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Wayne Steiger | The Medium Cult Like Narrative · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 1: Buildings behind me were the headquarters for the World War
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  Speaker 1: Two Office of Strategic Service. It was here that the
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  Speaker 1: first halting steps toward mind control began.
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  Speaker 2: The ten years before Stanley Kubrick made The Shining, he
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  Speaker 2: made another film. There's a film about microcode called The
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  Speaker 2: Clockwork Orn.
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  Speaker 3: The Shining is one movie that has really been put
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  Speaker 3: through the ringer and one thing that people really don't notice,
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  Speaker 3: that doesn't really make a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 2: All during the shoot, Kubrick is rewriting the movie.
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  Speaker 3: What we see here is Stanley Kubrick trying to encode
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  Speaker 3: a secret meaning into The Shining that he doesn't want
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  Speaker 3: anyone to know about her.
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  Speaker 2: Kubrick has several references to Freemasonry in his films.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lady that walks past that has a bloody
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  Speaker 3: handprint on her ass.
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  Speaker 2: The Shining is Kubrick's eleventh film, and there's elevens all
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  Speaker 2: through the film. Eleven is a special number in occult theology.
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  Speaker 3: The Shining has been regarded as one of the greatest
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  Speaker 3: horror films ever made, but is it really a horror film?
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  Speaker 2: The Shining also is low to a sexual innuendo.
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  Speaker 3: The family is isolated up at the overlook, which is
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  Speaker 3: a perfect opportunity for some sort of CIA experimentation to
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  Speaker 3: go down up.
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  Speaker 4: There, using mk ultra methods psycheatrically control assassins, literally assassins.
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  Speaker 4: Experimental drugs, including LSD were administered to human guinea pigs.
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  Speaker 1: The patients were never told that their treatment was part
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  Speaker 1: of a CIA experiment.
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  Speaker 5: And there was this story which involves him spiking the
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  Speaker 5: drinks of one of his deputies, this guy Frank Olsen,
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  Speaker 5: and he jumped out of a window to his death.
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  Speaker 6: It's a demonic possession, you know. So it makes someone
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  Speaker 6: feel like they don't have any control over this etherical
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  Speaker 6: entity outside themselves, when really it's the people who are
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  Speaker 6: imposing the trauma that need to be held accountable for
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  Speaker 6: the actions.
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  Speaker 3: The stuts.
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  Speaker 4: We know what happened in the apartment that they had.
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  Speaker 3: There are many clues that point to the fact that
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  Speaker 3: this theory of what the Shining is really about is
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  Speaker 3: the correct theory.
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  Speaker 2: We think that we're watching a horror movie where ghosts
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  Speaker 2: are kind of forcing a man to go off and
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  Speaker 2: kill his family. But what are we really watching here, Wendy.
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  Speaker 3: I'm home. Welcome back, guys. It's lovely to be here
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  Speaker 3: appreciate you guys sticking with me through the break, but
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't a break for me. Let me tell you.
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  Speaker 3: It was a nightmare in some cases, but a very
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  Speaker 3: enjoyable nightmare, you know. Having creating the Clockwork Shining, which
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  Speaker 3: I just showed you the trailer for there the documentary
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  Speaker 3: that's something that is this expansive, the juggles as many
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  Speaker 3: topics as it does and has six people in it.
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  Speaker 3: Any editor or a filmmaker will tell you how big
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  Speaker 3: of a task that is. But it is finished, and
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  Speaker 3: it is complete, and I'm super proud of it. It's
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  Speaker 3: the greatest thing that I've ever had the honor and
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  Speaker 3: your guys of socks off when you watch it as well.
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  Speaker 3: And it will be released at the end of the month,
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  Speaker 3: members episodes. So with that down, we have with us
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  Speaker 3: today returning guests philosopher, researcher, educator, spiritual teacher and visionary
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  Speaker 3: on Occult in Esoteric Studies. Wayne Steger, It's good to
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  Speaker 3: see you, my friend. How's a hand wrider?
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  Speaker 1: Good to see you, buddy, Get back in the saddle.
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  Speaker 1: Exciting and by the way, congratulations on the new documentary.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Wayne, thank you. I think you're really going
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  Speaker 3: to enjoy it. It's uh, I think it's right up.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of people's allays actually.
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  Speaker 1: Deals with prime right, Yes, yeah, so I usually reserve
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  Speaker 1: Saturday mornings for watching such films as uh in the
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  Speaker 1: same genre, so I'll have the wife right there as well.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're gonna lie. It's got all the sixties
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  Speaker 3: bands in it and uh, you know, good old Cia
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  Speaker 3: stuff in it, So I think you're really going to
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  Speaker 3: enjoy it. But hey, I started drinking tea now I'm
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  Speaker 3: a I'm a tea man. Quit drinking coffee and energy
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  Speaker 3: drinks during the break during the making of this documentary,
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  Speaker 3: which was super rough, So I'm right there with the
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  Speaker 3: tea again. I don't know why I stopped drinking tea,
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  Speaker 3: Wayne Link. I drink tea since I was very young.
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  Speaker 3: I've always looked for you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it really is.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's like the call conditioning of
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  Speaker 3: like coffee and all that that you got to have
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  Speaker 3: constantly have coffee, but I've always enjoyed tea more. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know why I stopped drinking. It was really weird.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's a sophisticated taste acquired case coffee. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't drink caffeinated tea, but I eat a lot, drink
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  Speaker 1: a lot of spice tea of such.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So we have a lot going on right now,
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  Speaker 3: especially on the world stage. We got the first debat
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  Speaker 3: tonight between the trump Master and Kamala, which I'm definitely
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  Speaker 3: going to be watching. But before we get into like
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  Speaker 3: some worldly things, I kind of wanted to get your
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  Speaker 3: take on because you just had a you also have
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  Speaker 3: a little break in there, but it was kind of
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  Speaker 3: for different reasons, and you had some experiences that I
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  Speaker 3: thought would possibly well, it's definitely good to share about
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  Speaker 3: for mind listeners and my viewers about what you experienced
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  Speaker 3: during that How long were like three weeks? Three weeks?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was sucked, That's all I got to say.
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  Speaker 1: And I had meningitis with lyme disease at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: So this one, yeah, took me out of the body.
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  Speaker 3: As you would say, Oh, you had an out of
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  Speaker 3: body experience along with it.
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  Speaker 1: I think it, you know, different ways of looking at it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, when the body starts hitting an internal temperature,
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  Speaker 1: you know one hundred and five, you know it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of you can experience houselinations, you can experience
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  Speaker 1: things that your body is it's so weak that the
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  Speaker 1: spirit has the ability to many times overcome the hindrances
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  Speaker 1: of spirits outside the body. And I was really sick.
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  Speaker 1: I was dying, and my wife as a nurse, and
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  Speaker 1: she was very much aware of it. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I went to a place that for me, and of
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  Speaker 1: course it's you know, when you have these experiences, they're
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  Speaker 1: very personal, very personalized, is what I called the bridge.
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  Speaker 1: I've later since read because it was quite remarkable that
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  Speaker 1: this bridge was of such a multifacet color colors that
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  Speaker 1: I can't even describe, and come to find out, there's
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  Speaker 1: been others who have experienced similar type of experiences and
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  Speaker 1: it's known as the Rainbow Bridge.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah, did you experience like peas there? Like peas
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  Speaker 3: and hope?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's very interesting writer. Yeah, the show I on
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  Speaker 1: that it was meeting the specter of death. It was death,
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  Speaker 1: it was the spirit of death. But I wasn't afraid,
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  Speaker 1: and I remember it distinctly talking to me. Tall spirit
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  Speaker 1: really was and put its hand on my shoulder, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there was a piece I wasn't afraid. It was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: very compelling because I've been at that place before when
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  Speaker 1: I almost died and I couldn't see past the middle
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  Speaker 1: or the bridge. This time, the mist whatever you want
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  Speaker 1: to call it, had lifted, and I saw a number
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  Speaker 1: of people that hey, I hadn't expected to see, and uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was very personal and very you know, lasting in
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  Speaker 1: the consciousness.
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  Speaker 3: Did you see people that were currently passed on or
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  Speaker 3: people that are living.
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  Speaker 1: No, everyone that I saw, it was only a handful
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  Speaker 1: of people. A couple were real surprise, were have already
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  Speaker 1: passed over. The person who I first noticed was my mother,
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  Speaker 1: and I was never close with my mother, but that
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  Speaker 1: way and the one that shocked me the most as
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  Speaker 1: I told my audience that she lived over in Norway.
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  Speaker 1: Her name was Carla, and Carla made the decision to
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  Speaker 1: leave on her terms, and she was a young woman
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  Speaker 1: and I was surprised to see her over there. And
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  Speaker 1: it really touches me emotionally because that I she said,
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  Speaker 1: the last picture of her moments here before she went
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  Speaker 1: into the facility, and there she was. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was like I did not expect that. And they
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  Speaker 1: didn't talk, they couldn't talk to me. But it was
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  Speaker 1: very obvious that they could see me because I could.
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  Speaker 1: I saw them, and she had the most beautiful smile.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there was the way that I described it
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  Speaker 1: as I relived the moment. It was exquisite joy, so
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  Speaker 1: very it was I had not expected that at all.
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  Speaker 1: That that really that shocked me more than anything else.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would imagine, and I think it would be
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  Speaker 3: super wet if you got over there and then like
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  Speaker 3: everybody that was there was all like living. They weren't
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  Speaker 3: people that you knew that was already dead.
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  Speaker 1: The death realm anyway. So we're the dead, they're they're
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  Speaker 1: actually the living.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, I think it's uh, that's super interesting.
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  Speaker 3: So you weren't able to communicate within you these pasted
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  Speaker 3: over love, but you were able to get like an impression.
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  Speaker 1: No, yeah, yeah, they saw me and I saw them,
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  Speaker 1: and the thing that was very interesting was they weren't concerned.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there was almost like high you know, death,
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  Speaker 1: the spirit of that, the specter of death. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if it's very interesting because you don't speak words, you
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  Speaker 1: you you hear thoughts, and it it's I can still
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  Speaker 1: quote it right now. I said that you know, there
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  Speaker 1: isn't a pointed time in which the crossing will happen,
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  Speaker 1: but this is not it. And you know, I came
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  Speaker 1: back into consciousness with my wife, you know, medically checking
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  Speaker 1: me out. So yeah, so did it hurt?
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  Speaker 3: Did it hurt coming back into your body? Because I've
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  Speaker 3: had where it was rough.
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  Speaker 1: Crushing pain is the way I would describe it in
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  Speaker 1: every freaking joint. Yeah, and yeah, that that just sucked.
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  Speaker 1: The fever was you know, the other thing, and it
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  Speaker 1: took me, you know, like eight nine days to finally
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  Speaker 1: get that where the fear was broke.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, well I was talking to Trina because you know,
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  Speaker 3: when I was making this documentary, I couldn't pay attention
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  Speaker 3: to anything about what was going on, Like I was
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  Speaker 3: just shut off from everything. I didn't watch anything, I
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  Speaker 3: didn't look at anything. I hardly even scrolled through any
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  Speaker 3: social media or whatever. I was literally just working on
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  Speaker 3: it every single day all day, like hours and hours
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  Speaker 3: and hours at a time. And near the end of it,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when I'm getting close to wrapping it up,
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  Speaker 3: I decided to check on your channel and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: what's Wayne, What's Wayne been up to these days? And
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  Speaker 3: then I get over there, and I've seen that you
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  Speaker 3: hadn't posted anything in a while. And then I was
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  Speaker 3: when I tried to call you a couple of times
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  Speaker 3: and you didn't pick up. And then I texted Trina
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  Speaker 3: and she told me that you were, you know, healing.
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  Speaker 3: I tried to trying to say healing as much as possible,
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  Speaker 3: because sickness just keeps that revolving door of you know, sickness.
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  Speaker 3: So she told me what was going on, and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, Wayne's going to pull through. For sure. There
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  Speaker 3: ain't no way, No freaking virus is going to take
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  Speaker 3: down Wayne. Not possible.
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  Speaker 1: So it's very kind of you. You know, you've experienced
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  Speaker 1: some some you know, divided piece is what I call it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because it sure ain't fun. Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 1: so intense and to have a moment like listen, it
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  Speaker 1: was real to me, as I told my audience, And
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  Speaker 1: when there were some things like our reality is really
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  Speaker 1: this cube, one of the things I remembered distinctly was
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  Speaker 1: we are inside this reality and this and there is
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  Speaker 1: a bridge is a bridge for all of us. Now,
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  Speaker 1: maybe it may not be a physical bridge like it
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  Speaker 1: was it is for me, and I have no doubt
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  Speaker 1: that when my time is ready, you know, because writer,
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  Speaker 1: we're all born and we're all waiting to die. Now,
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  Speaker 1: what you do in between is where the game really
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  Speaker 1: becomes real. But in essence, when the day first day
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  Speaker 1: we're born, we know that we're one step closer to
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  Speaker 1: the day that we will die. And I'm one who
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  Speaker 1: believes that consciousness survives what we call the physical death,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a transcendence that takes place in there. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think we ever physically die. My philosophy is that
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  Speaker 1: this is the death realm. You know, we are born
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  Speaker 1: into death. We experience death. Everything here dies. You have
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  Speaker 1: to eat something that was alive in one form or
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  Speaker 1: fashion in order to live in here. And each day
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  Speaker 1: our bodies die and our consciousness are not aware of
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  Speaker 1: that there is this place where we all sense it.
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  Speaker 1: We're the observer and the experiencer at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: But we get so used to this realm that we
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  Speaker 1: think that this is real. We think that this is
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  Speaker 1: how it really is, and we're taught that death is
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  Speaker 1: the ending. And unfortunately, in Western cultures, death is looked
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  Speaker 1: at as something bad when actually it's it's it's merely
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  Speaker 1: emerging back into life. Because if death is eternally longer
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  Speaker 1: than life, I think we've got it upside down. I
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  Speaker 1: think that it's it's what we call death is actually
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  Speaker 1: living and it has no death within it. So I
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  Speaker 1: will make it back to that bridge. I will see
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  Speaker 1: those people. I saw Brian good brother of ours milky Way,
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  Speaker 1: and I told Trina he was wearing that damn hat
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  Speaker 1: and I swear he had this shit eating grin on
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  Speaker 1: his face. It was like, you know, you know, it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I've been over here for a number of years and yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think you got it right. So anyway, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What did this place just feel like? Because obviously when
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  Speaker 3: you kind of describe it, I think people that are
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  Speaker 3: familiar with you know, Christianity and the Bible and any
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  Speaker 3: kind of religious institution kind of automatically thinks of like
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  Speaker 3: having you know what I mean? Was this the type
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  Speaker 3: of impression that you got? And did it feel realer
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  Speaker 3: than real?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 3: Did it feel realer than the reality that we're currently in?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's going to sound strange it this place
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  Speaker 1: it's a physical place because I remember looking up into
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  Speaker 1: the firm in it and wow, As I told Trina
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  Speaker 1: the first when I could actually begin to have enough
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  Speaker 1: strength to talk and told her that it was wow.
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  Speaker 1: It was just there were spears up there, huge planet
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  Speaker 1: like things, and it existed not over here, but when
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  Speaker 1: you when you looked directly on, that's where it existed.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if I'm making sense here, but
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  Speaker 1: it's like when I turned old, were the first time
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  Speaker 1: I saw Carla, this didn't exist, but when I looked
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  Speaker 1: over there there it did. Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's it's a multi it's like it. It probably
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  Speaker 1: exists complete, but what I never saw the completeness of it.
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  Speaker 1: Only when I saw looked over there, I saw that
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  Speaker 1: specific area.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, kind of like a video game. That's how
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  Speaker 3: a video game would tend to operate. Like your character
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  Speaker 3: going through a video game, and depending on where you
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  Speaker 3: are is where the environment.
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  Speaker 1: Renders and your point it's perspective. Yeah, yeah, but it's real.
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  Speaker 1: I happened to absolutely believe that I've been there before.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, when I almost passed with the meningitis,
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  Speaker 1: that was the first time that I had come to
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  Speaker 1: this bridge.
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  Speaker 3: What would year was in the.
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  Speaker 1: June nineteen ninety three thereabouts. Yeah, I was in a
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  Speaker 1: coma for eight days. And yeah, so that was and
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  Speaker 1: it was a completely different feeling this time. When I
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  Speaker 1: was in Knoxville. This is where I got really sick.
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  Speaker 1: I was afraid, you know, it was something that I
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to see again. And here thirty five so
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  Speaker 1: years later, you know, you look back and you go,
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  Speaker 1: it's it was different. Yeah, I certainly back to see
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  Speaker 1: my mom.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the.
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  Speaker 1: Relationship I had with my mother was one that could
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  Speaker 1: be written in the books.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I heard that the same type of.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly and you gotta love them. I mean they, you know,
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  Speaker 1: our mothers give birth to us. But wow, mine was
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  Speaker 1: a trip and some sure years was anyone. And I
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  Speaker 1: didn't expect to see her, you know, I did not.
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  Speaker 1: Carla was the shocker though. Well, it just says it's
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  Speaker 1: something you know, I'll encourage with you writer, is that
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  Speaker 1: when we do shows, you know, and we we become
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  Speaker 1: you know, content creators in doing these, we're never aware
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  Speaker 1: of some of the things that we do for people.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't think that so often that we know
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  Speaker 1: that there are those who are really moved and we
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  Speaker 1: help in their lives. And that was the sense that
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I got from Carlo was, you know, it was just
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: very different. So the things we do here do in fact,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: are over to that other side. I think we're specific
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: and I'll share this with you. In this time. It
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: was impressed upon me that many of us are spirit
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: guides in training. In other words, when we finished this
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: mission here many people listening to us, You're not going
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: into the same place that many of the other souls
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: will go into spirits, however you want to define that.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I believe many of us will actually beginning to be
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: guides for those souls, those spirits that are coming in
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: to this realm.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: That would makes sense, like it kind of a graduation
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: type thing, and you do okay here and then you
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: go on and then you go on to help somebody else.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, imagine, and you know the responsibility to be
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: a spirit guide to another spirit and that, and you know,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: rookies don't get into that, you know. So maybe that
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: is my next destiny. Who knows, but there is. It
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: doesn't stop, That's what I do know for sure. I
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: didn't see any pain. I didn't see anything scary. I mean,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: but I don't think like that either. In my spirit.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I don't see death as this foreboding realm. I don't.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I see it as a liberation. And these bodies weigh
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: us down and they rob us because of the density
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: of this reality, and we become convinced that these physical
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: bodies and that which we experience and respond to is
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: real and it's not.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: You know, I just thought of when you're when you
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: were talking about how you were there and you were
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: looking according to your perspective and where you're looking, things
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: would appear. Maybe that's so that your mind isn't overwhelmed
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: in a way, it doesn't overload your mind and it
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: just doesn't shatter into a million pieces, because if you
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: were to see everything all at one time, it's just
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: going to overload your brain and you're just going to
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: go into a nothingness, into a freaking void of nothingness
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: because your mind can't handle.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: It very good. I mean, it may in fact, like
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: you said it, maybe you know that fails safe switch.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: You know that because I'm sure it's an experience. Everything
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I've read from the occult point of view about death
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: is that it's orgasmic and that that you know, you
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: wouldn't think that because of so many tragedies, what you
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: see people dying but you know there's times when great
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: pleasure can be also intense pain.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Probably, I guess orgasmic in the way that it's
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: like a relief. That is, because this reality is super
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: dense and we're in bodies that we're probably not technically
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: meant to be in. So when that spirit is released
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: from the body, it's like, you know, giant weight has
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: just been lifted up all of your shoulders. That's how
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I felt in my near death experience. It was just like, finally,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: everything's okay.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: For hell, it's these bodies. Yeah, we're draft. A spirit
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: can't just unless you're trained, and it takes a lot
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: of training. But most people, the most they ever experience
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: as far as an out of body experience or or
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: something similar to that, is their dreams. Other than that,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: they don't really think beyond that point. And those of
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: us who become aware of that. It's very odd about
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: your film, and I want to get you on the channel,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: you and Jay if you both come out. I love it.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: So you were talking about the LSD experiments that were
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: being conducted in the late sixties and early seventies, and
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: at the time, I was living in Houston, Texas in
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: the Montrose area. First, you know, I was living on
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: the streets. It was fifteen, but in I hung out
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: with I sold a lot of drugs. I sold a
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: lot of LSD, a lot of masculine And when you're
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: sixteen years you old and you can't go to school
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: because you don't have a permanent address. This is the
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: great thing about Harris County. Thank you putting me on
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the street at that age. But so, you know, I
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: was very well versed with taking acid. I mean I
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: take it almost every day. And if I was selling
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: like clear light acid or which was typically many times
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: depending on on the mic and the chemist who was
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: putting it, you could have you know, like two hundred
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: mic acid even a little stronger than that. So and
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: it was this chick I still remember. He had beautiful,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: long blonde hair. Anyway, she asked me, if you know,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I'd like to come with her to this group where
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: they give out free acid. And I was like, yeah,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: that's cool to be.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: You know why.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: We went down and at that time in Houston, down
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: off Memorial Drive, there was ben Toob Hospital. There was
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of medical offices around there. We went there
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: and it was like, I don't know, five o'clock or something. Uh,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: We're there several times and it was weird. It was
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: a nondescript office and her and I went in there
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: and I don't remember signing anything, but there were like
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: six other people there and this this dude comes in
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: with this other chick and you know, they begin to say,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: you know, thank you, and it was like, you know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: so what we're going to be doing today is that
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: we're going to start concentrating and learn how to begin
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: to meditate and begin to project your thoughts outside your body.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I still remember the whole spiel. And so they came
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: around and for us it was it was an eye
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: dropper and we had to lift our tongue and they
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: put it right underneath their tongue, and you know, it
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: was very interesting the the what was taking place in
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: the group, and it was always within a group session
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: and individually you I don't know if they were watching us.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I was. I just wanted to get laid. I wanted
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: to have sex with this doubt. So that was my motivation.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Uh did you do?
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Eventually yeah, one got her. You know, just sixteen,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: What can I say? But anyway, Yeah, and who.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Was running this? Do you do you remember who the
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: name of the building or the group or the.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: People, the Texas Research of Mental Science. I believe that's
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: who it was being, you know, conducted through and we
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: went there.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: For the CIA front organization.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: This normally, well that's when I when I saw your movie,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: and I've seen other clips and it's always drawn me
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: back to so what was this? I mean, what was
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: really going on? What was the purpose? But yeah, well.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: That's what they would do is they would they would
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: pay companies, subcontractors, universities, a lot of universities, see I
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: would pay them. They would fund the experiments. So that way,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: it's not really a like a CIA per se program.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: It's a university program, whereas some other foundations program funded
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: exactly that's what it is, Yeah, just being funded by
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: the CIA. There's several of those types of programs like
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: the Ames Leaf Room, which was done at a university
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: where they would take students into this room that was
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: just covered in leaves and put these goggles on their
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: face and then give them LSD and then they would
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: trip out and like go crazy and end up in
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: the emergency room. Like a lot of weird, weird experiments
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: like that that weren't directly you ran by the CIA,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: but we're funded by the CIA. And the CIA also
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: did like they would you know, rent out entire they
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: would create entire wings of hospitals to do experimentation on
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: you know. One of the biggest ones is up in
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Canada with doctor you and Cameron. That's where a lot
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: of the psychic driving and depatterning techniques would happen. Where
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: they would take a you know, they would basically torture
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: them and to erase all their memories and erase their mind,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: and then they would reprogram them and put new thoughts
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: and new ideas into their head and whatever it is
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: that they wanted them to believe. And he got a
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: lot of that from German scientists. Where he learned how
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: to do a lot of those techniques was from Germany,
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Nazi Germany. So that's really interesting that you got involved
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: with this program because I've been meaning to ask you
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: more about it. You've brought it up a couple of times,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: but for some reason, I never really follow up on
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: or ask you any questions after and that's my fault.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: But how many people do you think were.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I think this was like seven or eight of listen
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: and remember that there was a couple of uh college
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: students and then there were people like me. I mean,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I mean when I was growing up in the Montrose area,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I mean there were thousands of us teenagers. You know,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: it was no one really cared. And so I think
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: as far as you know, ever something going backwards with myself,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: it was pretty low risk because no one was really
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: concerned about us anyway. Maybe the other reason, like I said,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: only went there with because of the chick that I
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: wanted to uh ball. But uh yeah, and quite frankly,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I liked LSD. I mean, I have no doubt that
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: you know, the cops probably knew that, you know, because
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I sold quite a bit that there were a couple
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: of chemists at the university that you know, we would
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: be able to get, you know, whether it was like
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Orange Sunshine or you know, a number of different ones.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: But I enjoyed the effects of LSD and it didn't
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: frighten me. And so getting involved in this this like
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: five meetings that I remember, it was pretty cool. The
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: teaching us to meditate transcendentally, to begin to project ourselves
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: out that that was a pretty cool lesson Because I
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: carried that with me. On other trips, I remember they
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: would we would put these headphones on and they would
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: uh and I don't know what the other participants were hearing,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: but you would hear the different octaves of notes and
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: sounds coming through, and we were to describe, you know,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: what we were seeing for and I still remember that
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: there were always the colors, you know, with with certain
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: notes and yeah, and I've been trying to think, you know,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: because there's a couple of sessions I don't have any recall,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: which is pretty weird, but of what happened or what
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: did not happen, I don't know.
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: But they give you like was there like a debrief
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: type thing after each session where they would sit you
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: down and be like, hey, ask you more questions or
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: was it questions like during the experience.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: It was during these these trips and you know, within
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: four hours you were typically peaking and that's the most
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: intense moments. And that's when these uh, particularly with the
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: sounds I remember, is that, you know, that's when they
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: would get us. There was another time where you get
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: a hold of the other person and you start trying
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: to think their thoughts. You know, you're looking at them
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: and then there you got an observer over here watching this.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I remember that because this check that I was with,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: it wasn't the girl that I wanted to get laid with. Uh,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: but she grew these freaking ears. And I don't know
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: if you remember the stripe gum that was you know, yellow,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and then it was green and anyway, she turned into
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: a cream striped.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Thing and it.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Remember that and I just started laughing and anyway, so, yeah.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: That's wild, that's what. So does it seem did it
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: seem like it was sixth Did they ever give you
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: any kind of indication on the status of the experiment
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: or like how it went or like they consider it
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: successful or.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: What I guess they did. And I mean, you know,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: it was a limited time. I remember, you know, there
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: were five different times that we went in there to
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: the to the that office. But yes, it didn't. Yeah,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I guess it's just that type of dude that.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I saw some people freak out, particularly this one guy. Yeah,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: he had red hair and red mustache and I don't
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: know where the fuck he went, but he went someplace
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: that the rest of us didn't go.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: And uh, yeah, that's wild. I can't that sounds like
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: the when did you say this was in the.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Sixties, nineteen seventy two.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Nineteen seventy two. Okay, I think the because what that
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: reminds me of is a Monroe Institute's binaural beats that
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: they were working on, which was a way to induce
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: an out of body experience. Have you ever heard of
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: the Monroe Institute.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: It's Sindya, I have, I have, but I was not
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: connecting the dots. I mean, I have to look into that.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, well, I'm sorry, what what year did you say?
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: That was nineteen seventy.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: One, nineteen seventy two, if I remember correctly.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, Monroe Institute wasn't founded until nineteen seventy four.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: But it's still an interesting correlation there because it would
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: get these binarrow beat tapes and you can still get
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: them online or whatever they would be like. Of course
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: back then it was Cansett tapes and you put them
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: in the Consett tape and the whole idea was to
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: induce an out of body experience, which is sort of
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: almost exactly like what you said that this experiment was
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: trying to do. Trying to do them, but I would
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: imagine doing it with LSD and these beats would shoot
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: directly out of your body.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: You know. I was. I remember I was living with
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: a guy Nelson, And anyway, we went down and saw
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Creten's clear Oat of Revival in Bo Diddley and I
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: had gotten this window pane acid and once I sold
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: it all, we went into the concert and I mean
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: really started getting in with uh I remember uh Bo
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Diddley playing in the freaking light and the things coming
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: out of as guitar. My point to that is is
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: that when we got back to the house, I was
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: laying out on the car and looking up and there
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: the moon was full and there were clouds moving in
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: and the next thing I know, I was out of
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: my body, literally out of my body, and one of
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: the most fantastic trips I ever had. But I guess
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I would have never had learned that technique if I
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: hadn't been taught by whoever the yahoos were that were
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: teaching us how to use our minds in with intense
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: hallucinogenic effects.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's wild. That's our really good. Because I
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: haven't ran into anybody that's really been a part of
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: any of those types of studies. I mean there's people
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: that you know, say that they were whenever they were
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: you know, like really young children. But it's hard for
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: people to remember that kind of stuff. It's hard to
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: remember anything from when you were really young, you know, yeah,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: like eight nine years old. You can't remember ship from
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: when you're that younger.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: On the street, though I can tell you that, oh.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I can't remember a lot from my teens
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: for suah.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I mean so now I have actually talked to professionals,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: you know, uh, psychologists, and because they wanted to, they
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: find it interesting. So you know, what effect did that
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: have on you know, the brain, my brain compared to
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: another subject that at the same age in non similar environment.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Does the introduction of taking you know, LSD, these type
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: of hallucinogenics, how does that rearrange the thought of the brain,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: the brain in itself. And it's interesting here I stand
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: at the age of sixty nine and look back, and
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: to me, it was very normal. I mean most people
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: don't take LSD, but for me, I just enjoyed it.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I used to go to the mall and walk in
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: between the Persian rugs, you know, the ones that are
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: like twenty feet high, and just being so Stone and
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: feeling the textures and seeing the Paisleys and the multi
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: As I tell people, I learned how to exist in
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: two dimensions at the same time, because that's what it does.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: It completely alters your perspective on reality. But yet reality
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: is really happening around you. I mean there's other people
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: who are not Stone and you are.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, absolutely, it's a different kind The drugs
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: interacts with people differently. I mean, I know some people
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: that can't smoke any kind of weed. It just you know,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: put some immediately into a psychosis. And then I know
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: people that smoke weed every single day and it doesn't.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Really do anything like you know.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know people that can you know, do LSD
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: and E mushrooms all the time. And then I know
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: people that can't. They do it once and they're immediately
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: into a straight up psychosis. So I think that I
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: don't think there's any kind of blanket type of you know,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: statement for people like you. You know, you can't really
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: advocate it for everyone because I mean it's so different,
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: And and again this was fifty years ago, so it's
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: nearly fifty years ago. Where does time go?
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: It's just flying, you know, what I've really realized when
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: is that there there's like a percentage of people out
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: there that you can't reason with anymore. You know, like
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: logic and facts just have no bearing on their reality.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: They just repeat the same standard type of programming, you know,
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: the same talking points. Right though, we have seen a
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: lot of people slowly begin to you know, really see
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: what's going on. But there's also a problem with that.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: There's a problem with catching on to the fact that
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: we're never really going to know the real story surrounding
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: any event, right. And the response to that is, you know,
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: the problem it's either that you continue the bullshit and
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: continue to believe the bullshit that they tell you, or
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: you become cynical and you stop believing anything. And I
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: think that's the biggest problem. You know, like everyone is
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: like everything's fake, everything's stage blah blah blah blah blah,
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: nihlis and exactly nihilism, and neither one of those either
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: you know, believing in all the bullshit that you're being told,
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: or the nihilistic outcome where everything's fake and stage is
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: adequate ways to live your life, right, Because both of
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: those outcomes are perfect for the people that want to
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: maintain power because if people keep believing the nonsense, the
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: group that's in power can do whatever they want. And
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: if people become so disillusioned with the system and start
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: to believe that everything is fake and staged, also perfect
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: because they aren't a threat either. You know, That's really
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: how it works, just like how everyone says, oh, yeah, well,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: the left and the right are just the two sides
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: of the same coin, or you know, the o they're
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: saying is two wings of the same bird. Well, so
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: is believing everything that you're told and also thinking that
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: everything is fake and staged, because they both lead to
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: the same exact outcome, which is chaos and destruction because
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: neither do anything. And I'm just seeing an increase of this,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: like with everyone, you know, they're either on one camp
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: or the other camp. Like I'm believing everything that I'm
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: being told or I believe absolutely none of it and
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: it's all bullshit, made up nonsense. And I think that
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: the the truth is in the middle, you know. And
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: that's not me trying to be like take the center
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: path or the middle path or whatever. Yeah, pat the
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: purple pill, but I think that that's that's the truth.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: There's got to be like a balance here. What do
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: you think have you seen a increase in this type
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: of behavior where people are it's all fake, it's all staged,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: it's all made up, it's all garbage, it's all nonsense.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: It's like I think as a result in I'm on
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: the record on this one, I think the Internet is
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: not this benign tool that we really think it is.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: It is a system of takeover and the species, the
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Homo sapien species, where we are in our development, I
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: think we're at that fragile point, and what's happening as
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I see it, is that there is this so much
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: information download and the information our brains are not equipped
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: to handle this. I mean, you think about this, go
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: back two hundred years ago, people had more time to meditate,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: people had more time to think why because there wasn't
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: the noise. And today that noise has become a cocophony
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: of just absolutely it shatters us. And there are those
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: psychics who are not psych psyches that have taken the
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: point that everything that they see in technology is fake,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: it's manipulated, it's controlled, and therefore I'm not going to
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: believe any of it. Okay, well, you believe in something,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: and then you have the the other side of the
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: the of the equation that I and I see it,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: and you know what, they're doing this the most, this
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: is really weird. In rest homes, nursing homes, assisted living homes.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: They put on for instance, cn CNN is on every
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: one of these buildings, every one of these places, and
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: so it's you have this other crowd and I'm speaking
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: for the senior citizens, and then this goes down all
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: the way, uh and each demographic group they're convinced that
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: that's the freaking truth, that's what reality is. And it
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter where you try to tell them that not
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: quite right, you know, they'll never see it that way.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: And I think it's this program that it's designed to
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: polarize us. It's it's designed to bifurcate us in our
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: views and our opinions and our abilities to cohesively talk
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: and form opinions and ideas outside what's being fed. And
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I look at the nihilism as an opportunity to because
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: they're they're they're they completely want to be in denial
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: of everything. And to me, that is a more manipulated
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: mind than the one that's already been converted, and I
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: think we're going to see this continue now. I think
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: there's some wild cards they throw in there. But to
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: answer your questions, yeah, and I think it's becoming very clear,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: as I've told this to my audience writer, when governments
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: begin to look for total control, they don't look at
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: the nihilism. They don't look at the converts that are
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: already watching Fox News, MSNBC, whoever it is. They have
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: their own little circles over there, but they're all the
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: same group. The ones they fear the most are the
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: free thinkers because we can look at this and say, yeah,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: there's reality, folks, there's no doubt that this is real. Now,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: the question is, well, who's behind it, what's its endgame,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: what's the purpose here? And it's us. And then they
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: tried to initially enable us as conspiracy theorist, you know,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: well everything is conspiracy to them. No, no, we're not
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: that either. We're rational, cognitive thinkers that we question everything
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: that's in control. If you're in control, then they're there's
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: a reason for it, why, And so they try to
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: get rid of us. I mean, look at the purge
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: that happened on YouTube about five years ago. Yep, I
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: mean it was weird. So I think us free thinkers
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: have the opportunity to show, particularly the nihilists, because like
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: I said, they're so easily manipulated where they are, that
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: it's all right if you think that. But just instead
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: of this denying everything, just question it, not deny its existence,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: but question it and question it for why is it?
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I was one time very deeply
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: into the ministry of Christianity, and you look back on
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: those techniques, it's it's very interesting because it is a
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: form of mind control.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's this thing that's called the Cartesian crisis. Have
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: you ever heard of this? The meaning of the Cartesian
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: crisis describes the inability to be sure of anything right,
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: So you're not sure of you know, scientific methods, you know,
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: basic facts and historical events, you know, to such a
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: degree that it leads to the complete collapse in destruction
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: of reason itself. And I think that that's where we're
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: currently approaching, especially with the community. Not my community, not
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: your community. I'm saying, like the community as a whole, right,
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: I think that that's where it currently sits, and.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: If it keeps it's.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: A very dangerous place and if it keeps going like this,
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: I feel like it's going to implode upon itself. And
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: if you straddle the fence, then you're another going to
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: be devoured. Right, So it's like I feel like that's
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: where things are headed. That's just where where in Barack
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: Obama has talked about this. Obama has talked about it.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: Yourybzmanoff talked about it. The kid ub defector that showed
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: on this show several times. Right, if you confuse the
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: public so much to the point that they no longer
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: know what to believe, then that you can do they
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: can do whatever they want. Yeah, it can just throw
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: so much information at them twenty four seven all the
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: time that they can no longer know what to believe.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: They're so confused, so out of alignment. Then the plan
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: is solidified. Wow, you know.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: So you look at what's happening, and and and and
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: there's always an endgame. There's a purpose to this, and uh,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: it's one of those things like with the Georgia guidestones,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: was that a warning was that the contract that they
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: were trying to show the world what's going to becoming,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: that the world should have no more than five hundred
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: million people living on it, and then you have the
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: associated rules that those five hundred million should be following.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: And I often wondering that if we're really in the
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: midst of history. The Samarians had the unique ability as
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: a culture in society to understand that they were taking
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: an active role in history. That's why they were the
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: first ones that actually put down in the tablets the
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: Samarian writings. And I think we're at that same point.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: I think that we're at a point now in our
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: development as a species that the endgame is coming very
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: quickly because this much psychic energy, and that's the thing
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: about the inner it sucks the psychic energy of the participants,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: the prisoners, I guess we are and that eventually cannot
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: continue to maintain at that same level. I mean, I
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: often wonder are we on the verge of a civil
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: war in this country? Is there something here in that
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: it's going to implode us as a country. You know,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: the old saying is true, a house divided against itself cannotstand.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: And are we right now in that which the historians
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: will write a thousand years in the future, maybe even
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: one hundred years, that it was us, our generation, this moment,
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: this time, we were the active element of what was
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: going to impact history from here going forward in a
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: manner that you know, the same as the fall of
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: the Roman impact the fall of Visiting Empire. I think
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: that we're at one of those critical junctions for us,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: not as a as a nation, but also as a species.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: I agree with that absolutely. We are approaching that time
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: very rapidly, and it's going to happen within the next
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: couple of months. And if it doesn't happen within the
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: next couple of months, it's going to happen by the
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: end of the year. And oh yet we're at that
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: critical point right now. And one thing that I just
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: want to know, Wane, is who in the hell is
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: currently running our country? Good question that I want to know.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: Who Who is it? Who's running?
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: We know it's not Biden, we know it's not Harris. Uh,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: the question really and this is the scary thing because
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: these social channels don't want this out there. It's very
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: evident to the observer, those who are looking for this
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: that this is a very clear that this shadow government
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: is act through the one running and we don't know
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: who it is. It's sure the hell. Mike Johnson, the
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Speaker of the House. It certainly is in the Senate.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Do you know the Congress has been out for six weeks.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is nuts. And you look at all
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: these factors, there's something else going on. I deal a
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: lot of times in day treating and I have been
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: watching the manipulation of gold, and what really freaks me
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: out is where I see silver going. And that tells
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: me clearly. For instance, the Russians have been for the
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: last decade buying gold, gold, gold, gold, the bricks. That's
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: what they're all about, and they're increasing their position. Uh.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: You look at people like Jamie Diamond who is saying
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: that the red flags are everywhere, but no one in
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: America is aware of it. And I happen to agree
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: with you. We're going to wake up one morning because
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: that the Fed's trying to do the the fed one
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: thing with the digital dollar. They have to that's the
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: only way that they can control this crash that's about
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: to hit us. I don't talk about it very often
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: because it freaks people out, but it can't be avoided.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: And when it hits, it's going to be ugly. It's
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: going to be It's going to catch a lot of
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: people off guard. And the first thing that we're going
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: to see is the collapse is the food chain. And
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: they're all ready, We're already there. People aren't realizing when
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: we talk about inflation, we talk about how much it
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: costs to eat. It has advanced in the last four years,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: nearly thirty one percent. You can't sustain a financial system
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: with that type of increase. Eventually it collapse. Is and
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: for me personally, yes, you're right, we are. We are
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: so close to this.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's really scary, and it's really scary, like
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: when you think about it, when you set back and
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: you really because a lot of people like the romanticize,
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: you know, the collapse of civilization and how awesome and
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: fun it's good. No, it's not. It's gonna be the
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: worst thing that you've ever experienced in the entire life.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Lots of people are going to die, and uh, it's
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: not going to be fun and the least bit at
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: all period. But movies and TV shows have programmed people
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: to think that, you know, this is what this is
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: what we want, this is what's going to happen, and
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be great and it's gonna be so it's
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: gonna be like mad max Land or whatever. No, it's not.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be really, really bad. And I see it coming.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: I just went to the store the other day and
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: for one meal when it calls to me, sixty dollars, wow,
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: one know it was. I was making some veggie enchiladas
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: and to get everything for those veggie enchiladas cost me
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: sixty dollars. And that wasn't even And that was with
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: two orange juices on top of it too, you know,
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: two liters of orange juices. That's it. Just two liters
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: of orange juices and everything that I need for anchiladas.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: That's it. And it wasn't even the expensive stuff. It
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: wasn't even like the really great organic.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Foods good stuff.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was literally the basic stuff. And it cost
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: me sixty dollars for one meal.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: And that is And.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: That's the thing about inflation, too, Wane, is inflation never
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: goes down. Once it goes up, it just keeps going up.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: It never It's not like gas prices. How gas prices
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: like can fluctuating and go down sometimes. Inflation is not
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: like that. It just keeps going.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: I think you're right, that is that that's never going
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: to happen. And the thing that here's where the occult
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: for me comes in. So you want to talk about magic,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: a black magic. Dark magic is designed to deceive and
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: distract its victims. Well, the financial markets are exactly that
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: right now unfolding. You have the artificial cost for gasoline.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: You have what they call subsidizing, taking our money and
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: subsidizing the price, which then makes it worse because you're
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: artificially keeping it down. And then when you take off
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: those constraints, it begins to jump to a point where
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: it's unobtainable. And all of these things are in factor.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: You look at the United States House of Representatives in
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: the United States Senate, what they have done is a
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: travesty to the American people. We have now under this
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: current administration, gone nearly nine trillion dollars in debt. We
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: don't have that money. The United States has technically broke even,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: and if you look at the debt clock, they always
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: tried to offset it. Well, we have land, and we
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: have people. Well people are basically slaves, that's what it is.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: We're traded. And when you have an economic collapse like
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: we had in the nineteen twenties that led into the
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: First Great Depression, our society can't exist today. If we
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: had those similar things going on, there would be chaos everywhere.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: There would be in which we're already there. You now
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: have these migrants that are now because they can't eat,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: they're rating supermarkets. Eventually you're going to have it to
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: where the supermarkets will have armed guards and limit those
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: who can go in. In fact, I understand that's already happening.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: It's a societal collapse.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: Yep. And I want to know how long freaking Harris
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: known about Biden's cognitive decline. How long did she know
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: that he wasn't all there, you know? And how how
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: many times lied to us? How long did mainstream media
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: lie to us over and over again that Biden was
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: all cognitive least.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: Older and drew the clips writer that you know, ABC News,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: NBC News, CNN, MSNBC all saying that the president is fine,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: that his health, his doctor says his cognitive health is outstanding.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: These were direct lies and deceptions. And then we're talking
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: about the president of the United States, the most powerful
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: man supposedly in the in the world, and now we
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: find out that he hasn't been home up here for
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: at least the last three years.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, it should have been a telltale sign whenever
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: they tried to prosecute him for the supposed documents or whatever,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: and then they came out and said that he wasn't
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: mentally equipped to stand trial. That should have been a
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: red flag. How long ago was that?
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Well, I've seen constitutionalist attorneys who have said that that's
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: one thing the Department Jeffson is going to have to
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: answer for. They chose not to prosecute a man that
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: had committed a felony. Robert Hurr, the special prosecutor, that's
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: what he said, read the report. He committed a felony.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: He did not have the authorization as a senator nor
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: as a vice president to have any of those documents.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: And yet we go and prosecute Trump on Trump up charges.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: And that's what's so freaking scary. We are there right now.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: I told someone recently, we are where Nazi Germany was
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty two. We are exactly at the same spot.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: Yep, I believe it. And as I mean, that's all
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: the signs are there when you look historically at a
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: lot of the events and what they do to try
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: and get out of a situation like this, it's always
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: war wo and this time it's going to end up
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: as some form I personally believe as an uprising, some
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: sort of civil conflict. I mean, they've already been pumping
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: up that, you know, wasn't it. Biden this said in
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: like twenty twenty one that the greatest threat to American
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: democracy is domestic terrorism. I'm pretty sure he said that.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: He also said when he came into his term of
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: office that we were entering the dark Winter. That wasn't
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: a season, that's an event, that's a long drawing out wrong,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: thank you, sir, Absolutely long. That's what's the difference between
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: a strategy and a strategist. The strategy is something that
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: you plan for short term. A strategist is when it
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: looks at the big picture and said, well, this is
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: like Obama, as he said, the nudge theory. You don't
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: push an opponent, You nudge them very slowly, very inconspicuously,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: and eventually he's gonna look up and going, what the
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: hell happened?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: We're there? Yeah, I'm pretty sure that we're all gonna
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: be looking up and going to be like, what the
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: hell happened here? Pretty soon.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be on a list I'm already on the list,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: but it's like, okay, put me on the Christmas list,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: you know. But yeah, it's just.
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  Speaker 3: So wild, the amount of lies and the amount of
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: gas lighting, and it's just blatantly come from the mainstream
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: media and MSNBC, and I mean, and Fox News is
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: no better. I don't listen to any news channel. I
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: just see the headlines, and the headlines are completely ridiculous.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: It's you know what I really and it hurts me inside,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: is the fact that we have such a nation of
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: great leaders, great thinkers, but they won't step up to
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: come into leadership positions, and then we're stuck with what
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: we have today. And you know, I was telling my
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: audience just the other day. You know, there are so
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: many brilliant female leaders in business, in academics, and yet
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: we have one that this so fails the resume. I mean,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: I look at the presidential race that as a board
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: of director, that means me as a citizen that I'm
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: doing an interview, I'm interviewing two candidates for the position,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: and I often said, you know, like alphabet, they back hairs.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: And I wrote to them because I own stock, and
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: I said, so you're backing Harris. But my question is,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: would you allow Harris to run Google? Now I'd let Trump.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't know if if I like his policies.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: But hey, listen, he's the one flying around in his
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: own private seven fifty seven. You know, I mean that
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: that at least is I'm doing the resume thing. You
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: got to check that off going. At least he knows
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: how to run a business. But anyway, you know what.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: The wildest thing about this whole thing is is that
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: we don't even know any of Harris's policies. We don't
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: know what she is going to do. She was literally
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: asked the other day. I think that it was on CNN.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: I posted a clip of it on my Facebook page
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: where she was asked, what are you going to do
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: about inflation? And she said, oh, well, the fandom. She
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: stuttered around a little bit, and then she said, well,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: the American families. They need to realize that the cost
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: of living is going up. Like, what did you just say?
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: Like she did, There's no, there's nothing on her website
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: that indicates anything that she's going to do if she
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: becomes president besides copy everything that Trump is sent.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: Literally, the other day she said that she was going
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: to build a wall.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: Let's see the borders are. For the last three and
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: a half years, so she, under her watch has allowed
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: the United States to be invaded by the single largest
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: army of people ever recorded in history. And because of
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: those acts that she failed to do as the vice president,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: has now ramifications that going to reverberate in this nation
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: of violence. It's going to come in as shortages. And
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: we don't know how many terrorists are here, but they're here,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: and you're right. I mean, it's so pathetic that they
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: put hairs up there and we watched her do a
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: coudeta on Biden. She violated the laws of the Democratic platform. Yeah,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's very frightening to see where we are.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: And listen, I am not an all Trump fan.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: The thing My thing against Trump is that, buddy, you
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: may have long had to run a business, but when
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: you came in as president, you were so freaking naive
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: that you let your enemies inside your inner camp. And
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: you want to know why you had such a rough time.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: You should have been smarter than that. You should have
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: been smarter than a lot of things. But you know,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: if I have yeah, it's.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: Well the thing that I agree with that and I
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: agree with that one. But he admitted that if you
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: listen to his h oh yeah, if you listen to
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: his interview on The Sean Ryan Show, at the end
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: of the interview, he admits all that. He said, Listen,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 3: my first term, I really had no idea what I
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: was doing. And that takes a big man.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of for that, yeah, and respect.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: To do that to come out and say, listen, like
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: my first term, I didn't know have any but you've
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: seen throughout his four years that he started firing a
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: lot of people, getting rid of a lot of people.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: So what the hell's going on here?
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah? So I don't know. I'm not you know, I
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: obviously I've never voted in my life, and I'm gonna
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: continue not to vote. But I can call out things
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: when I see a bunch of hypocrisy, a bunch of nonsense.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: What's going on? I mean, it was like.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: Here in the state of Missouri that I live in,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: they got a Senate race going in, right, They've put
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars both sides into one race. That
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: of the job position that if you take the six
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: years doesn't even pay a million dollars. What's going on here?
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, and it's you're just a man.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: It's nuts, it is wild, and we're in for a uh.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in a Marx Brothers movie and
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: I can't get out. Groucho is you know? Kamala Harris
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: you know, and I'm going, oh crap and harpos Trump.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: Well, you got any predictions for the debate today that happens.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: In I think is going to be the chess master. Listen,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Kamala will bury herself by her own words. I mean,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: she has she has no track record, and I happen
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: to think that where Trump handled Biden like a mastro
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: that he today, Trump is going to be the wizard
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: behind the curtain that you know, I think she I
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: think she's going to sing herself. But here's my other prediction.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: I believe that Trump is going to make it as president.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to allow him in as president.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: I think Kamala will become president of the United States
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: and October fifteenth of this year, Joe Biden will resign
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: for medical of cognitive decline, and that when the election
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: is over in the results, this is just my opinion
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: that Trump will have won, but they will not allow
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: him to take office.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: Who so you think Biden's going to completely step down
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: out of all I.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Know, it's a fact. It's already. It's in the back channels.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing it everywhere now coming out. He will be
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: stepping down.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: Why didn't they do that earlier? Why didn't they do that?
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: Dementia late stage dementia is that you can cognitively function
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: pretty well in stage one, two, and three, but when
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: you start reaching into the fourth stages of dementia, that's
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: where it advances. And this is what happened to Joe Biden.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: He is now in a advanced state of dementia and
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: he cannot continue as president. And this is in the works.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: You know, when the coupdeka took over him and he
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: realized who his true enemies were, he gave up. He
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: gave up running this country. He gave up, and he
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: knew that the eventuality was that because of his cognitive decline,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: he will step down and you will see Madam Harris
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: becoming the first female president of the United States.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: See. I just did not think that that's the way
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: that they wanted to do it. I didn't think that
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: they want.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: They wanted to do it that way on that it's
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: not what Obama wanted. So it tells me someone else
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: besides Obama is riding the horse. I don't know who that.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: Is, because that's a really super cheaty way to get
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: a woman like the president of the United States, you
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: know what I mean, the first woman president on it
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: didn't actually win the presidents she was given the presidency.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: It's like, man, pump the brakes on that one. Pump
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: the brakes on that one. But I thought that if
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: they were going to do that, they would have already
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: done it.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. I think that you have
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: to other factors that are in play here. I mean
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: the reason why I think they delayed the sentencing for
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Trump in the New York case they didn't want to
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: give any other more advantage to them. They've already made
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: him a martyr because I said, when they had tried
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: to assassinate him, they raised him to the level of demigod.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: And that was a big mistake. The thing with Harris,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: and I think it's because of Biden's cognitive decline. It
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: started kicking in so quick that they couldn't give him
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: anything to counter it, and as a result, no one
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: had a fallback position. If it wasn't Harris, then who
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: was it going to be Newsome? I mean, there there
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: were other candidates out there, but no, I think the
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: powers to be said, we're going to coalesce around Harris
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: and we'll rewrite her history, we'll rewrite her image, and
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: you know, I think that they're rolling the dice. But
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: I do not believe that they will allow Trump in
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: as president.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: Man. I really hope that they don't do it like
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: that that's going to be it. But but that's that
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: will take all the attention off of anything Trump's doing.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: Is if Biden completely steps down and Harris is the
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: president for three months before.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: I think about this, if his I don't know when
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: this seems so it's just.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: So late in the game to pull something like that.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: They were going to do that, they should have already
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: have done it. Should have done it instead of Biden
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: saying that he's not running, he should have just been like,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: I'm stepping down completely in Paris, is now the president.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I think that this also this
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: aided in Biden's decline. I mean, it's just me and
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: and it depends on when they're going to sentence Trump.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: It'll probably be now, be in sometime in December, so
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: he'll get a felony conviction with prison time. We are
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: going to be in a hell of a mess because
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: if he wins the election, then he gets convicted with
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: jail time. How you know, do you see the scenario
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: being set up?
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: But you can't convict the setting president though, you can't
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: bring charges against the sitting president.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: But his conviction was you see where we're at.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a chess game, man, and I
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: don't know what minds you're playing the pieces. But and listen,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: I read most of my stuff through the financial outlets
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: because they really tell you what's going on, what's happening
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: in the markets. And this is what the markets are saying,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: this is what they're preparing for.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: Oh man, it's even worse, worse than I thought I
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: was gonna be.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: Hey, listen, what I got real concerned when Putin backed
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Harris and now the the the Iranian government is backing Harris.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, come on, folks, that this wait a minute, you.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: Didn't think that that was a major troll from Putin
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: liked they control the United States, they try and say
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: something good about my country with.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: The Americans heads. It really does. I think this dude
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: is a total mind job. Man. It's like, you know,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: let me just really throw in some other stuff here.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, wouldn't that be really funny? Though? If he was like, Okay,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: this is what I want to do. I want to
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: try and make them to say something good about me
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: and my country. So I'll support I'll support Harris. So
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: then in this NBC and CNN and all the people
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: have to be like, oh my god supports us.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: You talked about the troll because you know, when I
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: heard that, I'm going, well, what the hell about Ukraine? What?
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: All right? Sure, go go go.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: I thought that would have been really funny. But I
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: think that really quickly. My thoughts on the debates, and
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna wrap it up. I think that it's going
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: to go pretty much of the way that the first
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: debate went with with Biden, and I hope that Trump
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: is really reserved in his actions and he doesn't that
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: it's not that twenty twenty debate with him and Biden
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: because he did too much there, too much that yes,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: this is the perfect I mean, we know that she
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: can't string a sentence together. We know that she can't
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: talk without a teleprompter telling her what to say. She
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: freezes up when she has to go off of the teleprompter,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: so we know that she's not gonna be able to
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: I think she's just as bad as Biden, and she
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: has no excuse because Biden has mental problems. She doesn't.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: She should be able to get up there and speak
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: exactly what she wants to say, but she can't. And
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: I think if Trump just takes a step back, relax,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: let her bury herself, then it's all going to become
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: abundantly clear. But if he doesn't, and he goes off
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: and he tries to do the Hillary Clinton thing that
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: he did with Hillary Clinton and the thing that he
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: did with Biden in the twenty twenty debates, then it's
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: going to be a really wishy washy and then they
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: can use some things to their advantage there. But if
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: he just sets back and lets her bury herself, then
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: it'll all be good. But if he doesn't, it's a
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: different story. But Wayne, thanks so much for coming on.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: Really appreciate it. Mobally discussion, so let people know where
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: they can find you.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: R Wayne Steiger over on YouTube and on Rumble and Odyssey,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: so yeah, for sure, and I want to get you
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: and jay On over on my channel so we can
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: talk about the new movie.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: Absolutely whenever it gets when it gets released, I just
• 1:20:09
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• 1:20:14
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• 1:20:17
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