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TEPE MURDERS: SURGEON EX-HUBBY PLOTS BAIL BID, HOUSE FOR SALE · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: The brutal double murders a man and wife, Spencer and
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Speaker 2: Monique Teppie. Hey, doctor McKee, did you think we forgot
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Speaker 2: about what you did?
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Speaker 3: According to police?
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Speaker 2: That's right, Michael McKee, the ex husband, the surgeon wants
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Speaker 2: married to Monique behind bars tonight, gnashing his teeth and
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Speaker 2: switching his.
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Speaker 3: Tail as he plots a bell bid.
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Speaker 2: That's right, Doctor McKee wants to walk free over my
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Speaker 2: cold dead body.
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Speaker 3: This as we go to air.
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Speaker 2: The search warrant return has been released, and we have
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Speaker 2: learned what.
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Speaker 3: Was seized inside the Teppee home.
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Speaker 2: And speaking of guess what the Teppe home is up
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Speaker 2: for sale? Really, bye bye crime scene. I Meancy Grace,
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Speaker 2: this is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for
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Speaker 2: being with us.
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Speaker 4: There's a body, there's a body, here's a body inside.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Spencer lives about seventy three miles from work, so if
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Speaker 4: you put the timeline together, he's what less than an
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Speaker 4: hour late to work and someone's calling nine one one
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Speaker 4: for a wellness check to me, that stands out. Let
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Speaker 4: me get you on the line with the mandic.
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Speaker 2: Okay, he appears, Doctor Michael McKee, the ex husband, that
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Speaker 2: was seemingly obsessed with his ex wife Monique. He kept
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Speaker 2: contacting her saying, you're still my wife, You're yeah him?
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Speaker 2: How'd you like to see that standing over your bed
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Speaker 2: in the middle of the night. I know I wouldn't
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Speaker 2: this As we are learning, Monique Teppy was shot multiple
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Speaker 2: times at the beginning, Remember we were told she was
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Speaker 2: shot once in the chest.
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Speaker 3: That's not true.
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Speaker 2: She was shot multiple times, including in her face. But
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Speaker 2: tonight a lot happen opening in the Tepee double murder
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Speaker 2: number one. Doctor McKee has been in court and he's
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Speaker 2: set to be right back.
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Speaker 3: In court planning his bail bit.
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Speaker 2: But let's take a look at what happened at this
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Speaker 2: most recent court appearance.
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Speaker 4: Thank you under dam and ashing on behalf of Mike
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Speaker 4: for the Keith you and with respect to the allegations,
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Speaker 4: we would acknowledge receipt, wave reading and you're not guilty
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Speaker 4: place to all counts contain their end. We would also
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Speaker 4: wave bond at this time, although we certainly reserve the
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Speaker 4: right to raise that at a later date. The plea
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Speaker 4: of not guilty form has been executed and signed off behalf.
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Speaker 3: Of my client.
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Speaker 6: Thank you for thank you. Cancel I've signed the not
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Speaker 6: guilty plea.
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Speaker 5: I'm signing the bond form indicating the bond has been waived.
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Speaker 6: Any further.
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Speaker 5: Thank you, thank.
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Speaker 6: You, thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 2: That from our friends at NBC four Columbus straight out
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Speaker 2: to an all star panel joining us tonight to make
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Speaker 2: sense of what we are learning. First of all, I've
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Speaker 2: seen a lot of defendants in court again, I don't
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Speaker 2: want to wake up with him standing over my bed.
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Speaker 2: To doctor Bethany Marshall joining us where now psychoanalyst out
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Speaker 2: of the LA jurisdiction. She's the author of deal Breakers
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Speaker 2: and you can see her now on Bravo and Peacock
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Speaker 2: and find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Dr
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Speaker 2: Bethany talk about trying to humanize your client. Apparently this
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Speaker 2: guy needs a lot of work. Did you see him
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Speaker 2: standing there? It looked like he wanted to just bite
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Speaker 2: the neck out of his defense lawyer.
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Speaker 4: Yes, I did, Nancy. He looks like he has a
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Speaker 4: lot of contempt. Contempt. Well, we know already he had
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Speaker 4: contempt for the law, contempt for Monique and Spencer. The
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Speaker 4: fact that he shot her in the face. I just
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Speaker 4: I cannot get that out of my mind that he
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Speaker 4: wanted to destroy her beauty. And when you think about
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Speaker 4: how he is in court, he really feels like he's
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Speaker 4: above the law. Nancy. He always felt like he was
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Speaker 4: above the law. You know, even where he had his
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Speaker 4: surgical practice, often he didn't even show up for work.
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Speaker 4: So when we think of sociopathy as a profound disorder,
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Speaker 4: we think of lack of regard for the rules of society.
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Speaker 4: And this is what we see in court. Lack of
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Speaker 4: regard for the rules of society.
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Speaker 2: And trying to hear what you're saying, guys, that's from
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Speaker 2: our friends at ws y X. I'm trying to hear
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Speaker 2: what you're saying, Bethany. But and I'm glad they did.
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Speaker 2: The control room was showing him again in court. He
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Speaker 2: looks like he is just barely like holding it in
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Speaker 2: the anger.
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Speaker 3: Let's just look at that. Look at mmmmmmm.
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Speaker 2: They've got to work with that before they take him
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Speaker 2: to a jury trial. So straight out to Dave Matt
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Speaker 2: Crime Stories investigative reporter, that was him in court.
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Speaker 3: But did you hear what doctor Bethany.
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Speaker 2: Marshall just said about his arrogance and his behavior in court?
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Speaker 3: He was actually yawning during book.
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Speaker 2: Can he was just so above it all. Let's see
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Speaker 2: if we can pull that up. This is doctor Michael
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Speaker 2: McKee at his bookend. I mean, the arrogance this guy has. Okay,
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Speaker 2: now tell me why is he all of a sudden
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Speaker 2: coming right back into court, Dave Mac.
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Speaker 7: Well, Nancy, the heading back into court is about getting
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Speaker 7: out on bail. You know, the very first hearing with
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Speaker 7: his attorney, they didn't. They said we're not going to
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Speaker 7: seek bail at this time. But now they want to
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Speaker 7: go back in there. They're going to push to get
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Speaker 7: this man out of jail. And I don't know how
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Speaker 7: that's going to play out, Nancy, but that's what they're
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Speaker 7: going to do. They're going to try to get McKee
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Speaker 7: out on bail.
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Speaker 2: Well, what they're claiming is that they're coming into court
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Speaker 2: for many, many legal reasons, and they've hired a high
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Speaker 2: profile lawyer. They are looking over search warrants, they are
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Speaker 2: looking over media items.
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Speaker 3: Photo evidence.
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Speaker 2: A lot is going to be happening in court. But
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Speaker 2: I predict that you're right, Dave mac. I think there
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Speaker 2: will be a renewed push for him to walk free.
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Speaker 2: But with two dead bodies and evidence of lying in wait,
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Speaker 2: fat chance this guy would be a threat to himself
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Speaker 2: and to witnesses. Because remember, if you will recall Joe
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Speaker 2: Scott Morgan joining US forensics expert Professor forensis Jacksonville State University,
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Speaker 2: author of Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon, star of
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Speaker 2: a hit podcast series Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan,
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Speaker 2: but more importantly, death investigator with over ten thousand death
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Speaker 2: seeds of all natures. And you've only got five choices,
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Speaker 2: natural like a heart attack, accident like a car accident,
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Speaker 2: suicide undetermined, and of course homicide. Those are your only
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Speaker 2: five choices. But he's also been an expert witness in many,
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Speaker 2: many cases. Do you remember, Joe Scott, He went on
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Speaker 2: the run, he hid out after them, he took off,
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Speaker 2: he went back over four hundred.
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Speaker 3: Miles, scraped.
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Speaker 2: The insignia is off of his car so it could
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Speaker 2: relate back to the crime scene, and hit out in
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Speaker 2: plain sight. So if he ran once from the scene
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Speaker 2: of a crime.
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Speaker 3: He'll do it again.
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Speaker 2: When you don't know a horse, Joe Scott, look at
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Speaker 2: his track record.
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Speaker 8: Look at his track record, indeed, Nancy, and why would
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Speaker 8: you even consider cutting this guy loose? And here's one
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Speaker 8: other thing. And we have to understand this. This guy
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Speaker 8: is a surgeon. What does that mean. Well, if an
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Speaker 8: individual is in fact a surgeon, that means that they
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Speaker 8: might have disposable income. And what can you do with
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Speaker 8: disposable income? You can bolt not just to another state, Nancy,
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Speaker 8: but possibly across our borders into a place where he
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Speaker 8: cannot be extradited. Why even take the chance, Nancy, this case,
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Speaker 8: this case was a slaughter. Okay, when you think about it,
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Speaker 8: we're talking about a double homicide with two small children
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Speaker 8: in the house. This guy is somebody you have to
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Speaker 8: keep your eye on because if he'll do it once,
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Speaker 8: there's a possibility he could do it again. And listen,
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Speaker 8: not just street, not just the safety of our citizens,
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Speaker 8: but also a lack of accountability. Why take t out?
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Speaker 2: Look, look, look, look, look, look, here it comes. He's
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Speaker 2: just here comes the big old yawn. There you go,
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Speaker 2: just like Dr Beth and he helped me out. He's
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Speaker 2: just so above it all. It's just so boring.
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Speaker 3: He has to yeng and adjusts his glasses.
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Speaker 4: Really, he really is above it all, Nancy, in his
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Speaker 4: own mind. Imagine having him as your surgeon and waking
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Speaker 4: up and seeing that kind of face Nancy. When I
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Speaker 4: see him on the monitor, there is so much aggression
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Speaker 4: in his demeanor, and I have to think that he
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Speaker 4: is still obsessed with Monique, still upset that she remarried
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Speaker 4: and that she had a beautiful life that he wanted
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Speaker 4: to destroy Nancy. Men like this, if if the love
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Speaker 4: object gets away, they want to cut their arms and
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Speaker 4: legs off, They want to box them in. They do
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Speaker 4: not want them to have a good life. So his
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Speaker 4: anger is extending, even though he already killed her, Nancy,
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Speaker 4: He's still enraged. I can see it on his face.
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Speaker 2: It will be a cold day in HWL that I
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Speaker 2: would let this guy out on bond. So, guys, you're
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Speaker 2: seeing video. Some of it has been from our friends
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Speaker 2: at WSYX, and thank you to WSYX for this.
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Speaker 3: You're getting a tiny taste of.
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Speaker 2: What the jury will see when this finally goes to trial.
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Speaker 2: Providing that next week the judge doesn't give this guy
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Speaker 2: bond and let him walk free, walk free straight to
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Speaker 2: a private airport and take off. A lot happening in
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Speaker 2: the case tonight. Number one, he's plotting a bondbid and
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Speaker 2: that's coming up in a couple of days. Number two
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Speaker 2: in the last days unsealed what was obtained from the
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Speaker 2: crime scene? Straight out to Dave Matt with crime stories.
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Speaker 3: What do we know, Nancy?
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Speaker 7: There were twenty nine pieces of evidence taken from the
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Speaker 7: crime scene, But the warrant is not specific as to
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Speaker 7: what we actually got in there looking at it, it
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Speaker 7: just says twenty nine pieces of evidence. However, the filing
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Speaker 7: does specify that investigators were able to document fifteen latent fingerprints,
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Speaker 7: another three hundred and ninety five photographs, and they gathered
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Speaker 7: swabs and an additional fourteen images. They've got potential blood
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Speaker 7: and or DNA on those swabs, by the way, so
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Speaker 7: nearly four hundred photos the evidence that we go back to, Nancy.
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Speaker 7: They're not specific as to what those items are.
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Speaker 2: Dave no fence, But do you believe that police are
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Speaker 2: going to lay out a description for each photo for you? No,
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Speaker 2: it's really none of our business. First of all, what
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Speaker 2: is a return on a search warrant? In order to
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Speaker 2: get a search warrant, the law enforcement officer must go
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Speaker 2: to a judge, a magistrate. They're on call twenty four seven,
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Speaker 2: three sixty five. You can even do some of them
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Speaker 2: over the phone. A lot of judges. I always had
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Speaker 2: to go in front of the judge in camera behind
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Speaker 2: closed doors, state what I had bring on a witness,
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Speaker 2: put them under oath or her to say what the
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Speaker 2: PC was before I could get a warrant. I like
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Speaker 2: doing it old school because then there are no questions.
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Speaker 2: But you can do it over the phone. That said,
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Speaker 2: once you give the judge the PC probable cause why
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Speaker 2: you need to violate someone's privacy in their own home,
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Speaker 2: their car, whatever you want to search, You've got to
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Speaker 2: meet a threshold as to what you believe you're going
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Speaker 2: to find. Once you get that signed, then you go
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Speaker 2: in and you search, and even if you find things
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Speaker 2: you did not enunciate in your PC warrant the affidavit,
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Speaker 2: if you see other evidence of the crime or anything
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Speaker 2: relative to the crime, you can then seize it.
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Speaker 3: Then you have to fill out a quote.
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Speaker 2: Return what you are returning back to law enforcement headquarters
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Speaker 2: with what did you take?
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Speaker 3: What's your return? That is what we're seeing.
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Speaker 2: Now, give me a quick recap again, what's on the return?
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Speaker 7: Dave mats twenty nine pieces of evidence, Nancy three hundred
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Speaker 7: and ninety five new photographs, and they did have a
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Speaker 7: cotton swab. They took swabs for DNA and blood looking
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Speaker 7: at DNA as you see right there on the screen.
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Speaker 7: So a lot of information pulled from this search war.
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Speaker 3: Okay, you are seeing the actual return.
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Speaker 2: Twenty nine pieces of evidence latent Prince swabs. Okay, I'm
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Speaker 2: very curious about the swabs. Straight out to Joe Scott Morgan.
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Speaker 2: Joe Scott explained to me, we think of swabs as
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Speaker 2: in sense of buckle or buckle swabs, which is like
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Speaker 2: a really long queue tip that.
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Speaker 3: You put in your mouth.
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Speaker 2: Well, you don't do it. The law enforcement or the
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Speaker 2: nurse or the doctor does it. It's some and they
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Speaker 2: rub it against your cheek and then they secure it
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Speaker 2: and that gives DNA. That's what a lot of people
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Speaker 2: think of as a swab. So in this case, we're
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Speaker 2: talking about the Teppie Home. In the last hours, the
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Speaker 2: search return has been released, and if you are in
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Speaker 2: the system, if you are a court watch or a
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Speaker 2: legal eagle, you know that you can tell where the
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Speaker 2: investigation is by reading the return. What do they have
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Speaker 2: to work with? Explain how you get a swab at
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Speaker 2: a crime scene. We're talking about the Tepee home.
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Speaker 8: Think this way. Two types of swabs, dry swabs, wet swabs.
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Speaker 8: So what do you do? Let's talk about wet swabs first.
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Speaker 8: Wet swabs is where you actually take think about a
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Speaker 8: Q tip okay, and it is protected, it's sealed when
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Speaker 8: we get it out of the packaging. If you have
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Speaker 8: a deposition of blood or some kind of other bodily
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Speaker 8: fluid that's on seen okay, and it is wet, that
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Speaker 8: surface is wet, you literally take that swab and roll it,
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Speaker 8: roll it across that wet area and retrieve it. Now
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Speaker 8: you have to let it dry for a few seconds, okay,
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Speaker 8: then you seal it. And you would do this in
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Speaker 8: multiple locations where you have wet deposition.
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Speaker 6: Okay.
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Speaker 8: Number two, we think about dry swabs, Well what does
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Speaker 8: that mean? Well, what we will do is at a
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Speaker 8: scene where we suspect there could be DNA deposition, think
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Speaker 8: doorknob okay, think wind to seal, Think even bodies. Sometimes,
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Speaker 8: if you think that someone has been touched, you take
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Speaker 8: distilled water, you place it on the swab and you
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Speaker 8: roll it over that area or make a press contact
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Speaker 8: on it. You let that dry and you seal it up.
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Speaker 8: What are we looking for, Well, we're looking for literally
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Speaker 8: the molecule of life, that thing that can identify an
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Speaker 8: individual that is not known to live in that environment.
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Speaker 8: Now you have to eliminate the people that live there.
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Speaker 8: But if you find unknown DNA sample in that environment,
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Speaker 8: whose is it, well, you create a profile and you
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Speaker 8: compare it against who is in that environment. And this
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Speaker 8: is key, Nancy, because this is very, very fragile. You
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Speaker 8: have to be very careful when you're lifting these swabs.
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Speaker 8: You can't have every single person in the world wandering
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Speaker 8: through this environment. You have to be kitted out. You
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Speaker 8: have to go in there and know what you're looking
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Speaker 8: for or know where you think the probability of deposition
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Speaker 8: is and retrieve it.
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Speaker 2: Guys, you're seeing photos of Monique and Spencer in life
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Speaker 2: before they were shot dead multiple times in their own
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Speaker 2: beds in the dead of night, with their two children,
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Speaker 2: two little girls in the room next to them. Now,
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Speaker 2: I wonder how many times doctor Michael McKee looked at
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Speaker 2: this video of their wedding. It was posted by a
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Speaker 2: relative online, and you know McKee watched it over and
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Speaker 2: over and over, staring at who he considered to still
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Speaker 2: be his wife at her new wedding. And doctor Bethany Marshall.
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Speaker 2: He's getting the lay of the land.
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Speaker 3: In this video. He can see all the.
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Speaker 2: Entrances, all the exits, the layout of each He doesn't
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Speaker 2: have to look up the floor plans like we did.
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Speaker 2: He can see them and say how he's going to
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Speaker 2: get up to their bedroom. The bedrooms are up on
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Speaker 2: the top.
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Speaker 3: Floor, Nancy.
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Speaker 4: He's also vengeful as he's watching these videos. He thinks,
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Speaker 4: as you said, that Monique is still his wife, and
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Speaker 4: he's enraged that she has a beautiful life, a husband
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Speaker 4: she loves that is just not allowed in his mind.
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Speaker 4: So he is getting the lay of the land, Nancy.
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Speaker 4: He's looking at everything. He's looking at her dress and
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Speaker 4: wondering where she got it, how much did it cost,
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Speaker 4: did she spend money that should have been his, did
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Speaker 4: she take money from the marriage. She's looking at Spencer.
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Speaker 4: When did she meet Spencer? Did she meet Spencer when
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Speaker 4: she was still with him? Is she cheating on him
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Speaker 4: with Spencer? So it's a very deranged way of thinking
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Speaker 4: as he's looking at these tapes. But yes, he's getting
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Speaker 4: the lay of the land, and Nancy, he's thinking of
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Speaker 4: all kinds of ways that he can hurt her, harm her,
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Speaker 4: and so there's a lot of fantasies about the harm
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Speaker 4: that he will he will inflict.
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Speaker 2: You know, the crime scene must have been horrific. I'm
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Speaker 2: I had to steal myself every time I went on
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Speaker 2: a crime scene to analyze it because in my mind,
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Speaker 2: Corey Chalmers, I was replaying the whole murder or whatever
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Speaker 2: happened at the crime scene, and I really had to compartmentalize.
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Speaker 3: Why I was there.
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Speaker 2: I was not there to relive the crime scene in
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Speaker 2: my mind, I'll save that for opening and closing arguments.
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Speaker 3: Was there to find evidence?
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Speaker 2: Now this was a double murder in the bedroom. What
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Speaker 2: you've seen that plenty of times. What would you expect
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Speaker 2: to have found at that scene, Corey Chalmers.
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Speaker 9: Obviously they were shot multiple times each, so whenever you
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Speaker 9: have it depends on the caliber of the gun, but
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Speaker 9: you're going to have entrance wounds, exit wounds.
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Speaker 6: If they were in bed.
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Speaker 9: You obviously have a very saturated mattress with a lot
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Speaker 9: of blood. And then if anyone got up, you know,
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Speaker 9: most people don't just lay there and get shot unless
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Speaker 9: they're killed right away. So would imagine he probably shot
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Speaker 9: him first. I don't know the details, take out the threat,
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Speaker 9: make her watch, you know, But then if she got
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Speaker 9: up and ran, then you're gonna have blood everywhere while
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Speaker 9: one of them, both of them struggle for their life.
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Speaker 6: So it could be a very graphic and horrific.
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Speaker 9: Scene, and it's impossible not to try to imagine what happened.
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Speaker 6: You don't want to.
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Speaker 9: In fact, when I go clean a crime scene, I
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Speaker 9: take all the pictures off the walls and show people smiling,
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Speaker 9: and because it's just it bothers me so much to
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Speaker 9: see the smiling faces of what used to be and
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Speaker 9: taken away by such brutal acts of some you know,
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Speaker 9: vengeful acts.
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Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, I want to hear that again because
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Speaker 2: in my world when I was prosecuting homicides, it's very
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Speaker 2: difficult to get in photos of the victims in life
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Speaker 2: before the jury. It's almost always suppressed unless you can
20:53
Speaker 2: give the judge a valid reason why the jury should
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Speaker 2: see the victims in life. Trust me, Corey Chalmers, I
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Speaker 2: always had a reason because I would look over at
21:05
Speaker 2: the defendants sitting.
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Speaker 3: Over there, well groomed and.
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Speaker 2: Nice suits, flanked by all of his defense attorneys, looking fine,
21:12
Speaker 2: and it would infuriate me that the jury would never
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Speaker 2: know the victim in life.
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Speaker 3: But don't worry, I.
21:19
Speaker 2: Would find a legal, valid reason for those photos to
21:24
Speaker 2: come in every time.
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Speaker 3: So it was very important to me to look.
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Speaker 2: At the very photos that you can't stand to look at.
21:34
Speaker 2: So when you go into a crime scene, you take
21:38
Speaker 2: down the photos of the victims.
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Speaker 3: That's very interesting.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I just lay them down.
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Speaker 9: I don't hide them, remove them because again, usually when
21:45
Speaker 9: we're there, the cases closed, the scene's been dismissed or
21:49
Speaker 9: released to the family, So anything left behind I'm not
21:51
Speaker 9: typically disturbing evidence, but it isn't uncommon that after we
21:55
Speaker 9: leave there is a new development and something happens, and
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Speaker 9: it would be nice to come back and get evidence,
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Speaker 9: but we literally have removed it all.
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Speaker 2: This is the province of the crime scene investigators. And
22:08
Speaker 2: it's not like on TV, like CSI or Law and Order.
22:12
Speaker 2: It's not like that at all. It's much more upsetting.
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Speaker 2: It's much more gory. It smells bad, it's sticky. It's
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Speaker 2: like a blood cyclone hit in the middle of somebody's life,
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Speaker 2: Like you would see personal items like a ladies makeup
22:31
Speaker 2: and all of her stuff sitting at where she was
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Speaker 2: getting ready to go somewhere, or in like the Jennifer
22:36
Speaker 2: Kessei case, you could see where she had laid out
22:39
Speaker 2: her clothes to wear to work that day, and the
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Speaker 2: damp towel, but she never made it. In this scene,
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Speaker 2: there may have been dishes steal in the kitchen sink
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Speaker 2: from dinner.
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Speaker 3: There may have been the little girl's clothes laid out
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Speaker 3: for the next day.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just imagining, and in the middle of
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Speaker 2: this seemingly wonderful, completely ordinary, amazing life a blood cyclone.
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Speaker 2: So you're hearing Corey Chalmers joining us from Stereoclean and
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Speaker 2: then think about what somebody like Joe Scott Morgan has
23:16
Speaker 2: to do to go in and pick through all of
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Speaker 2: that and find what I'm.
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Speaker 3: Looking for, probative evidence.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 9: You know it's been speculated a couple of times, and
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Speaker 9: it's a professional hit.
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Speaker 6: A professional is going to take the casings with him.
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Speaker 3: Who would shoot these two dead? It doesn't sound like
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Speaker 3: a pro to me.
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Speaker 2: Tonight and the Teppie double murder of mom and dad,
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Speaker 2: Spencer and Manique Teppi, their two children and the dog
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Speaker 2: now living with relatives we've confirmed.
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Speaker 3: A couple of bombshells.
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Speaker 2: Number One, doctor Michael McKee headed right back to court.
24:55
Speaker 2: I can only imagine he'll make the same horrible impression
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Speaker 2: that he did. Hey, while we're talking about it, can
25:01
Speaker 2: you show me his video if his court appearance. I mean,
25:06
Speaker 2: like a jury's gonna let this guy walk. He's just
25:08
Speaker 2: like clenching his teeth and gnashing them. Ooh, that's like
25:14
Speaker 2: he looks like, seriously like he wants to bite the
25:16
Speaker 2: throat out of the judge. That's from our friends at WSYX. Yeah,
25:19
Speaker 2: you're not getting bond. Just let me tell you ahead
25:21
Speaker 2: of time. Just save the lawyer's bill. It's not happening.
25:24
Speaker 2: Number one, he's preparing for his bond hearing, which is
25:27
Speaker 2: coming up. This was his last appearance where he pled
25:29
Speaker 2: not guilty. Number two, we got our hands on the
25:32
Speaker 2: search warrant return, which is what we're telling you about
25:34
Speaker 2: right now.
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Speaker 3: Why do we care.
25:36
Speaker 2: Because based on that evidence, the state will build its case.
25:40
Speaker 2: And number three, the home the murder scene is up
25:45
Speaker 2: for sale.
25:46
Speaker 3: I don't like that.
25:47
Speaker 2: That said, let's go back to the warrant straight out
25:50
Speaker 2: to Joe Scott Morgan. Now we heard Dave max Stak
25:53
Speaker 2: twenty nine pieces of evidence seized.
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Speaker 3: How do you go into the scene that you just.
25:59
Speaker 2: Heard Cory Chalmers of Sterey Clean describe how he can't
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Speaker 2: stand it, has to take down the photos of the
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Speaker 2: victims as he's cleaning up the blood cyclone that I
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Speaker 2: call it. How do you go into a scene like
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Speaker 2: that and find and it's so sterile the way he's
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Speaker 2: written on the return twenty nine pieces of evidence? And
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Speaker 2: what do you think that evidence is?
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Speaker 8: Well, I can tell you what the majority of it is, Nancy.
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Speaker 8: We'll do a little math here. Both of these victims,
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Speaker 8: Monique and Spencer, have been shot a total of sixteen times.
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Speaker 8: She's shot nine, he shot seven. So if you'll think
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Speaker 8: about it, her shot her Kudi gra if you will,
26:41
Speaker 8: that fatal bit is right here. If people will just
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Speaker 8: take their index finger and it's a fatal gunshot wound
26:49
Speaker 8: that she has sustained. Nancy, she had eight other gunshot
26:53
Speaker 8: wounds over the surface of her body. She's got a
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Speaker 8: couple in her arms as well, where I think she
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Speaker 8: may have responded. So we don't know responded to pain.
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Speaker 8: We don't know which one was first. But when you
27:05
Speaker 8: think about this, this is a semi automatic weapon. Okay,
27:10
Speaker 8: that is being fired, and as it's being fired, the
27:13
Speaker 8: rounds are the spent rounds are being ejected. They're going
27:16
Speaker 8: to be all over the place. Because whoever did this,
27:20
Speaker 8: and obviously they have someone in mind. Here moves from
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Speaker 8: one side of the bed. Monique is on the right side,
27:27
Speaker 8: all of her injuries on the right side. Spencer all
27:30
Speaker 8: of his are on the left side. So the individual
27:33
Speaker 8: would have had to have kind of orbited the bed
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Speaker 8: as he is shooting them and ejecting these rounds. The
27:39
Speaker 8: ejection port of the weapon demonstrated right here. Okay, so
27:44
Speaker 8: it's being ejected out. That's just some of the evidence.
27:47
Speaker 8: So you're talking about twenty nine bits of evidence. At
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Speaker 8: least sixteen of those, in my opinion, we spent brass
27:54
Speaker 8: that are laying all over the place. And this is
27:56
Speaker 8: difficult when you think about how blood soak. This is
28:01
Speaker 8: what will happen is you can't predict where a round
28:04
Speaker 8: or a spent round is going to eject. Okay, it
28:07
Speaker 8: could land in the bed, it could land on the floor,
28:10
Speaker 8: can bounce off the wall, go back into the bed,
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Speaker 8: hide behind drakes. You never know. So this is a
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Speaker 8: very painstaking process, and you might find rounds that are
28:20
Speaker 8: literally kind of suspended in blood that's on the floor,
28:24
Speaker 8: So you have to examine the blood first, get photographs
28:27
Speaker 8: of that, and then retrieve the spent casing out of there.
28:30
Speaker 8: And this is all essential to trying to show the
28:33
Speaker 8: timeline of what happened and also what resources this person
28:37
Speaker 8: brought to bear that would wind up in such a
28:40
Speaker 8: horrific scene. I call it observing the abnormal in the
28:44
Speaker 8: context of the normal, because you see life there and
28:48
Speaker 8: you see that life ended there.
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Speaker 2: I find it amazing, just Scott, that you or someone
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Speaker 2: like you can go into a scene such as Corey
28:59
Speaker 2: Chalmers just a scribe for us, keep a level head
29:03
Speaker 2: and pick through all of that and find shellcasing's bullets
29:10
Speaker 2: that have lodged in walls and furniture, hair fibers, DNA.
29:17
Speaker 2: How would you go about finding DNA on surfaces? Would
29:22
Speaker 2: you need to use an als alternative light source?
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Speaker 8: Yeah? Potentially. When you think about this, nothing is off
29:31
Speaker 8: the table, Nancy. Okay, in a scene like this, because
29:35
Speaker 8: you know that that individual spent some time in the scene. Okay,
29:39
Speaker 8: he approached this location, he made his way in here,
29:44
Speaker 8: and you have this kind of circumferential event that goes
29:49
Speaker 8: all the way around just in the bedroom alone, so
29:52
Speaker 8: all bets are off, you have to make sure that
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Speaker 8: you cover it. So you're talking about alternative light sources. Yeah, absolutely,
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Speaker 8: we would want to do that. We would want to
30:01
Speaker 8: take as many photographs. And did you see how many
30:04
Speaker 8: photographs that they took. It was in excess of three hundred.
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Speaker 8: We don't know if they were using alternative light sourcing
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Speaker 8: in there. If I were a betting man, and I am,
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Speaker 8: I think that that was probably that may have played
30:15
Speaker 8: into it. My big problem with this, Nancy, and I
30:20
Speaker 8: know you've already mentioned this. They don't have an opportunity
30:23
Speaker 8: to go back there, do they. They'd better have gotten
30:25
Speaker 8: at this time.
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Speaker 3: This could be the cure.
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Speaker 4: Is not the guy if it isn't looks like he
31:15
Speaker 4: knows where he's going.
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Speaker 8: I had the sense to say, it's like, we're very,
31:19
Speaker 8: very concerned, and this is very out of character.
31:21
Speaker 6: And we can't get in judge with his wife, which
31:23
Speaker 6: is probably the.
31:23
Speaker 7: More concerning thing.
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Speaker 2: Not only is Manique Teppi's ex husband, doctor Michael McKee,
31:31
Speaker 2: plotting a bond bid from behind bars. He was just
31:35
Speaker 2: in court and made a really bad showing of it.
31:38
Speaker 2: He looked like he wanted to just destroy everyone. If
31:42
Speaker 2: looks could kill, everybody in the courtroom would be dead.
31:45
Speaker 2: The jury's not gonna like that. Good luck softening him up.
31:49
Speaker 2: That happened, and it is happening. In just a couple
31:51
Speaker 2: of days. He's coming into court and we believe asking
31:54
Speaker 2: for bond to walk free. Don't do it, judge Number two,
31:57
Speaker 2: search wan't return Unsealednumber three. The Tepee home is up
32:04
Speaker 2: for sale. That's right, it's being listed by a local realtor.
32:09
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a good idea, do Scott morgun
32:12
Speaker 2: Just think about it. Remember the Idaho crime scene quadruple
32:16
Speaker 2: killing Brian Coburger, the case the house was torn down.
32:19
Speaker 2: What if a jury had wanted to look at that,
32:23
Speaker 2: had wanted to see it?
32:24
Speaker 8: What about that gone like a vapor, Nancy, never to
32:27
Speaker 8: be seen again. There's no point of reference that you
32:30
Speaker 8: can go back to, and I can't. This is what
32:33
Speaker 8: escapes my reasoning here. You've had this example nationwide that
32:39
Speaker 8: we saw that everybody was up in arms about. Do
32:42
Speaker 8: you remember that? I know you do, And now we've
32:45
Speaker 8: got again this is being played out right.
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Speaker 1: Why would you?
32:50
Speaker 8: Why would you tell?
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Speaker 6: What's the rush? What is the rush?
32:53
Speaker 8: The only thing I can think about is that there's
32:56
Speaker 8: some kind of monetary motivation. Understand that, but it's problem Nancy.
33:01
Speaker 2: And then, of course, in addition to Idaho, with the
33:05
Speaker 2: exact opposite response, we have Mozelle.
33:09
Speaker 3: What is Mozelle?
33:10
Speaker 2: It was the hunting lodge belonging to high profile lawyer
33:15
Speaker 2: Alex Murdog convicted in the murder of his wife Maggie
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Speaker 2: and son Paul.
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Speaker 3: That's the interior.
33:24
Speaker 2: Take a look, and that was not put on the
33:28
Speaker 2: market at the time, It was not destroyed. And the
33:30
Speaker 2: jury went to see the scene and they came back
33:34
Speaker 2: rightfully with a guilty verdict.
33:38
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the Alex Murdoch case.
33:40
Speaker 2: Then you've got dare I speak it, my old co anchor,
33:45
Speaker 2: Johnny Cochrane, who did a complete makeover of Double Killer
33:50
Speaker 2: Orenthal James Simpson's batchpad.
33:54
Speaker 3: He basically went in.
33:55
Speaker 2: There, took down all the Playboy Bunny photos and put
33:59
Speaker 2: up inspiring photos. You're seeing crime scene photos. Now, these
34:04
Speaker 2: photos were a sharp dichotomy to the home of OJ Simpson.
34:11
Speaker 2: The jury viewed after Johnny Cochran's home makeover. The jury
34:16
Speaker 2: found not guilty after seeing the completely redone interior of
34:22
Speaker 2: OJ Simpson's home. And then, of course you've got Joe Scott.
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Speaker 2: You and I are very closely connected to this case,
34:29
Speaker 2: the case of Ellen Greenberg, where the entire scene was
34:35
Speaker 2: actually cleaned up by a professional cleaner like Corey Chalmers,
34:40
Speaker 2: totally destroying the murder scene.
34:45
Speaker 3: Remember that, Joe Scott, Yeah, how could I ever forget?
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Speaker 8: We actually recreated that at Jacksonville State And the reality
34:53
Speaker 8: is this Nancy, it's again. I use the analogy. It's
34:56
Speaker 8: like a vapor, it's gone. You cannot go back and
35:00
Speaker 8: grasp that again. You know another case comes to mind,
35:04
Speaker 8: the Parkland shooting. They locked that thing down for years. Nancy,
35:07
Speaker 8: what's the rush? Why do you have to essentially go
35:12
Speaker 8: through wipe everything out? And I know what people are thinking, well,
35:15
Speaker 8: you should have documented it in the first place. You
35:18
Speaker 8: never know what's going to happen in court. I'd defer
35:21
Speaker 8: to you how many times have you had to take
35:23
Speaker 8: a jury out to a scene just to refresh their
35:26
Speaker 8: memory or give them context? And you're really really taking
35:30
Speaker 8: a risk with this, in my opinion.
35:31
Speaker 3: Nancy Agree.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Straight out to Corey Chalmers, joining us Tonight's special guest.
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Speaker 2: He is the CEO, founder of stera Clean and nation
35:54
Speaker 2: wide leader and crime scene clean up. He deals with
35:58
Speaker 2: Biohazard's Trauma Horror Being Extreme Services for over thirty years,
36:03
Speaker 2: and he is a star on A and E's Hoarders.
36:09
Speaker 2: He's at Crimecleaners dot Com. Corey, I want to hear
36:13
Speaker 2: why it's irreversible. There is no evidence left. Want somebody
36:20
Speaker 2: like you and your team is brought in to clean
36:24
Speaker 2: a murder scene, much less a double murder scene. And
36:27
Speaker 2: what I'm really interested in this case is the bedroom
36:33
Speaker 2: and what evidence is now destroyed because an expert cleaner
36:38
Speaker 2: like you has come in. Let's see the shot, says
36:41
Speaker 2: Corey explains what he does.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, I mean our job is to not only
36:48
Speaker 9: make the traces of the crime disappear, but to make
36:51
Speaker 9: the danger disappear.
36:53
Speaker 6: So to do that, we not.
36:54
Speaker 9: Only have to make the visible blood gun, but we
36:57
Speaker 9: also have to Disin fact, we use a bunch of chemicals.
37:00
Speaker 9: Even if there was something left, we would alter that,
37:03
Speaker 9: you know, with so much chemical that it probably wouldn't
37:06
Speaker 9: be admissible in court anyway.
37:07
Speaker 6: Plus chain a custody is ruined by the time.
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Speaker 3: Okay, what chemical?
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Speaker 9: So like, we use what we call an illuminator, which
37:12
Speaker 9: is a hydrogen peroxide based illuminator. What that does is
37:17
Speaker 9: it makes any dried blood on dark surfaces turned bright
37:21
Speaker 9: white so that we can see it. Anywhere that there's
37:23
Speaker 9: something saturated with blood, like a mattress, carpeting, we literally
37:28
Speaker 9: cut it out and remove it. So anything that's absorbed
37:30
Speaker 9: blood gets removed, placed into biohazard bins sent off to
37:35
Speaker 9: be either autoclaved and incinerated. Now here's something that's really
37:39
Speaker 9: interesting we don't see very often is what does the
37:42
Speaker 9: doctor have access to biohazard bins?
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Speaker 6: So even his own bloody clothing shoes.
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Speaker 9: You can't get out of a crime scene where you
37:49
Speaker 9: just shot some people sixteen times and not have blood
37:53
Speaker 9: on you. He has an easy way to get rid
37:55
Speaker 9: of the evidence. It goes into a biohazard bin in
37:57
Speaker 9: his office, gets collected, and it goes and gets incinerated
37:59
Speaker 9: or autocla never to be seen again.
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Speaker 6: So even his own evidence is destroyed at this point.
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Speaker 2: So let me understand Corey Chalmers. First of all, you
38:09
Speaker 2: have to suit up. I guess you put on rubber
38:12
Speaker 2: boots like has Matt get completely uncovered. You go in,
38:20
Speaker 2: you typically bring a team of cleaners with you. And
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Speaker 2: what's the first thing you do when you walk in.
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Speaker 9: We need to assess the situation and just see exactly
38:28
Speaker 9: where the blood is and what's involved. Once we know that,
38:32
Speaker 9: then we go to our vans, get all the supplies
38:34
Speaker 9: we need, set up a containment zone right outside the
38:37
Speaker 9: affected area, and we just start working our way in
38:40
Speaker 9: removing everything that we see that we can remove. That's
38:44
Speaker 9: porous or if it's hard, nonporous, we start cleaning it,
38:47
Speaker 9: disinfecting it, and when we're done, we'll even use like
38:50
Speaker 9: atp adnizine triphosphate monitors to make sure that there's no
38:55
Speaker 9: sort of organic materials on that surface so we've cleaned it.
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Speaker 6: We even have other chemicals that extract blood out of stuff.
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Speaker 9: If let's say a client says, I don't want you
39:04
Speaker 9: to remove the subfloor of the plywood, we can actually
39:07
Speaker 9: use this chemical and it will suck it out like
39:09
Speaker 9: a sponge. Probably not one hundred percent, but most of
39:12
Speaker 9: the evidence is going to be absolutely gone. And I think,
39:15
Speaker 9: like we talked about earlier, walking into a scene like that,
39:18
Speaker 9: especially one that's so brutal, so graphic, for a jury
39:22
Speaker 9: to be able to go in and see something like
39:24
Speaker 9: that versus after we've ripped it all out and it's
39:26
Speaker 9: been rebuilt. There's no purpose to that. It won't serve
39:30
Speaker 9: any purpose in a trial, But seeing the scene and
39:32
Speaker 9: piecing it all together the way that we see it
39:35
Speaker 9: as a paramedic and a firefighter for twenty one years too,
39:38
Speaker 9: so we would go into those same scenes and it's horrific,
39:41
Speaker 9: and so it absolutely helps the defense to get rid
39:44
Speaker 9: of every bit of evidence like that.
39:46
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the floors and the bedrooms are done
39:50
Speaker 2: in shades of black, white, neutral gray carpet. Do you
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Speaker 2: rip up the carpet or just clean the carpet?
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Speaker 9: Absolutely, we remove it because that blood most likely goes
40:01
Speaker 9: through the carpet into the padding, into the subfloor. So
40:03
Speaker 9: we remove layer after layer after layer until it's completely
40:07
Speaker 9: dry and nothing is visible.
40:08
Speaker 3: Well, Joe Scott, there you go.
40:11
Speaker 2: They take the carpet and they incinerate it.
40:14
Speaker 3: It's not like they.
40:15
Speaker 2: Rip up the carpet and the crime lab comes and goes, hey,
40:17
Speaker 2: I'll take that.
40:19
Speaker 3: They incinerated. All that evidence gone.
40:23
Speaker 2: And if you look at at the photos that we've
40:27
Speaker 2: looked at on the realtor site, these are on Zillow
40:31
Speaker 2: and on the local realtor site, you can see even
40:34
Speaker 2: the betting. I'm sure the betting was incinerated as well.
40:39
Speaker 3: I mean, oh, all that.
40:41
Speaker 1: Evidence gone, Nancy.
40:44
Speaker 8: In many cases, we take the mattress, we take all
40:46
Speaker 8: the bedclothing, comforter sheets, pillows. My concern here is did
40:51
Speaker 8: they get everything because someone else is now living in
40:54
Speaker 8: the dwelling or in cases like out in Idaho where
40:57
Speaker 8: the place is completely gone.
40:59
Speaker 6: That's problem.
41:00
Speaker 3: At least in Idaho, they did take the mattresses.
41:02
Speaker 6: You know.
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Speaker 2: Another thing I'm looking at, Corey Chalmers is joining us.
41:06
Speaker 2: You can see his program on A and E and
41:09
Speaker 2: he is founder of STERI Clean Nation. Why crime scene cleaner?
41:14
Speaker 2: For instance, I bet you anything that he went into
41:19
Speaker 2: the bathroom of the master bedroom.
41:22
Speaker 3: Hold on, I need to shrink. You know, he did
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Speaker 3: write Bethany.
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Speaker 2: You know, after he shot them, he looked around in
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Speaker 2: the home, including the bathroom that adjoins that master bedroom.
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Speaker 3: All that evidence has gone.
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Speaker 2: What in the hey would he be doing in there?
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Speaker 4: You know, Nancy, these crime scenes, each cleanup tells a story.
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Speaker 4: I once treated a patient who was did crime scene
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Speaker 4: clean up, and he actually cleaned Jeffrey Dahmer's place, and
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Speaker 4: he said that the mattress was so blood soaked that
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Speaker 4: the blood formed steleg tights under the bed and other words,
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Speaker 4: it was dripping through the mattress and then hardened into
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Speaker 4: like icicle type formations. This patient was so traumatized by
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Speaker 4: doing this crime scene cleanup that he became drug addicted.
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Speaker 4: So I would think there's a kind of trauma at
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Speaker 4: looking at these scenes, and the story this one might
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Speaker 4: tell is the surgeon coming in, looking through her drawers,
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Speaker 4: seeing what kind of lingeride she wears, seeing what kind
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Speaker 4: of perfume she used, you know, walking through the house
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Speaker 4: and kind of imagining the life she lived, and reveling
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Speaker 4: in the fact that he has now destroyed it completely,
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Speaker 4: dismantled it, taken it apart, taken it down to the studs,
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Speaker 4: nothing left.
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Speaker 3: You know, Corey Chalmers.
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Speaker 2: I was as doctor Bethny was talking, I was just
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Speaker 2: browsing through all the fifty six photos of the home,
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Speaker 2: and something you said really struck a chord. I was
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Speaker 2: looking at the stairway coming down from the upstairs bedroom
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Speaker 2: to the downstairs, and you can see the downstairs in
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Speaker 2: their wedding video because they got married there at this home.
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Speaker 2: They were married and murdered in the same home, Corey.
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Speaker 2: But when I was looking at those stairs, I was
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Speaker 2: imagining the two little girls running downstairs on Christmas morning,
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Speaker 2: or coming downstairs for breakfast before they went to school
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Speaker 2: or play school, and all the happy memories in this
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Speaker 2: home and now it's just a crime scene.
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Speaker 3: Does that ever get to you? It does to me.
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Speaker 6: I mean, I try not to it's just it's it's
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Speaker 6: my job.
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Speaker 9: And again, being a firefighter and a paramedic and pronouncing
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Speaker 9: people deceased over decades, you kind of get used to that.
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Speaker 9: But of course everyone says kids bother you, but the
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Speaker 9: family bothers me when you have, you know, all these
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Speaker 9: parents are gone. Now they're you know, either deceased and
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Speaker 9: the ex is going to be in jail. This family
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Speaker 9: is broken and they will be forever. And maybe these
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Speaker 9: kids were young enough to not have, you know, a
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Speaker 9: huge man memory of their parents, but it's a void
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Speaker 9: and now someone else is going to be raising them differently.
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Speaker 9: They'll never have the same upbringing they would have with
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Speaker 9: their own parents.
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Speaker 2: If you know or think you know anything about the
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Speaker 2: brutal murders of Monique and Spencer Tepee, please dial six
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Speaker 2: one four six four five two two two eight. It
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Speaker 2: could be before, during, or after the fact six one
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Speaker 2: four six four five two two two eight if you
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Speaker 2: wish to remain anonymous. Six one four four six one
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Speaker 2: eight four seven seven. Nancy Gray signing off, goodbye, Smath