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Jags Broadcast Week in Review: April 16 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Jaguars Broadcast Weekend Review podcast presented by
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Speaker 1: t I. A. A. Bank, J P. Shadrick. With you
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Speaker 1: today is Friday, April sixteenth, two weeks to the NFL Draft.
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Speaker 1: We got the best of the week from Jaguars Broadcasting,
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Speaker 1: including Trevor Toaster Talk, d M. Trent Balky's history of
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Speaker 1: draft trading, plus the league's announcement of the off season program,
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Speaker 1: start Monday with Jaguars Reporters the podcast with Ashman Sullivan,
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Speaker 1: John Osier and I. We got into Trevor Lawrence Toaster Talk.
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Speaker 1: All right, everyone asked Trevor Lawrence steaking with him? A
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Speaker 1: married man got married this past weekend to his lovely
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Speaker 1: wife Marissa. And if you don't follow, did you watch
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Speaker 1: it live on wring? Was there a life? I don't
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Speaker 1: think that. No. Rude right? John turned it down. I
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Speaker 1: thought for sure I'd be on the time. John was busy,
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Speaker 1: he couldn't make it. If you want to see great content.
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Speaker 1: Follow his wife on Instagram. She posts all the wedding picks.
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Speaker 1: You get all the details that way. Trevor posts very little,
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Speaker 1: which I think none of us are surprised by. He's
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Speaker 1: a guys guy. Yeah, you have enough time for Instagram.
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Speaker 1: Marissa does the huge takeaway. I think everybody's sort of
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Speaker 1: a Jaguars Twitter bought. Then the toaster awesome smart and
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Speaker 1: the flat screen. I mean that's fantastic. There's and as
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Speaker 1: much as you know JP, I mean JP is not
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Speaker 1: as all the I'm the old man, so I can say,
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Speaker 1: here's a social media it's it's it's the world, you know.
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Speaker 1: But for all the weirdness and sometimes negative things that
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Speaker 1: the social media brain, this is the sort of thing
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Speaker 1: was that social media would never happen. We're living in
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Speaker 1: a in an incredibly strange interactive time or something like
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Speaker 1: this could happen for whatever. Jaguars Twitter, specifically Twitter in general,
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Speaker 1: forever toxic it can be. Sometimes this is an example
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Speaker 1: of how it's absolutely wonderful. So I guess they got
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Speaker 1: a toaster, so they got a vacuum cleaner, and then
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Speaker 1: the rest goes to a charity of Trevor Lawrence's choice. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think, which is pretty cool man. Seven. Yeah, it
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Speaker 1: raised over As of twelve hours ago, they were over
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Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars. It couldn't be more fun. Yeah, that's awesome.
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Speaker 1: What does a toaster not do? I guess it better
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Speaker 1: do everything? Of course, this will be in his lovely
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Speaker 1: home and better pull the toast out and dude itself.
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Speaker 1: Better butter butter it with butter jelly after the fact too.
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Speaker 1: It would be walking my dog. Yes, overall very cool
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Speaker 1: and congrats to the newly weds. Congratulations, very very cool.
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Speaker 1: He shows up here. I mean when you know, now
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Speaker 1: we're just congratulating King to be a good guy. That
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Speaker 1: would be a story. Do they take the toaster back
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Speaker 1: if if he's not? Oh my gosh. The Audacity and
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Speaker 1: Drama Jaguars Reporters runs Mondays on the Official Jaguars Podcast Network.
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Speaker 1: Now to Jack's Drive Time Tuesday morning. Early this week,
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Joe Cullen sat down with John Osier to
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Speaker 1: discuss the defensive scheme and much more. The reaction from Ashwyn,
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Speaker 1: John and Brian Sexton. One thing that is good, at
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Speaker 1: least for John Oser and Jaguars dot Com is we
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Speaker 1: got some type of clarification of what this defense is
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Speaker 1: going to look like. Defensive coordinator Joe Collins said, it
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Speaker 1: is going to look much more like a hybrid scheme.
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Speaker 1: It's not a set three four, it's not a four three.
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Speaker 1: There's going to be some in between. And John, that
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Speaker 1: was probably just music to your ears when you heard
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Speaker 1: everybody wants to take all this and fitted into it,
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Speaker 1: and they want to put it three four and they
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Speaker 1: want to put little things on a depth chart and
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Speaker 1: have it be through one to three and you're in
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Speaker 1: a organized It doesn't work that way because the NFL
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Speaker 1: has changed so much um from the days when you
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Speaker 1: did roll out there and you had a three four
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Speaker 1: defense with three lineman, four linebacker, four dvs and you
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Speaker 1: and you occasionally might put in a nickel or a
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Speaker 1: dime package. Now there are so many different situations you
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Speaker 1: change things based on who you're playing. It's a hybrid defense.
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Speaker 1: It's not fair to call it a pure three four
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Speaker 1: or pure four three. The reality is it's gonna change
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Speaker 1: based on who they're playing and on the strength of
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Speaker 1: the personnel, and for it's not necessarily going to print
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Speaker 1: going to fit your print out slap I know you're
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Speaker 1: a big factor in all this you want to answer,
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Speaker 1: but it's gonna be a hybrid defense. I would tell
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Speaker 1: you that it will be interesting to see the types
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Speaker 1: of players that they draft on the defensive side of
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Speaker 1: the ball. You remember this, John, back when when not
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Speaker 1: every defense was hybrid, Because let's be honest, every d
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinating the league is going to say something similar
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Speaker 1: to what Joe Collins said. You know, they'll have a
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Speaker 1: base here, but they'll give different looks. You know, you
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Speaker 1: get so many people in the line of scrimmage nowadays
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Speaker 1: it looks like an eight man front half the time.
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Speaker 1: So I'll be interested to see the guys that they draft.
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Speaker 1: If you remember back in the day when the Steelers
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Speaker 1: and the Ravens were the teams that and the Bills
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Speaker 1: primarily they had that big, hulking nose tackle Uh. They
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Speaker 1: didn't have these big, long, athletic defensive ends. They had
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Speaker 1: guys like Kimo von Olhoffen. You know, if you remember
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Speaker 1: him from the Steelers and Bengals days, you know six
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Speaker 1: ft four Uh wasn't a speed rusher, was more of
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Speaker 1: a defensive tackle playing at a five technique, and his
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Speaker 1: whole job was to try to jam up the corners
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Speaker 1: so that the ends could get outside. I'm just gonna
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Speaker 1: pay attention on draft day to the types of players,
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Speaker 1: the way the linebackers look. Um. You know, not every
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Speaker 1: team in the league saw Levon Kirkland out of Clemson
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Speaker 1: all those years ago as a Pro Bowl linebacker inside
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Speaker 1: in a three four defense. Lot of them thought he
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Speaker 1: was going to be a guy who put his hand
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Speaker 1: on the ground eventually because he was so big. So
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Speaker 1: we'll see what he does with with the type of personnel.
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Speaker 1: But the takeaway from me is every defense in the
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Speaker 1: league is some form of a hybrid. Yes, it's the
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Speaker 1: trendy thing to be nowadays. Is a hybrid defense, Well,
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Speaker 1: it's the thing you have to be because the way
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Speaker 1: the game has changed. And if you watch the Ravens,
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Speaker 1: it's really hard. If you watch four or five Ravens plays,
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Speaker 1: which is where Joe Collin came from, it's hard to
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Speaker 1: know what they're in before the snap because they're moving
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Speaker 1: around so much. So once the season starts, I don't
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Speaker 1: think this question will matter that much. Jack's Drivetime airs
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Speaker 1: Tuesday mornings at ten o'clock on Jaguars dot Com and
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Speaker 1: the Jags social media channels. Onto the Huddle Up Podcast Wednesday,
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Speaker 1: NFL media analyst Bucky Brooks, John Ozan and I took
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Speaker 1: a look at Trevor Lawrence off the field and how
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Speaker 1: he's already digging into the new Jaguars playbook. Something has
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Speaker 1: to happen at some point where we figure out that
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Speaker 1: the kid's not perfect. I mean far, it's unbelievable how
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Speaker 1: picture perfect this guy is. But mean, he's a good
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Speaker 1: he's a good kid, like um and talking to his
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Speaker 1: parents and all the other stuff. He like, look, he
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Speaker 1: he just always has kind of been on the line.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that there won't be anything that comes
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Speaker 1: up or you'll handle every situation correctly, but his maturity,
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Speaker 1: I mean that that might be his best trade. Like
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Speaker 1: how mature he is in handling all of the other
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Speaker 1: stuff and not really being caught up in the life.
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Speaker 1: And I think, I mean, you know it. You in
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Speaker 1: Indianapolis around Peyton, and he talked about how he always
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Speaker 1: aspired to be like Peyton Manning man some some some
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Speaker 1: guys get it, you know, and I think he got
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Speaker 1: it at a very early age. And I think if
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Speaker 1: you go back just from a philosophical standpoint when it
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Speaker 1: comes to franchise quarterbacks. We used to always think about,
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Speaker 1: is he presidential like Kenny? Carry himself like that? Like Kenny?
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Speaker 1: Can you see him in front of in front of
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Speaker 1: the mic with the regalness about him? And I think
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Speaker 1: with Trevor, the way that he handles it, the way
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Speaker 1: that he's well schooled, the way that he kind of
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Speaker 1: has it like he he has that, and I can't
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Speaker 1: confidently say that every other quarterback that would have been
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Speaker 1: in that position would appear to check off those boxes.
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Speaker 1: We continue our conversation here on the Huddle Up Podcast.
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence apparently is in the Jaguars playbook, according to
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Speaker 1: reports this week on NFL Network getting an early look
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Speaker 1: at the Jaguars scheme, and it's something we talked about
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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. You give pieces of the playbook
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Speaker 1: to some of these prospects to see how they can
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Speaker 1: split it back. But the reports that we saw, you know,
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Speaker 1: it sounds like a little more than that. Bucky from
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Speaker 1: the reports from Ian Rampaport with that's the beauty of
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Speaker 1: having the number one pick and knowing exactly who it is.
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Speaker 1: It's very similar to what the Cincinnati Bengals did a
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Speaker 1: year ago with Joe Burrow. He had all the stuff,
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Speaker 1: he was ready to go. There was no count quarterback
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Speaker 1: competition coming into camp. Uh. They basically build it around
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Speaker 1: what he could do, and I would anticipate the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: will would do the same. This will be a bit
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Speaker 1: of a cooperation to kind of figure out where Trevor is.
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Speaker 1: Coach Bebble, coach Schadenheimer, coach Meyer will get together and
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Speaker 1: they will try and put together an offense that works
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Speaker 1: for him. I still would say when I look at
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Speaker 1: the strength of the team as pre presently constructed offensive line,
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Speaker 1: running game, Trevor acting as the manager until he's ready
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Speaker 1: to do more, I think if we ask coach My
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Speaker 1: the perfect scenario, I think that would be the perfect
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Speaker 1: scenario that Trevor doesn't have to in the first eight
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Speaker 1: games of the year throw a thirty five to forty
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Speaker 1: times for the Jaguars to stand games if they could
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Speaker 1: control it with their old line, the running game played
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Speaker 1: good enough defense, I would say that he would probably
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Speaker 1: believe that that is the best formula for Trevor, and
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Speaker 1: I think that is probably the best progression for Trevor
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Speaker 1: from Wednesday's Huddle Up podcast Now, Jaguars GM Trent Balky
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Speaker 1: does have a track record back in San Francisco of
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Speaker 1: not being scared to deal draft picks to get into
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Speaker 1: a better spot in the draft, either up or down,
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Speaker 1: or to select a certain player. Bucky John and I discuss.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's been a long time ago since Trent
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Speaker 1: Balky had his first draft in San Francisco, and if
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Speaker 1: you remember, you know he took over late in that process.
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Speaker 1: In a month before the draft, there was some front
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Speaker 1: office shake up and then all of a sudden, he's
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Speaker 1: in charge of the draft a month later, and you
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Speaker 1: did some wheeling and dealing in that draft that affected
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Speaker 1: the next couple of years of the forty Niners draft situation.
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Speaker 1: How how much do you does does that matter now?
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Speaker 1: His history? You know, he may not have had a
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Speaker 1: lot of that in the last few years in San Francisco,
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Speaker 1: But that's that's ten eleven years ago. Traded back to
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Speaker 1: the third round. They got Navarro Bowman that year and
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Speaker 1: a fourth round pick, but then the next year they
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Speaker 1: moved up from forty five to thirty six, used that
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Speaker 1: additional fourth round pick to get Colin Kaepernick, and those
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Speaker 1: are big pieces of that Super Bowl run. Of course,
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Speaker 1: it's too far removed right to really look too far
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Speaker 1: into that. No, it speaks to how he treats the
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Speaker 1: draft when he feels conviction about a player or players
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Speaker 1: that if he feels like there's a player that can
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Speaker 1: be an impact player, he's willing to move up and
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Speaker 1: get him. I didn't even realize that they dragged. They
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Speaker 1: traded up to get arranged to get capped. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he he was a huge addition um and a huge
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Speaker 1: part of their run to the Super Bowl. Navarre Bowman
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Speaker 1: team with Patrick Willis State lockdown the middle of that
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Speaker 1: forty nine his defense for years. That's I mean, that
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Speaker 1: speaks to it. Now they're gonna be some swings and
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Speaker 1: misses because we go and you checked there there's some
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Speaker 1: guy us that we're taking that. She's like, ah, there's
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Speaker 1: a bit of a reach. But he also hit an
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Speaker 1: all the Smith. The Smith came into the league and
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Speaker 1: had a pretty pedestrian collegiate career, but I mean in
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Speaker 1: the first three years he's one of the like he
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Speaker 1: was trending towards all time great status. So Balky definitely
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Speaker 1: has an eye for talent. He knows exactly what he's
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Speaker 1: looking for it. The key will be can he and
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Speaker 1: coach Maya get on the same page when it comes
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Speaker 1: to who they're bringing in. I think everything I heard
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Speaker 1: about the Senior Bowl was that's what this guy likes
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Speaker 1: to do. Trent Baky likes to move around in the
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Speaker 1: draft and get in spots where he thinks there's value
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Speaker 1: in the draft. He likes to try to maximize picks
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Speaker 1: there and that he can do it. Like JP said,
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Speaker 1: but with an eye on the next year and of
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Speaker 1: her different things from people we had Tony Pauline on
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Speaker 1: who's a very good draft guy as well. So he
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Speaker 1: thinks that next year's draft deeper in the draft should
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Speaker 1: be better than this year's draft. Deep in the draft,
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Speaker 1: like you're going to see more good fifth six round
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Speaker 1: picks because of all the guys who went back to
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Speaker 1: school this year. Uh So, could Trent later in the
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Speaker 1: in the drafted if he doesn't like six round picks
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Speaker 1: this year? Could he try to trade for fifth and
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Speaker 1: six round picks next year? He talks about value and
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Speaker 1: that seems to be in line with somebody who likes
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Speaker 1: to try to find a lot of value in the draft.
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Speaker 1: So I think I think watching him in this year's
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Speaker 1: draft is gonna be fascinating to learn how he likes
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Speaker 1: to operate. Yeah, it will be interesting to see how
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Speaker 1: Balky approaches all of it the draft. The look at
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Speaker 1: him because it's an uneven playing field. So how can
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Speaker 1: I judge who's normally going to pop their their final
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Speaker 1: season and cowb when you don't have those things? And
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Speaker 1: so how much do you know about the two class
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Speaker 1: that comes into play when you're making some decisions. One
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Speaker 1: it's a different landscape, man, it's more Vold or more
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Speaker 1: wild Wild West like than I ever can imagine, ever
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Speaker 1: can remember. The Huddle Up podcast runs Wednesday mornings on
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Speaker 1: the Official Jaguars podcast Network. Now, in that clip, you
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Speaker 1: heard John Osier reference his conversation with Tony Pauline, a
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Speaker 1: long time draft analyst now with Pro Football Network dot Com.
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Speaker 1: That conversation ran during the ozone podcast Thursday morning. Is
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Speaker 1: this a good year to have? Does the first round
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Speaker 1: go that deep? What are your thoughts? I have twenty
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Speaker 1: five players with lock solid first round grade, so that
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Speaker 1: is the demarcation line, if you will. Twenty six is
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Speaker 1: a guy who is maybe a first maybe a second
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Speaker 1: round selection. I think if you're the Jaguars, the question
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Speaker 1: is are there any good offensive lineman there? There's gonna
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Speaker 1: be no tight ends there. There's a guy like Kevin Jenkins.
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Speaker 1: Ball to the Jaguars at that spot or do the
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Speaker 1: Jets or the Steelers snag them a few picks before
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Speaker 1: this Olive Vira Tucker offensive lineman, ball to that ball
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Speaker 1: that spot or do one of those teams select them?
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Speaker 1: You know, Celebt Foley's there. Do you take a chance
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Speaker 1: on him? Uh? And I think Celebt Foley will be there.
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Speaker 1: I think that's really where the line is. Where you've
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Speaker 1: got the solid first round, there's end and that it
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Speaker 1: kind of falls off after that. It's just a matter
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Speaker 1: of what position they're looking at and who's available. I
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Speaker 1: saw in your notes this weekend it was interesting you
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Speaker 1: mentioned three guys you think could slip Etienne, Tony, and
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Speaker 1: bar More. Those are all guys that a lot of
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Speaker 1: Jaguars fans sort of have an eye on good players.
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Speaker 1: Is that a situation where the Jaguars could get the
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Speaker 1: one of those guys at number thirty three overall? You
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Speaker 1: think one of those guys slips a t N fifty fifty.
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Speaker 1: I do think bar More will be there at the
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Speaker 1: top of round two. I mean, he's good, but he
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Speaker 1: has a very undeveloped game. He's more of a one
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Speaker 1: gap penetrating defensive tackle. Uh. And the fact is, you know,
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Speaker 1: with the Jaguars, they've used a lot of draft capital
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Speaker 1: up front on that defensive line. At what point in
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Speaker 1: time do you say, listen, let's let's stop the bleeding
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Speaker 1: and let's just run with what we have. I do
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Speaker 1: think Tony will be there. He's uh, and I think
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Speaker 1: that would be a good fit. I mean, I'm sure,
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence would love throwing the ball. He's a consistent receiver.
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Speaker 1: His game really improved last year. He's not a home
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Speaker 1: run hitter. He's a solid vertical receiver with good speed,
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Speaker 1: but he doesn't have that second first sort of a
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Speaker 1: boler thin guy. May have to line him up in
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Speaker 1: the slot, may have to line him up back off
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Speaker 1: a lot of scrimmage. I think he's good. I don't
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Speaker 1: think he's the first as lacks all first round pick,
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Speaker 1: as a lot of people have been projecting. It sounds
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Speaker 1: like because of the guys going back to college that
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Speaker 1: you think the draft is gonna be a lot better
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Speaker 1: than one. Am I reading that right. I don't know
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Speaker 1: how it's gonna be better at the top, because this
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Speaker 1: year is very good at the top. But I think
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Speaker 1: what's going to happen is you're gonna have a lot
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Speaker 1: of guys third, four, fifth, six, seventh round. You're gonna
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Speaker 1: have plenty of talent. I mean you could literally have
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Speaker 1: a situation next year where, despite the fact there's two
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five guys selecting the draft, you could
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Speaker 1: have three hundred to three hundred fifty guys with draft
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Speaker 1: The bullgrades what does that mean. That means that, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's very reasonable to think that someone that has a
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Speaker 1: third round grade could actually fall into the fifth round
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Speaker 1: because of the fact that they were gonna be so
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Speaker 1: many players in that area that have third fourth round grades.
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Speaker 1: People are players are gonna fall. And I think what's
18:14
Speaker 1: gonna happen is when you see trades on Day three
18:18
Speaker 1: this year, it's gonna be trades where the team trading
18:21
Speaker 1: away to pick are getting selections in the two thousand
18:24
Speaker 1: twenty two drafts because there's gonna be so much more
18:27
Speaker 1: talent on the last day of the draft, and you know,
18:30
Speaker 1: people just concentrate and the narrative is always talking about
18:33
Speaker 1: the first round and the top ten picks, and the
18:36
Speaker 1: first round has a very bad misrate, I mean very
18:40
Speaker 1: bad fail rate. You know, a lot of good players
18:42
Speaker 1: come out of the middle rounds, the later they round.
18:45
Speaker 1: You look at look at Jacksonville what they did with
18:46
Speaker 1: James Robinson, an undrafted free agent. So I think you're
18:50
Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of real good talent in two
18:53
Speaker 1: thousand twenty two in the middle and late round. There's
18:56
Speaker 1: always check out the full ozone podcast on the Official
18:59
Speaker 1: Jaguars Podcast Network. We'll wrap this week with Jaguars Happy
19:03
Speaker 1: Hour Radio. Thursday, Jeff Lockman and I got into the
19:06
Speaker 1: off season program schedule announcement from the league and the
19:09
Speaker 1: reaction by the NFL Players Association. Now, remember Loghman is
19:13
Speaker 1: a former NFL p A vice president and was the
19:16
Speaker 1: player rep for the Jaguars in the earliest days of
19:19
Speaker 1: the organization, and he had his noted battles with Tom
19:23
Speaker 1: Coughlin back in those days. This week, the NFL p
19:26
Speaker 1: A started releasing statements on behalf of players on certain
19:30
Speaker 1: teams saying they would not be attending voluntary practices in
19:33
Speaker 1: the off season considering the pandemic health and safety protocols
19:38
Speaker 1: and the success of last season without and in person
19:41
Speaker 1: off season program. That whole situation got Loghman going on
19:45
Speaker 1: a Thursday afternoon, and I think, what's gonna happen and
19:48
Speaker 1: will happen without question, because there's different teams that have
19:52
Speaker 1: different bonus structures for all season workouts, this team being
19:56
Speaker 1: one of them. There's other teams in the league that are,
19:59
Speaker 1: for sample, green Bay and Buffalo have high off season
20:03
Speaker 1: incentives and the reason why they have a hard time
20:06
Speaker 1: attracting the players to live in Green Bay and to
20:10
Speaker 1: live in Buffalo. That's a fact that's been that way
20:13
Speaker 1: for years, and so there are significant incentives to get
20:17
Speaker 1: the players to live in that market in the off season.
20:20
Speaker 1: The players are not gonna bypass six six figures. And
20:25
Speaker 1: I don't care if somebody's making millions. The reality is,
20:29
Speaker 1: if you're making six figures, is an off season workout bonus,
20:32
Speaker 1: You're not gonna We're gonna say no, I'm not gonna
20:35
Speaker 1: do that just because the union put out a statement
20:38
Speaker 1: that says, you know, we want all of our players
20:40
Speaker 1: to to not report for anything voluntary. And if I'm
20:43
Speaker 1: the player and I've got a bonus, I'm saying, the
20:44
Speaker 1: hell is the union? I mean, what are you What
20:46
Speaker 1: are you talking about here? Here's the other reality. If
20:50
Speaker 1: you're vaccinated and you're in an environment that's controlled, which
20:57
Speaker 1: the league is gonna do, it's best way better, Okay,
21:00
Speaker 1: then Joe's Jim around the corner that a player could
21:05
Speaker 1: work out on his own. It makes zero sense for
21:09
Speaker 1: the union to put out that information. And I have
21:13
Speaker 1: a problem with that. And I've been a union guy.
21:16
Speaker 1: I was a vice president of the union. I was
21:18
Speaker 1: a player rep for eight years, a vice president for
21:20
Speaker 1: two years, and I have I have no understanding as
21:24
Speaker 1: to why the union would do this. I think J. C.
21:27
Speaker 1: Treader stepped on his tongue and this one, in my opinion,
21:32
Speaker 1: there are six teams now. The Bears are the latest
21:34
Speaker 1: today to put out a statement of some sort. Now,
21:37
Speaker 1: the interesting part of some of these the first couple
21:39
Speaker 1: of statements were like, nobody's going and then I think
21:42
Speaker 1: they realized, oh, wait a minute, some guys really have
21:44
Speaker 1: to go to get these bonus checks. Well, you know,
21:47
Speaker 1: we're looking at it here. You mentioned there's some teams
21:49
Speaker 1: with different offseason structures, right for the bonuses and all that,
21:52
Speaker 1: the workout bonuses, and the Jaguars, Uh, this is off
21:56
Speaker 1: pro football talk, but it's from over the cap dot
21:59
Speaker 1: com um as well. Well. The Bills have twenty eight
22:03
Speaker 1: players with workout bonuses just over three million dollars total.
22:06
Speaker 1: Packers have nineteen. Those are the two you mentioned. The
22:08
Speaker 1: Jaguars are next right there with twenty four players at
22:12
Speaker 1: three point seven million dollars, which has always been the
22:15
Speaker 1: way that the Jaguars have wanted to be and it
22:18
Speaker 1: started going back in the days of Tom Cofflin. Tom
22:21
Speaker 1: Coffin wanted his players here in this market, and then
22:24
Speaker 1: it continued on throughout and then obviously a lot of
22:28
Speaker 1: the incentives that we're seeing aren't recently negotiated by urban Meyer.
22:32
Speaker 1: These are what was already in place from the Tom
22:35
Speaker 1: Coughlin Dave calledwell Doug Moro own regime. But I just
22:38
Speaker 1: I just don't understand why would you put a statement
22:41
Speaker 1: out that your membership will not back up? Because and
22:46
Speaker 1: and because when I when I say that that it
22:48
Speaker 1: makes sense to to be in in the place where
22:51
Speaker 1: you can train and to be safe, do I would
22:54
Speaker 1: I rather come to t I a bank field and
22:58
Speaker 1: work with trainers, strength coaches, and coaches that have all
23:03
Speaker 1: been vaccinated, that have a regular cleaning policy, that have
23:08
Speaker 1: a unbelievable staff on hand to make sure that this
23:13
Speaker 1: place is cleaned from top to bottom every day. Rehab
23:18
Speaker 1: an injury at a place that I know is clean
23:22
Speaker 1: top to bottom, that has people that have been vaccinated
23:25
Speaker 1: because they're in Tier one or Tier two, Versus trying
23:30
Speaker 1: to do all that on your own somehow somewhere with
23:34
Speaker 1: all those safety protocols that that can't be in place,
23:38
Speaker 1: that won't be in place. I just I just don't
23:42
Speaker 1: understand the mindset. And I understand it's voluntary. All you
23:48
Speaker 1: had to do was put out a statement. Is that
23:50
Speaker 1: is saying we have believed in the voluntary portion of
23:55
Speaker 1: the all season and we continue to believe in that.
23:58
Speaker 1: We want players to make the best decision and their
24:01
Speaker 1: interests as individuals. We as a union support our membership
24:06
Speaker 1: whatever decision that they make. You don't come out and
24:09
Speaker 1: make a blanket statement that says that they shouldn't go.
24:12
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous because you know what as a as a
24:15
Speaker 1: as a union member, there's guys that want to go.
24:19
Speaker 1: There's guys that want to come in and work out
24:20
Speaker 1: with their with their teammates, that want to work with
24:24
Speaker 1: their new coach, that want to learn that to get
24:27
Speaker 1: a new system, time on the field, to get better
24:29
Speaker 1: you know, technique, all that stuff. And I don't know
24:31
Speaker 1: if can I say the A S I N I
24:35
Speaker 1: N E word. It's an assinine statement by the union.
24:39
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you say that, I just wanted to make sure
24:41
Speaker 1: I don't want to get the FCC coming in fire
24:44
Speaker 1: and many just because of something anyway that that just
24:49
Speaker 1: you know, I felt I textieds earlier today and I
24:51
Speaker 1: felt pretty strongly about like it makes it makes no sense,
24:55
Speaker 1: it makes no sense. And here and here's the bad part.
24:58
Speaker 1: It's gonna make the union look bad. Really, it's gonna
25:02
Speaker 1: make the union look bad because where the where the
25:07
Speaker 1: unions has had, Detroit, Buffalo or whoever, they put out
25:12
Speaker 1: these things that said, Okay, we have agreed that we're
25:14
Speaker 1: not gonna go, and then all of a sudden, guys
25:16
Speaker 1: start to go because they start realizing that that's probably
25:21
Speaker 1: their safest alternative to preparing for a season, is to
25:23
Speaker 1: be able to do it in their market where they're
25:25
Speaker 1: gonna be playing football and working for their employer. How's
25:28
Speaker 1: that gonna make the union look It's gonna make them
25:31
Speaker 1: look like a bunch of buffoons that don't know what
25:32
Speaker 1: they're doing. Now, last year, the union was marvelous, tremendous,
25:37
Speaker 1: a big part of why the season went off and
25:41
Speaker 1: in this entirety, but this year, big mistake. Jaguars Happy
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25:54
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25:58
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