Latest / Financial Survival Network / Fed Rate Cuts Amid Economic and Social Chaos with Ed Siddell #5995
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- 0:00There's going to be a change. I don't know what that is. I
- 0:02don't know. I mean, we've all heard the rumors right that they're going
- 0:06to have that cut benefits by twenty to thirty five percent. They're going to
- 0:10continue to increase that full retirement age up into the seventies. You know,
- 0:15I don't know what's going to happen, but you know, at the current
- 0:18rate, you know, it's just it's it's broken, and you know,
- 0:22I don't know how long it's going to last. You are listening to Carrie
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- 0:52are listening too. I'm watching the Financial Survival Network. I'm your host,
- 0:57Terry Lutz. Well, we got some major issues to discuss the year.
- 1:02Obviously, the economy is slow and everyone can see that lay off up,
- 1:08but has offended stood up and take notice. Well, arguably you could say
- 1:15that their call for lower interest rates although we haven't seen them yet, is
- 1:19the first salvo in their mission of pupping up the economy and keeping the stock
- 1:25market going, especially in an election year at sidel is with us now,
- 1:30So GDP one percent, all right, So it doesn't qualify or classify as
- 1:38a recession yet, but if we had an honest inflation measure, maybe it
- 1:44would. Yeah. And you know, I was just talking to to a
- 1:48client and you know, we're talking about the old saying when it comes to
- 1:51uh statistics, right, numbers, it's they're they're you know, there's there's
- 1:56lives, there's damn lives and their statistics right, And depending on what numbers
- 2:00you're going to use it really you know, you can you can hedge you
- 2:07one way or the other. But you know, honestly, the way that
- 2:09I'm looking at this is the FEDS are saying, oh, hey, PC,
- 2:14that core it's at two percent. That's kind of our tarian number.
- 2:17You know, I think that they may be looking at that along with you
- 2:21know that you know one percent GDP. Where now all of a sudden,
- 2:25yeah, they they have the ability, that's the past that they need to
- 2:29start lowering rates because we see it. I mean, you and I and
- 2:35and everyone that we know, I mean, we're we're we're seeing, we're
- 2:38feeling the slow down already. But uh, I don't know. I think,
- 2:44well, I do not think we'll be shocked next week during the Fed's
- 2:47meeting. All right, So they said they're going to cut rates, but
- 2:52they haven't done it. Yeah, there's three of them for the coming year.
- 2:57Experts are saying six. And the mean rates have come down on their
- 3:00own, which is indicative of a possible recession. Mortgage rates, you know,
- 3:07long term rates, the two year has come down, which give some
- 3:10breathing room because the Fed funds rates still at five and a quarter, so
- 3:15they don't really have to do anything perhaps until later in the year. Those
- 3:19lower rates are no doubt going to be helping the imperiled banking sector too as
- 3:23well. Right, yeah, and you're absolutely right. You know, I
- 3:28think the Feds have been looking at it, especially Jerome Powell. They're going
- 3:32to let the capital markets, you know, do his job, you know,
- 3:37and that's actually what the market should be doing, is you know,
- 3:40doing what needs to be done, which is lower rates. And if you
- 3:43look at what happened in October, you know that thirty year mortgage. It
- 3:46was you know, eight point six percent at the high, and now depending
- 3:52on the lender, you know, it's hovering around six And I just saw
- 3:54the one this morning a little bit below six. So they're coming down on
- 3:59their own. I don't think personally that the Feds are even going to think
- 4:02about lowering rates until the mid to the end of the second quarter, which
- 4:06is May. I also disagree with the experts that they're going to lower it
- 4:13as much as six times. I don't know how they can do that without
- 4:16kicking inflation back in because there's a lot of inflationary things going on right now.
- 4:23All these government jobs are inflationary. We're overspending, which is inflationary,
- 4:28and so if they lower them too much, it's going to put us right
- 4:30back to where we were. Yeah, so there's a kind of a new
- 4:33way out for them. The only thing they get to do now, which
- 4:38they're probably better off doing nothing than something. But what happens when the market
- 4:43wakes up one day and says, you'll lie, we wanted to lower a
- 4:46rates, said you didn't give them to us, and then we have an
- 4:49inverted yield curve and all of that good stunts. Yeah, you know that
- 4:56could definitely happen. I think as long as the Beefeds adhere to what they
- 5:01were talking about before Lauren rates two or three times because they changed it from
- 5:05four to to three times in August the last year. I you know,
- 5:10I think the markets are going to be fine. It's just not going to
- 5:13be you know, a trajectory straight up like it was last year. But
- 5:16it's an election year. Historically it's always a positive year. You know,
- 5:20the average is close to eight and a half percent, no matter who's in
- 5:25the White House and whatever the running is. But I think we have an
- 5:29narrow window between now and the election to you know, make a little bit
- 5:32of hay while the sun shines. You know, as long as everything is
- 5:38status quo, which means there's there's no additional geopolitical issue. We we we
- 5:43don't have an event like Gaza, you know, or anything major happening or
- 5:47you know everyone who use of the term black swan. Yeah, all right,
- 5:53So what about asking this question here? So inflation kicks up, prescious
- 6:03metals start moving up, but then we have this thing called the January facts,
- 6:09right, and it's almost never brow. It's one of the most solid
- 6:13indicators so it goes January, so goes year. Yep. So then we'll
- 6:18have a dip probably after January or the first second week of February. It'll
- 6:25did it through till the perhaps the summer, and then the federal start making
- 6:30some noises because as the late Great allen ablesonset, the Fed is doing what
- 6:35it does best, which is an elected president right absolutely every time every time,
- 6:42you know, you know, and if you go back and you look
- 6:44at the stats during a presidential election year, you know, the turnover from
- 6:51you know, a Democratic administration to a Republican or Democrat staying you know,
- 6:59Democrat to Democrat, Republican and Republican. There's really not a whole lot of
- 7:03variants in that through the end of the year. It's the following year where
- 7:09there's a little bit of change. But you know, I look every time,
- 7:15you know, I come on your podcast, I say the same thing.
- 7:16You know, it's there's there's a debt issue, there's a debt bubble.
- 7:20But I'm positive this year, especially AI tech, I don't think that
- 7:26run is done. And you know, industrials and materials because that's been beat
- 7:30up so hard. Even though the economy is slowing down, you know.
- 7:35I I think that that's you know, a really good specter going forward,
- 7:41especially you know, as there there's hedges against the inflation. I think,
- 7:46you know, the industrials, materials that they're going to benefit from it.
- 7:49Okay, so so and then the of course, uh we would remiss,
- 7:58we didn't talk about so inflation is already cooked into the system. Everything you
- 8:03buy has gotten more expensive, especially things you need like food and energy.
- 8:09While that's down a little bit, but we'll see how long that led us
- 8:13for. Hey, inflation, is it behind us? Is the worst behind?
- 8:18Or are we going to have another resurgence because it's a twenty year cycle?
- 8:22Yeah? Yeah, I mean we're it's uh, we're just just barely
- 8:28ahead of the curve right now, and it is it's going to come surging
- 8:31back. I mean you can't, even though the FEDS have that core target
- 8:37of two percent I mean, which is literally arbitrary. I mean it really
- 8:41is. But when you add as many government jobs as we did and we
- 8:46continue to overspend, I mean, a republican democratic doesn't matter all overspending,
- 8:50right, and then we add in all the unfunded liabilities that we have,
- 8:56from social security to medicare, defense spending, and just you know, covering
- 9:01the interest on the national debt. You know, that's all inflationary. And
- 9:05we combine the national debt thirty four plus trillion and the unfunded liabilities which are
- 9:11estimated to be somewhere between one hundred and eighty and one hundred and ninety trillion
- 9:16on top of it, there's Yeah, that's inflationary. I mean, there's
- 9:22at some point in time, whether it's this year or next year, I
- 9:24mean, it's it's going to come home to roost. And that's what makes
- 9:30me nervous. This is why I say all the time I'm cautiously optimistic.
- 9:33And you know, we've got a very narrow window between now and in the
- 9:37end of the year through the election. Yeah, do you think they're going
- 9:41to take my social security away from me? Here? At you know what,
- 9:46I don't know if it's going to be there. When when you look
- 9:50at the aging population, the amount of the workforce that is not actually engaged
- 9:58in working, you know, there there's not enough people funding the boomers that
- 10:03are retiring, So there's there's going to be a change. I don't know
- 10:09what that is. I don't know. I mean We've all heard the rumors
- 10:13right that they're going to have that cut benefits by twenty to thirty five percent.
- 10:16They're going to continue to increase that full retirement age up into the seventies.
- 10:22You know, I don't know what's going to happen, but you know,
- 10:24at the current rate, you know, it's just it's it's broken,
- 10:28and you know, I don't know how long it's going to last, all
- 10:31right, so I should enjoy it. Well, I got it. Huh,
- 10:35Yeah, that's right. Here's a question for you. Like or narrow?
- 10:39You're better off taking it till you waiting until it hits need the tape,
- 10:46right, because then you get your maximum benefit. But dearly is this
- 10:52something that we want to perhaps speed up? Yeah? You know, when
- 10:56when we're building plans for people, you know, we're looking at it two
- 11:00ways. You know, the math, you know wins what what does it
- 11:05tell us the best time to take it? You know, is it you
- 11:09know, sixty seven, sixty eight, seventy, I mean, is it
- 11:11is at early at age sixty two? Right? Everyone's situation is a little
- 11:13bit different now. Having said that, I am my personal belief, I
- 11:20don't think that if they hate cuts that they're going to cut the benefits.
- 11:24I hate saying the word benefit because it's our money, but cut the most
- 11:28benefits of the recipients that are computing. What's that I said, they'll cut
- 11:33the outlays, right, Well, that's exactly it. So like to your
- 11:37point at right that just you back, that's all it is. And so
- 11:43it may make sense to actually take that money a little bit early so that
- 11:46that way, yes, you may have a reduction, but at least you're
- 11:50going to get it and you're locked in and it could wind up being more
- 11:52than than what the outcome is. Yeah, mine is I've got like survivor
- 11:58benefits, so that pays me about half of my eventual payment will be after
- 12:03seventy. So do I get ready now to take it all now? But
- 12:09should give me probably I don't know, fifteen hundred a month more or or
- 12:16maybe a thousand a month more it took it all now, or do I
- 12:20wait till the three years from now and I'm seventy and then get it.
- 12:24You know, it's a question I've been having difficult since with well, you
- 12:30know what, and that's a great question in the fact that you're being thinking
- 12:33about it is really important because most people don't think about it that way,
- 12:37and it really you know, is it going to be there? Yeah,
- 12:41we've heard estimates from twenty thirty nine to twenty thirty five to you know,
- 12:46twenty twenty six. Who really knows, because it's really there's nothing there.
- 12:52It's you know, it's a flow through, you know, the Social Security
- 12:56that's taken out of our taxes every pay period. That's what's going to fund
- 13:01the retirees. So if we don't have enough people working to fund that,
- 13:05you know that there lies the problem. And and where is that that break
- 13:09even point or the breaking point if you will, for that to happen.
- 13:13So breaking point I'm more concerned about than the break even point. Yeah,
- 13:18well yeah, absolutely so, you know, because it's a question also if
- 13:24they'd all do anything about it, then inflation is going to need it away
- 13:30anyway. Right, Well, yeah, you're exactly right. You know this
- 13:33fallacy we I've been hearing it all day on the news, the experts saying,
- 13:39well, you know, inflation, you know, inflation is going down.
- 13:41Inflation is going down. It's not going down, it's the rate of
- 13:45growth of inflation that's decreasing. I mean prices are still going up, and
- 13:50so you know, it's that like you said, you know, even though
- 13:52they're adding that that cost of living adjustment and everything else. I mean,
- 13:56you know, inflation. It's it's it's that silent tax, the island killer,
- 14:00if you will, against your wealth. It just keeps eroding it a
- 14:03little by little, not by month. Yeah, and sometimes not so little,
- 14:09right, yeah, sometimes not so little, because it does. I
- 14:11mean, you know, you've got different inflationary factors, just the standard of
- 14:16living, like you said, you know, those luxuries like food, shelter,
- 14:20clothing, Okay, and then you add into it healthcare or you know,
- 14:26if your kids are in college. You know, the the inflation rates,
- 14:30the growth rate and cost on healthcare and prescriptions and and education is astronomical.
- 14:37You know, the the economic inflation rate pales comparison to you know,
- 14:41those industries. So it does it it is, it's a wealth killer.
- 14:46You know, that's amazing looking at my social security state that I'm in,
- 14:50leading in me and my employer and basically that was my employer. I put
- 14:56it in write sixty thousand dollars and you know, it's going to take a
- 15:01long time for me just to break these on the deal and my parents on
- 15:07the other hand, you know, people ten to fifteen years older than me.
- 15:11Man, they really cleaned up on this thing. I'll be happy just
- 15:16to break eat it. You know, you're exactly right. I mean when
- 15:18it was originally designed, you know, life expectancy was I mean, so
- 15:22sixty five was the original you know, full retirement age and life expectancy was
- 15:30below seventy you know, sixty seven, sixty eight, sixty nine. And
- 15:33now people are living well into their mid to late nineties. And I and
- 15:37I think I would not surprise me, wouldn't shock me at all if you
- 15:41start seeing them, you know, continue to increase the eligibility age and the
- 15:48full retirement age, you know, to get close to that that same point
- 15:52again because now I think life expectancy carry for you and me. They just
- 15:56saw it again and it's below eighty again. I think it's like seventy nine
- 15:58or something like that for exactly that's see, so we have to be you
- 16:06know this, I'm just gonna just clarify what you're saying. Yep, if
- 16:10you make it to sixty, then you're probably gonna make it to eighty three.
- 16:15If you make it to sixty five, then you're probably going to make
- 16:18it to your mid to high eighties. And if you make it to sixty
- 16:22seven, you'll probably make it to like eighty eight or eighty nine. Those
- 16:26numbers aren't et sact but that comes from the actuarial tables. But the action
- 16:30of your life back don't see American mail is under it's like seventy seven,
- 16:36I think, right, Oh, is it that low? Okay, I
- 16:38just knew the average overall was below eighty. I didn't realize it was seventy.
- 16:45So I didn't realize it was that low. And we're in that right
- 16:48with you know, healthcare, the modern medicine and everything else. You know,
- 16:52our clients are aging population, they are living longer and longer, and
- 16:56so you know, we're having to plan out these plans until they're mid and
- 17:00upper nineties. Just based on the stats that you just talked about. So
- 17:06I just looked it up. American life expectancy that without regard to sex tender
- 17:12is seventy nine point eleven years, which actually increased from twenty twenty one when
- 17:21it was just under seventy nine. But you know, at one point it
- 17:26was definitely higher. But you know point is you have to be very concerned
- 17:37that the median life expectancy is eighty one point four and the women female was
- 17:42four point eight, which was down from well twenty twenty three went up a
- 17:48little bit. You have to look at you can google live better than me.
- 17:51And the point is there's different numbers, yes, but point is you
- 17:56could last a long time. And if you're holding out hoping your social security
- 18:02is going to get you through it, just figure if it makes your house
- 18:06and car payment and buys your groceries and your utilities, you'll be doing really
- 18:12well. Yeah, you know, and I mean just food, shelter,
- 18:17clothing, basic necessities. And you know, at the continued growth rate of
- 18:22inflation, you know that's that's going to be tough, especially when you add
- 18:26in you know, increasing taxes. I mean we're seeing that here in Ohio.
- 18:30You know all the the additional you know, assessments on property values and
- 18:36you know, school district taxes and everything else. And in even if your
- 18:40home is free and clear, it's becoming very difficult to afford to live in
- 18:45the house that you raise your families in. You know, for a lot
- 18:48of retirees that are all fixed income, which is why I'm creating a new
- 18:52newsletter and if you're subscribe to my existing one, you'll automatically get it.
- 18:56It's called the in slate. That's called Inflation Cafe where dollars go to die.
- 19:07Oh I like that, Pat, Yeah, yeah, so pint is
- 19:18this is serious stuff here. I didn't no, house serious. It is.
- 19:22Still you wind up retiring and then you don't have enough and then you're
- 19:26a greeter at ol Mart. Except the greater job is probably going to be
- 19:30replaced by a robot soon, right, boy, you know what, I
- 19:33didn't even think about it like that. You're exactly right, Yeah, you
- 19:37know. I mean because it it the front end capital for that robot is
- 19:41going to be way more expensive than long term. You know, it's going
- 19:45to be cheaper. You know, they're never going to get sick. They
- 19:47don't need vacation, no benefits. They just need a service to contract.
- 19:52Right, That's that's it. That's it. Yep. Yeah, Well,
- 19:56interesting times ahead for sure. Just tell us where we find you. How
- 20:02do we connect with you on the web. Yeah, you can find us
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