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  Speaker 3: The Bills they couldn't do anything against Philly. They are
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  Speaker 3: scoreless with under five and a half minutes to play
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  Speaker 3: in the game. They haven't scored a point. They're losing
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  Speaker 3: thirteen to nothing. They score a touchdown, they get a stop,
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  Speaker 3: they get the ball back, they score another touchdown. Now,
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  Speaker 3: the funny thing was they were losing thirteen nothing when
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  Speaker 3: they scored their first touchdown. The Bills had their extra
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  Speaker 3: point blocked. Jalen card blocked the extra point, so instead
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  Speaker 3: of it being thirteen to seven Philly, it's thirteen to
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  Speaker 3: six Philly with the lead at that point. So we
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  Speaker 3: fast forward to the end of the game. Josh Allen
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  Speaker 3: scores a touchdown. It's thirteen to twelve Philly. So you
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  Speaker 3: look at the sideline, Sean McDermott stoic. He's like, let's
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  Speaker 3: go for two. Let's freaking go for two. Freaking in
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  Speaker 3: this guy, I'm pretty sure he's throwing freakings around out there,
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  Speaker 3: and so they line up.
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  Speaker 4: They're going for two.
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  Speaker 3: Josh Allen has a wide open, wide open Khalil Shakir
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  Speaker 3: in the back of the end zone. Pass isn't even
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  Speaker 3: close to the guy, not even close.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what happened. He just short armed it.
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  Speaker 3: It's one of those deals where I don't know, your
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  Speaker 3: guy is just wide open and you want to run
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  Speaker 3: over there and just hand it to him, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, you just short arm it. You just sort
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  Speaker 3: of panic and he just missed a wide open throw.
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  Speaker 3: Now here's the thing. You could look at this and say, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it happens. It's just one throw. This doesn't
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  Speaker 3: mean that dot dot dot fill in the blank.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that they can't win it all. This
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  Speaker 4: doesn't mean they're not gonna reabount ya da baby, Babby.
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  Speaker 3: You could fill it in with a bunch of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: You know what this really means. When you cut to
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  Speaker 3: the chase and you get to the heart of the matter,
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  Speaker 3: the Bills don't have the clutch gene.
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  Speaker 4: They don't have it.
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  Speaker 3: They lack it, and it shows up time and time again.
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  Speaker 3: It just does like you can't explain it any other way.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to say that the Bills are incapable.
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  Speaker 3: That would be that'd be reckless, that'd be a little silly.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you look at the AFC playoffs. What team
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  Speaker 3: do you love? Who's the team that you love? There's
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  Speaker 3: not one. There's not one team I even like, like.
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  Speaker 3: I actually do like the Patriots quite a bit, but
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  Speaker 3: I don't love them. They have their shortcomings, they have
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  Speaker 3: their question marks, They don't have a ton of postseason experience. Right,
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  Speaker 3: there are a lot of reasons to doubt the Patriots.
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  Speaker 3: They've had an incredibly soft schedule, on and on and on.
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  Speaker 3: But I look at their strengths a lot more often
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  Speaker 3: than I hear most people saying, right, Like, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people look at the schedule. It doesn't just begin
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  Speaker 3: and end there. But that's just me. I like the
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  Speaker 3: Patriots quite a bit. But the point is, there isn't
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  Speaker 3: one team in the entire NFL playoffs that I just love.
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  Speaker 3: I really, really like the Rams as well. Don't love them,
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  Speaker 3: don't love their second theory, hate their path now that
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  Speaker 3: they're probably gonna be on the road for three straight games.
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  Speaker 3: But the deal with the Bills, you can't say, no chance,
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  Speaker 3: know how, even though they lack the clutch gene because
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  Speaker 3: of the lack of great teams around them. Hate their
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  Speaker 3: rush defense. It's terrible. It was thirtieth in the NFL
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  Speaker 3: heading into Week seventeen. They did a pretty decent job
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  Speaker 3: on Sakuon Barkley on Sunday. But I don't trust the
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  Speaker 3: Bills rush defense at all. And I don't like their
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  Speaker 3: wide receivers. They got a bunch of number two, number
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  Speaker 3: three wide receivers running around out there. It's when James
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  Speaker 3: cook is held in check and it's all right, Josh Allen,
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  Speaker 3: do your thing. I mean, I like their tight ends.
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  Speaker 3: I like Dalton kin Kid quite a bit. Thouston Knox
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  Speaker 3: is okay, you know, he's fine as a backup tight end.
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  Speaker 3: But they're wide receivers, dude. It's just like who they
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  Speaker 3: just picked up, Brandon Cooks. Brandon Cooks was like their
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  Speaker 3: main guy on Sunday against the Eagles. That's how limited
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  Speaker 3: their wide receiver room is. So it might not come
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  Speaker 3: down to a clutch situation.
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  Speaker 4: It might not. It might not be all right.
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  Speaker 3: There are five seconds left, we're going for two to
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  Speaker 3: win this game, and the he's got a wide open
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  Speaker 3: receiver and he's got to make this throw.
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  Speaker 4: It might not come down to that.
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  Speaker 3: Like the Bills, they're good enough where it might not
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  Speaker 3: be this you know, tight sphincter moment right.
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  Speaker 4: Like we're clutch.
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  Speaker 3: This is a big, huge moment, you know, high leverage.
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  Speaker 3: Might not come down to that. So I'm not going
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  Speaker 3: to count them out. Make no mistake, I'm not counting
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  Speaker 3: them out completely. But the main reason I doubt them
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  Speaker 3: it's their rush defense sucks. Their wide receivers are average
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  Speaker 3: at best, and they do not have the clutch gene.
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  Speaker 3: They as much as highly as I think of Josh Allen,
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't have the clutch gene.
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  Speaker 4: That team does.
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  Speaker 3: Not have the clutch gen. I don't know what it
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  Speaker 3: is about Buffalo. Think about like some of these games
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  Speaker 3: that they've lost. I know it's Mahomes, I know it's
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  Speaker 3: the Chiefs. They had a lead at Arrowhead with thirty
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  Speaker 3: heen seconds to play they lost.
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  Speaker 4: I still can't believe that one there were thirteen seconds left.
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  Speaker 3: Just squib kick that thing, like, run some time off
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  Speaker 3: the clock, you defend one pass and you win.
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  Speaker 4: I still can't believe they lost that game.
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  Speaker 6: You don't think Sean McDermott's the problem.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's part of the problem.
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  Speaker 3: But Sean McDermott wasn't the reason that you know, like
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  Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir didn't get the ball in the back of
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  Speaker 3: the end zone. Josh Allen was the reason. And overtime, well,
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  Speaker 3: I mean you could second guess that, but if you're
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  Speaker 3: watching that play, and first off, I think you gotta
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  Speaker 3: be first guessing in order to be second guessing. I
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  Speaker 3: have a problem at all with them going for two.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, you're being aggressive, that's fine. And
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  Speaker 3: the way the play unfolded, the Bills got exactly what
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  Speaker 3: they wanted.
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  Speaker 7: Like, yeah, it was a terrible pass. It was a
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  Speaker 7: horrible pass, and you know, Josh Allen knows that obviously.
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  Speaker 7: The shots on the sideline.
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  Speaker 4: Sho yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
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  Speaker 6: But I mean, and.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not talking about just this game, but my best
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  Speaker 7: friend is a Bills fan, has has been since since.
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  Speaker 6: He was a child.
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  Speaker 7: Uh huh, and he has been calling for Sean mcdermot's
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  Speaker 7: firing for like a couple of years and a few
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  Speaker 7: years now, right, He's just he's just had.
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  Speaker 6: It with him.
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  Speaker 7: And I mean, I can't you know, you can say, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: the going for Tudo to win is fine.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, you know, I do think that and Ben would
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  Speaker 6: hate this.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, but I do think that the Bills had a
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  Speaker 7: bit of momentum.
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  Speaker 4: Oh oh dude.
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  Speaker 3: You by the way, I want to sidetrack your your
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  Speaker 3: thought here, I'll circle back to it because uh a
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  Speaker 3: big Ben, you know, co host slash, you know, compadre
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  Speaker 3: if you will over the years, don't let me sidetrack.
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  Speaker 3: I'll circle back to it. Go ahead, finish your thought
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  Speaker 3: about momentum and the Bill. They had momentum, That's right,
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  Speaker 3: they did, absolutely.
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  Speaker 7: I just I think that I would have liked their
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  Speaker 7: chances in overtime too. But like you said, you know,
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  Speaker 7: the play worked out exactly how it was supposed to.
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  Speaker 6: They just missed it.
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  Speaker 3: They just they missed a layup. Man, there's no way
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  Speaker 3: if they're going for two, they're being aggressive. If they
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  Speaker 3: could see that play open up the way it did,
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  Speaker 3: and then they could be asked like, okay, you still
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  Speaker 3: want to go for two? Are you banking on Josh
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  Speaker 3: Allen making this throw? Or hey, mulligan time you could
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  Speaker 3: just undo it and magically, through the powers of the
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  Speaker 3: football gods, you could just kick the extra point go
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  Speaker 3: to overtime. Which would you rather do? All day long,
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  Speaker 3: they'd be like, oh, our money's on, Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 4: You kidding me right now?
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  Speaker 7: So as a as a fan, I hate like decisions
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  Speaker 7: like that. Obviously, when it works out, You're like, oh, great,
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  Speaker 7: that was awesome. But when I'm watching my team and they,
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  Speaker 7: you know, come back from behind and they score touchdown
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  Speaker 7: to potentially tie the game and they decided to go
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  Speaker 7: for two, I'm just like a nervous wreck. I would
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  Speaker 7: way rather just breathe and watch some more football.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Hey man, hey listen. You can second guess this stuff
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  Speaker 3: all day. You could sit here and be like, look,
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  Speaker 3: they are legitimate arguments. It's Philly didn't complete one pass
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  Speaker 3: in the second half, right right. Jalen Hurts was oh
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  Speaker 3: for seven, he was oh for the second half. But
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  Speaker 3: I have no problem with him going for two and
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  Speaker 3: it was wide open. That is strictly a Josh Allen
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  Speaker 3: bricked layup, like he didn't even draw iron right, He's
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  Speaker 3: going in for a finger roll and somehow he bricked
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  Speaker 3: it off the backboard and it didn't touch net, it
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  Speaker 3: didn't touch rim, it didn't touch anything. He just bricked
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  Speaker 3: That's how bad it was. That was a Josh Allen
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  Speaker 3: miss And listen, and I get it, and Coop going
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  Speaker 3: back to your diehard you know your friend who's a
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  Speaker 3: diehard Bills fan. I get how you're not in love
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  Speaker 3: with Sean McDermott. But the truth is he's the easy
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  Speaker 3: fall guy.
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  Speaker 4: He really like.
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  Speaker 3: Sean McDermott is not the reason that the rush defense sucks.
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  Speaker 3: Sean McDermott is not the reason that their wide receivers
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  Speaker 3: are just a bunch of guys. That's a Brandon Bean issue.
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  Speaker 3: That's the GM. He's the guy responsible for the roster.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a Sean McDermott issue. That Josh Allen, the
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  Speaker 3: reigning MVP, missed an absolute layup wide open receiver. The
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  Speaker 3: ball's not even close to him. None of those things
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  Speaker 3: are Sean McDermott's fault. Yet there are a lot of
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  Speaker 3: fans that want to act like it is. And listen,
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  Speaker 3: I get if you want to sit here and say, hey,
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  Speaker 3: look man, we've tried it for a number of years,
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  Speaker 3: just hasn't worked. It's time to try something new. That's fine,
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  Speaker 3: that's fine, but aim Sean McDermott for that loss. That's
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  Speaker 3: that's ridiculous. If anybody's doing that, it's just silly. That's
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  Speaker 3: Josh Allen just blowing it and I hey, raining MVP
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  Speaker 3: to the side.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's even worse. Like the fan mentality. I
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  Speaker 4: know a lot of Bills fans will think like this.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, well, it's Josh Allen, man, Like, we can't
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  Speaker 3: really crack on Josh Allen too hard. He's the reason
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  Speaker 3: why we're good, Like yeah, and he's also the reason
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  Speaker 3: you lost that game. Okay, that's the reality. It's not
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  Speaker 3: a Sean McDermott thing. It was a Josh Allen thing
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  Speaker 3: against the Bills in Week seventeen specifically, that's what it is.
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  Speaker 3: And it makes it even worse because he's so talented,
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  Speaker 3: because he's a raigning MVP, because he's arguably the best
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  Speaker 3: quarterback in the game right now. It makes it even
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  Speaker 3: worse than he missed a wide open layup like that.
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  Speaker 3: You should have high standards and high expectations that should
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  Speaker 3: be like, just that's not anything that's permissible. That is
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  Speaker 3: an impermissible situation from Josh Allen, impermissible performance from him
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  Speaker 3: against the Eagles, specially late. Listen, Coop, I gotta say
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  Speaker 3: one thing because my guy Tom Looney, who I love
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  Speaker 3: like a brother. We have traded multiple texts, multiple voice notes.
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  Speaker 3: He somehow he got on this thing and he's like
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  Speaker 3: he talked about momentum and he was like, yeah, this
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  Speaker 3: is a big Ben Mallard take, and he's like, I
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  Speaker 3: actually subscribe to it as well. It's like, momentum is
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  Speaker 3: not a thing. I'm like, that's the worst take of
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  Speaker 3: all time? Are you kidding me? That's what you think? Listen, man,
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  Speaker 3: And I won't bore you with the whole argument, like
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  Speaker 3: this is what I think about momentum. Just watch the
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  Speaker 3: game between the Rams and the Seahawks last week and
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  Speaker 3: you tell me that momentum is not a thing, right, Like,
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  Speaker 3: the Seahawks are down thirty to fourteen, they're not even
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  Speaker 3: sniffing the lead, they're not even sniffing a win. At
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  Speaker 3: the time, Sam Darnold has just thrown two hideous interceptions
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  Speaker 3: and what happens they get a punt return for a touchdown,
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  Speaker 3: They get the two, They get another touchdown, They get
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  Speaker 3: a ridiculous two point conversion that was a complete you know,
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  Speaker 3: just fluke. It hits a rams helmet, bounces into the
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  Speaker 3: end zone. They pick it up, they get the two
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  Speaker 3: point conversion, goes to overtime, They give them a touchdown,
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  Speaker 3: they score a touchdown, they go for two and win it.
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  Speaker 3: You tell me momentum is not a thing. The way
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  Speaker 3: I look at momentum is the way I look at
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  Speaker 3: a run or a lead. Okay, you typically talk about
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  Speaker 3: runs in basketball. It can still happen in football. You
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  Speaker 3: go on a you know, a twenty one nothing run.
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  Speaker 3: Alabama against Oklahoma. They're down seventeen to nothing, and whatever
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  Speaker 3: the run was. They went on a twenty four nothing
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  Speaker 3: run or something like that. You know in basketball, Oh,
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  Speaker 3: they're on a seventeen to one run or whatever it
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  Speaker 3: happens to be. That's what momentum is. But these these
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  Speaker 3: jokers Looney and Big Ben, who I love, but it's
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  Speaker 3: a terrible take. They act like, once you lose momentum,
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  Speaker 3: it means that momentum never existed in the first place.
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  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: That's like saying a run never existed, because Okay, we're
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  Speaker 3: watching a basketball game. My team goes on a fourteen
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  Speaker 3: nothing run. Your team goes on a thirteen to one run.
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  Speaker 3: Does that mean that my original run never happened?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Like a lead?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, today, the Eagles had the lead, they had the momentum.
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  Speaker 3: They're up thirteen to nothing, and what happened. The Bills
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  Speaker 3: stole the momentum. They had a chance to take the
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  Speaker 3: lead and win the game. That doesn't mean if they
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  Speaker 3: were able to do that, the Eagles never had a
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  Speaker 3: lead to begin with. Right, It's just so bad. It's
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  Speaker 3: just such bad logic. Momentum absolutely exists. And this is
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  Speaker 3: on the heels of me doing a list the last
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  Speaker 3: time I filled in for Big Ben. Right, so I'm
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  Speaker 3: doing list radio at least one segment that I thought
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  Speaker 3: was good at least a good idea, and it was
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  Speaker 3: the biggest surprise NFL teams this season, good or bad?
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  Speaker 3: You know what did the top five look like? I
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  Speaker 3: was entertained. Maybe I was only one, but yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: was doing a list segment. I know Ben hates list radio,
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  Speaker 3: and then I'm doing Yes, Momentum is absolutely, without a doubt,
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  Speaker 3: unequivocally a real thing in sports.
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  Speaker 3: We're all about the ball over here, and I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to get to the militia. The militias.
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  Speaker 4: Hey man.
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  Speaker 3: The militia is lined up and so we are going
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  Speaker 3: to power through some entertaining callers here momentarily. But let
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  Speaker 3: me start it off by just saying a couple of things.
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  Speaker 3: I want to pay this off where there is a
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  Speaker 3: team that I am happy, happy to bet against in
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  Speaker 3: Week eighteen, and that would be the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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  Speaker 3: Now here's the thing. They are facing the Carolina Panther
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  Speaker 3: with the division on the line. Right winner is in.
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  Speaker 3: As bad as Tampa has been, they've lost seven of
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  Speaker 3: the last eight games, as bad as they've been, if
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  Speaker 3: they win one game against Carolina, they are in. Tampa
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  Speaker 3: Bay is hosting this game against Carolina. If Tampa wins,
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  Speaker 3: they win the NFC South, they win their horrible division,
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  Speaker 3: they get into the playoffs. They host a playoff game,
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  Speaker 3: which I will rant about later on today, but keep
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  Speaker 3: it simple. As bad as Tampa has been, they still
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  Speaker 3: have a shot. They control their playoff path. Have to
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  Speaker 3: win one home game against Carolina.
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  Speaker 4: They're in.
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  Speaker 3: Now here's why I am so happy to bet against them.
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  Speaker 3: I've already bet Carolina plus three. I've bet Carolina money line.
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  Speaker 3: And the reasons are this. Tampa Bay. They are a
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  Speaker 3: team that is just dead inside. Might go a little
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  Speaker 3: bit too far. You know what the Tampa Bay really is.
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  Speaker 3: Tampa Bay is a team with the weight of the
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  Speaker 3: world on its shoulders. That's what's happening with Tampa Bay.
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  Speaker 3: You could see it with Baker Mayfield on Sunday against
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  Speaker 3: the Dolphins. They lost to the Dolphins. I love my Dolphins.
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  Speaker 3: My Dolphins are a wreck this season. Okay, I said
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  Speaker 3: this the other night. As bad as the Dolphins have been,
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  Speaker 3: think about their season. Right, they get off to a
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: hideous start. They were what one in Let me get
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: the record for you real fast. They'll only take a second.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: They were one and six.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: The Dolphins were one and six to start the season.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Awful stinkage. Defined. They go on, they beat a couple
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: of bad teams. You know, they beat the the Commanders,
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: they beat the Saints, they beat the Jets. You know,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: they won a couple of games and their records a
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: little bit more respectable. Then they benched Tua, right, Tua's yeah,
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: as this guy, he doesn't give us the best chance
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: to win. That's what Mike McDaniel said. They go with
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: the rookie Quinnyewers. They get rolled up on by the
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Bengals by twenty four points last week.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: Just a disastrous season.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Dolphins have the same record as Tampa Bay
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: after Week seventeen, after Sunday, after the Dolphins beat Tampa Bay,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: same record. As much of a greasefire of a season
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: the Dolphins have had Benching their starting quarterback, same record
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: as Tampa Bay. And I'm just watching Tampa Bay and
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: their season just absolutely crater. And I'm watching Baker Mayfield
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: and listen, it's not just the physical toll. He took
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: a couple of big hits toward the end of that
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: game on Sunday, the loss to the Dolphins, but he's
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: on the sideline and you can just you can feel
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: it's not just the physical pain of getting knocked around.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: It's the emotional pain of losing and losing and losing.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: There's a great clip of Kevin Garnett when he was
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: still playing in the NBA. I love kg intensity to
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: find love the guy. But he was doing this interview
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: and he's almost in tears and he's like, I'm losing.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: I'm losing.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Like you can just feel how this is tearing him up.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: And that's the deal.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: If you look at these NFL games, think about a
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: team like Tampa So they've been banged up quite a bit,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: suffered a lot of injuries. They started off great, they
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: had a great start to the season at the best stage.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Let's see, they were.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Five and one.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: They started off They're like the anti Dolphins. Dolphins started
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: off one and six, Tampa started off five and one,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: and then the season took a turn man after the
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: bye week. Week ten, they lose at home to the Patriots.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: They lose on the road to the Bills. They get
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: smacked around by the Rams. That was ugly, and then
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: it was just losing, losing, losing, losing. They've lost seven
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: of eight. And here's the deal. It's like, you put
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: so much into trying to win a game. You prepare
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: all week, you get your body right, you get your
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: mind right, it's all right, let's let's go, let's get
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: on the winning track.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Loss.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: You do the same thing in the next week. Loss,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: the same thing the next week.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Loss. It's just mounting and that.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: That emotional stress, that weight is just weighing on them.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: You can feel it, right. It'd be like, you know
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: how you hit like the squat rack.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not a big squat rack guy, you know, but
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: you know what it feels like. You put the you know,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: the bar behind you, you put the weights on the side,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: you go down, you do your squats right. It's as
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: if Tampa Bay is walking around with the squat bar
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: like the back of their shoulders, back of their neck.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: And it's never leaving restep they take. They're just walking
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: with the squat bar behind. They're walking with all the
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: squat weight on the squat bar, right, That's how they feel.
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: It's like their legs are buckling.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: They can't take this physical emotional burden.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: Of losing and losing and losing.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: And you know who hasn't had that? Carolina. Carolina has
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: not had that. Carolina is a weird team. They're psychotic,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: but they're like win loss. So that's what they've done.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Let's see since week seven, this is their schedule win loss,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: win loss, win loss, win by loss. They had a
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: bye week in between win loss. Looks like they're scheduled
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: for a win. If this is like, if this arithmetic
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: plays itself out, they're due for a win. But they
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: have not had this seven out of eight losing streak.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: This stress, yes, that is just collecting and oh man,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: I just I am happy to fade Tampa Bay. This
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: is one of these deals where you can get you
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: can get football deep, and you could be like, well,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: you know, like Tampa Bay has this matchup and well,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: these receivers against these Carolina quarterbacks and all this stuff.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: All this I love football. You can break it down
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: football wise. I would not break it down football wise.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: This to me is Tampa Bay has just reached a
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: breaking point and they have been weighed down for so
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: long by so much losing. I don't think they can
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: get out from under it, even though they're at home,
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: even though they're facing Carolina, who's far from a juggernaut.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Even though Carolina could be like, yeah, we're sucky Carolina today,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's either good Carolina, great Carolina, or
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: SUCKI Carolina. We don't know which team's gonna show up.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: You could lay, wait, what if SUCKI Carolina shows up?
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I don't care. I think Tampa's gonna suck worse. That's
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: what I think. I'm happy to fade Tampa I already have.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: We'll see if that's the winning side. But Coop, I
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: might put sixteen fan confidence points on Carolina this week,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: just as a straight Tampa fade man. They are a broken,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: cratering team that I'll tell you. I'll get a little
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: personal for a second. Okay, we'll get to the calls.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: When I was married, it was it was very stressful,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: like we got divorced for a reason, and like listen,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: I'm not putting all this on my ex. I certainly
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: had fall. I made a ton of mistakes myself. But
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: when we split up and we went our separate ways,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I didn't realize like I felt this like stress all
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: throughout my body. I felt this stress in my chest,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: you know. And then we went our separate ways, and
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: it slowly, like a couple of days go by, a
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: couple more days, a couple more days, a couple of.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Weeks, and it's like it felt like so someone that was.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Standing on me was no longer standing on me, you
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. It was just kind of like,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: oh my gosh, it was it was like the Gregorian
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: chant or the Hallelujah. It was that Oh it was beauty.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh wow, I can breathe. It's like
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Tampa feels how I felt before the split, right, like
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: they feel like the emotional toll of the cagey I'm losing.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: It's killing them.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: They are near their their sports deathbed. They're near their
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five NFL season deathbed, and it's not gonna
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: take much to just kick them off the edge. I
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: think Carolina is gonna do it, man, I do I
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: think Carolina is gonna win the division. I just think
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Tampa they're just a dead team walking now. Watch them
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: win by seventeen or couldn't put everything together and go ballistic.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: But I don't think. I don't see it.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: I'm betting against them, firmly betting against them.
• 26:03
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• 26:05
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• 26:09
  Speaker 3: You know what, I can already see that this segment
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: is probably going to result in verbal fisticuffs. I can see.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: I can see it clear as day. It's just right
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: over right over the horizon, right there, right over you know,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: like you get up, you know, right around right around
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: the tree, in between the shrubs. Verbal fisticuffs right around
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: the corner here between myself and Loraina the tech Queen. No,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: I'm kidding it, me and Justin Cooper. That's right, we
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: can we get shadow box. I don't care. I'm not scared.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: What do you got? No, I'm just kidding. It's going
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: to be me and Coop here, because Coop he is
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: going to come after the New England Patriots. And I
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: just want to tell you, I want to warn you,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: militia it's going to be a bad take, a bad take,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: and I'm gonna pull some sports radio jiu jitsu.
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: Don't really a take. It's a fact.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: It is a fact. But you know what it is.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: It is a completely and utterly misleading fact. You're right, Coop,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: it's not it is a fact. I saw this tweet.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: One of my buddies sent it to me, and it's
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: exactly what Coop is talking about. So, as of today,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: after week seventeen, the Patriots have one win against the
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: team with the winning record. The New York Giants have
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: two wins against teams with winning records. So it's like,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: oh wow, look at the Patriots. They're just beaten up
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: on the sad pathetic it is. It's one of the
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: it's like the easiest schedule in the last twenty five years.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: They've beaten up on a bunch of bad teams.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: But but but that doesn't mean they're incapable of doing anything.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Like listen, there are so many things to look at here.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Don't just look at man, they've only beaten one team
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: with the winning record while they're fools gold. I think
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: that's a bad take because look at what they have.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: They've got a pretty good defense, They've got a pretty
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: good head coach and Mike Rable. They've got a really
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: good quarterback in Drake May. And this is where that
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: stat is totally misleading. If you look at what last
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: week at the Ravens, they're losing by eleven points in
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. If they lose this game, the division
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: is is up for grabs. The division is in peril
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: with the Buffalo Bills right on their heels and they
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: on the road at Baltimore in primetime. Have the Giants
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: played primetime games this season like they I think they
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: played the Chiefs earlier in They're not playing primetime games.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: They're like a one pm, you know dream, They're playing
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: at one day.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, they broke out and played at four to twenty
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: five Eastern time this past Sunday. Whoa man, that was
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: about as primetime as it gets. For the Giants going
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: to Baltimore in primetime, eleven point deficit have to execute
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: with great precision, and they did. And now that's just
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: chalked up to well, Baltimore doesn't have a winning record
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: right now, that doesn't even really count.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: It doesn't count. Are you kidding me?
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: That's ridiculous? That's why you got to read between the
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: lines sometimes dig deeper than just the quote unquote facts,
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Like that's a fact for you. They beat a Ravens
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: them in primetime on the road, when dude, that crowd
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: is into it. You know, the momentum is clearly on
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Baltimore's side. And guess what they did. They seized it
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: right back and they took that game.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: That matters.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: They beat the Bills on the road, that doesn't matter.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: That's not a good win earlier on the that's their
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: there's their one win.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: That's just crazy to me. So to just overlook the
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: strengths that they have.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: They've got a legitimate MVP at quarterback, good head coach,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: good defense, they got a lot to work with.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: I like the Patriots.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of value as far as
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: betting on the Patriots come playoff time, because there are
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: some people that will just see a tweet and be like.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: Got one team.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: We got one win against the one team with a
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: winning record. I mean, I can't wait to fade this team. Yeah,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: go ahead, knock yourself out. I think they're live. I
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: think they're absolutely live in the playoffs. I would be
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: surprised if they're in the Super Bowl. I said it,
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: look at the rest of the AFC. Who do you love?
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Who do you love in the AFC? I don't love anybody.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: So to like act like the Patriots have what no
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: shot to do anything, that's crazy. Odds are they're not
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: going to make the Super Bowl.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: I know that.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: But to talk about them as if they have no
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: chains just because they've had an incredibly favorable schedule, that's
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: crazy talk. That's insanity right there. So now I don't
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: buy any of that stuff. They beat a couple of
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: teams that are five hundred, you know, that's not beating
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: up on all. These teams are just you know, picking
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: in the top five, top ten of the NFL draft,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: and that's it.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: That's not it.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Like the Ravens are a five hundred team. The Panthers
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: are a five hundred team. To look at the Panthers,
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: the Panthers are psychotic. By the way, the Panthers beat
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: the Rams. The Panthers beat.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: The Packers like those are they beat. The Rams were.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: At the time the consensus best team in the NFL.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: The Rams went into Carolina and lost, and then Carolina
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: got swept by the Saints. They got crushed by the Bills.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: They got crushed by the Patriots. The Patriots beat them
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: forty two to thirteen, and we're just gonna act like
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter because they're not. They don't have a
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: winning record, Like that's a manufactured ooh oh, this is
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: gonna get some clicks type stat.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: That's what it is. There's way more to that stat
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: than meets the eye.
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: But would you be surprised if any one of the
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: playoff teams, potential AFC playoff teams beat them in the
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: first round.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, no, the Texans have a real defense. I
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: don't like the Texans offensive line. But if that's the matchup,
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: if that's let's say it's the two to seven matchup,
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: and Houston goes into fox Borough and wins, I would
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: be surprised at all, not at all. They've got a
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: nasty defense, and I don't love the Patriots tackles. Listen,
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: styles make fights, and look, they don't have the same
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: playoff experience, even the Texans. They were in the playoffs
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: last season, right, they beat the Chargers, they picked off
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Herbert four times, they went into Arrowhead, they laid a
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: close game against the Chiefs, like that's real playoff experience
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: that matters. I would be surprised at all if the
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Texans went in there and beat them and the Patriots
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: are won and done.
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: I think we're probably looking at Chargers Patriots, right if
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: I mean assuming the right right, the Broncos could.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Be I mean, listen, it could be Bills Patriots. That's
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: what it is right now, right speak. I mean, can
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: you see the Bills going in there again and you know,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: taking down the Patriots. Of course, of course you could
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: see that happening. Could I see the opposite happening?
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: I could see that too.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: The Patriots got a little uh, you know, less aggressive.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: They got up twenty one to nothing, they were still up.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: I was at twenty four to seven, I think at halftime,
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: and man, the Bills came out and they smacked them around.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: The Patriots just didn't have that same edge in the
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: second half, and they're trying to not the clock instead
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: of like playing the game. So hey, maybe they learned
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: some lessons from that loss. But neither would surprise me.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: Coop.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: If that's the matchup Patriots Bills the Patriots are hosting
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: in Foxborough, I wouldn't be a surprised.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: If either team won. I really wouldn't you.
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: No, I mean definitely not.
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: I I don't know if I was betting that game.
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: I don't know if I if.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: I take, probably take the Bills. Well, that's the thing.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: The Bills would be a slight favorite. I think I
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: think the Bills would have enough so I do. I
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: think the Bills would have enough backing from the betting
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: community where yeah, I think they would be small favorites.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: I think it'd be close to a pick them. But
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: I bet the Bills would probably be like a one
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: point favorite on the road something like that.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: I think they would.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: I mean, you might be right.
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: I just it's it's wild to me because you you
• 34:56
  Speaker 7: got to imagine that. I mean, Drake May is probably
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: winning MVP, right, I.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Mean I think it's Stafford. I think Stafford gets it
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: this season.
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: Even after that that loss.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: But hey, listen, Drake May's live. You know, they're they're
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: pretty close. So it's yeah, it could be a good
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: little battle who gets it. I like Drake May a lot.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Drake May's got the goods. He's a very good quarterback.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: So like, look, man, I wouldn't just look at the schedule,
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: and that's like, I don't want to change the subject completely,
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: but I'm hearing a lot of that. With college football.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: We've got the College Football Playoff right around the corner.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: The best matchup of the quarterfinals. I think it's the
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: shortest point spread. It's Oregon against Texas Tech. And there
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: are a lot of people that are like, Oregon played
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: a much tougher schedule, Like Oregon's going to be the
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: best team that Texas Tech faces easily, and it's like, look,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: that's true, but that doesn't mean Texas Tech can't win
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: that game. You know, like they got a really good
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: defensive line, really good front seven offense. When firing in
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: all cylinders is nasty, they're a wagon. Texas Tech is tough.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: So I think we're doing that with the Patriots, Like,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: oh man, look at their easy schedule. It's okay, all right,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: So they're incapable. They can't beat the Bills at home.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: They can't beat the Chargers.
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: Just can't.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: Can't do it.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Come on like that. It goes beyond the schedule, man,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: it just does. You can't have an MVP caliber quarterback,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: a good head coach, a good defense and just be
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: incapable of doing anything come playoff time because they've had
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: a cake schedule, and it's a bad logic, it's a
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: bad take. So I like the Patriots, man. I think
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: that a lot of people are selling the Patriots short.
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  Speaker 4: That is what I think