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The Pass-Fans (w/ Jeff Passan) · Stugotz and Company

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that Uh, Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex.
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  Speaker 2: The rex was not chasing the jeep.
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  Speaker 1: Murray, Murray, you there. You love sandwiches. Huh, Let's go
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  Speaker 1: to uh eighty.
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  Speaker 3: It was bo wow that Prime Time. Maybe I had
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  Speaker 3: a crush on Betty Rubble.
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  Speaker 1: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went
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  Speaker 1: to commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman was black.
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  Speaker 3: He caught them the game last night, although they won
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  Speaker 3: the game. You're listening to Stucatsen Company.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Passion has turned into a fucking superstar, and he's
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  Speaker 1: also turned into a bit of a diva because right
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  Speaker 1: before we started recording, he was complaining. I was complimenting him, saying,
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  Speaker 1: you're a fucking superstar because he's a superstar. He's on
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  Speaker 1: mcavee all the time, he's on CNN. He has crossed over.
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  Speaker 3: But now he's a diva.
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  Speaker 1: It's all getting to his head because he was complaining
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  Speaker 1: about the hotel that he's staying in right now in
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  Speaker 1: South Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Let me, I was not complaining. I was not complaining.
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  Speaker 4: I was I was merely pointing out the fact that
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  Speaker 4: when you walk into this hotel.
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  Speaker 2: You feel like there have been murders here. I don't.
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  Speaker 4: And here's the thing, Like, when I'm traveling by myself,
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  Speaker 4: I'm just by myself. I don't need a nice I
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  Speaker 4: need I need a bed, I need a shower, my
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  Speaker 4: one DVA thing. And this is this is a little
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  Speaker 4: embarrassing to admit, but I you know it's it's a
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  Speaker 4: h John.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't care.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: And I need a blow dryer, No you at all.
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  Speaker 2: But I here's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: I went on TV one too many times and my
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  Speaker 4: mom said to my mom's like, Jeffrey, your hair looks greasy.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh shit, all right, so how do I
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  Speaker 4: how do I combat that?
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  Speaker 2: But I'm telling you, man, when I walked into this place,
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  Speaker 2: I just got a really bad vibe.
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  Speaker 4: And I was trying like I got the least expensive
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  Speaker 4: hotel on ESPN's like travel site. And I was like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'm doing the company a favor. I don't
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  Speaker 4: need to say anywhere nice. I don't need to get
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  Speaker 4: upgraded to a sweet or anything like that. I could
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  Speaker 4: just you know, give me a king bed, and give
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  Speaker 4: me a mini fridge, and give me a blow dryer
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  Speaker 4: and I'm good to go. And dude, I walk in
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  Speaker 4: here and it just reeked of sadness. Like I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if it was like a pheromone thing or if
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  Speaker 4: if I just have like this intuition about where crimes
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  Speaker 4: have happened.
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  Speaker 2: But definitely a dead body has been taking that.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, you're in my I mean, there's a fifty to
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  Speaker 1: fifty shot any hotel room you're stay in there's been
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  Speaker 1: a murder. Oh so good. How often does mom call
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  Speaker 1: and critique your segments?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Mom loves my segments.
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  Speaker 4: Mom's so happy, like she's she's the best. And and
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  Speaker 4: so you know, she like, you know what Jewish guilt
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  Speaker 4: is like? And and Mom, oh yes I do, Yes,
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  Speaker 4: you do, and and mom moms saying you know, like
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  Speaker 4: could you tell me when you're on TV?
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  Speaker 2: Like I enjoy watching you. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 4: And normally it's it's positive. Normally she's like, that was
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  Speaker 4: a that was a really good segment. You did a
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  Speaker 4: good job. I was like, thanks, Mom, I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 4: And so she just the fact that the fact that
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  Speaker 4: she she takes joy in that.
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  Speaker 2: It's always good.
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  Speaker 4: As a kid to deliver a bit of happiness to
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  Speaker 4: your parents, So no time you can do that.
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  Speaker 2: Any of us take advantage of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, the best.
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  Speaker 1: So no blow dryer in the room, so that's, uh,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's problematic for you.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, there's a blow there's a blow drying here.
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  Speaker 4: And I would have called down and asked. I'll say this,
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  Speaker 4: there's no iron in here. There's a there's a steamer though,
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  Speaker 4: and and I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't feel great about the steamer.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, it doesn't doesn't make it as crisp as the
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  Speaker 4: iron does.
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  Speaker 2: God damn it, I'm a diva. Holy shit, I'm how
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  Speaker 2: do I just learn this in real time?
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  Speaker 4: I'm talking about steamers versus irons blow dryers.
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  Speaker 2: And I did stay at a hotel.
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  Speaker 4: Last week that had bath sheets instead of towels, And
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  Speaker 4: as I was wrapping this bass sheet around myself, I
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  Speaker 4: was like, boy, a great hotel room.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess you know good?
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  Speaker 4: All right, Well I'm cooked the rest of the time. Now,
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  Speaker 4: what do you want to talk about?
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  Speaker 1: Well, listen, I want to talk some baseball with you,
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  Speaker 1: perhaps some March madness, but uh, you're a big store
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  Speaker 1: at ESPN. I have scrolled through the hotel options when
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  Speaker 1: I traveled with ESPN choose a better option.
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  Speaker 3: What's the matter with you? There were good options on there.
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  Speaker 3: Make them spend money?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I know, yeah, I could.
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  Speaker 4: I could, but there's a there's a devoted travel budget
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  Speaker 4: every department has. I don't want the fact that I'm
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  Speaker 4: staying in nicer hotels to include one of my teammates
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  Speaker 4: from potentially pursuing a story that might be good, or
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  Speaker 4: might be interesting, or might be better for the site.
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  Speaker 4: So if I can stay in the murder hotel and
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  Speaker 4: they get to write their story, all good.
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  Speaker 2: That works for me.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, the Jay and Jeff passion, Jeff passion, I call
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  Speaker 1: them passion at the minimum should be JW.
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  Speaker 3: Marriot. It should stand for JW.
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  Speaker 2: Marriott.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, what are you doing? Man? You're a
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  Speaker 3: store anyway.
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  Speaker 4: I'll say this though, on the subject of hotels, I
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  Speaker 4: am I am something of a married or and I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if you know this.
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  Speaker 2: But really Marriott, yeah, Marriott.
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  Speaker 4: Marriott keeps track of lifetime nights staid in their properties.
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  Speaker 2: Huh what do you what do you think my number is?
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  Speaker 3: Wow?
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  Speaker 1: Lifetime nights the amount of nights Jeff Passing has spent
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  Speaker 1: at a Marriotte Hotel. This is exactly what I want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about. By the way, thank you for taking
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  Speaker 1: me here. What do you guys imagine? Let's take a
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  Speaker 1: guess here, Mike Yea, you want to take a guess here,
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  Speaker 1: I'll go mikey A first, Taylor, second, me third, go ahead,
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  Speaker 1: Mike ye I'm gonna.
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  Speaker 5: Go very low, triple digits, like one oh.
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  Speaker 6: Five, wow, one o five, go ahead to I'm gonna
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  Speaker 6: guess seven thousand.
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  Speaker 3: Really, I'm gonna do it like, uh well, one right, right.
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  Speaker 3: His entire life has been in a Marriotte.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna do prices right and go seven thousand
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  Speaker 1: and one, but that's ridiculous. I have to split the
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  Speaker 1: difference here. I'm going to say, like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: twenty five hundred.
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  Speaker 4: Nights, okay, that's honestly, like, if you factor in nights
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  Speaker 4: on the road and in other hotels, it is probably
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  Speaker 4: around twenty five hundred. But in Marriouts alone, right before
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  Speaker 4: I checked into the Murder Hotel, eighteen hundred on the dot.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Congratulations, yeah that is I mean that is quite literally
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  Speaker 1: five years of my life.
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  Speaker 4: In Marriouts, five full ass years in these hotels.
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  Speaker 2: So one would think I could at least get n
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  Speaker 2: upgrade to.
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  Speaker 3: The room to not be in a murder hotel.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, you know the mini fridge in
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  Speaker 2: this room.
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  Speaker 4: You know when the mini fridge gets like the frost
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  Speaker 4: on it and you know that there's a leak somewhere
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  Speaker 4: in it. Yeah, yeah, we got we got a frosty
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  Speaker 4: fridge here. It's it's not ideal I'm looking for I'm
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  Speaker 4: check it out tomorrow. I'm looking forward to that check.
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  Speaker 3: There's someone's head in that frish severed head.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff, I wanted to ask you, man, the World Baseball
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  Speaker 1: Classic has been so much fun. Why do you think
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  Speaker 1: the players and the fans love this thing so much?
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  Speaker 3: Man? It's incredible.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think I think it comes down to nationalism, honestly,
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  Speaker 4: and like the good kind of nationalism.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the kind.
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  Speaker 7: Where you take pride in not necessarily the country you're from,
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  Speaker 7: not necessarily the flag itself, you take pride.
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  Speaker 4: In the base in this case, in the baseball culture
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  Speaker 4: that comes from that country. And that's why I think
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  Speaker 4: the WBC has been such a smash lately. It took
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  Speaker 4: a decade and a half to before it got here
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  Speaker 4: like this has been an event that's been around since
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  Speaker 4: two thousand and six. But I think people are starting
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  Speaker 4: to recognize that, hey, there are different baseball cultures everywhere
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  Speaker 4: in the world. The Dominican Republic is its own unique culture.
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  Speaker 4: Venezuela is its own unique culture. Japan, the United States,
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  Speaker 4: Puerto Rico, we can go on and on and beyond that.
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  Speaker 4: Some of the countries that are in it now are
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  Speaker 4: building cultures right Like look at Italy. Italy is such
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  Speaker 4: an interesting story to me because they're Americans. Pretty much
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  Speaker 4: like there were a couple of Venezuelans of Italian descent there,
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  Speaker 4: I think a Canadian. There are three, I believe like
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  Speaker 4: natural born Italians on there, and like twenty three Americans.
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  Speaker 4: But the Italian American baseball culture is not any different
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  Speaker 4: from the American baseball culture. And yet they understand that
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  Speaker 4: people back in Italy now starting to watch baseball and
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  Speaker 4: that they have the privilege of representing this country that's
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  Speaker 4: just starting on its baseball journey. And I love that.
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  Speaker 4: I love not knowing where it's going to go because
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  Speaker 4: it allows you to build something organically. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: they're leaning into stereotypes, They're leaning into the espresso shots
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  Speaker 4: for home runs and they're leaning into giving out bottles
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  Speaker 4: of wine to the players of the game, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: they're going like this, like all the American Italian stuff
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  Speaker 4: that would you would think they're fully on board with,
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  Speaker 4: but they're having fun playing baseball and they're doing it
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  Speaker 4: with people who grew up in very similar homes to them.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they all had knownahs, they all have their
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  Speaker 4: own Sunday gravy, they all have these things that bring
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  Speaker 4: them together, and then you go out and translate that onto.
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  Speaker 2: The baseball field.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: I was talking with somebody who's involved with the Italian
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  Speaker 4: team and he said, this is the purest form of
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  Speaker 4: baseball that I've ever been around. Nobody's getting paid to
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  Speaker 4: do this. We're just doing it for love of the
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  Speaker 4: game and for love of our heritage, and like, what
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  Speaker 4: can be better than that when you feel like you
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  Speaker 4: can positively represent where you came from, where your ancestors
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  Speaker 4: came from, coming to this country and trying to find
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  Speaker 4: a better life, and it turns out they did find
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  Speaker 4: a better life, and that better life is yours.
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  Speaker 2: You're just paying it back to them and hoping that.
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  Speaker 4: You can see a generation of kids who while they
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  Speaker 4: are reared in soccer and in basketball, and in so
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  Speaker 4: many of the sports that really take over Europe. Baseball
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  Speaker 4: has place there too, And if twenty years down the
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  Speaker 4: road we have more Italian players coming over, it would
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  Speaker 4: not shock me in the least.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, do you think Major League Baseball is taking notes
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  Speaker 1: or is this thing impossible to replicate with inside of
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  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball season?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I think it's possible to replicate, but I
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  Speaker 4: think it's impossible to do so on a large scale.
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  Speaker 4: I think the replication could come through individual teams. I'm
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  Speaker 4: not advocating that the Miami Marlins go out and sign
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  Speaker 4: all the Minica players, but I'm kind of advocating that
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  Speaker 4: the Miami Marlins go out and sign all the Medican players, because,
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  Speaker 4: like dude, the atmosphere at like Lone Depot Park starting
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  Speaker 4: on March twenty seventh and through the end of October,
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be nothing like this.
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  Speaker 2: We just won't see that.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, I think there are areas where baseball
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  Speaker 4: could do a lot better in embracing Latin American baseball
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  Speaker 4: culture and the idea that you know, Francisco Savelli, the
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  Speaker 4: manager for Team Italy, He's from Venezuela. He you know,
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  Speaker 4: he's played winter ball. He knows everything about it. He said,
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  Speaker 4: this is this is winter Ball in March. It doesn't
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  Speaker 4: just have to be in March, though, Like every every
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  Speaker 4: organization and should have nights where they invite the Latin
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  Speaker 4: community to come out and bring them in and try
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  Speaker 4: and integrate them into the one hundred and sixty two
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  Speaker 4: games and tell players essentially not just players from Latin America,
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  Speaker 4: but players from the United States that this is part
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  Speaker 4: of who we are. This is part of our game,
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  Speaker 4: and we don't just need to appreciate this, we need
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  Speaker 4: to embrace it, we need to integrate it, because, honestly, dude,
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  Speaker 4: it's like the best part the reason that these games
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  Speaker 4: have been as fun as they are, beyond the quality
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  Speaker 4: of the ball itself, is just seeing how into it
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  Speaker 4: the players are. Yes, they are, and you see those
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  Speaker 4: individual cultures come out in real time, and it's a
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  Speaker 4: beautiful thing to witness.
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  Speaker 6: Jeff I was at the game to root on Italy.
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  Speaker 6: The crowd was to be fair, probably ninety five percent
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  Speaker 6: Venezuelan last night. But my problem with the World Baseball
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  Speaker 6: Classic they played one Italian song all night. Every other
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  Speaker 6: song was Hispanic. I kind of felt like that took
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  Speaker 6: our crowd out of it.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff, Yeah, I mean it seems it seems a proper
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  Speaker 4: ratio of fans to music, Like if it's ninety five
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  Speaker 4: to five and it's like nineteam to one, like Taylor,
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  Speaker 4: the Matt kind of checks. I hate to say it, sorry,
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  Speaker 4: like you got to play to your crowd. And that
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  Speaker 4: was a Venezuelan home game, and I think the final,
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  Speaker 4: it's not going to be a complete home game, but
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  Speaker 4: I think Venezuelans are going to strongly outnumber American fans there.
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  Speaker 4: And I know Team USA is feeling like this is
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  Speaker 4: going to be a road game for them.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight on their home, you know, on their country's turf.
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  Speaker 1: No less, what do you say to guys like Taylor
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  Speaker 1: who can't root for Roman Anthony because he's a Yankee
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  Speaker 1: fan and refuses to root for a Red Sox even
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  Speaker 1: though it helps Team US A.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's where your loyalty lies. That's a that's a
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  Speaker 4: very it's a very fair question. And there are some
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  Speaker 4: people who their loyalty is with their country. I you know,
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  Speaker 4: I have friends who are fans of individual teams and
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't make a damn bit of difference. If the
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  Speaker 4: Dominican Republic is playing, that's who they are rooting for.
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  Speaker 4: That's where their soul is. But some people's souls are
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  Speaker 4: with their their hometown teams, and that's okay too. I
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  Speaker 4: never want to tell someone Stu how to fan, right,
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  Speaker 4: you fan the way that you want to fan. As
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  Speaker 4: long as you're watching, as long as you're enjoying sports,
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  Speaker 4: then it's serving a purpose for you in your life.
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  Speaker 2: And I love that.
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  Speaker 4: That's what sports can provide people, not just a respite
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  Speaker 4: from everyday issues, but something that they feel like that
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  Speaker 4: they can invest.
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  Speaker 2: In and that they have passioned about.
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  Speaker 4: Dude, we as we get older, like I mean, things
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  Speaker 4: that you can really like lean into. Is this is
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  Speaker 4: an integral part of my life, that this is like
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  Speaker 4: part of my identity. I think those become fewer and
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  Speaker 4: farther between. So if somebody wants to root for the
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  Speaker 4: Yankees over their home country, be my guest. But if
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  Speaker 4: someone says I'm a Team USA fan, and even though
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  Speaker 4: Roman Anthony is a redstock and I'm a Yankees fan,
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  Speaker 4: I'm still gonna be cheering him on.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, good for you. Do your thing, you don't.
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  Speaker 5: You don't have to, Jeff, I will Taylor grow up
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  Speaker 5: and be an American?
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  Speaker 4: Right? Uh?
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  Speaker 3: Speaking, he is, he's rooting for Team Italy. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: grow up and be an American? All right?
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  Speaker 5: Speaking of American and national pride? What do you make
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  Speaker 5: of the hate school bl is getting considering how he
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  Speaker 5: is no longer pitching because he wants to focus on Detroit,
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  Speaker 5: because I maintained there's really only one way for him
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  Speaker 5: to sort of win win back the good graces of
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  Speaker 5: the people the United States, and that's basically when they
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  Speaker 5: take the field tonight, he walks out onto the and
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  Speaker 5: takes the mound because yeah, they do a wrestling thing
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  Speaker 5: where they play that school both music.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, but past is about to tell you that's not
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  Speaker 3: going to happen. So oh, I'm sure it's not going
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  Speaker 3: to happen.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's here, like he's in Miami. He drove to,
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  Speaker 4: he drove to, he drove down from. Okay, can I
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  Speaker 4: just say yes, good Mike, if you had the opportunity
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  Speaker 4: to make four hundred million dollars and the difference between
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  Speaker 4: you making four hundred million and you making I mean,
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  Speaker 4: if you know, God forbid, he gets hurt like he
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  Speaker 4: would sign a one year contract and then go back
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  Speaker 4: out on the market. But point being, when you have
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  Speaker 4: four hundred million dollars sitting in front of you, and
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  Speaker 4: beyond that, when you have told the organization that you
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  Speaker 4: work for you're going to do this, this, and this,
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  Speaker 4: and they set up all of their plans for all
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  Speaker 4: of the other pitchers on their team around your schedule,
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  Speaker 4: is it not like an inherently selfish thing to do
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  Speaker 4: to say, I'm having such a good time here, guys,
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  Speaker 4: let's fuck up everyone else's program in pursuit of this.
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  Speaker 4: So you have, like, you have two things that I
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  Speaker 4: think are kind of compelling in Trek Schoopl's case. Now,
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  Speaker 4: if you want to argue he never should have participated
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  Speaker 4: in the first place, then then that's that's fine. But
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I don't look at a guy wanting to
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  Speaker 4: represent his country in the way that he is best
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: capable of doing is anything but a positive. He wants
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: to be part of something that could be really special,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: and sometimes you're limited in your ability to be part
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: of something, but that doesn't lessen the desire you have
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: for it. It doesn't make you a lesser person for
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: understanding that there are different priorities in life, and you
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: have to weigh out your priorities, and if someone else's
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: priorities are different than yours, is well, honestly, what the
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: hell do you know?
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: Like?
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Why is anyone in a position to tell Tarek Scooble
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: how he should be thinking right now or how he
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: should be approaching his life? You think he hasn't sat
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: there thinking this through, grinding and over in his mind
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: for days, for weeks, for months.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: About how this thing's going to land.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: And look, we all make bad decisions sometimes, we all
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: make mistakes. We all look back with regret on them.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: But man, I just have a difficult time looking at
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: a guy who wants everything and questioning him for it,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: because that's what he wants. He wanted to taste of
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: the WBC, he wants to be a good teammate to
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: the guys he's going to spend one hundred and sixty
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: two with, and he wants to get his bag. And
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: who among us hasn't wanted to have at least a
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: little piece of everything. To shit on someone for doing that,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: I think is so shortsighted and so like blinks, such
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: blinkered thinking. And you know, if Derek Scooper were a dick,
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: maybe it would be a different story. But like he's
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: as good of a guy and as good of a
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: teammate as you're gonna find. And so I just I
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: can't join in this parade by all means you are
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: entitled to your opinion.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're just wrong, right, You're just wrong.
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: I would say, I would just say this. I tell
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: my my my children, my young children all the time.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Can't always get what you want.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: I get that you want to be part of it,
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: and I get that you want to make your money
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: and do all that.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: You got to pick one you're going to sacrifice somewhere, yes.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Mike, But Mike, but Mike, he did get what he wants.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Yes, well, because he's that you can't get all that
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: and the love. You can't get all of that and
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: the love.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, And you know what, I think it says
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: something about him that he's willing to sacrifice love for
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: the pursuit of the things that are important to him.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Is that not what all of us would do?
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: There, Like if the if the public saying things about us,
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: but if we feel convicted in our decisions, then you know,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: that that's what athletes do, athletes and tune us out.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Well most of them can, some of them not not
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: so good at that.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: But but I think trek school is going to be
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: just fine right now.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Well, the problem is he gave us a taste, and
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: everyone knows how talented he is, and now everyone wants
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: to win this thing, Jeff, and so they want more
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: school ball. I mean, listen, he's not Paul Skiings. You
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: know what the p and Paul stands for patriot. I mean,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: that's what you do. You go out there, you throw it.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: You don't worry about contracts. You go out there, you
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: throw it for the love of game and the love
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: of country. I don't mind telling people what they should
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: do with their careers.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: How about that.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm shocked to hear them.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, you have, you have, indeed made a career
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: telling people what's right and wrong for them.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: So maybe I'm the wrong guy to be.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: I might just I might just.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Be the other side of the same Jewish coin. Like
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: it's great, it's perfect.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Now, your job is to be responsible, to be a journalist,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: and my job is to be a gas bag and
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: tell people how to live in.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: God.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: Jeff if you could take one person from the World
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: Baseball Classic and put them on a contender for this season,
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: who would you pick?
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Oh? Good question, hmm, very good, Like can I take
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Show Hao time?
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: I think he's yes, yeah, you're saying oh, you're saying
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: like a non.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah you want you to say Junior Camanaro.
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: I think I feel bad that Junior Camonaro has to
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: go back to Tampa Bay after this, Right, it's a letdown.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, I yeah, I get that. I mean, I don't know,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, the Rays are in a really tough.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: Division, and I would love to see Junior and Caventaro
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: playing out that we're baseball. I mean, the easy answer
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: is Paul Skeans. But I think Pittsburgh might be good
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: this year. Like Pittsburgh's rotation is nasty. I don't know.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: If you guys have seen Bubba Chandler fast fall up
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: to one hundred, filthy, change up, good breaking stuff.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: You know they have Brax and Ashcraft.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Who is very good as schemes at the top of
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: the rotation, Jared Jones coming back, like the Pirates have
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: a chance, and especially I think if Connor Griffin it
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: shorts up is as good as as we all think
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: he's gonna be like the Pirates have a chance to
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: make some noise this year. So yeah, I think I
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: think Kemonaro is a decent answer. I mean, I think
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: the Royals are going to contend. But the Royals have
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: like won the WBC, you know, between Bobby Witt playing
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: like he has, Vinnie pas Quentino is the captain of
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Team Italy hitting three homers in the game, Jack cagleone,
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: and on Venezuela, the captain of Venezuela, Salvador Perez, their
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: catcher mikel Garcia, their third basement. Like, the Royals have
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: had a good WBC and will be interesting to see
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: just how much like this translates into the season. Like
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: that's always a fascinating thing to keep an eye on.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: Who takes the WBC momentum and actually moves it forward
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: in the MLB?
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Are you surprised, Jeff that the United States is such
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: an overwhelming favorite tonight?
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: No, because of a couple of things.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: Number One, I think they had the better starting pitcher
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: with Nolan McClain compared to Eduardo Rodriguez. Number Two, you
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: look at their lineup, I know the US really hasn't
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: hit much this tournament, but still the names of the names,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: the pedigrees are the pedigrees. But on top of that,
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: the US's bullpen is rested and good, and Venezuela's bullpen
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: had to throw seven to two thirds innings last night
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: after cater Montero didn't get very deep into his start,
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: and it's gonna be tough on Omar Lopez. Venezuela was
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: manager to try and figure that thing out. But I
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: give Venezuela credit. Like they were trailing an Italian team
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: that hadn't lost the game in the WBC and seventh
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: inning comes around two outs, single single, single, single, Like
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: they're not trying to hit home runs. They're just trying
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: to get the blonde play and hit it hard. And Venezuela,
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: top to the bottom of that lineup capable of doing that.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Roman Anthony is he a top ten player in Major
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: League Baseball already?
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Not yet. I think he's going to get there pretty soon, though.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Right is Like that's a chance to be an all
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: time right, yes.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Look he's twenty one, man, like, I think he's got
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: a chance. I hate saddling guys with this young in
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: their career. Roman Anthony has a chance to be a
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Hall of Famer, Like, that's how talented he is. And
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: we have no idea how he's going to age, We
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: have no idea you know, health going forward.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: But just in terms of tools.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: And mentality, he's about as good of a young players
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: you're going to find in baseball right now.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm very nervous about this, Jeff, because Taylor
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: has an issue with something that you wrote. I will
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: leave it to Taylor to explain that to you. Good luck, Taylor,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: go ahead.
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: So, Jeff, first off, I read all your articles. I
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: consider myself. I was between a pass stan or a
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: past fan. Which one do you prefer?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Neither?
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: How about a pass night.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: We got to do better, fellas.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: We will do better, I promise you. So it was you.
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: It was your article where for each team you gave
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: fantasy baseball advice for said team.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Your advice for the Yankees, he knows.
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: His advice for the Yankees was, hey, try to get
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: Aaron Judges.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So so can I can I walk you
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: through like the mechanics of how this works?
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Please?
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: When I When I'm doing these capsules for every team,
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: there are just certain guys whose names I feel like
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: I have to get in there because I have to
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: say something about them, and the other two categories. For
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: the Yankees, I had better fits, and I not Taylor.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Did I not acknowledge the absurdity of saying go for
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Aaron Judge. This was more informed by a my fantasy league,
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: which is an auction league. And I look at auction
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: leagues as like pay as much as you need to
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: to get Aaron Judge. So perhaps it was a little
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: bit of a niche like fantasy advice. And I acknowledge
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: it wasn't the best look. It wasn't my finest work
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: by any means, and I do deserve to get called
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: out on.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: It, just as you did for a past fan and.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Past fanses like we're workshopping those.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: You know, it was terrible. But I do understand his outrage.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: It seems like you mailed that one age yet it does.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I mean I understand what he said.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: No, that's reasonable, yes, And I mean I didn't look
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: at it like I was mailing it in like it
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: was an active choice to get Aaron Judge in there,
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: because I feel like if you talk about the twenty
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: twenty six Yankees without talking about Aaron Judge, you're not
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: necessarily doing the best, and I think like their season
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: hinges on others more than it does. Well, now it
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: probably doesn't. I probably should have just put him in
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: that category. Sorry, guys, Thank you, thank you Taylor for
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: call me out of that. I'll make sure next year
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: not to give advice and get Aaron jen and fantasy next.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you for acknowledging that. We acknowledge our nickname stank.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: We will work on it better. We will work on
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: something more better than what was presented to you. Just
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: looking at Major League Baseball, looking at the season, the
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: upcoming season, Jeff, because I think we're all caught up
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: in the World Baseball Classic.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: We forget.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, there's a Major League Baseball season to be played,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: and it's going to be played very soon. The second
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: best team in the non Dodger Division, the team most likely,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: which is all the other teams, the team most likely
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: to win the World Series if it's not the La Dodgers.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Wow, it's uh.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Let's guys, let's not forget.
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: The Mariners got to Game seven of the ALCS against
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: the Blue Jays last year, and the blue Jays took
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: the Dodgers to Game seven of the World Series, so
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know that I'm entirely going out on a
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: limb here. They added Brendon Donovan this offseason. Their rotation
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: with Brian wu and Logan Gilbert, George Kirby, Luis Cassio
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: like it. It is a very good and very deep rotation,
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: especially if Bryce Miller gets healthy. He's got two extra
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: miles on his fastball. This spring looks good. Bullpen's been
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: tightened up, and they brought Joshnaylor back. Cal Rowley runner
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: up in the MVP, Julio Rodriguez awesome, Randy Rose Arena
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: always consistent. They've got a tremendous minor league system, and
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: a couple of those guys could graduate this year.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Like that, it's I.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: Mean, it's a really, really talented baseball team, and at
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, I am always betting on
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: talent other teams that could.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I like the Yankees a lot.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: I know they're sort of running it back, and same
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: with the Phillies, but they're running back like ninety five
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: plus win teams. There are worse things to do than
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: to have a team that was excellent and say you know,
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: let's try that again and listen. Baseball fans can can
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: be a little bit spoiled because there's so much movement
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: in the off season and so many.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Players who are available that it's like we go out
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: and get some of that.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, I think season
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: moves or off season overhauls can be a little bit
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: overrated just because you have no idea how bringing a
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: bunch of new players in they're gonna mesh with the
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: culture there, and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: So if I see something that has been proven to work,
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: I'm usually going to lean in that direction.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: We'll get you out here in just a second. Have
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: you filled out your NCAA tournament bracket yet?
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Have you done that? Do you have a final four yet?
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: No? I have literally no idea.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: If you ask me who the one seeds are, I
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: could tell you Duke.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Right, because you're guessing, and you're the way well better
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: than fifty percent of the time.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: He's going to be right if he guesses Duke. So yes, yeah,
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: I got nothing else.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Wait, so are you expecting if Team USA pulls this
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: off tonight? Are we expecting a party into the wee hours?
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: In South Beach tonight and will Jeff pass and be
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: following the team around if indeed that happens.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: If I didn't have an eight o'clock flow to Phoenix
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: tomorrow morning, I one hundred percent would be out there
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: like after championships, like going to the party and and
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: just like observing it all. Some of the best reporting
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: that I get comes from like when a team wins,
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: and not just because like they've been drinking and they
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: talk a lot, but you you know, you see, you
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: see when people win something together.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: You see like where the real love is.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Because when you're when you're celebrating something that's as meaningful
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: as a championship, even for like a tournament like the
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: WBC that's been around only twenty years and the tournament
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: itself alf is less than two weeks, Like there's still
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: bonds that get formed, and that's where the best stories
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: come from. Like that's that's the human stuff that I
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: got into this business frankly to write about. And you
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: don't really see it better than when people win championships.
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: If they partied so hard when they thought they advanced, Jeff,
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: I can't wait to see when they win a championship.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Don't disagree. But is South Beach this team scene?
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: No? I mean.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I think yes, Scottsdale, right, Venezuela, it's perfect.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, is Tim gonna show up at eleven?
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: No?
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: No, but Venezuela will, Jeff. We appreciate it. We know
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: it's a busy time for you. Thank you, you're a superstar.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: And stay safe in that hotel.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna do my best. I hope there's no
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: chalk outline of me tomorrow, fellas if so, r I.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: P all right, man, We're sorry to have upset you
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: with the with the fantasy question.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: It feels it feels like, no, I'm not my question
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: upset him? Yeah, no it was.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: No, it was the right thing to call me out.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Dude.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Am I ever actually upset?
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: No?
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Never, No, I've never seen you upset. I did see
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: you on CNN, and I was very thrilled to see that.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was well? Did you I mean
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: did you see the end?
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: He did not tell me he was going to say
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: something like, uh, yeah, your mom watches CNN.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Do you want to say anything to her?
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: And I should have been like, fuck you, mom, traumatize
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: me as a child.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: No, it was. It was very awkward. I was like, hi, Mom,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I made it to CNN, which is such a thing
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: to say. I just yeah, I fumbled.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: That one a little bit, but fuck you mom is
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: not what you Yeah, I probably should have done that.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: It would have been.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Great if you did that. Jeff, we appreciate it. Enjoy
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: the game tonight. Safe travels out to Arizona. You are
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: the best man. We appreciate it.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Thank you boys, great talking, see you, Assume