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Football at Four: Some Younger Eagles Who Could Make an Impact · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Two preseason games down, one joint practice, and now a
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Speaker 1: final preseason. Let's take a look at Andrew's overview of
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Speaker 1: what we've seen as training camp has come to a
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Speaker 1: close for 2026. Andrew, what's up, my man?
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Speaker 2: Hey, Mike, doing well.
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Speaker 1: Good to be with you. Yeah, man, it's been a
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Speaker 1: little while. Missed you the last couple of weeks, but
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Speaker 1: that means we're getting closer to the season and a
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Speaker 1: lot of stuff happening. Obviously, camp comes to a close here.
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Speaker 1: Tomorrow night will be the last preseason tilt. Give me
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Speaker 1: a couple of guys, as a lot of people always say, hey,
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Speaker 1: I want to hear the guys Andrew's looking at. Who
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Speaker 1: are some guys you're keeping an eye on for tomorrow
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Speaker 1: that this game might be important for?
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Speaker 2: Offensive lineman Jake Majors, he's cross-trained at center and guard. Well,
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Speaker 2: he's a center by trade out of the University of Texas.
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Speaker 2: He was on the Eagles practice squad all last season.
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Speaker 2: I think he's really made some strides, Mike, in training camp.
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Speaker 2: Tough player, set a Texas record with 56 starts, and
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Speaker 2: that says a lot. But I think he's done a
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Speaker 2: nice job at guard as well. Now, the reason why
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Speaker 2: you need to keep an eye on him is because
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Speaker 2: there's some questions as to how that number 10th that
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Speaker 2: number 10 offensive line spot might shake out. You have
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Speaker 2: Michael Morris, the draft pick. You have Jake Majors. You
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Speaker 2: have John Ajuku, who's done some good things in training
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Speaker 2: camp as well. But I think that Majors has done
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Speaker 2: a nice job over the last two weeks, and we'll
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Speaker 2: see what he's able to do in the finale. I
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Speaker 2: would also say on the defensive side, Kapina Gushikin is
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Speaker 2: an undrafted free agent. Everyone talks about Maximus Pulley, but
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Speaker 2: in my view, I think Gushikin, having watched him for
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Speaker 2: 17 practices now, has been the more impressive player. Now, both,
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Speaker 2: to be clear, are not, I don't want to say
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Speaker 2: long shots, but it's unlikely, given the way that the
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Speaker 2: roster is shaping up. But I think Gushikin, because he
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Speaker 2: can play nickelback and safety, and he's been working in
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Speaker 2: a little bit more over the last week or so.
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Speaker 2: He's an interesting player, if for no other reason than
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Speaker 2: maybe a practice squad slot and maybe elevate him at
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Speaker 2: some point on game day. And then I'm going to
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Speaker 2: look at Cameron Latu, the tight end fullback. I've been
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Speaker 2: on Cameron Latu since last summer when Jihad Campbell was
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Speaker 2: just a heat-seeking missile coming downhill. All the tight ends
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Speaker 2: struggled to contain him, Mike, but not Cameron Latu. There
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Speaker 2: was a couple of plays in one practice where he
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Speaker 2: stonewalled him. I wrote down number 87 in my notes,
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Speaker 2: and I kept an eye on him throughout the rest
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Speaker 2: of the preseason, made some plays on special teams. I
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Speaker 2: think he is just a tenacious player, a really physical blocker,
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Speaker 2: and to this day I'm puzzled how the Eagles didn't
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Speaker 2: use him more last season, but I think he's an
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Speaker 2: interesting player as they start to whittle the roster down
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Speaker 2: to 53.
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Speaker 1: Andrew, what does that mean for Eli Stowers? We have
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Speaker 1: not been hearing very good things about him so far.
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Speaker 1: Do you have the same takeaways from his camp, the
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Speaker 1: second-round pick? Do you see very little impact so far
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Speaker 1: and moving into the season?
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Speaker 2: Well, it's been underwhelming, to be clear, but I also
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Speaker 2: like to reemphasize that progress is not linear. Everybody progresses
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Speaker 2: at different rates. Now, when the Eagles drafted Eli Stowers,
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Speaker 2: it should have been widely expected that he was a
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Speaker 2: developmental prospect, and sometimes those things take time. And I
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Speaker 2: think Sean Mannion, the Eagles offensive coordinator, outlined it well.
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Speaker 2: Everyone thinks that you can just bug and play, and
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Speaker 2: there's not going to be growing pains, but he has
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Speaker 2: a lot of possibilities. be a tight end at this level.
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Speaker 2: You have the blocking component, the receiving component, the alignment,
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Speaker 2: and all these different things that he's being asked to
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Speaker 2: do that is going to be foreign to him relative
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Speaker 2: to what he's accustomed to at Vanderbilt. So it's going
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Speaker 2: to take some time. Now, that's not to say that
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Speaker 2: the tight end position isn't a big question mark because
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Speaker 2: I do have quite a few questions. But in terms
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Speaker 2: of Eli Stowers, just relax a little bit. That would
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Speaker 2: be my cautionary message out there because it seems like
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of angst about him. And I think
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Speaker 2: young players deserve an opportunity to grow and develop and
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Speaker 2: the Eagles prioritize player development. And this is going to
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Speaker 2: be a tall task here for Ryan Mahaffey, the new
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Speaker 2: tight ends coach, because Jason Michael has had an extensive
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Speaker 2: track record of doing so. And they're going to have to,
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Speaker 2: they deserve the benefit of the doubt.
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Speaker 1: Andrew, our poll question today has to do with the
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Speaker 1: receivers outside of Devante Smith, which guy do you think
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Speaker 1: will have the biggest impact of the other group of receivers?
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Speaker 2: Don Fabian Wicks. I really like what I've seen from
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Speaker 2: him in training camp from the beginning of camp to
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Speaker 2: the end. You could see the rapport between Wicks and
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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts really budding throughout the summer. Now, he's not
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Speaker 2: someone that's going to take the top off of the defense.
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Speaker 2: He's really effective in the short to intermediate levels of
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Speaker 2: the field, a really good separator at the top of
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Speaker 2: his routes. And I haven't seen him drop many passes,
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Speaker 2: if any, in training camp to my recollection. which is
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Speaker 2: something that has been sort of a mark on him.
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Speaker 2: He has struggled with drops in his career, but I
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Speaker 2: think he's really establishing that trust with Hurts, and he's
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Speaker 2: going to be someone who I think will see a
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Speaker 2: decent amount of volume. He's a big question mark, understandably,
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Speaker 2: because he's never exceeded more than 39 receptions in a season,
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Speaker 2: never had more than 74 or 75 targets in a
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Speaker 2: given year. But from what I've seen this season, this
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Speaker 2: training camp, I think he's going to be someone that
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Speaker 2: can be dependent upon, and he's going to be an
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Speaker 2: effective chain mover for them.
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Speaker 1: You've seen Lemon for a couple days now. I know
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Speaker 1: he missed a lot of time. Are you hopeful that
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Speaker 1: he can have some sort of impact in this offense?
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Speaker 2: Well, it's been pretty clear, going back to the public practice, Mike,
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Speaker 2: that the Eagles are going to find a way to
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Speaker 2: get the ball into the hands of Makai Lemon, whether
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Speaker 2: that's manufactured touches or intermediate throws that really accentuate what
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Speaker 2: he can do as a route runner. And I would
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Speaker 2: also temper expectations because there's going to be growing pains here.
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Speaker 2: He missed a lot of time this summer. That shouldn't
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Speaker 2: generate any angst. He's back on the practice field. He
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Speaker 2: was working after practice on the final training camp day
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Speaker 2: with Sean Mannion. So he's really taken, you know, he
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Speaker 2: mentioned the other day about being more professional. And there's
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Speaker 2: a lot of ways you can interpret that. I have
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Speaker 2: to think that it has a lot to do with
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Speaker 2: just how to approach an injury, the recovery process and
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Speaker 2: things like that. But he is someone that I think
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Speaker 2: don't have to necessarily squint to see him being able
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Speaker 2: to make an early impact. And I would just temper
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Speaker 2: expectation because there are players who are further ahead of
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Speaker 2: him in terms of knowledge of this offense. But he's
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Speaker 2: a first-round pick. They're going to find a way to get.
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Speaker 2: And another area to keep an eye on would be
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Speaker 2: Makai Lemon potentially as a punt returner. He's worked there
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Speaker 2: when he has been on the practice field. He was
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Speaker 2: one of the four players repping their final day of
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Speaker 2: practice along with Britton Covey, Cooper DeGene, and I believe
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Speaker 2: Quez Watkins. So of those players, I mean, Cooper DeGene's
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Speaker 2: not going to do it. Quez Watkins and Britton Covey
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Speaker 2: in all likelihood aren't going to be on the roster.
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Speaker 2: And so I think LaKai Lemon has a good bet
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Speaker 2: to at least see that. And I would like to
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Speaker 2: see him get a couple reps if he does, in fact,
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Speaker 2: play on Friday.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously a lot of expectations for Lemon, and
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Speaker 1: they've got Hollywood Brown here. What about Darius Cooper? Is
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Speaker 1: he a guy, too, that could, you know? I ask
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Speaker 1: the question because I'm looking at the Green Bay offense
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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and they've just had like
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Speaker 1: four or five guys One guy has 700 yards. Another
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Speaker 1: guy has 600. I would imagine Devontae Smith is probably
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Speaker 1: the main guy, but is there enough in this offense
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Speaker 1: for three, four wide receivers? That typically has not been
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Speaker 1: the case here.
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Speaker 2: Right, and it's important to remember that they're going to,
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Speaker 2: in all likelihood, spread the football around in this West
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Speaker 2: Coast offense, and it is a true West Coast offense.
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Speaker 2: But it's going to run through Devontae Smith, Dallas Goddard,
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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley, I believe, is going to have a larger
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Speaker 2: role in the passing game. You have Dontavion Wick, and
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Speaker 2: you have Mekhi Lemon. I always like to temper expectations
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Speaker 2: there with Darius Cooper. What we saw this summer is real.
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Speaker 2: He's a big-time... contributor in training camps, and he was
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Speaker 2: involved in the offense. But you also have to keep
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Speaker 2: in mind the offense that they're in, they're not a
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Speaker 2: pass-centric team. They are a low-volume passing attack, and it's
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Speaker 2: going to be all about the running game, Saquon Barkley
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Speaker 2: and the Eagles' offensive line, and the passing game, which
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Speaker 2: I mentioned, it's going to funnel through them first and foremost.
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Speaker 1: All right, Andrew, check our football for tomorrow night. The
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Speaker 1: Eagles take on the Bengals in the last preseason tilt there.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned some things. on the offensive side. Obviously, the
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Speaker 1: defense could be very, very good this year. I want
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Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on the last couple years. I
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Speaker 1: thought the question to Fangio yesterday when asked about Jalix Huntley,
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Speaker 1: how good could he be? Is this what you expected?
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Speaker 1: My question is more, are we ready to see Jalix
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Speaker 1: Hunt be the guy on this defense in terms of
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Speaker 1: pass rush?
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Speaker 2: You know, I think he's close. I think he just
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Speaker 2: might be there, Mike. What I've seen from Jay Luxon
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Speaker 2: is a player who went from 241 snaps as a rookie,
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Speaker 2: 693 last season where he led all Eagles pass rushers,
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Speaker 2: and snaps, sacks with six and a half, led the
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Speaker 2: team in interceptions and led the edge rushers in quarterback hits,
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Speaker 2: which I believe was 24. So every year he's taken, well,
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Speaker 2: the first two years, he's taken a big step forward
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Speaker 2: from year one to year two, and this summer there
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Speaker 2: hasn't been a day that's gone by where i haven't
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Speaker 2: written down number 58 and number 97 in my notes.
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Speaker 2: He has been an absolute force off the edge, but
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Speaker 2: he's also an effective two-way player now. He's filled out
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Speaker 2: his frame. And I say this a lot, but a
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Speaker 2: lot was made about his athleticism, and it was widely
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Speaker 2: expected that he was going to be a work in
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Speaker 2: progress and take a little bit of time to develop.
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Speaker 2: But I think the technical aspect of the game has
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Speaker 2: now caught up to the athleticism, and he's able to
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Speaker 2: play freely. He has a better idea of how to
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Speaker 2: combat tackles and counter moves and has a much deeper
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Speaker 2: arsenal of pass rush moves from which to choose from.
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Speaker 2: So I think he is ready to take that next
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Speaker 2: step this year. That's something that I actually asked Vic
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Speaker 2: Fangio about in the spring, and he pretty much said
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Speaker 2: he gave a great answer, but he pretty much said
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Speaker 2: he just needs to keep doing what he's doing. So
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Speaker 2: I think the sky's the limit for him, and I
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Speaker 2: think the Eagles are well-equipped to handle the the absence,
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Speaker 2: should there be an absence, of Jonathan Grenard from, you know,
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Speaker 2: in week one or whatever the case is with J.
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Speaker 2: Luke Hunt, but also Nolan Smith has quietly had a
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Speaker 2: nice training camp as well. He's healthy. He's extremely violent
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Speaker 2: and physical off the edge, and I think he's gotten
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Speaker 2: a lot of pressures, and he's also filled out his
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Speaker 2: frame a little bit more as well.
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Speaker 1: All right. You wrote about Ty Robinson over at InsideTheBirds.com,
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Speaker 1: and yesterday Vic Fangio was asked about him on a
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Speaker 1: couple different questions regarding him. This guy was a fourth-round pick,
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Speaker 1: and I think he's way down the depth chart here.
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Speaker 1: But one of the things that Fangio said, like, well,
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Speaker 1: you've got to do it against better players. You don't
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Speaker 1: get that opportunity. So no matter what Robinson does tomorrow night,
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Speaker 1: do you see him having any role on this team?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you've got to earn those opportunities, right? Byron
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Speaker 2: Young has earned those opportunities. So, for example, whenever– Whether
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Speaker 2: it's Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Mauro Ojemo, whatever they needed
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Speaker 2: a spell, Byron Young was the first guy up there
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Speaker 2: because he's proven it. It's hard to do it when
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Speaker 2: you don't get those opportunities, but you have to earn those.
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Speaker 2: What I will tell you about Ty Robinson is that
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Speaker 2: it seems around the midway point of training camp, he
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Speaker 2: got off to a slow start. I don't know if
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Speaker 2: it had any coincidence, but right around the time where
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Speaker 2: he got into a little dust-up with Tyler Steen, it
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Speaker 2: almost awakened a sort of confidence in him where he
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Speaker 2: was approaching things differently. He talked about Clint Hurt and
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Speaker 2: then the exit meetings, emphasizing to him to really refine
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Speaker 2: and grow in terms of mobility and flexibility to eliminate
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Speaker 2: some stiffness and not being lopsided. And that's something that
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Speaker 2: I think has really been reflected in his reps. When
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Speaker 2: you're watching him play now, you're seeing someone who has
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Speaker 2: a little bit more wiggle to him and isn't as
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Speaker 2: stiff of an athlete. The strength has never been a question.
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Speaker 2: It's about the other elements of that game that you
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Speaker 2: need to be an effective player. And for right now,
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Speaker 2: he's done all the right things. It's going to be
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Speaker 2: on him to make sure that he stays on schedule.
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Speaker 2: And if he's able to do that and earn the
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Speaker 2: trust of Vic Fangio, and that sort of stems from consistency,
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Speaker 2: then he will be able to carve out a few
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Speaker 2: more snaps than he did last season.
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Speaker 1: Epson Michael Carter, and he said, it's close, it's close.
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Speaker 1: Michael's been doing a good job back there. What is
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Speaker 1: the battle that those two guys right now are, you know,
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Speaker 1: where do you see Epson Carter?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's interesting about Vic Fangio and playing safety in
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Speaker 2: his defense is that I don't know that you need
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Speaker 2: to be a superstar. You need to be someone who
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Speaker 2: is fundamentally sound, highly intelligent, and there's not going to
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Speaker 2: be a high variance nature to your game. And that's
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Speaker 2: Marcus Epps. He's not going to make the big play,
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Speaker 2: but he's often going to be in the right position
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Speaker 2: to make those tackles, make those plays, smart football player.
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Speaker 2: But for all that, and that's great, I think Michael
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Speaker 2: Carter's had a better training camp. But I think that
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Speaker 2: what maybe works against Michael Carter here, through no fault
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Speaker 2: of his own, is that he wears three different hats.
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Speaker 2: He can play safety, he can play nickelback, of course,
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Speaker 2: and he's their dime defensive back as well. So I
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Speaker 2: think Vic Fangio, if you listen to his answer and
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Speaker 2: you're able to kind of sift through it, you can
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Speaker 2: tell that he's really enamored with his versatility, and that
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Speaker 2: may prove to be too valuable. But Carter had three
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Speaker 2: interceptions in training camp. He's rangier. He has really good
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Speaker 2: sure area quickness. He sees things quickly, and I like
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Speaker 2: his eye discipline. I was a big fan of the
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Speaker 2: player watching him with the New York Jets, and he
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Speaker 2: has a lot of his skills and tools there. from
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Speaker 2: Nickelback that have translated to the safety position, but he's
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Speaker 2: still new to it. And I think there is a
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Speaker 2: comfort level there with someone like Marcus Epps. So I
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Speaker 2: do believe that it will be Marcus Epps week one
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Speaker 2: at safety when the Eagles are in their nickel package.
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Speaker 1: And then you asked about Andre Sam yesterday. I think
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Speaker 1: that was you anyway. Is he in the mix at all?
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Speaker 2: You know, Andre's had a really good camp, and I
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Speaker 2: thought he had a really good two practices there in
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Speaker 2: New England. He was really physical. There's something to be
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Speaker 2: said for a player, and Nick Fangio does not throw
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Speaker 2: away practice reps. He's not going to put you out
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Speaker 2: there if he believes that you're going to mess things up.
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Speaker 2: Andre's seen a ton of reps, all with the second team,
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Speaker 2: very sporadically with the first team. And I think right
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Speaker 2: now he's 27 years old. It's hard for me to
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Speaker 2: envision the Eagles feeling the need to keep him, knowing
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Speaker 2: that they've waived him for two years now. He's made
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Speaker 2: it to the practice squad. He just seems to be
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Speaker 2: a very dependable practice player. who they can elevate on
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Speaker 2: game day. And I think they're really comfortable there. But
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Speaker 2: if you listen to what Vic Rangier said, he called
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Speaker 2: him reliable and trustworthy, which that was my read throughout
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Speaker 2: the summer and really last year. But I don't know
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Speaker 2: that it's hard for me to envision them keeping Andre
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Speaker 2: Sam or even Gushiken or Maximus Pulley, just given the
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Speaker 2: way the roster is structured right now.
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Speaker 1: All right. He was asked about the defensive backs yesterday,
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Speaker 1: the cornerback depth right now. And he, You know, he said,
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Speaker 1: I feel good about Quinan and Rick. And, of course,
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Speaker 1: Jones has been hurt. I think he's back there now.
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Speaker 2: You said Rick?
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Speaker 1: Rick Wolin, yep. So Q, Rick Wolin, Jonathan Jones, he mentioned,
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Speaker 1: but he said he missed a lot of time. Do
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Speaker 1: you think he feels comfortable with that room right now?
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Speaker 2: Well, it's hard to imagine that he does, but this
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Speaker 2: is the group that they're working with right now, Mike.
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Speaker 2: And you can argue that they have, and it would
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Speaker 2: be a compelling argument that the Eagles have the top
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Speaker 2: three cornerback group. I'm throwing Cooper DeGene in there as
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Speaker 2: the nickelback. But beyond that, there's a lot of questions.
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Jones, last practice on, I believe, August 8th. Now,
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Speaker 2: he is a veteran. He's going to be 33 in September.
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Speaker 2: That's 33 in NFL years. But is that someone you
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Speaker 2: can rely on to get through a full season, or
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Speaker 2: is that sort of a precursor of what might follow?
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Speaker 2: Mack McWilliams is someone that he's had some positive moments.
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Speaker 2: They haven't been consistent moments. He hasn't been able to
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Speaker 2: sustain that. There's been practices where he's showing signs of encouragement,
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Speaker 2: and then there's been some opportunities that I'm sure he'd
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Speaker 2: like to have back. But he is someone who can
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Speaker 2: play nickelback, and he can play outside. So you like
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Speaker 2: that there. He was a draft pick last year, so
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Speaker 2: that does count for something. And Keely Ringo is a
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Speaker 2: player that is a tremendous special teamer, but he's at
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Speaker 2: best a fifth corner. I don't think that Vic Fangio,
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Speaker 2: under any circumstances, would want to put him out there.
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Speaker 2: But I do get the sense that Vic likes him
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Speaker 2: a little bit. He's gone out of his way to
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Speaker 2: prop him up and commend him on some of the
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Speaker 2: things that he's done. There have been some positive moments
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Speaker 2: in camp. Not enough, but I think he's pretty safe,
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Speaker 2: especially when they released safety JT Gray, who is a
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Speaker 2: three-time All-Pro and one of the NFL's best gunners for
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Speaker 2: a number of years now. When you release someone like that, well,
17:27
Speaker 2: I think Ringo's your gunner and going to be your
17:29
Speaker 2: core special team.
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Speaker 1: All right, good stuff. Who's your backup quarterback?
17:35
Speaker 2: If I'm making the call with Andy Dalton, I think
17:38
Speaker 2: there's a lot of value of having someone who has
17:40
Speaker 2: experience in this system. He's entering his 16th season right now.
17:45
Speaker 2: He can be an effective sounding board for Jalen Hurts.
17:48
Speaker 2: And I don't know that there's been a big enough
17:51
Speaker 2: discrepancy between Andy Dalton and Tanner McKee this summer to
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Speaker 2: sway it one way or the other. I would default
17:57
Speaker 2: to the veteran and give you that stability there. I'm
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Speaker 2: also not as high on Tanner McKee as.
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Speaker 2: It seems like many are, but that's kind of where
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Speaker 2: I'm at with it.
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Speaker 1: All right, Andrew Chico. By the way, are you an
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Speaker 1: Alice Cooper guy at all?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Alice Cooper. I saw him open for
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Speaker 2: him and his band, which was outstanding, open for Motley
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Speaker 2: Crue in about 2015. When that was supposed to be
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Speaker 2: the final tour for Motley Crue, I have that poster.
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Speaker 2: They're still touring right now, Mike. Explain that to me.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, but Cooper's playing Halloween Night in
18:28
Speaker 1: Atlantic City. I don't know, Alice Cooper, Halloween Night. You
18:31
Speaker 1: could get a little kooky at that show, don't you think?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's something I might entertain if it works with
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Speaker 2: my schedule.
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Speaker 1: All right, we'll have to take a look. October 31st,
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Speaker 1: Halloween night, Alice Cooper. We might have to do that show.
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Speaker 1: I know we're trying to find. I've got to find
18:48
Speaker 1: something for us to go to here before it gets
18:51
Speaker 1: too late here. All right, man, we'll talk. Next time
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Speaker 1: we talk, we'll be getting ready for the Washington Commanders.
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Speaker 1: It'll be fun. Thanks, bud.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to hold you to that, Mike, and I
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Speaker 2: will talk to you next week.
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Speaker 1: Take care, man.