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S02 Ep17 - Siren sounds off on her perspective as a hot wife · The Bull Brotherhood

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you gotta like you gotta get some sense about
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you like not all these guys are just gonna fuck
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you because you say that like wanna fuck like
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he was not going for my wanna fuck approach and
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so i got to learn that like oh all hot guys are
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-minded explorers, we see you. Let's go. This
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here boy, Socrates, and my lovely, beautiful,
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amazing wife. Siren. What's going on, girl? Hey.
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So Mr. Morgan is not going to be with us tonight,
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and he will be missed. We are going to start
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recording a lot more. We have been kind of taking
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an unplanned hiatus for a while, but we did have
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some surplus, so we've been kicking them out
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every week for you guys. So today we're going
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to talk about... We're going to talk about a
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woman's point of view when it comes to the things
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that we talk about on the podcast. All the things
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that we value and we believe. And it's not like
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Siren hasn't been there to, you know, sprinkle
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her love and her wisdom on it. But we just want
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to have one episode. We're just focusing on the
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ladies tonight. And tonight is about Siren. Her
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experience when bulls that we're talking about,
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right, high -level operators, high -caliber bulls,
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men with experience, even if they don't have
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a lot of experience and they're new, but they
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really know what they're doing, how does a female
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siren feel about it? So did you want to start
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with anything in particular? You know me. I got
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a million questions. No, if you don't round out
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to the particular gentleman that I definitely
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want to highlight, then, you know, I'm sure you'll
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get there. Okay. Yeah. All right. So what we're
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going to do is we're just going to go over all
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of our episodes. We have 46 episodes. So probably
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not all of them. Not all of them. So we started
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off with our first episode. Three episodes, actually.
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No, two episodes on our pilot and the basic principle
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of claiming, training, and owning. So as a hot
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wife and knowing us and knowing what we've talked
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about throughout this year now, it's been like
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a year now, what do you think about when you
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hear claim, train, and own? That's like a whole
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episode. I'm not sure you should dive into that
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one for this podcast. No, that's how I want to
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do it. Just like you don't have to get crazy
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or it could be a long part of it. That's fine.
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Okay. I don't fully embrace it because I just
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don't understand and I don't really care to understand
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right now all of the parts of Claim, Train, and
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Own. Like I'm not really in that space. as some
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of the other bulls and hot wives are I'm not
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married to a cuck I'm married to a black man
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and the claim train and own thing doesn't relate
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as much to me and my particular dynamic so I
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don't fully understand all the pieces of it that's
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something I'm still learning about and asking
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questions about so when I initially heard of
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claim train and own I was like the whole own
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thing Like that really is like gross feeling
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at first. Um, cause like I experienced in previous
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relationship feeling like I was owned, but never
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utilized. So, you know, that was my own trauma.
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So I was like, Ooh, that feels icky. I don't
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like it. Um, but you know, as Mr. Morgan describes
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it, you know, to claim to train and to own. is
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not a possession thing as far as, you know, you're
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not an object for someone to claim, train, and
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own. It more describes the level of investment
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that these bulls are willing to put into, especially
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to a couple, as it pertains, a cuckold couple
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most of the time, but can be any sort of dynamic
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that chooses that path. So, you know, even though
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there's initial feelings of like, what the fuck?
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Clayton and that sounds so like barbaric or whatever.
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But then when you come to understand it more,
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you come to understand the deeper meaning and
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the level of care and investment that this bull
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is making in this couple to make their lives
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better. It's less of a Boy Scout badge for him
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and more of something that. he does to enhance
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the couple's life. So, yeah. I like that. I just
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had an idea, and I think we're going to try it
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on the next episode. But I think we're going
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to start talking, catching up. Because I was
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sitting there, and I was like, you have been
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through some crowd and crazy stuff, and so have
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I. And I think it would be cool if we share with
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our listeners some of the stuff you've been up
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to. I know you're going to share a lot of it
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on your podcast. I think you should serve some
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on this side as well, but we'll talk about that
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later. So I like that answer. Yeah. That's what
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I was suggesting earlier, but you wanted to do
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this. Yeah. We're doing this. No, no, no. I,
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I, I want, yeah. So I totally get it. Um, so
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yeah, cause we went into claim training on even
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more when we brought, um, Phillip and Lindsay.
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So that was, that was dope. Um, So the next one
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I want to know better perspective than from a
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couple who's actually in real life experiencing
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it. I was learning just as much. You know, along
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the way from my initial feelings. No, no, no.
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I totally get you. Yeah, I love it. So I'm going
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to skip ahead to one of my favorites, and that's
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the dick matrix. So I want to set this question
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up. So let me set it up a little bit. You know,
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as you guys know, I had an issue with my dick
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size. And I even talked to a fellow bull of mine
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who had kind of the same experience. And one
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of them was, and I didn't talk about this last
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time, is I have younger brothers, but their dad's
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different. Their dad's, my biological father's,
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you know, different than theirs, but we have
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the same mom. uh and weird thing is my my stepfather
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raised me he's not that taller than my biological
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father at all but my brother younger brothers
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came out much bigger and much taller and you
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know you're around and you know you're playing
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football you're in the bathroom you're sharing
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whatever you see and i was like oh i'm the small
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one you know and that's what i was thinking and
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then you know you'd be around you know if you're
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doing running a train or whatever and you're
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like oh okay so that part of it and all these
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other reasons why we went through that journey
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well when i did the dick matrix what it helped
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me see the first part of it the biggest part
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was you know it's part of a concert of things
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that your book you're bringing to the table and
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back then this was from someone who you know
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this is a vanilla person at the time so it's
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like the dick matrix taught me it's like oh yeah
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the the less you have your mouthpiece how well
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you speak to them unless you charming, you know,
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dress well, personality, all those things, the
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more important the dick's going to be, right?
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And that's what the dick matrix taught me. But
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we recently had a friend who was coming around
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a lot. He's no longer. You know, we found out
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his character's a little different than we thought
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it was. And we recently had a friend, and this
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dude, you know, he's packing, you know? He's
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bigger than me. And he... You know, he's working
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with something. You know, he needs to be on porno
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or something. But the dude would come in with
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the most insecure energy. And that is when it
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dawned on to me. So I said all that to say that
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the beginning 80 % of what I needed to learn,
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I learned it from the dick matrix. And that's
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when I'm like, I would tell any guy, it doesn't
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matter what size you are. I've seen micro penis
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to fucking 16 inch dudes. The guys that don't
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have personality don't get anything and the guys
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that have personality get it all. And that's
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including the big dick guys. And so my question
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to you is, with all that being said, what is
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the difference between big dick energy in the
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lifestyle and not so much big dick energy? Phrase
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that a different way. I don't really, with the
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setup, it doesn't make sense. I'm confused. Yeah,
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like, I used to think big dick energy was having
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a big dick, and then you're just naturally, okay,
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you know, as women always say, I got a big dick.
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But then when I noticed that. Really? Yeah. Because
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that's not what it's about at all. Well, that's
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my point. I want you to speak on that. Oh. Oh,
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just about big dick energy? Did you have a specific?
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What was the specific question about Big Dick
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Energy? The question was, what do you notice?
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What is the difference does it make to you? Tell
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me about someone who has it, even if they're
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not the biggest one in the room, and someone
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who doesn't. Oh, okay. That makes more sense.
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Gosh, I don't want to pinpoint scenarios because
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I don't want anyone to. make it mean something
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that I'm not trying to make it mean but um I
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guess you just obviously you know you're not
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the big dick in the room so if this guy hears
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this and takes it as anything less than a compliment
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then I can talk to you privately sir but me and
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my girl we had a crazy weekend a couple weekends
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ago in Houston and we invited different gentlemen
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to come through and visit us and you know what
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like I would say everybody was a good experience
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but there was one guy in particular that he was
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fine like he wasn't the biggest dick in the room
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but he let me tell you this man rolled out the
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red carpet for us like he you know kept himself
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fit the way he spoke you know he contacted us
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both ahead of time made sure like what we wanted
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to drink um what we wanted to snack on like usually
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those are things that I sometimes just have to
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ask for but he was just ready um he got a room
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next to us like he made every effort to make
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everything about us for our convenience and for
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us to have a good time but yeah to me he has
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big dick energy because He just embodies this
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calm, confident guy that's just going to go in
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there and help us have a good time. And he's
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very focused on us, whereas there's other guys
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that walk in the room that can be swinging. And
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I don't think we had any that weekend that were
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like this. they just resonate like kind of the
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opposite. Like they act like you're like, they
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act like they have a small date. You know, they're
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really bragging about themselves, talking a lot
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about what they've done lately. And some of it
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could be nervousness. You know, like I talk a
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lot when I'm nervous. I'll just be like, and
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the guy has to like shove a dick in my mouth
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to shut me up. Like when it's our first play
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date. so some of it could be nervousness but
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they just kind of have this way of just being
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like the whole things about them like they're
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talking about themselves a lot they're you know
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telling you what they've done and this and that
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and then you just pussy starts to feel dry and
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you know I'm perimenopause so I'm already struggling
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with that okay people um But yeah, it's just
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like the quiet, calm, confident ones that just
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come in, they make it about you. And that is
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the big dick energy for me. And the little dick
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energy is the guys that just come in and like,
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or maybe even ahead of time, they tell you all
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these crazy things they're going to do to you
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and then never follow through. So that's the
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difference for me in my present, you know, excursions
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and adventures. Did I answer your question? Yeah,
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you did. You did. So as a hot wife, I want to
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talk more about that. So as a hot wife, how much
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does size really matter for you? Well, let me
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tell you. I want a variety. I think that I couldn't
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go through life having all small dicks. prayed
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for what i have in my husband and i'm very satisfied
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and happy um i didn't i didn't want to be like
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day in day out with the guy with a small dick
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i didn't so it matters but then there's also
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like so i didn't want that for my daily driver
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you know um i kind of liken it to cars like i
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don't want like a small car I wanted a big car,
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but I didn't want a semi, you know? So I drive
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in real life a big black lifted Chevy truck,
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right? And I drive in real life at my house,
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in my bed, a big black dick, okay? I don't have
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a Prius, but I don't have a semi, you know? So
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I got exactly what I wanted to have for my daily
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driver. But hey, sometimes it's fun to go really
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fast and really far in a Prius. And you have
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a really good time. Okay? These guys that have
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smaller dicks, they can still make you have a
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very, very good time. Because they got all these
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ways of moving it around in there. They got a
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little bit more wiggle room, you know? And they
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make you have a good time in different ways.
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Then there's the semis, man. They're like, you
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know, park that big Mack truck right in this
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little garage is right. It's like a full feeling
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like you're going to burst. So that's just it's
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just different varieties of fun in the different
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sizes. So for me, all sizes matter because I
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have lots of fun with all the sizes. But the
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size that I signed up for to be with for the
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rest of my life. was the lifted Chevy truck.
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Does that answer your question? Yeah, I like
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that. That's a great metaphor, actually. Okay.
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I like it. So... It's always splashing here.
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So let's just talk about... I just want to hear
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top to bottom, like... what you love about splash
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what splash has done for you just give me a rundown
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from a hot wife's perspective and we're very
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lucky in the sense that you have your own podcast
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you have your own um you know community that
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are you a part of and you have a telegram group
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where you guys discuss with only women and it's
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very private so you kind of have a little bit
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of the pulse of what hot wives in this community
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and some are a lot of them are from splash but
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some of them aren't they're just from listening
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to the podcast right so you get a lot of perspective
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so but tell me about splash what do you and particularly
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love about it and what do you think hot wives
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in general love about it well i like that it's
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organized you know um we don't really have to
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get them in there then they get them in there
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for us that's nice Um, it's a concentrated effort
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in one place. You know, the efficiency makes
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my pussy wet so that we can go there in three,
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four days. You know that you're going to, I mean,
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they never guaranteed play obviously, but if
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you put yourself out there at all and like close
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the deal, you know, like you can close the deal.
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Like, you know, we'll even have some ladies that
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jump in the ladies group. in the middle of a
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splash and say hey ladies you know i'm not having
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as much luck as i usually do or you know what
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what do i need to do you know what are you feeling
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as the poults what are the men saying you know
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um so i just think like the great amount of people
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like you know there's always a little bit of
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something behind the scenes with people People
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can say all day that they don't like drama. I
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think everybody who says that is a fucking liar,
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okay? You just don't want to be in the drama,
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but you want to fucking talk about someone's
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drama. Believe you me, I am she. And I just talk
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about that to my husband, like we have our little
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tea time in the hot tub, you know, where we talk
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about everything we've been hearing. So don't
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be deceived and think that everyone out there
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is like... oh yeah I don't like drama I don't
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like talking you know but for the most part I
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think that it's a really good community I don't
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feel I'm kind of a lone wolf though I just wander
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around by myself occasionally I might have like
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one gal with me but not very often do you see
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me like running with a pack so and I do that
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intentionally because you know I don't I've never
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been, like, a part of, like, a cool group or
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a clique or anything like that. So I like being
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by myself at those things or occasionally just,
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like, bring one friend around, you know, maybe
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someone new that, like, wants, you know, to kind
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of learn the ropes. But I like that you can wander
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around however you feel. Like, is it you want
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to be in a group? Great. You want to do it with
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your husband? You want to do it with your boyfriend
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and your cook? You want to do it with a bull?
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Like, how do you want to move through the operation?
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There's all different benefits to every single
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way that you can do it. Depending on your personality,
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your play style, what you're looking for, you
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know, there's so many options. Sometimes that
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can get a little overwhelming. It's taken me
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a lot of splashes to kind of hone in on, like,
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Number one, I love one -on -one. It shuts my
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brain off. It's total relaxation. It's almost
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always 100 % the ticket. I used to want to be
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in the big playrooms more and show off more,
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especially in the beginning because I was just
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so fucking excited. I mean, I ran rabid. There
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is no doubt about that. feral naked and wild
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um and then you know there's room parties there's
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there's all kinds of things so you can just learn
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like what you like and guess what if at the next
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splash you want to try something new or you want
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to go back to something you tried before and
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see if you like it now you know you can like
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there's total freedom to move about how you want
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to um i mean obviously There's so many beautiful
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men. Most of them, like, approach very well.
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The others are very open to feedback, it seems,
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most of the time. So I like a place where you
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can actually talk to someone and have a conversation,
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too. Or you can also be like me in the beginning,
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like, wanna fuck? And they're like, oh, they
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didn't think it was going to be that easy, right?
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So you can be yourself. Just be yourself. You
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know, be kind to other people and play responsibly,
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but you can just be yourself. There is something
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for everyone at Splash. Yeah, yeah. I love it.
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Oh, but let me say why I think other hot wives
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enjoy it. For us, we play a lot. We are very
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fortunate in our opportunities. We've created
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them. So it's been a lot of hard work, but we're
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reaping the benefits. So we're very fortunate
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in that. There's a lot of people that live in
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rural areas where there are not a lot of opportunity
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for the play experiences that they want. so for
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a lot of hot wives i think this is just like
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it's such a treat it's such a like a vacation
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from regular life it's you know going to the
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chocolate factory and like you know how often
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do you get to go to the chocolate factory if
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you live in you know buttfuck middle of Texas
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or something you know like it's not like you
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can just run down and or have a play partner
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they're like oh yeah we're 250 miles away you
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know that's not exactly convenient and then on
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top of that being you know finding someone who
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vibes with you in a personality match you know
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sometimes it can just be more challenging I hear
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that a lot in the ladies group um but where there's
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a will there's a way but splash is an opportunity
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for especially those hot wives to be able to
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Maybe they only have it a few times a year, you
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know? Like, here am I, like, even in the Pacific
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Northwest where I live and it's not as diverse
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as a lot of places, still, I have, like, play
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opportunity, like, at least once a week if I
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want. Twice if I want to, like, you know, have
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one really awesome one and one, like, you know.
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a seven like you know you there's opportunities
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so I just feel like it's a really nice escape
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from them for from like everyday life if they
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don't get to live the lifestyle 24 -7 like we
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do then it's an adventure it's like it's it's
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exciting it's something look forward to um one
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of my friends calls it dick me land you know
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so it's just something that we've we've since
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since childhood we've always had things that
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we look forward to whether it was Disneyland
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or the county fair or a road trip or going to
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college or things. The human experience is built
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on things to look forward to. That's why you
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don't like surprises. You want to know so you
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can think about it, so you can look forward to
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it. Yeah, so it's just something that they can
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look forward to all year, like Christmas or anything
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else, that experience that these men are going
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to deliver. Yeah. That's true. Dick liver. Talk
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to me about Mr. and Mrs. Mocha. Well, first of
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all, Mr. Mocha hurt my feelings right away because
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I, like many of the women, immediately saw him
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and was like, yes, please. So I had my husband
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approach him. And he was not interested. Boo
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hoo. But you know what? I now am like grateful
27:24
for that. Because first of all, it taught me
27:27
on that one because I was feral. Like. You gotta,
27:30
like, you gotta get some sense about you. Like,
27:32
not all these guys are just gonna fuck you because
27:35
you say that. Like, wanna fuck. Like, he was
27:38
not going for my wanna fuck approach. And so
27:41
I got to learn that, like, oh, all hot guys are
27:44
not the same. Like, you can't just go up there
27:46
and say that, you know? And then I don't think
27:51
it was, Mrs. Monka wasn't at that one. And then
27:54
it was an entire year. I don't think. I don't
27:59
think you made like a real good connection with
28:01
him yet, but then you started following their
28:03
podcast and we would listen to them. And then
28:06
by the next year, then she was there. And then
28:10
we went into the Dirty Girls Corner episode at
28:14
Splash and listened in. And then she made me
28:17
cry because she was talking about her and Tina
28:20
were talking about space for everyone, you know,
28:22
like, because I'm a bigger girl. I weigh over
28:25
200 pounds. Like, no shit. But there was a time
28:30
where it was like, I didn't feel like there was
28:33
no way in hell guys that look like this were
28:35
going to fuck a girl that looked like me. You
28:39
know? And Splash changes that. And Mrs. Mocha
28:43
in that moment, like, changed that for me. And
28:46
then, and I didn't know. like anything about
28:50
her right I was just like oh she's super hot
28:52
and she's beautiful and oh she's thin and she
28:54
has great tits and you know like all these things
28:57
and I was like nervous and then she came up to
29:00
me and was like hey I noticed that you like had
29:02
a moment in there and I just like wanted to see
29:04
if you want to talk about it you know and then
29:08
I don't know we talked to them in the lobby a
29:11
little bit started following the podcast and
29:14
then I don't know, somewhere along the way, we
29:17
just started talking to them all the time. And
29:18
we've to this day, I've never played with them.
29:21
And guess what? That's just an awesome example
29:25
of like it's like just because we're on the lifestyle
29:27
doesn't mean we're all going to connect our private
29:32
parts. Sometimes we're going to connect much
29:34
deeper in our hearts. And that's what the mochas
29:36
are to us. Like they're our best friends. We
29:40
like talk to them damn near every fucking day.
29:43
And if we don't, we're sending out like an alert,
29:45
like, are you alive? Like, please let us know
29:49
a flare or anything, you know? So, so that's,
29:54
you know, that's my queen in the fellow castle
29:56
that I can call and be like, this is your fucking
29:58
king acting like a stupid idiot today. Cause
30:01
mine is right. And then we just keep that there
30:04
because we both know how awesome you guys are
30:07
and how lucky we are to have you. um we go on
30:10
little trips or whatever and we always come back
30:13
more grateful for our husbands but then it's
30:16
like all the stuff that you out here there are
30:19
listeners you just know like 99 awesome about
30:24
our guys right but we live with them right just
30:29
like they live with us and you guys know the
30:31
99 awesome about me and mrs mocha but it gives
30:35
us that chance to have someone that we can talk
30:39
to because our husbands are so similar, we're
30:42
so similar. They're probably like, our wives
30:45
are twins like we're twins. So it's just such
30:48
a good friendship to have because I really feel
30:51
like we've been through some good, bad, and ugly,
30:54
even just in the two and a half years that we've
30:57
been friends with them. It's grown really quickly
31:00
and really close. And I would be on like a plane.
31:06
you know, in 10 minutes if they needed us. So
31:09
that's how I feel about them. Yeah. It's great.
31:15
Do you want to say anything about the mochas?
31:20
I feel like you should. You just saying it's
31:22
great sounds kind of like I know you have a lot
31:25
more to say. Well, you know, it's about you.
31:27
This one's about you. You know, I mean, what
31:33
can I say? We've had him on. I've been on his.
31:36
It's the Mr. and Mrs. Mocha do a podcast called
31:40
Oh Faces. Oh Faces. And you guys should check
31:44
it out for sure. I thought they changed it to
31:46
Orgasm Faces. Orgasm Faces. I misspoke earlier
31:49
too. You're right. Orgasm Faces. Because they
31:53
were actually on the Strictly Anonymous podcast
31:58
and she recommended that. Yeah, that's a good
32:01
change. So anyway, you know, that's my boy. I
32:05
love the shit out of him. Like, you know, like
32:07
you said, I'd do anything for him. He's taught
32:11
me so much. He's been such a great friend. Nisha
32:16
and I don't talk that much, but. Mrs. Mocha.
32:19
Oh, yeah. Mrs. Mocha. But I don't talk that much
32:25
to Mr. Mocha either. But I feel like there have
32:28
been a couple of moments. I will point one out
32:31
to you and then you know mine with Mr. Mocha.
32:35
Jeez. Once you start thinking about them and
32:39
how much we care about them, like their real
32:41
names come to our minds pretty easy. So there
32:44
was, I think that's actually the Mocha that we
32:49
really, really bonded with them. We had started
32:51
talking to them a lot. We had met them at the
32:54
Houston in November. Then we went to our first
32:57
Atlanta. Splash. And we had an incident where
33:04
I broke a rule and I admitted it to you and you
33:07
got upset, rightfully so. And you went and talked
33:10
and Mrs. Mocha caught you and talked to you and
33:15
really helped you through that. And then she
33:18
talked to me and. I think through that and then,
33:22
you know, even Mr. Mocha came afterwards. And,
33:24
you know, I think through that experience, we
33:27
really like found out that what true friends
33:30
they are. So in hindsight, it's like then there
33:35
was also something that, you know, you broke
33:37
a rule. So we both broke a rule that thing. But
33:41
I don't regret the rules being broken now because
33:44
they both both of those experiences like taught
33:48
us. more about who our true friends are so sometimes
33:52
things will happen and we will make mistakes
33:55
but coming back to our foundation and our framework
34:00
for lifestyle is what matters um i was saying
34:06
something about the mochas i forgot what it was
34:11
oh how much we talked to them oh and then you
34:15
know recently i had the mr mocha you know, come
34:18
up to me at the last Atlanta and just share his
34:22
heart about how he feels about you and how, um,
34:27
basically just being like, if you say it in one
34:30
sentence from like your big brother, like bitch,
34:33
you better appreciate the goodness you got. So.
34:40
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was greatly appreciate it.
34:44
Yep. Love it. Um, Let's talk about cuckolding,
34:53
cuckold couples, you being a cucksitter. And
34:59
then I want to get into Victoria and James because
35:01
they're one of our favorites. But talk to me
35:04
about how you feel about cuckolding and what
35:08
you've discovered at Splash and your journey
35:10
just in lifestyle in general. Okay. I just want
35:13
to make sure that we get to talking about San
35:16
Diego Sam. Okay. No problem. Okay. I just don't
35:21
know how much time we've been talking already.
35:22
Yeah. Because that's the one I'm most excited
35:26
about. Well, let's just talk about Victoria and
35:29
James because that's just easier to talk about.
35:32
Otherwise, I guess I can't remember where I heard
35:38
the term, the cuck sitting thing, if it was Michael
35:42
C's podcast or something, maybe. And then I called
35:45
and talked to him personally about it. And he
35:48
said, well, what interests you? And I said, well,
35:51
sometimes, you know, I said, oh, I know how I
35:54
got interested in it, is when we had had unsuccessful
35:58
after unsuccessful full swap. And finally, in
36:05
my brain, I would be like, okay, well, when the
36:09
husband, you know, the other husband is complete
36:13
on his journey. And you and his wife are still
36:18
playing. I was like, what are some things that
36:21
I could I do? You know, because I'm like, OK,
36:24
well, I'm kind of done over here. So like, what
36:26
could I do? And one of them, some of it was like
36:29
getting in there and like helping pleasure her,
36:32
you know, doing different things there kind of
36:35
because I'm like, OK, let's just focus on her.
36:38
And then I was like, oh, I also could, you know,
36:43
just sit and talk to the husband. during it or
36:46
whatever so then i was like okay and then i heard
36:50
that about the cuck sitting and i was like oh
36:51
well that could be like an extended version for
36:55
cuckold couples or you know because that was
36:59
like a stag vixen couple so i was like okay how
37:01
can we work all these things in and then somehow
37:05
we started talking to victorian james we had
37:09
met them at a houston splash and then we connected
37:14
with them before I think the next year in Fort
37:18
Lauderdale and so for about four months we had
37:21
a group chat and we just talked about all these
37:23
ideas and James just the naughty little cuck
37:27
that he is kept suggesting things and they more
37:31
had to do with me and I was like hmm okay and
37:35
so I said well you know I asked Socrates I was
37:38
like hey should we just like bring up this cuck
37:40
sitting thing and Because that's sort of the
37:43
vibe I'm getting from this guy, that they kind
37:45
of want me to be involved and do more. And what
37:48
does that look like? I don't know, you know.
37:52
And then so then we brought it up and then we
37:55
just started chatting about it. And then Victoria
37:58
and I messaged privately a little bit. And then
38:00
James and I messaged privately a little bit.
38:03
And, you know, I know that you did the same.
38:06
And we all kind of got, you know, what we were
38:09
thinking as far. as the cuck sitting and how
38:13
it would go. Like what did she, what power did
38:16
she want me to have? That's what got me off.
38:18
It's like, Ooh, this is not my man. I don't have
38:21
to deal with him on the daily, but his wife has
38:24
given me the power to like do certain things
38:26
or, you know, so she gave me the key to his cage,
38:29
you know, um, gave me my permissions, you know,
38:34
whatever I could do. But I think it went beyond
38:37
anything that we could have imagined. What do
38:42
you think? Oh, yeah. It was amazing. I could
38:45
not focus on her. And Victoria is a very beautiful
38:49
woman. And normally I'm 100 % locked in. Like
38:54
I said, you know, a beautiful woman keeps me
38:57
focused. A woman that I'm playing with and I'm
39:01
interested in and we're just vibing, you know.
39:03
But, babe, that was also the tramadol trip, too.
39:07
Yeah, but as soon as you left, I had no problem
39:09
with her. With her, it came through, through
39:15
all the obstacles. But what I want to talk about
39:24
is there was a little controversy. We won't say
39:27
when or who or whatever, but some people feel
39:30
like you don't belong in the community. Oh, in
39:34
the cuckold community? Mm -hmm. What do you think
39:36
about that? If a cuck welcomes me, I belong.
39:43
Mic drop. If a cuck holdress welcomes me, I belong.
39:51
Because my community is only as big as the people
39:54
that want me there. So it's like, if that person
39:57
doesn't want me, they can label their fucking
40:00
community whatever they want. But it's like,
40:02
your community's over there. Like, my community
40:06
is the people that want me there. And we have
40:10
just, people know, you've done this several times
40:12
after, and we've had several requests. A lot
40:15
of it's just scheduling. Yeah, we haven't gotten
40:17
to fulfill the requests of everyone because they
40:22
don't live here, too. So we have to wait for
40:24
the opportunities to arrive. And I have a very
40:28
full schedule as well. So sometimes Socrates
40:32
is going to see these couples, and I'm not coming
40:34
with, so therefore. But we do have one scheduled.
40:38
that you are coming with. Who's that? I'm not
40:49
going to say on here, but I'll tell you later.
40:52
A couple? Yeah, they might not want their business
40:54
out like that. But yeah, we got one coming up.
40:58
We just got to ironing out those details. Because
41:02
I was going to go by myself. Oh, yeah. You were
41:04
like, I want to... I want to cuck sit. And he
41:07
was like, hell yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's going
41:11
to pick out an outfit. Exactly. Okay, yeah. And
41:14
so we have gotten together with different cuckold
41:18
couples. Yeah. So guess what? It's just another
41:25
option out there. People don't, I understand
41:29
if certain wives are nervous about this option.
41:34
But what should be understood is that if there
41:39
is percentages of options and power and things
41:45
that I'm allowed to do, it's all the way from
41:47
zero to 100. So I could have one option. I could
41:52
be sitting next to the cuck, don't touch him,
41:55
and just tell him things about how hot his wife
41:59
looks. And how she's so fucking sexy and, you
42:04
know, getting fucked and, you know, doesn't she
42:07
look great? You know, whatever. All the way to
42:11
I am in a like a dominatrix type outfit. I have
42:17
a whip. I have heels. You know, I might tie up
42:22
the cuck. You know, he might have a ball gag.
42:26
He might be in his cage. He might be getting.
42:30
flogged you know I may or may not I may have
42:34
the key to his cage I might waterboard him by
42:36
riding his face until I squirt so much that he's
42:40
choking all the options so that could have made
42:47
you more nervous so that could have made you
42:48
really excited and if it made you really excited
42:52
then maybe shoot me a message siren 1982 on telegram
42:56
and we can talk details If it made you nervous,
43:00
also reach out to me at Siren1982 on Telegram.
43:05
And I would be happy to answer your questions
43:08
and make you feel more comfortable. And you know
43:12
what? Knowledge is power. And even if it's something
43:14
you never want to do, still learning about options
43:17
is cool. So. Yeah, I love it. I love it. And
43:22
I was just thinking now, I just finished reading
43:25
a book. I recommend every. dominant bull or if
43:30
you're a bull that's also in the kink community
43:32
i recommend reading um the new topping the new
43:36
topping book uh by the same authors who wrote
43:39
the ethical slut i should probably read it i
43:42
was gonna say that because you just finished
43:44
as a dominatrix you know yeah well i'm a switch
43:49
as well for In the cuck thing. In the cuck thing,
43:54
you're a switch, right? But you can switch to...
43:56
No, I'm a dominatrix. Yeah, yeah. You can go
43:58
to that far as you can be just sitting there
44:00
talking to him, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But
44:02
you would really learn a lot from that. I agree.
44:05
So, yeah. Because to bulls, I'm completely submissive.
44:10
Exactly. Unless they're what I affectionately
44:12
call a bull cuck. It's a little bit of a mixture.
44:15
Like, they can also be a switch, and that's fun.
44:17
I have a couple of those in my life. So... just
44:23
possibilities just keep forming and i'm very
44:26
excited yeah and um here's the thing it's like
44:32
for those who just want the community to be the
44:36
cuck the hot the hot wife or cuckoldress and
44:40
the bull we respect that you know uh don't invite
44:44
us you know what i'm saying it's just that easy
44:46
but I'm glad you and I've met some other people.
44:51
I won't speak for them. They've been on podcasts
44:53
before, but I've met some other women who are
44:57
dominatrix and cuck sitters, and they're single.
45:03
They're not even looking for a cuck. You know
45:06
what I mean? So that's what I love about this
45:08
community. It's like those who are open -minded
45:10
to that, like you said, hit us up. Those who
45:14
are not and your communities should be closed
45:16
and you feel like nobody that's outside of those
45:20
labels should be invited to your community, great.
45:25
That's the diversity of this community. And what's
45:28
beautiful is I've attended some different events
45:33
and learning the more that us... non -cuckold
45:39
couples can learn about cuckold couples the more
45:42
we can help your community you know whether you
45:46
include me in that or not it's like the more
45:49
you educate us on how it works for you your dynamic
45:52
all the different options like the more it helps
45:56
everyone so learning about other people's dynamics
45:59
is so important like i'm always interested to
46:03
hear how people's dynamics work yeah yep of it
46:10
okay so on the bull brotherhood podcast our mission
46:16
is to elevate all relationships but specifically
46:21
the dominant male in your life and even clearly
46:28
the bull in the ethical non -monogamous space
46:30
but we want to do this for everyone and we have
46:33
some people that either i don't know well you
46:36
can tell me They're either learning from us and
46:39
executing with you or they are already vibing
46:43
and we're just kind of like, you know, they're
46:46
theme music behind what they're already doing.
46:49
But you have somebody that in your life like
46:51
that. So talk to me about San Diego Sam. Yeah,
46:56
that's what they call him. So San Diego Sam was
47:02
a referral, actually. from someone who hadn't
47:06
even played with him. But she said, I know of
47:09
him. I've talked to him a little bit because
47:12
I was going to the San Diego area. And so I looked
47:18
him up. I sent him a message. So I'm coming to
47:22
the area. Would you be interested in talking
47:24
a little bit and seeing about connecting for
47:27
play? Because I will typically go by myself.
47:30
Most of the time to San Diego, honestly. And,
47:33
you know, ask a couple guys to come see me while
47:37
I'm there. And, you know, go to the beach, eat
47:40
some lovely meals, sleep a lot, do some work,
47:44
whatever. Those are my little reset trips. Socrates
47:47
has his reset trips where he chooses not to play
47:50
at all. Mine is quite the opposite. I choose
47:55
to... Increase the amount of dick. Well, and,
47:59
like, lots of... But all I do is, like, exactly
48:03
what I want. You know what I mean? I don't have
48:05
to... Even the work stuff is, like, you know,
48:08
not that hard. So it's just two days of that.
48:13
Just, like, two or three days of just... That's
48:17
also what Splash does, too. You know, the outside
48:20
world just disappears for a couple days, and
48:22
it's so nice. Um, anyways, so, you know, this
48:29
was maybe my third, third or fourth trip out
48:34
to San Diego, maybe fifth since being in the
48:37
lifestyle. Um, cause I would always go a couple
48:40
of times a year anyways. Um, so I started talking
48:44
to San Diego Sam and I'm just really impressed
48:49
by his conversation skills because He never is
48:54
like, you know, W -Y -D or G -M or like there's
49:02
no lazy talk. I call that lazy talk with him.
49:09
He's, you know, he's engaged in what, you know,
49:13
he wants to talk to you about. And it's all over
49:16
the place. It's all different things. But one
49:18
thing is very clear. He's a married bull. um
49:21
how much he loves his wife and his his kids you
49:25
know and how important that is and how it's number
49:28
one and i love that because it reminds me of
49:30
you and what you say to people so i loved that
49:34
and we don't know if he you know he's a seasoned
49:38
bull so i assume that he had quite a bit of experience
49:42
but he also i told him about the bull brotherhood
49:46
podcast and before i met him and then he just
49:49
soaked it all up And he still contacts me like
49:53
most every episode and says something about it
49:56
and what he liked or whatever. He's constant
49:59
feedback about it. So then I plan the trip. I
50:07
get there. Someone else. He was going to pick
50:10
me up from the airport, but then he had something
50:13
happen so he couldn't come get me. And so but
50:17
he gave me like three days notice. I'm like usually
50:21
like people you know they kind of wait till oh
50:26
I'm so sorry and you know but he's like always
50:29
thinking ahead of like what's gonna happen and
50:32
how to prepare and how to take care of you you
50:35
know and I just was like that's so awesome that's
50:39
so awesome um you know because I think women
50:43
were he told me later that his he learned all
50:46
this from his wife and she said You cannot give
50:49
these women decision fatigue. Don't ask them
50:52
a bunch of questions. It's like ask like two
50:57
option things or just say, hey, we're going to
51:00
do this, this, this, and this. Is there any part
51:03
of that plan that you want to change? Is there
51:09
any part of that plan that you want to change?
51:13
San Diego Sam, I'm still in that brother. No,
51:16
actually. it's from me oh i like that yeah i'm
51:23
gonna use that yeah so because that is what attracted
51:26
me to black men in the first place is i had a
51:28
guy that said but i know i didn't use that word
51:31
i just changed that word because he said he would
51:35
say is there any part of that plan that you don't
51:37
like but then i changed it to is there any part
51:40
of this plan that you want to change because
51:42
that's even less decision fatigue right that's
51:46
just yes or no if they say yes then they better
51:50
have an answer you know then you're gonna get
51:52
a complication the plan is laid out but i have
51:54
a choice to change something so it's like sexy
51:59
because it's like commanding and like okay i
52:02
made this plan for you girlfriend and but if
52:06
there's anything you want to change you have
52:08
you know you have an option does that make sense
52:12
so ladies and gentlemen For me, a quality bull
52:19
is always either involved in or creating the
52:22
plan. A quality man, a quality leader. Now look,
52:27
cucks can do that as well. And that doesn't mean
52:30
you have to do that every time, right? Like the
52:33
couple might hit you up and be like, I have a
52:35
couple that I'm going to go visit pretty soon
52:37
here in a couple of weeks. And they contact Siren.
52:43
Siren tells me. Tells her all of my preferences.
52:47
If you ask me, I don't know why. I just grunt.
52:50
He's like Doritos and Gatorade. Yeah, I have
52:53
a lot of preferences. A lot of preferences. Straight
52:56
up. But it's weird if you ask me. Don't worry.
53:01
Come to me. I know. If you ask me, I'll be like,
53:03
I don't know. Doritos and Gatorade. No, I was
53:08
like, wife to wife, do you want to have a successful
53:11
experience? And she was like, yes. what do i
53:15
need to do to have a successful experience and
53:18
then i told her like all his snacks all his meal
53:20
preferences how he likes his coffee like you
53:23
know he needs this when he sleeps and like all
53:25
the things right and she was like so set up for
53:28
success by the time he got there she had it all
53:31
like set up but she asked and i was smart yeah
53:35
and she listened yeah you're gonna have great
53:38
couples like that but At the same time, I got
53:42
there because I had plans and because I was now
53:46
I'm still working on that. I'm still working
53:48
on. Here's what it is. We're doing this, this,
53:50
this. I'm ordering the food like I'm going to
53:52
get better. You know, but yeah, it is very, it's
53:57
very powerful. And now that I'm getting more
54:01
into kink. it that helps me because it gives
54:05
me a framework to think yeah it gives you some
54:07
stuff to do too because otherwise it's like oh
54:09
what do i do twist the nipple lick the pussy
54:12
like what do i do exactly yeah and i need i need
54:14
a framework and then once i have that framework
54:16
i can actually paint by the colors pretty well
54:20
i'm actually pretty good at it so um we got off
54:25
track san san diego sam yeah and the man with
54:29
the plan so yeah so that's why that's what first
54:33
attracted me to black men as they always seem
54:36
to like have a plan um and I was like this is
54:41
so great so San Diego Sam he always had a plan
54:45
or created it with me without me even thinking
54:48
about that I was creating a plan with him that's
54:51
another great thing about him is like he would
54:55
just like weave it into the conversation you
54:57
know like Oh, and, you know, there's a lovely
55:01
downtown in San Diego. You know, is that where
55:04
you prefer to stay? And find out where I was
55:07
staying, you know, because he's coming to see
55:09
me. It was after we agreed. You know, but without
55:11
being like, where are you staying? I never had
55:14
to give that man an address. Never. I'm like,
55:19
I'm staying here. He'd never ask again. and then
55:24
at the end he would at the when he right before
55:27
he came he would confirm it be like staying right
55:29
here right and i was like yes and he's like okay
55:32
he's like you're probably gonna have to come
55:34
down and get me because i'm assuming that that
55:37
hotel by my research uh you have to have a room
55:40
key to get upstairs i'm like oh yeah thank you
55:43
you know like just like one step ahead for everything
55:46
It's amazing. Unlike Socrates, y 'all, who I
55:49
need the motherfucking, I don't even care. You
55:52
can tell me the name. Go to such and such place
55:56
of business on this corner. No, nigga, I need
55:59
125 North, you know, this lane, Main Street,
56:06
zip code and sweet number, motherfucker. Like,
56:10
that's me. And what color is the door? Exactly.
56:14
Yeah, so, you know, that's what the lifestyle
56:17
is about, though. It's about being able to get
56:19
some things that are, you know, you don't have
56:23
a theme park in your backyard, but I got a hot
56:26
tub. You know, like, you get to experience different
56:29
things. So, and this, to me, is all part of the
56:34
experience of, like, leading. This is foreplay
56:37
to me. This is sexy, you know, like. being organized
56:42
having the plan you know um the more things just
56:47
add up you know because negative points to the
56:50
other guy who uh came and asked me for money
56:53
for the meter because he couldn't figure out
56:56
where to go to get change like no that guy is
57:01
like no and then you have san diego sam was the
57:06
second guy and he's just totally different right
57:10
so then he gets there whatever doesn't say shit
57:14
to me about parking like doesn't ask me where
57:17
to park doesn't say where's the best place you
57:20
know just figures it out like But I called his
57:25
wife and I was like, you are the fucking best
57:27
after the first time. And then I hurried up and
57:32
got back down there again because he was moving
57:34
out of the country. And so I hurried up and got
57:37
back down there a second time. And that's when
57:39
he told me all these things that he learned from
57:41
his wife. And I was like, I want to call her.
57:44
And I was like, thank you for teaching him all
57:46
these things. I was like, what else little Jules
57:48
can do? And his wife doesn't even play, right?
57:51
No, she's not lifestyle. She's not lifestyle.
57:52
No, she's monogamous by choice. And she, you
57:57
know, I talked to her about it, you know, because
57:58
I always verify if someone has a partner, you
58:01
know. And she's super sweet. And she's just in
58:06
this place in life right now where she, you know,
58:09
she's a mom. She's taking care of the kids. She's
58:12
doing that stuff. And she said, too, it takes
58:15
her a long time to establish a connection. enough
58:20
to have sex with someone so she's like it doesn't
58:24
make sense because a lot of lifestyle stuff is
58:27
moves a lot quicker than that and so she's like
58:30
i'm in the throes of motherhood my husband's
58:33
amazing you know so she's like i'm good so but
58:40
she's super nice um and she's always really appreciative
58:44
of me reaching out and then you know yeah he
58:47
just keeps up like you it's not like these people
58:51
that are like good morning how's your day you
58:54
know kind of and they touch base a lot he'll
58:56
touch base like i want to say like every two
59:00
weeks maybe but then we like have a full conversation
59:03
and then we're like okay glad you're doing well
59:07
and then we i know it's just like probably going
59:09
to be another two weeks so it's consistent but
59:12
it's like more of a bigger meal you know like
59:17
there's some guys is like snacks like every day
59:19
and then sandy was just a bigger meal we need
59:24
it all we need snacks we need meals and we need
59:28
a buffet you know so you just have all these
59:30
different things we need it all um and so for
59:34
his conversations and then two on the first time
59:37
he made sure he was like do you need food And
59:42
I was like, I saw him starving. I had this other
59:45
person. He was, did not really take care of me
59:47
that well in the other regards, you know? Um,
59:51
so San Diego Sam brings food. He brings a present
59:57
that is for you and me. And he's like, don't
1:00:00
open it till you get home with your husband.
1:00:02
It's for the two of you. Okay. This is why it's
1:00:07
like, okay, no shade. I love my single men too.
1:00:09
But like partnered guys are just like another
1:00:12
level. They just have these extra things. And
1:00:15
then he brought a bottle of wine for us too.
1:00:19
Which I sadly, I told him could not bring on
1:00:22
the plane. So I gave it to one of the other play
1:00:24
dates. But I took a picture of it because I was
1:00:27
like, this is so nice. So he brought a gift,
1:00:30
a bottle of wine, made sure I had food. Then
1:00:32
he. you know we have a great play time he's like
1:00:36
do you want pictures and videos he asked I'm
1:00:40
like yay yes I do and then he's like you have
1:00:43
a gorgeous ring he always comments on my ring
1:00:46
every time he's like oh your ring is so amazing
1:00:49
your husband has excellent taste you know just
1:00:51
like the woman behind it and you know he like
1:00:54
flatters me and compliments you right and then
1:00:57
when he's taking pictures and videos he always
1:01:00
makes sure and like get your ring He's like,
1:01:03
your husband's going to love these. Like he's
1:01:05
always like referring and like trying to let
1:01:09
you know how he's enhancing, you know, what you're
1:01:12
going to experience later when you tell your
1:01:15
husband about it, you know? So that's super cool.
1:01:18
I love that a lot. And then I, I tap out every
1:01:25
time I do not tap out. And then. somewhere in
1:01:32
there i fall asleep and he tucks me in and i
1:01:35
wake up and the room is clean and he so he always
1:01:38
not only picks up after himself but after whatever
1:01:42
the mayhem was that led up to the play and i
1:01:46
just think that's amazing and then he always
1:01:48
um even though we play have we always play have
1:01:52
played protected he still asked for my test results
1:01:55
and um showed me his before and after each time
1:02:00
like the next time he tests afterwards he always
1:02:03
like sends them to me again again not even prompted
1:02:06
this is just who he is this is just what he does
1:02:09
but he always talks about the bull brotherhood
1:02:12
too and he's he's always just like man that is
1:02:14
such good information i can't wait until i retire
1:02:17
in a few years because of his job he can't be
1:02:20
on podcasts and stuff right now but he really
1:02:22
wants to be like he can't wait until like he
1:02:25
can talk and be on the bull brotherhood So he's
1:02:30
just a good guy. And, you know, he's flirty,
1:02:33
but he doesn't get like too graphic. But I don't
1:02:39
know. I just I feel like he's respectful of his
1:02:42
wife the whole time. Like he makes it known that
1:02:45
he's attracted to you and he wants you and stuff
1:02:48
and references play. But I don't know. There's
1:02:51
just this underlying tone. And that reminds me
1:02:54
of you, too, of like. you always just know that
1:02:57
even when he's like doing these dirty, nasty
1:02:59
things to you, you still feel like his wife is
1:03:01
being respected. I don't know how he does that,
1:03:04
but like, it's just the energy. And I was like,
1:03:08
that's probably, I mean, I haven't like talked
1:03:11
to anybody specific of your play partners, but
1:03:13
I was like, that's, that's probably like kind
1:03:17
of similar to what they feel. So it's cool. And
1:03:20
then I just love touching base with his wife
1:03:22
every time. because I like that I like it when
1:03:25
women do that to me because I like to hear that
1:03:27
it went well and that they had a good time but
1:03:29
I stopped asking for it because it seemed to
1:03:32
make people uncomfortable so I was like okay
1:03:35
well if you feel like it though and you've played
1:03:37
with my husband and you want to give me the google
1:03:40
review I would love to hear it I love to to hear
1:03:43
how how it went for you because I always have
1:03:46
a great time You might want to just text them
1:03:49
ahead of time and say, you know what? Because
1:03:51
some women hate it. They don't want to hear anything.
1:03:55
I've tried that. It doesn't seem to work either
1:03:58
way. Well, it's not about working. It's about
1:04:00
saying, letting them know, this is where I'm
1:04:02
at. If they decide to use it, great. If they
1:04:06
decide to don't use it, then that's on them.
1:04:08
But anyway, I did want to say, fellas, specifically,
1:04:12
this is about Siren's perspective and everything.
1:04:16
And sometimes, you know, she really does not
1:04:18
like to talk about other women's perspectives
1:04:21
a lot, but she does have a lot. She has a lot
1:04:24
of great following, but she likes to kind of
1:04:26
keep it to the, you know, close to the vest.
1:04:29
And she also just doesn't like to speak for other
1:04:31
people. Yeah, I don't know. It's a struggle for
1:04:34
me because I feel like I have such a different,
1:04:37
I call myself a weird girl all the time. Like,
1:04:41
I have such a different perspective than most
1:04:43
of the women that I talk to. So sometimes it's
1:04:48
like, I don't want to say, you know. But most
1:04:53
of this was supposed to be about my perspective.
1:04:55
Yeah, and so that's what I was going to say.
1:04:57
My point is, like, fellas, really, if you're
1:04:59
interested in her, hit her up. The more you have
1:05:03
things planned out, the more you express clear
1:05:06
interest, she's going to be clear, and she's
1:05:09
one of the best at even rejecting. And you have
1:05:13
my permission. I'll give you my rejection line
1:05:14
right now. You know what? Somebody who's 100
1:05:19
% enthusiastic about playing with you is probably
1:05:24
right around the corner. And I'm not 100 % enthusiastic
1:05:27
about playing with you. So it would be wrong
1:05:30
to waste your time. Yeah. So, you know, hit her
1:05:35
up. If you ever see us in an event. come up to
1:05:39
us we're you know normal people we like to talk
1:05:41
we like to have these conversations and yeah
1:05:44
um so i think that's time is there anything else
1:05:48
you want to really talk about yeah let me let
1:05:50
me just wrap that up like guys if that sounded
1:05:52
like a lot of pressure like believe me i play
1:05:55
with the whole thing like zero to 100 sometimes
1:05:58
you know but i'm just saying That guy knows how
1:06:02
to make himself be set apart and he just happens
1:06:05
to have a whole bunch of the things going. So
1:06:10
don't feel like you have to have all of that
1:06:13
together all at once. As long as you're working
1:06:17
on yourself and working on your game plan and
1:06:20
working on everything and communicate that. I
1:06:23
love that. I love to hear like, yeah, I'm doing
1:06:25
this and this and I learned this from the Bull
1:06:27
Brotherhood. I want to do that. Like there will
1:06:29
be guys. I'll talk about things to them from
1:06:32
the Bull Brotherhood or things that my husband
1:06:34
talks about. And they'll say, oh, that's awesome.
1:06:36
Like, I'm going to use that, you know, or whatever.
1:06:39
So I love talking about that and bringing that
1:06:42
knowledge to you guys because I want to see you
1:06:45
grow and be better. You don't, I'm a great person
1:06:48
to like learn with on some things. So if there's
1:06:52
things that you want to practice of like, hey,
1:06:55
what do you think about this? You can come to
1:06:57
me and talk to me and send me a message about
1:06:59
it. And then I can also answer more specific
1:07:02
questions about what other women might think
1:07:05
about that. Or bring them to my ladies group
1:07:09
to talk about. Yeah, that's all I wanted to say.
1:07:14
Well, that's all we got, you guys. I also want
1:07:17
to... Siren talked about her telegram group.
1:07:21
In the future, we're going to create a Bull Brotherhood
1:07:24
telegram group. But for now... Mine is at Socrates
1:07:28
LS. So at Socrates LS. If you want to hit us
1:07:34
up and I'm going to look up Brian Morgan's here
1:07:37
real quick. I think it's just Brian Morgan, but
1:07:41
we can put in the show notes. We'll definitely
1:07:44
put in the show notes for sure. But that's all
1:07:50
we got. Yeah, we will see you later. Bye. This
1:08:08
brotherhood's for men whose stories need to be
1:08:10
told. This brotherhood's for men whose stories
1:08:14
need to be told. Say it loud. Say it loud. This
1:08:19
is who we are, bold, confident, and seductive.
1:08:23
Dominant and classy, we're standing tall, never
1:08:26
fall. Bull Brotherhood, luxury untold.