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Everything They Told You About China Is Falling Apart | Silk and Steel · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: We are live.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome everyone to episode four of Carl Za and I
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  Speaker 2: reacting to the world with a heavy focus on Chinea.
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing today, Carl?
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  Speaker 3: How are you sir? Where's your shirt?
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  Speaker 2: Good?
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  Speaker 4: Where's your shirt? I come prepared? Okay, we go, Now
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  Speaker 4: we can get started.
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  Speaker 2: This is way harder than last week.
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  Speaker 4: I got a little bit of.
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  Speaker 1: A shoulder injury.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, what happened?
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  Speaker 1: We had well, no, I.
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  Speaker 2: Was helping out at the school and children's dad. We
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  Speaker 2: had this giant two meter inflatable ball that I helped
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  Speaker 2: organize some stuff and it ended up being indoors because
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  Speaker 2: it was raining outside and I was showing the kids
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  Speaker 2: how to get a lot of height on it.
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  Speaker 1: So for basically three sessions.
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  Speaker 2: Three hours, this two meter ball and it comes down
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  Speaker 2: with a lot of force, even though it's filled with air, oh,
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  Speaker 2: pushing it up in the air as high as it
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  Speaker 2: can go.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And now it's gonna take it's going to take at
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  Speaker 2: least a week to recover from that. It was worth it.
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  Speaker 2: It was worth it was fun. So we got a
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  Speaker 2: lot of stuff lined up today and we will uh
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  Speaker 2: will jump right into it. As I'm bringing that up.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a there's one tweet that got deleted, but
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  Speaker 4: I think I have it on my phone in the
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  Speaker 4: because it's saved the cash. I'll find it. There was
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  Speaker 4: a very like ridiculous tweet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there were a couple of them.
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  Speaker 2: When I went back through, they had been deleted or
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  Speaker 2: removed or the original poster had.
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  Speaker 1: Been shamed, Yeah, removing it. There's a few.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, there's another one, a bonus one I added, which
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  Speaker 2: instead of being shamed into removing it, they just blocked
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  Speaker 2: the comments so that them.
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  Speaker 1: I'll get to that. That's a classic too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah they that too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so okay, we will while you're looking for that.
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  Speaker 4: I found it. I found it, okay, So so what
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  Speaker 4: send it to my reason? I don't know if no,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's saved on my phone, Like you can see
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  Speaker 4: my catch, it's sitting in the cats. They deleted the tweet,
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  Speaker 4: but it's sitting on my on my catch on my phones.
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  Speaker 4: So maybe what I can do is like do something
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  Speaker 4: like this. I don't know if people will be able
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  Speaker 4: to see it.
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  Speaker 1: We can't really, we can't really see it that well.
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  Speaker 4: But because it's well, then let me let me turn
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  Speaker 4: on the audio see if people can can hear it
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  Speaker 4: that that's more important.
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  Speaker 6: I think, especially for me from the United States, and
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  Speaker 6: I find uh city council and campaigns, municipalities, campaigns talking
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  Speaker 6: about Israel, and this reminds me of like it's like,
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  Speaker 6: uh uh, he he needs to do reforms. Egypt was
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  Speaker 6: absolutely destroyed by bad economy, by a bad planning, and
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  Speaker 6: skip goad is Israel because he can never really talk
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  Speaker 6: about the reforms he needs to do. And it's the
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  Speaker 6: same thing that I'm afraid is coming, especially here and
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  Speaker 6: when it's very important to understand the Israel fixation not
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  Speaker 6: as as a proxy for a bigger war. On a
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  Speaker 6: policy level, I think that's a very important thing. Not
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  Speaker 6: a lot of people are not aware of it, of
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  Speaker 6: how Israel has been just a skipped for that.
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  Speaker 7: You mentioned the issue of Israel as a proxy. Can
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  Speaker 7: you just unpack for us what the benefits are to
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  Speaker 7: try of the of bring away on the question, Well.
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  Speaker 6: I think I think it's beneficial for China, for Iran,
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  Speaker 6: and also for Russia in that sense, because because if
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  Speaker 6: you're thinking that Israel is the source of all of
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  Speaker 6: your problems, you're not looking at your problems. You will
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  Speaker 6: never ask the question Okay, I actually don't have electricity
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  Speaker 6: or good water today because it's because of the Zionists.
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  Speaker 6: That's not an answer. But but you can see now
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  Speaker 6: a lot of this new generation to get their generation as.
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  Speaker 8: If I'm not.
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  Speaker 4: You get there.
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  Speaker 6: I mean it's you see TikTok Instagram, that's how you
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  Speaker 6: get your information. And you can see now like even
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  Speaker 6: the people's language always the Zionists occupy government. What are
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  Speaker 6: we talking about? Uh, you elected, you voted for for
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  Speaker 6: these people.
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  Speaker 9: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: And it's and it's a big problem because you're not
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  Speaker 6: approaching reality. You are constantly deflecting and blaming Israel for
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  Speaker 6: things that it has nothing to do. Uh.
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  Speaker 7: Penetration is from China.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, exactly.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Chinese are conducting genocide and all of the all
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  Speaker 7: of the attacks on Israel deflect from that.
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  Speaker 4: So this is one of the Hudson Isitude, which is
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  Speaker 4: a Neo kong think tank in Washington, And what they're
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  Speaker 4: talking about is China. It is China doing an influence
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  Speaker 4: up on social media to distract from the real genocide
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  Speaker 4: in Shin Jump by blaming Israel on Gaza.
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  Speaker 3: Like they got so much pushback.
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  Speaker 4: Hudson Institute actually deleted that tweet, but thankfully internet is
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  Speaker 4: forever because the video got saved on the cash on
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  Speaker 4: my phone, so even though the we was deleted, it
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  Speaker 4: still shows up on my phone. That's why I had
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  Speaker 4: to play it from my phone. And this is this
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  Speaker 4: is what I talk about when they talk about China.
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  Speaker 4: Every accusation is a confession. This is what they do.
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  Speaker 4: They have been actually trying to talk about supposedly real
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  Speaker 4: genocide in Shinjung to distract what's actually happening in Gaza.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, they has audacity to turn that around.
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  Speaker 4: So I thought that was like just just outrageous, and
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  Speaker 4: that's why I, you know, I had saved and send
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  Speaker 4: it to you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think that in I've said this before.
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  Speaker 2: They've laid off the Shinjang narrative for a while because
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  Speaker 2: it just would have been too tacky to do that
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  Speaker 2: while the Gaza issue was headlined, you know, on the
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  Speaker 2: front page, when you could see the destruction, you could
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  Speaker 2: see what was happening to people, And they laid off
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  Speaker 2: of it a little bit because it just would have
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  Speaker 2: looked so hypocritical. You want us to pretend to care
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  Speaker 2: about Muslims in China to which things are happening to them,
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  Speaker 2: supposedly happening to them, which requires the use of our imagination.
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  Speaker 2: When what is going on in Israel we can see
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  Speaker 2: with our own eyes. It just would have been tacky.
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  Speaker 2: But now that it's not at the forefront, you'll see
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  Speaker 2: them perhaps trying to creep this narrative back in and
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  Speaker 2: this may be their way of testing the grounds. And
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  Speaker 2: obviously it didn't work. They got so much hate on that,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 4: And there was so much to unpack what she said.
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  Speaker 4: She said, Oh, it's a distraction. It's a distraction from
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  Speaker 4: the fact that they don't have electricity and water running water. Well, Daniel,
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  Speaker 4: you live in tome Chin, China. How is your electricity
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  Speaker 4: and running water situation?
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  Speaker 1: We got, we got no problem. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then and then also to distract from China and Russia,
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  Speaker 2: even this idea, even if there were things in China
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  Speaker 2: and Russia that people should be caring about. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the government isn't funding China and Russia like they are Israel.
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  Speaker 2: Israel should be getting more scrutiny. Even if you wanted
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  Speaker 2: to believe that there were things going on in these
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  Speaker 2: countries that you should care about. That you're not funding.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it, it's just basic logic.
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  Speaker 1: But it's uh.
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  Speaker 2: And I think for all of these reasons, people are
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  Speaker 2: seeing through that and it doesn't work anymore. So they'll
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  Speaker 2: throttle back. They're gonna try again, They're gonna try again
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  Speaker 2: later on. But obviously it's just too much, too soon,
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  Speaker 2: and it's it's not working for.
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  Speaker 4: Them, And she's gaslighting the young people in the United States.
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  Speaker 4: They say, well, you know, how can you blame the
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  Speaker 4: Israel or the so called Israeli influenced on the government.
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  Speaker 3: You elected the government in the United States.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, I don't know how many zoomers elected Traump,
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  Speaker 4: I mean voted for Trumph, right. I mean, this is
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  Speaker 4: just gas lighting to the max right here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean the idea that people are just
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  Speaker 2: choosing on their own and they would choose these choices anyway.
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  Speaker 2: It kind of falls apart when you think about how
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  Speaker 2: much money is going into the pro Israel lobby in
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  Speaker 2: the US. Obviously people are being influenced. The average person,
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  Speaker 2: they're not deep into geopolitics like a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: people who are ending up on these panels. They're just like,
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  Speaker 2: oh okay, and they are influenced by those operations, and
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  Speaker 2: that is a perfect tie into something that I forgot
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  Speaker 2: to mention last week. We were supposed to talk about
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  Speaker 2: that there was a mayor who apparently was, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a CCP agent, and we talked about some of the
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  Speaker 2: ridiculousness of the auxiliary points, but we did forget to
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  Speaker 2: mention the main point and the main accusation. So let
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  Speaker 2: me see, let me know if that's coming up on
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  Speaker 2: your screen. I'm not seeing it on my side.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I see it. I see it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, for some reason, it's not showing up here. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So this was the mayor who apparently was charged with
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  Speaker 2: being a CCP agent. And when you look at the
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  Speaker 2: actual accusation, what it was was before she was a mayor,
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  Speaker 2: she was involved in some sort of a newspaper and
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  Speaker 2: apparently some sort of a Chinese think tank or something
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  Speaker 2: like that, potentially linked to the Chinese government, according to them,
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  Speaker 2: gave her articles to publish on her journal, on her newspaper.
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  Speaker 2: And so is that illegal. I mean, they could say
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  Speaker 2: that that's illegal, but they're not obviously not applying that
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  Speaker 2: equally across the board. And I would imagine that somebody
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  Speaker 2: who's publishing that, they would have looked at it and said, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I agree with it. They're saying that genocide is not
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  Speaker 2: going on in Shinjang. This is something I agree with.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to post it. The idea that that is
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  Speaker 2: a massive violation in a country where you're supposed to
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  Speaker 2: have absolute free speech and people are supposed to figure
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  Speaker 2: out these things on their own is an issue, But
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  Speaker 2: that's fine if they want to say that this is
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  Speaker 2: a form of foreign influence. All it's doing is trying
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  Speaker 2: to convince people that, oh, you know what, there's something
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  Speaker 2: you know. The narrative of actually what's going on in
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  Speaker 2: China is different from what you're being fed. A bigger
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  Speaker 2: violation than that would be a pro Israel lobby actually
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  Speaker 2: working directly with government members and funding their campaigns to
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  Speaker 2: get them elected in order to pass pro Israel policies.
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  Speaker 2: That would be and that is happening, one hundred percent
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  Speaker 2: a bigger violation. So the idea of making what this
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  Speaker 2: mayor did illegal, I don't really have a problem with that,
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  Speaker 2: but just apply it equally, because there are far greater
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  Speaker 2: violations going on than just that that you're not paying
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  Speaker 2: attention to. I don't know if you had any more
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  Speaker 2: thoughts on that or if you looked into her story
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  Speaker 2: more specifically.
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  Speaker 4: Not not specifically her story. But this is what they
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  Speaker 4: do now, uh. They they're they're using the FARA, which
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  Speaker 4: is a for you know, foreign registration foreign agent registration law.
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  Speaker 4: They can claim like because this is very nebulous, they
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  Speaker 4: can claim anything like you know, if you meet with
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  Speaker 4: embassy staff or you attended some affiliated uh a meeting,
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  Speaker 4: they can claim you are you are somehow a foreign
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  Speaker 4: influenced agent and you you fail to register with the
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  Speaker 4: US government that you are a foreign agents, so you
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  Speaker 4: violated this law so that that allow us to search
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  Speaker 4: your homes. And you know, basically it's a it's a
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  Speaker 4: tactic of intimidation. So it's to silence dissent anybody who say,
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  Speaker 4: you know, let's have rational uh ties with China. They
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  Speaker 4: will just throw the Pharaoh Act at you and then
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  Speaker 4: to to shut you up. That that's that's what the
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  Speaker 4: purpose is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but very selectively applied also though of.
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  Speaker 3: Course of course, and no one ever applied that to.
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  Speaker 4: To to to all these politicians receiving money from the
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  Speaker 4: Israeli lobby. I mean, that's that's most of the Congress.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, there's a comment here.
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  Speaker 2: This was actually this is something that I was speaking
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  Speaker 2: with a good friend of mine about a few years ago.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's probably a good idea because with these
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  Speaker 2: claims against China, they have been used to sanction these
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  Speaker 2: regions and actually cause job losses for wigers to the
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  Speaker 2: point where factories are afraid to hire wigers because all
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  Speaker 2: it takes is an image of a wiger voluntarily working
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  Speaker 2: in a factory. Uh, to be called a slave laborer.
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  Speaker 2: That was the only thing that was needed, and we've
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  Speaker 2: seen that happen before.
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  Speaker 4: They don't even need an image there. They're they're going
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  Speaker 4: after La boubu right, They're saying la boobo because La
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  Speaker 4: boubou is is made function Jian cotton. So they don't
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  Speaker 4: even have to supply any evidence where the Shinjung cotton
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  Speaker 4: is being planted using wig or slave labor. They just
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  Speaker 4: say Shinjung cotton, Okay, end of the story. Uh, it's
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  Speaker 4: I mean I've been to Shinjung. I've been to the
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  Speaker 4: Shinjung cotton field. It's you know, like like the actual
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  Speaker 4: cotton pickers I met in Shinjong weren't even wig Wars.
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  Speaker 4: They're from like neighboring Gansu province. And at the the
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  Speaker 4: reason she was picking cotton by hand is because there's
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  Speaker 4: some corners where the machine picker. The machine cannot pick cleanly,
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  Speaker 4: so she's like picking around the corners where the machine
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  Speaker 4: would get to wouldn't get to them. But mostly nowadays
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  Speaker 4: they harvest the cotton by by those large industrial combines,
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  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I visited. I visited a family also,
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  Speaker 2: and they had a field. It wasn't a huge field.
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  Speaker 2: It wouldn't have made sense to purchase one of these
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  Speaker 2: machines on their own for the size of their land.
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  Speaker 2: But what they would do is they would the whole
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  Speaker 2: village would get together and hire one to come in
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  Speaker 2: and then they would pay their portion to have their
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  Speaker 2: land they're cotton harvested. And so when Shinjan cotton was banned,
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  Speaker 2: that created a massive impact on those people, those ordinary wagers.
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  Speaker 2: They were literally taking away their opportunities and for some people,
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  Speaker 2: what we were saying before, one of the biggest drivers
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  Speaker 2: of extremism is poverty. That's been studied by the World
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  Speaker 2: Bank and a number of a number of places. So
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  Speaker 2: by bringing economic opportunities to Shinjang. It was a big
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  Speaker 2: part of calming those issues down. And I think that
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  Speaker 2: the policymakers, who know that these are measures that are
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  Speaker 2: going to impoverish wigers, are hoping for that reverse effect,
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  Speaker 2: is hoping that that will bring back the conditions required
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  Speaker 2: to breed extremism again.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's one of the the reason Chinese government
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  Speaker 4: is plowing a lot of investment into developing local tourism
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  Speaker 4: in Shinjong, because you know, that's something that's that cannot
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  Speaker 4: be sanctioned by the United States. You know why I
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  Speaker 4: travel to Shinjong, I see a huge surge in domestic tourism.
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  Speaker 4: You know, like a Chinese tourists from all over China
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  Speaker 4: visit and they they they, I forgot what the number is,
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  Speaker 4: like the hundreds of millions of visits per year. Which
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  Speaker 4: also you know, if more than one hundred million people
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  Speaker 4: visit a place with their cell phones and yet you
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  Speaker 4: cannot produce one single image of like atrocities, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it says something.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it does.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Onto Staying on the Shinjaan topic, this is a
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  Speaker 2: tweet from one of my friends which is really interesting too.
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Luke He is somebody we've been I've been following him,
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  Speaker 2: he's been following me for quite a few years. I
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  Speaker 2: ran in to him in Hinjang for the first time.
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  Speaker 2: I was walking through the market and just yeah, He's like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: are you Daniel. I'm like yeah, He's like, do you
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  Speaker 2: know who I am? I'm like, yeah, yeah, the guy
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  Speaker 2: who just got his PhD.
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  Speaker 1: And then the name came to me afterwards. But he's
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  Speaker 1: living there.
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  Speaker 2: He's living there in Shinjang, and he's on holiday now
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  Speaker 2: because of a Muslim holiday, basically like.
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  Speaker 4: The imagine also twenty nineteen, he actually speak Wigors. He
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  Speaker 4: help us, like go to a Weigors section of Urumchi
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  Speaker 4: and ordered the local food for us. So, you know,
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  Speaker 4: as far as I can tell, he's pretty fluent.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's really immersed himself. But yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 2: just simple little things like this that really show that
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  Speaker 2: it's not what is displayed overseas. This is a really
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  Speaker 2: cool video. It ties into bringing opportunities to Shinjang. This
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  Speaker 2: was a case of an old video from twenty eleven
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  Speaker 2: and she you know, they asked what was her dream,
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  Speaker 2: what was her hope, and she's saying to have better roads.
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  Speaker 2: And then this is the videos in Chinese, but you
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  Speaker 2: can kind of see the infrastructure that has been developed
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  Speaker 2: now and one of the world's longest highway tunnels I
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  Speaker 2: think it was over twenty kilometers or something like that
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  Speaker 2: that now connects all of these regions and brings so
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  Speaker 2: much economic opportunity to them. Let me bring that video
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  Speaker 2: up here.
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  Speaker 3: Oh sorry, sorry, the hater in the commons says, who
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  Speaker 3: is that guy?
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  Speaker 4: Looks gay? Luke actually has a weaker girlfriends. Just for
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  Speaker 4: that clarification anyway, Okay, go ahead, Okay, here we go, Kim.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I visited the Huajan Grand Canyon Bridge Bridge.
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  Speaker 2: I did a documentary on it and the same but
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  Speaker 2: when when something like that opens in those areas, it
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  Speaker 2: brings so much opportunity to the local people. And there's
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  Speaker 2: the scale of the infrastructure is incredible.
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  Speaker 4: It's a it's an engineering marvel. Like I actually flew
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  Speaker 4: in within Shinjung across the Kansan Mountains. The mountain range
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  Speaker 4: is massive. It's massive, and they literally just tunnel it through.
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  Speaker 4: The tunnel it through in order to connect north and
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  Speaker 4: South chin Jung now instead of like taking out like
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  Speaker 4: you know sometimes a day to go around. You just
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  Speaker 4: you know, through jies, through the mountain, through the tunnels,
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  Speaker 4: a couple of hours you're in on the southern side
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  Speaker 4: of Hinjong. It's amazing.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Oh it's a huge difference. Uh yeah, just some of
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: the some of the stuff that they do. When you
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: actually actually look at the terrain, it's like just out
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: of this world. Right now, the most difficult they're they're
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: building the most difficult high speed rail line that they've
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: ever built, and it's going from Chengdu to Lasa. That
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: is incredibly incredibly difficult. And then ten years about ten
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: years later, I think the plan is they're going to
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: do something way more difficult than that, and that is
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: going to be from Lasa to Shinjang. And you know
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: what the terrain is like there, those are unbelievable, the
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: most rugged terrain in the world.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean like the fact that also,
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: I just only China would invest that much money and
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: effort to build infrastructure like that in a remote area
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: like that, because it's the Shinjong Tibet border is very
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: spar populated. So is this just one Tibet border like
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: in in in the logic of Wall Street, they will
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: start question about return on investments, like this is why
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: you get a lot of question about China's building of
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: infrastructures to the to the remote area. They say, well,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: it doesn't make sense. It's there was a wild white
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: elephant project. It's it's over capacity. Why why are you
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: building the road to the middle of nowhere? But there's
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: still people out there, you know, the people out there
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: still needs to be served.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: This is the quite difference from the from the kind
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: of the Wall Street logic where everything needs to be
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: justified by you know, quarterly earning reports.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I mean for infrastructure projects in Canada, I know that
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: we kind of wait until we're at a bottleneck and
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: there's no other choice and it's like, okay, now we've
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: really got to do something about it, and you end
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: up getting what you need twenty years later than when
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: you actually needed it, where as here it's the opposite.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: You know, they build in advance, like the same thing
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: that Grand Canyon Bridge, the Quaijung Grand Canyon Bridge. It's like,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: is that really necessary? But they'll build it first, grow
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: into it because now it's connecting, you know, unon to
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: other areas. To Gwaidzo and maybe they never really get
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: that ROI that would be required from you know, a
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Wall Street mindset to begin with. I mean a lot
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: of people say the same thing about the high speed
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: rail system. A lot of China's high speed rail is
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: really subsidized by the coastal lines. You know, if it
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: was just a pure profit project, only the coastal areas
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: would have high speed rail and then the rest and
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: then the profits from those lines would go directly into
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: executive pockets instead of sharubsidizing the rest of the country
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: system and bring.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: And by the way, that's how a lot of the
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: development in remote places like Shinjung and Tibet are done.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: Chinese government actually pair individual cities. They will pair a
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: rich coastal city to a tongue in Shinjong. You know,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: I was traveled through cash gar And and Tashkurgan and
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: places like that. In Soudar hin Young we saw like
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: you know, this project sponsored by partner city Hanzo or
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Senzen or you know, one of the wealthier East coast cities.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: They will use their revenue and plow into Shinjong and
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: and that helped the development. I mean, this is how
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Chinese government kind of distribute the wealth around the country.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, we have. We're now we're going to go
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: into EV's. Obviously EV's Chinese EV's are under attack globally,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: but there there are people waking up. I'd like this
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: tweet from this guy. Americans are finding out about Chinese
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: cars that they're not allowed to drive, and they're not happy.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Is that freedom here in America when you can't get
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: a product because it's too good. Let's see what he
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: has to say. This is about one and a half minutes.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: I think it's a really good summary of the situation
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: and the feeling that's on the ground.
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: I guess we're not supposed to talk about it. I
• 23:11
  Speaker 9: guess we're not supposed to talk about Chinese cars and
• 23:14
  Speaker 9: how advanced they are compared to American car companies. American
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: car companies look like the Stone Age. Have you seen
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: some of these new Chinese vehicles and how advanced their
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: battery technology and just their technology overall is so far
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: advanced compared to where where we're we're at. I mean,
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: it's a joke. It's literally laughable. And the expense that
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: you have to pay for an American car compared to
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: a Chinese car.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Is like night and day.
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: So how much longer are we going to protect the
• 23:56
  Speaker 9: US automakers that are making garbage compared to China? How
• 24:04
  Speaker 9: long before people go, yeah, I'm not buying into the
• 24:07
  Speaker 9: US car market. I want a car from China. Yeah,
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: they're better, faster, better looking. Go down the categories. There's
• 24:20
  Speaker 9: so much further advanced it's not even funny.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: So what are we doing?
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: Are we just protecting automakers that continue to make cars
• 24:28
  Speaker 9: we don't want? Is that freedom? I'm just asking? Is
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: that freedom here in America? When you can't get a
• 24:37
  Speaker 9: product because it's too good?
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Make it makes sense?
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Hungry about v This is why they had to fear
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: mongering about Chinese ev being like spy vehicles, How they're
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: gonna spy on your every move? Like why why would
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: they even care about that? Like haha, I have a
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: Chinese ev I body in Dunesia. I don't care, dude,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: even if there spy on me, I don't care. You know,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: they can't. They can't spy. They can map out all
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: the route I dropped my kids at school. You know,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: why do I care?
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows? Maybe you'll get like updates too. You say, Carl,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I don't think you need that dunkin Donuts today. You know,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: you gotta get back on your surfboard, go to the beach.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's it. That's that's gotten too close to home.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: That's where I make my stand.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, then then you're done with the Chinese EV's. I
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: actually have some bonus items that I just loaded up
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: this morning because it's it's it fits in perfectly with
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: this EV thing. So, like you said, there's gonna be
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: this demonization campaign against uh Chinese EV's because you can't,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, they just can't compete with them. So there
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: was this one here where there was an EV on
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: fire from Real Insight. They post basically a bunch of
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: uh of anti China content. Uh, that's what they're dedicated to.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: And so they showed this. I didn't load up the video,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: but it's a it's a vehicle on fire, and they're like,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: look at this, another another EV catches fire. Two EV's
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: in a single day. There are fifty million, somewhere around
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: fifty million evs on the road in China. This should
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: be really, this should be okay, Like I mean, if
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: you if you found two videos that's it of EV's exploding.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: That would be great, that would be like, do you
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: want to add something before we continue, because I got
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: another point, go ahead.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: First, Yeah, because Chinese EV is actually one of them,
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: say for evs, because because of that type of battery
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: they use. You know, Chinese EV's mostly use LFP batteries.
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: They they they because LFP batteries cheat cheaper, but it's
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: also less uh less combustible than regular the batteries. So
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: you know, Tesla mister Elon Musk is actually trying to
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: build l f P batteries in America to use in
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: his Tesla because because of you know, the Chinese technology
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: had made it safer and cheaper to to to to
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: manufacture car batteries. And and actually I saw the same tweet.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: I almost because just a couple of days ago, I
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: saw another video on Doling the Chinese uh TikTok of
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: a Lamborghini on fire. So I almost just hunted on
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: that video and quoted.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Oh look look.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Look, look, look at the Lambo on fire.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: You know, it was the Lambo on fire that was
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the one that was the one, the one that they
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: couldn't even find a video of a Chinese EV on
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: fire to to to basically illustrate that that's the one
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: the lambo. And so even though it would be reasonable
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: to find a few Chinese EV's on fire, you know,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: fifty million evs on the road in China, and according
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: to the statistics, combustion engine vehicles catch fire more often
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: than EV's do. But even with that in mind, they
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: couldn't find an actual Chinese EV video. And when they
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: started getting ratioed in the comments and people pointed it out,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: they closed the comments section, they closed it off. They
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: didn't issue a correction. And that goes to show you
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of these accounts there ideologically agenda driven. They're not,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: you know, accounts seeking to bring the truth about China
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: to people. They have one mission and one mission only.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: And speaking of US high end sports cars, Ferrari, I
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: like this tweet because, yeah, Ferrari is coming out with
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: this really ugly electric EV, even if you don't think
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: it's ugly. I like how Chris points out here a
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: key point. People are choosing Chinese EV's because they have
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: superior tech in it. They have all kinds of features
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: that they're interested in, and so to come out with
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: an EV Ferrari and expect people to buy it with
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: just just because it has a brand name on it,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: brand logo on it. I don't think it's going to work.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: When you drive around all of the high end communities here,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: you used to see all. I mean, the first time
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: I ever saw a what was it, the Lamborghini suv
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: when it came out, pretty much as soon as it
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: came out, I saw a bunch of them driving out
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: of really high end estates. Now all of these estates,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: they're pretty much dominated by Chinese EV's. All of the
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: rich people are buying Chinese to EV's now. So to
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: just get this you know, toy car, toy looking car
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: and expect people to buy it just because it has
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: the Ferrari logo on it, I just I don't think
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: it's going to work. And I think this guy made
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: a good point.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: You want add to that, But but even for the
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: people in the West, that's hating. And I don't worry
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: that that that that car wasn't made for you, that
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: that car was specifically a Chinese edition. It's made for
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: the Chinese local market. Now, that's what a lot of
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: the automakers do now, like Audi also have a have
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: an Audi car just for China, because China is the
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: world's largest auto market. But they literally China double the
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: Chinese car market is double the size of American car market.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: You know, the United States been the second largest car
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: market in the world. So so all the car companies
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: that know, if they do you think, if they can
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: make it in China, then they can make it in
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: the world. They have to prove themselves in China first.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the growth of the car market since I arrived
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: in China in two thousand and eight has just been extraordinary.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: So when you get these older apartment complexes, uh with
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: you know, cheaper apartments, their parking garages underneath were not
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: not even designed for every family to have one vehicle,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: let alone families having multiple multiple vehicles. Now, so the
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: new real estate developments they take that into consideration. But
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: parking is a real issue for some of these older
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: ones because it, I mean, it grew beyond anybody's expectations.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I actually I didn't send it to you, but
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: I saw a video on doing so the charging the
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: public charging companies in order to prevent the gas cars
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: from occupying the spot where the car charger is. So
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: they now have a like a AI robot that can
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: recognize whether a car is the electric car a gas car,
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: and if they saw a gas card, the machine hand
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: will push out to push out to hold that spot,
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: you know, to flop from going to that spot. I
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: thought that was hilarious.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: You know what, I'm gonna jump ahead. This wasn't until
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: later on, but because we're talking about parking spaces, you
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: sent this to me. I'm not exactly sure what's going
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: on here, but you want to comment on this one here?
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: Ah, okay, So somebody sent a picture of a parking
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: space with a number, you know, you see six to
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: three uh six' five and then instead of sixty, four
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: it goes six to three point. One so they call
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: it a parking lot With chinese. Characteristics what they're implying
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: Is china sensors is so crazy they will not allow
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: you to use the numbers that the combination six 'y,
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: four which is usually associated with The june, fourth which
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: is the last day of The Kamin square, protests, right
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: and so that that was the. Implication but what people
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: actually find out is, that's, well that's actually not a
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: parking lot in Mainland. China parking lot In. Taiwan and
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: the reason the number four is avoided is because number
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: four In chinese it's homophone for. Death so for like superstitious,
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: reasons you, know you will. Go you were in some
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: hotels they don't have like the fourth floor or the
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: fourteenth or the fourteenth, floor they will skip a. Floor
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: so this is what's actually going. Out but they thought
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: this was an example Of chinese, censorship and SO i
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: actually quote tweeted and, like, well thank you for recognizing
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: That taiwan is part Of, china because that's A taiwan parking.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Lot right, right right?
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Right, okay well jump back now to what do we got? Here,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: oh some some interesting, news some good news for people
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: traveling To. China We chat pay is going to be
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: connected With, PayPal and it's going to be a lot
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: easier For internet visitors to use their own payment services In.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: China THAT'S i, mean you know what visa free entry
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: for so many countries you're hoping to bring people. In this,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: was to be, honest they were a bit slow on.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: This they should have done something like this. Sooner they're
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: letting all kinds of people in while they're having all
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: of these payment. Challenges So this is some some good overdue.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: News usually they're ahead of the curb with, stuff but
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: this one it's late but still.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: Great, yeah they have. Done they apparently have you, know
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: been taking some feedback because another thing they did is
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: In Beijing, metro now you can directly Use visa or
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: MasterCard to swipe into the into the metro. Station remember
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: the time you have to show me In tonchin how
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: to use the Wich at mini App metro to generate
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: THE qr code to. Scan AND i, mean like it's very,
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: simple but for someone who have not been To china
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: for a, while like, myself BECAUSE i was the last
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: TIME i used A chinese metro system was in like twenty,
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: nineteen so so LIKE i was still using the old.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: WAY i would go to a tickety, machine find out
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: my destination and find out how much it costs and
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: then scan MY ali pay to spit on a plastic
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: car with that amount of, value AND i use a
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: plastic car to scan.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: IT i was so proud of.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: MYSELF i was showing my, WIFE i was showing my
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: friend how to do, it and then you're, Like, carl come, on,
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: man what are you. Doing we lived in twenty twenty.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Five, yeah The lauai and it got you where.
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: All?
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Right we got something From. JAPAN i don't know if
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: you saw. This this is where people were flipping out
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: at This chinese couple for doing this dance in front of.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Lawson and we'll watch the video FOR i, mean it's
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: really cute and it's just there was such a miserable
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: response to it In. Japan let me, see where's the actual.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Video here we, go.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: And this is obviously a Jack nobile couple From china
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: who went To japan to pay homage to like the
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: Iconic Fuji mountain in the.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Vacues In japanese, music and.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: And acting out like a scene from an, anime right
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: like like like this. Is and and yet the guy
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: who was complaining about them, say, oh you, know look
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: at all these in Creepy chinese people blocking the interest
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: to the uh, to to the convenience, market which uh
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: The the poster replies, that, know we we actually picked at.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Time at five o'clock in the morning when there's no one, around.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: And and and but but but like, no, no, no, no
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: like that that was not good. Enough and AND i
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: even made the. TWEET i, said, look you know A
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Chinese japan nofile couple doing free advertisement For japan and
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: For japanese, tourism and this is A japanese like a
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: right winger response and to one of the reply to
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: mine is oh, yeah but if they're it's A, chinese you,
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: know their video is goind of promoted to More, chinese
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: so that will lead to More chinese coming To. Japan
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: we don't want. That i'm, like, oh, well thank you
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: for being. Honest you know the thing you real issue
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: is With chinese. People you, know it's not not necessarily
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: with what they.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Did yeah, yeah but you, KNOW i mean they Are
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: it goes beyond that, Though like it's it's such a
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Like i've been To japan a couple of times AND
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: i love visiting, there but there's just something let's see
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: what we got, here let's go through because There's i've
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: got another example where they went off on a Local, also.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Is there an image showing up for?
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: You?
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, YEAH i never. Did, never it never shows up for.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Me oh there we.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Go oh yeah.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah so Actually i'm going to come back To japan
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: in a. Second but this was a perfect opportunity to, say,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: hey you want to come and, dance come and dance In.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: China you, know we don't have a problem with, this
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: and let me, see this is kind of cool.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Too the, Yeah.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Like the response In china is like people are looking
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: on you, know recording them and, saying, oh that's so.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Cool foreigners are coming and joining our square. Dancing there's
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: such a joy to. It but what you said is
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: it doesn't extend only To chinese because there was another
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: one where there was let me see here at THIRTY
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: i don't know if you saw, it saw this one? Y? Yeah,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah so she was. Copying she was actually copying a
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: dance From. Indonesia that kid that's on the front of the.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Boat have you seen that, before the viral. Kid so
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: she was, copying just having just having a great. TIME
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: i Think i've got it. Here, Yeah and then she
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: was forced to apologize for. It she was forced To
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: the image on the right is her issuing a formal
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: apology To japanese society for doing this on camera or
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: jumping on the bed or something like. That, like what
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: is what is going?
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: ON i, mean She's, japanese she and her friends Are. Japanese, yeah, yeah, Yeah.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Like is it is it that you, KNOW i know
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: WHEN i go, there there's something there's something really special
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: about the structure and how you, know everybody's following you,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: know all the, rules and it's quiet on the, subway
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: and it's really interesting to, experience and it's, like you, know,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: OKAY i could see how you, could you, know how
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: some people could live in a society like this and
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: get used to. It but you, KNOW i would never
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: want to live somewhere like that where everybody you're always being,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: watched you're always being. Judged you need to you, know
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: you can't act, out you can't, be you can't show
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: any you, know outward, emotion and you've always got to.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: BE i REMEMBER i rented A i rented an airbnb In.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Tokyo it was actually FROM i think it. Was they
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: were originally From, guanmbong but they moved To japan like
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: twenty years, ago and they were, like you, know you
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: got to sort your garbage and put it, out and that's,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: fine that's you gotta you gotta empty the plastic bottles
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: and do everything like. That so this is really, responsible
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: but make sure you don't mess up because people are,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: watching people are watching. You you, know the neighbors will
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: be watching you and it's Like, jesus you, know, LIKE
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: i don't, know this.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: Is just light night like THIS i. DID i did
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: saw Some japanese vloggers who said they felt free when
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: they were In china and felt much freer when they're In.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: China it's, true you, know like we're not gonna judge
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: you if you're just laughing or having fun as long
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: as you are not bothering other, people you, know like,
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: nobody nobody is gonna judge you for. That.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, No it's like it's it's like a militaristic
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: level of rule following and making sure that you don't
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: mess up on. ANYTHING i just, YEAH i don't. KNOW
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: i mean maybe if you get used to, it you're
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: fine with, that BUT i just, it's, yeah it's not for.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: Me.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: NOW AI ai data centers that's gonna be that's going
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: to be a big thing that The west is going
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: to want to attack, TOO ai in, general because they
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: really want to own this, space they really want to
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: monetize this, space and in the face of you, Know
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: china in many cases taking a more open source approach to,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: this it's a really really big threat to corporate interests
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: in The. West, now one of the main things that's
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: coming up to is also to not only Attacking, china
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: but attacking anyone in their own countries who are trying
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: to address or want certain issues. Addressed So china is
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: being used once again as the, boogeyman as we mentioned
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: last week, too to attack even their own. People, so you,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Know pauline says, that, yeah THE ccp has launched an
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: all out war Against AMERICAN. Ai the divide we're seeing
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: in this country is largely driven by bots and paid
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: actors violating this.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Far you, know.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Either, way this, woman this woman is one of the
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: receivers of The israeli. Money she's one of the biggest
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: supporter Of israel In. Congress and there, again like what
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: you point, out it's very. Selective it's like they're as
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: it's always they're always pointing finger At. CHINA i guess
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: that every act accusation is a. Confession you, know a.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Lot she, votes she votes for every every, funding votes
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: yes to any funding to Israel. I actually responded with
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: something along the lines THAT i, SAID i using the
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: same language as the divide we're seeing in your country
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: is largely driven by people beginning to wake up to
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: politicians like you who take money FROM apex then spend
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: your time introducing The stand With Israel act and voting
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: yes on Every israel aid package while you do nothing
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: for your own country that's in, decay other than scapegoading
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: your issues Onto china with no evidence, whatsoever and also
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: blaming anybody in their society who are raising issues ABOUT,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: ai you, know trying to say that they're somehow associated
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: With china and that that's Something, Uh kevin O'Leary has
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: jumped onto. Us that's that's one that you you brought. Up,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah kevin O'Leary claims That china is funding protests against
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: his Utah ai data center with hundreds of millions of.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Dollars who would want us to stop having compute capacity
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: to DEVELOP?
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Ai it's only. One It's, china.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: Because people otherwisely would not have a problem with data
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: center in their. Neighborhood and and and and that this
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: is the, thing you, know look at where those data center.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Built they're never building rich people's. Areas, yeah. Never and
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: if other people now rich people complaining about data centerview
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: building in their, neighborhood drawing down electric electricity for their
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: grid raising the electricity price for, Them then it must Be.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: China that's only. Explanation it has to be like.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: They're they're DELIBERATELY i, mean they're almost being, facetious like
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: they they really can't imagine why some people in the
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: general public would be against, This like, you you have
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: to be you have to be deliberately. Ignorant you have
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: to be deliberately ignoring that to to to say, THAT
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: i really can't think of any other possibility in the
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: world other than the fact That china must be funding this.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: Dissent and and Also Kevin, leary he's always posing himself
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: as a Big american patriot against you, know the big Bad.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: China He's.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Canadian canadian, dude It's. Canadian what what that? Happened what are?
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: You what are you Possiblaying americans? For?
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah yeah.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah he did another thing where he was saying he
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: mentioned a specific campaign where he, says this campaign is
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: actually run By china and you, know unless unless somebody
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: can come forward In american tell. Us and then there
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: was the two two, Women these two women who are behind,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: it and they're doing they did a reaction.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Video they're, like, uh it's.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Two white women For. Utah yeah, too but.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: You really can't imagine same THING i was, saying you
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: really can't imagine why would we would be against? This
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: and they did a really good. Takedown BUT i mean
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: even all of the lessons growing, up LIKE i like
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: this reply saying that, oh lorax must have been A chinese. Agent,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: also like you, know like some of the replies are,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: great like people, were people grew up understanding that these you,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: know massively polluting industries are a bad. THING i, mean
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: you don't need the lorax to tell you that, Either
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: but this is a value that has been held by
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: people in these countries for a very very long. TIME i,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: mean it'll be it'll be interesting to see HOW i
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: mean this is a little bit off, topic still related
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: How china handles it, too because, yeah from what we're,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: seeing these data centers really pollute quite a. LOT i know.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: That so from experience of opening a brewery In, china
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: the environmental requirements are. Immense one of the big just
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: for a brewery which you're you, know you're you're piping
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: out natural stuff like you, know hops and yeast and
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: stuff like, that like all natural. Stuff they're not, like,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: well there are some cleaning chemicals and stuff like that
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: you use on the tanks which are quite. Harsh but
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: their requirement is that you have your own on site
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: sewage treatment and a filtration system before you pipe it
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: out to the general sewage, system which will then get filtered.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: Again that by far was one of the largest expenses
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: in opening a. Brewery and SO i would imagine that
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: there's going to be so many controls in place also
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: for data centers without even people even asking about. It
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: it doesn't look like that is a priority in THE,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: us especially you, KNOW i guess under a president Like
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: trump who's going all out on an attack against anything you,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: know green. Tech but that leads to the obvious result
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: that people are going to get upset and concerned about,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: this and once again people are just trying to scapegoat
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: it Onto.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: China.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah and also another problem Is, china like these data
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: center are very power. Hungry they're they're very energy. Intensive
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: china actually build a lot of power, generation so they
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: have extra power to, spare whereas in The United, states
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: THE us power generation has been essentially flat for the
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: last twenty. Years so what they're doing is that they're
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: power centers are eating into the public. Utility they're eating
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: into like the civilian use of. Electricity that's what's driving
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: the electricity rate up for. EVERYBODY i, mean if you
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: complain about, that you must be A.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Chinese, uh you must be A chinese influence. Agent it must.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Be infuriating to, be you, know a concerned citizen in
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: The west now knowing that you're pretty much just going
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: to be labeled A russian, Agent chinese agent working For,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: iran no matter, what no matter, what as soon as
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: you bring up some sort of an, issue the answer
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: now is to just, scapegoat scapegoat someone, else not only
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: from business, people but from your own politicians. Also you,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: know we saw it throughout The gaza. Issue we saw
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: through every single. Issue it's it's really. Remarkable we will
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: move on to something that is From i'll let you
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: take it over from. Here this is from one of
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: your old. Friends let's see.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: What else is going on.
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: Here so this Is Noah. Smith you, Know america's number
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: one public. Intellectual so you know he has always been
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: on This china bad. Rant and you know, that you,
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: know just the normal talking. POINT a lot of The
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: Noah smith's points actually not. Original he's just parroting the
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: same mainstream talking points About china because he has actually
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: never been to Mainland. China he admitted to this to,
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: me uh five years ago in a public debate which
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: is still on my YouTube. Channel he, said he has
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: never been to Mainland, china yet he is writing prolifically
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: On china and How china is. Bad you, know somehow
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: this guy has no connection To, china do not speak the. Language,
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: uh you, know never been. There it's somehow, pontificating you,
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: know prolifically In american public space About. China and when
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: you challenge, him he will block, you you, know like
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: after his after his debate debac you, know AFTER i handed,
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: him handed him his ass and in that debate he
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: blocked in me as. Well and then can you bring
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: that tweet? Again he? Said his tweets so so this
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: is why he he give me honorable. Mention in the
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: following revi he, Said china inspiring dipshit Like Carl Za
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: lego And Simon young to come into My twitter feed
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: and say thumb ship, imaginable very bad like, dude after
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: he blocked, ME i have you, KNOW i have not
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: been in his fucking common section, forever SO i don't
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: know what he's talking, about and, uh, yeah it's uh
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: it's it's. People people should should go if you if
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: you haven't seen, it go check out my debate With
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: No smiths five years. Ago so obviously he's still buttered about.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: It you, know it's it's not just his takes On,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: china it's his takes on anywhere in the world are
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: just incredibly. Ridiculous and and yet he and he gets
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: ratioed all the. Time people are always calling him. Out
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: he does a lot of, blocking which leads me to
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: believe and it's amazing that he can he can amass
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: such a big following with such terrible. Takes but you,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: know there is a strategy that people use where they
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: deliberately rage bait for, engagement and they become really popular doing.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: That like they deliberately put out the most you, know
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: ridiculous Off but he's not even deliberately rage, Baiting like
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: he just his his, genuine honest takes drive people into
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: a rage because it's just so, stupid and he he blocks,
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: them otherwise he would keep. Them he's, like this is
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: exactly WHAT i. Want i'm rage baiting. People, no he
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: really believes the stuff that he, says and it's it's,
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: remarkable it's a it's an unintentional rage. Baiter, yeah, yeah
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: we Have, okay this is one that you. Shared, also
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: why don't you go into this for?
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: Us?
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: Okay so this is.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Uh, this this is a.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: Response to a response and and originally that it's it's
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: a it's it's a people who again this is Like
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: china bad uh in In this is this again The
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: china Bad china incoming collapse Of china narrative has been
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: a wrong for a long, time you, know more than
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: two decades up by this. Point so first the first Uh,
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: twitter the oblom Of bukowski said This klong has been
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: seeing the same song for the last twenty. Years back
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: in two thousand and, four he was Predicting china was
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: going to collapse in the next two, decades and he
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: posted the. Receipt and Then, angelica who is actually From,
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: taiwan she experienced a sort of a road To damascus moment,
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: Recently like she used to be a big supporter of
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: The taiwan's government under Taiing wan And, bye but she
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: has now quite changed her political stance and she's for
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: a political solution to The taiwan. Issue and so she,
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: replied she, SAID i didn't know about these. Predictions she
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: gave four possible scenarios. Peaceful so this is the prediction
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: back on two thousand Oh, this by the, way this
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: is by none other Than New York times. Columnist, uh
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: this is A Nicholas. Christophe he actually has been posted
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: In china for for a decade before he went back TO.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: Us but back in two thousand and, four he was
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: also posting the four scenario For china peace trans peaceful
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: transansition to, democracy military coup number, three World war, three
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: but like a war Which United states basically Over taiwan
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: for civil war and. Chaos it's completely. Ridiculous but this
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: is kind of the standard liberal talking point About. China
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: So Noah smith is actually not a stand, alone you,
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: know like a fringe talking. Point this is a standard
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: mainstream media talking points About. China this is from like
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: the Main New York times columnist reporter was based In
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: china for decades and he was giving all these. Prognoses
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: so so, So Gordon chen is not an out, Liar,
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: Guys Gordon chen is only amazing for his consistency all
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: throughout the. Years but this is what these people have
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: been talking about all this.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Time, Yeah Gordon chang is like a caricature of the
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: whole of the whole Anti china. Industry he's like one
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: of the more extreme and desperate, ones and the desperation
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: is a little bit too obvious with. Him, yeah now onto.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: THIS i found this really interesting.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Too so Somebody i'm mutually connected with for a while,
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: saying you, know having lived In china for twenty plus,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: years and watch them gain competence and then utter domination
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: over so many aspects of, tech, design, entertainment, finance et.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: Cetera and then look at how poorly they manage external,
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: perceptions call it pr, propaganda, whatever and you realize they
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: aren't even trying to convince the world of outside of
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: how great things are. Here, meanwhile the U us dedicates
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: one point three BILLION us dollars to convincing people how
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Terrible china. Is ALL i know is that it's going
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: to be a very rude awakening for a lot of
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: people when the curtains fully, open and we're already seeing
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: that to a large, degree where people are coming and you,
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: know you, KNOW i show speed shows up and has
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: an amazing time here and and people are melting. DOWN
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: i mean there are some, people obviously the younger generation
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: that don't don't have a lifetime of this, propaganda are
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: a little bit. Easy it's a little bit easier for
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: them to, say oh, wow it's not Like i'm even
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: told you, know.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: Even trump's daughter in law she just, said she, said,
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: Wow china is, amazing and it's nothing like what they
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: have told us in media over. HERE i mean that
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: is just a big, admission like everybody realized once they
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: come To china they have been fed. Propaganda.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah and it's gonna be LIKE i, said it's
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: gonna be easier with the younger. Generation BUT i feel
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: like for a lot of older people who it's almost
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: been at in, stone like this is a lifelong understanding of,
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: theirs and it's not going to be, easy, uh for
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: them to. Change but we're seeing change with the new.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Generation and for everybody, else it's just a rude awakening
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: that there's so much going on that contradicts their entire world.
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: Understanding What american mckith that actually ties into that Tweet
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: Fong Arnold berchuan about the about The french politicians being.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: CHALLENGED i don't know if you have that tweet. LINEUP i.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: Do that is the one where They're is that the
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: one that they're asked to, to, uh.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: Name three Living chinese, People name three Living chinese? People?
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah so yeah they. Could they're these
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: commentators that comment On. China that's one of their main main. Focuses.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: Uh and let's look at the video there, there it's
• 57:55
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  Speaker 4: uh uh investor And roman helmet guy who post ridiculous
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah and then they say you it's because we
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• 1:05:08
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• 1:06:02
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  Speaker 2: McGee's you know posts that. There you, know people are
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: in for a rude, awakening and that rude awakening is
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  Speaker 2: manifesting itself in in really bizarre ways for people who
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  Speaker 2: yeah AND i think.
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  Speaker 4: A part of it that is Because china is a Non,
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  Speaker 4: It those people are not comfortable with. That they're definitely
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  Speaker 4: Nation that's what triggered them so.
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  Speaker 2: Much, yeah, YEAH i mean it's the Whole you, know
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  Speaker 4: Okay so this is again the The American american commander
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• 1:07:59
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• 1:08:39
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• 1:08:43
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  Speaker 11: They've been very good. PARTNERS i believe that we have
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  Speaker 11: we are working with our allies all Over europe to
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  Speaker 4: so we took it from, them which is again very
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  Speaker 4: bogus Because United states they still have The afghan. Money you,
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  Speaker 4: know there's a large amount of money that belonged To
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  Speaker 4: afghanistan That United states has with held to this. Day
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  Speaker 4: yeah there's so many, levels but this should be an
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  Speaker 4: alarm bell for all these cryptal. Bros you you will
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  Speaker 2: this as a, proposal is to take the money that
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  Speaker 2: YEAH i, mean if these are the kinds of things
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  Speaker 2: way to do, it but you would need the keys
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  Speaker 2: in order to do.
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  Speaker 1: That but however it, Is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah they when he said this, is, yeah taken directly
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  Speaker 2: those assets were funded by The iranian, people and therefore
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  Speaker 2: they are rightfully taking it. Away and Once america has,
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  Speaker 2: IT i, mean the The iranian people are not going
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: to see it. Anymore, yeah that's he's he's admitting that absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: Directly and this is why you, know like yourang has
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  Speaker 4: B United states was at one point threatening to Sanction
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  Speaker 4: that you know that that would just be a disaster
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  Speaker 4: for the international. Finance but, yeah that that just means
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  Speaker 4: more people will find ways to move off the, dollar,
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  Speaker 4: right AND i think you will, strengthen you, know the
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• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: us will be too chicken shit to sanction The chinese
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  Speaker 2: Right just to clarifying, this WHEN i WHEN i mentioned
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  Speaker 2: they needed the, keys that is if they have it
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  Speaker 2: in cold. Storage but, yeah if they had it on
• 1:13:27
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  Speaker 2: Easier as they say in, crypto not your, keys not your.
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  Speaker 2: Crypto SO i don't know how they did, it but,
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  Speaker 2: yeah it's definitely a wake up call for for for. Everybody,
• 1:13:42
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  Speaker 1: Hold, on let Me Lex freed and oh, okay.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so so this has been going viral because Apparently
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  Speaker 4: Lex freeman and this other blogger they've been hitchhag hiking
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  Speaker 1: Look, yeah let's.
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  Speaker 8: visitors into the, country more travelers are sharing their experiences
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 8: through social, media and This.
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  Speaker 5: China travel continues. Trending.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 10: Online moments like this are.
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  Speaker 5: Helping people around the world to see a different side Of,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 5: china not through headlines or, stereotypes but through everyday, people
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: real encounters and genuine human.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 10: Connection well.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 12: Sovertica le Meu Yosha, kahn.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: Tell, me why see. This this is the kind of
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 4: things THAT i think prompted That Wall Street Journal So
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: japan report to post that fear mongering article about how
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 4: The chinese attitude towards foreigners are hardening and how they're
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: they're now like being. Hostile there's a hostile reaction to
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 4: foreigners coming Into, china which couldn't be further from the.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: Truth LIKE i would say this truck driver's center action
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 4: with The Lex freeman And Michael connie is more typical
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: of an interaction between A, chinese like Ordinary chinese people
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: and a foreigner tourist traveling in the. Country, yeah.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: You, know hitchhiking isn't really a thing In, China SO
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: i interviewed somebody except for The tibetan. Regions it's very
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: very common For tibetans in The tibetan regions to hitchhike all.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: Over but, YEAH i interviewed someone Before. Courtney she is
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: hitchhiking From china TO i think it Was South. Africa
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: she she posts her stuff On. INSTAGRAM i think it's
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: under Hitchhiker courtney or something like, That AND i dropped
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: her off at a highway entrance, place AND i just
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: felt awkward about the whole. Thing i'm, like this is,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: weird this isn't something you usually. Do but somebody picked
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: her up really. Quickly so even though that isn't really
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: part of culture In, china there's always somebody here willing to.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: Help and when you have these, interactions you have that
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: that that. Warmth you feel that warmth from the people.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: Here you hear their life stories and things like. THAT
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: i like that comment that we just got saying thank
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: goodness for these translation, apps because you, know it's not
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: possible to you, know go through THE bbc as the
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: median who's going to miss deliberately. Mistranslated but you're gonna
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: see more and more experiences like this where people realize
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: What china's actually. About so you, know it's. Great, yeah
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: we have.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: The americans actually missing out because they're one of the
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: few countries among the advanced economy that still do not
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: have thirty days a visa free To. China but they
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: can't travel To china on transit visa for ten days you, know.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: For you, know, yeah or just getting get a proper.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: Visa get a proper visa Because china And United, states
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: they have a visa agreement that allow you to get
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: a ten year multiple entry. Visa then you are set
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: for next ten. Years that's WHAT i.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: Have, yeah, yeah, NO i, mean it's it's, such it's
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: there's so much here and it's so safe In. China
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: also to the point where when when you've been, here
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: like me for eighteen, years when we travel, OVERSEAS i
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: have to remind myself how to you, know watch your back,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Again like you take these things for. Granted you can
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: walk around with a pile of cash in your hand,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: here nothing's going to. HAPPEN i can leave my keys
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: in my motorbike overnight and it's still going to be
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: there WHEN i get, back can leave my you, know doors,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: unlocked and, honestly, yeah it's WHEN i go Back i've
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: got to untrain myself from these you, KNOW i wouldn't
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: call them bad. Habits it's nice to not have to
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: worry about this. Stuff but, yeah for that and so
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: many other, reasons just the ease of getting around, now
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: the payment situation was obviously getting a little bit. Easier
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: it's a no, brainer like this, is AND i think
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: it is going to become a top destination for a
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: lot of. People you, know there used to be this
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: fascination With japan AND i get, it understand.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Why but with more and more of.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: This you, Know japanese people, exploding or at least a
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: certain segment of, society particularly the right wing, side exploding.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: It even their own people for dancing in a. Video you,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: Know china's starting to look a lot more. Attractive we
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: got another one from you. Here you go, ahead break
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: this one down for us or your.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: Reaction so this is Just Donald trump's choose a social,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: post and he keeps on, post you, know after all
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: this time that he can't come back to The United,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: states keep on posting photos of himself with SHE i,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: mean this is Just trump trying to pop himself up
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: as a world. Leader, like, look you KNOW i have
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 4: been treated with, respect great Respecting. China they respect. Me
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: they really Think i'm a great world. Leader, yeah because
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: he doesn't have much else going for it at the.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 4: Moment you, know he's the whole straight musituation is a,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: mass and he want, to you, know move as far
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: as away possible from The epstein. File so you know
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 4: what can he? Post, okay my picture Was chiji. Ping
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 4: that makes me look.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: Dignified, Right, yeah he's so. Addicted he is so addicted
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: to his image and propping himself. Up that is just
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: so TA i mean that that response to when he's
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: in this garden with these ancient, trees With Xijin, ping
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: and his question isn't about the history of the, place
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: the type of, tree or you, know how it's, maintained
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: or you know how interesting it, is like how many
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: dynasties these trees must have. Seen it's how many other world.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: Leaders have been?
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: Here AM i AM i?
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: Special like.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Like so, tacky.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: You, know but it's the new.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: Norm like you, know if that just came out of
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: nowhere and it was an isolated an, incident people would
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: be talking about it a lot. More they'd be, like
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: oh my, god that is so. Tacky but it's just
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: like that's the new. Normal that's the new. Normal that's
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: that's that's uh who he.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: Is but he also shows kind of the growth in
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: stature Of, china like like he would not have done,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: this uh nine years ago when he first Visited, china
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: and and just just in those nine Years china has
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: advanced so much and and and grow so. Much now
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: he has to Treat china with. Respect you, know he
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: was on his best behavior when he was over, there
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: and you know that that WILL i think that will
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: also become a new. Norm. Uh you, know people will
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: finally Realize china is not to be trifle with And
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: china is a great. Power and for the people that
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: don't know three more who can't name three Living chinese,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: people while it is on you to find out because
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: you otherwise you will be missing.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: Out, well that is a really good point that it
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: is something worth bragging about, now you, know to get
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: a warm reception From china is something worth bragging, about
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: uh to to to your people on the global, stage
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: which wouldn't have been the case. Before like you, said
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: we got another one that you have brought up.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: Here i'll let, You i'll let you go ahead with this.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: ONE i think this is when you.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: Shared isn't it because what every Other chinese had to do?
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 5: With?
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: Oh okay? Okay so this this is, again you, know
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: the Typical western talking points, like isn't it because every
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: Other chinese person has to do with What chijiping? Wants,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: again this is the assumption that Every chinese is just
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: like an autonomous autonoma tongue a. Robot you, know they
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: can't have free will of their own, opinion so you've
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: got a sense that other people don't really matter because
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: they don't have any, say any independent power agency of their.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: Own this is a very Common western mindset when it
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 4: comes to The. China and this guy is responding to
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 4: the fact that you know that Those french uh a
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 4: big big poundits couldn't name more than you, know couldn't
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: name three Living chinese people other Than Chiji. Ping and
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 4: the person below him agree with him like, THIS i
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: want to Name Jack. Mand remember he was disappeared by the.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: Regime has he been returned to life in one? PIECE
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: i mean, like, look you people really Think Jack mand
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: just just, died just just.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: DISAPPEAR i mean like this is the thing that this.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 4: Is people have so mental knowledge About, china yet they
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 4: speak so Confidently.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: China, Right this next one is a, remarkable remarkable. Accusation
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: here we, go it's probably showing up for, you. Right
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: it takes a, while, yes so, yes you go, ahead
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: because it's not showing up for me.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: Yet you can, well it's a it's a it's a
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: it's your your your Palanteer Ceo Alex, karp you, know
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: everybody's favorite, guy and he, said in The, west we
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: actually care when human. Dies you, Know china Or russia
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: Or russia last seven hundred thousand people In, ukraine they don't.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: Care we. Don't volunteer is telling you that they care
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: about human.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: Life let's hear let's hear him say it. Too i've
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: got the.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: Video let's hear him say it and then and then
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: dig into a deeper because that really is something, coming
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: especially coming from.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 6: HIM i think the.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 13: Most important question to ask is what is the technology
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 13: we have that we haven't implemented? Yesterday, WELL, AI ai
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 13: target system software that actually, works HYBRID, ai you, know,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 13: uh products that are. SMALLER i, mean we're all talking
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 13: about similar spectrum of like taking the human out of
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 13: the loops so the human isn't murdered by like we
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 13: have a problem in The. West we actually care when humans.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 13: Die so we have to if we're Fighting, China russia
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 13: that you, Know russia's was seven hundred thousand people In,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 13: ukraine they don't, care you, know like and none of
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 13: these countries actually. Care so how do we make the
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 13: battlefield more like? Ours but we don't? Care if we
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 13: lose a piece of. Steel we do care if we
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 13: lose a.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: Human, so first of, all he's talking ABOUT ai. Weapons
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: noticed he wasn't talking about ANY. Ai he's talking about
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 4: SPECIFICALLY ai WEAPON ai. Targeting and he, said this is
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: because we care about human. Life and of course he's really,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: saying like we care About american. Life we don't care
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: about other people's life that we're going to kill because
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: we don't see them as. Humans that's what he's really.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: Saying but then again he, said you Know, china obviously
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: they don't. Care he's talking About china THAT i haven't
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 4: thought a war in the last forty. Years you, Know, China,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: china which has not been in a. War For, again
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 4: a lot of other people will, say, oh that's because
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 4: ce these Shows china doesn't have combat experience among Like.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: America, well maybe because they do value human.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: Life Maybe, china that's why they haven't fought a war
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: in the last forty years compared to The United. STATES i,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: mean For american and especially A ceo Of pollant here
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: to claim that they care more about human, LIVES i,
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 4: mean this is JUST i don't know what kind of
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 4: parody or satires this is.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: Anymore, yeah the amount of money That america pours into
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: weapons development and, products and then you look At, china
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: who's pouring money into infrastructure, building infrastructure projects that wouldn't
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: make sense from A Wall street, mindset but, uplift like
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: we were talking, earlier so many people out of, poverty
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: and you're trying to convince people that they don't care
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: about these, people that they're willing to disproportionately spend even
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: on remote communities to uplift their lives and give them
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: a living, income raising hundreds of millions of people out of.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: Poverty while, meanwhile since nine to, eleven you have had,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: millions literally millions of people die in either DIRECT us
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: conflicts or proxy wars from THE. Us there was a
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: there was a GROUP i think it was Mint press
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: or someone, else they did a study on, that and you,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: know five years ago it was already up to like
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: eight million or something like. That But, yeah to have
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: anybody from THE, us let, alone this guy say that
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: It's china that doesn't value human lives just after blowing
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: up a school with you, know two hundred girls in
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: it In, IRAN i, mean how tone, deaf how outrageous
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: to hear someone like that say something like that.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: Again for people like, him the other people are not,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 4: humans that's what he's really. Saying it's just, Like, oh
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 4: we DEVELOPED ai, targeting you, know we developed all this
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: is because we care about human. Lives he's really, saying
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: we're not Putting american lives on the, line but these
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 4: other people would kill, well they don't matter because they're
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 4: not humans really.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: Are, yeah and that's the that's the surface narrative that
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: they Need americans to. Believe but when you actually dig,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: deeper they don't care About american service men. Either know
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: who are who are who are going out To iran
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: without proper food that you, know they have to MAKE
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: ai images of service members on ships off the coast
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: Of iran eating properly because they're not actually eating properly.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: Properly in, reality they don't care about them, either but
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: they have to maintain that illusion so that people still
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: sign up for the. MILITARY i, mean if if if
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: if they actually started to catch on to the fact
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: that THE us government doesn't care about your lives, either
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: then they're going to have a big problem on their.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: Hands so, yeah that's that's the the surface. Narrative that
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: they want to put out to pretend to even care
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: about that small. Portion but they're, admitting like you, said
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: they're admitting that they don't actually care about anybody. Else
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: they only care About american. Lives and even that is
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: false when you actually, dig dig. Deeper, okay this is
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: this is so, blatant LIKE i don't know how she
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: composed this and not realize how blatant it.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: Is but you go ahead and dig this, one dig
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: into this.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 4: One the.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: Council, Okay, uh this is of course From Laura. Lumer.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 4: Uh he's talking About Jensen, huang, Right Jensen huang being
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 4: the founder and the head OF. Nvidia he's saying that
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 4: the fact That Jensen huang joining the board of Chin Hua,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 4: University china's PREMIER ccp organized the. Institution then, uh he,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: said this is basically. Trees he, said this is basically you,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 4: Know Jensen huang is selling Out america and oh, man
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: this is, UH i mean really like she's just playing racism,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 4: here Like Jensen huang is Because Jensen huang is Ethnic
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 4: chinese and and he has a lot of business ties In,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 4: china and this is so he must be automatically suspect
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: even though you, know, Again Laura Lumer hims herself is
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 4: one of the biggest supporter Of. Israel but but but
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: let's not look. There let's not look For israeli influenced
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 4: in The United. States let's look At. Chinese it's Mostly
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 4: chinese influence In. AMERICA i, mean this is so stupid
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: Because nvidia is actually foundational to the Whole AMERICAN ai, bubble,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: RIGHT i, mean, like like what you are going after
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: And vidia? SEE i mean LIKE i, DON'T i don't
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 4: even know where to.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: Go and she's literally skipped over every Other american's name
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: and only highlighted his. NAME i, mean this is, like
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: what's the only difference is that he's Ethnically? Chinese that's.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: It, yeah you, know it's it's really.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: Blatant we got we got a little bit of a
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: fun one. Here we got a Video chinese tanks are
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: powered by human push and, uh let's play the video
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: here to see.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 4: You SO i actually saw that video on DOING i
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 4: actually wanted to post it On twitter and and and
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: as a troll trolling, post say oh straight or home.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 3: Moose closure is having a huge impact On.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 4: China The chinese military is running out of, fuel so
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 4: they had to push their armor personnel. Carrier but BEFORE
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 4: i was able to do, it some follow And gong
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: associated people already posted but except they they made it like.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 3: Literals they made it.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 4: Literal they're, like, oh look at That china is uh
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 4: is just Military they have to push their own armored.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 4: VEHICLES i, mean this is this is actually occasion for
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 4: like a a demo that took place In. Macau like
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: the the whole point was it was a demonstration of, strength,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: right like like and and also you don't want you
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 4: don't want these uh armor uh heavy armor uh vehicles
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  Speaker 4: to burn like heavy diesel with like heavy black smoke
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  Speaker 4: with all these elementary school kids sitting in.
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  Speaker 3: Front, RIGHT i, mean, like that's not what you want to.
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  Speaker 3: DO i mean this is actually.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty common among other militaries, too LIKE us military do
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  Speaker 4: the same. Thing but they these these guys really thought
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  Speaker 4: that they had something, here you, know they really thought
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  Speaker 4: that was a god gotcha. Moment, look this is like
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  Speaker 4: on the same level of that babaganda saying That North
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  Speaker 4: koreans have to push their own.
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  Speaker 1: Trains that's, Right, yeah that's.
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  Speaker 2: RIGHT i, mean like it it's showing obviously human strength
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  Speaker 2: and the impressive thing, Is, wow a couple of guys
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  Speaker 2: can push this heavy. Tank but, yeah it's the same
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  Speaker 2: thing we were talking about. Earlier find, something latch onto, it,
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  Speaker 2: quickly put it out, there and develop some sort of
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  Speaker 2: a narrative that fits.
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  Speaker 5: It we.
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  Speaker 2: Have we've been going on for quite a while, here
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  Speaker 2: but we got one more. LEFT i can't remember what
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  Speaker 2: this one. Was let's see. Here oh, yeah, yeah, yeah
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  Speaker 2: this was. Interesting and this is this goes hand in
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  Speaker 2: hand with this wake up call that we were talking
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  Speaker 2: about all. Along WHEN i was In, china A chinese
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  Speaker 2: friend of mine looked at me straight in the face
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  Speaker 2: and ASK i hear In america that if you don't
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  Speaker 2: have food to, eat that will just let you starve and.
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  Speaker 2: Die this can't be, true, Right and and also, said
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  Speaker 2: couldn't you just go to the police station and ask for.
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  Speaker 2: Help and then my my city recently made it a
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  Speaker 2: leag go to hand out food to homeless. People and
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  Speaker 2: that's that's a, democrat uh mayor and governor no, Less,
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  Speaker 2: yeah this is like when there there isn't a campaign
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  Speaker 2: In china to Demonize. America as a matter of, fact
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  Speaker 2: there were people who posted like super critical stuff On
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  Speaker 2: america before on on On Billy billy and platforms like,
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  Speaker 2: this and they would get banned for just being too
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  Speaker 2: inflammatory towards Towards. AMERICA a lot of people actually don't believe.
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  Speaker 2: THEM a lot Of chinese people, thought, nah you gotta.
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  Speaker 3: Be making stuff. Up no, Way, no that's.
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  Speaker 1: True, yeah, yeah but that's my.
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  Speaker 2: Point my point is is even without a deliberate effort
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  Speaker 2: to Convince chinese people that there are major structural problems
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  Speaker 2: in THE, US i don't. KNOW i don't know if
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  Speaker 2: some of it's you, know more acceptable now to post
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  Speaker 2: because it's just too, obvious it's too big of a
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  Speaker 2: story that people for a long time just had this
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  Speaker 2: like he's, like, wow you, know it's like.
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  Speaker 1: Some of it is over.
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  Speaker 2: EXAGGERATED i guess to a certain. Degree LIKE i remember
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  Speaker 2: little kids asking me In, america will you you know
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: how easy is it to get? Shot you? Know is
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: that something they should really be concerned? About obviously more
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: so than places Like china or. Elsewhere but, yeah that
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  Speaker 2: is a shock to, people and it should be a
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: shock to people that the richest nation on, earth the
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: number one, superpower has people struggling the way that they
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: are has a homelessness problem at the level that they,
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: do when not only is it not prioritized to solve
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: those issues like it was here the poverty alleviation programs
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: where they were literally sending people into villages all Around
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: china to solve this. Issue that they're even going in
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: the opposite direction where they make it illegal for you
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: to even help these. People that is such a bizarre
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  Speaker 2: concept for somebody In.
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  Speaker 4: China and the question also shows How chinese people have
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: a different relationship with their. Police you, know they will
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  Speaker 4: ask why couldn't you go to the police.
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  Speaker 3: Station as well?
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  Speaker 4: Help you just don't do that in The United, states,
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  Speaker 4: Man like In, china you can't go up to the
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 4: policeman to ask for a. Direction that's very, common, uh you.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 4: Know and and people In china they don't fear their.
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  Speaker 4: Police you, know you see people arguing with police all
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 4: the time in. Public you don't want to do, that.
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  Speaker 1: You, Know i'll tell you.
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  Speaker 3: Don't do.
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  Speaker 2: That there's a there's this really cool bar near my.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: Place it's a whiskey. Bar and the guy clearly opened
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: it as a passion, project like he drives a. Maserati
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: he's not one of those ones who's changed to A
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: chinese e v. At he's got this giant snake that
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: he keeps in a in a box in the heated
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: whatever proper place for the. Snake he's got katanas and
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: all these different, models a cool place to hang. Out
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  Speaker 2: and there was, somebody there was a police, officer uh off,
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: duty who was, there and he was saying, that you,
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  Speaker 2: know there's a there's an officer that's assigned to each
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: neighborhood and it's really exhausting work because you get called for.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: Everything you, know sometimes it's just a couple arguing or.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: Something he's got to show. Up he's, like, okay, okay
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: stop arguing. Whatever but they also get called in because
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: like their drains are blocked or something like.
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  Speaker 1: That you, know they're they're coming in and they're this
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  Speaker 1: is what you call me. For but then they end
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  Speaker 1: up helping.
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  Speaker 2: Them they end up, saying, okay let me see IF
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: i CAN i can help you with, this and and
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: SO i heard the same thing In. Shinjang, also it's
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: like they just called them for for. Everything so this.
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  Speaker 4: My, Experience my experience In shinjong was local police are
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 4: they're very help unfriendly or according to our Our russian
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  Speaker 4: photographer stands she he lives In. Shanghai he says That
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 4: shinjong police even more friendlier than The shanghai. Police and
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  Speaker 4: by the, way most of the POLICE i met young our,
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  Speaker 4: locals there's you, know especially in the more southern part
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  Speaker 4: of the young, wear like the Heavy oiger majority, area
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  Speaker 4: they're they're all, locals mostly. Police.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah to the point where also sometimes there's these
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: kinds of highway, checkpoints especially as you're going to border,
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: regions and some of them they don't Speak mandarin that,
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 2: well even like they're usually communicating in their local, language
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: even people in the government who are supposed to be
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 2: speaking the national you know. LANGUAGE i REMEMBER i pulled
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  Speaker 2: up to one and he's like very Thick wiger, accident
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: and they started talking to, me wondering WHERE i was
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: from and uh and then asking, oh IF i have,
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: Kids and then WHEN i told THEM i had five,
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: kids which usually before wasn't really a big deal For
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: vegas have really big. Families but he, said oh, really he,
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  Speaker 2: said la poma one one and the other, guys the
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: other weaker guys behind him were laughing and they're like, yes, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: yes one one, wife one.
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  Speaker 6: Wife.
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  Speaker 4: Your, wife your wife deserve a medal like this back
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  Speaker 4: in the, days back in the, days in the, fifties
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  Speaker 4: she will get a medal for like the youroic mom or.
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  Speaker 1: Something you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, YEAH i had you met my, my my old
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: friend Who i've known for over ten, Years, joe The
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: tibetan guy From. Chinghai, yeah he came over two or
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: three weeks ago and he brought his, baby who's one
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: year old or just over one year, old and she
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: ended up getting a fever while she was. Here and
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: then so my my wife's been through it five, times
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  Speaker 2: took care of the whole, thing did the, bath And
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: charlo had to bring the temperature, down and they were
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: they were so thankful that when he went, back he
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: sent me this beautiful tanka which was. Painted and because
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: he's doing this business, now he's connected with schools where
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: students can sell their, work and he's reselling them In.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 2: CHINA i told him we got to get it, on you,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: know sell. Internationally but this beautiful this it's like a
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  Speaker 2: prayer thing written in gold paint. Circular i'll have to
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: get a picture of it next time to share.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: It, yeah, yeah, yeah but.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no she she's definitely, uh super, mom that's for.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: Sure but, YEAH i think we've been going on for
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: a while. Here we got some more personal stories we
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: can share next time, also but we've Been we're coming
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: up to two hours. Here it's a record for us so.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: FAR i hope everybody has enjoyed. That and did you
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 2: have anything else you wanted to wrap up?
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: On, carl H, No i'm.
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  Speaker 4: Good i'm. Good i'm thinking about what SHIRT i should
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  Speaker 4: wear next. TIME i haven't unpacked my shirts. Yet you,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 4: Know i'm on my last color for. Shirts, YEAH i
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 4: Think i've got. ONE i THINK i got one more
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  Speaker 4: in the. Tank i'll have to pick up some more
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  Speaker 4: off of ping and keep up with.
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  Speaker 5: It So.
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  Speaker 1: I've got some.
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  Speaker 2: Equipment i'm gonna be drying with my family and my
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: R v fourth two months through Mostly. Shinjiang i'll go
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: To beijing first and then i'll drive Through Inner. Mongolia
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: But i'm taking some equipment with me so we can
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: still do our our show on the.
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  Speaker 6: Road.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: Hope maybe we can do it with some scenery in the.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: Background but, yeah that'll be. Cool all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, well thanks everybody for. Joining thanks, Again, carl and
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: we will see you all in the next, Episode Peace,
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: peace