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Random Heathen Ramblings: S5, EP28 - Keeping The Lore Alive Through Art 9feat. Saga Erickson) · Random Heathen Ramblings

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  Hello everyone, and welcome to the Random Heathen Ramblings
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  Hope you're having a great week so far.
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  Hope you've enjoyed this hot, hot summer that we're having at
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  least here in the portion of the United States that I live in.
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  I know this week this reaches far and wide and not necessarily
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  everyone is experiencing the same types of weather that we
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  are, but if if the heat is your thing, then then you ought to
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  be, as you know, happy as a clam, as they say.
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  So welcome back to the show this week at a very fun and exciting
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  interview that we're going to be holding today with a return
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  guest. If you guys have listened to my
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  stuff before watching my content, you've probably heard
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  of Saga Ericsson. She's a heathen hedge witch, as
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  she calls herself, and she's located in the United States as
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  well, quite up north in the UP of Michigan, so the Upper
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  Peninsula area. So she's probably not dealing
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  with the oppressive heat down here too much.
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  But anyway, she had reached out not all that long ago and wanted
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  to come on here and talk about how she has incorporated art
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  into keeping the lore alive. And she's going to have some
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  presentations of her original artwork in regards to that.
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  And so she's going to be or together, she or I or both maybe
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  are going to be she's she's put together a number of slides and
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  presentation of the examples of her artwork.
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  So, you know, I think this is one of those things that as
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  heathens and, and, you know, people with, with creative
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  minds, you know, we, we look at, you know, whether it's a
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  crafting and any sort of like physical, tangible item that you
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  can use or, or, or play like an instrument or drum or any other
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  sort of, you know, such things as like ritual items.
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  Anytime that you know, that artistic, you know, that, that,
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  that artistic funny bone or that artistic, you know, bone can be
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  tickled. It's exciting to see what comes
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  of it, how people manifest certain things through their art
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  and saga's art is is pretty wild.
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  I don't know if they're, you know, watercolors or, or
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  anything like that. She's going to explain to us
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  more about that when she comes on here today.
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  But if you want to listen or or watch, you know, anything else
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  that that her and I have done, I'll have the previous episodes
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  LinkedIn the show notes. So for those of you on Patreon,
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  you can go back through my video catalog and want to say she was
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  she might have been on like one of the first guests on on season
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  five this year or at the very end of season four, but
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  relatively recently. So so that that episode that
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  that she was in last time will be LinkedIn the show notes of
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  the podcast or you know, down in the video description for all
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  you folks on Patreon. And because we are going to be
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  presenting today, we're going to have stuff on screen for you all
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  to see. If you are not yet a patron on
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  Patreon, now is your chance. Now is your time to pledge that
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  dollar, get your access and watch and see what Saga has to
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  offer. Because this is going to be a
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  very visual episode. We're going to be or she's going
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  to be sharing a lot of her her art with us.
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  And so if you're not watching it, everything that you were
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  listening to is you're not going to get as much of an experience
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  out of it as if you were were watching it, you know?
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  the show. And if you want to continue your
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  pledge after that, it's greatly appreciated.
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  But you don't have to. You can just do the the one time
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  pledge, watch the episode or watch as many video episodes as
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  you want. If you want to just binge a
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  bunch of video episodes in my back catalogue there feel free.
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  Just, you know, all the season 5 and a little bit I think of the
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  end of season four is available on here on Patreon.
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  So have a have fun, go wild, you know, live a little, treat
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  yourself with that dollar pledge.
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  So additionally from that, you know, if you go to the link tree
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  link that's annotated there, you'll find all my other
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  information, all my socials that you can follow me on the
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  merchandise store through spring and any other ways that you can
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  or want to support the show. It's greatly appreciated.
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  So check out that link, tree link and I think that's it as
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  far as I'm concerned with my housekeeping stuff.
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  You guys know the drill. Just click that link, tree link
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  and it'll take you where you need to go.
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  And then also be on the lookout for anything that's linked there
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  for Saga. You know, she has a Facebook
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  group. I think it's the Northern Lights
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  collective or something like that, but that'll be linked down
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  below or over there over here, wherever you find the show
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  notes. You know, again, Patreon viewers
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  down in the video description. Follow her there or join that
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  group. I'm in there, not very active in
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  there, but I've joined and and enjoy the stuff that that she
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  and some of the other members of that group and then the admins
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  and the mods put out there. So check all that out.
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  Show the support in any way that you can and let's see what saga
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  has to tell us today with regards to, you know, keeping
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  our lore. We're keeping the lore of of
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  North Eathenry alive through art.
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  Let's get into it. All right, folks.
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  And we are joined here back again return guest, the heathen
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  hedge witch of the UP. We got Saga Ericsson back on the
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  the podcast today. So thank you Saga.
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  Welcome back to the show. Hi, I'm happy to be here.
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  Great. Happy to have you.
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  We were talking a bit offline about the, the, the
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  uncharacteristic changes of the weather.
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  I know you're, you're up there in the far north with some, what
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  I would consider more seasonable weather for me if I was having
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  to pick anything instead of this, you know, oppressive heat
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  and humidity. But it is definitely odd out
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  here. I know a lot of folks are
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  experiencing things that are just not normal weather wise.
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  So I'm glad that you're at least not having to deal with this
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  sauna of a situation that we have down here in Tennessee and
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  other places. Yeah, it's not near as extreme
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  up here. Yeah, and you were saying before
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  that, before we started, before we started recording that your,
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  your herbs are liking the weather too.
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  So you're having a good, good wet season?
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  Yeah, it's, yeah, it's a very good, good mix of both wet and
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  sun. And so the plant life here has
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  just gone crazy for the herbalists out there.
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  The Saint John's wort that grows wild up here is normally only
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  about a foot high this time of year.
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  Right now, the Saint John's wort is about 3 feet tall.
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  So it is just huge. Huge.
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  And it's everywhere. Yeah.
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  Yeah. It's it's been a very prolific
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  growing season up here. Fantastic.
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  And for everybody that's new to the show or that doesn't know
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  who you are, I, I've, I've told people you, you are a return
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  guest. You obviously have been on the
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  show before and we're going to have the folks that want to
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  check out our, our last episode where you came on.
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  But for those that are new or haven't caught it yet and just
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  want to a little bit of background on who you are, would
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  you mind sort of introducing yourself and letting the people
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  know who you are and what you do?
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  Sure, I'm Saga Ericsson and I'm a Norse animist, which means I I
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  find the divine in everything around me.
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  I find I find our gods and everything around me.
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  And my Norse animism of course, the Norse part.
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  I follow the Norse gods, I'm a lifelong artist, and I live on
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  the border of far northern Wisconsin and the Upper
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  Peninsula of Michigan, about 15 minutes from Lake Superior,
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  where my husband and I are living.
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  A sustainability experiment right on on the UP border,
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  trying to leave as small a footprint on the earth as we
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  possibly can. As a as a heathen Hedgewich.
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  I am also a Githia, an ordained Githia for Awake in the North,
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  as well as my own group, the Northern Lights Collective.
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  I am a safe worker. I'm a vulva.
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  I have been walking this path for over 35 years and it's one
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  of those kind of things that I just can't get enough.
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  I keep learning more all the time and as an artist, my work
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  is how I keep the lore alive and it's it's kind of how I got my
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  name as well. Yeah, saga, right.
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  I mean, that's a a literal saga and and storytelling, visual
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  storytelling is, is definitely a way of, of doing that, telling
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  the sagas through through vision, you know, the visionary
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  arts or the yeah. And I write to go with a lot of
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  these things. So a lot of a lot of the pieces
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  that we'll be sharing today, I have poetry too.
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  I have stories too. Some of them are already
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  illustrations that are due to be published soon in in a lore
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  book. So it's it's kind of an exciting
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  culmination of like the masterpiece.
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  Now that I'm in my 60s, this, the masterworks coming together
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  of art and story. And yeah, to me it's just very
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  exciting. It is I, you know, and I'm
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  excited that that first of all, you wanted to come on here and
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  give people a chance to see the art now has what what what we
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  are going to be sharing today. Again, for those that are
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  listening to this, this this episode is going to be a lot of,
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  you know, presentations. We're going to be seeing a lot
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  of things that if you're just listening to this, you're
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  missing out. If, if, if you're not going to
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  be watching this. So as I said before, you know,
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  you'll definitely, if you if, if, if, if any a time on the
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  random heathen rambling podcast that there was for you to want
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  to see what's going on now is it?
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  So head on over to Patreon, become a patron for just the
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  dollar to, to, to watch this at the very least, so you can see
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  everything that we're talking about.
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  But the the art that you're going to be sharing with us
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  today. Saga has this.
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  Who else has seen what we're about to see?
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  A lot of a lot of the main body of the slides that we'll be
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  sharing today are pieces that I've actually done quite well
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  with in our community selling prints and greeting cards.
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  So a lot of your viewership may already have some of my work.
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  My, my pieces are kind of scattered all over North America
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  and Western Europe. And I think there's a couple
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  pieces in Australia and South America too.
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  But there I, it's kind of a, an inch.
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  I have a niche market of very dedicated collectors.
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  So so some of your listeners may already have some of my pieces.
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  It wouldn't surprise me just, you know, as as, as, as your
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  reputation precedes you and as long as you've been active in
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  the various capacities that you have been.
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  And yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if, if the folks that are
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  listening and maybe even watching this on Patreon have
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  been like, ah, yeah, I can't wait to see that and more.
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  And, but are these, how do you, how do you capture this your,
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  your art? Are they, you know, watercolors,
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  paintings, What's, what's your normal methodology?
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  Most of my pieces are watercolor and ink.
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  I I once in a while work in acrylics or oils or pastels,
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  even graphite. But my my main go to is
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  watercolor and ink and predominantly watercolor pencils
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  because I'm as a watercolor artist.
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  I'm not one that works wet on wet.
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  I'm a little bit of a control freak and so the the colored
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  pencil work, I can almost sculpt on the page with color.
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  So I can, you know, vary things with, you know, different water
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  application with these pencils to make them rich and vibrant
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  instead of voluminous and flowing like a more free form
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  watercolor. So as an example, here's here's
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  a watercolor and ink original of the rune I was and I don't know
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  if you can see close here. But it's like going up the tree.
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  Yes, yes, and it it this is this is a rune that blah, blah blah.
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  There we go. This rune features a lot in a
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  healing system I'm developing, but that's that'll be for
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  another time. That's exciting.
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  I love, I love Rune. First of all, I love the runes.
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  Anyway, I've I've picked up. That part.
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  My heathenry as as a bit of a runer, you know, and, and
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  studying the runes and not just the elder Futhark, but also the
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  Anglo-Saxon Futhorc and the younger Futhark.
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  And I'm really intrigued about how contemporary heathens one
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  particular fellow who has come up with an American futharch
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  system to to reflect, yeah, to to reflect the the, the, the
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  magical and the linguistic sides of how the runes were, were,
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  were sounds than anything. So to have a runic system that
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  reflects the spoken American English language, you know, it's
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  fascinating. And I and I love really
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  immersing myself in that. So seeing them, seeing them
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  portrayed in different ways through art.
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  I'm I'm all about it. So I'm excited.
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  To check out my upcoming book. Yeah, which which I know you've
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  got several publications out already.
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  Just as a side note does as as we're going through and talking
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  you you're published, you're published author, I'm assuming
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  where where can people get that? We'll we'll link some.
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  Stuff more of published more of published illustrator.
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  My written works are not pub. Well, no, I take that back.
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  I do have I do have one of my written pieces published in the
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  book of Heathen prayers. That's put out by Awake in the
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  North and it's it's an excellent, excellent book of
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  heathen prayers written by various members in that
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  community. But my my published pieces are
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  mainly illustration. Once Upon a time, there was a
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  writer by the name of Swain Wodening from.
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  The White Marsh, right Or well, him and Eric.
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  Are yeah, him and Eric Gordoning.
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  I, I, I illustrated his last book before before he he stopped
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  writing as a heathen. So that was the first of my
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  published illustrations and the last two of Kurt Bookstrat's
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  books. I had the great pleasure of, of
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  doing the the illustrations for both of his last two books.
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  And I am currently finishing the edits on a Norse lore book for
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  children of all ages. I'm hoping that it'll be
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  published for Ewell. So I'm I'm really hoping that'll
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  be out by Ewell. Wonderful.
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  And we may have, we may have talked about this the last time
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  you were on, but any, anywhere that people can get this stuff
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  make please make sure. That I get some.
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  Links so that way I can direct people that want to support you
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  in that way and and start collecting maybe themselves.
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  Awesome. Yeah, I can.
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  I can make sure to provide links for you.
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  Excellent. I would love to start showing
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  the folks your artwork now and and we can kind of talk through
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  it. So I'm going to be now folks
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  that are listening right now is your chance get over to Patreon,
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  become a patron there to to see what it is that we're going to
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  be showing you. Because now we're going to start
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  looking at this artwork that Saga is and has been working on.
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  So on the screen we've got we're going to be we're we're first
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  going to be showing, I guess this this series of in your the
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  Norse lore series, right? Yeah.
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  So this is a series of 24 different slides that we're
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  going to be going through. This is this being the first
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  one. So would you mind just walking
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  us briefly through what we're about to be seeing or what we're
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  seeing right now? And then like, what it what?
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  What's this, Morse? Lore series This is This is my
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  first version of Ask an Embla from the etic poem the Voluspa.
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  Where in the poem of the the divine brothers Odin, Villi and
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  V are walking along the beach and there they came upon two
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  logs just floating lifeless in the water, an ash log and an Elm
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  log and into these logs they breathed life breath blooming
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  hue an ask an Ambla. The ash and the Elm were born of
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  trees. So Gaz, Olden, Billy and V made
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  the very first humans from an ash tree and an Elm tree, and
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  that's what this particular illustration depicts is.
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  That be coming from the trees into human form and I've got all
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  the divine beings off to the sideline blowing breath into
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  them. The the original.
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  You can actually see the breath coming from the mouth of Odin.
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  So, so that's Askanembla and it is a a watercolor on on ink or
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  no watercolor and ink on paper. Yeah, I love the integration of,
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  you know, Oscar and Emblem coming forth out of the tree.
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  Really, it really captures the what the story is, is, is
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  talking about. Beautiful, beautiful depiction.
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  This is a go ahead. No, I was going to just say now
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  for it's a boulder, I guess. Yes, yeah, yeah, Boulder the
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  beautiful. And he was the the most flawless
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  of the Acer. Balder was the son of Frigga and
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  Odin and he was bright and shining and pure.
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  And they found he was immune from harm.
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  So the gods and goddesses would make sport of throwing
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  projectiles, weapons, everything at the God Balder.
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  And then one one night I don't I don't have it right in my mind
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  if it's Freya or not. Freya, Freya or Odin has the
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  dream of Balder's death. But Odin goes to goes to hell to
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  talk to Hella where they find this hall all decked out in gold
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  waiting for Balder to arrive. So the goddess Freya went to all
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  of the living creatures all over Midgard, all over all the
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  world's, and got a pledge from each one of them that they would
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  never harm her son. But she failed to get the pledge
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  of one harmless little plant, the mistletoe.
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  And in this painting, Valdez is actually holding the mistletoe
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  in his hands, which was the one weapon that that killed him,
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  fired by his own brother at the hands of Loki.
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  So this is this is my depiction of Balder and it's watercolor
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  and ink on cardstock. Nice.
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  So vibrant. The colors really are they
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  they're, they're beautiful. Thank you.
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  I I like intense. All right now we have looks like
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  Braggy with a with a a liar or Tagel harp or something.
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  Yeah, I'm, I'm not quite sure if it's a liar or what kind of harp
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  it's called, but yeah, this is, this is the God Braggy.
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  And he's he's looking at his muses out the window, one of
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  which is Freya and the other one is Frigga.
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  And Braggy was the Bard of the gods.
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  He is the God of inspiration and song and and stories.
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  You know, what I think is fun is to think about is, is the
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  connection of the gods and the, and the things that we find
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  associated or, or that we find that are that they are
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  associated with. You know, Broggy being a the,
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  the kind of the, the God of the skalds.
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  You know, the bards, as you say, the the storytellers, and he has
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  a wife in the stories who is Edun.
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  And Edun is is the keeper of the apples that keep the gods young.
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  And I don't know, I always thought that that was like an
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  interesting an interesting pair to consider.
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  You know how the how the two that.
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  Is an interesting pairing. You know how music kind of keeps
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  us all connected and, and, and brings out like the the
• 25:12
  nostalgia, the memorabilia, like we remember things from a song
• 25:17
  that we heard one time or whatever, you know, and it's
• 25:20
  almost it's keeping us young in a way.
• 25:21
  So I don't know if it's an interesting thing like I.
• 25:23
  I like that. Kind of amusing, definitely.
• 25:30
  Oh wow, and who we have here? This is the goddess Air, and Air
• 25:37
  is the goddess of healing, and she's in.
• 25:41
  She's got a basket in in her arms that has all kinds of
• 25:44
  different healing herbs. And behind her are birches and
• 25:49
  willows that are medicinal plants.
• 25:52
  And there's Saint John's wort growing all around her that are
• 25:56
  all these are all medicinal plants.
• 25:58
  And so air is the goddess of healing and she is but to be one
• 26:04
  of Frigga's handmaidens or even an aspect of Frigga herself.
• 26:09
  And so I, I, she's actually based on one of one of my dear
• 26:18
  friends who's a fellow heathen in the Twin City area who is a
• 26:23
  healer and a midwife, so. Oh wow, what a beautiful
• 26:29
  dedication to to to your friend there how to be to be sort of
• 26:33
  depicted in the more like immortalized almost in a way
• 26:37
  through art like this. And I loved the, the touches
• 26:39
  that you gave of, you know, you could have put anything in the
• 26:43
  background, but your focus was on healing plants and healing
• 26:47
  trees and then those healing properties.
• 26:49
  And, and that's a really great touch to the, the, the, the
• 26:54
  physician of the gods. I think she sometimes gets
• 26:56
  referred to or it as. Thank you all.
• 27:02
  Right, I see cats and ladies, so this has to be Freya.
• 27:09
  This is Lady Freya, the goddess of love and beauty, and she's
• 27:16
  draped over her shoulders. She's got her Falcon cloak and
• 27:19
  of course she has her her great cats that pull her chariot.
• 27:24
  And she is also a mistress of save.
• 27:28
  She's one of the original Vanik goddesses who was traded during
• 27:33
  the War between the Gods where she became an official Azure
• 27:39
  Goddess and everybody in all the world's craves Freya's hand in
• 27:46
  marriage. That's right.
• 27:49
  She's got that. She's got it going on, as I used
• 27:52
  to say. And she's done some things, you
• 27:56
  know, she, she's been around the block a time or two for a thing
• 27:59
  or two. A time or two, yeah.
• 28:01
  Loki. Loki has some stories to tell
• 28:03
  about that. Yeah, yeah, the doors.
• 28:05
  You know, I call them bragging rights, but all right.
• 28:12
  Beautiful. All right.
• 28:14
  And Speaking of the the the Acer Vanier War, here we have phrase
• 28:18
  Freya's brother, right? Yep, this is Freya's brother
• 28:22
  Frey. Freya is the Lord of the land
• 28:25
  and again like you just said he is one of the Vanit gods that
• 28:28
  was exchanged in the exchange of hostage gods between the Acer
• 28:34
  and the Vaner. And he is the Lord of the land.
• 28:39
  I always consider him like I I mix my pantheons from time to
• 28:45
  time and to me he's also the Green Man.
• 28:49
  He's also her and the hunter. I always see him as a a gentle
• 28:56
  forest guardian in in my own practice.
• 29:00
  And here he is riding the golden boar Gullenbersti, who was
• 29:06
  created by the dwarves as there was a there was a challenge in
• 29:15
  in the lore where Loki went to the dwarves initially to get
• 29:21
  hair for the goddess Sif. And but he also challenged the
• 29:28
  two different sets of dwarves who could make the best gifts
• 29:32
  and garb and all this good stuff for the gods as a as a contest.
• 29:37
  And Gullenbersti, the golden battle bore was among the
• 29:44
  treasures created by the dwarves.
• 29:47
  And Gullenbersti was the the Noble ride of the Godfrey.
• 29:55
  Yeah, another fun thing. I, I, I recently I was talking
• 30:00
  with somebody since we're talking about, you know, Frey
• 30:02
  and, and his his his name Frey or Freyr even is is is more of a
• 30:09
  title like you say, you know, Lord of the land or Lord of the
• 30:11
  earth or I think he's sometimes called God of the world.
• 30:16
  Is it's it's a it's it's a title more than a name in his, you
• 30:20
  know, the old name of of Eng. You know Ingvi Freyr was an old
• 30:24
  name of the same deity and he is AII heard the term used
• 30:30
  recently, God of the Seed, which I thought was an interesting
• 30:33
  canning. He is a fertility God.
• 30:36
  Yes. Exactly.
• 30:37
  So that's that makes sense. Yeah, Yeah, 'cause he is a
• 30:40
  fertility God. Yep, very nice.
• 30:44
  I love the the boar Goulden. Thirsty golden bristle, right?
• 30:49
  Beautiful in the mountains in the background.
• 30:52
  Love it, Mama Frigg. Mama Frigg Yep, and this is this
• 31:01
  is one of my depictions of Frigga and she is the mother
• 31:05
  goddess. She is the wife of Odin, the
• 31:08
  mother of of Baldur and many, many other gods and goddesses.
• 31:16
  She is the goddess of hearth and home and nurturing and
• 31:20
  mothering. And I have her here sitting
• 31:24
  before a Rowan tree which is also called a mountain ash.
• 31:29
  And I don't know why I am so. I always put ash trees like this
• 31:38
  with Mama Friga. She sometimes she is seen as a
• 31:44
  goddess of weaving or spinning and any, any of the home crafts
• 31:53
  for me. She's, you know, a, a very
• 31:57
  helpful deity that I call upon a lot when I want to learn more
• 32:06
  about family matters or healing or, you know, even even my own
• 32:13
  personal struggles as a wife and mother and grandmother.
• 32:18
  I I take those things to Friga. Now what is she holding in her,
• 32:24
  in her hand, across her lap there?
• 32:26
  She has a distaff which is an implement of spinning.
• 32:34
  OK. Spinning both flax and wool were
• 32:39
  were women's work for the most part.
• 32:42
  And it is, you know how clothing came to be is the spinning of
• 32:50
  wool, spinning of threads. And these threads are also
• 32:54
  become metaphor for spinning threads into the web of weird.
• 33:02
  So yeah. Yeah, the Weavers, you know,
• 33:10
  that was definitely, like you said, it was.
• 33:12
  It was the work of women. I think that's why a lot of
• 33:15
  times, like in the lore we hear like how Odin was kind of mocked
• 33:21
  or looked down upon for having their showing an interest in
• 33:23
  safe work 'cause that was deemed as you know, women's business.
• 33:28
  Right. You know, art is subjective.
• 33:32
  I think you would agree. People catch different things
• 33:36
  that maybe even the artist themself hadn't intended for.
• 33:40
  And I'm just going to say, I don't know if you made a
• 33:43
  conscious effort on this, but to me, when I see this piece, it
• 33:48
  looks as though she's sitting by or in a marshy area.
• 33:52
  The the the vegetation behind her and even the way her dress
• 33:56
  kind of cascades down to the to the to the ground reminds me a
• 34:00
  bit of of a of a marshy or a water.
• 34:03
  Area, yes. And her hall is in a marshy
• 34:07
  area, Yeah. That's why, you know, and I
• 34:10
  don't know if that was intended. It wasn't intended, but it kind
• 34:14
  of happened that way. And but yeah, she her hall is in
• 34:18
  a marshy area, as is my namesake saga.
• 34:26
  Her hall is called Sokhebek, which means sinking floor, so
• 34:33
  her her house was in the swamp too.
• 34:35
  Yeah. And I, I have an, I have an
• 34:39
  affinity. I'm sorry.
• 34:42
  It's good. Yeah, marshy areas.
• 34:45
  I like the where I grew up in in the northeast was Shinnecock
• 34:53
  Indians of the Algonquin nation. And it means like shiny rock.
• 34:57
  But they were, they were in the marshy areas.
• 35:00
  And then a lot of my ancestors from Europe came across from
• 35:06
  areas that were very similar. So, you know, Denmark and or not
• 35:11
  Denmark, but the Netherlands, sorry, the Dutch.
• 35:14
  So like the Netherlands tends to be a pretty marshy area.
• 35:16
  Yeah. My family's from the Netherlands
• 35:19
  as well. Yeah, yeah.
• 35:21
  Beautiful piece. I love it.
• 35:22
  Thank you. Thank you.
• 35:25
  This one's a signomic 1. Yes, it is.
• 35:28
  Tell us about it. This is from the Well of Weird.
• 35:33
  And so the the smaller figures that are seeded are the Weird
• 35:38
  sisters. They are are the giant
• 35:43
  progenitors of everything really, because they they, they
• 35:50
  are timeless. They are the past.
• 35:53
  URD, URD, Verdandi and Skull. The past, the present and that
• 35:59
  which is to be or to become. And the figure in the feathered
• 36:06
  cloak. It can be either Frigga or
• 36:10
  Freya, depending on your preferences.
• 36:14
  I didn't have a specific goddess in mind but she is holding a
• 36:17
  distaff and behind her is a cauldron which is standing in
• 36:23
  for the well. The the three sisters are
• 36:28
  spinning and weaving and cutting the threads so they are in the
• 36:33
  active creating life. Really, they are setting the
• 36:38
  fibers of life into being by spinning and weaving and then
• 36:43
  cutting once once a life is done.
• 36:47
  So there's an awful lot of things happening here.
• 36:52
  And in the background is is the rune algae's holding up their
• 36:56
  hall. So it just, it's kind of cool.
• 37:01
  Very cool. I mean I noticed obviously if I,
• 37:03
  you know anybody that's into runes, they're going to see that
• 37:06
  image and they're going to think algae's you know right away.
• 37:10
  It is it is also interesting to consider how much of A support
• 37:16
  that that in like construction, you know, that, that, that,
• 37:20
  that, that that symbol is, is a support column.
• 37:23
  You know, it's a support area, you know, when you see it in a
• 37:26
  lot of structures all over the place.
• 37:27
  But you know, another interesting thing to take away
• 37:31
  from the art pieces that yes, you have a ruin of protection
• 37:35
  there, but it's it's a ruin of support.
• 37:37
  You could say maybe you know. Protection, support and it's
• 37:44
  it's a ruin associated with the God Heimdall who was the teacher
• 37:49
  of mankind. So here we have a setting in a
• 37:52
  room where we have fates being woven and spun under the support
• 37:59
  of Algies. And in that you have a whole
• 38:03
  learning experience as well. So it's like a multi faceted
• 38:07
  canning for all the things happening in in there.
• 38:13
  Yeah, I really like this one. Like I just like analyzing and
• 38:18
  seeing all the different things going on.
• 38:19
  And the fact that you have, you know, this sort of central
• 38:22
  figure as you know Freya, whoever you want to identify
• 38:27
  being the one that kind of holds the distaff and then the the the
• 38:31
  Noroneer being there to do the weaving and didn't do the work.
• 38:37
  It's beautiful. Thank you.
• 38:42
  Wow, what a. Colorful rainbow brite picture
• 38:46
  here. Definitely Rainbow Brite.
• 38:50
  So in the previous slide we had the rune algies, which is Rep.
• 38:57
  You know the God named doll is often represented with that
• 39:02
  rune. He is the son of nine waves and
• 39:09
  he's also called the the teacher of mankind.
• 39:15
  There are, I don't remember the story, but he is the in this in
• 39:21
  the lore, he came to three different classes of humans and
• 39:28
  slept with them overnight. Amma and I, it was a
• 39:35
  grandmother, it was a mother, you know, grandmother,
• 39:38
  grandfather, grandmother, grandfather, great grandmother.
• 39:42
  So these, these three different classes of humans, he slept with
• 39:46
  each one of them to kind of like make the seed stock for the
• 39:51
  Earls, the thralls, the serfs, the the particular caste system
• 39:57
  that was prevalent in medieval Europe.
• 40:02
  And he's holding the galler horn, which is said to be blown
• 40:08
  at the beginning of Ragnarok, which is like the Nordic
• 40:12
  Armageddon. So yeah.
• 40:16
  And so yeah, he's he's here in this image blowing the galler
• 40:19
  horn as the flames are all kind of portend, you know, not
• 40:25
  portending. What's the word?
• 40:29
  I don't know the word right now. Starting the war.
• 40:33
  Yeah, it's kind of it's, it's like, get ready, guys.
• 40:37
  You know, buckle up and here comes.
• 40:39
  Raise. Yourself.
• 40:41
  Yeah. So we've got the flames that are
• 40:44
  kind of like an indication of the the the the destruction of
• 40:47
  the gods, the twilight of the gods.
• 40:49
  Maybe even we've got him standing here blowing a horn,
• 40:54
  his Galla horn, the two to announce or incite the sort of
• 40:58
  the beginning. Do I see a beast before him as
• 41:04
  well? There is a goat a.
• 41:07
  Goat. There is a goat in the picture.
• 41:10
  I don't remember why. I believe goats were associated
• 41:14
  with Hamdahl, but I'm I don't take that for a shirt because I
• 41:19
  just don't remember at this point.
• 41:23
  The sky, it's the rainbow colors in the sky represent Bifrost.
• 41:29
  Heimdell is also the guardian of the Bifrost Bridge and he he
• 41:35
  kind of policies who gets to go to Asgard and visit the gods.
• 41:40
  So anyone that's seen the Thor movie?
• 41:45
  He's Oh yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, He's the watchman of
• 41:48
  the. I mean, yeah, the Watchman of
• 41:50
  the Gods, you know, Son of Nine Mothers, 9 waves, you know, he's
• 41:53
  got these different things that in the stories get told about
• 41:56
  him. And interestingly enough,
• 41:58
  there's, you know, not a lot like historically or
• 42:02
  archaeologically that that point to there being a huge focus on
• 42:06
  him in regions. So he's very mystical too.
• 42:09
  I feel like there's this there's this mystique element about him.
• 42:14
  Beautiful, beautiful representation, though.
• 42:16
  I love the the the touches in the sky.
• 42:18
  How you how you focused on that as the the representation of the
• 42:21
  beef roster by Frost Bridge? All right, folks, I wonder who
• 42:25
  we got here. We got a sort of half and half
• 42:28
  thing going on. Yep, she's She's one of my
• 42:32
  favorite goddesses. This is the goddess Hell or
• 42:37
  hella she is. She is the Lady of Helheim.
• 42:42
  Where in the lore it is said those who do not die in battle
• 42:48
  go. You know those that die of old
• 42:51
  age or sickness go to Hella's Halls.
• 42:55
  But Hella's halls were also all decked out in gold and finery to
• 43:02
  receive Heimdall. Now, he didn't die of either old
• 43:06
  age or sickness. I yeah, I think the guy.
• 43:12
  'S or baller, Baller, hamdall or balder.
• 43:15
  Balder, thank you. Yeah, thank.
• 43:17
  You I was making sure I didn't miss a.
• 43:19
  No, no, that was my bad. Yeah, Thank you.
• 43:24
  When? When Balder was due to go to
• 43:27
  hell after after he was killed. Yeah, the hell.
• 43:32
  His halls were all decked out. Now in the lore Hella is the
• 43:37
  child of Loki and the giantess Anger Boda along with the the
• 43:44
  Wolfenrus and the Midgard Serpent Yorman Gander.
• 43:49
  So when these three monstrous children were were fathered by
• 43:55
  Loki they were each cast to a different world.
• 43:59
  The the the Midgard Serpent was cast into the ocean to embrace
• 44:07
  Midgard, Phanerus the wolf was raised by the God Tear until he
• 44:14
  became too dangerous and had to be bound, and Hal was given the
• 44:20
  realm of her own. Now makes me wonder what we
• 44:26
  don't know. What wasn't in the Lord that
• 44:31
  this particular goddess was given her whole realm.
• 44:38
  So I never saw hell as being a bad goddess or a bad place.
• 44:45
  In my own journeys and experiences, I've always found
• 44:48
  her to be a goddess of compassion, a goddess of
• 44:52
  peacefulness, a goddess of of someone that you can pour your
• 44:59
  deepest darkest shadows and sorrows to and she will take
• 45:05
  them. So I'm thinking that there had
• 45:08
  to have been bigger and greater stories about her and a lot of
• 45:13
  the other gods and goddesses that never made it into written
• 45:17
  lore that she had of realm all of her own.
• 45:24
  So that that's my two cents worth on on Hella.
• 45:29
  And she is one of my favorites because I have always found her
• 45:32
  to be more compassionate than terrifying, even though, you
• 45:40
  know, she's depicted as being half, half dark or rotting and
• 45:45
  half light. We're kind of like that as
• 45:51
  humans. You know, there's we have a
• 45:53
  shadow side, we have a dark side and we must be integrated to be
• 45:59
  whole. We're because we're not all one
• 46:02
  light and dark. We are.
• 46:04
  Both yeah, yeah, I, I've, I've had my own, you know, my
• 46:08
  personal UPG on on hell in in my own experiences that are very
• 46:14
  similar to what you're saying. It's it's a bit like with her
• 46:18
  for me. It's always been very, you know,
• 46:21
  it, you get it is what it is. You know, there's no, she's
• 46:25
  compassionate, but it's not, it's not out of yeah, there's
• 46:27
  not, it's not compassion out of I feel sorry for you.
• 46:31
  It's it's compassionate. Well, just this is what it is.
• 46:34
  You can't bargain with hell no. And and but it just is what it
• 46:39
  is. And that's in, in that, you
• 46:42
  know, there there's some comfort, I think.
• 46:45
  She will live your sorrows with you as you recount with stories.
• 46:51
  Yeah. And she listens to the stories
• 46:54
  of the dead. It's a great.
• 46:57
  One way of the stories listen to they can grow.
• 47:01
  Yes, yeah. And your and your, your, your
• 47:03
  vision, your representation that it is, it's the, the the split
• 47:06
  down the middle, sort of half rotting, half living it.
• 47:10
  It is such a vibrant difference. You know, you've got one side
• 47:13
  that is, you know, young and full of life, and the other
• 47:16
  which is decayed and and rotting.
• 47:19
  Visceral. Visceral.
• 47:20
  Yeah. Beautiful.
• 47:23
  Thank you, This is another depiction of hell where the dark
• 47:30
  is just in shadow. Now this one is a graphite it
• 47:37
  looks like or your description is graphite.
• 47:38
  The one prior was a watercolor I.
• 47:41
  Think yeah, watercolor and ink were were the two the the
• 47:45
  previous slide and this one is, is one of my graphite pieces.
• 47:48
  So it's all pencil in just various shades to depict light
• 47:56
  and dark and, you know, and she's kind of walking in the
• 48:01
  balance of both. Do you remember what I mean?
• 48:06
  So we, I don't, I don't know. I don't know which slide we're
• 48:08
  on. But in terms of seeing different
• 48:11
  gods being portrayed or goddesses being portrayed
• 48:13
  through your art, this is the first we've come across where
• 48:16
  hell gets two different depictions or two different
• 48:19
  slides. Was there was there a like a a a
• 48:24
  focus interest on wanting to give her more attention in in
• 48:28
  your artwork? Yeah, there was.
• 48:30
  I was doing a journey and of course, my my journeys are Lupg,
• 48:39
  by the way. Oh, you're, you're very welcome.
• 48:44
  And anyhow, in this journey, she came to me and, you know, I
• 48:49
  didn't see her so much as I heard her and she had kind of a
• 48:54
  pleading voice and said, make me beautiful.
• 48:58
  So this is this is the image that came from a plea to make
• 49:04
  her beautiful. And as an artist I find nothing
• 49:11
  more beautiful than the female form.
• 49:15
  So there she is. Spectacular.
• 49:19
  Thank you. I like, I like black and white
• 49:21
  art, the graphite style. I like the, Yeah, like there's
• 49:27
  something very ancient feeling about it, you know, it would
• 49:32
  remind me of a, of a bit more of a primitive style of art, you
• 49:37
  know, where there wasn't dyes and inks and things to to do it.
• 49:41
  And there is a lot of beauty to that.
• 49:44
  Definitely, Yeah. Hey, we talked a little bit
• 49:50
  about her before. The wife of Braggy, the keeper
• 49:55
  of, of the apples of youth. And I, I just, to me, this
• 50:01
  particular illustration is just very youthful because it's, it's
• 50:06
  vibrant, it's green, it's like springtime.
• 50:09
  And I have, I have a tree behind my sauna that we actually named
• 50:17
  for a dune that has golden apples.
• 50:21
  Every year without fail, it has golden apples.
• 50:24
  It's just beautiful. So.
• 50:29
  But yeah, she was. Yeah.
• 50:31
  Thank you. Golden hair, golden apples.
• 50:37
  Golden, golden, golden. It's gold.
• 50:39
  Full of gold. Yeah, yeah.
• 50:41
  Love it. Loki.
• 50:47
  Wow, this is an interesting piece.
• 50:52
  Yeah, he he stands on the Cliff. So tell us about this one here.
• 50:57
  Behind him is one of his own children, the midguard Serpent.
• 51:03
  Yorman gander in in the Cold Sea and he is holding Freya's Falcon
• 51:10
  cloak. So he is mid journey to
• 51:14
  Yeltenheim where he has borrowed, he has borrowed
• 51:17
  Freya's cloak so that he can make some kind of bargain with
• 51:22
  the with the giants. I don't even remember which
• 51:27
  journey this was 'cause he borrowed the cloak a lot.
• 51:30
  But anyhow, he this is him with the cloak.
• 51:35
  He's on an adventure, and behind him is the the, the Midgard
• 51:39
  Serpent and stormy skies, kind of depicting doom and gloom and,
• 51:45
  yeah, perilous journeys. And he's kind of a perilous kind
• 51:50
  of a character, the antagonist and sometimes savior of his own
• 51:59
  mischief in the lore. Yeah, I, it's, it's interesting.
• 52:04
  I I recently talked with a fellow who is in in Sweden and
• 52:10
  out there in this particular area where he lives, he is
• 52:16
  involved with this group. They call themselves the
• 52:19
  Congregation of the Smiling God and they are a very heavily
• 52:24
  focused on the aspects of Loki. Interesting.
• 52:28
  And they're they're so the, the podcast that by the time people
• 52:33
  listen to this, they'll have already heard the one about the
• 52:37
  congregation of the smiling God. So, you know, you can go back
• 52:40
  and listen to that folks if you need a refresher.
• 52:42
  But he does talk about their like they have a, a specific
• 52:47
  perspective of that, you know, Ragnarok has already happened.
• 52:50
  And they look at things kind of from the perspective of Loki
• 52:53
  being a survivor of Ragnarok and, and the world as it happens
• 52:58
  to be after the events of, of such and, and whatnot.
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  So it's, yeah, this, this is interesting.
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  This is, you know, this is one of those, this is one of those
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  depictions of Loki that I don't think I can say of.
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  You know, he, he, he gets like the, the imagery that Loki gets
• 53:14
  given by different artists seems a bit regurgitated.
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  No disrespect to other artists out there.
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  This does not feel like that at all.
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  It's, it's something very unique and and and original, I have to
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  say. Thank you.
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  Yeah. Nicely done.
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  Money. So Mani is a like a like a
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  celestial body, but a a deified, right?
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  Yes, he in in so much of folklore, the moon is often seen
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  as female, but in the Norse lore it is male.
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  And Mani is the name of the moon.
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  And so I have, I have I anthropomorphize many, many
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  things when I'm illustrating everything becomes people.
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  And so here is Mani as the moon and the tides are rising and you
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  know, and in our natural world, tides go in, tides go out.
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  Can't explain. That.
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  Well, they are, yeah. Yeah.
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  But yeah, here we've got tides happening, and the moon gets
• 54:31
  credit or blame for a lot of our human behavior, animal behavior.
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  You know, we don't see as much variations in people's
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  personality traits with the seasons of the sun, but the
• 54:50
  phases of the moon tend to make humans kind of wonky.
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  So any help? This is this is my depiction of
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  Mani, the moon as you know, and like, like most of my pieces,
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  this this is based on a person I know who's just a wonderful,
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  wonderful writer and reminds me of the moon.
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  So. You're right with like how you
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  said, with how, you know, the human emotions and behaviors
• 55:28
  tend to get credited to what Well, it must be a full moon,
• 55:31
  you know, or whatever. I, I, I think yeah, right.
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  And even though our that the word lunatic, right, has the
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  word Luna, which is a cognate to the, you know, lunar meaning the
• 55:44
  moon. So yeah, there's this gives me
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  some, it kind of gives me vibes of like Van Gogh's Starry Night
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  just a tad. Oh yeah, I can see that that
• 55:58
  that wasn't my intent, but I can definitely see that.
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  Fantastic. One of my favorite pieces.
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  Yeah, I I love Van Gogh's Starry Night.
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  I I really like this. This is beautiful.
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  The color scheme that you chose, the silvers, the Blues, the like
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  very lunar, very nice night, night time.
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  I love it. Here we go.
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  The laughing Odin, the old man so love.
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  It. I, I, I have a lot, a lot of
• 56:32
  different depictions of Odin, 'cause he's the All Father after
• 56:38
  all. So it's like what, what he then
• 56:40
  out there doesn't have some kind of affinity for Odin.
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  And again UPGI have felt his presence since I was a very
• 56:54
  small child and just didn't know who he was.
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  All I know is he was always there to talk to and behind him
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  is my version of Igdrasil. And I always see Igdrasil as
• 57:10
  female. So like tree of life, in a lot
• 57:14
  of pan pagandom, the tree tends to have a female form and the
• 57:23
  the Ravens Hugin and Munin are depicted as well.
• 57:28
  Odin of course is a wanderer and seeks for knowledge.
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  And the Ravens Hugin and Munin are thought and memory, and they
• 57:37
  soar across all the lands to collect information and
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  knowledge, knowledge, knowledge for Odin, who's always seeking
• 57:46
  for war. Yeah, yeah, the the wide brimmed
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  hat, you know, very wizardly, which in the lore he does get
• 57:58
  described as in one of his many names and many descripting
• 58:03
  descriptive things about him. He does get described as you
• 58:07
  know, wearing a wide brimmed hat, a blue blue cloak or the
• 58:11
  color blue often gets associated with Odin.
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  He he, he works out too in your depiction.
• 58:20
  Oh yeah, yeah, he's off. He's really.
• 58:23
  Yeah, he's cut, man. Like.
• 58:26
  I I have to interject a a version I'm working on right now
• 58:30
  of him where here we go. OK, hold on just a second.
• 58:37
  Let me let me do this here and get so that people can see a
• 58:40
  little bit better, OK? Oh yeah.
• 58:42
  This is a work in progress. Yeah.
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  Oh, wow. All right.
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  That's this is something you sent me when you first sent me
• 58:58
  your e-mail. That was like, that was the
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  intro, like, hey, I want to talk about this.
• 59:02
  Here's here's something I'm working on.
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  Yeah. Where he's like.
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  Yeah, he is. It's, it's hard to see here, but
• 59:14
  he is swinging from a rope that has been broken from the tree.
• 59:20
  He's, you know, this is a where he is been taken over by divine
• 59:28
  madness. You know, I know that I hung
• 59:31
  from a windless tree all nights of nine, given to Odin myself
• 59:36
  unto myself from that tree from which no man knows where of the
• 59:40
  roots rise. None gave me bread, none gave me
• 59:44
  drink. And I took up the runes roaring.
• 59:48
  I took them and fell back from the tree and from a word to a
• 59:53
  word. I was led to a word, from a deed
• 59:57
  to the next deed. And that, you know, it's it's
• 59:59
  kind of a form of divine madness that that happened in this nine
• 1:00:06
  day, nine night initiation where in Nordic terms it was a
• 1:00:13
  shamanic vision quest. Where he sacrificed his own eye
• 1:00:19
  to gain this knowledge. What sane man does this?
• 1:00:24
  So and you know, yeah. So, yeah, I had to, I had to
• 1:00:32
  interject with the with the, the, the, the, the, the
• 1:00:35
  Arunatal. That's what I'm calling that
• 1:00:37
  particular piece. It's great.
• 1:00:39
  It's a great depiction. I love that piece so much.
• 1:00:41
  Yeah. Thank you.
• 1:00:44
  Yeah, I mean, look like you gotta be like you're gonna get
• 1:00:46
  shredded if you're just hanging from a tree for a week and a
• 1:00:49
  half, right? Like you're gonna.
• 1:00:50
  You're gonna get shredded. Especially no food.
• 1:00:53
  Yeah, I mean, 7% body fat tops. Right, it's the it's it's the
• 1:01:01
  Norse shaman cuts like diet system for.
• 1:01:04
  Exactly. Exactly.
• 1:01:06
  Oh. Yeah, love it.
• 1:01:10
  All right, let's move on here. Oh, what we got here.
• 1:01:14
  This is different. This is Rise from the Ashes, and
• 1:01:19
  it is a portrayal of Golvig's ordeal, the goddess that the
• 1:01:29
  goddess Golvig, the creature Golvig the giantess hath.
• 1:01:35
  She was a witch who for her knowledge was burned three times
• 1:01:41
  by the gods, and she came back stronger every time.
• 1:01:47
  She's also called Goldgreed Golvig Goldgreed, and she is
• 1:01:55
  sometimes thought to be an aspect of Freya or Freya
• 1:02:00
  herself. And the burning of Golvig is
• 1:02:04
  what started the war between the gods and she was.
• 1:02:10
  I actually don't remember what happened to her once she was
• 1:02:13
  resurrected a third time, but this particular painting is kind
• 1:02:19
  of a feminist cry of, you know, like in Harry Potter lore,
• 1:02:26
  Phoenix rising from the ashes. Rise from the Ashes is something
• 1:02:31
  that Gullwig did three times over, where she overcame the
• 1:02:39
  torture of being burned. So there we go.
• 1:02:45
  Very intense. Thank you.
• 1:02:50
  Oh. Less intense and very cute.
• 1:02:54
  Yeah, yeah, so youthful and so, so warm, but like, not like fire
• 1:03:01
  warm. Not fire warm, but cozy warm.
• 1:03:05
  You know this is the warm you feel on a really bright late
• 1:03:09
  summer day when the sun is just right.
• 1:03:13
  It gives you comfort instead of sweat.
• 1:03:17
  You know, just enough chill in the air.
• 1:03:19
  This is the goddess Sif. Sif of the golden hair, sick Sif
• 1:03:24
  of the golden grain. She is the personification of
• 1:03:29
  wheat ripening in the field. She's the wife of Thor, who in
• 1:03:36
  the middle of the night one time, Loki cut off all her hair
• 1:03:41
  as a prank and under threat of of death at the hands of the
• 1:03:49
  mighty God Thor, Loki went to the dwarves and commissioned
• 1:03:53
  them to make for her gold hair, spun from real gold that would
• 1:03:59
  attach as soon as it touched her head.
• 1:04:02
  So one of the gifts and treasures that the dwarves made
• 1:04:06
  was Sif's golden hair. And so here she is the field,
• 1:04:10
  she is the grain, she is the voluptuous grains ready for
• 1:04:15
  harvest. And as Thor's wife, she is
• 1:04:21
  fertility. Thor's hammer is often used in
• 1:04:25
  fertility rights. Sif is the product of such
• 1:04:29
  fertility. So that's SIF.
• 1:04:33
  Maybe I'm just a softy for Thor and and Sif and all that,
• 1:04:37
  because, you know, our tribe is, is kind of named after Thor, But
• 1:04:40
  I I really, really like the like how her hair just kind of blends
• 1:04:46
  into the the field of wheat. You know, it's like, where does
• 1:04:48
  her hair end in the field start kind of thing and how the the
• 1:04:54
  you know, the complementary opposites, you know, Thor being
• 1:04:58
  the sort of brash and and energetic and and rageful almost
• 1:05:02
  at times, you know, berserker kind of figure among the a
• 1:05:07
  spear. And then you have the kinder,
• 1:05:09
  the gentler, the softer, the, you know, counterpart of that
• 1:05:12
  and, and, and what that needs with people that yeah, the
• 1:05:15
  balance again, complementary opposites.
• 1:05:18
  Yeah. Yeah, this, this does feel just
• 1:05:20
  this feels like a summer in the UP, not a summer in Tennessee.
• 1:05:24
  No, this is a summer in the UP, Yeah.
• 1:05:28
  Yeah, yeah, very nice. Love it.
• 1:05:31
  Thank you. The Sif, Not Sif, the and I.
• 1:05:36
  It's the Scavi collection. I wrote Sif on there by mistake.
• 1:05:40
  Scavi's one of my favorite favorite goddesses.
• 1:05:43
  She is actually a giant. She was the daughter of Thiazzi,
• 1:05:49
  and she came to Asgard to avenge her father's death.
• 1:05:57
  She is a goddess of winter, of archery hunting, and she's often
• 1:06:04
  depicted as the goddess on skis. She lives in the mountains, so
• 1:06:09
  of course she's a Rhyme Thurs. She's a mountain giant.
• 1:06:14
  Giant, at any rate. Anyhow, she's one of my
• 1:06:17
  favorites because winter is my favorite time of year and
• 1:06:20
  normally in the UP we are neck deep in snow.
• 1:06:26
  So snowing, snowshoeing, skiing, hunting are are big, big
• 1:06:32
  activities up here. So she gets scabby gets a lot
• 1:06:37
  more attention because it's her home.
• 1:06:39
  It's. Like it's like home turf for
• 1:06:41
  Scottie. Yeah, it's home turf.
• 1:06:43
  Yes, yeah. And so, yeah, she's a she's a
• 1:06:47
  favorite. And she had as a weird Guild in
• 1:06:56
  exchange for the death of her father, she was able to choose
• 1:07:02
  any husband that she wanted from the Acer.
• 1:07:06
  But there was a cat. She had to choose her husband by
• 1:07:10
  their feet, not their faces. So a lineup of gods ensued and
• 1:07:18
  she chose the God that had the most beautiful feet among the
• 1:07:23
  gods, thinking that she got a prize and was going to end up
• 1:07:28
  marrying the beautiful God Baldur.
• 1:07:31
  But it wasn't Baldur's feet that she chose, it was the the sea
• 1:07:37
  God Nyord. So she she married Nyord, but
• 1:07:43
  they were not particularly happy because she liked the winter and
• 1:07:47
  she liked the mountains and Nyord like the sea and the sound
• 1:07:52
  of the wind and the waves. So they I think they ended up
• 1:07:56
  parting ways or at least. Yeah.
• 1:08:00
  That's yeah, they end. I'd love to know how that's that
• 1:08:04
  ended. Maybe I'll have to write
• 1:08:06
  something about that. Yeah, I, I forget the specifics,
• 1:08:09
  but they, they lasted up, you know, they lasted so long, you
• 1:08:12
  know, like it was, it was a. Season No, just can't do it.
• 1:08:14
  You can't do it. They had to go back like they
• 1:08:17
  have to like, go back and forth, like, let's like, let's live by
• 1:08:20
  the sea or then let's live in the mountains.
• 1:08:22
  And it was like, look, man, we can't.
• 1:08:23
  I can't do this. These long distance
• 1:08:26
  relationships man, just it's not happening.
• 1:08:30
  Yeah, and, and, and another moral of the story, kids, is
• 1:08:33
  that if you want beautiful feet, the beach is where it's at.
• 1:08:39
  I love that. Yes, yeah.
• 1:08:41
  The sandal they'll exfoliate. And give me those.
• 1:08:44
  It's all that exfoliating sand. Yeah, that'll.
• 1:08:47
  That'll make for beautiful feet. Yeah.
• 1:08:49
  Awesome. Suna.
• 1:08:57
  We had Mani a few slides back who was the depiction of the
• 1:09:01
  moon. And now we have Suna, the
• 1:09:03
  depiction of the sun. And I actually she's she's based
• 1:09:12
  on Marilyn Monroe because there's something about Marilyn
• 1:09:16
  Monroe's very brilliant that it's like that is the, you know,
• 1:09:21
  that is the sun. You can.
• 1:09:24
  See that? Yeah.
• 1:09:25
  That's that's about as deep as that piece gets.
• 1:09:29
  I could see that now that you mention it, I can see the the
• 1:09:32
  waves, the curls, the way her blonde hair would, would just.
• 1:09:36
  And she was larger than life. Like the sun, Yeah.
• 1:09:42
  Wow, The Wanderer. This is both the the the
• 1:09:49
  graphite piece in the corner is the study I did for the larger
• 1:09:54
  painting The Wanderer, and it it again is a depiction of Odin
• 1:10:02
  after his ordeal on the tree. So in the way, way background is
• 1:10:07
  the tree of course, and in the in the piece itself you can see
• 1:10:11
  tatters of rope hanging from the tree.
• 1:10:14
  Now in the clouds are Odin's wolves, Jerry and Frecky.
• 1:10:20
  So the crowd. Themselves are, are wolves and
• 1:10:23
  we've got the the Ravens, Hugin and Munin.
• 1:10:27
  And many times I will depict the the night sky in Odin's cloak.
• 1:10:34
  So if, if you can see it close at all, there's Starlight in the
• 1:10:41
  Milky Way in, in Odin's cloak. And I, I actually used my
• 1:10:47
  husband as the model. So yes, portraiture at his best.
• 1:11:00
  This is this is actually the large painting is an acrylic
• 1:11:04
  piece and the study is graphite. I think things froze up and I
• 1:11:18
  depict Odin's cloak. You'll see Starlight in the
• 1:11:23
  cloak because sometimes I'll use it to the night sky.
• 1:11:29
  And the big painting itself is is an acrylic and the study was
• 1:11:37
  the study is graphite. Yeah, and he's still that, that
• 1:11:42
  that old man kind of cut and lean, you know, coming off of
• 1:11:45
  this tree. Like he knows something now.
• 1:11:48
  Very. He knows a lot of stuff now.
• 1:11:50
  Yeah, yeah, He's got this. He's got this kind of air about
• 1:11:53
  him. He's walking this, this, this
• 1:11:54
  strut almost in a way, this, this stride.
• 1:11:56
  Like, man, I've seen some things and some stuff, yeah.
• 1:12:00
  Yeah, he's definitely seen a few things.
• 1:12:06
  Awesome, I love the Odin pieces. Thank you all.
• 1:12:13
  Right and. Oh, the Weaver.
• 1:12:19
  Very colorful. The Weaver.
• 1:12:21
  Yeah, Thank you. It's sometimes this is how I'll
• 1:12:25
  see Frigga. And again, she's got this, the
• 1:12:29
  DIS staff out out in front of her and the Norns in the
• 1:12:34
  mountain, they are spinning and casting Nets out to the sea.
• 1:12:40
  And in in the illustration itself, there are forests in the
• 1:12:45
  in the sea coming from the weaving.
• 1:12:48
  There are different scenes that are are woven into this net that
• 1:12:53
  is cast into the waves. So yeah, it's a continuation of
• 1:12:58
  of the weaving theme that is in a lot of my work.
• 1:13:06
  Side note, I'm up until the last couple years I was a Weaver as
• 1:13:11
  well, and I find that weaving is a really good way to do save
• 1:13:18
  work and a really good outlet for things like sympathetic
• 1:13:25
  magic. Here's an example.
• 1:13:28
  In a dream I I had one of my small looms and I had it all
• 1:13:35
  laid out for tablet weaving. And tablet weaving is one of
• 1:13:38
  those wonderful ancient artifacts that we have historic
• 1:13:45
  samples of from the Viking era. Anyhow, obsession took up tablet
• 1:13:51
  weaving. I'm dreaming weaving and I have
• 1:13:55
  a lot of chase dreams because I have a rather traumatic past.
• 1:13:59
  But I found in the dream I could manipulate the warp and weft in
• 1:14:04
  the dream to change the scenario of what was happening in the
• 1:14:09
  dream. So I could direct it and direct
• 1:14:12
  myself to safety on different strands within my weaving.
• 1:14:16
  Either I could go this way or that way according to the
• 1:14:19
  different warps and wefts that were happening on my loom in the
• 1:14:24
  dream. So it's like such delicious
• 1:14:28
  cunnings that's that come from the these ancient skills that
• 1:14:36
  many of our forebears did use to travel with the mind.
• 1:14:41
  So cool, cool stuff. Yeah, definitely.
• 1:14:46
  It has to be so empowering too. I feel it is.
• 1:14:50
  When When you find the tools to protect yourself, even in a
• 1:14:54
  dream, that's powerful stuff for an art.
• 1:15:00
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, like I say, you, you
• 1:15:02
  know, whether you do it again or whether you do it now or not, it
• 1:15:05
  you've kind of found the outlet through your art to, to depict
• 1:15:09
  it and bring it to life, You know, and, and I love the
• 1:15:13
  integration of the mountains and the sea and just that whole the
• 1:15:17
  landscape of where the lore, you know, the Norse lore comes from.
• 1:15:22
  It was mountainous. It was by it was, you know, near
• 1:15:25
  the, near the sea there, there there's a, a blend of, of these
• 1:15:29
  landscapes and it's, it's, it's, it's, it's integrated
• 1:15:33
  beautifully in this, in this piece.
• 1:15:36
  I feel really nicely done. Thank you so much.
• 1:15:42
  Oh wow. This is one of my all time
• 1:15:45
  favorite pieces I go. Oh, I mean, I just go oh wow,
• 1:15:49
  wow. Yeah, this this is both the same
• 1:15:54
  piece, but the larger image is just a detail of the Wild Hunt.
• 1:16:03
  Odin is often depicted as the Lord of the Wild Hunt and at
• 1:16:10
  Yule, if you are caught out unaware on this longest, darkest
• 1:16:16
  night of the year, Odin and his wild host is out there going to
• 1:16:23
  collect those who are, who are lost and wandering.
• 1:16:27
  And so I have got in the background a band of warriors,
• 1:16:32
  ghostly warriors kind of foraging through the snow and
• 1:16:38
  the mist behind Odin on Slapner. Now I I don't have a Slapner
• 1:16:44
  depicted as an 8 legged horse because I'm I was going more for
• 1:16:52
  what could actually happen in a snowy field, what you could
• 1:16:58
  actually see and a fun note about my model for Odin.
• 1:17:08
  Some of your older people in your audience will know of a
• 1:17:13
  skeptic called the Amazing Randy.
• 1:17:18
  And now I can't remember his name.
• 1:17:21
  Shoot the Amazing Randy. At any rate, all anyone has to
• 1:17:26
  do is is Google the Amazing Randy.
• 1:17:28
  And he, he was a magician and a skeptic and he had $1,000,000
• 1:17:35
  challenge that he was, he was really good for debunking fake
• 1:17:40
  shit. So for any of your listeners,
• 1:17:44
  look up the Amazing Randy. He was my model for this
• 1:17:49
  particular painting. In fact, I had, I had emailed
• 1:17:54
  him to ask his permission to use his image and I I sold him the
• 1:17:59
  very first print of I sent him the very first print that I made
• 1:18:05
  off of this particular painting. So it was.
• 1:18:08
  James, Randy. Yes, yes, James, Randy, the
• 1:18:12
  amazing Randy, he was brilliant. He passed away a couple years
• 1:18:17
  back and yeah, he, he just was an amazing, amazing, brilliant
• 1:18:24
  man. So, Randall James Hamilton's
• 1:18:28
  whinge. Yeah, he's got the white beard,
• 1:18:31
  very Odinic kind of look to him. Yeah, so I, I thought it was
• 1:18:35
  really kind of cool that I had an atheist skeptic depicting the
• 1:18:41
  Odin, and I'm sure he got a kick out of that too.
• 1:18:44
  Yeah. I think that atheist, you know,
• 1:18:49
  I really like this piece, though Saga.
• 1:18:51
  I love the the, the the frosty kind of abysmal, you know, feel
• 1:18:58
  that, that, that this piece has the, the, the shading, the
• 1:19:01
  color, you know, it, it's not very vibrant.
• 1:19:03
  It's, it's, it's just again, it's a bit more abysmal and dark
• 1:19:06
  as the wild hunt is, you know, and how we would depict or, or
• 1:19:12
  or maybe imagine such an event to be.
• 1:19:14
  There's a few a few things, you know, again, Odin in his blue
• 1:19:18
  cloak and all that, a few red, but just otherwise just a very,
• 1:19:22
  you know. Stark Yeah.
• 1:19:24
  Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's a it's a
• 1:19:27
  favorite. It's one of those pieces where I
• 1:19:29
  worked on it and I could feel the breath of the horses.
• 1:19:33
  I could feel the snow, I could feel the mist.
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  It was just a totally. Immersive.
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  The The roar of the storm. Yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah, it was very alive for me. I can tell it comes through.
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  It really does. Here he is.
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  Thor, Thor and the Midgard Serpent and and.
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  He's he's red bearded. He's red bearded in this.
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  Yes, he is red bearded like he is in the lore, not in Marvel
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  fame. Chris Hemsworth is is not the
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  the the lore, the Thor of lore. He is not the Thor of lore.
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  He is. He is the Marvel Thor.
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  Oh my very favorite actor that did Thor was in the movie
• 1:20:31
  Adventures with in Babysitting. Have you ever seen Adventures in
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  Babysitting? It doesn't ring a bell.
• 1:20:40
  OK, it's an 80s movie anyhow. Men in Black.
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  Oh yeah. OK, the guy that played Edgar.
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  Yep, I know what you're talking about.
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  He did a depiction of Thor that was absolutely fantastic.
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  So if you get a chance, look up Adventures in Babysitting and
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  and the hymn is Thor. It's really, really good.
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  It's too cool. But yeah, Thor is the God of
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  Thunder. He is the son of Odin and the
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  earth, the goddess Yord. He is.
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  He wields the mighty hammer Mullner.
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  He wears iron gloves so he can actually wield Mullner and he is
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  the defender of the gods. He is the the God of the common
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  man. So throughout ancient Nordic
• 1:21:44
  Europe, Thor was usually the go to over Odin because he was more
• 1:21:50
  accessible than than Odin who could be more formidable.
• 1:21:56
  His hammer was often used in fertility rites to fertilize a
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  bride, to fertilize a field. The Thunder was said to
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  fertilize the fields, and a few slides back we saw his
• 1:22:10
  counterpart, the gentle Sith who represents the grain in the
• 1:22:15
  field ripening from the fertile, fertile storms.
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  So yeah, he's, he's he's kind of like in the image on the left
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  where he's got this, you know, Thunderbolt striking behind him
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  and, you know, his hair is like all kind of wild and crazy.
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  You know. That, that bit of like of a
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  dynamic, yeah, like the, like a berserker frenzy.
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  You know, I, I've always, I've always thought of Thor as the,
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  you know, action first, think later, you know, type of guy.
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  He's not, he's not, he's not tactical really.
• 1:22:52
  He's just when you need to get something done.
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  Strategy. Nah, yeah.
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  Brute force. Oh yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah. The strongest of the gods, the
• 1:23:02
  champion of the gods, you know, the, the the Thunderer, Like he,
• 1:23:05
  he bears all of these cannings. These these these you know for a
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  reason. Yeah.
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  Yeah, I love it. And I remember now when you were
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  talking about I, I had to look it up the, you know, adventures
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  in Babysitting where he's, you know, blue, blue, blue tank top,
• 1:23:24
  a Scandinavian blind looking like a plumber kind of heel.
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  But yeah, I know you're talking about now.
• 1:23:28
  Have a look at this. Yeah, bug in an Eggar suit.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think one of my favorite
• 1:23:36
  depictions in in pop culture recently is in the God of War
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  video game. You know, and I don't play the
• 1:23:49
  video game, but the way that that Thor is depicted in, in God
• 1:23:57
  of War, the newest God of War, God of War Ragnarok and all
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  that, you know who Ryan Hurst is.
• 1:24:05
  No. So he, if you, if you like Sons
• 1:24:09
  of Anarchy, he was, he was Opie and Sons of Anarchy.
• 1:24:12
  He he was in a, a show, I think outlanders or, or or something
• 1:24:17
  like that. Anyway, he's the he's the voice
• 1:24:21
  of the digital character in the video game, but in the video
• 1:24:25
  game, like Thor is depicted. Yeah, Thor, Thor, if you just
• 1:24:29
  Google like Thor, God of War, he he looks like power lifter.
• 1:24:33
  He's got a big beer belly. He's massive, red haired,
• 1:24:37
  scruffy looking. And it's like that's the Thor
• 1:24:41
  that I think of when I think like of of the the the Norse
• 1:24:45
  myths. Not, not a not a, you know, 7%
• 1:24:49
  body fat 6 pack. Abs.
• 1:24:52
  You know, blonde beach boy kind of guy.
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  Yeah, yes, you know, somewhat more substantial, more
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  realistic. Yeah, he's got to be able to
• 1:25:03
  carry all of that weight, you know.
• 1:25:07
  Yep, yeah. But oh wow, I like this one here
• 1:25:13
  tear. Tear tear Tear is another
• 1:25:18
  favorite I'll tear is tear is complicated.
• 1:25:28
  He is in in my innings the God of self sacrifice.
• 1:25:35
  He he was the only person or only one of the gods that could
• 1:25:41
  handle the wolf Fenris. So he raised this being from a
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  pup, so he nurtured, he cared for, he fed the beast.
• 1:25:52
  He cared for and loved this. This being Fenris, who is one of
• 1:25:59
  Loki's monstrous children. And the beast.
• 1:26:02
  Fenris grew too big, too fast on tears.
• 1:26:07
  Love that he became dangerous and in the lore because he was a
• 1:26:15
  danger and prophesied to be one of Odin's biggest shoot words
• 1:26:28
  gone enemies. Yeah, he's Odin's demise.
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  I mean, I mean. Yeah, Odin meets his demise in
• 1:26:35
  the in the mouth of the wolf Fenris.
• 1:26:38
  So they want to keep this from happening.
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  So they go to the dwarves to bind the wolf.
• 1:26:47
  And of course, they make it a challenge.
• 1:26:49
  And it's like, bitch, you can't break this one.
• 1:26:52
  So they bind Fenris with this sturdy chain that the dwarves
• 1:26:57
  have made, and he goes and it's gone.
• 1:27:01
  The chain breaks into millions and millions of pieces.
• 1:27:05
  Like it's nothing. So they go back to the dwarves.
• 1:27:08
  We need a stronger chain. This this wolf is out of hand.
• 1:27:12
  So they get a stronger chain. It's like, bitch can't break
• 1:27:15
  this one. And again, Fenris breaks the
• 1:27:21
  this heavy chain that they had laid upon him.
• 1:27:24
  So they go back to the dwarves the third time and say, look, we
• 1:27:29
  need something that doesn't look too dangerous that but for real
• 1:27:36
  for reels, we need. So they, the dwarves,
• 1:27:40
  constructed this delicate ribbon called Gleep Near and it was
• 1:27:44
  made from the breath of a cat or the footfall of a cat.
• 1:27:48
  A beautiful woman and a lot of other magical, magical,
• 1:27:54
  insubstantial things went into this ribbon Gleep Near.
• 1:28:00
  And so they present this to the wolf.
• 1:28:04
  And it's like, wait a minute. Yeah, it's.
• 1:28:06
  Kind of right, they gone. Yeah, very suspicious, guys.
• 1:28:12
  It's like this little thing. No, man, I I suspect magic.
• 1:28:16
  So Fenris would not let them put the ribbon upon him unless
• 1:28:22
  someone was willing to sacrifice their own well-being in exchange
• 1:28:29
  for this challenge. So his own foster father, for
• 1:28:37
  lack of a better word, Tear offered his right hand to the
• 1:28:42
  beast, the hand that fed him. And as he found he could not
• 1:28:50
  escape from the ribbons, Tear lost his hand to the beast in a
• 1:28:57
  betrayal that probably rended the heart of both Fenris and
• 1:29:04
  Tear is he put a lot of love into this beast and feeding him
• 1:29:08
  and nurturing him and making him grow as big as he did.
• 1:29:15
  He was loved, he was cared for. And it's like to me Tears also
• 1:29:20
  the God of of this kind of grief for the greater group of the
• 1:29:26
  gods and all the world's he had to bind his own foster child and
• 1:29:36
  that that had to that had to rend his own heart and being so
• 1:29:42
  tear. Yeah, man, the agony if you
• 1:29:46
  think about. Agony.
• 1:29:47
  Yeah. It's like you can't help but you
• 1:29:50
  know, when you go deeper into the lore and realize what what
• 1:29:55
  did they actually go through? What was the madness of Odin
• 1:29:59
  like? What was the betrayal of Fenris
• 1:30:01
  like? What was it like to parent this
• 1:30:04
  beast and know that you have to imprison them so.
• 1:30:12
  I can see it in his face. I think again, art being
• 1:30:16
  subjective, you know if if this was intended or not.
• 1:30:20
  But in tears face, there's this grief, there's this sadness,
• 1:30:24
  there's this despondent emotion shown in his expression.
• 1:30:30
  Just I can't believe I have to do this, you know, not his, not
• 1:30:34
  his pain, not the pain of losing his hand, but the pain of the
• 1:30:38
  Eid. Of betrayal.
• 1:30:40
  Yeah. The hand is a small price and
• 1:30:44
  you know, kind of makes me wonder if if that's where the,
• 1:30:46
  the saying biting the hand that feeds you comes from.
• 1:30:52
  Oh yeah. Wow, yeah, I could see that
• 1:30:56
  great, great depiction of the emotional.
• 1:30:59
  Thank you. Yeah.
• 1:31:00
  Yeah, yeah, it's, it's palpable. Yeah, I have to step away just
• 1:31:05
  for a second and grab my charger.
• 1:31:07
  So up. Yeah, sure, all.
• 1:31:10
  Right. Yeah, tears, tears, the agony, I
• 1:31:14
  mean, just all of that. Yeah.
• 1:31:17
  And that I think that actually does complete this slide of the
• 1:31:20
  Norse lore. Awesome.
• 1:31:24
  Thing So yeah, that's the that's the last slide on the on the
• 1:31:27
  Norse lore, I think. There's only like 5 slides on
• 1:31:32
  the other end because it was a miscellaneous.
• 1:31:35
  Yeah, yeah. The other one we'll go into real
• 1:31:38
  quick here if you don't mind. No, not at all.
• 1:31:41
  But. Just as a recap, I got to say
• 1:31:44
  like, what a, what a journey, you know, for me at least,
• 1:31:48
  having only seen these for the first time.
• 1:31:50
  And for anybody that's, you know, listening or watching that
• 1:31:53
  has seen saga's work before that it's, you know, a treat maybe
• 1:31:59
  for you to, to see and to hear more of the, the details of, of
• 1:32:03
  what went into it all. I just have to say personally
• 1:32:06
  speaking from the perspective of somebody seeing this artwork for
• 1:32:13
  the first time, but also getting the chance to kind of go into a
• 1:32:16
  deep dive analysis of each piece.
• 1:32:18
  What a treat. I love, I love what you've done.
• 1:32:22
  I, I, I think they're beautiful representations, you know,
• 1:32:26
  again, art being subjective, you know, some people I'm, I'm sure
• 1:32:29
  are going to have critiques or whatever when they see it, but
• 1:32:32
  who cares? I mean, I, I loved it.
• 1:32:34
  It was great. I loved some of the, the even
• 1:32:37
  down to like the background of certain things, you know, like
• 1:32:41
  what was depicted in the background or in the foreground
• 1:32:45
  even, or how I was able to like perceive or, or interpret the
• 1:32:49
  art. It took me for a journey that I
• 1:32:52
  wasn't expecting and I enjoyed it.
• 1:32:54
  I loved it and awesome. I'm impressed.
• 1:32:58
  So thank you so much for for wanting to share.
• 1:33:02
  I this is how I keep the lore alive when folklore and
• 1:33:11
  storytelling has always, always been a part of my makeup.
• 1:33:17
  I grew up in the 60s and 70s and so I saw fantastic TVTV was my
• 1:33:25
  babysitter and I saw things like Bewitched when it was still
• 1:33:31
  black and white. I saw A Dream of Jeannie when it
• 1:33:35
  first came out. I saw Dark Shadows when it still
• 1:33:39
  came out. And these stories were so
• 1:33:42
  enthralling to me. And you know, the stories that I
• 1:33:46
  was read as a child. I wanted to illustrate all of
• 1:33:49
  this stuff, and then I discovered the runes and the
• 1:33:54
  Norse lore that went with all of these wonderful staves, and I
• 1:34:01
  have to illustrate it. I, you know, it's one of those
• 1:34:04
  drives I have to keep the lore alive.
• 1:34:09
  And the best way I can do it is by my own painting of these
• 1:34:14
  pictures, my own feeling of the journey, like here's, here's an
• 1:34:20
  obscure goddess. Here we go.
• 1:34:23
  This is the goddess Lynn. That again, these, these are
• 1:34:33
  things that I have to live it. I have to feel it and it's me.
• 1:34:39
  It's just one of those enthralling things that then
• 1:34:42
  informs more deeds from a word to a word, from an image to an
• 1:34:48
  image, from a story to a story. I'm led to the next one and it
• 1:34:54
  becomes expansive. And the runic journeys that go
• 1:34:59
  with it. I can illustrate the journeys as
• 1:35:02
  they're happening. I have, I have.
• 1:35:06
  I have to show you my latest. Piece.
• 1:35:09
  Yes, you do. I agree.
• 1:35:13
  OK, we should see it. I just finished this.
• 1:35:20
  There we go. I will.
• 1:35:26
  I will send you a slide of this. This is the Norns.
• 1:35:33
  I love it. I just had to move move room
• 1:35:35
  myself from screen so everybody could see a better.
• 1:35:38
  That's OK. That's OK.
• 1:35:39
  This, this picture is actually the very last illustration in
• 1:35:45
  the lore book that should be published by Yule, and it's a
• 1:35:51
  picture of the Nords rising from the water and the wells.
• 1:35:57
  The three wells are beneath them and from both the Northern
• 1:36:01
  Lights I'm going to stick the thingy up again in there we go
• 1:36:08
  The the Norns are rising from the wells and both Northern
• 1:36:14
  Lights and the sea are the threads that they are spinning
• 1:36:19
  and that they're weaving and then they're cutting.
• 1:36:22
  So we've got or the Verdandian skulls spinning and weaving and
• 1:36:27
  cutting the threads, and is the last storm is cutting the
• 1:36:31
  threads of life. A new dawn happens after
• 1:36:40
  Ragnarok and the rainbow leads you to Valhalla into Asgard.
• 1:36:52
  Wow, you know, and that's. My latest piece.
• 1:36:57
  That is such a, you know, 'cause what do we have when we, when we
• 1:37:00
  talk about telling stories, right?
• 1:37:03
  We, we have, we have this scenario where a person is or
• 1:37:09
  rating in front of an audience or in front of, you know,
• 1:37:13
  whatever the audience might be, whether it's around a hearth
• 1:37:15
  fire or whether it's in front of an arena or whatever it is,
• 1:37:18
  right, Or ritual, right? You have a person or rating and
• 1:37:22
  telling a story. It invokes images in our mind's
• 1:37:28
  eye as the audience receiving is right.
• 1:37:30
  We're picturing this thing happening in our mind's eye.
• 1:37:34
  We're coming up with our own individual perspectives or
• 1:37:38
  whatever. And, and, and here we have, you
• 1:37:41
  know, the, the, the orators or, or, or the artist's vision being
• 1:37:47
  brought to life before us to see what they're seeing.
• 1:37:50
  And, and we're experiencing a bit of their meaning, your
• 1:37:54
  perspective and drawing to our own conclusions or, or, or, or
• 1:38:00
  again, art being as subjective as it is, receiving some of our
• 1:38:05
  own imagery, right and coming up with our own things about it.
• 1:38:09
  And how enriching and how rewarding is that to, to, to put
• 1:38:12
  a, a face to the name, you know, to think about the story of Thor
• 1:38:17
  fighting Yorman Gander, right, or whatever.
• 1:38:19
  Now we have a picture to go with it and it's sure it's one
• 1:38:22
  artist's rendition of it or version of it, but yet it's.
• 1:38:25
  And it's gonna be money. Yeah.
• 1:38:28
  Yeah, like a lot of a lot of my my work doesn't depict the rah
• 1:38:34
  rah Viking kind of aspect of things.
• 1:38:37
  It's more of the subconscious, the more fluid interpretation of
• 1:38:46
  how I see the gods and goddesses and aspects of nature.
• 1:38:51
  Yes, now you know, and I, I have to say, like you definitely have
• 1:38:54
  a theme, you know, you definitely have a, your art is
• 1:39:00
  unique. Like I think if anybody sees a
• 1:39:02
  piece and, and, and sees other pieces, that's like that's a
• 1:39:05
  saga piece, right? My my my style is is pretty
• 1:39:09
  consistent. Exactly.
• 1:39:13
  Yeah, I, I, I can from, from the 24, you know, slides that we saw
• 1:39:17
  in the various images, it's like, I definitely know from
• 1:39:20
  that that I'm looking at the same artist and and that's
• 1:39:26
  great. You know, I love the
• 1:39:28
  consistency, how you depict the gods, what what the gods and,
• 1:39:34
  and the lore and, and how you connect with it, how it speaks
• 1:39:37
  to you and how you're able to to portray that for all of us.
• 1:39:41
  I think it's really nicely done. And and yeah, thank you so much.
• 1:39:46
  It's a treat. It's again.
• 1:39:48
  You're very welcome. Do you want to touch on this?
• 1:39:53
  There's a there's AI. Think you said it's called a
• 1:39:55
  GNOME series. Oh yes, my Gnome series.
• 1:40:00
  Do you want to go on that real? Quick, Sure, sure.
• 1:40:02
  It's it's a real quickie I have. I have just a few of the pieces
• 1:40:10
  from the Gnome series on this slide.
• 1:40:13
  And the Gnome series is is actually based on on mine and my
• 1:40:24
  husband's life in our sustainability experiment.
• 1:40:30
  We do things very, very old fashioned here and at one time
• 1:40:35
  we were historic reenactors. So a lot of my GNOME series is
• 1:40:41
  informed by late late 19th century technology and
• 1:40:50
  especially fur trade type of of stuff.
• 1:40:53
  So these are three of of my gnome depictions.
• 1:41:00
  We've got winter camp, we've got the hearth and we have the
• 1:41:06
  greeting. And I I actually have an
• 1:41:11
  illustration project lined up once I finished the Norse lore
• 1:41:16
  book for one of my cousins who's a a published poet writing a
• 1:41:23
  story about her gnomes from a Dutch point of view, because
• 1:41:29
  half of my family is from the Netherlands.
• 1:41:32
  So I'll be illustrating a book depicting a story about the
• 1:41:39
  gnomes from an A perspective from the Netherlands.
• 1:41:49
  Any you know. So that's that's the Gnome
• 1:41:52
  series. Yeah, the gnomes, I mean like
• 1:41:54
  gnomes as as a word, like there's there's different names
• 1:41:58
  for them in different cultures. Like there's the Nisa, there's
• 1:42:02
  the Tomte, like very like Norwegian, I think is is a very.
• 1:42:08
  And Tomte and the floor. Yeah.
• 1:42:12
  And I know in the Netherlands they're called kabuters.
• 1:42:17
  Yeah, yeah, there's, there's so much folklore in, in, in
• 1:42:20
  Northern Europe that surrounds these, these little people or
• 1:42:23
  these little unseen spirits. And, and for the, for the, for
• 1:42:26
  the listeners, yes, the housewives, right.
• 1:42:29
  The the the spirits of the home, they they kind of are a
• 1:42:33
  representation of the inhabitants of the hearth and
• 1:42:37
  home. Yeah.
• 1:42:38
  In in in a lot of folklore and. In my my versions, they depict a
• 1:42:44
  lot of our life. And these are some illustrations
• 1:42:48
  from one of Kurt's books. Kurt Hoogstrat is one of my best
• 1:42:53
  friends and he wrote he, he's written four books now, but it's
• 1:42:59
  his last two. I had the great privilege of
• 1:43:03
  being able to do the illustrations and layouts for
• 1:43:06
  his books. So this is these are just some
• 1:43:08
  of the the pen and ink pieces that I did for for a couple of
• 1:43:13
  his books. Do you remember the name of the
• 1:43:16
  books that these illustrations would be seen in?
• 1:43:20
  Yeah, the one is Let There Be Light and it is available
• 1:43:25
  through Amazon by Kurt Hoogstrat.
• 1:43:27
  And the other one is, hang on a SEC, I'm just going to grab it
• 1:43:32
  off the bookshelf. Yeah.
• 1:43:41
  OK, here we are. It is Esoteric Musings, the
• 1:43:47
  workings of a Druid and Vitki, and this is available through
• 1:43:53
  Amazon. All of all of Kurt's works.
• 1:43:57
  What? I was saying esoteric works of a
• 1:44:00
  of a druid and Vicki. I have Vicki Musings by Kurt
• 1:44:03
  Hoogstrat 1. Of his and that is part of this
• 1:44:07
  book Vitsky musings and Druid musings.
• 1:44:12
  He he combined into one book and I I was so thrilled to be able
• 1:44:18
  to do the illustrations for this book.
• 1:44:20
  And here's one you might recognize in black and white if
• 1:44:26
  I can get my page straight. There we go, the Wild Hunt in
• 1:44:30
  black and white. Tada, yes, there it is.
• 1:44:36
  Yep, and remove the screen sharing just so the way people
• 1:44:40
  could see it. That's fine.
• 1:44:42
  We'll, we'll we'll post links for that too 'cause Kurt is is
• 1:44:46
  a. Kurt's a good guy.
• 1:44:48
  Yeah, he he's so cool, man. I love it.
• 1:44:51
  He really wins. Alright, so yeah.
• 1:44:57
  And these these also featured in Kurt's book.
• 1:45:01
  These are these are some of my portrait works in graphite.
• 1:45:06
  And yeah, these are various portraits.
• 1:45:08
  One is based on old photos from the late 19th century.
• 1:45:14
  And the the one on the bottom in the center was actually a photo
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  I had taken when in my photography days of a young girl
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  keeping her puppy warm. So it was just kind of a fun
• 1:45:31
  piece and I could work on, I call it shelter from the storm
• 1:45:37
  because it was really, really windy and her Chihuahua pup was
• 1:45:40
  just freezing. So she's got them all wrapped up
• 1:45:42
  in a blankie. So.
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  But yeah, these are pieces that also ended up in Kurt's book.
• 1:45:50
  Very nice. Thank you.
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  And these are from a book I'm working on.
• 1:46:00
  Yes, yes. This is a memoir from some of my
• 1:46:06
  experiences in the last 60 years.
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  And so these are from some of my dreams and some of the things I
• 1:46:17
  imagined as a little girl. And the book will be called
• 1:46:21
  Skeletons in the Closet. So it'll be kind of a
• 1:46:24
  combination of of humor and anecdotes and tragedies and a
• 1:46:30
  life well lived. Wow, wow.
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  So, visions from your mind's eye.
• 1:46:38
  Yes, yeah. Wow, see this type of stuff
• 1:46:43
  really fascinates me. When a person who has these
• 1:46:47
  types of subconscious visions and experiences have, you know,
• 1:46:52
  when, when they have the, the capacity to remember enough of
• 1:46:57
  it to put it to paper or acrylic or whatever the, the substance
• 1:47:02
  might be right to, to materialize these visions.
• 1:47:04
  Like do do do people realize like for the like, again, if
• 1:47:08
  you're listening to this and, and you've made it this far in
• 1:47:11
  the podcast and you haven't become a patron on Patreon to
• 1:47:14
  watch this, what you're seeing here is stuff that nobody else
• 1:47:17
  has ever portrayed. Yeah, nobody's seen this yet.
• 1:47:21
  Nobody's seen this yet. This is This is exclusive,
• 1:47:26
  right? This is, this is a treat.
• 1:47:28
  And that, and that's putting it mildly.
• 1:47:30
  But I mean, like, you know, there's, there's plenty of
• 1:47:33
  artists out there that have kind of done a similar thing before
• 1:47:36
  where, you know, they, they, they paint or they draw or they
• 1:47:38
  depict something that they've had in terms of a vision.
• 1:47:41
  But this is your vision or these are your visions.
• 1:47:45
  These are your depictions. And we're seeing this now, you
• 1:47:48
  know, in this format and in this way for the first time, right?
• 1:47:55
  This isn't published. Yeah.
• 1:47:57
  This particular slide, none of these pieces have been
• 1:48:00
  published. What an honor.
• 1:48:02
  Oh my goodness. Oh, thank you.
• 1:48:04
  Wow. Thank you.
• 1:48:09
  Some color pieces here. This is this is a sneak peek
• 1:48:14
  from the lore book. These these two these have never
• 1:48:18
  been been seen in public. So this these are a sneak peek
• 1:48:22
  for the the books that should be coming out at Yule Wow.
• 1:48:26
  And these are different depictions from the Voluspa.
• 1:48:34
  Which is a rich poem. I mean, it's a it's one.
• 1:48:37
  Of the one of my favorites. Of, of what we would consider a
• 1:48:41
  primary source of the Codex Regis, you know, and to have
• 1:48:47
  imagery to put to yeah, wow, what a treat Saga.
• 1:48:54
  I, I, I can't I and that's the end of that one.
• 1:48:56
  That's, that's, that's all we got.
• 1:48:59
  And that's what we needed to get.
• 1:49:00
  That was goodness gracious sakes a lot.
• 1:49:03
  Boy, I can't even, I can't even put into words the excitement
• 1:49:07
  of, of being given this privilege and this opportunity
• 1:49:11
  to, to sit here with you and, and go through this.
• 1:49:14
  And then for the viewers, I mean, listen guys, for those of
• 1:49:18
  you on Patreon that are watching this, consider yourselves
• 1:49:23
  blessed and honored as well as I am to sit here and, and, and see
• 1:49:28
  everything that you've seen. And for the listeners that are
• 1:49:32
  are hearing this, do yourselves a favor.
• 1:49:36
  I mean, it ain't but a dollar. And you know, if you don't, if
• 1:49:40
  you don't renew it, I don't care.
• 1:49:41
  Just come and and pledge the dollar to be able to see all of
• 1:49:46
  this stuff in full that we've gone now, you know, or that
• 1:49:49
  we've gone over now for for over an hour and a half, almost
• 1:49:52
  almost an hour and 45 minutes. This is first of all, Saga, a
• 1:49:56
  tremendous amount of time that you've dedicated for us to be
• 1:50:01
  able to go through this. Thank you so very much for for
• 1:50:04
  doing this. You're very welcome.
• 1:50:06
  This is time well spent, I feel. At least, you know, for me as,
• 1:50:11
  as, as the host here, I, I feel infinitely blessed to, to, to
• 1:50:15
  have shared this time with you today.
• 1:50:17
  So thank you so very much for the listeners, for the viewers.
• 1:50:20
  Guys, I can't stress enough, the gift that we've all been given
• 1:50:26
  here and, and, and saga. I, I, I, I want to say too, I
• 1:50:31
  feel like this is some, this is a gift that can keep on giving
• 1:50:34
  in, in, in terms of inspiration, you know, do you feel, do you
• 1:50:38
  feel like doing stuff like this can inspire others to see
• 1:50:47
  something similar within themselves that maybe can awaken
• 1:50:50
  in themselves? Yeah, I really hope so.
• 1:50:53
  I, I have had the great privilege to see some of my
• 1:50:59
  peers that are, they're young, younger than myself and up and
• 1:51:03
  coming in on this path, who are creating and they are telling
• 1:51:10
  the stories their way. And I, I just am thrilled to see
• 1:51:17
  all the different ways that Odin is depicted, all the different
• 1:51:22
  ways that Thor is depicted, all the different ways that the
• 1:51:27
  young people coming up are expressing the devotion, what
• 1:51:33
  they like about particular deities, what they like about
• 1:51:36
  particular practices. And they're illustrating it,
• 1:51:40
  they're writing it, they're acting it out.
• 1:51:44
  And I love to see all of the diverse ways that people are
• 1:51:51
  imagining the gods into being. It's like we create them in our
• 1:51:57
  image. Really kind of a deep dive
• 1:52:00
  there. But it's like this, this
• 1:52:03
  embodiment is how they create in a tactile way through our hands,
• 1:52:10
  through our eyes, through our hearts.
• 1:52:13
  Our writings are divine, our art is divine, our music is divine.
• 1:52:18
  All of this grand storytelling that we humans get up to, this
• 1:52:23
  is the work of gods, and keeping the stories alive is important
• 1:52:30
  to inspire more stories, more lore, today's lore, contemporary
• 1:52:39
  war. Yes, we should be writing sagas,
• 1:52:44
  right We we live in saga times. Saga times, yes.
• 1:52:49
  You know, and Yep, what opportunities are there for
• 1:52:54
  people to gather around a hearth fire or a campfire or a communal
• 1:52:58
  gathering and tell a story? You know, if you don't have a
• 1:53:03
  story to tell, then make a story, create a story, live
• 1:53:06
  something, do something. And then, yeah.
• 1:53:10
  Like, like a lot of the people that I mentor, they they want to
• 1:53:15
  know how Odin and Frigg fell in love.
• 1:53:19
  I said pray about it, tell their story.
• 1:53:22
  Imagine it into being. We are the Lord keepers.
• 1:53:27
  And it's like there's only a small fraction of what was oral
• 1:53:33
  traditions that ever made it into writing.
• 1:53:35
  Let's imagine the rest into being.
• 1:53:39
  Let's fill in the let's fill in the gaps.
• 1:53:41
  We have that power. Yeah.
• 1:53:45
  Yeah, we do. We do.
• 1:53:46
  And there there's like there's another aspect to that that I
• 1:53:50
  feel is, is worth mentioning in that the the stories of our
• 1:53:54
  time, the things that the people we know that are experiencing,
• 1:53:59
  right are are are the people that are experiencing these
• 1:54:02
  profound moments, these these sort of revelatory musings,
• 1:54:09
  right? Their their own UPG.
• 1:54:12
  OK, we'll just say that. Are they are, are they locking
• 1:54:19
  it down and keeping it away from people or are they sharing it
• 1:54:22
  with the right people and turning it into a saga?
• 1:54:26
  And I have an example for like listeners and viewers that I,
• 1:54:29
  you know, I, I can't say that it'll ever be public at this
• 1:54:35
  point. But your situation here saga,
• 1:54:38
  like with with what you've shown us today through your art is it
• 1:54:43
  has inspired me to just say this much, right?
• 1:54:44
  I have a, a, a personal experience that I am, you know,
• 1:54:50
  I am authoring or I am writing a saga myself through, from a
• 1:54:54
  personal experience that I I had.
• 1:54:57
  And I've told it in a very raw, I I've told it in a very raw
• 1:55:00
  form around 1 campfire. And there's been a lot of gaps
• 1:55:03
  that through the story I had to be like, yeah, I need to fill
• 1:55:05
  this thing that or the other. But I have a goal set by a
• 1:55:10
  certain point in time this year that it'll be finished and that
• 1:55:14
  I will be able to tell it around a fire and tell this saga, you
• 1:55:19
  know, And it's a personal experience.
• 1:55:21
  It's nothing that you'll ever hear about in, you know, lore or
• 1:55:24
  anything like that. But that's that's where sagas
• 1:55:28
  come from. They come from and experience a
• 1:55:30
  moment in time that was captured by somebody that had the
• 1:55:37
  ability, the, the, the, the, the cognitive presence and
• 1:55:40
  everything to retell it to, you know, turn the, the average or,
• 1:55:48
  or perhaps the above average thing into some sort of heroic
• 1:55:52
  feat or deify a person or even, you know what I mean?
• 1:55:56
  That's what a saga is. Yeah.
• 1:56:00
  That's what are. Things family saga of the Bull
• 1:56:06
  Suns. That's how it happens.
• 1:56:09
  Yes. Hail Day.
• 1:56:13
  And that's what's happening now. Like there are things that that
• 1:56:16
  happen. You know, people experience
• 1:56:19
  things. I know I'm not the only one.
• 1:56:20
  I know you're not the only one. There are people experiencing
• 1:56:24
  things that they can turn around and share with their respective
• 1:56:27
  communities through the art of storytelling.
• 1:56:31
  Yes. Immortalize the experience,
• 1:56:35
  right? And, and, and turn it into
• 1:56:37
  something that your people now have a story to tell.
• 1:56:41
  I heard the story once around this fire about the blah, blah,
• 1:56:45
  blah, whatever it was, right? And, and next thing you know, it
• 1:56:49
  becomes the story that gets told to the children and the children
• 1:56:52
  they're after and this and that. And then maybe it gets written
• 1:56:54
  down or whatever, but it, you know, it starts with the
• 1:56:57
  experience that that person had and then they immortalize it
• 1:57:02
  through storytelling and whether it's art or whether it's oration
• 1:57:06
  or whether it's music. There's so many ways to to
• 1:57:11
  immortalize our our tales and to really express what it is to be
• 1:57:17
  living in Saga times. You know, it's fun and you're
• 1:57:23
  doing it wonderfully. Saga, thank you so much.
• 1:57:24
  Thank. You, you're very welcome.
• 1:57:27
  This was this was awesome. Yeah, this was awesome.
• 1:57:32
  I mean not being biased or anything, but it really was for
• 1:57:34
  me. I I appreciate it and I hope it
• 1:57:36
  was as enjoyable for you as it was for me and hopefully.
• 1:57:38
  And when I get on kind of A roll, when I start telling the
• 1:57:43
  stories of the pieces, because for me it's still very much
• 1:57:47
  alive. Even the pieces I did 30 years
• 1:57:50
  ago are still as soon as I I live the story again, it's, it's
• 1:57:56
  alive for me. So that's a special gift too.
• 1:58:01
  So thank you. Yeah, no, I and yeah, 100%.
• 1:58:05
  And, and, you know, to, to wrap things up, like when you say
• 1:58:09
  the, the stories are still alive, I mean, when I think of a
• 1:58:14
  belief, you know, when I think of what it means to believe in
• 1:58:18
  something, what comes to mind for me is that to believe means
• 1:58:26
  to be alive. So if I'm gonna believe in
• 1:58:30
  something, I'm going to be alive in it.
• 1:58:33
  It's going to live through me. I'm not gonna just put it on as
• 1:58:37
  a facade or as a hat or as some sort of costume or whatever and
• 1:58:41
  make it this like thing. It, it, it, it's gonna show
• 1:58:43
  through my life. I'm gonna live it.
• 1:58:47
  And this is yet another example of being alive in what you
• 1:58:54
  believe. It's it's showing through your
• 1:58:56
  art. You, you, you, it, it stands up,
• 1:59:00
  right? It, it, it.
• 1:59:02
  The time is immeasurable when it comes to the depiction of these
• 1:59:06
  things because what was relevant and what was alive 30 years ago?
• 1:59:10
  Who cares? That's just time.
• 1:59:12
  What is, whatever that is it, it's still alive today.
• 1:59:15
  Why? Well, because of the life that
• 1:59:17
  it's been given, of the life that it's been carried, you
• 1:59:21
  know, the, the carrying that life through our deeds, you
• 1:59:25
  know. And so that's what I think of
• 1:59:27
  when I think of belief. It is to be alive in it.
• 1:59:31
  I like that a lot. That's really, yeah, that makes
• 1:59:35
  a lot of sense. And thank you so much for being
• 1:59:39
  alive in your art and keeping the lore alive through it.
• 1:59:47
  I think you've done a wonderful job and I hope others can
• 1:59:52
  appreciate that as well. And you know, for those folks
• 1:59:55
  that want to support an artist, that want to support a liver of
• 2:00:02
  the lore, as it were, there'll be links for for you to check
• 2:00:06
  out on ways to do that. You know, Saga has a rich
• 2:00:10
  background and history of of everything she's done over the
• 2:00:14
  last several decades. So be sure to check out those
• 2:00:17
  links and show your support in any way that you can.
• 2:00:23
  Cool beans and the coolest of beans.
• 2:00:26
  I gotta say, you know, like we're halfway through.
• 2:00:28
  We're we're we're halfway through season 5.
• 2:00:32
  So I'll go, you know what I mean?
• 2:00:33
  I'm like, this is, you know, I've had several episodes and
• 2:00:37
  I'm like, this has been great. This is the most fun I've had.
• 2:00:40
  Good, good. It's literally the most fun I've
• 2:00:43
  had on an episode, being able to see what you've shown and
• 2:00:46
  experience it in this way. Thank you so much.
• 2:00:48
  I'm. So glad you're very welcome.
• 2:00:50
  Yeah, this was great. And yeah, I think it's time to
• 2:00:55
  sign off. It is anything else you want to
• 2:00:58
  say before I do so? No, that was I have, I have so
• 2:01:03
  much that I I'd like to share in the future.
• 2:01:06
  So. Well, you are always welcome
• 2:01:08
  back here. Well, thank you so much.
• 2:01:11
  I really appreciate it. And yeah, keep keep making great
• 2:01:15
  shows. Keep making great shows.
• 2:01:19
  Thank you. I'll, I'll, I'll keep that in
• 2:01:21
  mind. And yes, we'll, we'll have you
• 2:01:23
  back on here for sure. Great.
• 2:01:25
  Thank. You.
• 2:01:26
  So stick around just for a second before I we'll, we'll,
• 2:01:30
  we'll, we'll, we'll sign everybody off and then I'll just
• 2:01:32
  touch base for a few seconds thereafter.
• 2:01:35
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• 2:02:03
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• 2:02:08
  the hedge witch, heathen hedge witch of the North up there in
• 2:02:12
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• 2:02:14
  guest again. Looking forward to having you
• 2:02:16
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• 2:02:36
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• 2:02:40
  And we'll see you in the next one.