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Dogs on Skid Row | ‘Medical News’ with Dr. Jim Keany · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handel On Demand from KFI AM 640.
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  Speaker 1: KFI AM 640.
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  Speaker 2: Bill Handel here on a hump day Wednesday, September 16th.
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  Speaker 2: And some of the big stories we're looking at. The
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  Speaker 2: Kennedy Center is shut down. The board of the Kennedy
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  Speaker 2: Center handpicked by the president. And he is head of
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  Speaker 2: the board. has said it's in such bad repair, it's
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  Speaker 2: so derelict, that we've shut it down. Unless President Trump's
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  Speaker 2: name is on the building. Then it's not derelict and
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  Speaker 2: has to be shut down. Then we're able to keep
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  Speaker 2: it open. Okay, go figure on that one. All right,
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  Speaker 2: City Hall and what's going on on Skid Row. Have
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  Speaker 2: you noticed on off-ramps, if you ever drive to Skid Row, what.
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  Speaker 1: What do you see?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you see, obviously, people living in tents and on
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  Speaker 2: the street and garbage. And you see so many of
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  Speaker 2: them with dogs. There are so many dogs that are there.
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  Speaker 2: And here is the issue. First of all, dogs are
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  Speaker 2: great for everybody. It brings down the blood pressure. They
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  Speaker 2: help people just live a better life emotionally and psychologically.
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  Speaker 2: But the problem is we're talking skid rows. where these
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  Speaker 2: folks don't have enough food to feed themselves in many cases.
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  Speaker 2: And how do they take care of dogs? Just went
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  Speaker 2: to the vet yesterday with my pooch to clean her teeth,
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  Speaker 2: which I do once a year. It's 500 bucks because
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  Speaker 2: they have to put, well, it was him, 500 bucks
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  Speaker 2: to brush your teeth. And then do her yearly physical.
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  Speaker 2: That bill was $ 800 walking out the door, the whole bill.
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  Speaker 2: How does someone on Skid Row deal with a vet
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  Speaker 2: and giving the dog proper care?
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  Speaker 1: You can't. You can't.
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  Speaker 2: Even feeding the dogs is difficult when you're not feeding yourself.
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  Speaker 2: So there are animal advocates that are saying, let's go
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  Speaker 2: down to Skid Row and take these animals for their
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  Speaker 2: benefit to save them because they're suffering and there's animal
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  Speaker 2: cruelty going on. But there is a big legal as
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  Speaker 2: well as a political issue here. And that is, let's
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  Speaker 2: start with dogs and animals are property. You can't take
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  Speaker 2: property away from people just arbitrarily.
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  Speaker 1: It's against the law.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, having an animal on the street
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  Speaker 2: is not animal cruelty. Where is the line between a
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  Speaker 2: dog not being happy and not having enough to eat
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  Speaker 2: and it crosses into animal cruelty?
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  Speaker 1: And no one really knows.
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  Speaker 2: And people have been tagged. Now, when it's clearly animal cruelty,
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  Speaker 2: that's an easy one. The dog can be taken away.
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  Speaker 2: That's a crime to commit animal cruelty. And I think
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  Speaker 2: in some cases, the felony as it should be. But
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  Speaker 2: prior to that, what do you do? So you have
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  Speaker 2: these animals running around Skid Row. And the city is
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  Speaker 2: getting all kinds of complaints, people who drive through that area,
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  Speaker 2: people who have businesses through that area because what happens
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  Speaker 2: with dogs?
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  Speaker 1: They crap on the street. They pee on the street.
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  Speaker 2: They growl and attack people walking, although who the hell
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  Speaker 2: would ever walk on Skid Row? It would be crazy.
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  Speaker 2: But there are– the advocates on both sides. So the
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  Speaker 2: city has a task force. It did have a task force,
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  Speaker 2: but after pandemic, it gave it up because of costs.
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  Speaker 2: And so there it's coming back where you have these
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  Speaker 2: animal control out of the police department, actually deal looking
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  Speaker 2: for and dealing with dogs for the most part, because
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  Speaker 2: it's always dogs to be picked up. And the plight
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  Speaker 2: of skid row animals has become a hot bush button
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  Speaker 2: issue this year. You have conservative candidate Spencer Pratt post
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  Speaker 2: a video saying that dogs were used to test drugs
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  Speaker 2: and bred for drug money.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, why not?
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  Speaker 2: Steve Hilton, GOP candidate for California, the governorship called the
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  Speaker 2: situation on Skid Row a scandal. In the meantime, Karen
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  Speaker 2: Bass's office says that animal rights activists that are hitting
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  Speaker 2: the city with all these complaints are grandstanding.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know which way they're going to go on
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  Speaker 2: this because that is a real question. You know, when,
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  Speaker 2: at what point is a person living on the street
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  Speaker 2: struggling to feed or provide the dog cross the line
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  Speaker 2: from simply needing help to abusing their animals? And the
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  Speaker 2: city adopts a cautious approach about picking up dogs from people.
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  Speaker 2: It takes a huge bunch of evidence before the city
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  Speaker 2: is going to pick it up that the dog has
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  Speaker 2: been abused.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: You know, so much for that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, 2020 USC researchers estimated nine to 12% of homeless
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  Speaker 2: people owned a pet in LA County.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot of pets. It's a lot of dogs
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  Speaker 1: running around. And it's a shame.
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  Speaker 2: You see on street corners, you know, we'll, oh, I
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  Speaker 2: just thought of a, you know, I just thought of
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  Speaker 2: a story I haven't thought of years ago.
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  Speaker 1: It just came to me. And this is true.
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  Speaker 2: I had a dog and I was going to college
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  Speaker 2: at the time at Cal State Northridge.
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  Speaker 1: And there she was.
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  Speaker 2: And we didn't spay dogs because in those days you
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  Speaker 2: didn't think about it. And I didn't have money and
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have the wherewithal. So the dog got pregnant.
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  Speaker 2: It was stooped by another dog during its heat. And
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  Speaker 2: there are these little puppies. And no one wants these mutts.
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  Speaker 2: So I put them in a box and I took
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  Speaker 2: them to Cal State Northridge. And I had a sign
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  Speaker 2: on the box that said, every half hour I will
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  Speaker 2: kill one of these puppies today. If you don't adopt
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  Speaker 2: the dog, I actually did that. I actually did that. Uh, and, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, people didn't take me seriously. I had a
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  Speaker 2: baseball bat, uh, with me at the time. And I
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  Speaker 2: was looking at my watch and I said, uh, five, four.
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  Speaker 2: And I swear, uh, one of, uh, the gals that
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  Speaker 2: we're looking.
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  Speaker 1: At are okay. Okay. I'll adopt the dog. I'll adopt
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  Speaker 1: the dog. Of course I wasn't going to do that.
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  Speaker 2: I think, uh, I haven't thought of that story in years,
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  Speaker 2: and that actually happened.
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  Speaker 1: Amy, are you at all surprised?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think so. Okay, now, you go to Disneyland,
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  Speaker 2: you don't hear much politics. You go to Orlando, Disney World,
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  Speaker 2: you don't see politics. You go to Paris, you go
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  Speaker 2: to France... Disney, France, you don't see politics. However, you
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  Speaker 2: go to rural western France, and there is a theme
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  Speaker 2: park there. It's called Puy de Feu, or Puy de Foile. Boy,
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  Speaker 2: I'm so good at this. And there you're going to see,
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  Speaker 2: it's a theme park. Viking boats, pianos come up from ponds,
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  Speaker 2: knights are riding around on horseback. And it's the most
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  Speaker 2: popular theme park after Disneyland. And it's opened in Spain,
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  Speaker 2: plans to build one in England soon.
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  Speaker 1: And why is it so controversial?
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  Speaker 2: Because critics have called it a peddler of far-right propaganda. Because, well,
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  Speaker 2: as ultra-conservatives edge closer to power for the first time
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  Speaker 2: since World War II in France— The critics accuse it
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  Speaker 2: of weaponizing history to popularize the value of its founders.
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  Speaker 2: Former lawmaker supports far-right politicians and has campaigned against the
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  Speaker 2: European Union, Islam, gay marriage, immigration. And it's a cultural battle.
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  Speaker 2: Reminds us of here in the United States, doesn't it?
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  Speaker 2: Except this is a theme park of cultural values. Now,
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  Speaker 2: it's not your typical amusement park. No carnival rides, no
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  Speaker 2: big rides, very few vendors. Except you go to sets
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  Speaker 2: and their performances, mainly about French history. Indoor theaters, outdoor arenas,
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  Speaker 2: they last about half an hour. Special effects, lots of animals,
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  Speaker 2: and it is about French history. A show about the Romans.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, pretty sophisticated stuff. Charioteers race teams around using
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  Speaker 2: decorated horses around an Egyptian obelisk. Looks like the circus in.
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  Speaker 1: Rome. You know, the circus where they did the chariot racing.
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  Speaker 2: And in another show, 300 live birds, including vultures and
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  Speaker 2: bald eagles.
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  Speaker 1: Fly over your head.
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  Speaker 3: 250-acre park.
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  Speaker 1: And it is all about.
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  Speaker 1: France and its history.
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  Speaker 2: Now, when he was a student, the guy who created this,
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  Speaker 2: the owner, wrote a script about the region's bloody experience
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  Speaker 2: during the French Revolution. Locals took up arms against the
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  Speaker 2: new government. They were massacred. It started as a community
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  Speaker 2: theater in Now it has thousands of volunteers in the summer.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, Philippe de Viers, or de Valier, the
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  Speaker 2: guy who founded it, went on to become Secretary of
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  Speaker 2: State for Culture, a lawmaker elected. And in 1989, he
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  Speaker 2: went to Disney World in Orlando and he saw there's
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  Speaker 2: a business potential here. He's a very bright man. So
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  Speaker 2: he created the new park. And he started writing the
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  Speaker 2: scripts for new shows, offering the country the founding narrative.
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  Speaker 2: And he writes in his 2025 book, Populicide, Immigration Was
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  Speaker 2: Causing Civilization Collapse in France.
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  Speaker 1: Park now has 3,000 workers.
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  Speaker 2: Has 20 shows, five history-themed hotels, 26 restaurants.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it is a big deal. And it's come
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  Speaker 1: under intense criticism.
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  Speaker 2: Why? Because it is changing history. It is taking away
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  Speaker 2: the negative, the slavery that was in France, the massacres
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  Speaker 2: that people in power, in fact, contributed to. And it was, well,
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  Speaker 2: people were a little bit upset because one of the
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  Speaker 2: authors of medieval history, a known author and well-regarded in Israel,
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  Speaker 2: in France, says it's the erasure, the eraser erases French
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  Speaker 2: Revolution and the praise of Christianity.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it pushes.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of the shows are on Catholicism, marauding Vikings
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  Speaker 2: attack a Christian village, they are stopped by a ghostly
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  Speaker 2: saint and they are converted. And the Romans are cruel
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  Speaker 2: pagan overlords until they too are converted by the French,
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  Speaker 2: by the Gauls.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's not what happened at all.
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  Speaker 2: Christianity came to France from Rome after all of this
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  Speaker 2: happened and is presented exactly the opposite. The point is,
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  Speaker 2: you even have a theme park around the world Conservatives
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  Speaker 2: are getting more and more in power. And one of
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  Speaker 2: the things that is tough, and I'm fine with conservatives
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  Speaker 2: taking over. I'm okay with that. I mean, in democracies,
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  Speaker 2: it swings. But changing history, that's a problem. Like the Smithsonian,
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  Speaker 2: what's going on. And changing history and eliminating the history
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  Speaker 2: of slavery in the United States, downplaying it. It's not
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  Speaker 2: so bad. It's a small part of American history. If
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  Speaker 2: you go to the Smithsonian and other points of interest
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  Speaker 2: and historical sites in the United States. You know, slavery
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  Speaker 2: was the original sin of this country. Slavery is the
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  Speaker 2: history of this country. Probably as important as the founding
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  Speaker 2: of this country because it was the basis of the
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  Speaker 2: economy of this country in the South. Okay, we're done
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  Speaker 2: with that.
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  Speaker 1: Dr. Jim Keeney with us. And Jim, who is.
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  Speaker 2: Chief Medical Officer for Stignity St. Mary Medical Center in
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  Speaker 2: Long Beach and a certified, board-certified expert ER doc, or
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  Speaker 2: so they say.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Jim.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, Bill.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, a story about Celine Dion.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't affect most of us. It's just kind of interesting.
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  Speaker 2: And the syndrome that she has, which most of us
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  Speaker 2: have never heard of, after, what, six, seven years, she's
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  Speaker 2: coming back from it.
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  Speaker 1: And it is the... Chronic Stiff Person Syndrome.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I know I could do 45 minutes on that,
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  Speaker 2: do stand-up on chronic stiff person syndrome, but let's talk
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  Speaker 2: about it, what it is, because it's just fascinating.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So Celine Dion, she's now 58. She revealed it
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  Speaker 3: six years ago that she had stiff person syndrome. And
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's really tough for a singer, especially because
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  Speaker 3: to sing, it's not just breathing in and out. You've
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  Speaker 3: got to coordinate all those muscles of your diaphragm, your lungs,
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  Speaker 3: your vocal cords, everything. So what it is, is an
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  Speaker 3: extremely rare autoimmune neurological disorder. It's like maybe one to
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  Speaker 3: two people per million it affects. And it causes this
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  Speaker 3: progressive muscle rigidity, sometimes very painful, involuntary spasms. Women are
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  Speaker 3: usually affected twice as often as men. And what happens
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  Speaker 3: is the nerves are too excitable. So you have a
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  Speaker 3: nerve conductor called a GABA. That's actually an inhibitor. And
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  Speaker 3: you make antibodies against the enzyme that produces GABA. So
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  Speaker 3: now all of a sudden, you can't kind of put
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  Speaker 3: the brakes on your neurological system. And suddenly loud noises
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  Speaker 3: or being startled or being, you know, touched very roughly
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  Speaker 3: can or sudden movements, those can all cause a spasm
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  Speaker 3: that like drops you to the ground. So it's impressive
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  Speaker 3: that she's willing to go out there and do, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a full concert, knowing that something like that could happen
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  Speaker 3: at any point. Right now, there's no treatments for it.
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  Speaker 3: We mostly just use things that relax the muscles like
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  Speaker 3: benzodiazepines like Valium or Ativan. Baclofen is another medicine. So
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  Speaker 3: there are some autoimmune drugs. What do you call it?
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  Speaker 3: Immune components like IVIG that they can give for it.
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  Speaker 3: But this is a chronic illness. It's very difficult to
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  Speaker 3: deal with.
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  Speaker 2: With that, there's video out there, I think, that she
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  Speaker 2: posted showing her in the middle of one of these episodes.
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  Speaker 2: And she looks a god-awful mess while it's going on.
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  Speaker 2: And at the same time, she comes out a few
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  Speaker 2: days ago, announces that she is going to sing. And
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  Speaker 2: there are their videos.
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  Speaker 1: Of her performing.
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  Speaker 2: And she looks great as if nothing ever happened to her.
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  Speaker 2: So this is one of the things that resolves itself,
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  Speaker 2: at least the symptoms do, without any intervention. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, so that's why it's so impressive. I mean, this
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  Speaker 3: is a chronic illness. She's going to live with this
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  Speaker 3: the rest of her life. It's impossible to cure. But,
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  Speaker 3: you know, through medications and probably, you know, biofeedback and
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  Speaker 3: meditation and all kinds of, you've got to use every
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  Speaker 3: modality at your fingertips. And you can control it to
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  Speaker 3: some degree. So, I mean, I think it's inspiring for
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people who are dealing with chronic illnesses
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  Speaker 3: that change their lives and don't allow them to do
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  Speaker 3: the things they would love to do. I mean, this,
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  Speaker 3: if anything, just nails right on her gifts, right, to
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  Speaker 3: be able to sing. This takes it away. And somehow
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  Speaker 3: she's fought herself back to be able to do it.
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  Speaker 3: It is pretty inspiring.
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  Speaker 2: OK, now something that does affect or who does affect
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  Speaker 2: all of us is our dear friend, John F. Kennedy,
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  Speaker 2: JFK Jr., RFK Jr. And sorry about that. And he
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  Speaker 2: recommends something called a Wolverine peptide. Of course, immediately you go,
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  Speaker 2: what the hell is a Wolverine peptide? Does it cause
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  Speaker 2: really long nails to grow? I don't understand this at all.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's like something, again, so many things
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  Speaker 3: lately in the news are just something out of a
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  Speaker 3: movie or something. So you're taking a drug that has
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  Speaker 3: almost no human research on it. You're marketing it as
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  Speaker 3: the Wolverine stack. So Wolverine, remember, is a Marvel character.
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  Speaker 3: And so from X-Men, and he can heal himself quickly.
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  Speaker 3: And so that's the point. Wolverine stack is a stack
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  Speaker 3: of two peptides. One's BPC-157, which is body protective chemical.
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  Speaker 3: And that was found in gastric juices in the stomach.
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  Speaker 3: And it was noted that it helps your stomach heal.
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  Speaker 3: It also tends to mobilize cells. So it's cellular mobilization.
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  Speaker 3: And same thing with TB500. It's a similar drug that
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  Speaker 3: also seems to improve blood flow and mobilize cells. So
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  Speaker 3: you put the two together, and it's a very popular
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  Speaker 3: peptide that's being used in the gray market now for drugs. uh,
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  Speaker 3: people who are trying to recover from usually physical exertion
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  Speaker 3: or exercise. So it's, it's a way to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's a way to enhance performance, especially in the gym.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's been banned by the Olympic Committee because
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  Speaker 3: the Russians have been using it for 30 decades. So
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  Speaker 3: it does seem to have some positive effects. The problem
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  Speaker 3: is these people are buying it from the other news story.
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  Speaker 3: There was a bodega in New York where they bought
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  Speaker 3: them right off the shelf, right next to magazines and
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  Speaker 3: bubble gum. It says for research use only. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what researchers are shopping in a bodega. And they
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  Speaker 3: tested it, and there was none of those chemicals in
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  Speaker 3: the actual vials. So we don't know whether they weren't
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  Speaker 3: stored properly and degraded or whether it was something else.
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  Speaker 3: So it probably works if you can get the right drug,
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  Speaker 3: but there's no human studies to know the side effects,
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  Speaker 3: the downside, the dose. We don't know the right dose.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so let me ask you this, Jim.
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  Speaker 2: You are probably the only medical doctor I know I mean,
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  Speaker 2: really well-trained Western medicine that deals with a lot of
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  Speaker 2: woo-woo medicine.
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  Speaker 1: Would you take it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think I'd give it a try
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  Speaker 3: for sure. But knowing I would probably do it with
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  Speaker 3: like EpiPen right next to me, because, again, you don't
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  Speaker 3: know what you're getting. This is and, you know, ideally
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  Speaker 3: you would get it from a legitimate pharmacy that produced it,
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  Speaker 3: which you can't do in the United States right now.
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  Speaker 3: You can only import it from mostly from almost 100
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  Speaker 3: percent from locations in China who are making it. And
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  Speaker 3: you have no idea the production and what they're doing.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Jim, we're back. Here's a story.
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  Speaker 2: Nighttime light exposure negatively impacts heart structure and function. So
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  Speaker 2: I guess the takeaway here is pee in the dark
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  Speaker 2: and hope you don't miss.
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  Speaker 1: Do I have that right?
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  Speaker 3: That's absolutely right. You nailed it. So this is an
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  Speaker 3: interesting study because we've always talked about how poor sleep
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  Speaker 3: is bad for your heart. It increases cardiovascular risk. But
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  Speaker 3: what if it's not just the sleep? What if it's
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  Speaker 3: how dark your body experiences when you're sleeping? So this
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: European Heart Journal, they took the people from that UK
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: biobank that we've talked about before, and they took 11,000
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: adults with no cardiovascular risk. And the weakness of the
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: study is they wore a light meter for seven days,
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: and they used that as a representation of how much
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: light they were exposed to at night for the next
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: three years when they followed them. So that's kind of
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: a weakness in this particular study, but it did show
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: that people that did have more light exposure in their
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: kind of core five hours of least activity at night
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: had a higher risk, like a high risk of enlarged
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: muscle mass of the heart, thicker muscle, worse myocardial function.
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  Speaker 3: And this just goes along with other data we already know.
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  Speaker 3: And then They followed them and they ended up with
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: a 30% higher heart failure risk, about a quarter, 25%
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: higher heart attack risk, higher atrial fibrillation risk. you know,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: nighttime light. And it seems to really have a negative
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: impact on people. And, you know, with phones and with
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: the fact that people are up late at night watching
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: TV and things like that, it is something that's kind
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: of interesting. And it does follow what we already know.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Fair enough. So the takeaway here, pee in the dark
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: or you're going to die.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I got that. Jim, we'll talk again next week.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: All right, take care.
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