05
I'll pick up. Yeah, yeah, definitely pick up.
27:07
So. Yeah, it's it's.
27:10
I think you hit the nail on the head there.
27:11
It's about thinking outside the box.
27:13
It's not just thinking that one narrative like you're going to
27:17
spread the name of Abdullah. Just through giving out the
27:20
pamphlets or the water or whatever, it's about living the
27:24
values of AB Abdullah, living the values of him.
27:27
So if you see an elderly person that's struggling on the street
27:32
with their shopping bags, it's about going there and helping
27:36
over their shopping bags, Muslim or non-muslim.
27:39
And maybe your walk with the elderly person spots off a
27:43
conversation, and maybe that conversation may lead into the
27:46
fact that you're a Muslim. And you could talk to them about
27:49
Imam saying that they Salaam, you could talk to them, but it
27:51
may not. But just the value that you're
27:53
doing, you're doing that service towards him because you've
27:56
learned that value and that principle, you know, working
27:59
with the homeless people, as you know, we've done for many years
28:02
and you talked about drug addiction, you know, we have had
28:05
the opportunity to help. People and support people to get
28:09
off those drugs. Now it's not me going in there
28:14
saying. You know, I'm a husseinia.
28:16
I'm going to be there. I'm going to beat my chest.
28:19
I'm going to do everything and and not do anything about this
28:22
person that's struggling with this addiction.
28:24
No, I'm going to take the values and the principles of the
28:27
humanitarian that ABBA Abdullah was this person as a human being
28:33
and try to help him through the connections that I have through
28:36
the NHS and other services. And the Habdullah, This person
28:39
is now off the heroin that he was taking.
28:43
And now this person, a non-muslim, comes to serve at
28:47
the Food Drive 360, right? Yeah.
28:51
So he knows about Imam Hussein through the actions that we did
28:55
to get what I mean. Now they seem to be a simple,
28:58
very simple You knock on the neighbor's door.
29:01
I'm going to the school. Do you?
29:02
Need anything do you need? Anything.
29:04
Yeah, Small. And that's how.
29:05
That's how the Prophet, you know, really invited people to
29:09
Islam. That's how the athlete weight
29:10
worked. Yeah.
29:11
It seems that right now we're reducing this whole concept and
29:16
of Imam Hussein and everything that he stood for to.
29:20
We're simplifying it to just the Magalas and the loved them and
29:23
and all this is good. We're supposed to do that
29:25
because that gives a voice to Imam Hussein and it gives a
29:29
platform for teaching people more about Imam Hussein.
29:32
But I think we need to take it a step further.
29:35
And as exactly as Neil said, you know, community service, helping
29:39
out people, the Holy Prophet used to do that sort of law.
29:42
Why was he a mercy to mankind? And you would do that to
29:45
non-Muslims. To non-Muslims.
29:46
And there's an interesting story where he, he helped the lady and
29:51
she didn't know who he was. Yeah, in Mecca.
29:54
And then she tells him, you know what, you seem like a Goodman.
29:56
I want to give you a piece of advice.
29:58
There's this crazy lunatic. His name is Mohammed.
30:01
Yeah. Don't follow him.
30:03
That's the advice that I'm giving you.
30:04
He told her I'm Mohammed. So it shows, you know, he was
30:09
actually practicing what he preaches.
30:12
And probably 90% of not only Islam's preaching but the
30:17
preaching of all of the prophets is community service.
30:19
Helping out others, helping your neighbors, helping your friends,
30:22
being kind to your parents. These are all ways that we could
30:25
be like Imam Hussein and followers of Imam Hussein and
30:27
they have made spot. A lot.
30:30
And you know, being our buying this whole community thing,
30:32
well, it just took me back to like Headman, you know, service
30:35
and like. You know you would give
30:38
everything in the name of Imam with per se and I think that's
30:40
something we can apply in our in our own life and it's a nice
30:42
thought to have what would per se do, what would Russell, La La
30:45
do, but I think that's something.
30:47
I'm really going to miss the headman all of that every year
30:49
when at this time of year it's like withdrawal symptoms already
30:53
kick in, you know, and you think Hamdulah Hara bilali mean for
30:58
all the blessings we've had over the last few weeks to do
31:01
whatever service we've done. In the Majalis, even outside of
31:04
the Majalis, there's no time in the year like this.
31:07
Time harm and suffer and I'm really going to miss it.
31:11
Charlotte we get granted more, many dozens more in Charlotte.
31:15
Visitation about it is emotional it.
31:18
Is really, really emotional, you know?
31:19
Today I was watching a video, someone shared a clip with me on
31:22
my WhatsApp and it was someone who just yesterday sets up his
31:26
MO kit. During the mashia.
31:28
So. So the people went to ask me
31:31
they're filming this conversation.
31:32
They're like why you setting up now?
31:33
Yeah. His sister he's building he's
31:36
erecting the the tents and and he was like I just managed to
31:40
get my I just sold my car. I just got my money now to do
31:42
this. Wow.
31:44
Because I tried so much to, you know this this car wasn't making
31:47
him go to work and come back because he goes.
31:49
I realize now there's literally a few days left towards the
31:53
Mashia ending. I have to sell my car by if I
31:56
want to serve and my whole life revives their own service and
32:00
headsman community work. I need to sell my own personal
32:03
belongings car which is so important to his day-to-day life
32:06
just to serve. And this teaches you that you
32:10
know there's no it's you're never too late in the service of
32:12
them. Hussein.
32:13
Just like when we talk about the companions of them Hussein.
32:16
There were some who were with him from day one when he left,
32:20
and there were some who joined last minute.
32:22
But now as long as you join, as long as you are in it, you know
32:28
you are living that the Hussein, your lifestyle and you're
32:31
following the teachings of a man, Hussein.
32:33
That's what's the most important.
32:35
Said what? What advice would you give to
32:38
us? Obviously in the next few weeks
32:39
we have a lot of landmark occasions in our community, so
32:42
obviously we have Faso, Sulma, Muhammad, Salah, Hawali, Wali.
32:46
Suddenly we have Aiden Zahra coming up, Then we have Milad
32:50
Nabi coming up. All these.
32:52
Major occasions coming up, now moving forward, what would you
32:58
advise the community from from your perspective as to how to
33:03
approach these these major occasions how to see the Islam
33:07
and how to kind of like approach because now look a lot of a lot
33:11
of us would have made personal oaths in these days to say I
33:13
want to make be a better person I want to follow last ones on
33:16
them in a more beneficial way. How do we now move forward when
33:19
it comes to these key events? So you know, and Hamdallah
33:23
Allah, Sabhanota Allah has given US14 lights, not just Imam
33:27
Hussain, Ali, Saddam, even though the remembrance of Imam
33:30
Hussein takes up a lot of time. But we have Rasodallah, you
33:35
know, tell people about Rasodallah.
33:37
What's wrong with having educational lectures on the life
33:41
of Rasodallah, on the life of Fatima Tzara, on the added bait
33:44
Alim as Saddam. I would encourage the continuing
33:48
of the Majales, but I would also push it a little bit more.
33:51
You know, do something creative, do something different.
33:56
For example, do a play about the life of the prophet. 11 scene
34:00
from the life of the Prophet. You know in your community, in
34:03
your centers do something about Fatima Zahra.
34:06
You know a project in the name of Fatima Zahra, a project in
34:09
the name of the added bait. We this is how we could we could
34:14
learn more about the added bait and feel more connected with
34:18
them and tell other people, tell more people about the Ahil
34:21
Bethanyam Saddam by not limiting them just to our centers and our
34:26
personal modalities, but do things that are unique.
34:30
For example this podcast, this is something that not everyone
34:34
does. It's something that's unique
34:35
Mashallah and you know the fact that you're the style is
34:41
different and you're trying to talk to the youth and tell you
34:45
know bringing it at a personal level, this is different.
34:47
So let's with with regards to the Prophet, with regards to
34:51
Fatima Zara, there's, you know, there's so much room for
34:54
creativity and I believe that Islam encourages that and in the
35:00
service of the elevator also encourages that.
35:02
It's very kind of you say to mention us.
35:04
You're enduring that advice I had also.
35:08
No, I'm just. I echoed another question, and
35:11
since you've bought out the podcast, what advice would you
35:14
give us in this podcast? Something we can learn from.
35:18
So I would, I would recommend you know, dealing with real
35:22
problem, the real issues that people are dealing with.
35:25
Sometimes some people, they feel that the mumba, this pulpit that
35:30
we're we're speaking on is kind of above the people you know,
35:35
where it's not really connecting with people, with the needs of
35:39
the people, the needs of community members.
35:42
And you have variety of needs. You have the young, the old, the
35:45
woman, the children. They all have different needs.
35:48
We have different struggles that the community is dealing with
35:50
and different communities across the globe are dealing with
35:53
different needs and struggles. So I would advise that this
35:59
podcast try to focus on real issues that people are dealing
36:04
with and try to talk about it in a way where it would bring
36:11
address the problem and it would also bring solutions, real life
36:15
solutions. Because sometimes some people
36:18
just talk about problems and there's no real solutions.
36:21
And this could probably give people a voice talking about.
36:26
For example, there's there's a lot of hot topic issues that are
36:29
often neglected, mental health issues, depression, anxiety.
36:36
I thought it is important, but I thought we hear about that a lot
36:39
on the member, on the pulpits, but these are real issues that
36:43
people could connect with on this.
36:45
So if you mind if I ask, I know we're going to slightly go off
36:47
on a bit of a tangent is some may ask, is that not the role of
36:51
the member to address these real life issues?
36:54
The role of the member is to do that.
36:56
But the problem is the member is set up in a way where it's not
37:01
interactive. For example, yeah, there's no,
37:04
no one could come and, you know, raise their hands and say I have
37:07
a question, they don't. Rarely do we do Q&A sessions
37:11
with the scholars, with the speakers.
37:13
So this it could be, it could be made in that way where you know,
37:18
perhaps you could get messages and talk about real issues, real
37:24
questions that are people are dealing with and you address it
37:27
heart to heart, you know? I mean the The thing is we are
37:30
so blessed because our our Al Qaeda has remained strong and
37:36
firm, because of the institution of Baracharya and because of our
37:39
scholars and because of the Manaba in general, of course.
37:43
And we would not be, I would argue to say and we we say this
37:46
a lot. I mean many of our communities,
37:49
the COJA community as we say sometimes as an example,
37:52
wouldn't be Shia if it wasn't for the member.
37:55
Of the month, of course. And it's it's it's it's that
37:58
which is so fundamental we should never forget this.
38:00
But at the same time as the community has evolved and you
38:04
know, we live in a more globalized world now the the
38:07
needs and the challenges involved as well.
38:09
So there is the understanding and respecting the scholars.
38:13
Is so critical and so fundamental.
38:16
And in a world where we have unfortunately very bad
38:18
influences on social media and you've got people who really
38:21
badly misrepresent Islam and Shiism on social media, I think
38:26
now more than ever we need positive role models.
38:28
And now they say that your, your, yourself and and your
38:34
associates kind of who who are speaking around the world, have
38:37
taken to social media and it's been so engaging.
38:40
I really like that, you know. Yeah.
38:43
You do it yourself, although I should ask you to do it some
38:45
more because you don't post enough, but when you do post,
38:48
you post some fantastic reels. It gives us alternatives away
38:51
from the junk that we see. Honestly, it's amazing.
38:55
I remember we had a discussion here as well.
38:57
Previously. I was like, it's so amazing when
38:58
you see our special guys. I was called as releasing clips,
39:01
show videos, you know, holding like live sessions.
39:03
Yeah, we we all want to see what's happening.
39:06
We all want to learn from this, and it's an alternative for us.
39:08
Social media is dangerous. The one why, Why are people
39:12
really into social media? Because it opens door for
39:14
interaction. Yeah.
39:16
So it's not a one way, you know, you're just, you're just
39:19
listening to a lecture. You could kind of give feedback,
39:22
you could send messages. A lot of people reach out to me
39:25
on social media. They ask questions and there's
39:28
interaction. I spoke with you on Instagram.
39:31
Yeah, even though you should have my number, but.
39:34
That's the importance of, you know, being you can interact
39:37
with. I think I had your number, but
39:39
you changed your phone number or something.
39:41
Exposed. Yes, yes.
39:42
Not all. No, no, no, no.
39:44
Yeah. So this podcast is something new
39:50
and it's a way of serving. It's a way of spreading the
39:53
message of my Hussein, and I encourage you to continue in
39:57
what you're doing and shall end up with your DWAS.
40:00
Yeah, of course, of course. Anil Zoz.
40:02
And you're very quiet, but you know there's a smile on your
40:05
face. And so pan Allah, whenever I see
40:07
you know, actually. Be behind the camera for once.
40:10
Yeah, Neil, every time I see you, there's like Nora
40:13
Marshallah. He likes illuminates my
40:14
hairstyle. Habibi, Habibi said.
40:20
Say thank you so much for joining us, my love for guiding
40:24
us with your wisdom and your knowledge.
40:26
We pray that Los Fontana accepts all your Amman, all your Hajads,
40:29
your efforts, all your Majadas in the last couple of months and
40:33
of course in the last few days where you've been serving the
40:35
Hali community. Are you coming back to London
40:38
anytime soon? Not that I have nothing planned
40:43
right now. Who knows?
40:45
We'll see how things go. We have a really we'll find
40:48
after dinner. We'll have a really busy
40:51
community in Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, where we established
40:55
the new Islamic Center about a year ago, and it's called Mecca.
41:00
So if you want to go to Mecca in America, it stands for Muslim
41:06
educational. You get the visas.
41:08
Yeah, stands for Muslim Educational.
41:11
Community Center of America, I like it.
41:13
So we're we're also focusing on like creative programming
41:18
focused on the youth and pray for us.
41:21
So that's kind of kept me really occupied and shot of the
41:24
opportunity comes. No matter, bless you.
41:27
I've seen the Mecca Instagram page and a lot of the events and
41:31
the discussions that you have, like the topics of discussion,
41:34
are really exciting. It's nice, it's engaging and
41:36
it's inspiring to see. Shout out to everyone from from
41:39
Michigan because you guys are in constant healthy competition
41:43
with London and we love it. We love it.
41:45
Trust me, we love it. Now Handala, there's so much
41:48
beauty and and and butterka to come out of our community, but
41:50
say that thank you so much. He stole the nudity, Shahla.
41:54
He's he lives in Michigan now. So yeah, yeah, I hope.
41:59
I know you guys miss him. We do, we do.
42:01
And we've had them here twice on the podcast as well.
42:03
Sit right over there, 10 meters away, and I was just sitting
42:06
over here, I said. I do use downstairs.
42:08
So. Time to chase.
42:09
Well, the service for the Albaits and Islam could be
42:12
anywhere. You know Hamdala with this, with
42:15
this modern day technology. There's many ways where we could
42:19
Sherlock continues long way but long way it continues.
42:21
Charlotte it's it's been a pleasure having you here
42:25
honoring the podcast but said I want to ask you a question just
42:28
before we end off and it's I'll say $1,000,000 for you're from
42:31
the States what's your favorite out of Bahrain latmia this year
42:35
or last year any year one in particular.
42:40
The one with the last year was suffered and the law, OK.
42:46
I would have to say you know the one with the welcome with the
42:49
all languages. What is it called?
42:53
Willingly. Easy.
42:54
Welcome the One. Where he says NI hao, yeah,
42:56
yeah, yeah. So just to add to that by the
42:59
way, I saw the full version of this release on YouTube.
43:04
So before he gets to that point he speaks with the with the
43:06
crowd, you know with those who are doing as he goes.
43:09
Last year we were we were starting to suffer in the law
43:12
and everyone joined us on the journey to Karbala.
43:16
But this year we need to tell the world how should we do it.
43:20
Someone, someone's going to recommendations.
43:22
And then one of them was this recommendation.
43:24
We told them Helen was Helen come to Iraq and in their
43:27
language yeah. So this was one of the ideas
43:30
that made just I'll say that this year for my Mahadir Biati
43:33
successful and it's amazing I forgot the title.
43:39
Of the welcome in all languages. It's really beautiful when you
43:43
look at, you know, I'm looking at some pictures coming out of.
43:46
And you see different people. Yeah, So languages, they're all
43:50
united for the love of Abdul, that housing.
43:52
And that's just something so beautiful.
43:54
Yeah, said Ali. What was your favorite?
43:56
Why? Who?
43:56
I was gonna say suffer the law. Yeah, that.
43:58
Always says timeless. It still is.
44:01
Yes, it still is. Because every you know, every
44:03
word, every sentence, every person that locked me here.
44:06
Not you, said Jilney. Or Tissoroni.
44:08
No those. Are classics.
44:10
I was talking about the recent ones here, but see, I am Asafa.
44:13
Allah lives rent free in my head.
44:15
Yeah, yeah. This year has been a lot of
44:18
good, good content. When the Mohammed Janami had the
44:22
Bayards, he's obviously been killing it.
44:23
Mohammed Bo Jabata has been on fire this year.
44:27
We had a mother, Ali Mohammed, here in London, who was every
44:30
single night he. I did like 3 amazing and I don't
44:35
even speak Arabic and I'm falling in love with her.
44:37
It's a lot. Yeah, crazy beauty around us.
44:42
Thank you as always and thank you once again today and thank
44:44
you. We will be back next week in
44:46
Sharla. So stay tuned.
44:48
Hit that subscribe button and we will see you there.