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Ray Lewis on Lack of Black Sports Owners · Earn Your Leisure

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  Speaker 1: Stop with endorsements.
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  Speaker 2: That's a check, and if somebody's able to write you
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  Speaker 2: that check, well then I don't want to check.
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. I signed my third contract.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sitting in the room and the owner walks in
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  Speaker 2: and he says, listen, we're gonna make him the highest
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  Speaker 2: paid player in the game.
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  Speaker 1: So they give me fifty million dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Right, They give me twenty up front, and my agent
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  Speaker 2: looked at me and I got up and walked out
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  Speaker 2: of the room, and he was like, what's wrong. Why
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  Speaker 2: are you walking out of the room. I said, because
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  Speaker 2: it finally clear player money no longer impresses me. I
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  Speaker 2: want to know what he does because if he can
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  Speaker 2: pay me this much, then I need.
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  Speaker 1: To learn that show. Someone makes some noise, super Baul
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  Speaker 1: got head.
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  Speaker 3: The sun is out.
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  Speaker 1: My mic work.
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  Speaker 4: Bigo made some noise for the legend Ray Lewis, ladies
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  Speaker 4: and gentlemen, the best ever in this position, one of
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  Speaker 4: the best ever to play the game.
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  Speaker 3: For more importantly, a great man, a great humanitarian.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you for doing this, brother Prero. I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: what you guys are doing.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely life changing messages and it's just beautiful to know, absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely, So I think, you know, obviously people know the
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  Speaker 5: football career enough from the athletic side, obviously the Hall
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  Speaker 5: of Fame, one of the best ever to do it,
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  Speaker 5: but you're doing.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of stuff on the business side. So I
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  Speaker 1: kind of want to start there to back. Let's go
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  Speaker 1: back to nineteen ninety six and when you're getting drafted and.
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  Speaker 5: The gentleman by the name of Ozlemus who played they
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  Speaker 5: played an introvidual obviously bringing.
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  Speaker 1: It to the team, but also mentally do when got
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  Speaker 1: to do off the field.
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  Speaker 6: So talking about the role of the impact that Osny
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  Speaker 6: had on your life, Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: It was interesting because first drafted me to Baltimore. I'm
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  Speaker 7: sitting there in the locker and waiting on this phone
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  Speaker 7: call and he calls and says, we're going to draft
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  Speaker 7: you to Baltimore. And I says, I said, Baltimore doesn't
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  Speaker 7: have a.
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  Speaker 1: Team, Like how are you drafting me to Baltimore? You know?
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  Speaker 2: And he's like, nah, you know, we coming from Cleveland.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, what all of the teams I could
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  Speaker 2: have been drafted to? I go to freaking Baltimore And
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  Speaker 2: from the first day, man, when he told me, I
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  Speaker 2: was coming in. What he invested into me on the
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  Speaker 2: field was one thing, but the investment that he gave
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  Speaker 2: me off the field was everything. And there was everything
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  Speaker 2: about the front office and understanding how the entire machine
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  Speaker 2: actually runs. And at a very young age, I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to know that because I just didn't want to be
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  Speaker 2: a player on the field, I wanted to be a
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  Speaker 2: player off the field as well. And so Ozzy still
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  Speaker 2: to this day, he just called me a week ago,
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about some stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So we had that relationship since I was nineteen years old.
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  Speaker 2: And now I'm forty seven years old with that same
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  Speaker 2: relationship with Osn' So I.
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  Speaker 3: Want to talk about some financial stuff that we were
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  Speaker 3: talking over there, and you were saying, have a lot
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  Speaker 3: of guys, you know, obviously make a lot of you know,
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  Speaker 3: poor decisions when it comes to finances. What you know,
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  Speaker 3: talking about taxes and what looks like a forty million
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  Speaker 3: dollar contract really isn't a forty million dollar contract.
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  Speaker 1: Can you can you kind of break that down a
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  Speaker 1: little bit? Yeah, Look, it's really simple.
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of us look at athletes contracts
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  Speaker 2: and the first thing you look at is the number, right,
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  Speaker 2: But the one thing you don't look at is how
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  Speaker 2: much of that number is gone before you even signed
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  Speaker 2: the check.
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  Speaker 1: Right, that number does not really.
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  Speaker 2: Exist, right, so you say, oh my gosh, this guy
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  Speaker 2: made one hundred million dollars. Absolutely not right. Forty percent
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  Speaker 2: is coming to Uncle Sam or whoever that is that
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  Speaker 2: you're paying your money to immediately. And so what I
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  Speaker 2: started to do, probably in year eight or nine, is
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  Speaker 2: really started to understand.
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  Speaker 1: Why I was not counting my own money.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: We hire people to count our money for us.
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  Speaker 2: We hire people to get a to give us monthly
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  Speaker 2: updates right on, oh well you spent this month.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't need you to tell me that.
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  Speaker 2: If I see my statements myself, if I know what
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  Speaker 2: every plenty of my money is going, then yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: can do that myself. And so interesting enough, when I
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  Speaker 2: got done planning a partner with a guy recently by
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  Speaker 2: the MEMBA, Julio Gonzales, probably one of the number one
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  Speaker 2: tax guys in the world, and for him to take
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  Speaker 2: me through the entire tax bracket and how they don't
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  Speaker 2: pay taxes. You know, you think about rich, Being rich
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  Speaker 2: is great because you can buy a lot of things.
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  Speaker 1: Being wealthy. You can pass that to the generation, at
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  Speaker 1: the generation, at the generation.
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  Speaker 2: But you have to know it's not about making money,
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  Speaker 2: it's how do you keep money? That's the number one
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  Speaker 2: rule of life. Right, I can people can pay you
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  Speaker 2: see it all the time. People pay athletes all the time,
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  Speaker 2: pay actors all the time. You never get an opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to sit in the rooms where they're talking about own
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  Speaker 2: ownership or partnership. Why because the most important thing is
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  Speaker 2: a relationship. And they don't have a relationships with athletes.
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  Speaker 2: They have a relationships with a number. A number is
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  Speaker 2: fifty two, a number is eighty, a number is thirty two,
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  Speaker 2: A numbers, whatever your number is, that's what they relate to.
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  Speaker 1: Why because that's what makes their money. Right.
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  Speaker 2: But one of the biggest disconnects that all players must understand.
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  Speaker 2: I stopped taking endorsements two thousand and ten, twenty ten.
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  Speaker 2: Why I bought my name back. Why Because I don't
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  Speaker 2: need endorsements right like I want ownership right. I want
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  Speaker 2: partnership right because partnership being dictates and shows me what
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  Speaker 2: a relationship is.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Every hand that I've shook in my professional career, that
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  Speaker 2: hand remembered why I shook their hand, And it was
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  Speaker 2: not because they wrote me a check. It's because I
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  Speaker 2: told them I'll be seeing them again on the other
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  Speaker 2: side of football.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's the exciting part for me. Yeah, yes, sir.
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  Speaker 3: So when did that light bulb click for somebody educating you.
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  Speaker 2: On that Yeah, and you have to search for that education.
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  Speaker 2: So one of the greatest educators ever. And regardless of
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  Speaker 2: what anybody thinks, if you don't have a relationship with God,
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  Speaker 2: it's almost impossible to control your life, right, Like, you
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  Speaker 2: have to have someone who's in the forefront of your
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  Speaker 2: life that you actually go to.
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  Speaker 1: So God has been in my life my entire life.
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  Speaker 2: My mom's a pastor and my dad was a pastor
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  Speaker 2: before he passed last year.
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  Speaker 1: So I've always been raised from that core. But that's
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  Speaker 1: the foundation of who you are.
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  Speaker 2: So when you start to look for information and you
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  Speaker 2: start to pray for God to surround you around the
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  Speaker 2: right people. I had the wrong people around me when
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  Speaker 2: I was in my twenties, but by the time I
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  Speaker 2: got in my mid thirties, God was surrounding me around
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  Speaker 2: people that can educate me right, and once I started
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  Speaker 2: to grab that education, that's food.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: He says that you would know my people about the
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  Speaker 2: fruit that they bear. So I wanted to know the
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  Speaker 2: fruit that the people was around me. What fruit are you, Barren?
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  Speaker 2: Don't tell me. You can show me how to make money.
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  Speaker 2: I can make money myself, but show me how I
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  Speaker 2: can affect people, right, show me how I can dictate
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  Speaker 2: my next part of my legacy. Making typos is great. Right,
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  Speaker 2: planning the National Football League was one of the most
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  Speaker 2: amazing things ever. Is why because they brought my mother
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  Speaker 2: out of the good right. And so that's where I
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  Speaker 2: think guys have to take a deeper dive if you
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  Speaker 2: really want to change your life, because if you really
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  Speaker 2: believe money is gonna do it, it won't right. It'll
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  Speaker 2: give you ups and mounds. The devil has the same power.
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  Speaker 2: God has the only power he doesn't have. He can't
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  Speaker 2: save your life, but he can give you everything that
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  Speaker 2: this world offers, and most of it is fans, most
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  Speaker 2: of it is shiny, and most of it spins right.
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  Speaker 2: God gives you things that does the opposite, and all
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  Speaker 2: lords people say, hey, man, so you told about in
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  Speaker 2: your twenties and you know being here this week super
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  Speaker 2: Bowl week, it's been kind of a common.
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  Speaker 6: Theme amongst some of the players is that yet early
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  Speaker 6: on in their career, they didn't have the people around them,
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  Speaker 6: they didn't have the education, and a lot of it
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  Speaker 6: is because they didn't care to know, because they were
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  Speaker 6: taking recommendations from people.
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  Speaker 1: It's the setup, it's what happens.
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  Speaker 2: And when you're seventeen years old, When you're seventeen years old,
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  Speaker 2: this agent walks up to you.
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  Speaker 1: He says, don't mention my name again, but I want
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  Speaker 1: to be your agent.
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  Speaker 2: And you, because you're broke and you have absolutely nothing,
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  Speaker 2: you say, wow, okay, I'll stay in touch with you.
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  Speaker 2: And while you stand in touch with him, he then
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  Speaker 2: follows your career and wait till you get into your
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  Speaker 2: junior senior year, my junior year, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And then there was there was times.
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  Speaker 2: Right, there's a nil deal now out there, So who
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  Speaker 2: cares about what I tell now?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 6: But statue limitations they have been fired express.
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  Speaker 2: But when you take my you take what I was
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  Speaker 2: doing in nineteen ninety four, bro nineteen ninety four is
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  Speaker 2: what they're letting kids do now.
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  Speaker 1: I was saying, why can't you be paid? Right?
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  Speaker 2: That's you cannot tell me if somebody wants to help
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  Speaker 2: me out because of what I do why can't you
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  Speaker 2: allow that? So when that started to being allowed in
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  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety four, man, listen, bro bags bags being dropped off,
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  Speaker 2: Bro like double bag boy, ruffle bags, Like, you're not
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  Speaker 2: talking to me unless I have a bag dropped off.
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  Speaker 2: So then, but it's a system, right because a friend
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  Speaker 2: forget the friend. The friend says, hey, ray, I got
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  Speaker 2: this person, I got this person, I got a lawyer,
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  Speaker 2: I got an agent, I got bro And you're like,
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  Speaker 2: before you know it, you don't trust it somebody that
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  Speaker 2: you have not built a relationship with, and you just
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  Speaker 2: give them your whole check, I mean you right over
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  Speaker 2: then entire check and you've never sat with them or
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  Speaker 2: have dinner with them, and then in your life. And
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  Speaker 2: that's the system of how our kids are taught on
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  Speaker 2: how to go into the National Football League NBA all
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  Speaker 2: these different things and trust people that have not put
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  Speaker 2: no sweat equity into who we are. Right, it's criminal
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  Speaker 2: right to a certain person to a certain point, and.
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  Speaker 1: So I wanted to change that, which I did. So.
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  Speaker 3: So you mentioned in a nil. How do you feel
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  Speaker 3: about nil? I think it's the nil deal was supposed
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  Speaker 3: to be different, right? What does that mean? These major
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  Speaker 3: colleges have endowment funds.
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  Speaker 2: Right, the universe of minment has an endowment fund almost
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  Speaker 2: forty billion dollars or more. Those kids are supposed to
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  Speaker 2: eat from that fund. They're not supposed to eat from outside. Now,
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  Speaker 2: once you let people from outside come in, then that's
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  Speaker 2: where the division of the locker room starts. Why because
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  Speaker 2: you pay a quarterback a million dollars, but you paid
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  Speaker 2: the lineman nothing but the quarterback came through the ball
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  Speaker 2: un less than linement blocking. Right, So all of the
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  Speaker 2: way it was supposed to be this. When I was
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  Speaker 2: arguing the issue, I was saying, listen, if my number
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  Speaker 2: fifty two makes a certain dollar amount, then I should
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  Speaker 2: eat from that. Why should I eat from my money
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  Speaker 2: from my name that I make? You you cannot make
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  Speaker 2: money off my name.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: There's no Fortune five hundred company in America that you
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  Speaker 2: can use their brand.
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  Speaker 1: You cannot use the NFL logo by yourself.
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  Speaker 2: You wear a shirt and you advertise that they gonna
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  Speaker 2: want a percentage of that, Well, then my name should
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  Speaker 2: represent the same thing, and every athlete should represent that
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  Speaker 2: exact same thing, which it doesn't, right because the NFLPA
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  Speaker 2: we're up under this brand, right, I made over Jesus
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  Speaker 2: my Jersey from two thousand and five to two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and eight.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, listen, hundreds of millions of dollars.
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  Speaker 2: I have it, You have it, and you and think
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  Speaker 2: about a two hundred and fifty dollars jersey and I
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  Speaker 2: got a five thousand dollars check. Sum's off with that math.
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  Speaker 2: Sum's off of that math. But it's the same thing
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  Speaker 2: with the nil dealing. Pay the kids from where they
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  Speaker 2: make the money. Don't let outside endorsers come in once again,
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  Speaker 2: the endorsement model, because that takes the that's that takes.
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  Speaker 1: The attention off of them.
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  Speaker 2: The endorsement model is not the way to go, man,
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  Speaker 2: And I'm telling you it's gonna it's gonna continue to
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  Speaker 2: divide our children.
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  Speaker 1: Just like the portal.
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  Speaker 2: The portal is cool, but the portal takes the leash
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  Speaker 2: off what greatness really is.
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  Speaker 1: Man's greatness hurts.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot of down days that you got to
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  Speaker 2: go through to find out what greatness is. And now
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  Speaker 2: kids are in the portal and they can run away
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  Speaker 2: from that so quickly they disagree with the coach. I'm
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  Speaker 2: transferring this year. You know, I got four sons. I
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  Speaker 2: got four kings. I got two queens, and I went
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  Speaker 2: through that whole battle. And I'm sitting there sad son
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  Speaker 2: earn a job. I was never given a job. I
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  Speaker 2: had to take a job, you know. And so a
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  Speaker 2: lot of these things that they're creating, I think it's
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  Speaker 2: taking the issue off what the real issue is, Like,
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  Speaker 2: our kids should be paid, but they should be compensated
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  Speaker 2: from where the money sits, and that's in this endowment funds.
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  Speaker 1: That's an absolute fact. Man. I've not even thought about that,
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  Speaker 1: the endowments of the schools.
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  Speaker 6: But you said endorsements aren't the way, and so it
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  Speaker 6: makes me wonder at that point, you're getting a salary
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  Speaker 6: from the NFL, but you're not doing endorsements. We all,
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  Speaker 6: you know, we preach having one income.
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  Speaker 1: It's too close to none.
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  Speaker 6: What other type of alternatives that you seek to find
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  Speaker 6: a way to make money off the field? Partnerships? Okay, partnerships.
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  Speaker 2: Right, everybody wants to shake your hand and they want
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  Speaker 2: to make you the greatest thing ever. Right, Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 2: come do this, come speak here, come do that. I
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  Speaker 2: will if I own part of that. Because of my
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  Speaker 2: own part of that, then I got ownership in that
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  Speaker 2: and if I got ownership and that, then I speak
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  Speaker 2: about it a little more boldly, right, little more fast.
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  Speaker 2: I have a little more energy of getting up every
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  Speaker 2: morning to come do what you want me to do.
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  Speaker 2: No matter how much you own, right, think about owned
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent of nothing, that's nothing. But if you got
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  Speaker 2: your hands and enough things that I got my hands in, man,
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  Speaker 2: I got percentage of this.
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  Speaker 1: I got twenty eight thirty thirty plus companies.
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  Speaker 2: Man that my hands is in that I own or partner,
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  Speaker 2: which means I have a relationship with them. If I
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  Speaker 2: can teach my kids stop with endorsements.
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  Speaker 1: That's a check.
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  Speaker 2: And if somebody's able to write you that check, well
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  Speaker 2: then I don't want to check. I'll give you example.
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  Speaker 2: I signed my third contract. I'm sitting in the room
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  Speaker 2: and the owner walks in and he says, listen, we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna make him the highest paid player in the game.
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  Speaker 2: So they give me fifty million dollars, right, they give
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  Speaker 2: me twenty up front.
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  Speaker 1: And my agent looked at me, and I got up.
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  Speaker 2: And walked out of the room, and he was like,
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  Speaker 2: what's wrong.
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  Speaker 1: How are you walking out of the room.
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  Speaker 2: I said, because it finally cleared player money. No longer
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  Speaker 2: impresses me. I want to know what he does because
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  Speaker 2: if he can pay me this much, then I need
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  Speaker 2: to learn that business.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So athletes think about this.
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  Speaker 2: Athletes are never introduced to the owner concept until you
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  Speaker 2: make enough money because they tell you I'll put you
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  Speaker 2: in the next slot. Right, every athlete is slotted. So
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  Speaker 2: whether you think an agent is relevant or not, every
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  Speaker 2: athlete the number is already marked. So when you come
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  Speaker 2: to that number, you're like, I want a few more million.
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  Speaker 2: I want a few hundred thousand more maybe, but you're slotted.
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  Speaker 2: So they always make us think about the player. And
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  Speaker 2: then I wanted to know what an owner thinks like.
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  Speaker 2: So then I started to sitting myself around owners and
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  Speaker 2: I started to say, why that's a different conversation than
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  Speaker 2: I have in the locker room full of players. They
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  Speaker 2: don't even think about ownership. They don't even think about
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  Speaker 2: owning their IP at all. The only thing they think
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  Speaker 2: about is the next check. When you become a boss,
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  Speaker 2: you don't think about your next check.
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  Speaker 3: You right, the checks. That's the difference. Absolutely, that's the ball.
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  Speaker 3: So ownership. Staying on the ownership theme the NFL, I
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  Speaker 3: think it's like maybe sixty five percent of black players
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  Speaker 3: make up the NFL, so seventy three seventy three, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: no black ownership. So there's the Rooney rule to try to,
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  Speaker 3: you know, have more black head coaches, which a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people think that that's flawed, but at least they
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  Speaker 3: have something in place. What are your thoughts on having
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  Speaker 3: the majority of the league be black players, have no
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  Speaker 3: black ownership and how can we get it to the
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  Speaker 3: point where there is representation in the owner's box.
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  Speaker 2: We own and we control sports, right, Blacks dominate that
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: from an NFL level. But you're not changing that unless
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: you're sitting in the ownership rooms. So we can argue
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: all we want to about not having black coaches, but
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: until we get a black owner in that office or two,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: then that ain't changing.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: No matter what rule you want to talk about.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying, like, we only look for
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: the check, We only look for the position that's given.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: In today's time, it's time for us to take that.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: That's what partnerships and ownership is, right. My goal is simple.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: My goal has never changed. I'm forty seven years old.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: In the next five to seven years, my goal is
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: to put myself in the right position to possibly become
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: the first black minority owner International Football League.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Why because I want to change the narrative.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Right, If we don't do that, If we don't do that,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: then no conversation changes.
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: Why do you think that hasn't happened. It's simple because
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: I'm thinking about this. Seventy three percent of you right
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: control the league. We got some of the greatest players
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: that's ever played this game, multi millionaires. How come there's
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: never been Oh, maybe there has been a conversation to
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: come together as a group to become more of the minority,
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: or become the investment group behind the ownership of a team.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: If the attraction from little league to college, from little
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: league to high school to college to the National and
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Football League, the attraction is to make a check. The
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: attraction is to get out the hood. The attraction has
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: never been how do you become owner? Nobody teaches that,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: and let's just sitting in that room to listen what
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: owners are discussing. So luckily in my career I was
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: able to start sitting in those rooms. Yeah, to sit
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: there and listen what they're talking about. And I said,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: and I started to say it, I said, man, they
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: was like, Oh my gosh, this much player signed for
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: this much money. I said, that does not impress me.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Do you know the person who's writing a check, That's
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: what I'm chasing. And so until that dynamic starts to
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: really change and we have enough of us who understands
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: our true power is what we can do together. But
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: the individual individual check is written, and then so this
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: person gonna I gotta take my money.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I gotta take my money. I gotta take my money.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I gotta take my money.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: And it's great, you can take your money, but the
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: generations after that, it's still the same model. I just
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: think the model can only change if we're sitting in
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: those owners' meetings.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Hees what I'm saying. There's a lot of investment.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: You asked me about coaching, right, There's a lot of
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: investment that goes into coaching.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of investing to go from coach to
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: the GMS, right GM to the owner.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Those are steps and you have to be invested to
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: do that. But you also have to have the education to.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Understand all of the aspects of the game and not
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: just playing the game.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: When you get in the front office, you're not only
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: just counting people checks. Right, you're talking about everything that
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: walks in that building, right, tomorrow's game.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: The only thing we see is a game.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Man, that's a zillion dollar business, right, with intricate parts
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: that everybody has to be in control of. And so
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: that's why I'm telling you, like, until you start to
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: sit down and study that world, it's and that's one vertical.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Go to the MLB, go to the NBA, NHL, same model.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: A bunch of owners got together, put a pool together,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Let's make this money, let's build this That's what they do, right.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: So we have the ability, but.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Because of the checks being so current, it never causes
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: our mind to become owner.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: We're okay with being a player.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: So I started to make a transition halfway through my career.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: So when you you were fortunate enough to be in
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: those owners' meetings, what's some of the things that you
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: learn from just sitting and listening to the conversations.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Man, nothing matters to them but what each one of
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: them think seriously like And that's what I respect about
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: that needing. It's like, that's why I go back to
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: talking about partnership. Partnerships in life, it's only based off
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: one thing. Relationships.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: That's it. Bro who you do, partner, who you partner with,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: that's a relationship.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: And that's what I respect so much about the relationships
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: that they have in that circle of power.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: That they have. That's why they signed deals together. That's
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: why they broke the TV deals together.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: You know, it's like it's a genius concept, right, but
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: how many of us will really come together and break
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: that concept.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: You said something that was very insightful. You said that
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: they only care about what each other think.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: That's it that you don't.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: You don't care about what somebody else show does, you
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: work your show, you call your guy.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Or you don't care about just what yourself thinks. You
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: got to give a mince no, you what The overall
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: theme is, we have a machine.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: The machine must run, right, Players careers three years, three
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: and a half years, and the next one come in,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and the next one come in, and the next one
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: come in. It's a revolving do in all the sports,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: all the sports has ran exactly like this. That's why
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: the next thing, the next only the most important person
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: and an athlete life in the owners perspective, is the
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: next one.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. It's on the way they work. Nobody's bigger
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: in the progress. It's the only way.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: It's the only way that works. Bro, there's nobody bigger
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: than the bigger than the machine.
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: You reference the fact that I asked you about coaching,
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: but the answer I got, I think we should elaborate
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: on there. With the power impact and it's something that
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: I had to experience working in education and realize I
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: can effect the school, but I could affect the world
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: doing something different.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Talk about why you haven't chosen the coach because of
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the power of impact.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the coaching side is it's attractive, right,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: because I've been into my entire life. I've been playing,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I've been coaching, I've been mentored, I've been.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Doing a lot of those things.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: But with the impact that I'm trying to make, I
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: just want to hear the Lord when I finally go
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: home say well done, my good and faithful certain I
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: don't think that's just going to come from me being
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: a great football player. I think that's gonna come from
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: me making an impact on people and being a light
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: amongst people to show them the way. God says many
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: a call, but few are chosen. Sending a question I
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: got this how do you become a part of the few?
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Right, That's a real question, right.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: And so coaching is great, and I'm forty seven, so
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: maybe I'll coach at fifty five. But with what I'm
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: doing with each one of my companies, one of my
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: ventures being fifty two ventures Prosperity Reimagined, is how do
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: we go into these communities and how do we change
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: the look of those communities? All this money that they
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: keep saying, we're giving this much money to black communities,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I have not seen one black community change so fact,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: and I mean real change, right. So that for me,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I've sat down studied them twenty plus years. I've been
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: in the hoods, I've been in the presence. I'm walking around,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure it out. And every time I
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: see Martin Luther King Street, I'm saying, why is Martin
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Luther King Street in the most dysfunctional place in the city?
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: That has to change.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: So that's why I think my focus and what I'm
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: focusing on now is much bigger. So if I want
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: to come back to coach, and I will, I just
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: don't think right.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Now is the time. Yeah.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: So we always hear hard stories of athletes getting taken
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: advantage of from financial advisors, from accountants, from lawyers, everyone.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: How what is the process to actually be able to
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: trust somebody and what should you never do to kind
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: of safeguard yourself from being taken advantage of?
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you should always have three layers, right,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: you share your spiritual foundation, your family foundation, and then
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: your business foundation, and all three of those layers, we
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: must have somebody at every level right to spiritually guide you. Family,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: somebody you trust, and then business is somebody who has
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: to answer to your family and your spiritual guidance, right,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: because once they have to answer to them. The problem
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: is we do an opposite, right, talent opens the door,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: We go in and we sign a check. As soon
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: as we signed the check, the first thing we do
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: is sign it over to an agent that we just
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: met two weeks ago, who then passes to his financial team,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: and then they start deshriving your money and you never
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: see your money ever again.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: So we have to check. But it's the model.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: It's the model, right, and every almost every person goes
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: down that same model.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: If you don't change that model.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: About one of the things I started doing with my
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: financial visor, right, I said every penny, every penny that
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: leaves or comes into my account, I should be alerted
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: every penny, right, And what does that mean? I should
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: have the same access you have. You should not have
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: to call me in two weeks to report on my money. No,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I should be reporting to you what I want to
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: do with my money. But that's taking ownership, right. It's
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: back the ownership, and it's back the partnership. A great
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: partnership with my financial teams, and I have ownership of
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: all of my entire world.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: And that's why I like to say it.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I got spiritual guidance, I got family guidance with my
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: mom and what she does. And then I have business
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: teams that actually oversee each other and making sure that
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Not being hustled, which I have. I've been down that road, bro,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: millions of dollars. Come on, man, why do you want
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: to talk about it? Bruh, talk about it.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I'm still looking for the people with knowledge, easy, easy
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: statute of limitations may not have this fire. No, it's
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: crazy because you trust people, maam, and you trust people
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: and you trust them to do what's best for you,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: and then you realize that that person equally yoked. That
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: person has no guide in their life, and all the
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: thing you trust is well, I've been in financial for
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: fifteen years, twenty years, okay, and now that I'm on
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: this side of life, I'm able to say and right, Nah,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: you got to ask those questions. The easiest thing to
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: do is give somebody a check. The hardest thing to
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: do is ask questions that you don't know that they don't.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Know how to tell you. It's the hardest thing to do.
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, let's talk about the work, right, because I can
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: hear the passion in you. I could imagine you coming
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: into a community. There's going to be a presence that
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: you feel. So let's talk about fifty two foundations and
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: the work that y'all are doing because it's incredible, right,
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: giving economic.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Consistence to the youth.
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: Talk about the obviously the goal of it, the start
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: of it, and how everything is being functioned inside of it.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one of them.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: One of my other companies started in twenty fifteen in
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Baltimore after the unrest of Freddie Gray, right, and at
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: that time, I started a solar company at the time,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: and why because I started walking the streets and the
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: streets of Baltimore was burning and everybody was just frustrated.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: And you know, Baltimore, it's beautiful, but it has a
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: bad black eye content to it. And so my company
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: started in two thousand and fifteen, and now, man Jesus,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I think we just had our twenty four to twenty
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: fifth graduation right to where now we took hundreds of
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: game members off the streets and we've given them options. Right,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: We've given them an alternative because they're not going to
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: work for a four or five dollars job. But if
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: you teach them a solo job, right, which then leads
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: into construction, which then leaves them leaving their block that
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: they're fighting for and leave the freaking state to go
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: work another job somewhere else, right, And so now you
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: give them And so the greatest ability to see that
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: is walk up to those graduations and listen to a
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: mother saying he gave up drug life and you saved
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: my son's life.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: It's the greatest reward you ever get in business.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: And so that's why with powerful the two foundation is
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: it's remarkable because it gives somebody a fresh breath of
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: that maybe I've made a mistake, but I can pick
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: myself up and I can keep going.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: And that's what we do. Right.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: So whether it's second and third chance of finding whoever
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: that may come in there, we give you second and
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: third chances, we give you fourth chances, we give you
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: fifth chances. Right, we have an eighty five percent placement rate.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: The moment you leave our school, you get hired immediately.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Right. If we don't start there.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Right, Another one of my partners we own We own
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: these waste managements in Baltimore. Another huge project from an
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: academy standpoint is in Genevo, Ohio called Spire Institute. Same
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: concept as IMG, but what we're doing inside of that
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: academy is we're teaching children how to actually function in
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: a very dysfunctioned culture.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: How do you do that? Right? That's why man the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: kem Bae Mtumbo finally partners. So now we have a.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Relationship with Africa, with NBA Africa coming through Spire.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Right with to Awakens, we can take kids who's.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Living in poverty and then put them at an eight
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand square floor building and feed them
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: every day and change their culture and change what they see.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: A lot of people focus on ROI return of investment
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: return of investment, return of investment. But if you think
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: about the communities that I live in, return of investment
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: is not the hot topic. The hot topic should be
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: what we created, which is IOWA imagination, opportunity access, right,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: clap it up for that, Yeah, that'd be bothered.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: So yeah, let me ask you this.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: You're in media, and that's something that a lot of athletes. Uh,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: it's very hot right now, right, and everybody when they retire,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: they want to become a broadcaster, but very few people
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: are actually able to be successful that in that space.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: So talk about how your transition and media happened and
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: how you were able to, you know, become successful in
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: another leg of your career. And like I said, that's
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: actually probably harder to be successful in TV than it
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: is on the field.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: People ask me all these questions every day, just every day,
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: like how can I do this? How can I get
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: bettering this? And I was like, and I was talking
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: to my team and I was like, man, you know,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: the podcast is great and I'm doing this and I
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: got this going, but I got to go a little
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: bit deeper, right, So I was like, you know what,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: every Friday, We're going to do fifty two Fridays because
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: this ironic year twenty twenty three days actually fifty two Fridays,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: and this year and inside of these fifty two Fridays,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: there will be a principle that you have to not
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: listen to, but you have to apply. And that principle
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: carries you to the next week until you get to
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: the next Friday. But by the time you get to
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: fifty two Fridays, you will have fifty two principles and
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: the only thing that fails is your application of them.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: That's it, right, because the principles will never change, it's
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: but you have to apply them right. And so that's
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: what fifty two Fridays was kind of birthed from, like
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: really sharing with watching the podcast grow it with the
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: way it grew, and then realizing like people are hearing it,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: but how many people are applying that. So fifty two
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Friday says, now apply information, apply that and now when
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: you apply it, I need you to send that back
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: to me. Show me your application, right, And so now
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: all of these fans and stuff are sending information back.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I'm off work, but I'm in the I'm in I'm
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: in my dungeon. At one and two o'clock in the morning. Right,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I said, I wasn't gonna eat this, so now I'm
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: working out right. So it's it's really crazy, man, when
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: you see how much traffic comes in of just people
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: just collaborating.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: You know. Awesome question.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: So football, we were talking offline ESPN thirty for thirty.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Oh wait they said that.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Well, we talked about if you guys were the greatest
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: defense ever. So you know, some people say the Bears,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: who said, that's a Chicago guy.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: You see, you saw the Bears era. So I'm gonna
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: respect that. I'm gonna respect that.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, But you you gave a very convincing argument
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: why you guys had the best defense. Can you talk
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: about why you think you have the best defense ever?
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I want, I'm gonna take think out of it. You
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: take think out of while you know you're the best defense. Yeah.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Look look, look, I'm I'm gonna leave it to you
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: like this. Right, the game is based off numbers. It'll
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: never changed. Right, what that defense done in that year
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: will never be repeated ever again. Right, we gave her,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: We gave up. This is in one game, running back
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: to running for two hundred yards three hundred yards teams
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: are running for four hundred yards. Right that entire year,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: we gave up nine hundred and sixty yards total. We
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: gave up less than ten points a game, nine point six,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: nine point six. We had five shutouts. We went five
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: weeks without scoring an offensive touchdown and one and one
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  Speaker 2: three out of those five. And we get into the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: And this is the stat that I I'm telling you, like,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: if you want to crown the greatest, we went into
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: the playoffs and we gave up one touchdown the entire playoffs.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: We went in the Super Bowl and they had sixteen possessions.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Run down, punt, run down, punt yeah, punt yeah, punt yeah,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: punt yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Interception punt yup, punt yeah, punt yeah, punt yeah, intercepts
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: there go, punt yeup, punt, punt punt innocelf.
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  Speaker 1: Game over.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, Ray, it's been a pleasurement. Before we leave,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: when you look back on your career, you've done so much,
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  Speaker 3: You've been tremendously blessed. What do you want your legacy
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: to be when it's all said and done.
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  Speaker 2: Man, That's the best question I've always gotten, because that
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: is the kind of the one of the most easiest questions,
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  Speaker 2: and that is I never cared about how great I became.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: I only cared about the people that was beside me.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: My brother's the brotherhood is was my greatest investment and
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: still to this day.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Last week in Vegas for the pro Bol, this week
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: here the.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Young men that was lost lions then come up to
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: me now and say, Papa, thank you for investing in
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: in me. So you can do a lot of things
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: in sports, and they can argue who's the best. But
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: when you have the ability to change the direction of
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: somebody's life, it's the greatest achievement you ever have in life.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: That's like this, make some noise for the legend, the
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: legend themselves