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Arsenic-Laced Christmas Cake Killed Three Amid Family Feud · Murder Files Unsealed

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Speaker 1: I want you to take a second and just picture
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Speaker 1: your absolute favorite holiday tradition.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Everyone has one.
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Speaker 1: Right. Like, you know the one. If you're listening to
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Speaker 1: this right now, I bet a very specific image just
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Speaker 1: popped into your head.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: It's that one meal or maybe a hyper-specific dessert that
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Speaker 1: just anchors the entire season for you.
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Speaker 2: The one you wait all year for.
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Speaker 1: Exactly. The recipe that brings your whole family together year
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Speaker 1: after year, sitting around the exact same table. Think about
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Speaker 1: the sensory details of it. The smell of it baking,
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Speaker 1: the warmth of the kitchen, you know, the background noise
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Speaker 1: of relatives talking over each other.
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Speaker 2: The chaos.
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Speaker 1: The good chaos. There is this immense, almost psychological comfort
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Speaker 1: in knowing exactly what that food is going to taste like.
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Speaker 2: Because it's consistent. It's safe.
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Speaker 1: Yes. But now I want you to take that exact
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Speaker 1: symbol of comfort, that physical embodiment of family love and continuity,
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Speaker 1: and I want you to imagine it becoming a lethal weapon.
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Speaker 2: It is a, I mean, it's a genuinely terrifying pivot
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Speaker 2: to make in your mind.
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Speaker 1: It really is.
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Speaker 2: Because we are so deeply conditioned, going all the way
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Speaker 2: back to like early human history, to associate food with safety.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: The act of breaking bread, especially with these generational recipes,
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Speaker 2: it's the ultimate gesture of nurturing and trust.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. You're literally nourishing someone.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. So to have that core human expectation inverted, you know,
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Speaker 2: weaponized against you, is profoundly unsettling on a very primal level.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this, because today we are taking a
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Speaker 1: deep dive into a frankly chilling transcript sourced from the
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Speaker 1: Law and Crime Network.
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Speaker 2: It's a heavy one.
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Speaker 1: It really is. It details a horrific event that took
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Speaker 1: place in Torres, which is a small coastal town in
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Speaker 1: southern Brazil.
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Speaker 2: A really beautiful place, normally.
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Speaker 1: Right. And our mission today is to comb through the
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Speaker 1: medical anomalies, the incredibly fragile forensic evidence, and this whole
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Speaker 1: investigative puzzle of a family Christmas celebration that ended with
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Speaker 1: three people dead.
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Speaker 2: And three more fighting for their lives in an intensive
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Speaker 2: care unit.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And the delivery mechanism for all of this destruction,
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Speaker 1: it was a holiday dessert.
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Speaker 2: Which is just wild to think about. But I think
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Speaker 2: it's important to say, while the sheer shock value of
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Speaker 2: this event is what makes the headlines.
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Speaker 1: Of course.
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Speaker 2: Our goal today is to look past those sensational true
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Speaker 2: crime elements.
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Speaker 1: We want to get into the science.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. We are going to explore the granular realities of
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Speaker 2: forensic toxicology. We'll look at the fragile nature of physical
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Speaker 2: evidence once a body is actually in the ground.
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Speaker 1: Which is fascinating, by the way.
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Speaker 2: It really is. And we'll look at the immense legal
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Speaker 2: hurdles of proving a poisoning and, frankly, the incredibly dark,
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Speaker 2: complex realities of longstanding family dynamics.
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Speaker 1: So we have to start with the delivery mechanism of
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Speaker 1: this tragedy. We need to lay out exactly what happened
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Speaker 1: before we can even begin to understand how it happened.
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Speaker 2: Or how the science explains it, yeah. Right.
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Speaker 1: So let's travel down to Torres. It is December 23rd.
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Speaker 1: The family is gathering for the holidays.
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Speaker 2: The prime time for stress.
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Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely. We all know the universal stress of hosting
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Speaker 1: family for the holidays, managing all the different personalities, trying
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Speaker 1: to get the food out on time.
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Speaker 2: It's a lot.
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Speaker 1: It's so much. But this gathering was supposed to be
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Speaker 1: a joyous occasion, you know? It was centered around a matriarch.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the center of this gathering was 61-year-old Zelie Silva
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Speaker 2: de Anjos. She and one of her sisters had spent
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Speaker 2: the entire day baking this traditional holiday cake for the
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Speaker 2: extended family.
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Speaker 1: A labor of love.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. But within hours of serving it, The gathering collapsed
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Speaker 2: into an absolute medical catastrophe.
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Speaker 1: Let me walk you through the family tree involved here
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Speaker 1: because the scale of the devastation is just staggering.
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Speaker 2: It's hard to keep track of, honestly. It is.
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Speaker 1: So the victims who passed away were Zelie's sisters, 58-year-old
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Speaker 1: Maida Flores de Silva and 65-year-old Nusa Silva de Sanchos. Okay.
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Speaker 1: Along with Nusa's 43-year-old daughter, Tatiana.
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Speaker 2: Just devastating.
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Speaker 1: But the nightmare didn't stop there. rushed to the ICU,
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Speaker 1: literally fighting for their lives, were Xaeli herself.
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Speaker 2: Wait, the woman who baked the cake?
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Speaker 1: Yes. Xaeli herself, along with Maeda's husband, Jefferson, and Tatiana's
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Speaker 1: 10-year-old son, Matthias.
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Speaker 2: We are talking about multiple generations of a single family
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Speaker 2: tree here.
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Speaker 1: It's unthinkable.
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Speaker 2: You have a 10-year-old boy and a 65-year-old matriarch, all
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Speaker 2: struck down simultaneously.
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Speaker 1: And the focal point of all of this, the thing
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Speaker 1: connecting them, was a bolo de natal. Right. If you
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Speaker 1: aren't familiar with it, um... This is a traditional Portuguese
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Speaker 1: Christmas fruitcake. It has a very heavy cultural weight.
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Speaker 2: A staple for the holidays.
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Speaker 1: Exactly. It's usually packed with dried fruits, nuts, and soaked
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Speaker 1: in liquor, often brandy or rum.
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Speaker 2: Sounds delicious, honestly.
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Speaker 1: It does. And according to a close family friend quoted
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Speaker 1: in the sources... This specific king's cake was a staple
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Speaker 1: for this family.
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Speaker 2: They made it every year.
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Speaker 1: Year after year. There had never been any problems before.
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Speaker 1: It was just this innocent, beloved tradition sitting right in
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Speaker 1: the center of the table.
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Speaker 2: But this particular year, there was a very immediate, highly
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Speaker 2: unusual red flag.
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Speaker 1: Oh.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. According to the lead investigator on the case, Marcos Veloso,
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Speaker 2: as the family began eating the cake, several members actually stopped.
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Speaker 1: Like mid-bite.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they stopped and noted this, quote, spicy and unpleasant flavor.
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Speaker 1: Oh, wow. So they knew something was off right away.
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Speaker 2: They did. And Zili, realizing something was horribly wrong with
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Speaker 2: her bake, actually told everyone to put their forks down
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Speaker 2: and just stop eating it. Wow. But she was too late.
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Speaker 2: The physiological damage was done so incredibly fast.
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Speaker 1: How fast are we talking?
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Speaker 2: Well, Tatiana and Maida died that very same day from
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Speaker 2: massive heart attacks.
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Speaker 1: That same afternoon? Yes. Yes.
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Speaker 2: Noosa died the next day, on Christmas Eve, of what
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Speaker 2: was officially recorded as shock.
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Speaker 1: God, that's brutal. Now, my initial thought reading this, and
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people's thought, would be to
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Speaker 1: look at the baker.
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Speaker 2: Naturally.
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Speaker 1: Right. If Zeely baked the cake, the natural assumption is
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Speaker 1: that she's the prime suspect. It's her kitchen, they're her ingredients.
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Speaker 2: That she ended up in the ICU.
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Speaker 1: Exactly. She was on a ventilator for days, fighting for
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Speaker 1: her own life, so that throws the entire prime suspect
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Speaker 1: theory out the window right at the start.
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Speaker 2: Which forces law enforcement and the medical responders to just
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Speaker 2: immediately rethink the entire scenario.
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Speaker 1: Right, because nothing adds up.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. When you have multiple otherwise healthy people, and remember,
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Speaker 2: we're talking about drastically different ages, body weights, and baseline
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Speaker 2: health profiles here.
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Speaker 1: From 10 to 65.
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Speaker 2: Yes. When they all simultaneously collapse with heart failure and
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Speaker 2: massive physical shock, you are dealing with a highly, highly
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Speaker 2: unusual pathology. The speed and the sheer severity of their
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Speaker 2: symptoms rule out common foodborne illnesses before the ambulances even
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Speaker 2: reach the hospital doors.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let me play devil's advocate for a second, though.
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Speaker 2: Sure.
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Speaker 1: If someone leaves a dessert out in the sun, or,
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Speaker 1: I don't know, a batch of eggs is bad, couldn't
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Speaker 1: a severe case of salmonella or E. coli tear through
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Speaker 1: a family like this?
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a fair question.
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Speaker 1: Because I think we've all heard those horror stories of
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Speaker 1: food poisoning just ruining a wedding or a family reunion.
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Speaker 2: Oh, bacterial food poisoning certainly ruins events. And it can
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Speaker 2: absolutely be fatal, especially to the very young or the elderly.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: But we have to look at the timeline here and
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Speaker 2: the mechanism of injury.
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Speaker 1: Okay, break that down for me.
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Speaker 2: Bacteria like salmonella require an incubation period. Once you ingest
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Speaker 2: the contaminated food, the bacteria actually have to multiply in
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Speaker 2: your intestinal tract.
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Speaker 1: So it takes time.
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Speaker 2: It takes hours, sometimes days. Before you start seeing those
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Speaker 2: severe symptoms.
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Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
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Speaker 2: And even then, the primary cause of death in severe
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Speaker 2: food poisoning is usually profound dehydration from fluid loss over
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Speaker 2: an extended period.
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Speaker 1: Not a sudden heart attack.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. It rarely, if ever, causes instantaneous synchronized heart attacks
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Speaker 2: across multiple people of varying ages within a matter of hours.
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Speaker 1: Got it. So the doctors knew immediately.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the medical professionals in Torres knew right away they
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Speaker 2: were looking at an acute chemical exposure.
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Speaker 1: So if it's not a bad egg, what acts this fast?
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Speaker 1: That kind of transitions us into the actual weapon used
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Speaker 1: and the underlying pathology of the poison itself.
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Speaker 2: A science of it.
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Speaker 1: Right. Because the weapon wasn't a knife. It wasn't a gun.
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Speaker 1: It was arsenic.
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Speaker 2: Arsenic.
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Speaker 1: And our sources include these really fascinating insights from forensic
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Speaker 1: pathologist Dr. Mary Jellick. And she breaks down the brutal
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Speaker 1: reality of what arsenic actually does to the human body.
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Speaker 2: It's pretty horrifying.
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Speaker 1: It is. But before we get to the biology, I
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Speaker 1: want to talk about the history here, because arsenic has
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Speaker 1: this notorious, almost cinematic reputation.
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Speaker 2: It absolutely does. I mean, in the 19th century, arsenic
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Speaker 2: was infamously dubbed the inheritance powder.
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Speaker 1: Inheritance powder. That is so dark. Right.
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Speaker 2: It was the poison of choice for people looking to
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Speaker 2: quietly eliminate a wealthy relative.
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Speaker 1: But why was it so popular?
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Speaker 2: Precisely because the symptoms of arsenic poisoning so closely mimicked
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Speaker 2: the symptoms of cholera or severe dysentery, which were incredibly
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Speaker 2: common diseases at the time.
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Speaker 1: Oh, wow. So it was like the perfect cover.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. A doctor would come in, see a patient with
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Speaker 2: severe vomiting and diarrhea, and simply chalk it up to
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Speaker 2: a natural, very common disease.
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Speaker 1: And it was everywhere back then. It was in wallpaper dyes.
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Speaker 1: It was in cosmetics.
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Speaker 2: It was unavoidable.
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Speaker 1: But Dr. Jellick points out that arsenic is actually a
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Speaker 1: naturally occurring element.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's found in groundwater globally, and it's heavily present in
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Speaker 1: certain types of seafood.
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Speaker 2: Which a lot of people don't realize.
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Speaker 1: Right. Because of this, the human body can actually tolerate
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Speaker 1: a certain baseline level of arsenic without any adverse effects
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Speaker 1: at all.
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Speaker 2: We can process it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. We are all walking around with trace amounts of
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Speaker 1: it in our systems right now.
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Speaker 2: But as with all things in toxicology, the dose makes
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Speaker 2: the poison.
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Speaker 1: The dose makes the poison.
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Speaker 2: While we can handle those environmental trace amounts... A concentrated
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Speaker 2: acute dose is a totally different story.
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Speaker 1: How much is fatal? Dr.
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Speaker 2: Jalik noted that a mere 200 milligrams can be fatal
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Speaker 2: to an adult.
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Speaker 1: 200 milligrams?
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Speaker 2: To visualize that, 200 milligrams is roughly the size of
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Speaker 2: a single grain of coarse sea salt.
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Speaker 1: Wait, seriously, just one grain of salt?
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Speaker 2: That is all it takes to trigger a catastrophic systemic
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Speaker 2: failure in the human body.
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Speaker 1: But wait, I have a major question about that crucial
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Speaker 1: clue we discussed earlier.
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Speaker 2: The taste.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. You said arsenic was the ultimate inheritance powder because
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Speaker 1: it was so easy to slip into food or tea. Right.
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Speaker 1: And that's because pure arsenic is completely tasteless and odorless, right?
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Speaker 2: That is the defining characteristic that made it such a
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Speaker 2: historically prolific weapon. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You can dissolve a lethal dose in water or wine
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Speaker 2: and the victim will not detect a single thing.
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Speaker 1: So if pure arsenic is tasteless and odorless... What on
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Speaker 1: earth was that spicy and unpleasant flavor the family tasted
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Speaker 1: in the Christmas cake?
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Speaker 2: That's a great question.
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Speaker 1: Why didn't it just taste like a normal bolo de natal?
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Speaker 2: What's fascinating here is that the bitter or spicy taste
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Speaker 2: almost certainly didn't come from the arsenic itself.
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Speaker 1: It didn't?
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Speaker 2: No, it came from the delivery system of the arsenic.
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Speaker 1: Oh.
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Speaker 2: Dr. Jalik explains that the perpetrator didn't just walk into
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Speaker 2: a laboratory and procure pure medical-grade arsenic.
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Speaker 1: Because who can do that, right? Right.
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Speaker 2: They likely used a commercial pesticide. Specifically, they believe it
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Speaker 2: was ant poison.
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Speaker 1: Oh, wow. Ant poison.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. When you buy ant poison, the active lethal ingredient
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Speaker 2: might be an inorganic arsenic compound, but the manufacturer formulates
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Speaker 2: it with a whole host of other chemical additives. Like what?
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Speaker 2: Binding agents, deterrents, things to make it stay clumped together
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Speaker 2: or resist water.
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Speaker 1: Ah, I see.
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Speaker 2: So the spicy, unpleasant flavor the family detects. That horrible
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Speaker 2: taste that made Zeely tell everyone to stop eating.
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Speaker 1: That was the extra stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. It was from those harsh agricultural chemicals formulated
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Speaker 2: into the pesticide, not the arsenic hiding within it.
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Speaker 1: So the poison was hiding inside a pesticide, which was
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Speaker 1: hiding inside a Christmas cake.
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Speaker 2: A Trojan horse inside a Trojan horse.
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Speaker 1: Let's get into the biology of this because I really
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Speaker 1: want to understand the exact mechanism behind it. What exactly
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Speaker 1: happens when someone ingests a lethal dose of this?
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Speaker 2: It's a cascading failure.
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Speaker 1: Because how does it ravage the body so quickly that
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Speaker 1: someone drops dead of a heart attack that same afternoon?
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Speaker 2: To understand the devastation, you have to look at how
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Speaker 2: arsenic fundamentally tricks the human body on a cellular level.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm with you.
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Speaker 2: When a massive acute dose of arsenic is ingested, it
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Speaker 2: immediately attacks the lining of the gastrointestinal system.
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Speaker 1: So that's the stomach and intestines. Right.
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Speaker 2: The victims would experience sudden severe vomiting, watery diarrhea, and
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Speaker 2: just intense abdominal cramping.
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Speaker 1: Which, again, is why those Victorian doctors historically confused it
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Speaker 1: with cholera.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. But the arsenic doesn't just stay in the GI tract.
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Speaker 1: Right. It spreads.
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Speaker 2: It absorbs rapidly into the bloodstream. And this is where
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Speaker 2: it executes a highly, highly sophisticated molecular attack. Okay. Arsenic
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Speaker 2: is chemically very similar to phosphorus.
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Speaker 1: Phosphorus.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And phosphorus is a critical element your cells use.
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Speaker 2: to create ATP adenosine triphosphate.
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Speaker 1: Oh, ATP. The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell stuff.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. ATP is essentially the basic energy currency of every
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Speaker 2: single living cell in your body. It's what allows your
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Speaker 2: heart to beat, your lungs to expand, your brain to function.
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Speaker 1: So if it's similar to phosphorus, does arsenic act like
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Speaker 1: a biological imposter?
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Speaker 2: It acts as a perfect counterfeit. Wow. Because arsenic looks
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Speaker 2: so similar to phosphorus, your cells accidentally absorb the arsenic
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Speaker 2: and try to use it to build ATP.
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Speaker 1: But it doesn't work?
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Speaker 2: Right, because arsenic is unstable in this specific biological role,
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Speaker 2: so the whole process completely breaks down. Suddenly, cellular energy
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Speaker 2: production just grinds to a halt. The cells simply cannot
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Speaker 2: generate the energy they need to survive.
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Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know, it's like replacing the spark
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Speaker 1: plugs in a car engine with pieces of chalk.
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Speaker 2: That's a great way to put it.
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Speaker 1: The engine thinks it has what it needs to run,
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Speaker 1: but the moment you try to actually fire it up,
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Speaker 1: everything just dies.
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Speaker 2: That is an incredibly apt way to visualize it. And
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Speaker 2: while this energy blackout is happening, the arsenic is also
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Speaker 2: doing something else.
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Speaker 1: What's that?
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Speaker 2: It's destroying the integrity of your blood vessels.
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Speaker 1: Oh, God.
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Speaker 2: It causes a specific type of rapid catastrophic dehydration. you
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Speaker 2: actually begin losing the water inside your actual vascular system.
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Speaker 1: Wait, like your blood is losing water? Yes.
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Speaker 2: That fluid leaks out of your blood vessels and just
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Speaker 2: shifts into the surrounding tissues.
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Speaker 1: Which explains the official cause of death.
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Speaker 2: The heart attacks.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Maida and Tatiana were recorded as dying from heart attacks.
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Speaker 1: When you lose that much vascular fluid, your blood pressure
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Speaker 1: must absolutely plummet.
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Speaker 2: It plummets to a level completely incompatible with life. When
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Speaker 2: your vascular system loses that much volume so rapidly, the
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Speaker 2: heart is suddenly trying to pump sludge. instead of fluid.
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Speaker 1: Oh, that's a terrifying image.
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Speaker 2: It is. It has to work exponentially harder just to
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Speaker 2: circulate blood. But remember, the arsenic has also shut down
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Speaker 2: cellular energy production.
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Speaker 1: So the heart has no energy to do the harder work.
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Speaker 2: Precisely. The heart muscle is starving for energy while simultaneously
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Speaker 2: trying to pump against massive resistance.
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Speaker 1: A double whammy.
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Speaker 2: And furthermore, arsenic directly interferes with the electrical conductivity of
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Speaker 2: the heart itself.
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Speaker 1: So the rhythm gets messed up, too.
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Speaker 2: The electrical pacing is totally scrambled. The organ is starved, exhausted,
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Speaker 2: and electrical chaotic. That is why they suffered those massive
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Speaker 2: fatal heart attacks so quickly.
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Speaker 1: If you're listening to this and wondering how on earth
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Speaker 1: an emergency room doctor spots this in real time.
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Speaker 2: It's very difficult.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if a patient comes in presenting with extreme
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Speaker 1: dehydration and a heart attack, the doctor is going to
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Speaker 1: treat them for a heart attack.
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Speaker 2: Of course they are.
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Speaker 1: How does a hospital spot arsenic poisoning through all that chaos?
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Speaker 2: They have to look very, very closely at the blood work.
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Speaker 2: And they have to look at the aggregate data of
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Speaker 2: the whole group.
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Speaker 1: Each context.
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Speaker 2: Right. If one person comes in with a heart attack,
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Speaker 2: you treat the heart. Obviously. If six people from the
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Speaker 2: exact same house come in simultaneously with vascular collapse, you
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Speaker 2: immediately run a comprehensive toxicology screen.
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Speaker 1: The pattern gives it away? Yes.
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Speaker 2: Doctors can draw blood and examine it under a microscope.
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Speaker 2: And they'll look for very specific structural damage to the
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Speaker 2: red blood cells caused by that cellular energy failure we
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Speaker 2: talked about.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: A massive toxic exposure to arsenic will also cause a drastic,
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Speaker 2: sudden drop in overall white blood cells, red blood cells,
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Speaker 2: and platelets.
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Speaker 1: So everything just crashes?
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Speaker 2: The lab tests would show an absolutely catastrophic, inexplicable crash
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Speaker 2: across the patient's entire blood profile.
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Speaker 1: And for the survivors, Zelie, Jefferson, and young Matthias... There's
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Speaker 1: actually a long-term physical record of this trauma even after
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Speaker 1: they leave the ICU.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and this is one of the most fascinating aspects
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Speaker 2: of forensic toxicology to me.
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Speaker 1: It's mind-blowing.
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Speaker 2: For those who survive the acute phase, the body actually
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Speaker 2: records the poisoning event in its own keratin growth cycles.
16:59
Speaker 1: In their nails.
17:00
Speaker 2: Right.
17:00
Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
17:02
Speaker 2: Arsenic physically halts the growth plate at the base of
17:04
Speaker 2: the fingernails. Wow. As the nail eventually grows out, weeks
17:09
Speaker 2: and months later... It leaves a telltale horizontal white line
17:13
Speaker 2: stretching all the way across the nail bed.
17:15
Speaker 1: And those have a specific name, don't they?
17:17
Speaker 2: They do. They are known clinically as Mies lines.
17:20
Speaker 1: I love Dr. Jellick's explanation of this in the sources.
17:24
Speaker 1: It's literally like tree rings recording a year of drought
17:27
Speaker 1: or a forest fire, but in human fingernails.
17:29
Speaker 2: It's a perfect analogy.
17:30
Speaker 1: You can look at a survivor's hand two months later
17:33
Speaker 1: and pinpoint the exact week their body was fighting off
17:36
Speaker 1: the toxin.
17:36
Speaker 2: The body keeps the score.
17:38
Speaker 1: It really does. But here's a question for you, getting
17:40
Speaker 1: back to the environmental factor we mentioned earlier.
17:42
Speaker 2: Okay.
17:42
Speaker 1: If arsenic is naturally occurring in groundwater, and we know
17:45
Speaker 1: it's in seafood.
17:46
Speaker 2: Right.
17:47
Speaker 1: How do investigators definitively prove this wasn't just some horrible
17:51
Speaker 1: freak environmental accident?
17:52
Speaker 2: That's a huge burden of proof.
17:54
Speaker 1: Let's say the family had a massive seafood feast the
17:57
Speaker 1: night before. How do they separate we ate too much
18:01
Speaker 1: shrimp arsenic from someone deliberately tried to murder us arsenic?
18:06
Speaker 2: That is the exact hurdle forensic toxicologists have to clear
18:10
Speaker 2: in court just to establish a crime even took place.
18:13
Speaker 1: So how do they do it?
18:14
Speaker 2: First, they look at the sheer concentration. We mentioned 200
18:18
Speaker 2: milligrams is fatal.
18:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, the grain of salt.
18:20
Speaker 2: The levels we are talking about in an environmental exposure,
18:24
Speaker 2: even a very heavy seafood diet, are microscopic compared to
18:28
Speaker 2: an acute weaponized dose.
18:29
Speaker 1: So it's a matter of scale.
18:31
Speaker 2: Scale is step one. Step two is chemistry. Scientists can
18:34
Speaker 2: chemically differentiate between organic arsenic.
18:36
Speaker 1: Which is the natural kind.
18:38
Speaker 2: Yes, which is what you find naturally in seafood and
18:40
Speaker 2: is generally harmless to humans. Okay. They can separate that
18:43
Speaker 2: from inorganic arsenic, which is highly toxic and used in
18:46
Speaker 2: commercial pesticides and industrial applications.
18:48
Speaker 1: So they can literally look at the chemical fingerprint of
18:51
Speaker 1: the poison in the victim's blood and know definitively that
18:55
Speaker 1: it didn't come from nature.
18:57
Speaker 2: They absolutely can. And furthermore, to completely rule out any
19:01
Speaker 2: environmental anomaly... Investigators would rigorously test the local groundwater the
19:06
Speaker 2: family uses daily.
19:07
Speaker 1: Just to be sure.
19:08
Speaker 2: Exactly. Establishing that the baseline environment of the Torres home
19:13
Speaker 2: was completely normal and safe.
19:15
Speaker 1: Okay, here is where it gets really interesting.
19:17
Speaker 2: It's about to take a turn.
19:18
Speaker 1: We know the poison was inorganic arsenic, likely from a pesticide.
19:23
Speaker 1: We know the cellular mechanism of how it caused those
19:26
Speaker 1: fatal heart attacks.
19:27
Speaker 2: We have the what and the how.
19:29
Speaker 1: Right. So now the investigation logically shifts to the physical
19:32
Speaker 1: evidence in the kitchen and finding the prime suspect. The who. Exactly.
19:38
Speaker 1: How did a lethal dose of ant poison get into
19:40
Speaker 1: a beloved family recipe?
19:42
Speaker 2: This is where the toxicology result on the food itself
19:45
Speaker 2: become paramount to the criminal investigation.
19:47
Speaker 1: What did they find?
19:48
Speaker 2: The director of the general... Institute of Expertise in Brazil,
19:52
Speaker 2: Margaret Mittman, provided the astonishing numbers here.
19:54
Speaker 1: Okay, brace yourself if you're listening.
19:56
Speaker 2: The arsenic levels found in the victims' bodies were between
19:59
Speaker 2: 80 to 350 times the safe limit for human consumption.
20:03
Speaker 1: 350 times the limit.
20:05
Speaker 2: And that's just in the bodies. Then they tested the
20:07
Speaker 2: physical ingredients sitting in Zili's kitchen.
20:10
Speaker 1: Because they had to find the source. Right.
20:12
Speaker 2: Investigators painstakingly collected the raw ingredients used to make the cake,
20:17
Speaker 2: the sugar, the milk, the spices, and the flour.
20:19
Speaker 1: And?
20:20
Speaker 2: I found it. The poison was traced back specifically to
20:23
Speaker 2: the flour. The flour? Yes. And the analysis of that
20:27
Speaker 2: flour revealed arsenic levels that were 2,700 times higher than
20:32
Speaker 2: the acceptable limit.
20:33
Speaker 1: Wait. 2,700 times higher?
20:36
Speaker 2: It's astronomical.
20:37
Speaker 1: Margaret Mittman made it very clear in her statement. That
20:41
Speaker 1: is not a natural contamination at a processing plant. Yeah.
20:44
Speaker 1: That is undeniably 100% intentional poisoning.
20:48
Speaker 2: It's malice.
20:50
Speaker 1: The flower sitting in Zelie's pantry was essentially weaponized.
20:53
Speaker 2: And that revelation leads law enforcement directly to their primary suspect.
20:57
Speaker 1: Enter a woman referred to in the sources simply as Day.
21:01
Speaker 1: She is 42 years old and she is Zelie's daughter-in-law.
21:04
Speaker 2: The family connection.
21:05
Speaker 1: Yeah. She was officially arrested on suspicion of triple homicide
21:09
Speaker 1: and attempted homicide.
21:10
Speaker 2: The authorities built their initial case on two main pillars.
21:14
Speaker 1: Okay.
21:15
Speaker 2: The first, as is so often the case in domestic homicides,
21:19
Speaker 2: was motive.
21:20
Speaker 1: Always look at the motive.
21:21
Speaker 2: There were reports, which were confirmed by multiple family members
21:24
Speaker 2: to CNN Brazil, of a long-standing 20-year family feud between
21:30
Speaker 2: dead and her mother-in-law, Zelie.
21:32
Speaker 1: 20 years of bad blood culminating in a weaponized Christmas cake.
21:36
Speaker 2: It's tragic.
21:36
Speaker 1: It is. We don't have the specifics of the feud
21:39
Speaker 1: in the source material, but... But I think we all
21:41
Speaker 1: know how deep and toxic family resentments can run.
21:44
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
21:45
Speaker 1: But motive isn't enough to put someone in handcuffs. You
21:47
Speaker 1: need actual evidence.
21:49
Speaker 2: You have to tie them to the act.
21:50
Speaker 1: Right. And the authorities claim they found it in her
21:52
Speaker 1: digital footprint.
21:53
Speaker 2: Yes. Digital forensics reportedly showed that in the days leading
21:58
Speaker 2: up to the holiday tragedy, Dad had been actively Googling
22:01
Speaker 2: terms related to arsenic, pesticides, and poisoning mechanisms.
22:05
Speaker 1: The regional security minister, Sandro Caron, stated at a press
22:09
Speaker 1: conference that they have, quote, Very strong indications and very
22:13
Speaker 1: good information pointing directly to her malicious actions.
22:17
Speaker 2: Very confident phrasing.
22:19
Speaker 1: It is. But he also noted they are withholding some
22:22
Speaker 1: of the more granular details to protect the integrity of
22:25
Speaker 1: the ongoing legal case.
22:27
Speaker 2: Which is standard operating procedure in any high-stakes homicide investigation.
22:31
Speaker 1: Sure.
22:32
Speaker 2: However, a press conference is not a court of law.
22:36
Speaker 1: That is a very important distinction.
22:38
Speaker 2: And the defense lawyer's counter-argument really highlights the immense difficulty
22:42
Speaker 2: of actually prosecuting a poisoning case based purely on circumstantial evidence.
22:47
Speaker 1: Let's be fair here and look at this impartially, because
22:49
Speaker 1: the defense attorney has a very sharp point.
22:51
Speaker 2: They do.
22:52
Speaker 1: They are arguing that there is absolutely no causal link
22:55
Speaker 1: showing how that tainted flower actually got into Zili's house.
22:58
Speaker 2: Right. The defense actively dismisses the motive as just, quote,
23:02
Speaker 2: accounts of some family members who inherently hold their own
23:05
Speaker 2: biases and grievances.
23:07
Speaker 1: It's just gossip, basically.
23:08
Speaker 2: According to the defense, yes. And more importantly, they brush
23:12
Speaker 2: off the internet searches as just a supposed extraction of
23:15
Speaker 2: data from a mobile phone.
23:17
Speaker 1: Right.
23:18
Speaker 2: Arguing that a Google search is not a murder weapon.
23:21
Speaker 1: Let me play devil's advocate for the defense here.
23:23
Speaker 2: Go for it.
23:25
Speaker 1: I Google crazy things for this show all the time.
23:27
Speaker 2: We all do.
23:28
Speaker 1: I've probably Googled how much arsenic is fatal three times
23:32
Speaker 1: this week just prepping for this deep dive.
23:34
Speaker 2: You're definitely on a list.
23:35
Speaker 1: Right. If someone unfortunately drops dead of poisoning in my
23:38
Speaker 1: house tomorrow... My search history makes me look like a
23:41
Speaker 1: cold-blooded killer.
23:42
Speaker 2: It doesn't look good.
23:43
Speaker 1: Does a weird search history equal a conviction?
23:47
Speaker 2: It is an incredibly steep hill for prosecutors to climb.
23:50
Speaker 1: I imagine.
23:51
Speaker 2: As Dr. Jellick pointed out in the source material, poisoning
23:54
Speaker 2: cases are notoriously difficult to prove specifically because of the
23:58
Speaker 2: time delay between the act and the outcome.
24:00
Speaker 1: Unlike shooting someone, where the cause and effect are instantaneous
24:04
Speaker 1: and usually witnessed, here there is this massive gap in
24:08
Speaker 1: time and space.
24:09
Speaker 2: Think about the timeline. There is a significant gap between
24:13
Speaker 2: the moment the ingredient, the flour, was physically tampered with,
24:17
Speaker 2: the moment the cake was baked by Zili, and the
24:19
Speaker 2: moment the cake was finally consumed by the family.
24:21
Speaker 1: It could be days or weeks.
24:23
Speaker 2: Exactly. Prosecutors have to painstakingly bridge that gap with circumstantial evidence.
24:30
Speaker 1: Oh.
24:31
Speaker 2: They have to prove that Dee had physical access to
24:34
Speaker 2: Zili's pantry. that she had the opportunity to swap or
24:37
Speaker 2: contaminate the flower without being seen, and that no one
24:40
Speaker 2: else could have reasonably done it.
24:42
Speaker 1: It's not like the Trojan horse analogy where someone physically
24:45
Speaker 1: hands you a gift with enemies inside. No. It's more
24:48
Speaker 1: like a corrupted line of code.
24:50
Speaker 2: That's a good way to look at it.
24:51
Speaker 1: Someone slips a malicious line of code into a massive
24:54
Speaker 1: software program and they just walk away.
24:56
Speaker 2: And they wait.
24:57
Speaker 1: The program runs perfectly fine for weeks until someone hits
25:00
Speaker 1: the exact right keystroke and the whole system crashes. Yes.
25:04
Speaker 1: Proving who wrote that code and when they inserted it
25:07
Speaker 1: is incredibly complex. But investigators do use a classic epidemiological
25:12
Speaker 1: technique here to narrow their focus, don't they? They do.
25:15
Speaker 2: And it is a foundational concept in public health and toxicology.
25:18
Speaker 1: What is it?
25:20
Speaker 2: You look at the primary exposure event. Out of the
25:23
Speaker 2: seven people gathered eating this cake, six became violently ill.
25:28
Speaker 1: And the seven?
25:28
Speaker 2: The one person who was present at the gathering but
25:31
Speaker 2: did not eat the cake did not get sick.
25:33
Speaker 1: Well, that immediately proves the cake was the source.
25:36
Speaker 2: Yes.
25:36
Speaker 1: But it also creates a closed universe of suspects.
25:39
Speaker 2: It creates a defined perimeter. You eliminate the people who
25:42
Speaker 2: ate the food and died. Obviously. You eliminate the people
25:45
Speaker 2: who ate the food and nearly died like Zeely.
25:47
Speaker 1: Right.
25:47
Speaker 2: You look at who was left in the inner circle,
25:49
Speaker 2: who had physical access to the home leading up to
25:52
Speaker 2: the holidays, and who had a documented motive.
25:55
Speaker 1: And the circle gets very small.
25:57
Speaker 2: Very small. When you overlay the physical access with a
26:00
Speaker 2: 20-year feud... and a digital footprint researching the exact poison
26:05
Speaker 2: found in the flower, the circumstantial web becomes very tight.
26:09
Speaker 1: And just when you think you have a grasp on
26:11
Speaker 1: the full scope of this holiday nightmare... It gets worse.
26:14
Speaker 1: The story takes a massive turn. We have to pivot
26:18
Speaker 1: to a chilling realization that investigator Marcos Veloso brought to
26:21
Speaker 1: light during the investigation.
26:23
Speaker 2: This is the part that really got me.
26:25
Speaker 1: This Christmas tragedy might not have been the first attempt
26:28
Speaker 1: on this family's life.
26:29
Speaker 2: This is where the investigation expands backward in time, looking
26:33
Speaker 2: for patterns that were previously dismissed as natural tragedies.
26:36
Speaker 1: We have to talk about the death of Paula Louise.
26:38
Speaker 2: Zealy's husband.
26:39
Speaker 1: Yes, he was Zealy's 68-year-old husband. He died just a
26:45
Speaker 1: few months prior to this Christmas event back in September.
26:48
Speaker 2: And at the time of his death, the official cause
26:50
Speaker 2: was deemed to be severe, quote, food poisoning.
26:53
Speaker 1: Food poisoning again.
26:54
Speaker 2: Right. What is highly notable, in retrospect... is that both
26:58
Speaker 2: he and his wife, Zelie, fell ill at the exact
27:00
Speaker 2: same time with very similar violent gastrointestinal symptoms.
27:05
Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
27:06
Speaker 2: Zelie eventually recovered from that September incident. Paolo did not.
27:10
Speaker 1: At the time, nobody thought twice about it.
27:12
Speaker 2: Why would they? Right.
27:13
Speaker 1: An older couple gets a bad bout of food poisoning,
27:16
Speaker 1: maybe from a bad restaurant or expired meat, and the
27:19
Speaker 1: older husband tragically passes away.
27:21
Speaker 2: It happens every day.
27:22
Speaker 1: It does. Doctors see it, they sign the death certificate,
27:25
Speaker 1: and the family grieves.
27:26
Speaker 2: It is a classic example of Occam's razor in medicine.
27:29
Speaker 1: The simplest explanation is usually the right one.
27:31
Speaker 2: Exactly. When a 68-year-old man presents with severe GI distress
27:36
Speaker 2: and passes away, doctors don't immediately assume an exotic 19th
27:40
Speaker 2: century poisoning plot by a daughter-in-law.
27:43
Speaker 1: No, they assume a severe bacterial infection or a natural
27:46
Speaker 1: cardiac event triggered by dehydration.
27:49
Speaker 2: But now, with the undeniable discovery of the arsenic-laced flower
27:53
Speaker 2: in December... Everything changes. Detective Veloso confirmed that Paolo's September
27:58
Speaker 2: death is officially being reinvestigated as a possible homicide.
28:02
Speaker 1: And to prove it, they are taking the drastic, deeply
28:06
Speaker 1: emotional step of exhuming his body from the grave.
28:08
Speaker 2: Which raises an incredibly important question about the actual capabilities
28:12
Speaker 2: and limitations of forensic science.
28:14
Speaker 1: Because it's not like the movies.
28:16
Speaker 2: Not at all. If you watch police procedurals on television,
28:19
Speaker 2: an exhumation seems like a magic bullet.
28:21
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. You dig up the casket, run a quick swab,
28:25
Speaker 1: print out a lab report and catch the killer before
28:27
Speaker 1: the commercial break.
28:28
Speaker 2: But the reality is a grueling, highly complex and often
28:33
Speaker 2: frustrating scientific challenge.
28:35
Speaker 1: Dr. Jellick explained just how much evidence actually survives in
28:39
Speaker 1: the grave. And it is far less than people think.
28:42
Speaker 2: Because the body isn't just sitting down there in a pristine,
28:45
Speaker 2: perfectly preserved condition. Waiting for a toxicologist to test it.
28:48
Speaker 1: Right. The burial process changes everything.
28:51
Speaker 2: The very act of preparing a body for a traditional
28:53
Speaker 2: viewing and burial introduces a massive host of complex chemicals
28:58
Speaker 2: into the tissue.
28:58
Speaker 1: Like embalming fluids?
28:59
Speaker 2: Primarily formalin, along with cosmetic perfumes, dyes, and preservatives. They
29:04
Speaker 2: absolutely saturate the body.
29:06
Speaker 1: What does formalin actually do?
29:08
Speaker 2: Formalin is a solution of formaldehyde in water. And it
29:11
Speaker 2: works by cross-linking proteins in the body's tissues.
29:14
Speaker 1: Cross-linking proteins.
29:15
Speaker 2: Literally alters the chemical structure of the flesh on a
29:18
Speaker 2: molecular level to prevent decay.
29:20
Speaker 1: So when toxicologists try to test those tissues months later,
29:24
Speaker 1: they aren't just looking for arsenic. They're trying to find
29:27
Speaker 1: arsenic molecules buried inside this massive web of heavy embalming chemicals.
29:32
Speaker 2: Exactly. The embalming chemicals can easily mask or degrade the
29:36
Speaker 2: chemical signatures of the poison.
29:38
Speaker 1: It's like finding a needle in a haystack full of
29:40
Speaker 1: other needles.
29:41
Speaker 2: Toxicologists have to chemically unweave the formalin just to find
29:45
Speaker 2: the trace elements of the toxin, assuming the toxin hasn't
29:48
Speaker 2: already completely degraded.
29:50
Speaker 1: Dr. Julek also made a fascinating scientific distinction between acute
29:54
Speaker 1: poisoning and and chronic poisoning when it comes to an exhumation.
29:58
Speaker 2: This is a crucial detail.
29:59
Speaker 1: If you're listening and wondering how they plan to prove
30:02
Speaker 1: Paulo was murdered months after the fact, this is the key.
30:05
Speaker 1: Can you explain how the timeline of his death changes
30:08
Speaker 1: the evidence left behind?
30:09
Speaker 2: Absolutely. If Paulo died acutely in September, meaning he was
30:13
Speaker 2: given one massive, sudden, lethal dose of arsenic in a
30:16
Speaker 2: single meal.
30:17
Speaker 1: Like what happened at Christmas. Right.
30:19
Speaker 2: If it was acute, that poison would have concentrated heavily
30:22
Speaker 2: in his soft tissues, his blood, and his urine. as
30:24
Speaker 2: his internal organs tried desperately to process and filter it out.
30:28
Speaker 1: But months later, after death, decomposition, and burial... That.
30:33
Speaker 2: Blood and urine are completely gone.
30:35
Speaker 1: Wow.
30:35
Speaker 2: The most saturated reservoirs of evidence are simply lost to
30:39
Speaker 2: time and decay.
30:40
Speaker 1: But what if it wasn't acute?
30:42
Speaker 2: Conversely, if he had been chronically poisoned, meaning he was
30:45
Speaker 2: given small, sublethal doses over a long period of weeks
30:49
Speaker 2: or months... the body would have processed the arsenic differently.
30:53
Speaker 1: How so?
30:54
Speaker 2: It would have had time to grow into the keratin
30:55
Speaker 2: of his hair and his fingernails, much like those Mies
30:58
Speaker 2: lines we discussed earlier with the survivors.
31:00
Speaker 1: Oh, and hair and nails don't decay as fast, do they?
31:04
Speaker 2: Hair and nails preserve incredibly well underground, making chronic, long-term
31:08
Speaker 2: poisoning much easier to detect during an exhumation than a sudden,
31:13
Speaker 2: acute attack.
31:14
Speaker 1: And there's another horrific complication to this exhumation process.
31:18
Speaker 2: The autopsy.
31:19
Speaker 1: Right. What if they already did an autopsy back in
31:22
Speaker 1: September when they initially thought it was just fatal food poisoning?
31:25
Speaker 2: If a standard autopsy was performed, the medical examiner would
31:28
Speaker 2: have opened the body cavity, sectioned the major organs.
31:31
Speaker 1: The liver, the kidneys, the stomach.
31:34
Speaker 2: Yes. They would have examined them for obvious signs of
31:37
Speaker 2: natural disease and then placed them back into the body
31:40
Speaker 2: before burial.
31:41
Speaker 1: And that messes up the evidence.
31:43
Speaker 2: Completely. Once that physical integrity is breached, those organs decompose
31:47
Speaker 2: much faster and entirely differently. than undisturbed organs.
31:52
Speaker 1: So what does this all mean for the prosecutors?
31:54
Speaker 2: It's a nightmare for them.
31:55
Speaker 1: It means the very process of preparing a loved one's
31:58
Speaker 1: body for a respectful burial or conducting a standard medical
32:02
Speaker 1: autopsy to find natural answers might actually destroy the exact
32:06
Speaker 1: forensic evidence needed to catch their killer. It's true. The
32:10
Speaker 1: embalming process, the cross-linking of proteins, the autopsy itself, it
32:14
Speaker 1: is literally erasing the forensic footprint of the murder.
32:17
Speaker 2: It is a profound and tragic irony. The medical examiner
32:21
Speaker 2: exhuming Paolo's body today is facing a severely, severely compromised environment.
32:25
Speaker 1: So what can they even do?
32:27
Speaker 2: They will look for any undisturbed tissue, perhaps drilling into
32:30
Speaker 2: the long bones from marrow or testing any remaining hair.
32:33
Speaker 2: But proving an acute poisoning months after the fact in
32:36
Speaker 2: an embalmed and potentially autopsied body is an incredibly tall
32:40
Speaker 2: order for the prosecution.
32:42
Speaker 1: It just adds this heavy, suffocating layer of grief and
32:45
Speaker 1: illegal anxiety to the whole thing.
32:47
Speaker 2: It really does.
32:48
Speaker 1: Let's take a step back from the cellular biology and
32:50
Speaker 1: the legal burdens of proof and just recap the sheer
32:53
Speaker 1: human devastation of this event.
32:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to remember the family at the center
32:57
Speaker 2: of this.
32:57
Speaker 1: You have a joyous, multi-generational family celebration in Torres. The
33:02
Speaker 1: table is set. The generational traditions are being honored by
33:06
Speaker 1: the matriarch.
33:07
Speaker 2: A picture-perfect holiday.
33:08
Speaker 1: And in the blink of an eye, it is entirely shattered.
33:11
Speaker 1: Three people are dead.
33:13
Speaker 2: Just gone.
33:14
Speaker 1: Three more are left with a long, agonizing medical road
33:18
Speaker 1: to recovery, carrying the physical scars of the poison in
33:21
Speaker 1: their very fingernails.
33:23
Speaker 2: A constant reminder.
33:24
Speaker 1: And the survivors are left grappling with the unimaginable, sickening
33:28
Speaker 1: idea that one of their own family members, someone who
33:31
Speaker 1: sat in their living rooms and smiled at their children,
33:34
Speaker 1: harbored a grudge so deep, a 20-year hatred so lethal...
33:39
Speaker 1: that she was allegedly willing to wipe out multiple generations
33:42
Speaker 1: to settle the score.
33:43
Speaker 2: It is the ultimate betrayal of trust. The intimate setting
33:47
Speaker 2: of a family meal, a space we universally code as safe,
33:51
Speaker 2: was exploited in the most malicious, calculated way possible.
33:55
Speaker 1: Which leaves me with a thought I really want you,
33:57
Speaker 1: the listener, to mull over today as you go about
34:01
Speaker 1: your routine. When this deep dive is over... I want
34:04
Speaker 1: you to walk into your own kitchen and just look
34:06
Speaker 1: at your pantry.
34:07
Speaker 2: It's a spooky thought.
34:08
Speaker 1: Look at the unsealed bag of flour rolled up on
34:10
Speaker 1: the shelf. Look at the sugar bowl, the spices sitting
34:13
Speaker 1: in the cupboard.
34:13
Speaker 2: We never think twice about them.
34:15
Speaker 1: We don't. We inherently blindly trust those ingredients. We trust
34:19
Speaker 1: the people in our homes who prepare our food.
34:21
Speaker 2: We have to. Right.
34:23
Speaker 1: We don't run toxicology screens on our dinner. But a
34:26
Speaker 1: story like the tragedy of the Bolo de Natal reveals
34:29
Speaker 1: how incredibly fragile that everyday social contract truly is.
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Speaker 2: It hangs by a thread.
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Speaker 1: When the lethal weapon isn't a gun or a knife
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Speaker 1: that you can see coming, but a staple ingredient folded
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Speaker 1: into a beloved holiday recipe. Yeah. How do we ever
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Speaker 1: truly know what we are consuming?
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Speaker 2: And who touched it?
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Speaker 1: And more importantly, yeah, how do we ever truly know
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Speaker 1: the minds of the people who have access to our
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Speaker 1: daily bread?
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Speaker 2: It is a chilling reminder that our most vulnerable moments
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Speaker 2: are often the ones where we feel the most secure.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us for this deep
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Speaker 1: dive into a truly unsettling and scientifically complex case. Keep
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Speaker 1: asking questions of the world around you, and we'll be
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Speaker 1: back to unpack the next mystery with you very soon.
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Speaker 1: Take care of yourselves and each other.