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- 0:00Speaker 0: Provided by Thomas Allgaier and Frennus, based on the most relevant LinkedIn posts about venture capital.
- 0:05Speaker 0: in CW-Thirty-Nine and Forty, Frennus specializes in BDB market research for venture capital teams, providing landscape screenings and startup segmentations with a strong focus on the tech space.
- 0:16Speaker 0: Welcome back.
- 0:18Speaker 0: Our mission for this deep dive is to really synthesize the top venture capital trends we've seen buzzing across LinkedIn over the last two calendar weeks.
- 0:26Speaker 0: And, well, if you had to capture the mood, it's definitely execution first.
- 0:30Speaker 0: Absolutely.
- 0:30Speaker 1: We're seeing a definite move past just the hype.
- 0:34Speaker 1: You know, we're digging into the mechanics.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Where is the capital actually going?
- 0:36Speaker 1: How are founders adapting their strategies?
- 0:38Speaker 1: Because this environment is incredibly tight.
- 0:41Speaker 1: And then there are these structural shifts happening within the whole BC ecosystem itself.
- 0:45Speaker 1: And all of this, well, it's happening under the massive shadow of AI.
- 0:48Speaker 1: You just can't avoid it.
- 0:49Speaker 0: Okay, let's tackle that shadow first.
- 0:50Speaker 0: then, because AI dominance, it isn't just another trend, is it?
- 0:54Speaker 0: It feels more like a capital concentration event.
- 0:57Speaker 0: I mean, bigger than anything we saw with crypto or mobility tech hype cycles.
- 1:01Speaker 1: Oh, it absolutely dwarfs them.
- 1:03Speaker 1: It's structural.
- 1:04Speaker 1: And the data, well, the data is pretty stunning.
- 1:06Speaker 1: If you look at what SAR of S and Pitchbook shared, it's more than half, fifty three point two percent globally of all VC dollars went into AI startups this year.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Wow,
- 1:16Speaker 0: over half globally.
- 1:17Speaker 1: And get this, in the U.S.
- 1:19Speaker 1: it's an eye-watering sixty-two point seven percent.
- 1:23Speaker 1: That kind of concentration means, well, every other sector is basically fighting over a shrinking slice of the pie.
- 1:28Speaker 0: And that concentration, it creates this huge friction, right?
- 1:31Speaker 0: It's fundamentally reshaping the economics.
- 1:33Speaker 0: Carded data confirms this.
- 1:35Speaker 0: There's a widening valuation gap.
- 1:37Speaker 0: You've got the AI haves and the non AI have nots.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:40Speaker 1: Peter Walker broke it down.
- 1:41Speaker 1: He noted the typical C to series A step up, you know, the multiple is usually around two point five X.
- 1:46Speaker 0: Okay, it's standard enough.
- 1:47Speaker 1: But for non AI companies, their multiples are actually lower than they were before.
- 1:52Speaker 0: Wait, lower.
- 1:53Speaker 0: So even if they're hitting milestones performing well, the market's pushing them back to like, twenty eighteen levels.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 1:59Speaker 1: It sounds like, honestly, existential pressure if you're a founder outside that AI bubble right now.
- 2:04Speaker 0: It really does.
- 2:05Speaker 0: Now contrast that with the AI multiples.
- 2:07Speaker 0: What are they seeing?
- 2:08Speaker 1: They're seeing three point five acts as a baseline.
- 2:12Speaker 1: and the really hot AI companies, they can command multiples closer to five X. We're talking almost back to those crazy twenty twenty one market heights.
- 2:19Speaker 0: So the leverage is definitely there for AI.
- 2:21Speaker 1: It is.
- 2:22Speaker 1: VCs see these AI solutions, especially B to B, as having, you know, built-in defensibility, incredible speed to market.
- 2:29Speaker 1: But we have to inject a note of caution here.
- 2:32Speaker 1: OK.
- 2:33Speaker 1: Francesco Berticarari offered a strong counter narrative.
- 2:36Speaker 1: He's warning about potential overvaluation, maybe even trillions evaporating down the line.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Trillions?
- 2:41Speaker 0: Why such a stark warning?
- 2:43Speaker 1: Well, he points to this extreme concentration.
- 2:45Speaker 1: Just nine U.S.
- 2:46Speaker 1: firms controlling half of all VC raised created a kind of FOMO driven gold rush.
- 2:51Speaker 1: Plus, concerns about potentially circular revenue models that might not hold up if, you know, the mythical AGI doesn't materialize as promised.
- 3:00Speaker 1: That sustainability question is very real.
- 3:02Speaker 1: That
- 3:02Speaker 0: whole valuation divergence fueled by both massive opportunity and maybe some fear that leads us right to the source of the money.
- 3:08Speaker 0: How are LPs, the limited partners, viewing all this?
- 3:11Speaker 0: How is it shaping where they put their cash?
- 3:13Speaker 1: LP psychology, it seems, has really shifted.
- 3:16Speaker 1: It's all about discipline now.
- 3:17Speaker 1: They're laser focused on entry pricing, controlled pacing, and they want managers who can really prove a differentiated strategy.
- 3:25Speaker 1: It's less about the broad narratives now.
- 3:27Speaker 1: Right.
- 3:27Speaker 0: More brass tacks.
- 3:29Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 3:30Speaker 1: And with liquidity expectations tightening everywhere, secondaries have become, well, a really practical tool for optimizing portfolios.
- 3:37Speaker 0: And when we look at the actual performance, the cash returns, what's the picture there?
- 3:41Speaker 1: It's a bit mixed, but improving.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Chris Harvey and Ruben Dominguez-Ibar reported that median IRRs and TVPIs, that's total value to pay it in capital, basically your cash on cash return, they're trending up for the earlier vintages.
- 3:55Speaker 0: Okay, like which ones?
- 3:56Speaker 1: The twenty seventeen vintage, for example, hit a median TVPI of two point zero X. So that signaling healthier returns are starting to come through.
- 4:03Speaker 1: That's
- 4:03Speaker 0: positive.
- 4:04Speaker 1: It is.
- 4:05Speaker 1: But dry powder overall is thinning out pretty fast.
- 4:08Speaker 1: That suggests aggressive deployment.
- 4:09Speaker 1: mostly by the mega funds.
- 4:11Speaker 1: But here's something fascinating.
- 4:12Speaker 1: The European paradox that Pavel Prada highlighted.
- 4:15Speaker 1: The
- 4:16Speaker 0: European paradox.
- 4:17Speaker 0: Tell me more.
- 4:18Speaker 1: So European VC is actually having its worst year in a decade in terms of total capital raised about six point nine billion across eighty seven funds.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Yet something like a dozen funds just closed in September alone.
- 4:31Speaker 0: OK, so fundraising is down overall, but deals are still closing.
- 4:35Speaker 0: Why that contradiction?
- 4:38Speaker 1: Well, the interpretation is that LP spent the last couple of years concentrating capital with the big established mega brands.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Now they're realizing maybe some of those managers struggled with the high entry prices from twenty twenty one.
- 4:49Speaker 1: So now they seem to be hunting for returns with smaller, perhaps hungrier, more disciplined managers.
- 4:55Speaker 1: Managers who have dry powder now and the ability to capture potentially better enterprises in today's market.
- 5:00Speaker 0: Makes sense.
- 5:01Speaker 1: Yeah, the median European fund size actually dropped from sixty six point six million down to forty eight point seven million.
- 5:08Speaker 1: It feels like a deliberate move by LPs to kind of de-risk and diversify away from that high-cost exposure.
- 5:13Speaker 0: And we're seeing other liquidity mechanisms mature too, right?
- 5:16Speaker 0: Like with corporate venture capital.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Definitely.
- 5:18Speaker 1: George Lange noted that fifty-seven percent of CVCs are either interested in or already using secondaries.
- 5:24Speaker 1: For CVCs, that's a really crucial tool, you know, for managing older assets and keeping the portfolio aligned with the parent company strategy.
- 5:32Speaker 0: And beyond CVCs, there's this push for more access, more democratization.
- 5:36Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Kevin Withing pointed out the London Stock Exchange and Crowdcube partnership.
- 5:41Speaker 1: That could potentially open up access for retail investors into later stage private companies.
- 5:46Speaker 0: Which could really reshape liquidity expectations.
- 5:48Speaker 0: Totally.
- 5:49Speaker 1: It might allow VCs to recycle capital sooner.
- 5:51Speaker 1: It feels like another big step towards private market maturity.
- 5:54Speaker 0: Okay, let's flip the perspective now.
- 5:56Speaker 0: Let's talk about the founders, the people actually trying to win a check in this super competitive execution focused world.
- 6:03Speaker 0: Kritika Verma just laid out the stark reality.
- 6:05Speaker 0: Less than one percent of startups actually secure VC funding.
- 6:09Speaker 1: It's brutal.
- 6:10Speaker 1: Less than one percent.
- 6:11Speaker 1: And the fix, as Sutan Yang and Paul Maj pointed out, isn't just about grit or hustle anymore.
- 6:16Speaker 1: It's about process.
- 6:17Speaker 0: Process.
- 6:17Speaker 0: Okay.
- 6:18Speaker 0: Yeah.
- 6:18Speaker 0: How so?
- 6:19Speaker 1: Well, Paul Maj really emphasized the preparation is like, eighty percent of the success here.
- 6:24Speaker 1: He detailed the essential materials.
- 6:26Speaker 1: A sharp pitch deck, obviously, but also a robust financial model, a properly researched investor pipeline.
- 6:32Speaker 0: Right.
- 6:32Speaker 0: The homework has to be done.
- 6:34Speaker 1: Totally.
- 6:35Speaker 1: And Sutan Yang stressed treating fundraising exactly like a BDB sales funnel.
- 6:39Speaker 1: You need to build a long list, tier your targets, and critically start pitching your C-list investors first.
- 6:46Speaker 1: Get the practice reps in.
- 6:47Speaker 1: Okay,
- 6:48Speaker 0: like address rehearsal before the main performance, makes sense.
- 6:51Speaker 0: And what about reaching out?
- 6:52Speaker 0: Cold emails.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Forget about it.
- 6:54Speaker 1: Sophie Shapiro put it really bluntly.
- 6:56Speaker 1: Cold outreach to investors is basically founder failure.
- 7:01Speaker 1: Warm intros are non-negotiable.
- 7:02Speaker 1: They're almost like competency tests.
- 7:04Speaker 1: Can you build the relationships needed?
- 7:06Speaker 1: Got
- 7:06Speaker 0: it.
- 7:06Speaker 0: So assuming you get the meeting, what about ownership?
- 7:08Speaker 0: That's always a huge point of negotiation.
- 7:10Speaker 1: It's the ultimate metric, right?
- 7:11Speaker 1: Nicole de Tomaso gave some median targets to A&M for.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Founders should look to own around fifty-six percent after their seed round and maybe thirty-six percent after series A.
- 7:20Speaker 0: Okay, benchmarks are helpful.
- 7:21Speaker 1: But interestingly, Alejandro Cremades noted that dilution rates are actually declining in AI-driven companies, especially at later stages.
- 7:30Speaker 1: It suggests that AI founders who have traction are managing to command better leverage.
- 7:35Speaker 0: Which brings us nicely to a specific tool for those negotiations.
- 7:39Speaker 0: One that helps protect that founder leverage, the reverse VC method.
- 7:43Speaker 0: Brian Ortiz champions this.
- 7:45Speaker 0: I like the sound of it.
- 7:46Speaker 0: It feels like a necessary counterbalance.
- 7:48Speaker 1: It really is.
- 7:49Speaker 1: The traditional VC method is usually driven entirely by the investor.
- 7:52Speaker 1: They start with their target IRR work backward, justify the valuation.
- 7:56Speaker 1: The reverse VC method flips that script.
- 7:59Speaker 1: It starts with the founder's specific capital needs and their desired ownership retention.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Then you work backward to see if that implied valuation still makes sense for an investor.
- 8:08Speaker 0: So it anchors the negotiation around the founder's needs first.
- 8:11Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 8:12Speaker 1: It's a crucial strategy, especially now, to guard against giving up too much equity too early, particularly when the market is hitting non-AI valuations so hard.
- 8:21Speaker 0: Okay, one more tactical tip on the pitching itself.
- 8:24Speaker 1: James
- 8:24Speaker 0: Hickson shared some pretty startling box-end data.
- 8:28Speaker 0: VC spend, on average, just a hundred and sixty-two seconds reviewing a pre-seed deck.
- 8:34Speaker 0: Wow.
- 8:34Speaker 1: A hundred and sixty-two seconds.
- 8:36Speaker 1: Two
- 8:36Speaker 0: minutes and forty-two seconds.
- 8:39Speaker 0: It completely changes the game, doesn't it?
- 8:40Speaker 0: You basically have those first three slides, maybe four, to land the entire story.
- 8:47Speaker 0: the clarity, the credibility, the conviction.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 8:50Speaker 1: No time for a slow buildup.
- 8:51Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 8:51Speaker 1: And how do you hook them instantly?
- 8:53Speaker 1: Leon Eisen has a great recommendation.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Lead with a capital gravity hook.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Capital gravity hook.
- 8:57Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 8:58Speaker 1: Basically, immediately associate your story with big money.
- 9:01Speaker 1: Start with a market size well over a billion dollars right there on slide one.
- 9:04Speaker 1: You need to instantly pull the VC's attention into that big potential return zone.
- 9:08Speaker 1: So
- 9:09Speaker 0: all this focus on execution, discipline, the AI concentration.
- 9:13Speaker 0: It seems to be leading to a bit of a contraction across the wider ecosystem.
- 9:17Speaker 0: Yeah,
- 9:17Speaker 1: Jackie DeMonte pointed out there are roughly half as many active venture firms today compared to five years ago.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Half.
- 9:22Speaker 0: That's significant.
- 9:24Speaker 1: It is.
- 9:24Speaker 1: And that contraction really impacts the non-obvious founders, the earliest stage, maybe non-consensus ideas.
- 9:32Speaker 1: Meanwhile, though, on the CVC side, that maturity we talked about, it's driving serious professionalization.
- 9:38Speaker 1: George Lanch highlighted this again.
- 9:39Speaker 1: How
- 9:40Speaker 0: so beyond secondary?
- 9:41Speaker 1: Well, CVCs are focusing heavily on governance, on decision-making speed.
- 9:45Speaker 1: They're becoming much more sophisticated portfolio managers.
- 9:48Speaker 1: We mentioned the twenty-two percent using secondaries.
- 9:51Speaker 1: But many are also seriously considering moving off the corporate balance sheet entirely.
- 9:55Speaker 0: To gain more independence from the parent company.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 9:58Speaker 1: Gain independence, maybe attract outside LPs eventually.
- 10:01Speaker 1: And unsurprisingly, AI is dominant there too.
- 10:05Speaker 1: Sixty-nine percent of CVCs are now actively targeting AI investments.
- 10:09Speaker 0: Okay, so CVCs are professionalizing.
- 10:11Speaker 0: What about the traditional VCs?
- 10:13Speaker 0: Any shifts there?
- 10:14Speaker 0: Huge
- 10:14Speaker 1: shifts.
- 10:15Speaker 1: Suzanne Hahn argues that VCs are evolving into what she calls full-stack platforms.
- 10:20Speaker 1: They're increasingly acting more like private equity firms.
- 10:22Speaker 0: How do you mean like PE?
- 10:24Speaker 0: Well,
- 10:24Speaker 1: more firms are registering as RIAs registered investment advisors, which brings stricter financial regulation.
- 10:31Speaker 1: And they're executing more PE style buyouts, aiming for control, not just minority stakes.
- 10:37Speaker 0: Interesting.
- 10:38Speaker 0: So they're moving away from the classic sort of spray and pray model of early stage investing, less about just writing checks.
- 10:45Speaker 1: Precisely.
- 10:45Speaker 1: The focus is shifting towards owning outcomes.
- 10:48Speaker 1: really getting involved, demanding control, acting more like operators.
- 10:53Speaker 1: It signals capital becoming much more strategic, less purely speculative.
- 10:58Speaker 1: It's a move towards institutional maturity.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Definitely.
- 11:00Speaker 1: When
- 11:00Speaker 0: we're seeing regional markets reflect this maturity too, right?
- 11:03Speaker 0: Setting new standards.
- 11:04Speaker 1: Yeah, Maria Mollendorf reported that New York's venture market, for example, now hosts over one hundred active VC firms.
- 11:11Speaker 1: But the key thing is this growth is paired with a really strong demand for financial discipline from those firms.
- 11:17Speaker 0: High growth, but with discipline.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Exactly, which in theory lowers execution risk.
- 11:22Speaker 1: and that dual focus high growth plus operational efficiency that really defines this new execution first era of venture capital we're seeing.
- 11:29Speaker 0: If you enjoyed this deep dive, new episodes drop every two weeks.
- 11:32Speaker 0: Also check out our other editions on private equity, M&A, and strategy and consulting.
- 11:36Speaker 1: And maybe a final thought to leave you with.
- 11:38Speaker 1: As we see this structural move toward professionalism, toward control, like Suzanne Hahn described, It really does raise a key question.
- 11:46Speaker 1: Leslie Finezeg posted it recently.
- 11:48Speaker 1: If VC starts looking and acting more like Wall Street, you know, with large funds chasing consensus A ideals based on discipline, is it still real VC?
- 11:57Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 11:58Speaker 1: She defines real VC as investing in the crazy, non-consensus ideas, the ones that seem too early, too weird, maybe too risky for the mainstream.
- 12:07Speaker 1: So something to consider as you navigate this rapidly professionalizing market.
- 12:10Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us today.