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Trent's Back, Twins trades, Weekend Recap, Eliot Clough talks Hawkeyes & the Voice of the Chiefs Mitch Holthus · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Hey, the Iowa Sports Radio Network, Trent Condon, Ken
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Miller with you for the next couple of hours talking sports
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with you. He is back.
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Well played. Good to see you, brother.
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You do too. Here's what's coming up on the
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program. We will start our first guest of
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the of the day. We'll be about 12/25, 12:30-ish.
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Elliot Clough from hawkeyeinsider.com.
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He will join us 24/7 sports for Elliot.
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He's going to be our Hawkeye guy.
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I haven't asked him yet. Maybe he should have done that,
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but hopefully that'll all work out that he will join us on
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Mondays. We're gonna talk to Scott
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Dockerman on a different day of the week.
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And as I said last week, when when Doc joined me or prior to,
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we've heard the complaints, we've heard the noise that that
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Doc has branched out. He's more than I with football.
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You have a cyclone, a cyclone guy I've run every Monday.
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Why don't we get the same kind of treatment?
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I mean, it's fair. It's fair.
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So we'll we'll still talk to Doc.
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We'll just do it on a different day as he's more than I will.
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Now. The athletic has broadened his
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writing horizons and he covers college football.
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So Elliot Kleff will join us today on the Hawks, their media
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day coming up on Friday, Kids day on Saturday.
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But practice is underway and we'll pick Elliot's brain coming
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up here at the well, 20 minutes or so from right now.
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Then Mitch Holt is back with another training camp reports
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week #2 of that he had the it's at the big guns came out blazing
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last week with Mahomes and Kelsey and Jones and Reed Today,
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a guy that I think is ascending up that ladder.
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George Karlaftus, who signed a new deal recently, has made an
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impact since he left the Purdue and has done a terrific job on
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that line. And he will join Trent and I
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about 12:45, not George Mitch, to talk about the Kansas City
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Chiefs as they enter another week of training camp.
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They play, let's say on Friday night, our number 2, Matt
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Snyder, CBSSports.com. Trent and I will talk baseball
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and lots of baseball to get to with him as the red hot Red Sox,
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Mayo Meyer. Are they ever on fire since
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they've moved Evers out to San Francisco?
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Don't know if that was the cause or not, but certainly lines up.
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We'll talk baseball well with Snyder.
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I look forward to that to kick off our number 2.
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And then Bill Seals, who presently is listening to Matt
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Campbell and the sordid players. Iowa State media day, football
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media day availability today, right now.
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So we'll get the latest on that with Bill Seals about 1:30.
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Trump, make some picks before we get out of here at 2:00 and turn
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things over to Lucas Strain, who will fly solo for three hours
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today from 2:00 until 5:00 as he comes off the bench.
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Sean, by the way, will be back in studio and back to work on
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Friday of this week. So paternity leave for Sean will
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end and he'll be back with Lucas on Friday.
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How are you? Good.
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Speaking of back, good to see you.
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Back, yeah, happy to be back. Excited to be here once again.
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Had the microphone in front of me and oh boy, plenty to get
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into. You know, recharge the batteries
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one final time and it is all systems go.
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Now as we flip the calendar over, you mentioned Friday, Iowa
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media day, then Saturday is the open practice.
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So going to get our really only glimpse at the team on the field
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before we see them in Week 1, so.
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Monday, the Big 10 crew is. There, yes, we'll get that
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glimpse and Jerry Gennaro say they'll look like an Iowa
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football team and they're as well schooled as anybody.
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And we'll hear the same things we've heard the last 15 years.
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And we'll eat it up and we'll overreact.
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And Kirk will say one thing and we'll overreact to that.
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And away we go. Will we hear from Gronowski
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there? Oh yeah, I think so too.
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Yeah. No, it's it's time, right?
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He's the quarterback. Yes, Kirk and Vegas said there
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was no well, it's gonna be a continent.
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There was none of that. This is not a competition.
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This is Mark Gronowski. 'S team and for that reason
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alone it should be time that he's in front of everybody.
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Yes, he will be. I would be shocked if they're
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not going to hide him anyways. Baseball races continue your
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team. Since you've been gone, I'm
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guessing you realize what happened where on before I opine
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on what on what I thought what was your I mean as it's all
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happening is one guy after another is is is leaving the
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roster. What?
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What are your thoughts? The the beginning of it was not
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that big of a deal. I knew there was going to be
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trades. I knew this was going to happen.
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I had resigned to the fact that yes, they were going to be
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moving guys and most of them were the guys coming up to the
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end of their contract. There might have been a guy and
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as we saw one of the first moves that they made and that had team
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control, but. We're talking about the twins
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by. The way, yes, but to decimate
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the strength of your team and your bullpen, and it was really
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the final two guys that pushed it over the edge.
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Jax was last. Who was next to last?
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Was it Correa? Was it Bader?
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Was it? No of those of the bullpen.
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Oh, the bullpen. Yes.
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Yeah, yeah. It was Jax right at the end and
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they didn't have to, and Louis Varlin.
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That's when I, I mean, I'm grateful as a Blue Jays fan,
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Louis. Varlin is a Minnesota kid.
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Louis Varlin has family there. Louis Varlin is under team
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control through 2030. I get it.
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And you get a bag of balls. Yeah, I didn't understand it.
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Outside of the move with the Phillies, that was for Duran.
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And a catcher. He got a catcher and a pitcher.
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A starting pitcher, yeah, that's close and his pitch a little bit
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for the Phillies. Out of that deal, though, almost
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everything that I read and I read a ton about it was they got
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fleeced in every one of these moves.
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Yeah. You wonder if Alvey.
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Is it just pressure from ownership?
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Sell, sell, sell. I mean that has to be a.
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Part of it, I think it does. But if you're him, when you're
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looking about the future of whoever the new ownership group
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is or you in baseball, they became the laughingstock they.
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Did he? Became a laughingstock of what
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he had to do. The Korea trade was a strict
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salary dump. Brock Stewart, they got a guy
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that doesn't play for him, an outman.
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Brock Stewart is a fine bullpen arm.
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He's probably going to be a six 7th inning guy for the Dodgers
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and he's going to help them out. But when the beginning of the
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deal, when it first comes out, it is stated outman and other
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considerations and that there are no other considerations.
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This is the ineptitude or the forced hand that they were
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dealt. It's an absolute disaster.
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I think that does it make the does it make the sale easier now
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that this roster has been gutted like this and.
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In theory, that's that's one that I've heard that theory.
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And I've heard that, you know, the other thing that then, and
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this is my theory, about a month ago, they came back and gave
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Baldelli a vote of confidence. They don't want to be the ones
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that that that have to fire him. They don't want to pay.
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So if if the new ownership comes in, they'll be the ones that
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that have to eat that cash. So they waved the white flag in
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a big way. I guess at this point, you just
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hope a couple of those prospects hit Taj Walker from Tampa Bay.
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Taj Bradley. Taj Bradley.
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I beg your pardon? Yep.
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From Tampa Bay. He's got.
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Upside. He does.
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He's 24. Yep, Palm hates the trade.
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My Palm is. That's the one that got him the
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most. My God, he was.
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He was hot about that one. Well, we'll see where it goes,
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but but they weren't going to the playoffs this year and that
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was pretty apparent. And they did cut some salary.
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But you can't sell now that you're going to be a playoff
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team next year. No, no way.
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How do you? How are you going to sell?
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How's it like to work for? The Twins in a season ticket
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office. You got Timberwolves ascending,
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the Vikings are always a thing, the Lynx are a thing up there
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you have. Going to win the championship,
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they have a lot. Happening up there and now by
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the way though. I just said the Lynx are going
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to win the championship. Did you what they see what they
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did to call you this week? Play when they're up 60 what are
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what are they doing I. Have no idea and this is the
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best women's basketball coaching the history of the sport.
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Maybe self-proclaimed? Maybe my God.
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It's good of a basketball. Is the worst person she out?
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Yeah. Is she out for a length of time?
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I never saw any timetable when it when that went down and I was
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seeing through it last night I didn't see a timetable.
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There are a ton of people that are just taking that free square
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and adding to their bar lace. Oh absolutely.
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And a little a little nervous at this.
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Point. Maybe one that resides in
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Ankeny? Yeah.
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Well, yeah, the device of one that, Yeah.
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Anyways, yeah, I'm sorry. Yes, but you're right, all the
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other Minneapolis team, Minnesota teams are on their way
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up. The Wild or hockey?
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I mean, you have all this that you're competing for the
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entertainment dollar, right? Unless Capri soft leaves.
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They're going to be terrible. The twins are next.
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Year, they're terrible. They have missed the playoffs,
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now 4 out of five years, 4 out of five, including twice with
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major leagues that they've faltered down the stretch.
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And don't look now. The White Sox are getting better
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you they reside in the baseball. Absolutely.
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This is what each the division, this is how all these teams are
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built. You have to build it up and then
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tear it back down. They're all small to mid market
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teams and that's why it's a compelling division.
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Not a good division, but a compelling division is.
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Because you have that, You have teams of similar ilk.
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Detroit probably has the most ability to spend.
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Well, they have SCOOBLE, They have SCOOBLE, but no, the
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ability to spend in when they get to those levels.
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Cleveland can't do that. Minnesota wouldn't do that under
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the pole, lads. The White Sox wouldn't even
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really do that. You had different organizations.
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We saw Kansas City's gone out and spent when the windows were
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available. But the Twins now have put
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themselves in a spot where they have to.
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It is a rebuild and a rebuild where you kind of looked at this
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window and two years ago beating the Blue Jays first playoff
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series win in 20 years saying in windows here, yeah, it closed
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that quickly. And then the offseason hit.
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And you got the answer. We're not going to spend.
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And here we are two years later. That was 22 months.
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Ago it wasn't that long you're 1000% right.
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Well, we're starting to see a lot of pre season polls come
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out, including the coaches poll when it comes to college
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football. Iowa State made it.
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They're 22. Iowa on the outside looking in
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on that one. On the coaches poll.
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I saw Mcmurphy's poll is out. Neither one of them made it
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there. But the coaches poll is the one
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that I guess if there is one that kind of has more cachet, it
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would be that one. Did anything or did you just?
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Yeah, it's a poll. Kind of.
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The Penn State one just continues.
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They're really talented. They have a lot of talent, but
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can they win a national championship?
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And it's a conversation that we've had a lot in this new
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structure of college football of how many teams I can make a
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playoff, how many teams can even win a game, how many teams can
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win a national championship? And at minimum, that means
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winning three consecutive games. Now you can get a path like Penn
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State did last year, and that helps out.
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But there's still two more to go and they're right there on the
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precipice. And maybe against Ohio State it
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is different because it's a rematch game and we saw on the
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first game of the playoff for the Oregon, Ohio State what a
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rematch game can be when you go the other direction.
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I come back to Franklin. I just come back to this team
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and I wonder them in January against an Alabama, them in
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January against the Clemson, them in January against.
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Texas, a Texas, but one of those coaches is going to have to win
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that game if it's Texas, right? I just, I keep coming back to
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that part of it, though, and I, I find it difficult to wrap my
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mind around Penn State winning that game.
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It's probably unfair, but I can't get, and it's not just the
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one in 15 against, Look, most everybody has terrible records
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against tough IT, it's, it goes with the territory.
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That's the reason they're good. It's how we think of James
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Franklin. It's James Franklin.
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Right or wrong, it's how we think of them and.
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That's what I keep coming back to.
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I just. We go back to Vegas and I again,
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I keep coming back to this line, but it resonated with me.
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If you put the Penn State guys in Ohio State jerseys, you're
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going to What are you going to do?
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You're going to think these guys are home free.
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That loaders the the rosters loaded for Penn State loaded.
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It's the head coach's office that makes you wonder.
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I mean, they went out and got that kid from Troy last year
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that burned Iowa deep twice. It did.
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He's going to be their number 3 or 4 receiver.
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And he's moving up. He's moving.
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Up. He's moving up.
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On the depth chart. But that shows you also what
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they also did in the portal, because they were pretty
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pedestrian. Sure.
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A 1-2 punch, a running back as good as anybody in the country,
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an offensive line that's absolutely loaded and that
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defense, it's going to be good. At minimum, they returned 6
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starters in today's day and age, returning 6 starters.
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They did what Penn State did a year ago.
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They paid to get guys, but also to keep guys.
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Guys that could have gone and bet a fourth, fifth round
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selection. What hours making?
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Oh, it's a good question. I mean millions.
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Yeah, millions. Millions.
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I would think so. Probably.
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So it's a going rate. Yeah, it's a going rate for a
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quarterback of that ilk. So when just seeing them up
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there, what were they 3? And the coach just pulling down
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with Texas, Ohio State, Penn State.
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And I that just comes back to that continually for me.
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I think I can make an argument for 10 teams to win a national
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championship, something that is a rarity.
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Can you make a case for a Big 12 team to make win a national
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championship? How many ACC teams can you make
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that case for? Just one.
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Miami not there, no. I'm with you.
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No, I I can't get to that. I'm with you.
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They wanted a different one. He's getting his mail in Iowa
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City. Yep, Yep, are.
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You a Carson Beck? No, I'm not.
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Yeah, Georgia and lost games of Georgia, which is tough to do
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because it doesn't happen very often.
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I don't know if I can find 10 teams that can win a national
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championship this year. Alabama.
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I think yes. Yes, they can.
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Yes, Ohio State, Texas. Alabama.
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You got to put Penn State on the list.
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You have to that's. Where I their.
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Roster, all right, if you don't want to, you know, I would.
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Notre Dame. Yes, I'm finally there.
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LSU. Yes.
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Does the LSU Clemson game matter?
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Oh well, no, no, because they're both very well are going to be.
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There, they'll rebound, Yeah, I think, I think ACC will go to
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Clemson, although I do think Miami's going to be better.
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Yeah, another step that they can definitely have.
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We'll see what Beck is after that.
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Michigan, I don't think win a national champion.
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They have a path to get to the playoff, though.
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Yeah, for sure. And by the time we get late in
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the season, maybe Bryce Underwood is.
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Well, he's going to get every opportunity, absolutely.
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He's going to get every opportunity to do that.
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So man, I don't know. We shall.
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See how many SEC teams though Georgia I got got.
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I have to put you just because it down.
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Yeah, Texas won Georgia, Alabama.
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I don't know if I can go LSU 3 Big 10, Ohio State, Penn State,
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Oregon, Oregon. I'm not a Dante Moore guy.
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Need to see more. From more you know.
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But a lot of other position. They cost a ton too.
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How about this one? I know you're gonna say no right
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off the bat, All right? Illinois win a national
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championship? I don't think so.
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I think they can get there. Get to even a Final Four, I
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think is a stretch. They get to a playoff, sure. 10
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and two, yeah, with that schedule, they can definitely do
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that. Like Illinois's not winning a.
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National, it'll be time with you.
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And no, no Group of five, right? No.
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No, no, when it was a fourteen playoff.
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Yeah, this is maybe 6 or 7 probably.
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Six or seven, Yeah. And I guess you do have to throw
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Penn State. In there you have to no, you
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have. To Maybe it's just James
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Franklin. It is just James Franklin, but
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it has to be. He bothers me.
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The media bothers me, the fan base bothers me.
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Yeah, there's a lot of bothersome things about that
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organization. But then stay away from the from
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the recap of the Nebraska Open of open practice for the other
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day. Yeah, they are loaded.
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Oh, here we go. Let me pull it.
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Let me. Let's look at the calendar.
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Oh, it's August. Uh huh.
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Nebraska's going to be. Good.
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They're going to be really good. According to their media.
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I could find even the third stringers got a little
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something. Let's get Mike and Waterloo in
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here. He's been patient.
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Hello, Mike. Hey, you guys.
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What's happening? Welcome back, Trent.
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Thank you. You know what, I really I think
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the White Sox could be in that. Speaking of baseball, yes, go
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ahead you. Know what about that rookie
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that's got eight home runs already?
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I mean, is he the second coming of Corey Seeger?
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And we got the shortstop, We got 2 good catchers one game.
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I think 3 or 4 rookies hit three run homers and I tell you, I was
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glad they signed Robert. They said 20 million bucks, 20
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million bucks ain't nothing in baseball.
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Ever since the All Star game he's been playing.
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You know, I said he he feels like Willie Mays and hits like
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Ozzy Gian. But now he start.
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I think he cut down his swing. When he gets on base, it's a
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double because I don't think there's a faster player in
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baseball, I tell. You Is he the fastest player in
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Chicago? What's that?
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Is he the fastest player in Chicago?
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I put him against Miko. Is that his name?
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PCA. PCA, yeah, because.
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What center fielder would you rather have, Pitrow, Armstrong
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or Luis Roberts? Well, I take Robert right now
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because that 20 million bucks is looking he's.
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No, I like I like him. I like him, Mike.
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I like PCA better. But I do like your guy.
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I really do. Ben attendees hitting the ball a
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little bit. Talkman.
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Ben attendees hitting the ball. Talkman.
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I I Somebody should have picked up Talkman.
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The Cubs could have picked up Talkman.
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Well, I tell you, they're exciting.
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Teams. Your team's on the rise,
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brother, your team is on the rise.
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I agree. I.
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Was well, Trent, I think you're what hey, you know, the
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Minnesota Vikings quarterback. I've I've heard bad reports on
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him. I've heard conflicting reports.
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Oh yeah. Kind of covering up these
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reports over there. Yeah.
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Thank you, Mike. Thanks for the call, Mike.
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Yeah, you have a good week. Yeah, the JJ Democrats, it's for
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every good one, there's two bad ones.
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Well, and it's the same thing happened with Caleb Williams.
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And it's funny like the Twitter algorithm because I don't know
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of the accounts our our show account, KXNO account, my
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account locked on Hawkeye's account.
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So I got 4 different ones on here and some of them are set up
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for the for you. And so I click on that, and I
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must have clicked on, but the only bears things I see in one
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of the accounts as the positive ones.
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And the other one that I'll click on is only the -1 So
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depending on what my mood is for the day, let's see, do I want to
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get excited about the bears or do I want to get pissed off?
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And it just depends on which one of those accounts that I click
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on. And the way the algorithm is set
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up, because JJ McCarthy and when you hear about looks timid, very
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tepid, doesn't have command. Those are the kind of things
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that can you fix in a month is or are you already at the spot
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where you're saying, did we make a mistake?
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Is there a veteran that we like? How deep down into this do we
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need to go without even seeing a game yet?
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As far as what before you make a change?
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Well, then that make a change, but but before you're, you're
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putting contingency plans together.
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Let's put. That I'm all in on them.
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I know you are, so I'm not going to backpedal, but Sam Howells
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look really good. Oh, no.
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Yeah. That's where we are at Sam
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Howells season. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's
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wild. Twitter's wild at this time of
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year. It really is.
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But we'll see. I mean, McCarthy, apparently one
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has one good practice, 1 bad practice.
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That's kind of the way I've been.
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We'll get Dame Mazzatani one day this week.
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He's been to practice every day this week and we'll we'll find
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an opportunity. I think the the Vikings were off
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last Thursday of memory serves. So maybe that's that's going to
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be their schedule going forward. But we'll definitely get Dame
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Mazzatani this week to give us an update.
19:35
I got to think that right now it's probably if you were going
19:38
to grade them based on what I see on Twitter.
19:41
It's. Probably AB minus.
19:44
You're a fair grader. Yeah.
19:45
And I don't think that's, I don't think that's good enough.
19:48
I mean, maybe AC minus, so depends on which one of those
19:51
algorithms we're clicking on. Let's get to Devin.
19:53
Devin, what's on your mind? I can't believe you haven't
19:57
talked about this yet. Carrie Underwood's coming back.
19:59
See, I'm a I'm a Faith Hill guy. You'll go way back.
20:03
I like Faith Hill better than now.
20:04
Carrie Underwood's fine. She married a hockey player.
20:07
She just moves up in my book. But I'm I liked Faith Hill.
20:11
Do you remember the Faith? Hill, Lara, Devin.
20:14
How? Long ago.
20:15
Was that because that might be before my time a little?
20:17
Probably, yeah. 20. 12, yeah, probably, probably 10 years.
20:23
I might have remembered it, maybe I remember early Carrie
20:26
Underwood, but I I'm very excited that she's coming back.
20:29
I think she should be back and tell us you Can't Sing anymore.
20:31
Me personally, it just fires me up.
20:34
Who's your team? Who's your team?
20:37
Unfortunately, the Dallas Cowboys, yeah, it's it's a mess.
20:41
I do think Micah is going to get signed, though.
20:43
I'm not going to squeal. I hate Jerry Jones with a
20:45
passion, but it's going to be like Miles Garrett last year.
20:48
It'll get money. Talks money talks.
20:51
It's like Dak wasn't signed until the night before week one
20:53
last year. It'll get done.
20:55
Micah will be a cowboy. Devin, thanks for the call.
20:57
I appreciate you listening. Yep, you bet.
20:59
Take care. Good.
20:59
To hear from you, Who's this? Faith Hill. 2012, 2012,
21:36
See. You like faith, huh?
21:38
I think there's another version. Oh, yeah.
21:40
Remember, this is like a remix version.
21:42
Yeah. They had the the jokers from the
21:43
voice that popped in there. That was the three that we're
21:45
talking. Oh, is that?
21:46
Yeah, no, I'm, I'm a Faith Hill guy and I think I like it both.
21:49
But just, you know, what does once they get off the off my
21:52
television, big ball is in the air, We're underway football.
21:54
And I'm all for that. By the way, you know what's
21:56
coming up this week? We check another box tomorrow
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night. 9:00 HBO. Hard.
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Knocks episode 1, the Buffalo Bills, take your time out, come
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back. We will talk Hawks with Elliott
22:08
Clough from 24/7 Sports. I look forward to talking to
22:13
Elliott. We'll do that hopefully weekly
22:16
with Elliott. We'll talk Hawks with somebody.
22:17
Hopefully Elliott's the guy. Bill Seals on Iowa State, Matt
22:20
Campbell's meeting, the media coming up here.
22:23
We'll get to Bill Seals at 1:30. Mitch Holtis this hour is what
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Ellen Miller and Condon underway on a Monday.
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It's the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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Hi Mallory Con and welcome back Iowa Sports Radio Network 1230
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possible. Elliott Clough covers the
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Hawkeyes for 24/7 Sports hawkeyeinsider.com Elliott joins
23:07
us. Both of you guys.
23:08
I'll ask this question because Bruce Feldman, I know it's not a
23:11
24/7 thing, but he comes up with his freaks list every year.
23:15
Are you aware of this? First of all, Elliot, Bruce
23:17
Feldman's freaks list at the Athletic.
23:20
I am. OK so today he came out and
23:23
there are actually 3 Hawkeyes that made the that made the all
23:26
freaks list this year, Logan Jones, K Piper and Preston
23:32
Reese. I'm thinking to myself, OK, you
23:34
got this wrong. There's no Hawkeye by the name
23:37
of Preston Reese. But there is, and he's already a
23:40
freaking he's never played it down in college football.
23:43
Is that what I'm led to believe? Absolutely.
23:45
He's breaking records over there weightlifting so.
23:48
I want to ask you, Elliot, because you were covering
23:50
recruiting at the time, one of your duties.
23:53
Tell me about this kid. What is he?
23:56
What has he done? And he's got Bruce Feldman's eye
23:58
and he's got, there's some players on this list.
24:01
And Preston Reese, without even seeing the field, has come in at
24:04
#50 on the list. What do you know about him?
24:08
Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure I've talked about him on this show,
24:10
Ken. OK, my bad.
24:13
Well, Preston kid from Monticello, part of that 2024
24:17
class with with Cam Buffington and Derek Weiskopf.
24:21
All three of those guys probably could have found a spot on that
24:24
list. Weiskopf was a state champion in
24:28
two times, state champion in high jump, obviously state
24:30
champion in football. Also placed in shot and disc his
24:34
senior year at a state track meet.
24:37
Cam Buffington, kid from 8 man football played some some really
24:42
good football. I mean, he'd be out there with
24:43
kids that it looked like they're 12 standing next to him and he's
24:46
going to play at Big 10 football.
24:48
But but with Preston, he's just set the, the linebacker squat
24:52
record at Iowa, not the freshman squat record, the linebacker
24:56
squat record. So he's up there above Jack
24:59
Campbell, Jay Higgins, Josie Jewell, Kristen, like like name.
25:05
So so he's done some, some freaky stuff already.
25:07
He's another other kid that is right there with wise cop and
25:10
and Boston as far as high school accomplishment, but he's one of
25:14
those kids that was well, he was also a Max preps.
25:18
He was the Max preps Iowa football player of the year his
25:20
senior year too. And that's in the mix with Cam
25:23
and, and, and wise cop, of course, but he's, he's a guy
25:27
that, from what I've heard from behind the scenes that he
25:30
doesn't necessarily know a ton about what's going on right now
25:34
with the, with the Iowa defense, because he's so young, right?
25:37
It takes a little while to figure out.
25:39
And that's par for the course. But he's a guy that you put on
25:41
the field and good things happen, right?
25:43
Like he, he just finds a way to make a play where you're like,
25:46
holy crap, how did, how did Preston do that?
25:49
So he's a guy that that I had my eye on in that linebacker group
25:53
of of young guys that could possibly see the field this
25:56
year. With how many question marks are
25:58
around that group, it would not surprise me if he, you know,
26:01
carbs out a role either. Maybe it's a Leo spot.
26:03
He's definitely going to be playing on special teams.
26:06
I can tell you that for sure. But again, a local kid that's
26:10
been committed to play for the Hawks for a while, played
26:11
quarterback in high school too, dominated on both sides of the
26:16
ball. He's he's a name to watch.
26:18
Maybe, you know, and and maybe it doesn't all come to fruition
26:20
this year, but in the coming years, like he he's he's going
26:24
to be a part of that Iowa defense that people are going.
26:27
To know of those three that you mentioned, of course Preston
26:29
Reese is getting the headlines today, but Cam Buffington and
26:33
Weiskopf, of those 3, is there one that they are targeting of
26:36
the middle linebacker of the future?
26:38
We know they're all kind of in the mix in a backup role because
26:40
of the veterans. But if we look maybe 2 years
26:42
down the line or even a year down the line, of those 3, is
26:45
there one that they think is is going to be able to fill that
26:47
role at the middle spot? Yeah, that'd be Cam.
26:51
Cam, is that that classic thumper that you look for at
26:55
that Mike Spot? Did a little bit of everything
26:57
for for Mount Mount Union out of high school.
27:01
Played running back too, just a little bit.
27:03
You know, thicker is usually what they shoot for for that guy
27:06
who plays that mic spot and can be the quarterback of the
27:09
defense. But yeah, cam's that classic
27:12
thumper that that'll hit you and you stop moving and and that's
27:16
that's kind of what they shoot for for that mic spot.
27:19
I want to ask you about Price Hawthorne.
27:20
He's a guy that keeps coming up in conversations or in articles
27:24
that I read. He's going to play on a on a
27:26
position that look, I I read some accounts.
27:29
I read one that I was got the best, 8th best defensive front
27:33
in college football. I think I read that over the
27:35
weekend. Hawthorne, what did we expect
27:38
from him is South Dakota State transfer.
27:42
Yeah, Red shirt sophomore coming over from from Brookings, along
27:45
with Mark Gronowski. He I've heard a lot of good
27:49
things about Bryce so far. Obviously, we're going to learn
27:53
more. We're going to get to know more
27:54
over specifically this week and then for kids Day, of course.
27:58
But the Bryce is a kid that I've heard a little bit about him
28:01
being kind of a freak, whether it's in the weight room or on
28:04
the field. One of those guys who's super
28:06
twitchy despite his size, standing at, you know, 300 plus
28:10
pounds, he's a guy that a fire off the ball might not start
28:14
just for the sake of Jonah Pace being a guy who's a little bit
28:16
older. Been there, done that on a
28:18
defensive line. But Bryce is definitely going to
28:21
be a really, a really solid part of that rotation on the
28:26
defensive line and, and a reason why the defensive line looks to
28:30
have reloaded as opposed to, you know, scrapping for for parts to
28:35
fill that back end, especially at the defensive tackle.
28:37
But yeah, I'm, I'm really high on Bryce.
28:40
A lot of things that I've heard from behind the scenes are are
28:42
that he's definitely going to be impactful this fall.
28:45
Over to the cornerback spot. We know TJ Hall after the
28:48
spring, he had felt like he really wrapped up one of the
28:50
spots over there, even as inconsistent as he's been
28:53
throughout his career. You go out to South Dakota and
28:55
bring in Burrows. It got to Sean Lee, who started
28:58
what, 1215 games in his career yet?
29:00
Jalen Watson, Anytime I talk to somebody, and I think it's the
29:04
same thing for you Elliot, his name continues to come up.
29:08
Phil doesn't care about playing young guys.
29:09
He's played young guys a whole lot.
29:11
Could we see red shirt freshman Jalen Watson be a starter
29:14
sometime in the month of September?
29:19
Not going to rule it out. I'm definitely not going to rule
29:22
it out. I've been high on Jalen since
29:24
since he he picked Iowa couple years ago.
29:27
But I would probably venture to guess that Deshaun Lee is going
29:31
to be the guy who gets to start to start the season.
29:34
Whether that continues throughout September.
29:37
Putting a timeline on it makes it hard.
29:40
Like Jalen would not shock me at all if he starts this season at
29:45
any given point, but by September, that's a good
29:48
question. I, I think Deshaun Lee will have
29:51
had to struggle specifically against like Iowa State for that
29:54
to happen. Or I mean, if Shaheed Barrows
29:57
is, you know, is among the better corners on the team
30:00
through fall camp, maybe he locked down that position too.
30:03
I, I definitely will not count out Jalen Watson as to being a
30:08
starter in September. That's a really good question.
30:11
Maybe by the back end of the of September, like I said, I'm, I'm
30:15
really high on him. He's he's a guy that, you know,
30:18
Trent, you and I were both there when when Kirk mentioned in a
30:20
Big 10 media day. And it's like, oh, that's that's
30:24
one to take note of because Kirk won't go on a big long rant
30:28
about a player. But if it's the guy who's up and
30:30
coming and he makes a note of it, like, OK, all right, that's
30:33
that's one to keep in the in the back of the brain.
30:36
And his play on special teams last year definitely earned him
30:40
some of that respect from Kirk. But yeah, it wouldn't shock me
30:43
if it's by the end of September, but I I would say probably more
30:48
so by October, just just based on timeline.
30:51
Either way, I do think there's definitely a strong possibility
30:54
he starts this season. Ellie, you can't say left tackle
30:57
what what's the seemingly is everybody's concern?
31:00
What's your biggest concern when it comes to this roster?
31:07
I would probably say between that that corner spot, that
31:13
second corner spot and in the linebacker spot and and that's
31:16
nothing particularly Mike linebacker.
31:19
That's not necessarily something against Jaden Harrell when I
31:21
mentioned that he did struggle against UCLA last year, but we
31:27
just we just haven't seen him right.
31:29
I mean, it's the same thing, the same conversation we were having
31:32
about J Higgins a few years ago is that, I mean, he was playing
31:35
that, but we hadn't seen him play the Mike linebacker spot,
31:39
arguably the most important position on the defensive side
31:42
of the ball. And with with Jayden, it's the
31:44
same thing. He's been on special teams, he's
31:46
been around, he's learned the defense, he's got the knowledge.
31:49
Can he play at that Uber high level?
31:52
And maybe he doesn't have to, he doesn't have to be Jay Higgins.
31:56
He doesn't have to be Jack Campbell.
31:57
And I think the expectations like that are unfair.
31:59
But can he be a guy to to lock down the Mike linebacker spot?
32:03
Because I've heard a little bit about linebacker by committee
32:06
this coming year. I've seen guys like Cam
32:08
Buffington mentioning guys like Jane Montgomery, Landon Van
32:11
Creek, Rick even at that will linebacker spot.
32:14
And of course, like I like I mentioned Buffington Reese and
32:18
and wise cop, but to me that would be that would I don't know
32:23
if concern is is necessarily the right word, but a big question
32:27
mark right there at at Mike linebacker.
32:29
Otherwise, yeah, if I can't, if I can't say like tackle,
32:33
probably Mike linebacker or that DB2 spot.
32:36
Good stuff. Elliot Cleff from 24/7 Sports,
32:39
hawkeyeinsider.com. Elliot, thank you.
32:42
We will reach out to you as early as next week, if that's OK
32:45
with you. Appreciate the contribution,
32:47
pal. Thank you.
32:48
Yeah, that sounds great. Thanks guys.
32:50
Good to talk to you, Ellie Clough.
32:51
As we check in on the Hogs. We'll check in on the Kansas
32:54
City Chiefs with the voice of the Chiefs.
32:56
Mitch Holtis joins us next. Our number 2, Matt Snyder on
33:00
Major League Baseball. Bill Seals just covered Matt
33:02
Campbell's press conference latest on that at 12 at 1:30.
33:05
Miller and Condon, Iowa Sports Radio Network.
33:12
I'm Hillary Condon. Welcome back.
33:14
Iowa Sports Radio Network. Trent Condon, Ken Miller with
33:17
you until 2O clock week #2 daily training camp reports.
33:21
Kansas City Chiefs Mitch Holtis is the voice.
33:24
They're sponsored every day by our friends at Papa John's
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throughout the state of Iowa. And Mitch is back with us for
33:31
another week. Hello, Mitch, Trenton, Ken, how
33:33
are you? Well, Trent's back.
33:35
Yes, he is. How's he look, Ken?
33:38
Tanned. Tanned.
33:40
Yeah, A. Lot of beach time.
33:41
Does he look? Does he look jacked?
33:43
He's looked buffed. Yep, all of those things, just
33:45
as you expect. Remember the report last week we
33:49
talked about Kelsey getting in better shape this year and he
33:52
went down to Florida with this guy Tony Veloni, right?
33:56
The XPR workout. Little known fact, Trent went to
34:00
the same place. That's where you were.
34:02
I'm swole. Yeah.
34:04
Yeah. Thick.
34:05
It's make a difference, that's for sure.
34:07
He's a glowing endorsement for him, as is Mr. Kelsey.
34:11
Yes. So weekends come and gone.
34:14
Here we go. Game week.
34:15
We do have a game this week, right?
34:17
A preseason affair coming up this weekend and we're we last
34:21
week we talked about the Mount Rushmore, but you know, it, it
34:24
seemingly there was a couple of times last week that this guy,
34:27
although not there yet, just the start to his career, George
34:30
Karloftis, who we're Speaking of what a rocket ship that he's
34:34
risen right out of the gate, ridden rather right out of the
34:37
gate. They signed him in the in the
34:39
offseason, which is good news. Look, he was a first round pick,
34:43
so you're supposed to make an impact Mitch.
34:45
I think he's done more than that, fair to say.
34:48
Yeah, especially Ken in the playoffs.
34:50
What is under appreciated? He's nine and one in his first
34:55
three years in the playoffs. 8 sacks in those ten playoff
34:58
games. I think 16 quarterback hits in
35:01
those ten playoff games and two huge fumble recoveries.
35:07
And I know Kittles near and dear to the Hawkeye hearts.
35:11
But in Super Bowl 58, Kittles like talking smack on Carlaftus
35:15
and Carlaftus is like, hey, George, hold my beer while I go
35:18
recover this fumble by Christian McCaffrey.
35:21
Can you do that? And so that's a huge players.
35:23
The open drive of the game. The Carlaftus is that way now.
35:26
I think he's growing even more so Ken, and he's had an
35:29
incredible spring, a really good summer and a incredible start to
35:35
this training. He can, and I just ask him in
35:37
three years how much he has learned.
35:40
So much, I mean, since my rookie year with Frank Clark, Carlos
35:43
Dunlap, Chris Jones, a guy, a guy that I've had now even with
35:46
me, a guy like Joe Cullen, Terry Brady and now Alex Whittingham,
35:51
we know we got a great group of players and coaches.
35:54
And now I'm starting to get to be one of those veteran guys
35:57
that is, you know, that is coaching up the young guys, if
35:59
you will. And, you know, Spags says this
36:01
all the time, you know, masteries when you could teach
36:03
another person what what it is, you know.
36:05
So, you know, I I'm definitely seeing myself transition into
36:09
more of that role and always challenging myself to be better
36:12
than the day before. That's kind of the whole thing
36:14
with Coach Reed. It's, you know, being better
36:16
than the next day, the day before.
36:18
So yeah, just trying to keep getting better every single day.
36:20
How much of Gelati's that is like Minnie George?
36:23
I think a lot, man. I think that he's going to be a
36:25
heck of a player. He's definitely going to work
36:27
his butt off and he's going to be excited to watch.
36:31
Karloftis is a remarkable human. Had to take over his family,
36:35
basically 12 years old, because of Greek law, because his father
36:39
passed away suddenly when he was on an engineering trip.
36:43
The guy's just He continues to grow.
36:45
He's quicker, faster, tougher off the edge.
36:48
If a man who stays healthy, Chris Jones right now is
36:51
unblockable and then Karloftis does his own stuff, he could be
36:57
he could be a byproduct of those other two guys, but do his own
37:00
thing. How deep does this team go a
37:03
defensive end? I mean, I look at, you know, the
37:06
probably the disappointment of Felix at this point in his
37:08
career at first rounder that just hasn't panned out when he
37:11
looked at the depth of that position behind Carloftis.
37:13
Dana, you mentioned Manu, what he's been able to do.
37:16
Yeah, this feels really deep. How deep are they going to go on
37:19
the actual 53 man roster? They're going to cut some really
37:23
good guys. I'm telling you, Trent, and
37:25
they'll probably go, I don't know, you go 6, they're not
37:28
going to keep any more than 10 up front.
37:30
And then you think of inside guys, but we've also last week
37:34
we talked about guys going inside and outside and kind of
37:37
mix and matching. But Felix has actually had a
37:40
decent start to this camp and he was a he was good at the end of
37:43
last year, he had a big time sack against Pittsburgh in a
37:46
game they had to win to get the one seed on Christmas Day.
37:50
And so we're seeing a little bit of move forward.
37:52
There's just a lot of dudes in that room.
37:54
And I said Geladi, that's how I was joking about.
37:57
He's called the Mini George because he was at Louisville,
37:59
but he was coached by the same guy that coach Carloftis at
38:02
Purdue. So they're kind of kindred
38:05
spirits. But you've got another explosive
38:07
rookie defender there. Now, I'm not just saying this
38:10
because Ken's here. I think overall the best
38:12
defensive front in the NFL is Denver.
38:15
I think those and Zach Allen's the most underrated inside
38:18
defender in the league. I mean, Bonita, we go right down
38:21
the line, but the Chiefs aren't far behind.
38:24
Nobody's talking about them. And if these guys stay healthy,
38:28
what I've seen so far, they will be one of the stories of the
38:31
2025 season and that's the Chiefs defensive front,
38:34
especially the edge guys. But again, they're going inside
38:36
and outside, so it's hard to find them.
38:39
What's the preseason game week like for for coach Reed,
38:42
etcetera. Instilling a game plan, which
38:44
you can, knowing that you're going to, you know, a lot of
38:46
guys going in and coming onto the field and off of the field.
38:49
Well, what's how different is it?
38:51
Mitch has to be significant, right?
38:54
Fabulous question. It depends on the weekend.
38:56
Week 1, no change. It's just a game at the end of
38:59
the week. They are trying to get so much
39:01
done this week. 3 days in pads, there's no ramp down or whatever
39:06
or throttle down. It's throttle up starting
39:08
tomorrow. They're going to hit it hard.
39:10
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday will fly to Arizona.
39:12
Friday, play them on Saturday come right back.
39:15
Week 2 of the preseason a little bit different and then Week 3
39:21
they try to replicate a regular season week, so it's very
39:26
different. It depends on the week, but this
39:27
week it's just more of the same. There's too much work that has
39:30
to get done before the Chiefs open their season in Sao Paulo,
39:33
Brazil, against the Chargers. Well, you mentioned that you got
39:36
that long road trip. Is it a disadvantage?
39:38
In the past you got 2 at home, 2 away.
39:41
Well now you only of course get it's two and one, one way or the
39:44
other, two games on the road to start things out.
39:46
Is that a disadvantage in your mind for Kansas City?
39:49
Here's what, here's where that's a factor and it's an excellent
39:52
question. You guys are on fire today.
39:55
You're playing on the West Coast twice.
39:57
You're going to get back at 5:00 in the morning.
39:59
Now what does that do? Because you're going to, you'll
40:01
have a so-called day off, but it's really 1/2 day off.
40:04
You've got to be back on campus after we go to play the
40:07
Cardinals. So it's a tough three days.
40:09
I'll talk about that next week. But when you're playing on the
40:12
road and you're you're, you're, yeah, you're getting taxed
40:15
travel wise in the preseason, it does not help.
40:18
And so last year, one of the breaks that she said in the
40:21
regular season, people didn't talk about it.
40:23
We really only had one of those 5:00 AM get home games.
40:26
And it was actually an East Coast game going east to West
40:29
against the Atlanta Falcons. And it was Week 3.
40:32
We had none the rest of the year.
40:34
And we had to play 3 and 10 days and all that.
40:37
But we didn't have the 5:00 AM get home, 5:00 AM get home.
40:40
Those will take their toll on you at some point during the
40:45
season. So even in the preseason,
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there's a it's a little bit taxing because guys just start
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jumping up and, you know, raring to go when they they, their,
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their travel is challenged. Papa John's throughout the state
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of Iowa. Mitch will be back tomorrow.
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Tell us about the special. Mitch, the music is playing.
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We will talk to you tomorrow. Thank you buddy.
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Get the Cheeseburger Pizza 1299. There you go.
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Mitch Holt is the voice of the Chiefs.
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Hour 2 is next.