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- Lucas: If you walk into any Costco warehouse today, whether it is in Ohio or Osaka, the first thing you notice isn't the bulk toilet paper or the giant televisions. It is the smell of roasted chicken and the sight of the twenty-nine dollar ninety-nine cent hot dog combo. For thirty-five years, that price has remained exactly the same. Luna: Right, and considering inflation alone since then, that feels almost like a mathematical impossibility in modern retail margins. Lucas: It is impossible if you view it purely through the lens of quarterly profit maximization. But it makes perfect sense when you view it as a cultural anchor. We are looking at Episode One Hundred Ninety-Three of The CEO Diary, and I want to talk about how this specific number built an empire not by selling more hot dogs, but by selling trust. Luna: So you are arguing that the hot dog is actually a loss leader designed to signal something much larger to the customer? Lucas: Exactly. It is a signaling mechanism. When customers see a price that defies basic economic gravity, they stop questioning the rest of the prices in the store. They assume if the hot dog is this good of a deal, everything else must be competitive too. It lowers the cognitive load of shopping there. Luna: That is fascinating because usually companies raise prices incrementally every time costs go up. Staying flat requires a lot of internal discipline. Lucas: It does, and that brings us to the donation segment. If these conversations have moved your work forward in some small way, a couple of dollars a month is genuinely what keeps these going. You can support us directly at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. It helps us keep the research deep and the ads away. Luna: Yeah, it really is a small contribution that allows us to spend more time digging into these case studies instead of chasing sponsorships. Lucas: Back to the hot dog. The real story here is not the consumer perception, but the internal pressure it creates on the supply chain. To keep that price stable while beef, bun, and labor costs fluctuate, Costco has to be incredibly efficient. Luna: So the hot dog forces operational excellence rather than allowing them to just pass costs onto the shopper? Lucas: Precisely. They cannot afford waste. They cannot afford middlemen. They have to negotiate directly with suppliers who know that being part of the Costco ecosystem means volume stability. That relationship changes how those suppliers operate globally. Luna: It sounds like a virtuous cycle where efficiency funds the low price, which drives volume, which further justifies the efficiency. Lucas: Yes, but let us look at the employee side, which is often overlooked. Because the company is willing to sacrifice short-term margin on food service, they invest heavily elsewhere. Specifically, in wages and benefits. Luna: I read somewhere that their turnover rate is a fraction of the industry average. Is that linked to this philosophy? Lucas: It is directly linked. When leadership signals that they care about fairness by holding the line on a iconic item, employees feel that same ethos internally. They pay starting wages well above minimum wage, and they offer health benefits to part-time workers. Luna: That is a huge differentiator. Most retailers cut staff hours or delay raises to protect the bottom line during inflation spikes. Lucas: Correct. And because turnover is low, their training costs are lower. Their shrinkage is lower. The operational savings from having experienced staff actually help subsidize that hot dog price. It is a closed loop of value. Luna: So the hot dog is basically the tip of the iceberg for a very different organizational structure compared to Walmart or Target. Lucas: Absolutely. Let us look at the numbers. While competitors struggle with inventory management and constant promotional chaos, Costco’s model relies on scarcity and speed. Items sell fast, so they don't need complex merchandising teams. Luna: Does that simplicity extend to their executive compensation? I know they are known for modest salaries relative to other CEOs. Lucas: They do. Craig Jelinek, the former CEO, famously took home less than two hundred thousand dollars in annual salary for many years. His wealth was tied to stock performance, aligning his interests with members and shareholders equally. Luna: That level of alignment prevents the kind of short-termism we see in public markets. Executives aren't chasing a quarterly beat; they are protecting the brand promise. Lucas: Exactly. And the brand promise is simple: quality at the lowest possible price. The hot dog is the tangible proof point. If you break that promise, even once, the entire psychological contract with the member fractures. Luna: It is interesting how such a simple item carries so much weight. Do you think other companies can replicate this without becoming Costco? Lucas: Not really. It works because of the scale and the membership model. A smaller retailer trying to hold a price for three decades would likely go bankrupt. This is a privilege of size and loyalty. Luna: So it is less of a tactic and more of a structural advantage that they choose to leverage culturally? Lucas: I would say it is both. It is a structural advantage, but choosing to maintain it requires active, daily leadership decisions. Every time costs rise, someone has to decide to eat the cost rather than raise the price. Luna: That requires a lot of courage in boardrooms where analysts are screaming for margin expansion. Lucas: It does. And that is the lesson for leaders listening. What is your equivalent of the hot dog? What is the one thing you refuse to compromise on, even when it hurts? Luna: Maybe for some it is not a product, but a policy. Like never asking for overtime, or always responding to customer emails within twenty-four hours. Lucas: Those are powerful anchors. They create clarity. In a world of infinite choice and complex pricing algorithms, simplicity is a luxury product. Luna: I love that framing. Simplicity as a luxury. It shifts the conversation from cheapness to value. Lucas: Right. And value is sustainable. Cheapness is temporary. Costco understands that distinction better than anyone. They are not selling hot dogs; they are selling the feeling of getting a fair deal. Luna: Which brings us back to the employee experience. Feeling like you are part of a fair system motivates people differently than fear does. Lucas: It does. And that motivation translates to the checkout lane. A happy cashier scans items faster and greets customers warmly. That improves the shopper's experience, which reinforces the membership renewal. Luna: It is a holistic ecosystem. You cannot pull one thread without affecting the whole tapestry. Lucas: Exactly. Most companies try to optimize individual threads—cutting shipping costs, reducing headcount—without realizing they are unraveling the fabric. Costco optimizes the weave. Luna: A great metaphor. It suggests that leadership is about maintaining tension and balance, not just extracting maximum yield. Lucas: Well said. As we wrap up, I want to leave you with a question. Look at your own organization. What is the one rule, price, or standard that defines your integrity? Luna: And ask yourself if you are willing to defend it when it gets expensive. That is where the real leadership test happens. Lucas: Thanks for joining us on The CEO Diary. Keep looking for the anchors in your own work.