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Maximum Transparency, Ultimate Accountability · That KEVIN Show

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  Speaker 1: Somewhere in the vowels of the City that Never sleeps.
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  Speaker 2: Kevin McCullough, radio host with Salem Media.
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  Speaker 1: Is a man also not sleeping.
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  Speaker 3: Mccollor.
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  Speaker 5: It's Kevin McCullough Monday through Friday on That Kevin Show
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  Speaker 5: and now from the Connors in Sullivan Broadcast Studios. A
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  Speaker 5: man who is not what he wants to be, but
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  Speaker 5: is way grateful that is not who he used to be.
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  Speaker 2: Here, all right, welcome in. It's Kevin mchella. It's That
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Show. We've got a lot to get to and friends,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep harping on something that you know the
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  Speaker 2: President did yesterday. I was on Newsmax last night with
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  Speaker 2: Bill Spadia filling in for mister Henry, and at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the night, I still believe just as strongly
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  Speaker 2: today as I did yesterday that there is something very
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  Speaker 2: important happening with the President's shutting down the House and
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  Speaker 2: Senate passage of the housing legislation so that the most
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  Speaker 2: important thing can get pasted. And I don't know why, Cedar,
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  Speaker 2: why Leader John Thune is being the way he's being
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  Speaker 2: in the Senate. I was hopeful that he would be
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  Speaker 2: a stronger leader, I hope. I was hopeful that he
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  Speaker 2: would have a stronger idea of how to whip votes
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  Speaker 2: in his conference. What I'm what I'm basically learning is
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  Speaker 2: that we are we're we are watching fecklessness take a
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  Speaker 2: back seat to leadership. And I don't I don't like that.
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  Speaker 2: I want Senator Thune to explain to his caucus, especially,
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  Speaker 2: but to also modern sense Democrats, common sense Democrats, that
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  Speaker 2: by avoiding an easy vote on an eighty twenty issue
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  Speaker 2: with the electorate, that he is the embodiment of establishment
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  Speaker 2: dysfunction that elected President Trump in the first place. The
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  Speaker 2: reason why he won the last three elections is because
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  Speaker 2: of this type of behavior from John Thune, and the
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  Speaker 2: President understands that with the rise of the Communists in
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  Speaker 2: New York, with the rise of the Marxists in California,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to have wherever you can actually put partisanship
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  Speaker 2: in control and have one party rule, you're going to
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  Speaker 2: have people that rig the system. So you're going to
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  Speaker 2: have election months instead of election day, and there'll be
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  Speaker 2: no cutoff for when ballots need to be in by
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  Speaker 2: They'll just keep counting and counting and counting and counting
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  Speaker 2: and counting. And the President, by doing what he's done
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  Speaker 2: in the last twenty four hours, has made an enormous
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  Speaker 2: statement of just how hard he's willing to fight to
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  Speaker 2: make sure we get clean and fair elections, and he's
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  Speaker 2: got an ally or two that are doing something about it.
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  Speaker 2: Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna says that the House will hold
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  Speaker 2: up every piece of legislation until the Save America Act passes.
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  Speaker 2: On their side of the representative bodies, the Senate, all
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  Speaker 2: the pressures coming down on Senator Thune and the Republicans
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  Speaker 2: and the few common sense Democrats that we can and
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  Speaker 2: John Fetterman's willing to vote with us on this is
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  Speaker 2: this is an eighty twenty issue. Democrats, Independents, and Republicans
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  Speaker 2: all want it. But Congresswoman Luna was asked some very
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  Speaker 2: pointed questions, and I thought gave some good answers earlier today.
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  Speaker 6: Get a long supporter of the Save America Act. We
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  Speaker 6: know the issues in the Senate with the few senators
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  Speaker 6: that are not voting for it. Why shut the floor down?
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  Speaker 7: What's there so they're not going to be able to
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  Speaker 7: do it in reconciliation the Senate over a bill and
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  Speaker 7: the House leadership actually suspended our rules, meaning they changed
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  Speaker 7: it to where they knew they didn't have the votes
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  Speaker 7: on this parliamentary procedure because there is a group of
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  Speaker 7: Republicans rightfully, so they're saying that we're not going to
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  Speaker 7: pass the Senate legislation for their mid term you know,
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  Speaker 7: campaign promises to their people, because we know that they're
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  Speaker 7: lying on the back end and not passing an eighty
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  Speaker 7: twenty issue that the American people, whether you're Democrat, Republican
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  Speaker 7: or independent, overwhelmingly want, and so in us shutting down
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  Speaker 7: the floor a it's showing that they're not going to
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  Speaker 7: be able to get done what they want to get done.
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  Speaker 7: And I really applaud the President for saying that he's
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  Speaker 7: not going to sign it into law. I think that
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  Speaker 7: he reserves the right to veto, and either which way,
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  Speaker 7: you can see that Foon is kind of squirming right now.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 7: I want to warn the American people that you cannot
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  Speaker 7: place Save America Act on reconciliation. It's not possible to
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  Speaker 7: be done. So we're not drinking the kool aid on that.
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  Speaker 7: Unless the Senate decides to fire the parliamentarian, nothing will change.
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  Speaker 7: And so they don't get to go home and say
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  Speaker 7: that they're getting wins for the American people when they're
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  Speaker 7: not even able to deliver on an eighty twenty issue.
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  Speaker 6: What's going on in terms of that judge that rule
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  Speaker 6: that you cannot require proof of citizenship to register to vote.
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  Speaker 6: Does that play into the fact that there could be
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  Speaker 6: a legal challenge on the same game.
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  Speaker 7: Maybe, but it doesn't mean that you don't do anything.
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  Speaker 7: And I think that it should be right for the
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  Speaker 7: courts to actually rule this. Every other country in the world,
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  Speaker 7: for the most part, requires voter ID. You have to
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  Speaker 7: have literally, I mean you saw at the Barack Obama Library.
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  Speaker 7: You have to have an idea to get in, and
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  Speaker 7: yet they're saying that it's racist. I mean, that's so
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  Speaker 7: entirely toned up here. I'm Hispanic, I'm a Female'm the veteran.
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  Speaker 7: I literally check all the boxes.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not dumb.
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  Speaker 7: I can figure out how to get proof of you know,
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  Speaker 7: citizenship and also voter idea to go vote. So it's
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  Speaker 7: just it's a retarded argument.
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  Speaker 6: And what do you think of the senators who are
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  Speaker 6: the holdouts on the Save America Act? Why do you
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  Speaker 6: think they're not getting behind this in the Senate and
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  Speaker 6: pushing it forward.
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  Speaker 7: Well, there's zero reason because eighty percent, as CNN had stated,
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  Speaker 7: want this to be done. Okay, so there's no reason
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  Speaker 7: I would start looking into who they're taking money from
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  Speaker 7: and if it's a corruption issue. But what I will
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  Speaker 7: say is that if Food would embrace the talking filibuster,
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  Speaker 7: change the parliamentary if we could get it done. And
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  Speaker 7: he's not, so you should ask yourself why is a
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  Speaker 7: Senate Republican not doing his job. The President's been very clear.
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  Speaker 7: The President did the right thing by removing the signing.
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  Speaker 7: He's not playing these games anymore. And I'm going to
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  Speaker 7: fully back them, and I have the books to do it.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So that's Congresswoman Ana Luna, and she's going
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  Speaker 2: to keep the House from being able to conduct business
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  Speaker 2: until this is addressed. And friends, this may be the
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  Speaker 2: fight of the lifetime when it comes to the most
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  Speaker 2: important political issue of our time. If you do not
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  Speaker 2: have an election that you trust, there is no use
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  Speaker 2: in even having elections. If you cannot trust the verification
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  Speaker 2: of who's voting, and if you cannot demonstrate that you
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  Speaker 2: have integrity in that process, there's nothing about the process
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  Speaker 2: that's worth holding onto that's genuinely true. And that's why
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  Speaker 2: a housing bill that may or may not help people,
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  Speaker 2: and interest rate other things, none of that matters. The
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  Speaker 2: people that are supposedly passing laws may not even be
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  Speaker 2: lawfully elected to pass them. And this is why the
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  Speaker 2: President is so determined to see this happen. And I
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  Speaker 2: back him one thousand percent on this. This is not
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  Speaker 2: this is not something that persecutes one group of people
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  Speaker 2: over another. Every voter demographic, Democrat, independence, Republicans all say
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  Speaker 2: that voter ID is a is a starter. It's eighty
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  Speaker 2: percent of the country wants it. Whichever political party you're in,
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  Speaker 2: and there's no other way of putting it. This is
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  Speaker 2: an issue literally that Senator thun is for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's because Mitch McConnell doesn't like Trump. Maybe it's
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  Speaker 2: because they're just people that are cranky in the Senate
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  Speaker 2: and they don't want to they don't want to see
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  Speaker 2: the President get a win. This will be one of
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  Speaker 2: the most monumental things he accomplishes when this passes, because
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  Speaker 2: it will save the future of elections. Elections will be
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  Speaker 2: much harder to play games with. And that's why people
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  Speaker 2: are fighting it so hard. That's why politicians are fighting
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  Speaker 2: it so hard. They like rigging the game. They like
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  Speaker 2: having the original count going on and on and on
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  Speaker 2: and on for weeks until you just somehow miraculously find
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  Speaker 2: enough votes to rub the Republican right out of the race.
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  Speaker 2: You just saw it happen in California. The whole nation
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  Speaker 2: watched it happen. In twenty twenty, we now have proof
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  Speaker 2: in the state of Georgia that it happened. You got
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  Speaker 2: to have only citizens voting, and only citizens who are
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  Speaker 2: registered to vote should be voting, and every voter should
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  Speaker 2: be able to prove who they are. It's just the starting.
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  Speaker 2: It's the bare minimum. Kevin mccalloch coming right back. It's
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  Speaker 2: that Kevin show.
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  Speaker 1: Here he is from New York.
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  Speaker 2: Kevin McCullough all right, welcome man, It's Thursday. We've got
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  Speaker 2: a big show yet to come. Lots of news and
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  Speaker 2: breaking stuff to talk about, and you know, the Spreme
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  Speaker 2: Court is supposed to be handing stuff down. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: hopefully get to cover some of that before the day
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  Speaker 2: is done. But Andrew Columbia is back with us in
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  Speaker 2: our segment called how do We Live? And this is
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  Speaker 2: the segment where we stop everything else and we ask
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  Speaker 2: this big question before we move on to anything else,
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  Speaker 2: and that is very simply, how do we live if
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  Speaker 2: we are people of Jesus, if we are God's people?
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  Speaker 2: How do we live in a culture that dislikes him,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes hates him, sometimes is hostile towards him, also his
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  Speaker 2: word and sometimes us. How do we go about constructing
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  Speaker 2: our life so that we are on mission, doing the
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  Speaker 2: gospel and doing what is most beneficial for those around us.
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  Speaker 2: That's kind of the questions that we're asking in these
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  Speaker 2: segments each day. And we've been in Romans thirteen this week.
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  Speaker 2: And Andrew is the senior pastor at Mount Carmel Bible
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  Speaker 2: Church in Mount Carmel, New York. Andrew former NYPD as well,
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  Speaker 2: Government relating to the believer and the believer relating to
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  Speaker 2: government is always seemingly a controversial subject. I was just
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  Speaker 2: on a call yesterday with some staff members who are
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  Speaker 2: talking to some pastors about becoming partners with the show.
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  Speaker 2: And there's actually pastors that are a little bit afraid
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  Speaker 2: of talking about public policy or some of the things
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  Speaker 2: that our culture faces. But the church is meant to
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  Speaker 2: be salty, aren't we? So that brings us to verse
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  Speaker 2: four today.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, Kevin, let's let's dive right in looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, all.
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  Speaker 8: Right, Roman's thirteen four For he is God's servant to
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  Speaker 8: you for good, but if you do wrong, you should
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  Speaker 8: be afraid. But he does not carry the executioner's sword
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  Speaker 8: for nothing. Is God's servant and avenger who brings punishment
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  Speaker 8: on the wrong doer.
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  Speaker 1: So what's the key thought there?
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  Speaker 8: I read it from the amplified version. It means this
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  Speaker 8: that the civil authority is God's servant to you for good,
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  Speaker 8: but also an avenger who brings punishment on the wrong doer.
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  Speaker 8: And you mentioned something earlier, Kevin, about the culture of
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  Speaker 8: our nation and especially the younger generation today, understand authority
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  Speaker 8: correctly and what it means to be corrected and and
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  Speaker 8: to have someone in a position over you that has
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  Speaker 8: the ability to lead you in that right direction.
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  Speaker 2: That's important. And I think that's a problem with the
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  Speaker 2: culture today. Well, so we're we're always wanting to be
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  Speaker 2: relevant and on a practical matter, Andrew, there's this element
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  Speaker 2: that we can we can have of the right mindset.
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  Speaker 2: We can in our heart say we're going to harbor
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  Speaker 2: the right feeling and desire to do the right thing.
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  Speaker 2: It is another thing for us to actually live this out.
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  Speaker 2: And as it pertains to today's verse, sometimes I feel
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  Speaker 2: like government doesn't want to do what is good for me.
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  Speaker 2: And I agree that we should. You know, if we
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  Speaker 2: choose to do wrong, criminals should fear justice. That's that's
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  Speaker 2: that's but I don't I don't consider that a bad thing.
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  Speaker 2: Like I think that that fear is restraining power against
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  Speaker 2: evil expanding in our culture. And when we understand our
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  Speaker 2: proper relationship to law, into the and to the legal
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  Speaker 2: authorities and to the government, we actually make society safer,
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  Speaker 2: and I think more god like in the process. Am
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  Speaker 2: I just completely out to launch on this.
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  Speaker 8: No, I think you're right on target, Kevin. I think
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  Speaker 8: that's so important that we understand. And yes, you know,
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  Speaker 8: I think the overarching theme here though again the word
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  Speaker 8: is always the foundational blueprint for the believer, is that
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  Speaker 8: it's part of God's restraining order against chaos. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: even though not old, governmental authority has good motives and
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  Speaker 8: intense maybe we can question it. A lot of people
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  Speaker 8: do on a regular basis.
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  Speaker 2: God is the one who established it, and.
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  Speaker 8: That's why even in throughout chapter thirteen of Romans he
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  Speaker 8: says that people in leadership are God's ministers. And again
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  Speaker 8: let's reflect on the fact that Paul wrote this during
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  Speaker 8: the Roman Empire and the reign of Nero, Right, So,
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  Speaker 8: I mean, that's pretty clear about divine order and the
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  Speaker 8: reason for governmental authority the way it's being purposed and
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  Speaker 8: phrased here in scripture in the proper Condott.
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  Speaker 2: Let's look at a few other insights that you've highlighted
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  Speaker 2: here about this verse, in particular the word word servant.
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  Speaker 2: I was just talking. I ran my oldest son to
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  Speaker 2: camp today where he's serving as a counselor. And we
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  Speaker 2: were talking about how the counselors in training are not
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  Speaker 2: allowed to be commanded by the counselors to help them
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  Speaker 2: with tasks. And I said, you know, if you are
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  Speaker 2: a servant leader to the counselors in training, they'll voluntarily
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  Speaker 2: want to help you with tasks. And I was talking
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  Speaker 2: about the idea of servant leadership. But that word servant
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  Speaker 2: is used a lot. Paul uses it a lot, Jesus
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  Speaker 2: used it a lot. This is an important concept for us,
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  Speaker 2: But he actually calls government, the civil authority, God's servant
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  Speaker 2: to us. What does he mean with that word here? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's great.
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  Speaker 1: Again.
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  Speaker 8: From the Greek, the word means a minister and attendant,
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  Speaker 8: one who serves with a purpose. And that is so
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  Speaker 8: important that we understand God's moral purposes again which we
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  Speaker 8: mentioned several times already, by protecting good and restraining evil.
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  Speaker 8: You know, I think when it comes to biblical framework,
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  Speaker 8: Christians fall short in concepts. In other words, when someone
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  Speaker 8: would ask me this question, what does it mean to
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  Speaker 8: be a Christian? How would I answer that? How would
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  Speaker 8: I respond? What does the Bible teach us about that?
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  Speaker 8: I use three words. When someone asks me, what does
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  Speaker 8: it mean to be a Christian? Well, it means that
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  Speaker 8: I'm an ambassador for the Kingdom of God.
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  Speaker 1: I represent the Kingdom.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a stewart.
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  Speaker 8: Everything I own belongs to God and I steward it
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  Speaker 8: for his purposes. And I'm a servant. I'm called to
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  Speaker 8: serve others. Jesus modeled servant leadership at its best. Paul
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  Speaker 8: follows Jesus. He says, follow me as I follow Christ.
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  Speaker 8: We see this model in Scripture, and I think understanding
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  Speaker 8: the proper framework of our identity as Christians gives us
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  Speaker 8: better insight to using this text properly and in applying
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  Speaker 8: it to our lives. Because you know, when we read Scripture,
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  Speaker 8: it's not just information, it's revelation that we are to
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  Speaker 8: apply to our lives.
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  Speaker 1: So how do we apply it?
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  Speaker 8: You know, read, reflect, respond upon it, and apply it.
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  Speaker 8: That's important. So it's that biblical blueprint and framework that
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  Speaker 8: we need to grab hold of as of identity in Christ.
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  Speaker 2: That's how I see it. Yeah. Verse four also says
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  Speaker 2: that for those who do wrong, he God's God himself
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  Speaker 2: does not carry the executioner's sword for nothing. I mean
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  Speaker 2: that sounds intimidating it's supposed to.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, I mean sword is makira a short sword
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  Speaker 8: a symbol of real enforcement. Authority without consequence becomes suggestion,
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  Speaker 8: and that's so important.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I was a police officer. I wore a uniform,
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  Speaker 2: a badge, a gun, I.
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  Speaker 8: Had a belt with different pieces of equipment on that belt.
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  Speaker 8: Those that uniform that authority had power to be executed
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  Speaker 8: that went along with it. So it's important that we
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  Speaker 8: understand that governing authorities do have power.
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  Speaker 2: And again that's one of those that restrains bad and
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  Speaker 2: helps good prosper. But you also go on to say
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  Speaker 2: that the civil servant is also God servant. The verse
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  Speaker 2: says an avenger who brings punishment. Now an avenger, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I immediately think of Captain America and Iron Man, right?
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  Speaker 2: Is that this isn't far off from that? Actually? Is it?
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  Speaker 9: No?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 8: Why do people love these type of characters because they
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  Speaker 8: see the justice prevailing in the midst of great evil.
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  Speaker 8: And that word avenger in the Greek is ed decos,
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  Speaker 8: which means one who just executes justice or penalty. So
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  Speaker 8: Paul saying that government has a legitimate role in punishing
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  Speaker 8: evil it's important that we understand that a lot of
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  Speaker 8: people don't have that framework or mindset when it comes
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  Speaker 8: to government. But that's what Paul is teaching us here.
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  Speaker 1: Through this verse.
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  Speaker 8: So God gives government authority to reward what is good,
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  Speaker 8: restrain what is evil, and preserve civil order. Without divine order,
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  Speaker 8: there's always chaos.
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  Speaker 2: And chaos is where the enemy thrives. So let me
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  Speaker 2: ask you this. All your years on the force and
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  Speaker 2: now you're in the pulpit, there's always these debates that
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  Speaker 2: people that I think are more theoretical and insulated in
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  Speaker 2: their style of living than most of us like to have.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they sit in their ivory towers, they discuss
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  Speaker 2: theories of law enforcement and laws and so forth. Does
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  Speaker 2: the enforcement of law truly help reduce crime?
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  Speaker 8: In my perspective from my experience as a police officer
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  Speaker 8: and pastor and chaplain. Absolutely, And again, you know, we
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  Speaker 8: see in scripture there's examples of the Roman centurion, who
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  Speaker 8: was someone in authority who governed over people who are
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  Speaker 8: not his own people. He governed over Jews, but because
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  Speaker 8: of the way he exercised his authority in a good way,
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  Speaker 8: honoring their God, we see that they came under his
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  Speaker 8: authority and served him well.
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  Speaker 2: So when you know how to.
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  Speaker 8: Use authority correctly and you stand for justice and righteousness,
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  Speaker 8: there is responsibility, power, and execution that is exhibited through that.
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  Speaker 2: That's through my well. You actually say, when government protects
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  Speaker 2: life and punishes crime, and defends the innocid and promotes justice,
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  Speaker 2: it is operating within its God given lane. And that
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: might be a very pagan government that doesn't even acknowledge him.
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  Speaker 2: But if they're doing those things, they're doing God's will
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  Speaker 2: for the people because it is the right thing. All right,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: We've got a lot more to get to on tomorrow's
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: big Weekend, a week ending edition of How Do We Live?
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: We'll look at verse five. But Andrew Columbia, thank you
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: for all that you've done this week. We appreciate it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Kevin, it's been a pleasure. You got it.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Kevin McCulloch coming right back from Times Square.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Don't go out, stick around for more than Kevin.
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  Speaker 10: Next here he is from New York.
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  Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, Kevin McCullough. Glad to have you
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: with us. We have much to get to on the show.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: In fact, coming up the top of the next hour.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I've got another headline that really should have been bantied
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: far and wide. It wasn't, but I will because I
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: think it's that important. So that's a little bit of
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: a hint a mystery. Come join us as we're kicking
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: off a brand new week. I just want you to
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: remember the kids in the Agent Tree camping program, and
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I'm asking for your help. I'm asking for your help
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  Speaker 2: to bless the child. I'm asking for your help to
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  Speaker 2: bless the mom and dad. The moms and dads in
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: this scenario are interesting because they're obviously flawed people. They
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: ended up in prison, but they are also seeking redemption
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  Speaker 2: in that they have gone through the prison Fellowship discipleship program,
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  Speaker 2: the Bible study program, and upon completion of that, they
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  Speaker 2: have been given the opportunity to nominate their child for
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  Speaker 2: a week of camp. Now, not all prisoners do it.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Some have a lot of shame still attached to what
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: they're dealing with, and they don't. But the parents that
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  Speaker 2: have have specifically nominated their children because there's two things
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  Speaker 2: that they want out of this. They want their child
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: to find the same Jesus that they have found, and
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: they want their child to know that their mom and
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: dad have thought of them, and the only way that
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  Speaker 2: they get to have Angel Tree Camp these kids is
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  Speaker 2: if mom and dad do this. Please go to that
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  Speaker 2: Kevinshow dot com. Please click the banner at the top
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  Speaker 2: of the page. Please be as generous as you can.
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  Speaker 2: There's no random company out there looking for, you know,
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  Speaker 2: children of convicts that are just putting people on buses
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  Speaker 2: and sending them to camp. This is a very personal,
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  Speaker 2: one on one parent to child gift that you get
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  Speaker 2: to facilitate in the process of your gift. And I
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  Speaker 2: just want you to imagine what it's like to join
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  Speaker 2: my campaign and send prisoners kids for a week of fun,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: fresh air, Christ centered activities, life transformation in terms of recreation,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: but relationships, counselors, fellow campers. So go to that kevinshow
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  Speaker 2: In the short time I've been telling you about it,
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  Speaker 2: We've sent over fifty seven children to camp this month,
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  Speaker 2: but I've got about another one hundred and a couple
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  Speaker 2: still waiting. Every year, Angel Try Camp gets these kids
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  Speaker 2: out of bed, out of bad neighborhoods, and away from
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  Speaker 2: gangs and drugs and whisks them out into the fresh air.
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  Speaker 2: They get to experience what it is to be around
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  Speaker 2: Christian counselors and adults and people that are wise, and
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: they so desperately need this interaction. The transformation that can
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: happen in only one week of camp is really heartwarming,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: and you're wondering how much impact your donation might have. Well,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: listen to the words of a friend from fellow Prison Fellowship.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: David moy is one of the people at Prison Fellowship,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: and he had these thoughts about what it means.
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  Speaker 11: You know, I gave my life to Christ when I
• 24:59
  Speaker 11: was a teenager at it Christian camp, so I personally
• 25:01
  Speaker 11: know the power of what God can do at camp.
• 25:03
  Speaker 11: I mean, you can only do three things as your money.
• 25:05
  Speaker 11: You can spend it, you can save it, or you
• 25:06
  Speaker 11: can give it. And I think giving it to an
• 25:09
  Speaker 11: angel Tree camping scholarship is going to be the best
• 25:12
  Speaker 11: week of somebody's year. It's going to be a break
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  Speaker 11: from chaos that they wouldn't otherwise have. And that's money
• 25:18
  Speaker 11: money well given, moneymil well spent.
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  Speaker 2: I really think it is. If you're talking about return
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  Speaker 2: on investment in terms of the amount of change and
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  Speaker 2: impact you have on the life of the child. A
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  Speaker 2: scholarship funded by a gift from you will bless one
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  Speaker 2: kid with an entire week of Angel Tree Camp. Your
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: donation of two hundred dollars, and if you need to
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: make that in a single gift, or you need to
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: make it in two months at one hundred dollars each,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: or four months at fifty dollars each, whatever you need
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: to do, but a two hundred dollars gift from you
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: will combine to get these kids to camp. But you'll
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: be sending a full child yourself with your two hundred
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: dollars gift, And we need to do this. Time is
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: running out, obviously, we've hit June. The camping season is
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  Speaker 2: upon us. We want to make sure that we get
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: all the kids there that we can. Please go to
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  Speaker 2: that kevinshow dot com. Please click the banner at the
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: top of the page. Please be as generous as you can,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: and once again that Kevinshow dot com. The Angel Tree banner.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: It's it's at the top, it's it's animated so it
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  Speaker 2: looks like a little cartoon. Just click on that, click
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  Speaker 2: through give your gift. It takes two minutes to do
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  Speaker 2: and friends, I kid you not, this will be one
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: of the most meaningful things, if not the most meaningful
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: thing that will happen to the child that receives it
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: for the whole year that they wouldn't they wouldn't have
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: any other concept of what summer would be like if
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: you don't get them to Angeltree camp. And the idea
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: that we can do that and bless them in this
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: way is just truly astounding. So please go and make
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: the call right now. I'm sorry, don't make the call.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Go to the website that kevinshow dot com, that kevinshow
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  Speaker 2: dot com, that kevinshow dot com and click the banner
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  Speaker 2: at the top of the page. Hopefully they find the
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  Speaker 2: joy of Jesus in the process. Okay, friends, here's the
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  Speaker 2: number eighty eight two O six two seven ninety four
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  Speaker 2: You can also give online at that kevinshow dot com.
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  Speaker 2: Click the Angel Tree banner at the top of the page.
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  Speaker 2: Eighty eight two O six two seven nine four triple
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  Speaker 12: Right back here.
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  Speaker 1: He is from New York that Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to That Kevin Show, That Kevin Show dot
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• 28:25
  Speaker 2: trying to keep our eye on as many important issues
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: across the board as we can. Sometimes it's the top
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: headline of the day. Sometimes it's stuff that's buried in
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: the back pages where the mainstream media will never cover it.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: And in the twenty twenty four election, one of the
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: things that I think I singularly harped on that very
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: few did in the media is the whole issue of
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: protecting our daughters, protecting their safe spaces, protecting the integrity
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: of their lives through having agency over themselves, and what
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: that means when you're coming in up against this gender
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: ideal stuff that has really seemed to sweep the nation,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: and you know, everybody thought, well, getting Trump elected would
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: solve it. He has certainly helped. He's done everything that
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: he can as the president to lean and kind of
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: lead in the right direction. But there are still states
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: that are not There are still municipalities that are choosing
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: to be obstinate about this and near Judishpende rejoins us
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: from the Independent Women's Forum to discuss all of this.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: It's good to see you. You're telling me in the
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: break that the problem now is New Mexico. What are
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: the New Mexican state authorities doing?
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so New Mexico has all sorts of policies as
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: many blue states do, that you know, essentially allows schools
• 29:48
  Speaker 9: and in some ways almost not quite mandate but quasi
• 29:53
  Speaker 9: mandate to just let the school trans kids behind parents' backs.
• 30:00
  Speaker 9: Have these sorts of policies on the books that allow
• 30:04
  Speaker 9: schools to just.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Get get away with that sort of thing.
• 30:08
  Speaker 9: And then you know, you also have just a failure
• 30:11
  Speaker 9: to protect women's spaces, a failure to protect girl spaces,
• 30:15
  Speaker 9: a failure to protect children.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: And ultimately, I mean the.
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: Schools there are really not doing well to begin with.
• 30:23
  Speaker 9: They are ranked at the very very bottom and education,
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: so you have to wonder, you know, why are the
• 30:29
  Speaker 9: school focusing on trans and kids and you know, promoting
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: this ridiculous ideology when they should.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Be teaching kids how to read and focusing on that.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: As someone who watches education closely across the country, what
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: is your answer to that question? Why are they doing it?
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: What would they say is the reason for emphasizing that
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: using state resources on that, using time and money on that,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: as opposed to helping their kids do better on reading
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: and writing and science and history.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: I think it's ideology.
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: I think it's that there's a few committed ideologues sitting
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: in these schools. I don't think most teachers are activists.
• 31:12
  Speaker 9: I don't think most teachers are even necessarily hyper liberal.
• 31:16
  Speaker 9: I don't think most constituents agree. In fact, Independent Women
• 31:19
  Speaker 9: has done a lot of polling that shows that, you know,
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: most New Mexicans do not want kids transd without parental
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: consent in schools.
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  Speaker 4: But what's happening is that, you know, you have a
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: small minority.
• 31:34
  Speaker 9: Of activists, and those activists just control everything.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: They dominate everything.
• 31:39
  Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know, if you saw the New
• 31:40
  Speaker 9: York elections a couple of days ago, yes, yeah, I mean,
• 31:46
  Speaker 9: oh yeah.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're yeah.
• 31:48
  Speaker 9: I mean it's crazy, right, Like you have these insane
• 31:51
  Speaker 9: socialists being elected to power, are almost elected. I think
• 31:56
  Speaker 9: there are some primaries that are effectively going to go
• 31:58
  Speaker 9: to Democrats and the but you have these you have
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  Speaker 9: these completely insane people, and I mean the majority of
• 32:07
  Speaker 9: New york Is didn't vote for that, right, you know,
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  Speaker 9: you actually it's there's still a lot of normal people
• 32:14
  Speaker 9: who don't want that, who don't want crazy socialists running everything,
• 32:18
  Speaker 9: but unfortunately they're loud, and whoever's loudest wins.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that's really what's happened in New Mexico.
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  Speaker 2: But at some point, you're just there's got to be
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: like a baseline of fact that we all start with.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: And the truth is, you can't change a chromosome that
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: is coded the way it's coded. And whatever else you
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: do to the body, however else you want to change it,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: the chromosome in itself you cannot change. And at the
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: end of the day, that's what determines who and what
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: we are.
• 32:48
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I entirely agree, and I mean I think we
• 32:52
  Speaker 9: are unfortunately a post fact society. We're also increasingly a
• 32:57
  Speaker 9: post literate society, which you know, people, you know, I
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: in New Mexico is certainly not doing a good job
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  Speaker 9: at that either.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it's not I'm from.
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  Speaker 2: Massa stupid and keep the population uneducated and then we
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: can do whatever we want to to them.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: I don't even know if it's that. I don't think
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: it's even that deliberate.
• 33:13
  Speaker 9: I just think, you know, I mean I'm from Massachusetts,
• 33:15
  Speaker 9: which actually does have very good schools despite them being
• 33:18
  Speaker 9: like off the rails crazy, and so one thing I've
• 33:20
  Speaker 9: noticed is that people have just got in I mean
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: more dumbed down, even very very smart people. And I
• 33:26
  Speaker 9: don't just mean like credential people. I mean people who
• 33:27
  Speaker 9: I actually consider intelligent, who who do know things about
• 33:31
  Speaker 9: the world, who do read, who do you know, like,
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: we're good people. But this ideology, it's so it's so
• 33:38
  Speaker 9: brain rotting. I think ultimately, you know, you're told to
• 33:42
  Speaker 9: just not believe you're lying eyes and at some point
• 33:45
  Speaker 9: that starts to drive you crazy.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: And I think it's the fear that they're also going
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: to be slandered, that you're going to be called a bigot,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: that you're going to be in some way perceived as hateful,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: regardless of fact, like you don't hate anybody. In fact,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: my desire to have a boy free bathroom for my
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: daughter stems out of great love for my daughter. I'm
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: sorry that the boy has confusion and misunderstanding of what
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: he perceives himself to be. Not my daughter's problem, nor
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: should it be any other daughter's problem.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: No, And it's also not compassionate for the boy.
• 34:18
  Speaker 9: Right, it's not compassionate to I mean, they call it
• 34:21
  Speaker 9: gender affirming care, right, we need to affirm these kids,
• 34:25
  Speaker 9: but you're actually just affirming a falsehood.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: That's just lying there. You can't affirm something that's false.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Whatf has done too with the work with the D
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: transitioners is that you guys have exposed the reality that
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: the gender affirming side of the equation pushes people into
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: the transition transition, transition transition. But if they have a
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: qualumn of conscience, if they have a moment of the
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: way they say I'm not sure about this anymore, I'm
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: not sure I want to do this, there is zero
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: help getting them back to base level. And and that's
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: where I think this is so insidious, because once you
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: introduce hormones and puberty blockers and surgeries and other things,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: you have now begun to permanently scar their biology in
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: ways that has life long consequences to it. I just
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: think that's criminal.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 35:19
  Speaker 9: But I mean, on a hopeful note, you know, Texas
• 35:23
  Speaker 9: has now opened the first D transitioner clinic, so they're
• 35:28
  Speaker 9: trying to actually, you know, put funds and research and
• 35:32
  Speaker 9: medical care toward the care of D transitioners.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: I think you know every state.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right near to Diishbrande. I always appreciate your contributions.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Thank you for being here.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having me.
• 35:45
  Speaker 12: Got it.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Kevin mckellaugh coming back from New York.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Don't go away, stick around for more fat Kevin next.
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  Speaker 13: Serving it up. It's a no drink minim. It's that
• 36:09
  Speaker 13: Kevin that show.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: All right, Kevin kellas, I'd have you with us. It's
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: that Kevin show, that kevinshow dot com for everything related,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: including helping us get these final kids. There are now
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: forty seven that still need someone to speak for them
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: for summer camp, and we have through the end of
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: the week. Friends, we could do this. We could do this.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: We are within range. If just forty seven people listening
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: to the sound of my voice would say, I'll take
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: care of one child, I'll get one child to camp,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: we could do this. We could actually do this. It
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: looked like when we were early on that we weren't
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: going to come anywhere near our goal because they had
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: some broken phone lines and there were some other problems.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: But friends, you've made a valiant effort and now there
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: are one hundred and fifteen kids that are going to
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: summer camp, and we're so grateful for that, but that
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: means there are forty seven that have not been spoken for,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: forty seven children whose parents are in prison that will
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: not get to experience a week of Christian camp where
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: the gospel will be presented to them, where they will
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: have the chance to make friends, friends who understand and
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: can identify with what they're going through in life because
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: they're going through the same thing. And counselors at the
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: camp that formerly were Angel Tree kids and know what
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: these kids are going through and loving on them and
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: answering their questions and helping them and forming lifelong relationships
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: with them. Friends. Here, my sixteen year old who's a
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: counselor this year at a Christian camp. He just started
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: and he came home. He came home the other day
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: after the first day of camp and I said what
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: was it like? And he said, Dad, I felt so good.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: And I said, why do you feel good? He goes
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: because there was a kid who was really sad and
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: he had lost his backpack and we were everybody was,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: you know, uh, pretty busy and everything else. He said,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: I just took the time and I walked around with
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: him and I helped him find it and I found
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: it and we found the backpack and he said thank
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: you to me, and he was so grateful and it
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: just it just changed his whole day. He said, Dad,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: that's why I do camp. Friends, the counselors at the
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Angel Tree Camp are like that on steroids. These kids
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: didn't lose backpacks. They've lost their lives. Their parents are
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: in prison, and the counselors are walking around loving on them,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: praying with helping them understand what the gospel means for them,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: introducing them to Jesus, helping them to find Jesus when
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: their parents have just found Jesus in prison and they
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: want and they want their kids to find Jesus. They
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: don't want, they don't want their kids to find Jesus
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: in prison. They want their kids to find Jesus out
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: of prison. And that's what the Angel Tree counselors are
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: helping them do. And friends, this is this is just
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: a life changing experience. And we had a list of
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty two names and there are forty
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: seven names left on that list. And we have today, Tomorrow, Saturday,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: and Sunday. We are done on Sunday, I need your
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: help now. I need your help to go and to
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: help a child get to camp. It is urgent that
• 39:21
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome man, Calvin mccallough. Glad you're with us.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: It is a busy, busy day, lots of Supreme Court
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  Speaker 2: decisions being handed down. Uh and right now it looks
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: like the Trump administration is having a very good season
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: at the Supreme Court. Let me just identify some of
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: the cases that he has won at the Supreme Court
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: in the last twenty four hours. Today, the Supreme Court
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: handing down two major immigration victories to the administration. One,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: in the Mullen versus Altro Lotto case, the Court held
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: that migrants who were turned away at the border before
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: entering the United States are in fact not entitled to
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: apply for asylum. Uh So, if you're if you have
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: to be turned away at the border before entering the
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  Speaker 2: un US, asylum does not apply to you. And that
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: that is that is that. In the second case, Mullen
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: versus do the Court ruled that Haitian and Syrian nationals
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: in the United States with temporary protected status are not
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: entitled to judicial relief postponing the revocation of their status
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: while they challenged the administration's efforts to revoke it in court.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: So these were two These two cases really identified kind
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: of stalling tactics that the that they had that they
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: had that they had put in place to try to
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: get more people here. And so you stall and then
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: you can bring more people and more people that qualify
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: under these situations can stay because they're in the class
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: action that's being held up. The Supreme Court said, nope, uh,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: this is very clear. You may be returned to your country.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: The Supreme Court also said last night, and this is
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: this is an even bigger win, that the administration is
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: not bound by a judge a lower court had put
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: in place, had blocked the executive branch's actions when the
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: when the administration had aliens who were so heinous, rapists, murderers,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: people committing homicide, people committing battery, committing people committing rape,
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: that when these people had committed these things and were
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: not here legally and they were so heinous that their
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: home country would not take them back, the president had
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: attempted to send them to third party places like the
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: prison in El Salvador or some places on the African
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: continent that have agreed to work with us and help us.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: The lower court said, no, that's that's that's cruel and unusual.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: You can't do that. But of course that court said
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: nothing about how cruel and unusual it was that these
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: people were coming here illegally and then committing murder and
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: rape and those types of things. So this is this
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: is the Supreme Court saying no, the President can send
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: them to a place to keep Americans safe that is
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: not their home country because their home country refuses to
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: take them, and he has the right to do that.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: That was last night. The Supreme Court has handed a
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: third or a fourth case down in just the last
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: few minutes that the President the administration is going to
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: be happy about. They ruled against the state of Hawaii,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: granting concealed carry holders a big victory in a Blue
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: State sixty three decision on Thursday. The Court sided with
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: the plaintiff in Wolford versus Lopez, who contested Hawaii state's
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: law requiring a property owner's explicit permission to allow gunful
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: lawful gun owners to bring firearms into public businesses. Hawaii's
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: law at issue here violates the constitutional right to keep
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: and bear arms, said Justice Samuel Alito. The regime, this
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: regime hobbles what the Second Amendment protects the right of
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Americans to carry arms for self defense as they go
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: about living their daily lives. This ruling reverses a decision
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: by the US Court of Appeals from the Ninth Circuit,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: which had upheld Hawaii's restrictions after the state enacted them
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: in response to the Supreme Courts twenty twenty two. Brewin decision,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Bruins struck down New York's proper cause licensing requirement and
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: held that Americans have a constitutional right to carry handguns
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: outside their home for self defense. Hawaii overhauled its firearm laws.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Among the new provisions was a requirement that concealed carry
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: permit holders could not bring firearms onto another person's private property,
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: including businesses open to the public. They said, no, if
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: the person has the right to conceal and carry their
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: weapon for personal protection, they have the right to do
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: that anywhere. And that is consistent with what that previous
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: case had said, and that is the Fourth Supreme Court.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: I would say Supreme Court win in the in the
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: you know, last two days that the President of the
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: administration has that that they have been the beneficiary of
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: because of the Court's decisions. And this is this is
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: really this is going to be a stream of these
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: here for the next little bit, because there there were
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: a lot of really hope, high profile cases that the
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: Court was going to need to decide and we're still
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: awaiting the decision on whether or not the word election
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: day in our in our founding documents means the word day,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: which you know states no, the word day didn't mean day,
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: it meant month, it meant season, it meant I don't
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: know a quarter of the year. Did election day mean day?
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Doesn't mean day? If it does, we're going to have
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: a lot of problems in places like La County, in
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: places like Dearborn, Michigan, and Detroit, Michigan. We're going to
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: have places like Cook County in Illinois. They're going to
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: be problematic. Minneapolis Saint Paul are going to have problems
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: because all of these places seem to want to interpret
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: election day as being some sort of amalgamation of time
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: that doesn't add up to twenty four hours. And the
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: whole purpose of an election is for candidates to campaign
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: so that on a given day and by a certain time,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: they earned the votes that are eligible to be earned,
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: and has nothing to do with did everybody in the
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: whole state vote that had the right to vote. If
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: people choose not to vote, that is a vote in
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: and of themselves. And then the other part of what
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about of legal voting reforms is we've got
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: to pass the Save America Act. If you pass the
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Save America Act and you have the Supreme Court come
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: back with day means day this country, including this year's elections,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: will look very different because only registered citizens will be voting.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: And that's what should happen. American citizens should be the
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: ones voting. Citizens registered, verifiable, we know their birth certificate,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: they had an ID when they went to the poll.
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: That's what elections should mean. That's what it means in Florida,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: by the way, And that's why they're able to count
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: the votes and have them counted in three and a
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: half hours after the polls close. This stretching it out
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: and taking forever and wasting time, being purposefully nebulous so
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: that you can, oh, well, maybe maybe some of the
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: mailing votes didn't come in yet. Too bad, you should
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: have sent them earlier. Election day means Day Save America
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: Act means be a citizen in order to get to vote.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: And you know what, eighty seven percent of Democrats, ninety
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: three percent of Independence, ninety five percent of Republicans all
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: want that standard Day means day. Citizen means citizen, and
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: one vote should mean one vote. Kevin mccalluch, very glad
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: to have you with us. Stick with us. We've got
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: a big hour. Stay here.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Here he is in New York. That Kevin McCullough.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Times Square. It's Kevin mccullaugh. It's that
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  Speaker 2: Kevin show. Glad you're with us. You know, I like
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: to keep you apprized of all things that are family
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: friendly and educational. And one of the things that I've
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: been doing like an addict this summer is watching historical
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: biographical documentaries. I've watched two or three things on Washington.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Of course, I've watched things on Hamilton and Jefferson and
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: the Founding Fathers. Several of the presidents I hadn't watched
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: anything on before Franklin Dolan, Roosevelt, Teddy Roosevelt, a number
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: of others in just the last few recent weeks because
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: in celebrating, in celebrating America two fifty, it's not just
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: the founding, it's also what's happened since then. But some
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: good friends of ours have decided they're also going to
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: tell more in depth detail about the founders and how
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: the country came to be. Kyle Justice and Sean Justice
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: are brothers, but they are part of two different media companies,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Compel Media and Justice Pictures, and they join us with
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: a very very cool idea called the Founder's Movie. If
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: you read my column or newsletter, you've already seen some
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: ads for this floating around. But Kyle and Sean welcome.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: It's good to have you at that Kevin show.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, Kevin. That's going to be here.
• 52:22
  Speaker 14: And we're actually twins four minutes apart, born on the
• 52:25
  Speaker 14: same day, and.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: The firstborn never fails to mention it minutes older than you.
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  Speaker 3: No.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: I think that my experience, though, guys, is not an
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: unusual one, at least for reflective people this year, because
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: the two fifty has really kind of opened up a
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: window of opportunity for people to be more curious about
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: what all this means. And where it came from. And
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: on the fourth of July, I'm going to watch the
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Armada boats go through you know, the Hudson River, and
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: we're going to review military boats and tall ship and
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: all kinds of things in remembrance of the Armada that
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: was parked out of New York when the Revolutionary War
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: first began. This is we stand on the shoulders of
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: greatness and of a history that was unlike anything else
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: in the world. What was your personal motivation for creating
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: The Founder's Movie?
• 53:21
  Speaker 14: You know, Kevin, our history is really amazing and how
• 53:25
  Speaker 14: God helped bring it about. You know, Divine intervention is
• 53:29
  Speaker 14: all over the place with Washington, with our whole.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: And he never failed to note it. By the way,
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: as well. He always took note of that and made
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: that a prominent part of what he discussed very much.
• 53:41
  Speaker 14: So, you know, even before the Revolution, the great awakening
• 53:45
  Speaker 14: that happened here in our country, it really provided a
• 53:49
  Speaker 14: bed of liberty, I guess you might say. And so
• 53:54
  Speaker 14: you know, when the British really decided they were going
• 53:57
  Speaker 14: to hone down on the colonies and get him an
• 54:00
  Speaker 14: the line, you know, it was that sense of freedom
• 54:04
  Speaker 14: and liberty and as far as this project, in the
• 54:08
  Speaker 14: last year or so, I've been working on another documentary
• 54:12
  Speaker 14: called Bidon's Early Light in connection with Vince Haley at
• 54:16
  Speaker 14: the Domestic Policy Council at the White House, and that
• 54:22
  Speaker 14: documentary came out a little less than a month ago.
• 54:26
  Speaker 14: But through that it really that whole documentary is about
• 54:31
  Speaker 14: our freedoms being encroached on by very liberal, very strong
• 54:37
  Speaker 14: leadership to really put out Christianity in our history of
• 54:42
  Speaker 14: our country. And so when working with Salem Media on
• 54:47
  Speaker 14: the distribution of that gentleman that I worked with there,
• 54:50
  Speaker 14: he was like, you know, what do you think about
• 54:54
  Speaker 14: a whole series on the Founders or a movie? And
• 54:58
  Speaker 14: I had been doing some work in AI. Sean, my
• 55:00
  Speaker 14: twin brother, has been doing work in AI, and it's
• 55:02
  Speaker 14: like boy, putting together like a docudrama where we're interviewing
• 55:08
  Speaker 14: the Founders based upon their writings, based upon different history
• 55:13
  Speaker 14: and historians. And the amazing thing about AI right now
• 55:19
  Speaker 14: is that you can it's getting far enough. You can't
• 55:22
  Speaker 14: necessarily produce entire feature films with it. But the idea
• 55:26
  Speaker 14: of a docu drama where you're interviewing and then you're
• 55:28
  Speaker 14: creating recreating scenes from battles to you know, the debates
• 55:35
  Speaker 14: in Continental Congress, to you know, what families are facing.
• 55:39
  Speaker 14: And I came to Sean and I said, Sehan, what
• 55:41
  Speaker 14: do you think And He's like, yeah, let's let's do that.
• 55:43
  Speaker 14: And so, you know, we started the Founder's Project. And
• 55:48
  Speaker 14: you know, part of the thing is we the people
• 55:50
  Speaker 14: is so ingrained in us, you know, insta in the constitution,
• 55:56
  Speaker 14: and so many people don't know about some of the
• 56:00
  Speaker 14: history and the different documents and the positions and the
• 56:05
  Speaker 14: struggles that happened with the founders that we wanted to
• 56:08
  Speaker 14: communicate that and so that started this process and we
• 56:13
  Speaker 14: put together a crowdfunding page to be able to bring
• 56:16
  Speaker 14: in people to say, hey, I'm going to be a
• 56:18
  Speaker 14: part of this. And you know, we the people want
• 56:21
  Speaker 14: to tell this story. Civics is and you know, history
• 56:26
  Speaker 14: and education, there's this whole new development of recreating it.
• 56:32
  Speaker 14: And it's like, no, we want to tell the original
• 56:34
  Speaker 14: history and what were the intent of the founders and
• 56:37
  Speaker 14: how can we be inspired today with what they stood
• 56:41
  Speaker 14: up for.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Sean, You've got a long history of production and direction
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: and feature films and so forth. What is it about
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: this project that personally connects with you and motivates you
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: to see to it that we hear this story of
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: the founders, maybe in a new way than they've ever
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: been told before.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:00
  Speaker 15: The beautiful thing about using the new tools that are
• 57:04
  Speaker 15: out there is, you know, most of the films I've
• 57:07
  Speaker 15: done our low budget or ultra low budget, you know,
• 57:10
  Speaker 15: faith based features, and you know, you're always limited by
• 57:15
  Speaker 15: your visions, always limited by your budget. You know, so
• 57:19
  Speaker 15: you have you know, two hundred men marching or whatever,
• 57:24
  Speaker 15: and you're like, okay, we had or you know, two
• 57:27
  Speaker 15: hundred people in a church. For instance, I had a
• 57:29
  Speaker 15: scene where I literally had to you know, focus my
• 57:32
  Speaker 15: camera on just a little part and then move everybody
• 57:35
  Speaker 15: over and shoot, you know, let's fix them up. But
• 57:40
  Speaker 15: with this new technology, we can our vision becomes of
• 57:45
  Speaker 15: a battle of with an independence hall, you know, the
• 57:50
  Speaker 15: men debating and stuff. It becomes very much exactly what
• 57:55
  Speaker 15: we imagine. So to me as a filmmaker, it's very
• 57:59
  Speaker 15: exciting to use the new tools to really bring to
• 58:04
  Speaker 15: life what happened at the time without being limited by
• 58:07
  Speaker 15: a budget or you know, by how many people you
• 58:10
  Speaker 15: can get together. You can just say, hey, you know,
• 58:14
  Speaker 15: program in you know, ten people and there aren't you know,
• 58:16
  Speaker 15: are you in or debating and then you give them
• 58:19
  Speaker 15: the lines and and you know, the vision that you
• 58:22
  Speaker 15: have comes to life in a way like we haven't
• 58:25
  Speaker 15: been able to do as independent filmmakers ever.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, a lot of the modern day documentaries use
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: draw upon, you know, original documents and even some classic
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: works of art, be it sketching or painting or whatever,
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: and then there's slow zooms in and pans out and
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: everything else. But it's not it's not interactive the way
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: you guys have envisioned this, and this is this is
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: really something that's going to break the barrier there. You
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: mentioned the crowdfunding aspect of this, Kyle h. What is
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: the what is the ETA of the delivery of the film?
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: What does it? What stories does it feature? Who are
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: the prominent characters in it? And how can people get
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: involved if they if they want to be part of this.
• 59:09
  Speaker 14: That's a load of question there.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: We try it. Yes, No, that's that's always on here,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: that's for sure.
• 59:18
  Speaker 14: You know, with the crowd funding, that is one big
• 59:22
  Speaker 14: aspect of the funding.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: You know, we're also.
• 59:26
  Speaker 14: Working with other groups to look into, you know, some
• 59:31
  Speaker 14: foundation to get behind it as well. As potential sponsors,
• 59:35
  Speaker 14: but that's a little later in this Crowdfunding is our
• 59:39
  Speaker 14: phase one, as it were. And but like Sean said,
• 59:43
  Speaker 14: we're not bound by you know, achieving a certain budget
• 59:47
  Speaker 14: to get started on this, and so that's exciting. And
• 59:51
  Speaker 14: as far as the main characters, we we kind of
• 59:54
  Speaker 14: picked ten main characters, you know, Washington, Adams, Mattison, and
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 14: there's John Jay, there's Roger Sherman. There's a bunch, and
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 14: we're working. We have a couple of experts. So Bill
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 14: Federer is a historian and he's agreed to work with us,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 14: and we've already kind of done some initial work with him.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 14: Tim Barton also is looking at the script and giving
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 14: us input and such. So you know, we're not just
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 14: winging it, you know, we're using experts to help us
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 14: make sure that the history we're telling is solid. And
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  Speaker 14: so what's interesting though, is we started looking to some
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  Speaker 14: of the founders. I started to kind of open up
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  Speaker 14: a little bit more and like, well, wait a minute,
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  Speaker 14: So King George he was kind of a founder because
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 14: not of our country, but he was one who kind
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  Speaker 14: of pushed, you know, our founders.
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  Speaker 2: To start Gatlasts for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And yeahs and antagonists.
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  Speaker 14: In film terms. But yeah, Gail Adams, you know who,
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  Speaker 14: who was very prolific in the letters between her and
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 14: her husband, you know, so using some of that context.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 14: So and then this family that we've introduced as well,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 14: that's a fictitious family. But there's a lot of writings
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 14: of different families that were part.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Of all drawn on real experience, but it's not necessarily
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: it is a fictitious family. We're speaking with Kyle and
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Sean Justice, twins that are serving as producers and directors
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: of the new film called The Founders, and we're going
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: to tell you how you can be involved. In just
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: a second, we've got to take a quick break. Be
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: right back.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: Let's stick around for more of than Kevin next.
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  Speaker 1: Here he is in New York exact Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back, Times Square, Kevin McCulla that kevinshow dot com.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Nothing's behind the paywall. We want you to have free
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: access to it all the time. Columns, podcast, TV shows,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: it's all there. Go and check it out that Kevinshow
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: dot com. We're speaking with Kyle and Sean Justice, who
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: are producers and co directors and writers of the new
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: project called The Founder's Movie. And by the way, The
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Foundersmovie dot Com is where you can go and be
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: part of the crowdfunding effort if you if you believe
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: that we need quality educational resources that are not dull
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: for the next generation, that actually engage them and kind
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: of speak their language and help them understand context of
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: who we are. Because I would say, in this two
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: hundred and fiftieth year, we have a unique opportunity where
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: the whole world kind of focuses on where America came from.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: Let's seize that and help our kids understand it better.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: The Founder's Movie is attempting to do just that. And
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: we were talking about Sean the idea that this will
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: be a feature of docu drama. And you've got the
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: you've got kind of the the everyday man represented in
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: these in this family that's going to kind of walk
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: through this, and you've got the Founders actually doing the
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: little confessional shots to the camera talking about like when
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: stuff happened, and you've got the the scenes of the
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: battles and the arguments that independently. Do you have the
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: caning I want the one where the other guy caned
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: the guy, you know, because they disagreed and like they
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: broke the cane over the I want I want that
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: one in there? Do we have that one? Don't answer.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: You'll have to watch it to find out.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: But we if we can't just tell just this amount.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, we You know, when Kyle and I first started
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 15: talking about doing this, it's like, well, I have an
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 15: idea for the series, Kyle said, and we kind of debated,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 15: went back and forth. We talked to Salem and media
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 15: and they're like, you know what if we started with
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 15: a movie and we're like, huh okay, yeah, I like that.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 15: We like that, and that introduces it. But we have
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 15: six episodes, six to ten episodes already kind of outlined.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 15: We have different seasons outlined because we think it's really
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 15: going to hit a lot of people with information and
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 15: stories and credible stories actually of individuals of others. A.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 15: Kyle's more of the expert on all that, but as
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 15: he was telling me, I'm like, oh my goodness, that
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 15: would be amazing. You know, we could do this because
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 15: we're using AI. We could do things that would cost
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 15: millions and millions of dollars and entertain, but educate and
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 15: help people feel a sense of pride and patriotism that
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 15: we hope to really inspire with not only the movie
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 15: but the series and use it for educational purposes within homeschooling,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 15: within public schools. Even we believe we have relationships with
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 15: different departments that Kyle has that could utilize this.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: We've even looked.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 15: Into building a program for the military to use it
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 15: for leadership and officers training.
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  Speaker 14: So the potential of this is huge.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 15: And we're really excited in this first step of doing
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 15: getting we the people involved in people through crowdfunding is
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 15: to is just the beginning.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: It's the first step. Well, and that's where friends you
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: come in and is it Founder's movie or the Founder's movie.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: I want to make sure we do the right Foundersmovie
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: dot com the Foundersmovie dot Com contribute to the crowdfunding
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: phase of this and help this project come to life. Okay,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: probably the most difficult question that we'll get asked about this.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: For whatever reason there is, there are those that may
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: be of the conservative or Christian mindset that are just
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: very untry rusting of anything even remotely attached to AI
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: and I don't quite understand it. I kind of liken
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: it too. When the World Wide Web first came out,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: and there were people in religious circles that were like, ooh,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: the devil's in the spirit of the Internet, that kind
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: of stuff. What do you say to people that say,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: why are you using a technology that some people would
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: associate with eliminating jobs or making things less than authentic.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: That's that's what the argument would be, and I do
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: not share that perspective. In fact, I have a brand
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: new sponsor that's going to start very shortly that is
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: a faith based AI basis that is starting everything from
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: the from ground level because chat GPT and Claude and
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: those guys, they will basically reflect back to whatever the
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: user wants to hear, so they'll you know, they'll tickle
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: your ears, as Paul says, and two Timothy, But I
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: see good that can come from AI and the amazing
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: stuff that it can do in way that we've never
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: been able to do before. Kyle, I'll come back to
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: you with that.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I think Seanna's a good to put too. But yeah,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 14: I mean we definitely considered that. But I think you know,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 14: the Bidoon's really light documentary.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: Did we talked.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 14: We shared the story of the War of eighteen twelve
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 14: fort McHenry and so on. We were able to use
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 14: the technology to tell that story and stay within the budget,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 14: you know, so as storytellers and low budget storytellers in
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 14: a sense, you know, we were not out you know,
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 14: making millions of dollars.
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  Speaker 1: This is a tool.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 14: And just like you know when when cars came out,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 14: you know, the whole horse and buggy trade freaked out.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: So let mean to say this, I don't think. I
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: think people that argue from the standpoint that it's going
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: to eliminate people's connection to this look at it backwards.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: Because the car did not limit to transfer in rotation.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: It exploded it exactly. The World Wide Web didn't limit communication.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: It didn't eliminate libraries, it didn't eliminate sources of information.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: It connected them even more strongly across the board. And
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: I think that you're not going to limit the amount
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: of stories, good stories that can be told or films
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: that can be made. You're going to create more storytellers
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: and there's going to be an advancement of all which
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: you guys are living proof of. So the Foundersmovie dot
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Com friends to be a part of this. You can
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: get in on the ground level and help fund it
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: from the very beginning, The Foundersmovie dot Com. The Foundersmovie
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: dot Com. Kyle and Sean check back in with me
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: in a few weeks and let's launch this thing and
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: get people educated on our founder.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: So thank you very much.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: Chavin Keller coming right back from Times Square.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 16: Don't go anywhere here, he is in New York, exact.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome, it's Kevin McCullough. It's Thursday, and again
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: back in the studio after our big day out on Tuesday,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: but glad to have you with us. You know, on
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: Thursdays we take a little bit of time to set
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: the newspaper down and talk about parenting improvement, different things
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: we can do, just one idea a week. And Shelley
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Goldberg is back with us to help us with this
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: The Parenting Express and Shelley. This week we're talking about
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: kids and their fears.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 12: Yes, how to help kids manage their fears. And Kevin,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 12: I was inspired because I saw a toddler right near
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 12: a kiddie pool.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 8: Maybe there was.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 12: Three four inches of water, and this kid was crying
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 12: and the mom wasn't quite sure what to do, and
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 12: I thought, this is something you know we can talk
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 12: about because every parent and grandparent has gone through this,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 12: and we're talking about those you know, those developmentally appropriate
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 12: your fears, the fear of the dark, the water, loud noises,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 12: you know, the barking dog on the corner, the banana
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 12: that breaks in half, and then the child gets very
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 12: upset and starts to cry, and there's a meltdown and
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 12: they're fearful about eating anything else. But all of those things,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 12: believe it or not very normal and what can we
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 12: do about it? Number one, especially maybe four kids slightly older.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 12: But the first place I would start, mom and dad,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 12: it's your TV on twenty four to seven, because a
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 12: lot of the images that are being pumped into your
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 12: house are scaring the dickens out of your kids. Loud noises,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 12: the car crashes, the tornadoes, there's just.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: This constant stream of images.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 12: That really can play on a child's imagination, especially kids
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 12: who are middle school age and above. So monitor what's
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 12: coming into your house. That's number one. Number two, ask yourself,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 12: what am I afraid of? Kevin, If it's heights for you,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 12: or if you're a slightly claustrophobic, I do not know
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 12: these things about you but certainly our kids are going
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 12: to pick up on it. So monitoring and getting to
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 12: know yourself better are also places to start. Okay, now
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 12: let's go back to basics. And now let's go back
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 12: to the two and the three year old. Validate their feelings.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 12: You don't want to dismiss fears with that's so silly.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 12: There's nothing to be afraid of, Susie, You'll be fine.
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  Speaker 4: Just be brave.
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  Speaker 12: I act, Kevin, that's not going to work. You want
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 12: to be able to say things like I can see
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 12: that you're upset. I can see that you're feeling scared.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 12: But you want to acknowledge what your child is feeling,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 12: that they're uncomfortable. That's the place to start. You as
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 12: the parent, want to model warmth and calmness. You want
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 12: to be calm, all right. Number two, Facing fears is
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 12: incremental step ladder approach. It's step by step. So if
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 12: your child has a fear of dogs, they hear the
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 12: dog barking, you want to go with photos books about dogs.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 12: You want to start watching dogs, maybe a block away,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 12: not up close and personal, but far away, and then
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 12: you're going to get closer and closer. And what you
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 12: want to kind of work up to is that your
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 12: child is able to stand next to a calm underline
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 12: c ALM calm dog.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: But that that would be the goal. But you have
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: to do it.
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  Speaker 12: You have to have a plan, and you have to
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 12: do it in stages, step by step, and they're going
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 12: to take step steps backward, and it might take longer
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 12: for some kids, maybe the neighbor's child. You can figure
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 12: out the marking dog scenario. You know, in three weeks.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 12: It might take your child, you know, two months, it
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 12: doesn't matter. You can go slow, but you will get
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 12: there three. Use imaginative play that works beautifully. That's the puppets,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 12: the drawing all. Sometimes you can have a designated plush
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 12: toy stuffed animal as the gatekeeper to keep away the
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 12: monster at night. You know that's under the bed. You know,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 12: you pick out a stuffed animal and that stuffed animals
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 12: is going to protect your child from this scary monster. Now,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 12: with older kids, we want to teach older kids coping
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 12: skills because most of the time we're not going to
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 12: be able to be there to help them to move
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 12: from fight flight into a calm state. So with older kids,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 12: verbal kids, middle school kids, we want to teach them
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 12: a belly breathing that's diaframatic breathing, and something called a
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 12: grounding technique, also known as.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: The three three three rule, that.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 12: Means when your child starts to panic, they're in a
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 12: crowded elevator, they're getting nervous because they have to speak
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 12: in front of the class, they should start to think
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 12: immediately three things they can see there, sounds that they hear,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 12: and three body parts that they can move, like their fingers,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 12: their toes, in their neck, those three things. But you
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 12: see what you hear and what you feel, very often
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 12: can literally snap your kids, literally move them back to baseline.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 12: So that's the technique that you can try and teach
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 12: your middle school kids. Don't use avoidance as a technique, Kevin.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 12: That's another thing, because things just grow. These these fears,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 12: these irrational fears, just get bigger and bigger.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: If you avoid the computer.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 12: So your child doesn't like dogs, you don't want it
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 12: to become a problem where they won't go on the
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 12: class trip because they're afraid they might bump into a dog.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: So gentle exposure is the key, Kevin.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: Your thoughts, No, I think.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: That this is really important because I think it's I
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: honestly believe that we've got to understand as best we
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: can the shoes that they're in and to provide that
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: kind of sense of comfort and understanding that the world's
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: you know, not spinning out of control, even if we
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: maybe feel that it is or whatever. At times, they're
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: going to take a lot of cues off of us.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: So I think the thing that I'm most zeroing in on,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: what you're talking about, is how much we portray or
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: you know, allow that to be seen, you know, and
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: you know from them watching us, kids catch a lot
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: more than they learn, and I think that we have
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: to be in the in the process of hoping that
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: they catch really good stuff. And I do agree with
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: you on the TV stuff, especially with the new technology,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: everything is so crystal clear and in perfect audio, and
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: you know, we have seventy inch screens on our living
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: room walls now, and it's like it's more than immersive,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: it's like you drown in it. And I think that
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: you got to You've got to take the steps to
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: protect them. Shelly. The innocence that they have only comes
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: once in life, and once it's gone, it's gone. And
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: I think everything that I can do to try to
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: delay the disappearance of that innocence, which my kids are
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: old enough now it pretty much all has been. But
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: you want to do the best you can because that's
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: just elongating their ability to be a true kid and
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: to have a true childhood.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 12: So beautifully said Kevin.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 4: It's such a short window.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 12: That innocence is such so small, so short, and we
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 12: want to protect them and not let these images and
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 12: want not let these things come into their life. But
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 12: they're just going to confuse them and add to their discomfort.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: So yeah, no doubt, all right, Shelly, I always appreciate it.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Kevin. Kevin McCullough coming back from
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: New York. Don't go anywhere.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 13: Serving it up. It's a no drink mintal. It's that
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  Speaker 13: Kenvin show.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Kevin Kell, have you with us? It's that
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Kevin show, that kevinshow dot com for everything related, including
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: helping us get these final kids. There are now forty
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: seven that still need someone to speak for them for
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: summer camp, and we have through the end of the week. Friends,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: we could do this, We could do this. We are
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: within range. If just forty seven people listening to the
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: sound of my voice would say, I'll take care of
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: one child, I'll get one child to camp. We could
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: do this, We could actually do this. It looked like
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: when we were early on that we weren't going to
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: come anywhere near our goal because they had some broken
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: phone lines and there were some other problems. But friends,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: you've made a valiant effort and now there are one
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen kids that are going to summer camp,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: and we're so grateful for that. But that means there
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: are forty seven that have not been spoken for, forty
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: seven children whose parents are in prison that will not
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: get to experience a week of Christian camp where the
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: gospel will be presented to them, where they will have
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: the chance to make friends, friends who understand and can
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: identify with what they're going through in life because they're
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  Speaker 2: going through the same thing. And counselors at the camp
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  Speaker 2: that formerly were Angel Tree kids and know what these
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  Speaker 2: kids are going through and loving on them and answering
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  Speaker 2: their questions and helping them and forming lifelong relationships with them. Friends. Here, here,
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  Speaker 2: my sixteen year old who's a counselor this year at
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  Speaker 2: a Christian camp. He just started, and he came home
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  Speaker 2: He came home the other day after the first day
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  Speaker 2: of camp, and I said, what was it like? And
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  Speaker 2: he said, Dad, I felt so good. And I said,
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  Speaker 2: why did you feel good? He goes, because there was
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  Speaker 2: a kid who was really sad and he had lost
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  Speaker 2: his backpack and we were everybody was, you know, pretty
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  Speaker 2: busy and everything else. He said, I just took the
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  Speaker 2: time and I walked around with him and I helped
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  Speaker 2: him find it, and I found it and we found
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  Speaker 2: the back and he said thank you to me, and
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  Speaker 2: he was so grateful, and it just it just changed
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  Speaker 2: this whole day, he said, Dad, that's why I do camp. Friends.
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  Speaker 2: The counselors at the Angel Tree camp are like that
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  Speaker 2: on steroids. These kids didn't lose backpacks. They've lost their lives.
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  Speaker 2: Their parents are in prison, and the counselors are walking around,
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  Speaker 2: loving on them, praying with helping them understand what the
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  Speaker 2: gospel means for them, introducing them to Jesus, helping them
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  Speaker 2: to find Jesus. When their parents have just found Jesus
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  Speaker 2: in prison and they want and they want their kids
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  Speaker 2: to find Jesus. They don't want they don't want their
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  Speaker 2: kids to find Jesus in prison. They want their kids
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  Speaker 2: to find Jesus out of prison, and that's what the
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  Speaker 2: Angel Tree counselors are helping them do. And friends, this
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  Speaker 2: is this is just a life changing experience. And we
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  Speaker 2: had a list of one hundred and sixty two names
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  Speaker 2: and there are forty seven names left on that list.
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  Speaker 2: And we have today, Tomorrow, Saturday, and Sunday. We are
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  Speaker 2: done on Sunday. I need your help now, I need
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  Speaker 2: your help to go and to help a child get
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  Speaker 2: to camp. It is urgent that we do this. We
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  Speaker 2: cannot sit on our loyal We cannot just let these
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  Speaker 2: kids be ignored and rot in there, you know, not
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  Speaker 2: great places all summer. They're gonna have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: time to spend in those places. Let's get them to
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  Speaker 2: a Christian camp for a week. And it's only two
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  Speaker 2: hundred dollars. If you were to try to put a
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  Speaker 2: kid in a camp around here in the Tri State area,
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  Speaker 2: it would cost you five hundred to one thousand dollars
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  Speaker 2: depending on the camp, just for the week of camp.
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  Speaker 2: But here you have the opportunity to help a child
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  Speaker 2: find Jesus and the outdoors and God and his creation
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  Speaker 2: and all the good things that he's done for them.
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  Speaker 2: You have a chance to help them do that right now.
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  Speaker 2: the top of the page that kevinshow dot com. Click
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  Speaker 2: the banner at the top of the page, and be
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  Speaker 2: as as generous as you can help every one of
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  Speaker 2: these kids get to camp. There's only forty seven left,
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  Speaker 2: but we can't do it without you. We need your help,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm I'm just hopeful and prayerful that forty seven
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  Speaker 2: people between now and Sunday will hear my voice and say,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, I'll do it. I'll help a child,
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  Speaker 2: These children need your help. Go right now.