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WWE's Lana (CJ Perry) on Reinvention, Rusev & Identity Crisis | Delulu with Ryan Lu #201 · Delulu with Ryan Lu

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  Oh well, you manifested that. I always wanted and I would tell
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  my parents that I'm like, I'm going to, I want to be famous
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  and I I also am going to be a multi millionaire.
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  I'm going to be the first dancer that makes millions of dollars.
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  Tell us about Lana. Lana, the ravishing Russian
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  Lana, She was a ice queen and she likes to crush people.
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  Hello Delulu Divas and welcome back to Delulu.
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  We are joined today by WWE legend and Money in the Bank
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  champion. We are manifesting that CJ
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  Perry, she is Miss Hot and flexible and actually becoming a
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  really cool, amazing friend in my corner, which is surprising
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  because we actually come from drastically different worlds and
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  backgrounds, which we'll get into, but also not that
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  surprising because we are also both natural blondes.
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  So we have that connection already.
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  But hi, CJ, thanks for coming on the show.
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  Oh. My gosh, thank you so much for
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  having me. I'm so excited.
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  I'm so excited. We've been talking for, like, I
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  want to say hours, yeah. And.
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  I feel like we've actually done like 10 shows prior to this one,
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  but I'm so excited because I know we're going to get into all
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  the little nitty gritty and everything with the world of CJ
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  Perry. And the world of CJ Perry is
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  expansive. Oh my gosh.
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  You have been in the entertainment industry for a
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  minute now, and I want to start by asking where does CJ come
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  from and what have you done? But I think the real question is
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  what have you not done? Oh.
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  My God, you have. Touched every form of
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  entertainment. Oh.
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  My God, thank you. Well, you are a dancer.
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  You break dance, you act. You also sang a little bit.
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  Oh. My God, yes, A.
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  Wrestler. A performer.
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  Just truly, truly, truly an entertainer at your core.
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  Who is CJ Perry in CJ Perry's words?
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  Oh my God. Gosh, that's so complex it.
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  Is and that's what we love and we're going to get into it.
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  And if you have a little identity crisis or so on the
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  show, we'll we'll figure it out together.
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  Perfect, perfect. I go through a lot of identity
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  crisis throughout my day so. You know what, there's a new
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  podcast that I was watching about that.
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  It's really good. You need to check it out.
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  Just a side note. What is it called?
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  It's called Identity Crisis with CJ Perry and Jonathan Sava.
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  Thank you. My favorite current podcast, and
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  it's so good. We'll get into the besties.
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  We'll get into the besties. Oh gosh, so I American born, I
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  grew up in Eastern Europe. My parents were Christian
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  missionaries, so that was very interesting.
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  My mom is Jewish and so I also grew up with like a lot of
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  Jewish traditions but being Christian so I was from the get
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  go open to so much. I think the right word is
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  inclusivity. Yeah, absolutely.
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  Religion and spirituality. Being open to like different
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  forms of people beliefs and being open to what the universe
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  has to offer and whatever forms there is and what people believe
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  in, yes. Absolutely and prayer like my
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  dad still to this day teaches on prayer.
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  And so I just would learned so much early on the power of
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  prayer and manifesting and believing.
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  So you know. And look how much it's served
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  you. That's insane.
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  Absolutely. I definitely would say I was
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  delulu, still am a little and. You're going to be hella delulu
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  on the show, so please bring it out for us.
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  So, yeah, I love that. So I grew up in Eastern Europe.
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  I start, I became a professional ballerina at 10 years old with
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  the Russians. So that was crazy.
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  I was They would call me like a fat cow and show throw their
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  heels at me. What the heck?
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  That's crazy. Is that like normal?
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  Totally it. It was very like Nadia Komenich
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  things like I don't know, that probably was it was before my
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  years too. But I believe you think like
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  communism gymnastics regime harsh cut.
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  Throat. Oh my God, They would come with
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  paddles. Oh my God, it was crazy.
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  It was crazy. So that I think like really set
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  me up to be resilient for the rest of my life.
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  And because I was really lucky to be able to grow up in a very
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  awesome environment with my parents and my family.
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  And they, they're very American and positive and encouraging.
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  And here I am with the Super American family and so positive,
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  smiling, welcoming. Very different than the
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  environment you're in. Oh, totally.
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  Like Eastern Europe, everyone's cold every You don't smile, say
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  hello to strangers. Oh.
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  My God, I'm a little too smiley for Russia right now.
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  You know, it's cold, it's dark, it's oppressive, and so it just
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  kind of bleeds into all areas of life.
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  And so I'm really thankful that I had that positive environment
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  at home because I don't know if I would have survived all the
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  negativity. Yeah, because they were like.
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  A forever winter type situation. Forever winter.
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  But just like they, they tell you you're stupid, you're fat.
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  Like we encourage you to be anorexic and you know, it's
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  literally they would say it's better to be skinny and anorexic
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  and sick than to be rosy and fat like you are.
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  Oh, that's fucked. I.
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  Know and I was like 100 lbs and. Which is like nothing, yeah.
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  Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah.
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  So that really like my dad would, I would come home and I
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  would cry. I was sleeping splits because I
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  wasn't flexible. So I would sleep with my legs
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  open like straddle style. But wait.
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  Really. You weren't flexible.
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  I broke myself in, so I became flexible with the.
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  Because I was hot and flexible. I love that you know that.
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  Oh, I know everything, CJ Perry, and we'll get into everything.
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  So you had to grow into the flexibility.
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  You earned that title, truly. I did.
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  Oh, I really did. I really did.
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  Absolutely respect. Thank you.
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  So that took me and to moving to New York City, Alvin Ailey
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  dancing professionally there. Then I decided to go the
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  university went to Florida State.
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  They have an incredible dance program, but they also have like
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  the college book experience And my dad really wanted me to have
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  like 1 American experience because I moved back when I was
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  17 and I. Grew up there, yes.
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  And then now you're back. Yes.
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  So 5 to 17, I'm over there. From 10 to 17, I was dancing at
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  the Latvian National Ballet Company, and then I was dancing
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  with Ballet Hispanico in New York.
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  Alvin Ailey and I decided, OK, let me get a college book
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  experience. I never had prom.
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  I didn't go to an American high school and honestly, it was the
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  greatest thing I've ever done because I when it comes to like,
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  just personal growth, Yeah, because I was able to go to the
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  college football games and tailgate.
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  Very American. So.
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  American being like separated from that.
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  You obviously had it at home with a very American family,
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  yes, but now it's like your environment is finally matching
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  what you were living. Yes, yes.
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  So that was super awesome. And they have great film schools
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  and music theater, so that was really great.
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  I started break dancing there because everyone saw me as a
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  dancer and I would go to a party and I was like, say the last
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  dance. Like I could not.
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  Really. Have you always like loved
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  attention? Would you love attention at
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  parties? I definitely love attention.
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  Me too, Yes, Oh my God, absolutely.
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  Same things like. Why can't I get an open circle?
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  Learning how to break dance, then if that's going to get me
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  some attention, you're going to have to teach me.
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  When we get to the Break Dance Lulu section, you'll teach me
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  how to break dance. We'll teach you definitely how
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  to do some backspins. OK, Hell yeah.
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  I mean, you're 1 of many talents.
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  So break dancing, acting, you did a little bit of singing.
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  We'll get into that. Ballet, of course, is what you
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  mentioned. But you were born an
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  entertainer, truly. Like you've wanted to entertain.
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  You wanted to perform since day one.
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  Yes, I've as long as I can remember, my mom has crazy
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  stories and videos of me dancing like learning all the worship
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  dances that were at church and imitating it.
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  And I know and just like a lot of different performances on TV,
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  learning it. And yeah, that led.
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  I always wanted to be. I guess I can say this now, I
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  was going to be famous. Oh well, you manifested that
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  you. Always wanted and I would tell
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  my parents that I'm like I'm going to I want to be famous and
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  I I also want to be a multi millionaire.
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  I'm going to be the first dancer that makes millions of dollars.
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  Oh my gosh, that's such a powerful intention at such a
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  young age. Which by the way did manifest,
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  which is crazy. I'm very thankful.
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  How powerful is that? I'm it's so powerful.
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  I I don't know if you know who Pistol Pete is.
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  He that sounds familiar. So he was the first person in
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  basketball that made $1,000,000 and in his high school paper.
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  And I watched this movie. It was my dad's favorite player
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  and he, I, we watched this movie and he's in high school writes
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  this paper saying that I'm going to make $1,000,000 playing
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  basketball. And the whole class laughed and
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  I remember turning to my dad and I'm like, I'm going, I don't
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  know how a ballerina is going to make millions of dollars.
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  Besides, but you're going to be the one.
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  Exactly, but I'm going to do that.
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  And you did. Yeah, and my dad would always be
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  like, the Sky's the limit keep. Training.
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  Oh yeah, the Sky's the limit. Love that.
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  They were encouraging of that, too.
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  They were so encouraging. He would always be like,
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  everything's possible, nothing's impossible, you know?
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  Do you feel like that mindset encouragement really helped you
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  believe in it too? Because maybe if they didn't
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  necessarily encourage it in that way, do you think it would have
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  stifled you or stopped you from believing it for yourself?
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  I think for sure, absolutely because like what I know about
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  myself now, I, I am so beyond thankful for having a, a good
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  environment growing up at home, even though they were really
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  strict because of their faith and values.
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  And so they were, there was maybe a lot of things I wasn't
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  allowed to do, like maybe go to like a school dance or have a
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  boyfriend. But at the end of the day, they
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  were so encouraging and they never stopped me from chasing my
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  dreams. And I believe that actually that
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  strictness helped me excel because I it was kind of nerdy.
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  It was like this nerdy ballerina who.
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  I wouldn't. Never.
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  Boys. Oh my gosh, that's crazy.
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  Only did ballet, you know, Only watched Batman and Superman and
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  yeah, it's so funny, so. A completely different like,
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  existence. And you know what?
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  That's interesting. I grew up in a very strict and
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  like, you know, sheltered upbringing too.
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  And I felt like similar to you, I was very like shy and I kept
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  to myself and I was like, not really the type of person that
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  would really want to put myself out there, even wanting to be
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  perceived. And it's completely different
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  than what I do now, and obviously completely different
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  than what you're doing now. Well, it's so interesting
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  because even when we went to the dinner the other night, that's
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  right, how both of us were texting each other, how we're
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  shy, so shy. And I think, yeah, it's so
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  interesting because I people find it so shocking when they
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  find out I'm like, I'm very shy. Me too, but.
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  It's like no one believes me. It's.
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  I'm mad introverted. Yeah, yeah.
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  Absolutely and. We related to that.
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  We were talking about it before we went in.
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  We were like, I don't know. I was like, I'm anxious.
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  I was like, I don't know, like I'm going to have to talk to
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  people. I saved you a seat and I was
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  like. It's so true, yeah.
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  So I think like dance was a part verbal talking to people.
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  And this was not always. I was very shy at talking.
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  And I remember my father whenever I would dance, let's
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  say at a church event, he would be like, OK, I will let you can
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  do your dance performance, but you have to introduce it and you
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  have to talk Before. I hated that part.
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  I was like, Oh my gosh, this is so hard.
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  And I'll never forget, I think like 17 years old.
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  I decided all of a sudden right before this piece I was going to
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  do, I decided to open up about my eating disorders at church
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  and say I've struggled with eating disorders my whole life,
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  but like I am choosing to try to overcome this and love my body.
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  And my dad didn't know. Like my dad knew I was
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  struggling with it. And I literally said all this
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  stuff and people are crying in church and like my dad
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  afterwards came up to me and he's like, you're going to do
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  great things with your. Life and you absolutely have,
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  and you're continuing to do so. Yeah, that's incredible.
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  Thank you. I think though, it's like you
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  get it because being online we open ourselves up like and I
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  think that people don't understand that there is a price
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  to pay opening up like that vulnerability of sharing, OK,
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  I've eating the sort of I'm trying to overcome it.
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  But that part of opening up is that's how we move into a space
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  of being able to be a role model or.
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  Absolutely. And it helps so many people, you
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  know what I mean? Like especially like when you
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  are in a position where people are watching and people need
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  someone to either relate to or at least have them feel like
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  they're being understood. It makes such a big difference.
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  And being vulnerable like that, while it is very scary, I always
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  think to myself like if I'm going to be vulnerable, if I'm
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  going to say something or like whatever, if it helps one
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  person, it was worth it. You say that all the.
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  Time. Wait, really?
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  OK, 20? Oh my God, I love that.
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  Yes, and it's so true. It's so true.
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  It's so true because sometimes, like especially in my mid 20s, I
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  was so broke at times. Like I, the recession happened
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  in 2008 and my parents eventually had the not
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  foreclose, but give up their house in 2012.
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  And I, I had the, I worked in the, in the business during that
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  time and it got hit. Like if a normal day for
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  modeling was $1500, I would get paid for a catalog and that's a
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  lot back in 2008. That would be equivalent to like
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  $5000 right now. You know of like the way pay has
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  gone up, right? And so in one day it went from
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  1500 to everyone's rate cut to 500.
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  Like if you're a catalog. It felt.
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  Did it feel like overnight? Oh, it was like that.
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  Oh, that's crazy. And how do you live like that?
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  Exactly. And so it was.
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  It was crazy. The writers strike happened and
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  recession and that's why I ended up doing a girls group for a
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  year. I learned a lot from OK.
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  I don't do that anymore. Really.
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  Did you not like it? Well, I had to live with four
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  girls. You had to live with them.
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  Yeah, you had to live. With them?
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  Are you close with them? No, I didn't know any of them.
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  Oh, they were coworkers, Yes, essentially.
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  OK, so. It's like being married to three
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  other women and it's. Just like this is Neo's label,
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  right? Yes, Neo's label and the girl
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  group was no means yes. Yikes, they would not work
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  anymore. Oh my gosh, I was like when I
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  read that, I was like, huh? Yeah, so it was a different
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  time. It was a different time.
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  And actually we were. That's when Obama was running.
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  And so the girls in the group wanted to run with yes, we
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  can't. Like even if you give us a no,
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  we can. We will make a way.
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  Oh, the intention, got it. Yes.
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  So that's where. It was good explanation.
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  It makes more. Sense but now like yeah no,
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  definitely not frightening Oh my God, Oh my God so that was I
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  learned a lot I learned how to be a team player from that
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  situation because in dance it's not a sport it's not a team
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  sport. It's a very individual, very
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  individual. Especially in ballet, you want
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  to be the prima ballerina. It's very cutthroat.
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  You get, you have understudies, you get injured, next thing you
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  know your understudy takes your place and maybe it's permanently
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  taking your place. So highly competitive.
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  It's so highly competitive, so in sports it's the same way, but
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  then you're in a team, so at the end of the day you have to win
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  as a team. There was a common goal there
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  versus like when you're doing ballet or, you know, when you're
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  individually dancing, it's like, I need to be the one that's
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  coming on top and I'm the one who's getting the parts and I'm
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  the one who's getting most attention, yes.
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  Absolutely. And I'm very competitive.
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  Me too, which is our superpower. But it also can, you know, be,
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  yeah, a little intense at times. So that was where it was good
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  for me because I would just be so competitive.
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  I wanted to be better than everyone in the group and I,
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  yeah, I wanted to be better. I wasn't like, no, let's all be
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  great. It's like I wanted to be better.
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  Oh my gosh, was that the intention when you were in the
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  group? Like like you actively knew you
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  wanted to be the best 10. Absolutely.
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  Oh my God, I mean, I knew I would never be the best singer
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  'cause there were two girls that were singer singers.
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  You're brought on to be like the dancer, the break dancer.
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  Yes, Yes, yes, yes, yes. That's exactly, exactly.
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  I love you did. Research.
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  Hell yeah. And there was so much, the
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  research. You have such an extensive
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  career. Thank you.
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  And oh, my God, you've done so much.
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  And not only just the girl group, but you also danced for
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  major artists such as Pink and Nelly.
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  And I'm trying to remember the rest.
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  Usher. Yes, yes.
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  OK. That is so crazy ludicrous.
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  T pain. Gosh, you're all Hilson.
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  Yes, I've a lot of people. I can't even.
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  Honestly, I can't even. Remember, you don't really so
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  much. And then you tipped into acting,
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  You continue to do acting, but you were in projects such as
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  Pitch Perfect, yes. Pitch Perfect The sequel too,
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  yes. And that was all from dance,
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  like pitch, actually pitch perfect.
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  I would say it was dance and singing a little bit.
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  So the singing helped me. I, I think learned how to be,
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  I'm so thankful learned how to be a team player because they're
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  like, you're only as good as the worst person in the group.
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  So that changed. Like I was like, Oh no, we got
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  to all get better at dancing now guys, and 1/2 not you directed
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  that enough guys, let's hit it again.
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  Oh girl. So that was that helped me and
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  that also helped me for Pitch Perfect because I I was so
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  scared to sing in front of people.
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  So you. Got more acclimated to it.
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  Yes. So that helped me get pitch
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  perfect. Do you feel like you're thankful
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  the girl group didn't work out? Oh, yeah, yeah.
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  But it really opened doors for you, too.
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  Yeah, that's crazy how like life follows that path, right?
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  For sure, for sure. So one thing I will tell you
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  about the girl group that I've learned when I look when I was
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  in therapy, I in therapy and also like this, I do a
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  spiritual, I have a spiritual director actually as well.
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  And I meet with her once a week and for an hour.
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  And it's like, if you have your therapy overall, this is like my
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  own spiritual journey, right? Because that's like as equally
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  important to me as going to the gym and working out or.
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  Oh yeah. You know it.
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  All falls into like, yes, self-care and Wellness.
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  Yes, absolutely. And I'm a very spiritual person.
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  I am very instinctual. And so that's what I've really
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  learned is that I knew I shouldn't have joined the girl
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  group. Like, I knew it in my gut.
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  I knew it in my instinct. I I dropped out of my last
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  semester of college, actually, and I still haven't gone back.
• 18:38
  Yeah, I. Know not that you need to.
• 18:39
  Not that I need to, but like hindsight, like I should have
• 18:42
  just finished, you know, and it wasn't even about that.
• 18:45
  Like I for about a year and a half, I just kind of biessed
• 18:47
  around in Atlanta, learned a lot.
• 18:49
  It was great, but. I so this was in Atlanta.
• 18:53
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Oh my God.
• 18:54
  Fun fact, Lulu, I'm from Georgia.
• 18:55
  The state, not the country. I love that you say that because
• 18:59
  a lot of people think that. A lot of people would assume,
• 19:02
  yeah, yeah, you have to clarify these days.
• 19:06
  So I love that. So wait, isn't Brett?
• 19:10
  Wait. No, you're not.
• 19:11
  You're from Orange County. You did this bit before, I
• 19:16
  remember. You clocked it.
• 19:18
  I'm like, wait, you've done this one before?
• 19:22
  So funny you have a great memory.
• 19:24
  Okay, I guess because you exposed it.
• 19:27
  I am originally from Orange County in California and our
• 19:32
  mutual producer Brett Mick Shaner from Georgia.
• 19:38
  The state, not the country. We got to have a cutaway.
• 19:42
  You have discussed it so many times, it has never happened.
• 19:46
  Well, let's get the budget up, guys.
• 19:47
  Please rate the show for us so we can get more cameras in the
• 19:50
  studio. Please rate it five stars while
• 19:52
  you're listening. We'd really appreciate it.
• 19:55
  Thank you guys for the support. But you clocked it.
• 19:58
  Yes, Good memory. That was, I'm like, wait.
• 20:02
  So yeah, that was wait. I forgot what we were talking
• 20:05
  about. So you dropped out of college to
• 20:07
  the girl group? Oh, yeah.
• 20:08
  So I like, I know 99% of the time I know if I should do
• 20:15
  something or not do something because it like resonates in my
• 20:19
  gut like to such an extent. I wish I had.
• 20:22
  That I think you can cultivate it.
• 20:24
  Oh, I think I'm going to try to you.
• 20:26
  Have to like, first of all, the first thing is, and if you guys
• 20:28
  are listening to this now, this is a big part of manifesting.
• 20:31
  I believe we're ready. It's like, and the more you
• 20:33
  cultivate it, the stronger it gets.
• 20:35
  So the more you don't listen to it, the weaker it gets.
• 20:38
  That makes. Sense that's what I did for
• 20:39
  years. So just trust it.
• 20:41
  Trust your God. And so like the girl, the girl
• 20:44
  group, my desire to be famous and also being sold the dream
• 20:50
  rich was more important to me than staying on my Rd. of being
• 20:55
  excellent at dance because I was excellent.
• 20:57
  It was getting all these opportunities wasn't excellent
• 21:00
  at singing. And so I just kind of like got
• 21:05
  loss because I wanted, I bought the BS that we were going to
• 21:09
  become famous. Well, they're going to sell you
• 21:11
  a lot of BS and to this day you and I are sold a lot of BS.
• 21:14
  And that's why I just like, right now, I'd never believe
• 21:16
  anybody. I don't even believe anything.
• 21:18
  I'm like okay. 100% I take everything with a grain of salt
• 21:21
  because like, I'm sold the dream.
• 21:24
  Honestly, we'd probably be billionaires by now if we had.
• 21:28
  Every. Point.
• 21:29
  For every single person in the world who told me I was a mega *
• 21:32
  and they're going to make it happen for me, like then yes.
• 21:36
  I mean, they're right, but let's act on it.
• 21:39
  For sure. And this city, there's so many,
• 21:41
  like so much of that. Oh.
• 21:43
  My God, so much. Absolutely.
• 21:45
  So I, that was the biggest like what I'm the one of the most
• 21:48
  thankful for of that journey, yeah.
• 21:51
  That era for you? Yeah, 'cause now I'm like I and
• 21:55
  to my spiritual director said I like know I shouldn't have.
• 21:59
  So every time I have that feeling that something's not
• 22:02
  right, like a. Now you really trust it.
• 22:05
  You, you just have to at least pause.
• 22:07
  Like maybe maybe if you, if something, if you're getting
• 22:10
  anxiety, if you're getting anxiety about something, it's
• 22:13
  something that doesn't feel right.
• 22:14
  That is your body and your gut telling you or your instinct.
• 22:19
  You know God, whatever you want to say, telling you, take a
• 22:25
  second. There's a reason you feel that.
• 22:26
  Way take a second. Maybe it's not no, maybe it's
• 22:29
  not exactly what you think, but it is telling you something's
• 22:32
  not right. So like breathe, take your time,
• 22:34
  meditate on it, pray about it, do more research on it and like
• 22:40
  and it doesn't lie. Our instincts do not.
• 22:42
  Lie. And you know what?
• 22:42
  It's such a simple statement to be like, trust your instincts,
• 22:45
  trust your gut. But like, truly, when you do
• 22:47
  trust it, like, that's when doors open and you also see
• 22:50
  things and it's a lot of clarity.
• 22:52
  Yes, yes. So I started, this was in 2022,
• 22:55
  like I started work and this is when I had this first revelation
• 22:58
  and or actually 2021 and I just got cast onto another movie and
• 23:05
  I had a really bad feeling. Like I had a bad feeling.
• 23:07
  Yeah. I was like, I don't know, this
• 23:09
  isn't going to happen. This isn't going to like, and
• 23:13
  yes, and my husband is like, you're being negative and you
• 23:17
  know, my agent is saying the same thing, blah, blah, blah.
• 23:20
  And I'm just like, I don't know, something's not resonating.
• 23:22
  We go to New Mexico to shoot and the whole time, like something
• 23:26
  goes wrong. So it gets delayed one day.
• 23:29
  And by the second time it got delayed to the second day.
• 23:32
  I was like, this movie is not going to happen.
• 23:34
  Like it's not going to happen again.
• 23:35
  My husband is like Rousseff and from WWE is like, no, stop being
• 23:41
  negative. I'm like, I'm not being
• 23:42
  negative. And sure enough, the movie never
• 23:44
  happened. And it happened for a month
• 23:47
  longer of delay. Finally after a week, I was
• 23:49
  like, we should go home. Everyone's like we're crazy,
• 23:52
  blah, blah, blah. It's going to happen.
• 23:53
  I'm telling you, huge people are in this movie who have worked in
• 23:56
  the industry for 30 years. And I'm like my instinct, it's,
• 23:59
  it's not going to happen. Because like logically you would
• 24:01
  think, well, these major names are on this project, so it's
• 24:04
  going to happen, but you felt that something.
• 24:05
  Was going to and sure enough, everyone went from New Mexico
• 24:08
  City to Oklahoma. Were there for over a month.
• 24:11
  Nothing happened. But you left.
• 24:13
  Yes. Oh my God.
• 24:14
  OK guys, we're trusting our gut 100% from now on.
• 24:17
  Like how your gut's telling you to rate the show 5 stars right
• 24:19
  now. We're trusting that we're doing
• 24:21
  it. That's an like little tip about
• 24:25
  instincts because I was studying a lot about billionaires and
• 24:28
  entrepreneurs and they cultivate their instinct as well.
• 24:33
  And I think like the biggest difference between our gut and
• 24:36
  our brain and our heart is like our heart only feels and that's
• 24:41
  really important. Our brain is only analytical,
• 24:44
  but to have the most correct instincts, it's like get as much
• 24:49
  facts about it all as possible. And then your gut takes your
• 24:54
  feelings and facts and kind of resonates that.
• 24:58
  So the more you we can get actual facts and information
• 25:01
  because that's the only time sometimes I might be off is
• 25:03
  like, I don't know enough information.
• 25:05
  This is why I'm. Feeling.
• 25:06
  All the information, I like to look at it from every angle
• 25:09
  before I make any decision, but I'm deeply analytical.
• 25:11
  And that's why I feel like I need to work on like trusting my
• 25:13
  gun instincts too. Because there's so many times
• 25:16
  where I've been like, I don't know, I feel about this, but I'm
• 25:18
  like, no, but it makes sense. But I really do try to like
• 25:21
  break everything down to like get a good feel of it before I
• 25:24
  make any decision. Like I like to be informed,
• 25:26
  essentially. Totally.
• 25:27
  You're very analytical, super analytical, are you?
• 25:30
  So that's interesting. I feel like, yeah, if you, I
• 25:34
  feel like if 'cause you're so analytical, you get all, if you
• 25:38
  got all the information and then you just started practicing
• 25:40
  breath work, 'cause you pray. Yeah, I pray every night.
• 25:44
  Oh my God, that's amazing. And you, if you like, just take
• 25:49
  all the information and then do like some breath work, like 5
• 25:52
  breaths just sitting there and like just pray like God, you
• 25:57
  know what I might and it's going to come.
• 25:59
  To the routine because I do pray every night and like honestly, I
• 26:01
  could definitely use a little breath work.
• 26:03
  And you mentioned that to me before too.
• 26:05
  And I need to. There's a lot that I could do,
• 26:07
  which is myself care. I've been working so hard on
• 26:10
  this show that I've been really neglecting myself, so it's nice
• 26:14
  to have those reminders. We have to do that because if
• 26:16
  not, your show's not going to be the best it can be, yeah.
• 26:17
  Because then I'm not going to be the best.
• 26:18
  I'm going to. Be Yeah, you.
• 26:19
  It's literally that is and. That's the way to get through to
• 26:23
  me because this is a project I care so much about.
• 26:24
  I'm like, OK, wait, let me make sure that everything's in tip
• 26:27
  top shape. So I'm exactly the same way
• 26:30
  because we're both workaholics, so I will like run my like on
• 26:36
  empty and. But all of that eventually has
• 26:39
  an effect, hence why it's. True.
• 26:41
  And then that's why like when we spoke, when we initially met, I
• 26:44
  was so burnt out and also Moody and I was so angry and just like
• 26:47
  I hit that wall. I really did hit that wall.
• 26:49
  And then talking to you, hearing your perspective really gave me
• 26:53
  the reset I need needed to kind of move forward and be good
• 26:56
  again and be able to be like, OK, cool, let's let's get going.
• 26:58
  Which I'm so grateful for because I feel so much better.
• 27:00
  Oh my God. And that's something you did for
• 27:02
  me. You healed me.
• 27:02
  You're my spiritual director. Oh yeah, I love.
• 27:06
  You OK, So you have this journey, you have such an
• 27:09
  incredible career in entertainment, you do all these
• 27:11
  things and now we end up at WWE. So how did you end up getting
• 27:16
  into WWE? Oh my gosh, it was a crazy
• 27:19
  journey. I so when I was in College in
• 27:23
  2007, I was this calendar model and I had this big poster and
• 27:28
  won this big competition and they reached out to me.
• 27:32
  And while I was in like I was still 21 in college, and they
• 27:36
  brought me to Miami and I went backstage to a show and they
• 27:39
  were recruiting me and I turned it down.
• 27:44
  Oh, why was it a gut? Thing because it was a gut
• 27:46
  thing, yes. And I was like, I want to finish
• 27:49
  college. This was a year before the here
• 27:53
  before the girl grew. And also I didn't like I didn't
• 27:58
  really see myself as a fighter. I saw myself as an artist and a
• 28:02
  entertainer. I didn't a performer.
• 28:04
  Exactly. I didn't understand what WWE
• 28:06
  really. Was you weren't like super dived
• 28:07
  into that world yet. You were aware of WWE, but you
• 28:11
  didn't recognize that that is performing.
• 28:13
  Yes. And again, like my instinct was
• 28:16
  I really wanted to dance professionally and there was a
• 28:18
  lot more things I wanted to do. And I felt like until I do those
• 28:22
  things, I didn't want to stop dancing and go and kind of into
• 28:27
  a different form of story. Yes.
• 28:30
  So I'm, so, I'm so, so thankful I did that again.
• 28:34
  Now hindsight, I followed my gut, my instinct, and that was
• 28:36
  spot on. So I then when I came out here
• 28:39
  in 2010 and I was dancing on a bunch of different shows,
• 28:43
  Nickelodeon shows and different artists, I for two years in a
• 28:48
  row got auditions to come and try us 'cause they would do them
• 28:53
  in the fall for WWE, for WWE and so.
• 28:55
  They kept asking you to come back.
• 28:56
  Yes, they would come and get it and every single time I was
• 28:59
  always on a job like I was on a 2 week job for I forgot the I
• 29:04
  think it was Victoria or it was like one of the one of the
• 29:08
  Nickelodeon shows. Victoria, Justice.
• 29:10
  Victoria Justice. OK, that was on Disney.
• 29:12
  Yeah, that, that one. She was on the Nickelodeon
• 29:15
  thing. Was it a tour?
• 29:16
  Big Time Rush. That's I was on it for like 3
• 29:18
  weeks and. That's a dancer.
• 29:20
  Yes, yes, it was so fun. Oh my God, it was so much fun.
• 29:24
  But I couldn't go to any of the auditions.
• 29:28
  So then in 2012 they did this huge diva search, which that's
• 29:33
  how they casted a couple of the girls for Total Divas and it
• 29:37
  went for like 7 months and I was one of the girls they picked.
• 29:40
  They took twelve of us and we had a Newport like a month camp
• 29:45
  of learning how to wrestle and it's so hard.
• 29:50
  Didn't know how to wrestle initially.
• 29:51
  No and I. Trained for it.
• 29:54
  And it's so hard. I don't think people understand.
• 29:56
  Like, This is why they put us through a month camp, because
• 30:00
  all of us girls were either professional dancers or models
• 30:03
  or actresses, and they wanted to see if we were durable enough.
• 30:08
  And it's crazy, like us just hitting the ropes back and
• 30:11
  forth, like immediately we were bruising, like literally huge
• 30:16
  bumps and scabs and blisters. And yeah, it's so hard.
• 30:21
  It's so hard. I was like, I know.
• 30:24
  I was like, I don't know if I can actually.
• 30:27
  Like, not glamour. Living, it's hard, but I just
• 30:31
  fell in love with it and I loved it.
• 30:33
  Was kind of like I felt that my entire life up to that point I
• 30:37
  was always doing different forms of entertainment and I wasn't
• 30:41
  fulfilling everything like I. Didn't hit all the marks.
• 30:44
  Exactly like dancer was hitting this mark.
• 30:47
  Life performing live and then television and film was the more
• 30:51
  storytelling and verbal part. And then I wanted to be an
• 30:54
  athlete with action figures and cards and dress up and do photo
• 31:00
  shoots. There's so many different angles
• 31:03
  to performing in. A lot of it focuses on one or
• 31:06
  you get one thing out of it, like you said, but you wanted to
• 31:09
  entertain, you want it to be in front of an audience.
• 31:11
  You want to do something physical, you want it to tell a
• 31:14
  story, and you also want to tell a story with your body in
• 31:17
  different forms and take pictures and be that star and
• 31:20
  really step into to being famous.
• 31:22
  And you found that with WWE. It was the perfect mix of
• 31:26
  everything you loved. Yes.
• 31:27
  Wow. And I, I truly just fell in love
• 31:30
  with professional wrestling overall professional wrestling
• 31:33
  because I, I love it. I love the aspect of the life
• 31:37
  storytelling and the characters and the good versus bad.
• 31:40
  But WWE specifically is it's louder, larger than life and.
• 31:47
  You love that. Too, I love that.
• 31:49
  And it's it's a like a rock star.
• 31:52
  It's literally like a rock concert with pyro smoke
• 31:56
  fireworks. Yeah, all the bells and
• 31:59
  whistles. He has all the bells and
• 32:00
  whistles, the costumes, the sequences.
• 32:04
  Good versus bad comedy love. Storytelling.
• 32:09
  Storytelling. Yeah.
• 32:10
  It's all about story. Yeah.
• 32:12
  No matter what we do, I love that.
• 32:13
  And you've been loving storytelling just in every
• 32:16
  medium that you've explored. When it comes to entertaining
• 32:18
  entertainment, it's about storytelling for you it.
• 32:20
  Really is. And you think WWE is
• 32:23
  storytelling, but with your body.
• 32:24
  Yeah, yeah. And it's you're absolutely
• 32:27
  right. That's why I love TikTok and
• 32:28
  Instagram too, because they're platforms of storytelling.
• 32:31
  Absolutely. And it gives you the place to
• 32:33
  be, but to be creative like that, too, with low pressure,
• 32:36
  low stakes versus like a big, big, big like platform and
• 32:39
  audience like with WWEI mean, I'm sure like, it's still really
• 32:42
  big. TikTok and social media, yeah.
• 32:44
  No, that's. Crazy.
• 32:45
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 32:46
  So when you get into WWE, this is actually where we're
• 32:49
  introduced to Lana. Tell us about Lana.
• 32:53
  Lana, the ravishing Russian Lana, She was a ice queen and
• 32:58
  she likes to crush people and she likes to find champions that
• 33:02
  will go and crush for her. And you know, she is very
• 33:05
  opinionated. So I basically got to NXT and I
• 33:09
  realized there were tons of very good women wrestlers and I
• 33:15
  wanted to get to the top immediately.
• 33:17
  So I decided to become the Ice Queen manager and this is when I
• 33:22
  found Rousseff. Who?
• 33:24
  And that's where the love story begins.
• 33:27
  So yeah, I guess like and kind of AI was like.
• 33:30
  That was intimidating. Yeah, I, I, I was really
• 33:34
  fortunate and lucky to not get put on Total Divas because at
• 33:38
  first I got on a couple years later, but I was introduced.
• 33:41
  I was able to go to NXT and really train with some great
• 33:44
  iconic people such as Dusty Rhodes and other incredible
• 33:49
  coaches. And they, I love that I had so
• 33:52
  many character ideas. Like I literally had five
• 33:54
  different character pitches full on.
• 33:56
  I would come in with boards. I'm like, this is the storyboard
• 34:00
  for the character. This is like I would write.
• 34:02
  How you envision this character being?
• 34:04
  I would write so many promos for other people too, where Dusty
• 34:08
  Rhodes was like, I've never seen someone this creative.
• 34:15
  And I can just say a lot of the people didn't like me there
• 34:19
  because they're like, why is she smiling so much and
• 34:21
  enthusiastic? But.
• 34:23
  You know what, whatever, because like at the end of the day, you
• 34:26
  just want to create and you want to be a creative.
• 34:27
  And honestly, you actually ended up manifesting the existence of
• 34:31
  Lana. You had vision boards where you
• 34:34
  would put up things with a Russian in lust, is what you had
• 34:38
  said? Yes.
• 34:39
  And then that's what you ended up doing with WWE.
• 34:42
  Being Lana isn't that crazy. It's it's honestly.
• 34:45
  But you're good on manifesting. You're big on manifesting.
• 34:47
  I'm yes, I'm I'm a big believer on manifesting.
• 34:51
  So I think in 2011 I started reading the secret and then 2012
• 34:55
  I got the the sister book of the secret called magic and I just
• 34:59
  started practicing all those practices and every single thing
• 35:03
  and it's it completely changed my life.
• 35:05
  I was so broke. I, I had $50.00 in my account.
• 35:08
  I started practicing manifesting.
• 35:11
  I got, I wrote checks to myself, I printed out checks from the
• 35:14
  universe and I would write what I was going to make and I would
• 35:17
  put it on and all of that stuff has happened.
• 35:19
  I do that too by the way. I like write checks to myself
• 35:21
  with the money I want to make. It happens like this stuff
• 35:24
  really happens. I made a vision board in 2012
• 35:29
  into New Year's of 2013. That's when I got signed was in
• 35:32
  2013 and I made it. Me and my sister both made
• 35:35
  vision boards and she's manifested everything as well
• 35:38
  and it's so powerful. I put I wanted to always play a
• 35:42
  rush, either a Russian spy or a Russian villain character.
• 35:46
  I was always going out for these auditions in Hollywood.
• 35:48
  And so I put Russian with lust on my board and I put on like I
• 35:53
  when the time is right, I will find my partner and we will find
• 35:58
  love. People have a child and I put
• 36:02
  like a little corner up there and I found out later my husband
• 36:06
  also did a vision board at the same time.
• 36:08
  That's crazy. And we met seven months later.
• 36:12
  Oh my God that's insane. You quite literally manifested
• 36:14
  all of that. Yeah, it's insane.
• 36:16
  That's crazy and it was just like 1 after the other.
• 36:19
  It it was, it happened really fast.
• 36:21
  That was so crazy. The turn around.
• 36:24
  I I, I still, I'm blown away by it, of how quick it it changed
• 36:29
  because I was. Lana 1st and then your husband.
• 36:32
  Lana, then your. Husband met my husband the first
• 36:35
  day at NXT. Oh my.
• 36:36
  God and then. Going to be the very first day
• 36:38
  and then the second day. So he, I don't remember meeting
• 36:41
  him that day, but he remembers meeting me because.
• 36:44
  I mean, why wouldn't he? Hello.
• 36:46
  Look at you. It's hot and flexible.
• 36:49
  Yeah, so and then I met him again the next day at a tanning
• 36:52
  salon and I was like. And this is with a bunch of
• 36:55
  other people in like the NWWE, the WWE.
• 36:58
  Yes, yes. And so he's like a big guy.
• 37:00
  So I'm like, are you a wrestler? And he's like, why do you think
• 37:03
  I'm a wrestler? And I'm like, are you from
• 37:06
  Russia? You're a really strong accent.
• 37:07
  He's like Bulgaria. And we instantly became friends.
• 37:11
  And then the next day, Dusty Rhodes, who's head of creative
• 37:15
  at the time was wanted paired us to get the work together.
• 37:19
  And so we just, you know, I was always Miss Hustler.
• 37:22
  I had I would have him come over and we would shoot promos from
• 37:24
  the house and. You'd be working.
• 37:27
  Very much so. And a lot of people would be
• 37:29
  like, she's only good because she's working with him.
• 37:32
  And I was like, no, no, no, I'm literally producing these
• 37:35
  things. Absolutely.
• 37:36
  And it's your ideas and you're the one who's like spearheading
• 37:38
  it. They need to put some respect on
• 37:40
  your name. You are a hard worker and you're
• 37:42
  so smart and like, I love your work ethic and I love seeing
• 37:44
  everything that you do with entertainment.
• 37:46
  It goes so much deeper than just everything you've already done.
• 37:49
  It's also like we're going to be doing next, which we will
• 37:51
  literally be talking about, of course.
• 37:54
  And how did it feel playing the bad guy?
• 37:57
  Oh my gosh, that like now I can say is by far my favorite thing.
• 38:01
  But The funny thing is that in this time.
• 38:04
  So this 2013 August, we're working together, we're doing
• 38:08
  all comedy stuff my husband and I like with Russian characters.
• 38:12
  And then they were bringing him up to the main roster and they
• 38:16
  wanted him to be He's serious because, you know, there's a
• 38:19
  saying of wrestling that funny don't make money.
• 38:22
  And it basically the main event, the top stars, they're serious.
• 38:27
  They can have funny moments. But it's like, it's kind of like
• 38:29
  how comedy usually doesn't win an Oscar.
• 38:32
  It's hard to win an Oscar. Oh, right.
• 38:34
  In comedy versus drama, it's like.
• 38:36
  Not taking us seriously and there's not as much respect on
• 38:38
  it versus something that's more serious.
• 38:41
  Well, Matthew McConaughey used to be the ROM com darling
• 38:45
  that's. Right and.
• 38:46
  He chose not to work for two years because he wanted the
• 38:50
  crossover and drama because he knew that was only way he was
• 38:52
  going to win Oscar. Oh my God.
• 38:53
  Which is how he got Dallas Buyers Club and he won an Oscar.
• 38:57
  There you go. And he manifested that.
• 38:58
  Did too, yeah. So I, I didn't ever heard of
• 39:03
  that because I love comedy. I came from Hollywood.
• 39:05
  I was always auditioning for sitcom.
• 39:07
  Yeah, and you're fucking hilarious, by the way.
• 39:09
  I love talking to you. You're so fucking funny.
• 39:17
  So definitely he was like, OK, we're going to have to make this
• 39:21
  serious. And I was like serious.
• 39:24
  He's like, we're just going to have to.
• 39:25
  And I'm like, OK, so we start doing serious stuff.
• 39:28
  And it was challenging for me because now I know all of a
• 39:32
  sudden they're like, OK, you have to be a villain.
• 39:33
  He's the villain. You're going to be a villain.
• 39:36
  So he turns on Rocky Four and he's like steady Bridget Nielsen
• 39:40
  study this woman. And I was the wife to the
• 39:42
  undefeated Russian bad guy. And we just started to like pull
• 39:48
  inspiration from that. And I remember it was hard for
• 39:51
  me at first to be a bitch. You know, I'm like.
• 39:53
  Yeah, honestly, because you're really genuinely so pleasant and
• 39:56
  lovely and nice. Like, I mean that from the
• 39:57
  bottom of my heart, thank you. That's why you're a great
• 40:00
  performer. Because like when you switch
• 40:01
  into Lana, I'm like, girl, I'm scared.
• 40:03
  Oh my God, thank you. It was funny because I would be
• 40:06
  do. They don't really have this as
• 40:08
  much now, but at the time they had a lot of casting workshops
• 40:11
  in Hollywood. And so I would do a ton of
• 40:13
  casting workshops. And I remember a very big
• 40:17
  casting director who does all The CW stuff, Arrow, Smallville.
• 40:22
  Like for years he I did a comedy piece where I was like a little
• 40:26
  bit of the dorky, quirky Stoner and he's like great performance,
• 40:32
  awesome performance, but I don't believe you're that girl.
• 40:35
  Like and that's what acting is all about.
• 40:37
  And also what wrestling is all about and also what digital
• 40:40
  creating is all about is like, we want, we want to know, like
• 40:44
  we want to believe you're that person, you know, and and that's
• 40:48
  also where always our money pocket is going to lie, right?
• 40:51
  Is where we realize that people if they see us for 30 seconds,
• 40:55
  they're going to believe we're that character.
• 40:57
  And he's like, I just don't believe you're this character.
• 40:59
  He's like, you're way too confident, way too like your
• 41:04
  energy is like you do what you want.
• 41:06
  You walk to the beat of your own drum.
• 41:08
  And I'm like, OK, yeah, that's very true about me, you know,
• 41:12
  very, very true. And he's like, so watch, like he
• 41:17
  said, Jennifer Lawrence, Olivia Munn.
• 41:20
  He's like, though these type of characters, these type of women
• 41:24
  are going to those type of roles with I do anything I'm going to
• 41:28
  do my own thing is what you need to be auditioning for.
• 41:32
  And so it was interesting. That's what Lana was.
• 41:35
  Lana is totally like, she's gonna, she don't care if she
• 41:38
  gets booed or cheer, she's gonna be what she.
• 41:41
  Believes she's so empowered within herself.
• 41:43
  She has such a confidence. Yeah.
• 41:45
  And you're always, like, studying.
• 41:47
  Like, I noticed that you really do your research just in
• 41:49
  general. But then, like, your entire
• 41:51
  upbringing in your life and your career, like, you really, you
• 41:54
  really, really, really study. You know what I mean?
• 41:55
  One might say that you're always a student.
• 41:58
  I, I received that. Thank you.
• 42:00
  I. I came up with that.
• 42:02
  I love that. Thank you.
• 42:03
  That's amazing. I saw it in a vision.
• 42:05
  That's it's so good. Well, you know, it's interesting
• 42:08
  because that's what my parents taught me.
• 42:09
  Like my parents are always like, is that a bit?
• 42:13
  That was a bit. Oh my God, I care with you.
• 42:16
  It's Brad's tattoo on his forearm.
• 42:20
  I knew that you were laughing there.
• 42:22
  I was like, there's no way that he had it in the vision.
• 42:27
  The vision gave it away. Oh my God, we don't have AC
• 42:34
  today. So I I really need to I need to
• 42:37
  pull back on the on the bits me love a bit, but you really do
• 42:41
  truly study so much and I feel like that's something that's
• 42:44
  like stop back into that so quickly.
• 42:48
  Oh my God, you really do study so much.
• 42:51
  Like genuinely like. And I love that you were so well
• 42:53
  researched and prepared because I, I do say this, I'm not
• 42:56
  coining it, but luck does favor the prepared.
• 42:59
  And you've had so much fortune in your entertainment career,
• 43:01
  too. Well, thank you.
• 43:03
  I received that. Thank you.
• 43:05
  It's funny because I had this being printed out on by besides
• 43:09
  my besides my bed. That said, luck is when
• 43:13
  opportunity meets those who are prepared.
• 43:16
  Oh I love. That I've just, that's been a
• 43:18
  big, a big thing for me. And also, this industry is a
• 43:21
  marathon, you know, you just have to stay in the race and.
• 43:24
  Keep working hard and I feel like a lot of people give up too
• 43:26
  quickly and soon, which is completely fair.
• 43:28
  This industry like entertainment industry will crush you.
• 43:30
  Oh my. God.
• 43:31
  It will absolutely crush you. Well.
• 43:33
  Yeah, it's it's a lot. I mean, that's why a lot of
• 43:36
  people become addicts and you know, that's the long you know,
• 43:39
  we so many people in any of these industries will addiction
• 43:44
  and it's just hard because of these things, you know, and but.
• 43:49
  And the industry in general and the environment it really it
• 43:52
  calls for especially like it's all over the place.
• 43:54
  And I know when we were at that passes dinner and we're talking
• 43:57
  and you mentioned that you were recently sober.
• 44:00
  Oh yeah. Yeah, so I think that's so
• 44:03
  admirable, especially because like genuinely, in this
• 44:05
  entertainment industry, when you go to the parties, when you go
• 44:07
  to the events, like it's always going to be like it's you're
• 44:10
  surrounded by it. You're surrounded by indulgences
• 44:12
  and vices and people are partaking and like these are
• 44:15
  high stress, high anxiety environments, you know what I
• 44:19
  mean? It's they're so it's so
• 44:21
  stressful. So I yes, it was hard for me at
• 44:26
  the passes dinner and that's why I really appreciate you when I
• 44:28
  said I had to verbalize it because yeah, it's like helps me
• 44:32
  stay. It helps with my accountability.
• 44:35
  And what was it? I got a mocktail afterwards
• 44:38
  immediately. It helped me like I was fine
• 44:40
  afterwards. But it's like, I definitely
• 44:42
  think like the drinking for me started was just because I have
• 44:47
  anxiety. You know, you constantly are
• 44:49
  going out to dinners or going out to premieres or going into
• 44:52
  work events and then. Everyone's perceiving you.
• 44:54
  Yes, and everyone's looking at you and I I get shy.
• 44:58
  And having that crutch too, and then beginning to get reliant on
• 45:01
  it. And I honestly, yeah, you know,
• 45:02
  like I told you about that dinner, like, you know, I really
• 45:05
  admire that you are sober. And it is.
• 45:07
  So it's still challenging and difficult.
• 45:08
  And even though you've been in the industry for as long as you
• 45:11
  have been, it's like still navigating it.
• 45:13
  And this is a brand new journey for you.
• 45:14
  So yeah, how's it for you being pretty much what you've been
• 45:18
  doing your entire career in life, still in the entertainment
• 45:20
  industry, still in Hollywood, but now doing it sober?
• 45:22
  How does that feel? It feels amazing it it.
• 45:26
  Definitely. Thank you.
• 45:28
  Thank you. I definitely am so much more
• 45:31
  productive in so many ways because like after I left the
• 45:34
  dinner, I went home and I edited.
• 45:36
  I did work. Hell yeah, I worked that night
• 45:38
  too on this episode. Yeah, yes.
• 45:42
  So that would have never happened, like never happened
• 45:45
  before. I would have drink like four or
• 45:47
  five drinks. And another thing with Adderall,
• 45:49
  you drink more, you know, And so I would have done like four or
• 45:51
  five drinks at dinner and then I would have been like, let's keep
• 45:53
  drinking and let's go out. Let's keep socializing.
• 45:56
  And I'm such a, I'm a good time, you know?
• 45:58
  Especially like when you got started.
• 46:00
  It's hardest. And.
• 46:01
  It's like we're having a good time.
• 46:02
  This is fellow should be. You know, and we're working a
• 46:05
  little bit. Yeah, one in the morning high,
• 46:08
  you know, and it's just like the next day.
• 46:10
  I'm more sluggish. The the the crashes are worse.
• 46:13
  My body, the there's honestly nothing good for our bodies with
• 46:18
  liquor like there's, it's poisoned on our body.
• 46:20
  I literally was going to say that.
• 46:21
  I always think about that. I'm like, whenever I drink, I'm
• 46:24
  like, I'm quite literally poisoning myself right now.
• 46:26
  Literally just for like a moment of feeling less anxious about
• 46:29
  something or feeling a little more brave about something, you
• 46:32
  know what I mean? Totally.
• 46:33
  And that's where really when I got into therapy this year and
• 46:37
  my whole Wellness journey this past year, I realized, OK, why
• 46:41
  am I doing this? I would smoke a lot of weed,
• 46:44
  then estesize myself. And I knew that.
• 46:46
  But then I was like, OK, the Adderall and the drinking is
• 46:50
  literally because I'm shy and I'm anxious and I need to feel
• 46:54
  like superhuman. And it's just like not good for
• 46:58
  you long term. It's really not good for you.
• 47:00
  And so that was like a big part of why I decided this stuff is
• 47:03
  having some just really affecting my marriage.
• 47:06
  Yeah. And affecting my relationships.
• 47:08
  Yeah. My family.
• 47:10
  Their clarity, my clarity. Trust your gut gets a little
• 47:12
  muddy for sure. Absolutely.
• 47:14
  And also just like it was affecting my career, to be
• 47:18
  honest, it was affecting my. I was having such bad brain fog.
• 47:22
  Yeah, my brain fog was so, so bad.
• 47:25
  Yeah, 'cause then I had to be put on a mood stabilizer.
• 47:27
  Oh my God, That's crazy because of the crashes from it and it's.
• 47:30
  And that's the. It led to a lot of consequences.
• 47:32
  A lot of consequences and especially in the West society,
• 47:35
  we're so quick to just give people pills like, Oh my God,
• 47:38
  you're OK, This is going to solve the problem.
• 47:40
  This is going to, instead of being like, what is the root of
• 47:42
  the problem? You know, and all these things
• 47:45
  have side effects. So it's like, yeah, Adderall
• 47:48
  helps us focus, but then the crash is intense.
• 47:51
  It makes you more anxious and puts your there's all these.
• 47:53
  So you have to outwit kind of go like this.
• 47:56
  So the first step for me was cutting the drinking.
• 47:59
  And then I've I worked with a therapist and a psychiatrist to
• 48:01
  come off the medicine and thank you, thank you.
• 48:05
  So it's great. I I feel like now when I'm out,
• 48:11
  it's just I sometimes have those moments where I'm like, Oh my
• 48:14
  God, I want to, I want to have a drink and it's.
• 48:17
  Important that you verbalize it and also you acknowledge it for
• 48:20
  yourself, too. We are human totally, at the end
• 48:22
  of the day. Yeah.
• 48:23
  So I love that you told me that too.
• 48:25
  And then I was able to support you and like, you know, not that
• 48:28
  you needed me, but it's good to know, you know?
• 48:30
  Yeah, thank you. And you were so supportive.
• 48:33
  You're like, I won't drink. And I'm like, no, no, I want you
• 48:34
  to drink. And I, I want to like talk about
• 48:38
  these things because it's people like Tommy Holland.
• 48:42
  He was on the on purpose a couple years ago with Jay Shetty
• 48:45
  and he talked about how he was sober for a year.
• 48:48
  And I was so because at the, at that moment in time, I was super
• 48:51
  manic. Like I was just partying a lot.
• 48:53
  I would go out and I would party and do drugs.
• 48:56
  Do you feel like that's the culture in LA though?
• 48:57
  Absolutely, Absolutely. You know.
• 49:00
  Like, give me a break, Coachella.
• 49:02
  Like you can go to Coachella and be sober like how I was this
• 49:04
  year. But you know, yes.
• 49:06
  Oh, he was so proud. Of you.
• 49:08
  Thank you. Was it?
• 49:11
  It was more fun this year. So much more fun.
• 49:13
  So much more fun and you're more present.
• 49:14
  Yes, you can enjoy it so much more.
• 49:16
  Yes, and also then I don't like the come downs were just I'm
• 49:20
  very sensitive. So the come downs were just too
• 49:24
  intense for me and I was just was getting really depressed and
• 49:28
  it. Was affecting you deeply.
• 49:30
  Yeah. And I'm I'm just thankful it it
• 49:34
  is interesting. And it's funny because it's like
• 49:36
  identity crisis keeps on coming as I think about like I used to
• 49:39
  wear the mask, the party girl, right?
• 49:41
  That was like my mask I would put on to protect myself and
• 49:45
  like shield myself. And now it's like now the sober
• 49:48
  girl, right? And both of it can have be
• 49:51
  dangerous if that's who you totally are instead of it
• 49:54
  becomes just a part of you. And that's what I'm working on
• 49:57
  right now is just like eventually it it's just a part
• 49:59
  of me. It's like, yeah, I'm sober, but
• 50:01
  it's not all of me. And yeah, I'm excited about this
• 50:06
  journey that I'm on and reconciling, reconciling,
• 50:10
  reconciling with people and situations.
• 50:14
  And I hope to inspire other people too.
• 50:17
  Well, CJ Perry, we already know you are a multi faceted
• 50:20
  individual. So not only with all of your
• 50:22
  talents and everything that you can do and you can do so much,
• 50:25
  but there are different parts of you and they can all coexist.
• 50:30
  And I actually learned that from my new favorite podcast,
• 50:33
  Identity Crisis with CJ Perry and Jonathan Selva.
• 50:36
  Can we talk about your new podcast Identity Crisis?
• 50:38
  Oh my God, thank you. Isn't that good transition?
• 50:43
  Let's talk about your new podcast.
• 50:44
  I fucking love it, guys. Oh my God, It's literally so
• 50:47
  well, can I, can I flex it for a second?
• 50:49
  I would love that. It's so incredibly well done.
• 50:51
  The conversation is so natural and easy and seamless.
• 50:54
  And it's just like a good listen to feel good and also know that
• 50:58
  you were genuinely not alone. And a lot of us go through
• 51:01
  identity crisises. And a lot of us, you know, deal
• 51:03
  with imposter syndrome. A lot of us deal with our
• 51:05
  thoughts and who we are and discovering who we are.
• 51:08
  And it's not always a linear path.
• 51:10
  And that's what I love about your show is hearing it and
• 51:12
  hearing the guests that are on your show talking about it with
• 51:15
  you, hearing your own personal experiences, getting to know CJ
• 51:17
  Perry a little bit more because you were known, you know, so
• 51:20
  well known for being Lana. And now we got to see more CJ
• 51:23
  Perry, which I personally, personally, personally fucking
• 51:26
  love. And her Co host Jonathan is also
• 51:29
  so incredible. It's a great show.
• 51:31
  Oh. My gosh, I'm.
• 51:32
  Highly critical. By the way, guys, I'm highly
• 51:35
  critical. Tell us about Identity Crisis,
• 51:37
  your new podcast. Oh my gosh, thank you for the
• 51:40
  amazing flex for introduction. Gosh, it's about having identity
• 51:45
  crisis. It's also about, it's about so
• 51:49
  much stuff. It's about like I was a
• 51:52
  professional faker on TV, you know, essentially like
• 51:56
  pretending to be a professional wrestler as I'm learning how the
• 51:59
  wrestle on television. And so I think like that's what
• 52:03
  an identity crisis called ultimately is.
• 52:05
  It's like we're constantly trying to pretend to be
• 52:08
  something because we think the world wants it or the the
• 52:12
  constructs that we live in. Our family wants this or the
• 52:15
  Internet wants this. And it might not even be true to
• 52:18
  ourselves. And so that's why we ultimately
• 52:21
  go through through these mental breakdowns or these identity
• 52:24
  crisis or depression or anxiety is because something isn't
• 52:29
  resonating, you know? And so that was kind of like the
• 52:32
  beginning of it, of just talking about my different identity
• 52:37
  crisis. You've got so many identities
• 52:39
  throughout your. Life too.
• 52:40
  And that that's the thing too is like, I've had so many
• 52:44
  different, I feel like lives in my life that I wanted to share
• 52:48
  those different opportunities and talk to people, especially
• 52:52
  people. And I'm not just talking to
• 52:54
  people in the entertainment industry, but in the
• 52:56
  entertainment industry, we have a persona that we put out.
• 52:59
  Even people on social media, they don't realize like even
• 53:02
  yourself, like there's your persona and your public identity
• 53:06
  and then there is your identity. And so also getting to have this
• 53:11
  conversation of who's your public identity and who, who are
• 53:15
  you? And that goes into like even our
• 53:18
  heroes and our healers, you know, our our healers.
• 53:21
  That is like an I want to have my acupuncturist on because I've
• 53:25
  learned so much from her. And she, there's so many things
• 53:29
  like she's helped save my life, you know, and my quality of
• 53:32
  life. And so she has her identity.
• 53:35
  She doesn't really share any of her own story.
• 53:38
  And she's a recovered addict. Also comes from film like so
• 53:41
  interesting. And it's I want to bring on
• 53:44
  people that we can learn from the improve our quality of life.
• 53:48
  And a lot of times we don't know them and their journey like that
• 53:51
  because there are healer, they're our doctor, they're our
• 53:54
  therapist, right? And that's how we see them.
• 53:56
  We compartmentalize them, right? They're our PA, they're our
• 53:59
  producers. Exactly.
• 54:00
  Right, exactly. And also just heroes, you know,
• 54:03
  the, the, the local heroes, the I mean, we don't give enough, we
• 54:06
  don't talk enough about people that help our lives every single
• 54:10
  day. The firefighters, you know,
• 54:12
  yeah, the police, the. I mean, I know that a lot of
• 54:15
  times people are like defund the police, but they also protect
• 54:18
  us, you know, and I just want to have a lot of good conversations
• 54:22
  like how we had and. Being open minded, right?
• 54:25
  Learning from people, learning about their awesome moments in
• 54:29
  life and also their failures. Because the more we part of the
• 54:33
  story, it's all about a part of the story.
• 54:34
  Absolutely. And you love a story.
• 54:35
  I love a story. I love a story and I want to
• 54:38
  hear people's stories. Yeah, and I want to learn from
• 54:41
  their stories. I love hearing their stories and
• 54:43
  your stories on identity crisis. They're such empowering
• 54:46
  conversations and I feel like they make a difference and it is
• 54:48
  so healing. And for me to put in my little
• 54:51
  two cents is I feel like it's so relatable.
• 54:53
  You know, everyone goes to an identity crisis.
• 54:55
  It doesn't matter who you are, right?
• 54:56
  It's not even spanning just in the in the entertainment
• 54:59
  industry. It's also like you said, like
• 55:00
  doctors, firefighters, you know, like you're acupuncturist,
• 55:03
  right? Like people are going through
• 55:05
  things and that's something that I have to learn.
• 55:07
  And I feel like your show is a comfort show and feels good to
• 55:10
  listen to and it feels so healing.
• 55:12
  It was very healing for me. I'm I have some questions about
• 55:15
  the show for you. So I want to know, you know, how
• 55:18
  you spent most of your career being directed, you know, being
• 55:22
  told what stories to tell, what characters to play.
• 55:24
  This is you sitting down saying I'm CJ Perry and I got to tell
• 55:27
  my own story. Now.
• 55:29
  How is that feeling for you and the difference you know?
• 55:32
  Well, that's, that's a really good question.
• 55:34
  Thank you. I like that question too.
• 55:39
  Thank you. Gosh, I, you know, it's
• 55:43
  interesting because I've always wanted to direct.
• 55:45
  I always wanted to produce. I as long as I can remember the
• 55:48
  two things, a couple things I was always doing was bossing the
• 55:52
  neighborhood around to do plays or, and then also charging
• 55:57
  everyone in the neighborhood to come and watch the play.
• 56:00
  So I was always trying to make a dime, like as long as I was
• 56:03
  like. You've been hustling.
• 56:04
  Always, you know, so I'm like, that's a gift.
• 56:06
  Thank you. But also just love, I love
• 56:09
  creating. And so, yeah, I can tell that
• 56:13
  about you. So I think that has always been
• 56:17
  there and I've always been. Even as a dancer, I would be
• 56:19
  choreographing and creating and on and WWE I a lot of people
• 56:25
  don't know there's when I was on the mix Max challenge, I on
• 56:29
  Facebook watch, when Facebook watch this started, we I shot
• 56:33
  all these like training vignettes with my husband and I
• 56:36
  and I would I would shoot it, I would edit it and then I would
• 56:39
  give it to the WWE digital team and they would post it on WWE
• 56:43
  YouTube page and on their Facebook and they all have like
• 56:45
  10, fifteen, 20 million views. And so people don't realize that
• 56:51
  I have been producing. Yeah, that was you.
• 56:54
  You had a heavy hand in that. Yes, yes.
• 56:56
  And I feel. Like there's so much discredit
• 56:58
  when it comes to things like that.
• 56:58
  You're just gonna see the platform and maybe like it was
• 57:01
  this, but it was like, no, you made the initiative and you
• 57:02
  wanted to do that, and now you got to do it on your own terms
• 57:05
  too. On Identity Crisis.
• 57:08
  I'm so excited. I two years ago shot a pilot and
• 57:13
  then with Johnny and I was like, we're not ready yet.
• 57:16
  I need to do my hyper focus, ADHD focus.
• 57:21
  I know that research. Period.
• 57:23
  So I did that for two years and then I'm like, now we're ready.
• 57:26
  Oh, you're beyond ready. What an incredible show.
• 57:29
  And I really do like that because I remember you
• 57:31
  mentioning before in AEW that, you know, they gave you a lot of
• 57:35
  direction and you didn't get a lot of say in what they were
• 57:37
  telling you to do. And, you know, as a performer,
• 57:39
  you perform. Yeah, this is your platform now.
• 57:42
  Yeah, it's so true and. It's so empowering and I think
• 57:45
  the entire story of how this even came about, because the
• 57:47
  first iteration of this podcast with CJ and Johnny was actually
• 57:51
  not Identity Crisis. What's the what's the origin
• 57:54
  story? What's the lore?
• 57:55
  So the first one that we were, it was we wanted to do basically
• 58:01
  this podcast of like VIP access, the traveling to wrestling
• 58:06
  shows. And the tagline was
• 58:09
  rediscovering our love for professional wrestling because
• 58:12
  he's a childhood super fan. And then I became a super fan of
• 58:16
  professional wrestling as an adult and.
• 58:19
  Like, I love wrestling. Yes.
• 58:21
  And so we it was like a year after I'd finished in WWEI
• 58:25
  wasn't back in AW yet and or back at WWE.
• 58:29
  So that was a we were going to different AW shows, WWE shows
• 58:34
  and like all the partying that we would do and we're like this
• 58:38
  is going to make a great podcast, which I'm sure would
• 58:42
  have done great, but I think this is better.
• 58:46
  This direction that you're taking is like truly speaking to
• 58:48
  where you are in your life right now, which is Wellness and
• 58:52
  self-care and also personal growth in your own personal
• 58:55
  journey and sharing. That really makes a difference.
• 58:58
  Even like we said, if it makes a difference to one person, that's
• 59:01
  all that matters. But I just want to let you know
• 59:03
  your show has made a huge difference for me because I was
• 59:05
  in a huge rut and then your show really brought me out of that.
• 59:09
  Thank you. Oh.
• 59:11
  My God, thank you. Your show did the same thing.
• 59:14
  So I, I did a ton of research on I like I was sharing to you
• 59:19
  before I, I just want everyone to know here that I, I the prep
• 59:23
  for your show watched. I think it was 6 episodes out,
• 59:27
  five or six episodes. I had watched all of them.
• 59:31
  It was amazing. I became obsessed with you yes,
• 59:36
  because it just I could tell how hard you work.
• 59:39
  I could tell how you focus on small little details.
• 59:43
  I receiving that's I couldn't believe it actually, and so
• 59:47
  immediately I was like writing down like I want to talk to him
• 59:49
  afterwards because I have all these different.
• 59:52
  Questions. Yeah, I got, I got things to
• 59:54
  say. Thank you so much.
• 59:57
  Yes. And I was really encouraged by
• 59:59
  you. Like I, I think there was a, a
• 1:00:01
  part of me that. This thing is such a marathon
• 1:00:06
  and so when you're and it's wave.
• 1:00:08
  So when you're on a low when you're low and the tide is back
• 1:00:12
  it and the tide is low to be. Discouraged.
• 1:00:14
  It's easy to give. Up yes and the longer you're in
• 1:00:18
  this game the more you start to get in your you're like maybe
• 1:00:19
  I'm too old maybe I'm too this I'm too that I'm too you know
• 1:00:23
  maybe I think I'm smart but I'm not smart you know all these
• 1:00:27
  things and. All variations of an identity
• 1:00:29
  crisis. Yes, absolutely.
• 1:00:32
  And losing this like your purpose almost, you know, easily
• 1:00:37
  it when you take away what you do, it's like, well, what's my
• 1:00:40
  purpose? You know, and I just kind of had
• 1:00:43
  given up of like, even though I'm AWWV legend now, which I'm
• 1:00:47
  so thankful for. I like my dream is to come back
• 1:00:52
  and help my husband become champion and help other people
• 1:00:57
  become champions and become GM of Monday night raw.
• 1:01:01
  And I feel like I had given started to give that up because
• 1:01:05
  I'm like, it might just not happen for me and this other
• 1:01:07
  dreams too. And when I watched your show and
• 1:01:10
  heard all these things that you're talking about,
• 1:01:12
  manifesting and believing and prayer, I just got encouraged
• 1:01:15
  like, you know what? I'm not going to.
• 1:01:17
  I'm not going to give up on that.
• 1:01:18
  And you shouldn't. You can have it all.
• 1:01:20
  There's a reason that you want it.
• 1:01:22
  And what's nice is that you spoke into existence and we have
• 1:01:24
  it right here on camera that you were going to be a general
• 1:01:28
  manager of Monday Night Raw and help Rusev become WWE champion
• 1:01:33
  and have the most viral return in WWE history.
• 1:01:38
  We're manifesting all of that. We'll get more into it later,
• 1:01:40
  but like, honestly, yeah, there are no limits.
• 1:01:42
  There are no limits. And I love that you're stepping
• 1:01:45
  into the delulu of it all because it makes it become true
• 1:01:48
  Lulu. It's true, Lulu, absolutely.
• 1:01:51
  Yay, what? Can you tease any guests that
• 1:01:54
  are on your show? Maybe?
• 1:01:55
  Yes, Oh my gosh, who do we got? So we have a Rousseff, Yes.
• 1:02:01
  And it's actually one of our first episodes that we talk
• 1:02:05
  about our breakup. That's right.
• 1:02:07
  Up for a. While separation, 2023.
• 1:02:10
  Yes. And quite a bit of like the
• 1:02:13
  first maybe 7 or 8 months of 2024, Yeah, we were, we were not
• 1:02:18
  to the fall. We started kind of talking about
• 1:02:20
  getting back together. So we dive into that.
• 1:02:25
  It's a lot of exclusive Lulu. Because we've been wondering
• 1:02:28
  what happened there, you know? So that's love that bit of tea,
• 1:02:35
  Yes. And I, I actually am in shock
• 1:02:37
  that I got to talk about it because he's like, it's not a he
• 1:02:42
  doesn't always like to do media. So it was a big deal.
• 1:02:44
  Totally. And that's what that's why
• 1:02:46
  you're a great manager. Thank you.
• 1:02:48
  You brought that out for him. Thank you.
• 1:02:50
  Thank you. So that I'm really excited about
• 1:02:51
  that we have you were. Really cute in that episode.
• 1:02:53
  By the way, I love the shirt you're wearing.
• 1:02:54
  Where can I get that shirt you're wearing?
• 1:02:57
  His merge. Oh yeah, Erosive Crush.
• 1:03:03
  You can get it on WWE shop, so please go get it.
• 1:03:06
  We will be going yes. So yeah, he's on it.
• 1:03:11
  We have I'm like who else do we have?
• 1:03:14
  We have Ariana or Cameron from WWE, she's on Daria or also
• 1:03:20
  Sonia Deville from former WWE Superstar, which super excited
• 1:03:24
  about that. But Neil, who is AUFC fighter,
• 1:03:27
  who it was phenomenal. Like.
• 1:03:30
  Literally phenomenal. And then we had you so far, too.
• 1:03:34
  Yeah, me. So we have 5 episodes and we are
• 1:03:38
  filming more. Awesome.
• 1:03:39
  Oh my God. And it's like I said, it's
• 1:03:41
  really, really, really great. Everyone, we're going to be
• 1:03:43
  streaming Identity Crisis with CJ Perry and Jonathan Saba 100%
• 1:03:48
  yeah. So and put a review and comment
• 1:03:50
  too please. Yeah, make sure you guys are
• 1:03:52
  leaving a five star review on that show as well.
• 1:03:55
  So actually fun fact, Lulu, both of our podcasts, we share a set.
• 1:04:00
  This is our shared set. Yes, we are pretty much sister
• 1:04:03
  wives, but. Yeah, we are.
• 1:04:05
  And I love it. But yeah, our shows are produced
• 1:04:08
  by passes. And you actually are recently
• 1:04:11
  new passes creator. Yes.
• 1:04:13
  What can your fans find on your passes?
• 1:04:15
  What can we expect for you from you on your passes?
• 1:04:18
  Why should everyone join? Oh my gosh, thank you at.
• 1:04:20
  Cjperry.com Yes. You guys, honestly, I love my
• 1:04:26
  passes because I post a lot. So I I really post kind of how I
• 1:04:30
  used, I'm very active. Yeah, I used, I post on there
• 1:04:33
  kind of how I used to post on Instagram, basically everything
• 1:04:37
  like my whole day I post, I post all behind the scenes to any
• 1:04:42
  events. I also have like a serious
• 1:04:46
  throwback Thursday to a bunch of things in WWE and the locker
• 1:04:51
  room and stories and pictures and unseen content.
• 1:04:54
  A same with AW stuff. Is like the best way to connect
• 1:04:57
  with you deeper and get to know you more outside of identity
• 1:05:00
  crisis of course. And what I love is that I'm able
• 1:05:03
  to, like, directly message you and talk to you.
• 1:05:05
  Yeah. And, like, have that interaction
• 1:05:06
  with you. You know, like if I didn't have
• 1:05:09
  you on the show right now, I would be messaging your near
• 1:05:11
  passes. Yeah, to talk to you and we talk
• 1:05:13
  a lot of wrestling stuff. I live stream over there with
• 1:05:17
  wrestling, but for Monday Night Raw, always also smack down
• 1:05:21
  sometimes and the premium live events all live watch.
• 1:05:25
  We talk about it with the fans. I also give 8 by 10.
• 1:05:28
  What a great community. Yes, incredible. 8 by 10 sign. 8
• 1:05:32
  by 10 in different tiers you get free, 8 by 10 signed and trading
• 1:05:37
  cards and merch signed. Oh my gosh.
• 1:05:40
  So that's on. Different tiers boiling us over
• 1:05:42
  there. I appreciate my OK.
• 1:05:43
  I appreciate you guys. Everyone, we're subscribing to
• 1:05:47
  CJ's passes and you can do that at cjperry.com and besties.
• 1:05:52
  I also have a passes and what you can see on my passes is if
• 1:05:55
  you want to see me being hot and flexible, it is on my passes.
• 1:05:59
  So please also subscribe to my passes E period, MO period TONS.
• 1:06:05
  Well, thank you so much passes for producing both of our shows.
• 1:06:07
  We really do seriously, deeply appreciate it.
• 1:06:10
  Yeah, we do. Well, you give a little bit of T
• 1:06:12
  Lulu on identity crisis. You've been in the industry for
• 1:06:15
  so long. Do you have any hot Goss any T
• 1:06:18
  Lulu for us that you want to share with the delulu besties?
• 1:06:23
  Too much to share I'm. Like I always have tea that
• 1:06:27
  might be oh, I am going to have I actually should share this for
• 1:06:30
  sure on cjperry.com. If you subscribe to the podcast
• 1:06:34
  here, there is exclusive on the podcast here over sharing with
• 1:06:38
  CJ Perry. And but you have to subscribe to
• 1:06:41
  that to get the over sharing with CJ Perry and that's
• 1:06:43
  honestly where you will get tea. Oh, 'cause you be gapping, girl.
• 1:06:47
  I love a good stirring the cup. Oh, OK.
• 1:06:52
  Like I I can't. Help.
• 1:06:53
  That's where we're going to get the real T Lulu.
• 1:06:55
  Hell yeah. OK, I'm a I'm a.
• 1:06:58
  Join that to your girl, period. I love the little giggle.
• 1:07:00
  You a little menace. Oh, my gosh.
• 1:07:03
  OK, well, because you shared that T Lulu with me, I'm going
• 1:07:06
  to share my T Lulu with you. OK.
• 1:07:08
  OK, CJ, you're going to have to help me.
• 1:07:10
  So I just got this sent in this morning to the De Lulu PR team.
• 1:07:15
  Oh my God the Delulu Daily has just been on my ass.
• 1:07:19
  Which is the DCU delulu cinematic universes version of a
• 1:07:22
  tabloid essentially. ATMZ did.
• 1:07:24
  You start this. Oh yeah, we're in a world right
• 1:07:30
  now, girl. But.
• 1:07:32
  Yeah, they just released another fucking article about me.
• 1:07:35
  I haven't read it yet, but I did keep your name on it.
• 1:07:37
  And could you just read it to me so we could see what's going on
• 1:07:41
  here? I I haven't seen it yet, but
• 1:07:44
  this is. This is the delulu.
• 1:07:46
  This is the Delulu Daily. Oh my God, I'm scared.
• 1:07:49
  So this is a tabloid about me and CJI did glance at the
• 1:07:53
  headline. It stressed me out a little bit.
• 1:07:54
  But I was like, CJ is coming on the show today.
• 1:07:56
  So let's let's just squash it. Let's clear up any rumors.
• 1:07:59
  OK, let's do it. Am I reading all of this?
• 1:08:01
  Yeah. Hello.
• 1:08:02
  Yeah, OK. Delulu Daily exclusive secret
• 1:08:07
  feud brewing between Delulu host Ryan Liu and Identity Crisis
• 1:08:13
  star CJ Perry. Brad, did you know about this?
• 1:08:17
  Oh my God, what did they say? Secret Feud.
• 1:08:21
  Oh my God. What is it?
• 1:08:23
  Is there a feud brewing between The Delulu podcast host Ryan Liu
• 1:08:27
  and Identity Crisis host CJ Perry due to sharing a set?
• 1:08:34
  Yeah. Oh my God.
• 1:08:37
  I mean, you, you do be booking on the days I want to shoot,
• 1:08:40
  I've noticed, but I wouldn't say I was ever upset about that.
• 1:08:43
  The word on the street is that the tension is stirring things
• 1:08:47
  up at Passes headquarters. Not the HQ.
• 1:08:50
  Oh my gosh, the HQ. What started as a friendly
• 1:08:53
  competition has allegedly spiraled into side eyes due to
• 1:08:57
  scheduling confluence and guest overlap tension.
• 1:09:03
  Sources say. The two avoid interaction.
• 1:09:07
  I mean, yeah, I just, I don't know what to tell you, but I
• 1:09:11
  need you to leave right now. The law.
• 1:09:13
  Has flipped out. Yes, and maybe I should start.
• 1:09:16
  Someone always leaves utterly the set early when they're
• 1:09:22
  booked on the same day. Fans even clocked Ryan posting
• 1:09:26
  unhinged shady insta stories. And Lana of course didn't hold
• 1:09:32
  back obviously stating I built empires and stilettos and they
• 1:09:40
  tight bun. But if this turns out physical,
• 1:09:45
  I am aggressive and I will literally break your spine.
• 1:09:50
  A direct threat here. Onto Lulu.
• 1:09:52
  That's on. Camera With both podcasts
• 1:09:55
  rising, we might be heading toward the first ever podcast
• 1:10:00
  crossover fight and Lana is already lacing up her boots.
• 1:10:06
  Much crash you. I'm not scared of you, Lana.
• 1:10:10
  Well, you should be. Let's do it now.
• 1:10:13
  Let's Duke it out. We'll clear the set.
• 1:10:15
  Do you want clear my set? Body slam you right now, I will
• 1:10:18
  do it. OK, let's clear my set.
• 1:10:21
  CJ. My set is a Lulu.
• 1:10:24
  Set No. I have some respect right now.
• 1:10:28
  OK, well, let's clear the rumors up.
• 1:10:33
  Yes, it's true. CJ Perry and I do share a set.
• 1:10:38
  Oh. My God.
• 1:10:39
  I had a little identity crisis when I came in to do your show
• 1:10:43
  because I was like, oh, I'm ready to film the Lulu.
• 1:10:46
  And my props weren't here. I didn't see my pillows, my Dulu
• 1:10:51
  bears and I, I felt, I felt a type of way.
• 1:10:55
  I don't know who leaked that story.
• 1:10:56
  I suspect it was Brett, but. Brett, I will break you 2 in
• 1:11:02
  half. Mainly him to be honest.
• 1:11:05
  It's all his fault. But it is all love here at
• 1:11:08
  Tululu and honestly, like I said, CJ and her sister wives.
• 1:11:12
  No beef, no drama here. Oh, that's a side eye.
• 1:11:22
  K fave don't tell anyone. Oh TT new wrestling word for
• 1:11:26
  everyone. K fave means it's a secret.
• 1:11:29
  Don't. Break character.
• 1:11:31
  OK, well, I'm popping for that. Yeah, I've learned a lot on
• 1:11:37
  Identity Crisis. Yes, another wrestling word.
• 1:11:40
  And I brought it with me in my life now.
• 1:11:42
  Well, no BCJ, how do we feel? I mean.
• 1:11:47
  Oh, should we work it out? What's the What's?
• 1:11:52
  The I mean you have no chance to stand against me, so good luck.
• 1:11:55
  I mean, it was my step. First eat some eggs and do some
• 1:11:59
  pushups and then we will fight. OK, I actually have people who
• 1:12:04
  do that for me. So Brett, eat some eggs and do
• 1:12:07
  some pushups. No, no, no.
• 1:12:12
  I love you. I.
• 1:12:12
  Love it. You love us.
• 1:12:14
  Oh my God, I'm so sorry. They're just.
• 1:12:16
  You know how the? You know how the?
• 1:12:18
  Press Internet. You know how the tabloids?
• 1:12:19
  Are I know it's like we're Jessica Simpson in 2004.
• 1:12:22
  It feels like it. It really feels like it.
• 1:12:24
  Oh my gosh, that was crazy. We.
• 1:12:26
  Can't get the paparazzi us like off like Justin.
• 1:12:30
  Literally. Us, they're just following us.
• 1:12:32
  It's they're hounding us. They're actually outside the set
• 1:12:34
  right now. My set OK.
• 1:12:37
  So we. Have a segment here on delulu
• 1:12:39
  that we're going to play with you and my bestie Lulu's would
• 1:12:42
  love to get a little bit more CJ.
• 1:12:44
  So we're going to be playing oh Lana Brett can handle that CJ
• 1:12:51
  right now though, so we're going to play WWADGD, which is our
• 1:12:55
  segment here on delulu. What would a delulu girl do?
• 1:12:59
  My bestie Lulu's over at my passes.
• 1:13:01
  Besties have submitted their questions, concerns, dilemmas
• 1:13:05
  and they would love our delulu advice on it.
• 1:13:07
  It could be serious or it could be delulu.
• 1:13:10
  We just want to hear what you would do in these situations.
• 1:13:13
  Are you ready? I love it.
• 1:13:14
  Let's go. OK, so bestie Lulu number one.
• 1:13:19
  You know what? I'll just admit it for the
• 1:13:21
  messiness. This is my question.
• 1:13:22
  I have a crush on my therapist. He's stressing me out but I
• 1:13:26
  can't talk about it to my therapist because he is my
• 1:13:28
  therapist. What do I do?
• 1:13:30
  That one was me. I submitted that one.
• 1:13:33
  Wow. Oh my gosh.
• 1:13:34
  Wait, so. He watches the show.
• 1:13:35
  Oh. My gosh, that's wait, this is
• 1:13:37
  amazing actually. So for real this is a for real
• 1:13:39
  question. I have a crush on him but in
• 1:13:41
  like a daddy way. He's like so fatherly to me and
• 1:13:43
  he's like so like caring and nurturing and he really listens
• 1:13:47
  to me and like gives me a vice and is a therapist.
• 1:13:50
  So I do have a little crush on him.
• 1:13:54
  I just had a therapy session with him literally 2 days ago
• 1:13:56
  and I swear to God I thought I saw him on.
• 1:13:59
  I thought I saw him on Grinder. I thought I saw him on Grinder.
• 1:14:02
  And I asked him and I was like blank therapist name.
• 1:14:06
  I think I saw you on Grinder. Was this you?
• 1:14:08
  He had the same age as you and he looks like you.
• 1:14:10
  And then he was like no. And I was like, OK, I think I
• 1:14:14
  believe, I believe you. I do.
• 1:14:15
  But then I was like, in my head, I was like, I wouldn't have
• 1:14:18
  minded. Feeling you.
• 1:14:20
  What would you do CJ? What should I do in this
• 1:14:23
  situation? Can't talk about my therapist
• 1:14:24
  because he's my therapist and have a crush on him.
• 1:14:28
  So what do you do if you have a crush on your therapist?
• 1:14:32
  Yes, what should I do? I have a crush on my therapist
• 1:14:34
  but I can't talk about it's my therapist because he's my
• 1:14:36
  therapist. Oh my gosh.
• 1:14:38
  What should I do, CJ? I don't know what you should do.
• 1:14:41
  What would Lana do? Crush him like.
• 1:14:46
  Would tell her therapist right now.
• 1:14:50
  She would literally say I know I should not say this and don't
• 1:14:54
  tell anyone but I have big crush on you.
• 1:14:58
  I kind of like that I'm actually a big, big believer in telling
• 1:15:01
  people if you like them and like being clear of your intentions.
• 1:15:04
  I I do like that. I just feel like cuz he's my
• 1:15:06
  therapist shouldn't. It's not that big of a crush by
• 1:15:09
  the way. Like it's very cutesy and tame.
• 1:15:12
  Oh, OK. I mean, I would, CJ definitely
• 1:15:15
  would not in that setting, you know, But I have always was that
• 1:15:23
  girl for sure. If I had a crush on someone, I
• 1:15:24
  went after them. Really.
• 1:15:26
  Yeah, I was. Definitely did.
• 1:15:27
  You find yourself chasing like your interests, like you know,
• 1:15:31
  going after them, pursuing. Them chasing is the right word
• 1:15:34
  because like once I like chasing for a relationship.
• 1:15:38
  Absolutely not because I'm just like I, I just don't chase
• 1:15:44
  relationships. Oh yeah, and none of us chase.
• 1:15:46
  We attract. Exactly period and a purr but if
• 1:15:51
  I have a crush on someone like not now but like prior and my
• 1:15:56
  husband prior to Miro, if I had a crush I would just like
• 1:16:01
  definitely go let it be known like go after.
• 1:16:04
  It me too actually. I notoriously tell my crushes I
• 1:16:06
  have a crush on them. Yeah, totally.
• 1:16:08
  I would definitely pursue it and then I let it.
• 1:16:10
  Like been on the therapist situation.
• 1:16:12
  Yeah, now that's. A little complicated.
• 1:16:14
  OK, besties, what would you do? Leave a comment.
• 1:16:16
  Oh, yeah. Let us know.
• 1:16:18
  Yeah. Where am I doing the therapy?
• 1:16:19
  Yeah. Just like in his bedroom.
• 1:16:22
  I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
• 1:16:24
  I'm just kidding. No, it's it's through my.
• 1:16:27
  It's through Kaiser. It's like my health thing.
• 1:16:28
  Yeah. I'm like.
• 1:16:29
  If it was better help, you could just change this.
• 1:16:32
  No, I need him so bad. So if you happen to be watching
• 1:16:35
  this, disregard it. Anyways, so we have another
• 1:16:40
  situation here and this one is not mine.
• 1:16:43
  So this is from anonymous bestie Lulu on my past this community.
• 1:16:46
  I'm trying to unfriend this girl but she literally shows up
• 1:16:49
  everywhere I go and I swear she's stalking me, what do I do?
• 1:16:53
  Oh, that's a hard one because I have a friend like that too.
• 1:16:56
  No way. Yeah, and we do.
• 1:16:58
  I just keep it neutral. That's good.
• 1:17:04
  Because this is the, yeah, this is the thing.
• 1:17:07
  It's like, is the person dramatic?
• 1:17:09
  You know, like. Or they were doing too much.
• 1:17:11
  Yeah, because if the person that is pursuing you is drama, they
• 1:17:14
  could create a much, much worse headache if you're like, I don't
• 1:17:19
  want to be friends with you. A. 100% because then they're
• 1:17:21
  going to blow it up and they're going to make a big deal.
• 1:17:22
  I completely agree with that. It's a delicate situation, yes.
• 1:17:25
  And sometimes I'm impersonal, you know what I mean?
• 1:17:27
  For sure. Yeah, I I have a friend I'm not
• 1:17:29
  going to go too in detail about. It name them right now, you'll
• 1:17:33
  get that on the 3rd tier of CJ Perry's passes.
• 1:17:39
  So yeah, it just has to be so many times.
• 1:17:41
  I just want to turn to this person and go, I'm I can't be
• 1:17:43
  your friend anymore. Like, please, this is not
• 1:17:46
  working for me. And for about 20-9 different
• 1:17:49
  reasons. But then I'm like, no, that's
• 1:17:52
  what that person would do. And this person loves drama and
• 1:17:54
  this person. Would tell this.
• 1:17:55
  Exactly. So exactly so just like, be nice
• 1:18:01
  and cordial and keep it moving. You're busy.
• 1:18:03
  Period. You're too busy for that exactly
• 1:18:05
  and you don't want to focus on it.
• 1:18:06
  I guess that's my advice too keep it neutral because you
• 1:18:08
  don't want to blow it up. You don't want to make it
• 1:18:09
  sensationalized and you know people are capable of being
• 1:18:13
  people is totally what I have to say about that.
• 1:18:15
  Keep it neutral. I completely agree with you on
• 1:18:17
  that totally. So we have one more from another
• 1:18:20
  anonymous bestie, Lulu in my past this community, they ask my
• 1:18:24
  boyfriend's roommate keeps explicitly hitting on me.
• 1:18:27
  What do I do? I I've been in that.
• 1:18:31
  Situation What? Would you?
• 1:18:38
  Do I get you? That is, we've been in that
• 1:18:42
  place. Before Oh my.
• 1:18:43
  God, Oh, yeah, yeah. I was in a really awkward
• 1:18:47
  situation recently where a wife's.
• 1:18:50
  I didn't know these people very well.
• 1:18:51
  I was at my friend's birthday party and the wife's husband was
• 1:18:54
  hitting on me every single time. She would just like leave his
• 1:18:58
  side like could be like right over there by the door would be
• 1:19:03
  like openly hitting on me and I was like, this is very weird.
• 1:19:07
  You know, again, I what are you supposed like?
• 1:19:11
  What am I supposed to go tell the wife?
• 1:19:12
  And then all the drama breaks out, you know, because.
• 1:19:15
  There's no perfect answer for that because it creates
• 1:19:17
  situations. I would avoid at all costs.
• 1:19:20
  Like that's it. I don't know.
• 1:19:23
  It just can get really, even when I've told my husband
• 1:19:25
  before, like, hey, this guy was hitting on me.
• 1:19:27
  Like maybe we worked with some people.
• 1:19:29
  And especially when we were like on and off, you know, and people
• 1:19:34
  knew we were like on and off or we're broken up.
• 1:19:37
  A lot of guys that he worked with would hit on me and slide
• 1:19:42
  in my DMS and I just you didn't want to.
• 1:19:50
  No, OK. And one or two of them I might
• 1:19:54
  have told my husband, and that did not go over well.
• 1:19:57
  Oh my God, blame. It on me and so no he.
• 1:20:00
  Didn't. Yeah.
• 1:20:01
  So, but you didn't initiate No, no, no, no, no.
• 1:20:04
  So that's where I'm like, I feel like.
• 1:20:08
  It's such a like a grey zone. Situation because sometimes like
• 1:20:12
  I, we always have to put ourselves in the other person's
• 1:20:14
  shoes. So like put yourself in your
• 1:20:15
  boy, the boyfriend, your boyfriend's shoes or my
• 1:20:18
  husband's shoes. Like if he was like, hey, this
• 1:20:20
  girl's hitting on me, I would maybe be pissed at like, are you
• 1:20:23
  giving a reason? You know, I do try to understand
• 1:20:25
  like. You want to have empathy?
• 1:20:27
  Totally 100%. And so that's where I just kind
• 1:20:30
  of like now if someone is hitting on me or giving me not
• 1:20:34
  even this like a weird, like there's a just again, my
• 1:20:38
  instinct isn't really resonating with this.
• 1:20:40
  I just avoid that person. You know, like you just have to
• 1:20:43
  remove your situation and you have to tell that person too.
• 1:20:46
  Like you have to tell that person stop doing this.
• 1:20:49
  Acknowledging it. Is weird and it's inappropriate
• 1:20:53
  and it's disrespectful and if you do it again I will have to
• 1:20:56
  tell my. Oh my God, you were so evolved
• 1:20:59
  and mature. I love that answer.
• 1:21:01
  Like very very very like. Well thought through.
• 1:21:04
  Am IA bad person? If I say that I would like that
• 1:21:08
  attention is that terrible of me?
• 1:21:13
  I'd be like, hey babe, can I come over?
• 1:21:18
  I'm half kidding, I'm half kidding.
• 1:21:20
  I'm half. Kidding.
• 1:21:21
  Only half. Though only half because you
• 1:21:24
  know what? We're the the Brett Ryan
• 1:21:26
  blackmail jar is just filling. OK, I'm I'm half joking.
• 1:21:34
  I don't know what I would do but.
• 1:21:36
  You're honest with that? You like the attention?
• 1:21:37
  I do like, yeah, I mean, I am, I'm going to be honest about
• 1:21:40
  that. I would like the attention.
• 1:21:41
  I think it would, like, tickle me, but I don't think I would
• 1:21:43
  act on it and I really wouldn't do anything about that.
• 1:21:45
  And honestly, it comes down to the situation was like, I'm not
• 1:21:48
  hitting on my boyfriend's roommate.
• 1:21:49
  My boyfriend's roommate is hitting on me.
• 1:21:52
  You know what I mean? So I feel like I'm absolved from
• 1:21:54
  responsibility from that, you know?
• 1:21:56
  I agree with you completely. I do the like.
• 1:21:59
  This is something with straight men, I don't know how it is with
• 1:22:04
  other men. All men are the same.
• 1:22:07
  Well, I do think like straight men and This is why no means yes
• 1:22:11
  is a terrible name because if you do just like that, like you
• 1:22:16
  don't say anything. They're going to keep pounding.
• 1:22:17
  They think it's no means yes. Oh my gosh.
• 1:22:21
  Not the iconic girl group from the late 2000s.
• 1:22:25
  Oh my gosh. And we know how that turned out.
• 1:22:33
  OK, set at the boundary. You're really saying like stand
• 1:22:36
  on that so. It's interesting because a lot
• 1:22:37
  of my gay guy friends who are married, they have no problem.
• 1:22:41
  Like if they have bring some guy friends over and one's getting
• 1:22:44
  hit on like they'll end up doing, they'll end up like they
• 1:22:49
  live in their best life and. Oh my God, it's also a little
• 1:22:51
  bit. Different, I think maybe that.
• 1:22:53
  This is a it's so many, it's so nuanced, like it's a nuanced
• 1:22:56
  question. There's so many layers.
• 1:22:57
  It's a situation. It's who's this roommate?
• 1:22:58
  Like who is this boyfriend to you?
• 1:23:00
  Like there's so much to get. The dynamic of that everyone's
• 1:23:03
  dynamic is different a. 100% and maybe it could be appropriate or
• 1:23:06
  maybe it could be something that needs to be discussed.
• 1:23:08
  I think, I guess realistic, Lulu, it comes out of
• 1:23:10
  communication, maybe talking about a boyfriend and if it is
• 1:23:13
  something that makes you uncomfortable, you know what I
• 1:23:15
  mean? Like definitely express.
• 1:23:16
  I want to express it to the boyfriend, you know what I mean?
• 1:23:18
  Like at the very least they can talk about it with the roommate
• 1:23:21
  or something of the sort. I just think when my encounters
• 1:23:24
  like going and talking to my significant other often like it
• 1:23:29
  causes more drama than me or that person.
• 1:23:32
  If they have a significant drama a like significant other, if
• 1:23:36
  they find out it causes more drama instead of like literally
• 1:23:39
  talking to the source and being like hey a. 100%.
• 1:23:42
  So that's like, if you really want to like cut it, there's
• 1:23:47
  something I was going to say about this.
• 1:23:49
  I totally forgot. Oh, but this is like a much
• 1:23:51
  better, bigger subject. I I sometimes wonder if
• 1:23:55
  heterosexual relationships unless it isn't fully open
• 1:23:59
  relationship, which is It happens but not as common I
• 1:24:03
  think versus like my friend is actually she's my publicist and
• 1:24:08
  she's gay, but she's in a Polygon.
• 1:24:12
  Is that a right word? I believe you.
• 1:24:14
  I don't know Poly. Relationship.
• 1:24:15
  Yeah, polyamorous, Polyamorous. Polyamorous.
• 1:24:19
  Paulie Kewell. OK, Paulie, don't.
• 1:24:22
  We believe you, Paulie Kewell. Relationship where she's
• 1:24:26
  actually married, her girlfriend is married to a man and he like
• 1:24:33
  is able, he's allowed to like go hook up with other people and
• 1:24:35
  then she has a girlfriend and that's my publicist and they
• 1:24:41
  have a full on relationship and then like sometimes they all
• 1:24:43
  hook up and it's very interesting.
• 1:24:45
  I love that for them. So sick.
• 1:24:47
  I love the forms of love and like, you know what?
• 1:24:49
  Like one thing I really loved. I think it's amazing.
• 1:24:53
  I never heard of like, never knew someone that close.
• 1:24:55
  That was I'm like, tell me all about it.
• 1:24:57
  Oh, 100% give me the T Lulu on that.
• 1:25:00
  I think like that's such an interesting topic for me just in
• 1:25:02
  relationships in general and sexuality.
• 1:25:03
  And we don't even have to get into it because I could really
• 1:25:05
  get into it. But what I loved when I was
• 1:25:06
  studying psychology was human sexuality.
• 1:25:09
  And it's just like so deeply nuanced and it's not black and
• 1:25:12
  white, but I think people like to believe it's black and white,
• 1:25:15
  which complicate complicates things and I think it can lead
• 1:25:19
  to an identity crisis. You know what I mean?
• 1:25:21
  So there's there's a lot that goes into that.
• 1:25:24
  That's a really interesting bit though.
• 1:25:26
  Yeah. Oh my gosh.
• 1:25:27
  OK, that's TTT. Well, you might.
• 1:25:30
  You might need to have an exclusive podcast for your
• 1:25:34
  passes. Absolutely.
• 1:25:35
  When we get funding for that, then yes, I would, I would
• 1:25:38
  happily, happily do that. I love, I love creating.
• 1:25:44
  So if anyone wants to fund that, yes, I'm very open to it.
• 1:25:48
  OK, well CJI, ask every guest on every show.
• 1:25:53
  I want to know what is your most delulu take?
• 1:25:57
  What do you got for us? I'm pretty delulu.
• 1:25:59
  I got some. I got some delulu up in here.
• 1:26:01
  Wow. Let's see Delulu like just
• 1:26:05
  anything. It could be silly,
• 1:26:06
  controversial, serious, it could be anything really.
• 1:26:10
  What's delulu for you, Lulu? Like a delulu opinion anything.
• 1:26:15
  Oh my God. It might not even be delulu.
• 1:26:17
  I might agree with you, OK. Gosh, let's see.
• 1:26:21
  I don't know. I don't believe in aliens.
• 1:26:28
  I don't think that's not the Lulu.
• 1:26:30
  Actually, it's a Lulu. I fully believe in aliens.
• 1:26:32
  Really. We're the aliens.
• 1:26:35
  Is this a bit? No, we're the aliens.
• 1:26:36
  We're the aliens. Who are the people or who's not
• 1:26:38
  the aliens? Well, what are people?
• 1:26:40
  It's not a bit. It's not a bit, but it's a
• 1:26:42
  little introspective, Lulu. Like we're, we're the aliens,
• 1:26:44
  you know what I mean? Like, we are aliens.
• 1:26:47
  Yeah. Everyone's an alien.
• 1:26:48
  Like, not even in, like, in any way where it's like they're
• 1:26:50
  foreign things. But like, you got to think about
• 1:26:52
  it, like, think about the world and the universe as a whole,
• 1:26:55
  right? There's so much out there.
• 1:26:57
  And to a different planet, to a different like.
• 1:27:00
  I mean what is aliens? Is it on other?
• 1:27:02
  Something foreign, I suppose. Like something alien, you know
• 1:27:05
  what I mean? So foreign in a different area.
• 1:27:07
  It could be. I mean, there's so many.
• 1:27:09
  There's so much nuance to that. I know I'm about to have an
• 1:27:11
  identity crisis y'all, and we'll talk about it on your show.
• 1:27:17
  I believe in aliens though. I feel like I have a hard time
• 1:27:20
  believing in aliens like men and black aliens, you know, like
• 1:27:24
  Independence Day aliens where it's like they come down and
• 1:27:27
  space ships and they're these crazy creatures and stuff.
• 1:27:31
  Like I just it's like one of those things of how a lot of
• 1:27:34
  people, not a lot of people, but some people are agnostic where
• 1:27:37
  they're like I'll believe in God when he shows himself.
• 1:27:39
  Like that's how I believe in aliens.
• 1:27:40
  Like I do believe there is there has to be more lifeout there as.
• 1:27:44
  I say you don't think there's like more out there?
• 1:27:46
  I definitely believe like, since I am so spiritual and I do
• 1:27:50
  believe in a higher power, I absolutely believe that there is
• 1:27:53
  so much more than we can even comprehend with our brains out
• 1:27:56
  there. Absolutely.
• 1:27:57
  Even in this world that we're on, you know, like 75% of the
• 1:28:00
  oceans aren't even explored. That's so crazy.
• 1:28:02
  They are the aliens. Yeah, yeah, for.
• 1:28:04
  Sure, absolutely. So that I'm like, I, I think is
• 1:28:06
  really cool with Elon Musk, like with his like his, his quest to
• 1:28:10
  get the bars, you know, I think it's that quest to be explorers
• 1:28:16
  and adventure. That's how you know it's so
• 1:28:19
  important. That makes so much sense for you
• 1:28:20
  because you genuinely are someone who is a student and you
• 1:28:24
  like to learn and like you're so curious about everything and you
• 1:28:26
  want to learn more about everything.
• 1:28:27
  I am. So curious.
• 1:28:28
  Well, we'll find out. Maybe we'll get to Mars and
• 1:28:31
  then. Yeah, there's a bunch of living
• 1:28:34
  things there that would be so cool though, and.
• 1:28:36
  Then we'll find out exactly. And then then we'll agree that
• 1:28:40
  aliens are real. OK, we'll revisit.
• 1:28:43
  We'll revisit this. OK, we're going to play a quick
• 1:28:46
  game here. This is a rapid fire one.
• 1:28:48
  This is our game claim or rebuke.
• 1:28:52
  Claim is you accept, rebuke is you reject, you don't want it.
• 1:28:55
  Claim is like you do want it. So I'm going to wrap fire some
• 1:28:57
  topics. You can give contacts to your
• 1:28:58
  answers or you can just answer. OK, OK.
• 1:29:01
  So my first one here is I want you to claim or rebuke between
• 1:29:06
  AEW or WWE. You have gone on before to state
• 1:29:10
  that they are very different even though similar similar.
• 1:29:14
  You said AEW is more match driven and WWE is more
• 1:29:17
  performance driven and you just like being a storyteller.
• 1:29:20
  Which one of those two are you going to claim or which one is
• 1:29:23
  are you going to rebuke? Oh, got you.
• 1:29:28
  Good. OK, what did I say that AW was?
• 1:29:34
  I said it was that. Quote from CJ Berry AEW is more
• 1:29:38
  match driven and WWE is more performance driven, but you
• 1:29:44
  prefer storytelling as a driving force when it comes to either of
• 1:29:48
  those. Claim.
• 1:29:52
  You're going to claim. Absolutely.
• 1:29:53
  Claim I Absolutely, I believe story's everything and I think
• 1:29:57
  that's a big part of what lacks it's.
• 1:29:59
  A big part of your story, too, yeah, People connect with.
• 1:30:01
  Story, you know. Would you have a preference
• 1:30:03
  between AW and WWE? Can you say?
• 1:30:07
  I prefer WWE. Period.
• 1:30:09
  And that makes sense because you actually had one of the most
• 1:30:11
  viral comebacks in WWE ever. I'm claiming it.
• 1:30:15
  It's yours, period. Claiming that for you.
• 1:30:17
  Too. OK, you can only claim one
• 1:30:20
  performance medium for the rest of your life.
• 1:30:22
  For the rest of your career, meaning acting, singing, break
• 1:30:26
  dancing, you do everything. You have to choose one that you
• 1:30:29
  have to stick to for the rest of your career.
• 1:30:32
  That's not a claim or a rebuke, though.
• 1:30:34
  You're claiming 1. Oh, got you.
• 1:30:36
  I'm not saying claim. I have to say the thing that I'm
• 1:30:38
  claiming. The one that you're choosing,
• 1:30:40
  Yeah. Oh my God.
• 1:30:44
  I know, huh? That's a hard one Got.
• 1:30:46
  You good because you love so many things.
• 1:30:51
  Oh. Gosh, you're starting a new
• 1:30:55
  venture as a host. What would you want to do that
• 1:30:58
  for the rest of your career? Oh my God, I I don't even know
• 1:31:02
  what to say. OK, we can't decide.
• 1:31:05
  We can. We can.
• 1:31:07
  We can like. Produce probably.
• 1:31:10
  Oh, really? Yeah, you've actually mentioned
• 1:31:11
  that that you wanted to get into producing and directing too.
• 1:31:14
  Producing or directing that? Makes a lot of sense.
• 1:31:16
  I like that too. Because it could be anywhere
• 1:31:19
  too. You could produce direct and
• 1:31:21
  wrestling and WWE. And.
• 1:31:23
  AW, you could probably. Still, all these different
• 1:31:26
  avenues that you like when it comes to entertaining.
• 1:31:28
  Yes, OK. You can be in it.
• 1:31:30
  You can produce and be in it, or you can and not always be in it,
• 1:31:34
  which is great because there's a ton of things that I would want
• 1:31:37
  to produce that I would maybe not be right to be in it.
• 1:31:40
  Right. But I would be please cast me.
• 1:31:43
  Yay. OK, you're going to claim or
• 1:31:46
  rebuke one of these two options. Are you claiming or rebuking
• 1:31:51
  being hot or being flexible? Definitely claiming being
• 1:31:57
  flexible. Really claiming being hot.
• 1:32:00
  Sorry to my lovers, OK? So.
• 1:32:04
  Are you going to claim or rebuke the rock?
• 1:32:08
  Rebuke. No, I I will claim him, but I
• 1:32:11
  will much crush you. What's the T Lulu on that?
• 1:32:14
  What's the beef with the rock? Well.
• 1:32:16
  He actually that's really funny because Oh my God, funny story.
• 1:32:20
  So we had a in 2014 epic, epic segment with him where he we
• 1:32:27
  didn't even know we were doing our segment with the Rock.
• 1:32:30
  They gave us paper, told us that, told I learned this whole
• 1:32:33
  promo and everything. And then they're like 7:15 meet
• 1:32:36
  by this bus backstage. We go, they're like, OK, come
• 1:32:40
  into the bus, we're going to practice this segment and
• 1:32:41
  they're like, OK, walk in The Rock is there Dwayne Johnson and
• 1:32:46
  they're like, sorry, this is new segment.
• 1:32:49
  And so and mind you, half the segment we did on the fly out
• 1:32:52
  there, he was like, follow my lead.
• 1:32:53
  It was insane, the most insane experience.
• 1:32:56
  Like it was so electrifying. They call him the most
• 1:32:59
  electrifying superstar, WWE superstar in the world.
• 1:33:02
  And truly like I was getting goosebumps being in the middle
• 1:33:06
  of the arena with all the people in the chance.
• 1:33:08
  It was insane. So anyways, he called me a
• 1:33:12
  street Walker. Why?
• 1:33:13
  Because I was hot. And flexible.
• 1:33:16
  Period. So then he came back about a
• 1:33:19
  year ago, a year later, a year and a half later and ran like I
• 1:33:23
  was engaged to my real life husband.
• 1:33:25
  And he, the segment was basically him calling me out
• 1:33:29
  that he we did a bunch of like wheel bearers, wheel, wheel.
• 1:33:33
  Wheelbarrows. Wheel wheel barrels,
• 1:33:37
  Wheelbarrows. Wheelbarrows.
• 1:33:39
  Wheelbarrows good. Word for alma.
• 1:33:42
  Yeah, wheelbarrows and all these other flexible moves in his
• 1:33:45
  hotel room after that last time we met.
• 1:33:49
  And then my husband appears. It was a really funny segment,
• 1:33:53
  but for some reason him and many other people in WWE, the guys,
• 1:33:58
  because I was such a villain and they can't hit women and
• 1:34:02
  wrestling anymore. They the only way that they can
• 1:34:05
  get their zinger, their comeback is, you know, the dish you this
• 1:34:09
  the woman and it is professional wrestling.
• 1:34:12
  So slut shaming would be a very easy reward.
• 1:34:16
  Like the whole crowd would chant and you know, just is what it
• 1:34:21
  is. So that was kind of like my
• 1:34:23
  husband and I like really, it was a built up thing and I was
• 1:34:27
  coming and I remember the Internet even writing about us
• 1:34:30
  numerous amounts of times because roses would fight
• 1:34:33
  matches in my honor. And they're like, why are we
• 1:34:36
  booing this married couple that are always together?
• 1:34:41
  And literally he fights to protect her and fights in her
• 1:34:44
  honor, and they're the bad guys, you know?
• 1:34:46
  And it's like, that's crazy. And so then when he went to AW,
• 1:34:50
  he started the right promos talking about his hot, flexible
• 1:34:53
  wife. And he was fighting for his hot,
• 1:34:55
  flexible wife. There we go, changing the
• 1:34:57
  narrative. It all came from the rock I
• 1:34:58
  guess. First plugged it in.
• 1:35:00
  OK, so CJ Perry is cleaning the rock.
• 1:35:02
  Lana is rebuking the Rock. Yes, love it.
• 1:35:05
  Love to hear it. I didn't know any of that, that
• 1:35:07
  story that's so good. I.
• 1:35:10
  Got to save some tea for you. Oh.
• 1:35:11
  My God, I love it. Thank you for bringing it here
• 1:35:13
  to Delulu. OK, so I have two more for you.
• 1:35:17
  Are you claiming or rebuking? This one's going to feel random,
• 1:35:20
  but it's not Sydney Sweeney. Claiming I love her.
• 1:35:25
  How do you know? Oh, we research.
• 1:35:28
  How did you know I love her? You.
• 1:35:31
  Love her. Do you like somehow see that I
• 1:35:34
  post her on Instagram story or something?
• 1:35:36
  I have never seen that, no. My Co writer deep dives on your
• 1:35:39
  Twitter and he screenshot 9 instances of you retweeting
• 1:35:44
  Sydney Sweeney praise. And he was like I think we
• 1:35:46
  should put this in the show. And I was like is it really that
• 1:35:49
  deep? And he was like, do you think
• 1:35:51
  her retweeting 9 times is a lot? I was like, I'll bring it up and
• 1:35:55
  claim and reviews. Oh my God that's so funny.
• 1:35:58
  I I did like I just occasionally will retweet like it's hot gifts
• 1:36:01
  and hot pictures of her I. Think she's hot?
• 1:36:05
  You're good, OK. But I do post her on my
• 1:36:08
  Instagram story a lot because she's just like, the one thing
• 1:36:10
  about her I love that she's hot and beautiful and she's a
• 1:36:15
  traditional actress who embodies her sexuality and embodies like,
• 1:36:20
  like is OK with showing her titties.
• 1:36:23
  Like yeah, exactly. You have hot titties.
• 1:36:25
  And besties, if you want to see my titties, you can check my
• 1:36:27
  passes. Community enjoying that.
• 1:36:30
  That's where you get all the exclusive Ryan content.
• 1:36:35
  So are we claiming or rebuking being on a reality show again?
• 1:36:40
  Claiming. Hell yeah, let's do it together.
• 1:36:43
  Yes, OK, yes, let's do it. Reality.
• 1:36:47
  Realistically, I feel like I wouldn't do a reality show.
• 1:36:49
  Really. I don't know you.
• 1:36:50
  Should do Surreal Life. OK.
• 1:36:53
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a nice big paycheck.
• 1:36:56
  How? Yeah, it was only two weeks.
• 1:36:58
  It's like 2 weeks, OK, It's big. It's like, so worth it.
• 1:37:01
  Hell yeah. I mean, and to me, yeah, when
• 1:37:05
  you're in the house, you're like, what am I doing?
• 1:37:07
  Why not, you know? But then afterwards you're like,
• 1:37:09
  oh, that was so worth it. OK, wait.
• 1:37:11
  And I met a lot of friends, like Manny Mua.
• 1:37:14
  I'm still really good friends with him.
• 1:37:15
  I love him. Oh yeah, that's right.
• 1:37:16
  You understand? There, Yeah.
• 1:37:17
  And Tamar Braxton. Yeah, they were great.
• 1:37:21
  OK Yeah, everyone was great on the show.
• 1:37:23
  I mean, Dennis Rodman was special, but.
• 1:37:26
  That's T Lulu. Yes.
• 1:37:28
  OK, CJI got something for you. The fans are dying to know.
• 1:37:32
  This is a highly requested question.
• 1:37:35
  So how do you explain the fact that you never held a title as
• 1:37:39
  champion in WWE? Oh, that's a good question.
• 1:37:45
  You scan a Lulu. Gosh, wow.
• 1:37:48
  Well, I would say I have never been champion.
• 1:37:54
  Yes, yes. And you will.
• 1:37:57
  And we're manifesting that from. Lulu yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 1:38:00
  But I I'm so grateful because I was able to help bring several
• 1:38:05
  of my clients to the highest level of what they do and do it
• 1:38:11
  in great shoes. So Oh my.
• 1:38:12
  God, and it is so fabulous. Absolutely.
• 1:38:14
  And help bring titles to them. And I'm so thankful.
• 1:38:18
  I, I just, I was so grateful I was able to be front row
• 1:38:22
  watching some of the greatest athletes in the world fight and
• 1:38:26
  compete and have these experiences that many people
• 1:38:29
  never have. And I was able to be there and
• 1:38:32
  help them, steer them and guide them and shape them and, you
• 1:38:37
  know, help them become multiple champions.
• 1:38:39
  And being a part of that's so incredible in itself.
• 1:38:42
  Yes, yes. And I Paul Heyman was always one
• 1:38:45
  of my favorite characters in WWE and he's, in my opinion, one of
• 1:38:48
  the greatest managers of all time.
• 1:38:51
  And he's still going hard and over 30 years in the business
• 1:38:55
  and an entrepreneur and I always, you know, I want to
• 1:38:59
  become the next. I want to become the first Lana.
• 1:39:02
  But you know when he retires to. You are the first, Lana.
• 1:39:08
  Thank you. Thank you and.
• 1:39:10
  You're opening so many doors too, for all the future Lanas.
• 1:39:12
  Thank you. So yeah, maybe in the past I've
• 1:39:15
  never been champion, but we never know what in the future
• 1:39:18
  holds for a lot. I mean, you are going to be
• 1:39:20
  champion and you're going to be the Money in the Bank champion
• 1:39:24
  and you're going to hold the title as champion.
• 1:39:27
  And we're all manifesting this. It's all true, Lulu.
• 1:39:28
  And I mark my words, I will have Brett do this clip.
• 1:39:32
  The part of you manifesting this show on this show and that you
• 1:39:36
  became champion is going to be like a whole little fan edit and
• 1:39:40
  it's going to be amazing. And we're so proud of you in
• 1:39:42
  advance. Congratulations on being
• 1:39:43
  champion. Thank you.
• 1:39:44
  I claim it and I receive it. Period.
• 1:39:46
  It's yours. We're being OK.
• 1:39:48
  We're manifesting that for sure. But we close out every show by
• 1:39:51
  manifesting together. What else are we manifesting
• 1:39:55
  right now? What's next for CJ?
• 1:39:56
  What do you want? I want to have a baby.
• 1:40:00
  Oh, Oh my gosh, A little Ryan. A Ryan junior.
• 1:40:05
  Yay. Yes.
• 1:40:07
  And then Ryan Junior gonna have that delulu bear.
• 1:40:09
  Ohh my gosh. And I love this delulu bear.
• 1:40:12
  Well, it's Ryan Juniors. Off the tell, Off the tell Miro
• 1:40:15
  that we've already decided the name.
• 1:40:17
  We sure did. We absolutely did.
• 1:40:19
  So you're manifesting a baby? Yes.
• 1:40:22
  Talk about it. Well, I'm actually in my process
• 1:40:25
  of doing IVF right now. So everyone please keep us in
• 1:40:28
  your prayers. Yes, we've been trying to have a
• 1:40:32
  baby for a long time and probably since I've been
• 1:40:35
  probably like 6 years now and yes, so.
• 1:40:38
  It's a journey. It is a journey.
• 1:40:39
  And so for everyone that thinks it's just easy for anyone to get
• 1:40:43
  pregnant, it's actually a miracle every time life comes
• 1:40:46
  into this world, you know, and I, I think a lot of women and
• 1:40:52
  probably men too, but a lot of women, we spend half of our life
• 1:40:55
  trying to not get pregnant. And then next thing you know,
• 1:40:58
  you're like, Oh my God. Like.
• 1:41:00
  Yes. And so, and also, you know, I
• 1:41:04
  think people don't realize it's like how how many people really
• 1:41:09
  do fight, like really struggle with this and people don't want
• 1:41:12
  to talk about it 'cause it's. Good that you're being open
• 1:41:15
  about the journey too, because you're right, it doesn't have a
• 1:41:17
  lot of representation, or at least enough representation.
• 1:41:20
  Yes, yes. So I did my first egg retrieval
• 1:41:23
  in January and that was successful.
• 1:41:26
  And then yes. And then my husband had his
• 1:41:29
  sperm taken and frozen a couple months ago.
• 1:41:32
  Yes. Then I start my, I just actually
• 1:41:37
  yesterday started the injections for we're going to try IVF this
• 1:41:41
  time and then unfreeze the sperm and my eggs, take more eggs from
• 1:41:47
  me and then try for the embryos and pray and pray that we have
• 1:41:51
  children. Oh my gosh, Ryan Junior is
• 1:41:53
  coming along absolutely well. I'm popping for that.
• 1:41:57
  Yeah, I'm taking all the positive energy and it's it's
• 1:42:00
  going to happen. Yes, it's happening and it's
• 1:42:03
  it's. I'm so excited for you.
• 1:42:06
  Congratulations in advance. Thank you.
• 1:42:08
  I'm coming to the baby shower. Yes, yes, yes.
• 1:42:11
  And I'm going to spoil Ryan Junior y'all Oh.
• 1:42:14
  My God. Ryan Junior will get all the
• 1:42:16
  Dulu merch. Ryan is a gender neutral name by
• 1:42:19
  the way. It is.
• 1:42:21
  I'm stand on that. Yes, we can have a a reveal
• 1:42:24
  party. Yes, Oh my God, and.
• 1:42:26
  Our joint set. Oh, hell yeah.
• 1:42:29
  Yeah. We'll that we'll splash the
• 1:42:30
  rumors at the gender reveal party for Ryan Junior.
• 1:42:33
  Absolutely. Yay.
• 1:42:34
  I'm popping for that too. Yeah.
• 1:42:37
  Yay. OK.
• 1:42:37
  Manifesting a baby already yours.
• 1:42:39
  Congratulations. Of course.
• 1:42:41
  What else are we manifesting? The success of Identity Crisis,
• 1:42:46
  which already exists. Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.
• 1:42:50
  Yes. More acting roles.
• 1:42:52
  Pop pop pop pop pop pop. Maybe singing more singing.
• 1:42:58
  Definitely more dancing. I love you on the Dancing with
• 1:43:00
  the Stars. Oh my God, that's my.
• 1:43:02
  Dream. Oh, my God, You're going to do
• 1:43:03
  it. Literally my dream.
• 1:43:04
  I'm going to vote for you every week.
• 1:43:06
  Wait, is it a voting show? It is a voting.
• 1:43:07
  Do I vote? We're voting for her every week.
• 1:43:09
  Besties. Oh, yeah.
• 1:43:10
  Pop pop pop pop pop. Imagine if that's the reality
• 1:43:13
  show that we're both on. Oh well, I'd be off real quick.
• 1:43:17
  You never know, your friends could come out and vote
• 1:43:20
  everything. I'm competitive, so yeah, that's
• 1:43:23
  true. OK, I'll take it.
• 1:43:25
  You know, I'll do it. I'll definitely do that for
• 1:43:27
  sure. I'm open to everything.
• 1:43:29
  Universe. You heard that here.
• 1:43:30
  OK. And then you're also manifesting
• 1:43:32
  being the general manager of Monday Night Raw.
• 1:43:34
  Yes, Oh yeah, period. Period.
• 1:43:36
  And then also manifesting, helping Rusev becoming AWWE
• 1:43:39
  champion. Yes.
• 1:43:40
  Period. Period.
• 1:43:41
  And also manifesting becoming Money in the Bank champion.
• 1:43:45
  Yeah, and then also manifesting the most viral WWE return in
• 1:43:51
  history. Oh my gosh, yes, period popping.
• 1:43:54
  And on top of all of this, you're manifesting, I'm
• 1:43:57
  manifesting this CJ Perry tour. Yes, yes.
• 1:44:03
  Oh my God. I just went down the wish list
• 1:44:06
  of everything that you want and you know what with your track
• 1:44:09
  history of being able to manifest everything in your life
• 1:44:12
  if you're pretty good about this.
• 1:44:14
  I've received that and I claim it.
• 1:44:16
  Period. And you know what?
• 1:44:17
  Fun fact, Lulu, Actually, a lot of my guests who come on the
• 1:44:18
  show experience unprecedented success after their episode
• 1:44:23
  comes out. I've noticed that.
• 1:44:24
  I've noticed that. Yeah.
• 1:44:26
  Oh my gosh, It's so great. That's incredible.
• 1:44:28
  And you're going to join that coveted alum and this.
• 1:44:32
  Yeah, that's exciting. OK, so we're manifesting all
• 1:44:34
  that, claiming all that. Yes, we're claiming it.
• 1:44:36
  We're claiming all of it, claim claiming, manifesting.
• 1:44:39
  It's going to happen. Already happened.
• 1:44:43
  Yes. Claim.
• 1:44:44
  Claim. And also I'm open to what's
• 1:44:49
  supposed to happen because I think like when we were talking
• 1:44:51
  about opportunities, meet those who are prepared.
• 1:44:54
  And that's what luck is, is that's what my life was.
• 1:44:58
  And I think you we talked about that on identity crisis with you
• 1:45:01
  too is like working hard, working hard, working hard and
• 1:45:04
  then going after what you want, going after you want.
• 1:45:07
  But I might have thought that what was going to make me famous
• 1:45:10
  and rich was ballet or dance as a little girl and your.
• 1:45:15
  Path went a different direction, but you still got exactly what
• 1:45:18
  you wanted, and you still were able to manifest what you
• 1:45:20
  wanted, even though maybe the journey wasn't exactly what you
• 1:45:23
  imagined. And I love that.
• 1:45:25
  That's how I feel too, actually. Yeah.
• 1:45:27
  When I was manifesting what I wanted because I wanted to
• 1:45:29
  perform and be an entertainer, I was measuring myself being a
• 1:45:32
  Disney star, which today I don't even want to be a Disney star.
• 1:45:34
  But like, what I'm doing now is like, it is so much better and
• 1:45:37
  it's so much more appropriate for me and makes way more sense.
• 1:45:40
  And for sure, exactly that manifestations happen in so many
• 1:45:43
  different ways and it's just being open to receiving them.
• 1:45:45
  Absolutely. Working hard, not just like
• 1:45:48
  being like manifesting or just praying or just seeing it like
• 1:45:51
  all that stuff and being positive plus working hard and
• 1:45:55
  being open to maybe, maybe the universe will give us it
• 1:45:58
  packaged a little bit differently.
• 1:46:00
  And that's because that's what's for us and meant for us.
• 1:46:03
  And that's actually a much better version than what we
• 1:46:06
  envisioned. And you know what?
• 1:46:07
  Trusting the universe with that is such a vital step of it, too.
• 1:46:10
  Like, I know it's so easy to get lost in your head, have an
• 1:46:12
  identity crisis if you will. But honestly, the universe gives
• 1:46:15
  you exactly what you need and exactly what you've been
• 1:46:17
  manifesting, even if it might not feel like the way that
• 1:46:19
  you're expecting it. And you know what?
• 1:46:20
  I will pop to that. Bread is popping off camera.
• 1:46:26
  There's this scripture that says that God is able to do
• 1:46:31
  immeasurably more than we could ever ask or imagine.
• 1:46:33
  And I wrote that down before WWE.
• 1:46:36
  And I felt like that's exactly what happened with my husband
• 1:46:39
  and I like I could have. It was my dream to be able to
• 1:46:42
  work with my husband and then travel the world with him and
• 1:46:45
  have action figures and trading cards and all I would have.
• 1:46:48
  I didn't even have the courage to dream for something like that
• 1:46:51
  because that's so insane. It feels too big.
• 1:46:54
  It feels way too big. But nothing too big, nothing too
• 1:46:57
  crazy. The universe is endless.
• 1:46:59
  Absolutely. And I think that's everyone
• 1:47:00
  watching. That's what I encourage you is
• 1:47:02
  like dream big. Write down your 100 biggest
• 1:47:06
  dreams, like be audacious with your dreams, and then write down
• 1:47:10
  10 goals that you have about 50% chance to achieve over the next
• 1:47:14
  year. And then just send it off to the
• 1:47:17
  universe and be like God. I'm asking for the universe to
• 1:47:20
  do immeasurably more than I could ever ask or imagine, and
• 1:47:23
  it will happen. Period.
• 1:47:25
  And honestly, I feel like that's a viable plan too, for anyone
• 1:47:28
  who needs tools on how to manifest.
• 1:47:30
  It's actually reasonable. And I think it's a lot of, like,
• 1:47:32
  aligned action, yes, knowing that there are steps to take as
• 1:47:35
  well. Meet the universe in the middle.
• 1:47:37
  Yeah, I love that. That was so powerful.
• 1:47:39
  And honestly, CJ, congratulations on everything.
• 1:47:41
  Congratulations on identity crisis.
• 1:47:43
  Congratulations on becoming Money in the Bank champion.
• 1:47:46
  Congratulations on being a general manager and
• 1:47:50
  congratulations on I'm trying to raw dog and remember all of it.
• 1:47:53
  There are a lot of goals. Healthy, wonderful child.
• 1:47:56
  Congratulations on Ryan Junior, the biggest one.
• 1:47:59
  Of course you have it all. Congratulations.
• 1:48:03
  Thank you for having me. Thank you so much for being on
• 1:48:06
  the show, CJ, and thank you so much to all my delulu Divas who
• 1:48:10
  are watching on the video version of the show on Spotify
• 1:48:12
  and listening. And this was your healthy dose
• 1:48:14
  of delulu. Now you can go live your true
• 1:48:16
  Lulu, Miss hot and flexible. CJ Perry, where can the bestie
• 1:48:21
  Lulu's find you? Oh.
• 1:48:22
  My gosh, on Instagram and Twitter, the CJ Perry and that's
• 1:48:27
  the as in THE and then I guess YouTube, CJ Perry, Snapchat, CJ
• 1:48:33
  Perry and tick tock. My new tick Tock is I want to
• 1:48:37
  see CJ Perry tick tock. I think it's the CJ Perry we
• 1:48:41
  will Fact Check for. Yes, and you could also find CJ
• 1:48:45
  on her passes community on cjperry.com, period.
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• 1:48:58
  And merchandise and it's sickening merchandise by the
• 1:49:00
  way, I will be purchasing myself if it was available and ready by
• 1:49:04
  the moment of this taping, I wouldn't wearing it just so you
• 1:49:06
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• 1:49:08
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• 1:49:12
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