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MINI SCROLL: Alissa Violet responds to "mean girl" accusations + Sophia La Corte vs. Halley Kate situation · Mini Scroll

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  Hi everyone, welcome to Mini Scroll, the daily Internet
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  culture podcast bringing you the biggest stories from social
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  media, the creator economy, and the digital space every Monday
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  through Thursday. I'm your host, Lauren Meissner,
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  the founder of the youth digital media brand Centennial World.
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  Welcome back to Mini Scroll, everyone.
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  And if you're watching on YouTube, welcome to a different
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  background. I was thinking that this
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  lighting in this room might be a little bit better than in my
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  bedroom. There's not as much natural
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  lighting in this room because it's in the basement.
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  So I think it's possible that there might be more consistency,
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  although I'm not sure what the sound is going to be like.
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  We'll see. So I have two big stories for
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  you guys today. And before I get into them, I
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  did want to say, and this is not something that I've had like
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  feedback on or got any comments about or whatever, but I was
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  just thinking back to the Sedona live story that I reported on
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  yesterday. And I feel like I did not report
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  on it with the proper sensitivity that it deserved.
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  So I just wanted to acknowledge that I feel like doing a daily
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  podcast, sometimes I get a bit desensitized to what I'm
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  reporting on and I'm reporting on it from like a trend
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  perspective or like a viral perspective sometimes instead of
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  like a human perspective. And I don't know, just like
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  editing that segment and thinking back to it after it was
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  published, I was like, I could have done better there.
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  So I just wanted to acknowledge that.
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  OK, on to the stories for today. So I have two big stories for
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  you guys like I said, and the first one is we need to talk
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  about Alyssa Violet and her response video to Tana Mojo and
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  Brooke Schofield that was published yesterday.
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  OK so we know that recently Alyssa got in some drama with
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  Tana and Brooke because Alyssa was defending Jason Nash.
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  Basically Tana is like always making these tik toks like
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  dragging Jason Nash for begging for money on TikTok.
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  And Alyssa responded to one of them and basically called like
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  Tana and Brooke Mean Girls. And then Tana and Brooke
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  responded on the canceled podcast and Tana wrote like a
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  poem to Alyssa and it was so savage.
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  And I just want to clarify, I'm laughing because all of this is
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  so stupid. I feel like sometimes this is
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  just part of like my journey right now where I was like
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  feeling self-conscious about how I reported on that story
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  yesterday. But I was also reflecting on the
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  fact that like when I report on stories, like I will sometimes
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  smile or laugh or whatever. And it's not because I don't
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  take what's happening seriously. I mean, sometimes that is the
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  truth. But a lot of times, just like
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  what is happening online, unless there are some like really major
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  serious allegations, like a lot of it is just like petty.
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  And I think that's part of it is we just have to take everything
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  with like a grain of salt that, you know, I report on here, but
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  that like happens online. Some stuff is just stupid and
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  petty. Actually a lot of stuff it's
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  just stupid and petty. Anyways, OK, so they made this
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  like poem on canceled and they talked a lot of shit basically
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  about Alyssa. And then of course, when Brooks
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  Reese's tweets went everywhere over the last couple of weeks,
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  people were like, Oh my God, what a time to be Clinton Kane
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  and Alyssa Violet. So Alyssa has responded.
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  She made a video. She began the video by
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  mentioning the amount of hate that she has been receiving
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  before acknowledging that she has been reading and seeing it
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  all. Quote, I've received thousands
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  of comments, DMS, tik toks, tags, etcetera, pretty much
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  telling me how awful of a human being I am.
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  And believe me, I'm seeing it all and I have been.
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  She then said that how the situation unfolded was, quote,
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  completely my own doing, 100% my fault.
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  She then shared her own side of the story, explaining that she
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  had been watching Tana post videos criticizing creators for
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  weeks and felt like the cancelled podcast was simply a
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  platform for, quote, negative gossip.
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  She addressed an alleged incident involving Tana's
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  assistant, Paige and her friend Tessa Brooks.
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  So for those who are unfamiliar, Paige had introduced herself to
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  Tessa even though they had met before, and Tessa reportedly
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  took offense and swore at her. So in her video, Alyssa denies
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  that this ever happened, claiming that quote the whole
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  story was fabricated for views. She also stated that she got
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  confirmation from multiple creators including Brooke.
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  So As for why Alyssa chose to defend Jason Nash in that one
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  TikTok that like blew everything up, she explains that she felt
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  as if Tana was bullying him and that it didn't sit right with
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  her. She also claims her comments in
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  the original TikTok were misconstrued as shady when this
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  wasn't the case. She said.
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  I meant no shade with that. So after I posted that video, I
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  woke up and realized that I messed up tremendously.
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  I wasn't aware that this creator had a past with Tana.
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  And by this creator, she means Jason Nash because as we know,
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  there was like all these gross weird jokes that went on during
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  the Vlog squad days when Tricia was dating Tricia Paytas was
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  dating Jason Nash. And there would always be all
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  these like jokes about how like they should have a threesome
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  with Tana. And the Vlog Squad was always
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  just like filming with Tana and making inappropriate jokes.
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  And Jason was obviously the oldest of the Vlog Squad.
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  So people were just kind of like, this is not the hill to
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  die on. Alyssa when she did defend Jason
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  Nash. So while Alyssa went on to
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  apologize for not doing her research and jumping and the
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  gun, she did double down on her original intentions.
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  Alyssa also addressed Tanas claims that she sought advice
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  from her about starting an only fans.
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  She was basically like, not all of us can make $1,000,000.
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  I don't know, showing our butt on only fans or whatever.
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  Like some of us have to do different types of work and
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  people kind of took that as like slut shaming.
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  But then also Tana, I guess addressed that comment saying
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  that like, that's kind of ironic because Alyssa approached me
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  asking for advice on how to do only fans.
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  So in response, Alyssa shared screenshots of their
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  conversation, showing that it was actually Tana who encouraged
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  her to start an only fans, contradicting the narrative that
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  Alyssa had approached Tana for advice.
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  While attempting to handle the situation offline, Alyssa
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  mentioned that she had called Brooke, describing the call as
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  quite productive. And then she wanted to express
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  her disbelief when she quote completely 180 flip-flopped on
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  her next podcast episode. They proceed to bully me, write
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  a poem about me, share stories and come to the conclusion that
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  I'm the meanest girl in LA. She maintained that she never
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  had a problem with Tana even after quote.
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  You hooked up with my ex when you tried to continue hooking up
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  with my ex after we broke up or you married my other ex on
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  camera after I came out about my abuse.
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  This is really true. So I think, I think the first
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  act she's talking about is Faze Banks and the second one is
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  obviously Jake Paul. So that's how I was introduced
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  to Alyssa Violet was because she was dating Jake Paul.
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  And obviously we know Tana and Jake Paul had this like, quote
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  UN quote, like marriage, obviously fake, but like, you
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  know, a marriage, something, something happened on camera.
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  They had like a relationship and Alyssa did go public with what
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  she experienced with Jake Paul and it was really horrific.
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  As for the mean girl allegations, she claims that
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  Brooke and Tana are completely overlooking and underestimating
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  how much the Internet has changed since Alyssa wrote goes
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  to viral fame. She notes that 2016 through 2018
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  with the peak cloud chasing era of YouTube where she was
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  constantly being used by men, women and various business
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  people, all while being in an extremely toxic relationship.
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  Quote. I genuinely thought every single
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  person in the world was fake, phony and out to get me and that
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  they were going to take advantage of me once again.
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  So yes, I have historically been a bitch and that was on purpose.
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  I wanted to be so unapproachable and scary that nobody would ever
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  fuck me over again. Actually, do you believe this?
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  I think the men that Alyssa, I think she also dated Rice Gum.
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  OK, just Fact Check that she did not date Rice Gum, but she did
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  do a song with him. But yeah, I'm not surprised at
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  all that she would have felt this way.
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  I think the era of kind of YouTube that she's talking about
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  and like the crew that she was around, the people that she was
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  surrounded by were, I mean, just from an outsider's perspective
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  did seem incredibly toxic. I think there was a lot of like
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  toxic masculinity that she was around.
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  And yeah, I just totally get it. But she did clarify that she
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  doesn't want to push some sort of victim narrative, but claims
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  that this context is important nevertheless.
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  She did go on to apologize to Mari, who claimed that she was
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  dismissive and rude to him because he's quote not
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  important. I just think I automatically saw
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  you as Hannah's best friend. So you were guilty by
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  association. Because I associate Tana with
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  drama, deceitfulness, and lies. I'm sorry, That is just, like,
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  such a savage description. To conclude the video, she said
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  the whole situation reminded her of why she decided to take a few
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  years off from YouTube. Quote, I understand everybody
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  wants the tea on what's going on in celebrity culture,
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  specifically in Los Angeles. But when you have to make up a
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  story, fabricate an encounter, spread misinformation and
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  slander someone while presenting falsehoods as fact, it can be so
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  damaging and hurtful to someone's mental health, not to
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  mention their personal brands that they've worked so hard to
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  build. So just be real.
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  Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of what
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  she said is fair and I appreciate that she made a
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  pretty solid address. Like she addressed all points of
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  like her initial video, she made some apologies.
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  She shared why she felt the way she did.
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  I mean, I don't think anyone that has followed Alyssa even
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  peripherally like me, I don't think it would come as a
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  surprise that she feels this kind of way about that crew in
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  LA. Like she spoke out about Jake
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  Paul in such a public way. He was so famous.
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  I mean, he's still so famous, but like he was top of like
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  YouTube game at that time. And that would have been really
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  difficult to do. And she has taken a step back.
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  Like, it's pretty obvious that she is, like, not trying to be
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  in the public eye in the same way that she once was.
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  And I think it's obvious that LA has jaded her in one way or
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  another. And I think it would for a lot
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  of people, especially that group of people that she's explaining.
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  OK. And the last story that I have
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  for you guys is that Sophia Lacorte has dragged Hallie Kate
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  in a new story time about dating Hallie's boyfriend.
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  OK, so this is more niche. New York City Tik Toker News,
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  Everyone's in a while, we have a story like this and people are
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  like, who are these people? But you know, honestly, I'm
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  going to argue that these people are pretty relevant and I'm
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  going to keep reporting on them. But for anyone who is like, who
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  are these people? Hallie Kate is a 24 year old Tik
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  Toker based in New York City. She went viral a few times this
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  year actually. So first she got punched in the
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  face by a random man or like over the last year, not like in
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  2024 necessarily, but first she got punched in the face by a
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  random man on the street. And she made that video that
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  went absolutely viral where she was like crying right after it
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  happened while she was walking down the street.
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  And that shone a bunch of light on.
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  Oh my God. Now I'm like, so self-conscious.
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  Shawn shined when I said, what did I say?
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  Strike struck that highlighted an ongoing issue for women in
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  New York City who came forward and were like, this exact thing
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  has happened to me. So that video went viral and
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  then she also recently went viral when she bought a house in
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  like the Hamptons area and everyone was like losing their
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  minds that a really famous Tik toker who's 24 could afford to
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  buy a house in the Hamptons and also rent an apartment in New
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  York City. And I guess part of the context
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  there is like we do know how much her rent is We know that
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  her rent is around 7000 or was around $7000 a month because
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  which I will get into in a minute.
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  She went through this big breakup and she was talking
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  about stuff like while she was vlogging her breakup stuff and
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  someone sent her money for her rent and she showed like her
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  rent transaction. Everyone was like what the hell?
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  Sophia Lacorte is also a popular TikTok creator.
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  She has over 800,000 followers on the app and she is an
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  aspiring actress. So I guess Sophia and Hallie
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  aren't really friends but they definitely run in similar New
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  York City circles and have similar business acquaintances
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  and things like that. OK, so at the end of last year,
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  there was this weird like TikTok drama that went down between the
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  two of them that was basically started by fans.
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  And I think we did report on this in viral news.
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  So Hallie was dating this man named Reed for about a year and
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  he broke up with her in November out of the blue.
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  He was basically like, you're just not the one.
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  And she did not expect this at all.
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  She was really devastated. And so she started vlogging her
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  breakup. And this was also when she
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  started getting like even more traction.
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  She already had a lot of followers and some fame and
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  stuff, but this was like the big one for her.
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  And this was the time when she showed her rent.
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  Basically, after Reed broke up with Hallie, he was spotted by
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  followers on a date with Sophia. So a Reddit post on the R/NYC
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  Influencer Snark subreddit Read Quote.
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  The two were at Ludlow Hotel cuddled up on a couch enjoying
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  cocktails last night. I don't have a picture, but it
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  was them. Yes, Sophia and Hallie were at
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  the same influencer dinner on Thursday.
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  And This is why I was shocked to see the two together on what
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  appeared to be a date. The two as in Sophia and read.
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  Halle also offered some confirmation on the situation in
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  her TikTok comments. At the time she wrote no, this
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  is the tea. She was standing with me as I
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  texted my ex and went through my following and DMD him asking him
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  on a date. Gross on both of them.
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  She also describes Sophia as quote, the worst person I've
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  ever met in my life. Imagine standing next to me
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  while I'm texting my ex asking how he is doing and yamming him
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  the same night. That sent a wave of hate to
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  Sophia, obviously. And then Hallie eventually asked
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  her followers to stop sending hate to Sophia.
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  And she addressed the situation on her podcast, saying that she
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  didn't necessarily have a problem with them dating because
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  obviously they were all single. But her main issue was that
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  Sophia was allegedly with Hallie when she reached out to read and
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  that they were on a date in a very public space.
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  She said, quote, she definitely knew it was very possible for
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  them to get recognized. So that's just what upset me.
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  I feel there was intent to have it get back to me.
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  OK. So since then, that was in
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  December 2023, Hallie and Reed have actually gone back
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  together. And Hallie has announced that
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  they signed a lease together in New York City in September.
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  So this has now raised concerns for fans because basically, like
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  a lot of her followers feel like Reed doesn't really deserve her
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  or like, he still kind of doesn't seem like he likes her
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  very much. And I'm sure that that is
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  clouded by her breakup saga that she vlogged and what she told us
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  about how he broke up with her and why he broke up with her.
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  So I think I'm sure there's some clouded judgement there.
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  But regardless, people point to the fact that it seems like he
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  does not really like her very much.
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  And this was really heightened when she and her bestie, Jazz,
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  posted a podcast episode with their partners recently.
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  And Reed was just like really quiet.
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  He seemed really disengaged from her.
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  And the podcast caused so much backlash because of his behavior
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  that they actually ended up deleting the episode.
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  So now in the wake of this, Sophia has released this
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  three-part series where she talks about the experience of,
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  quote UN quote, being cancelled by Hallie for going on a date
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  with Reed while they were both single.
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  But yeah, Sophia's videos are definitely kind of shady.
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  They paint Hallie in this kind of like crazy ex-girlfriend
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  light, and they paint Reed and Sophia in this way where it's
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  like they have this crazy connection and he's just like
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  such a great guy. And you know, he liked Sophia so
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  much. He treated her so well.
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  It's really rare that you get a good first date.
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  I remember on the first date we were about to leave the bar so
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  we both went to the restroom and he turned around and grabbed me
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  and kissed me and I remember like I I had butterflies like
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  never before. He was super talkative, super
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  fun and so sweet and very masculine.
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  Everything about him was wonderful.
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  At the end of the day he put me in an Uber home and then I went
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  to bed and I was just smiling ear to ear.
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  I wake up in the morning and I'm so excited to look at my phone
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  because I know that this man is going to text me.
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  Like I know we both enjoyed the date, but instead I look at my
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  phone and I see a message from a random number.
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  The message said hi this is Haley I'm getting DMS that you
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  were on a date with my ex last night.
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  Loli don't want to be weird but is that true?
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  Just want to know so I can tell people to stop commenting that.
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  So finally the person I want to text me texts me and he comes
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  over and brings me coffee before I have to go film.
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  This man and I are just hanging out and chilling until I have to
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  go to work and his phone starts going crazy.
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  I see the name and it's her. I get in my Uber and I look at
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  my phone one more time and guess what?
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  She started posting about me. So Hallie has made her own
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  response and she posted on TikTok just like basically a
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  block of text as she was brushing her hair.
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  Just letting y'all know I'm a real person just trying my best
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  at life and I try to be as authentic about that as
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  possible. I get on this app every day to
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  make people smile. I used to come on and be so
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  excited to check my comments and now I dread opening my phone and
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  reading lies, rumors and hate. And I hate that because this app
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  has given me everything good in my life and I'm so grateful for
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  it and all of you. But I feel defeated sometimes,
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  if I'm being honest. I love all of you who support me
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  so much and I really try to just ignore the noise because there
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  are so many amazing people on here.
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  We just have to rise above. OK, so I think this is kind of
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  the stance that I took when all of this stuff happened in
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  December. Like they're 2324 when I was
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  that age, I was being a little shit too.
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  Like I was running around single dating tons of guys, having fun
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  partying. Like I can't really comment on
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  their behavior and like even how they're reacting to this drama
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  because I can't even imagine like thinking back to how I
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  acted at that age and like just the world is at your fingertips.
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  Like for me at least, I just left university.
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  You're finally making some like quote, UN quote, like real money
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  because you have your first full time job probably.
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  And you know, like it's just a different time.
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  If you're newly single, you're living out on your own.
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  It's like so exciting. You're not at like university
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  housing anymore and things like that.
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  So I can't even imagine how I would have been acting if I had
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  all this money, all this Internet fame, and like millions
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  of people looking in all my life and either validating me or
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  hating on me. You know, like, I can't even
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  imagine what that experience would have been like when I
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  think back to how I was already like, such a disaster at that
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  age regardless. So I'm not going to comment on
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  like, how they are reacting to the situation or behaving in the
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  situation. I did want to comment, though,
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  on Hallie's response because it kind of reminds me of what we
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  talked about with Chris Olson last week.
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  And I follow Hallie. I really like Hallie and that is
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  a controversial opinion, which is crazy because she, in my
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  opinion, I mean as far as I've seen, is very neutral.
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  I don't think she is controversial at all, but I
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  don't know if I have seen a creator who has done so little
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  that is like in the realm of actually being problematic get
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  so much constant hate online. I wouldn't say it's all hate.
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  I think a lot of it is like snark, but it is like every day.
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  Like she is posted about on snark reddits every single day.
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  Everything she posts, everything she does, there's like
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  screenshots of her lips or screenshots of her boobs.
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  Like people just like dissecting what she looks like, dissecting,
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  you know, what she's written in her captions, how she acts
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  online. It's so wild to me.
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  And I don't know if I'm just going to eat my words and some
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  of you guys are going to come out and be like, didn't you know
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  she did XYZ And that's why everyone hates her.
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  Maybe as far as I know, she is just like living her life.
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  And basically it's a very similar situation to Chris
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  Olson, which is she is considered annoying.
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  Like people find her annoying and therefore they hate on her.
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  And so yes, I do think that Sophia released this video
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  series at interesting timing. I think it was strategic because
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  people are talking about Hallie and Reed, but I also like
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  completely get what she's saying.
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  She's like, I'm just trying to live my life.
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  And it would be so conflicting where the thing, the people, the
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  platform, the job that gave you everything like literally has
• 19:57
  changed your life is also the thing that is absolutely
• 20:01
  destroying your life. And I was thinking about
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  recently how we talk a lot on this podcast about how creators
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  will often perceive. Constructive criticism or
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  sometimes like negative feedback as hate when it's not.
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  But eventually you kind of get, I guess, like desensitized to
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  the comments. And therefore anything that's
• 20:21
  like remotely critical or negative, it's just easier for
• 20:26
  your brain to categorize that as hate.
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  And I was thinking about how I think that's probably just how
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  it goes across the board. Like I think there has to be
• 20:34
  some element of self preservation.
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  Even if you are like the most beloved creator, the amount of
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  feedback that big creators get, even if it's positive, is
• 20:44
  absolutely abnormal. It would be so overwhelming and
• 20:48
  I don't even know if you would realize that necessarily, but it
• 20:50
  would impact your mental health so much.
• 20:53
  You know how they say like, you're not supposed to know the
• 20:55
  opinions of like millions of people think about you?
• 20:58
  You should actually not really know what anybody thinks about
• 21:00
  you unless somebody has like a personal relationship with you
• 21:03
  and then they come to you with a problem or something like that.
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  But like knowing how hundreds of thousands if not millions of
• 21:10
  people feel about you at any given time is not normal.
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  And even if it is positive, there would just be some like
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  subconscious element of like self preservation where your
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  brain would just have to like shut down.
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  So I think it can be easier for creators to think in like a
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  binary when it comes to the feedback that they get and what
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  their audience wants from them, which I think is what we kind of
• 21:35
  see with Hallie and what we see with Chris, where it's like
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  people are not necessarily hating on them for like, quote
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  UN quote bad reasons or like super valid reasons.
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  And it's not even necessarily hate.
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  It's like snark. I mean, what happened to Chris
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  and the leaked like intimate photos was obviously abuse.
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  But regardless, like what he was talking about where he's like, I
• 21:56
  come on this app and like people just hate on me for being like
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  annoying and I get harassed for being annoying.
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  I think a lot of the people that make these comments or write on
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  snark, but it's like they would consider it not hate.
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  Like they would consider it discourse and snark.
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  But it would be almost impossible to look at all the
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  different types of feedback that you get from millions of people
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  as a big creator and be able to actually categorize that
• 22:19
  properly. So I do think that is why we see
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  so many creators take all types of constructive criticism and
• 22:27
  just label it as hate. But when it comes to Hallie
• 22:30
  Kate, I feel really bad for her. She does get from what I have
• 22:35
  seen, some of the most criticism ever for just like existing and
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  posting online, at least in this current moment.
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  And you know, we see that sometimes with like Jaclyn Hill
• 22:46
  and stuff like there's there are these creators who like anything
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  they post, they get like a ton of criticism.
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  But usually it's after they've had a big scandal or two where
• 22:56
  people have kind of seen the mask drop and they, they have a
• 22:59
  really negative experience with them.
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  And I don't think we've had that with Hallie, Correct me if I'm
• 23:04
  wrong, but I don't think we've really had that with her.
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  So I find it really interesting that she triggers so many
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  people. Anyways, guys, that's my
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  analysis on that. Thank you so much for listening
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  to you tomorrow. Bye.