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- 0:08[SPEAKER_02]: You are listening to the Indie Car Report with Elijah Poe, and it's only on the central Indiana Sports Report.
- 0:15[SPEAKER_02]: Today, Elijah and I are joined by Dave Chandley to discuss the final race of the season I was going to take off.
- 0:22[SPEAKER_02]: The latest news and what's ahead in the Indie Car series.
- 0:25[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Indie Car Report with Elijah Poe.
- 0:28[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Elijah Poe joined here with Greg and Dave Chandley, recapping sadly the final race.
- 0:34[SPEAKER_01]: of the indie car season at Laguna Saka, I was taken by, I think, a fan favorite, and I like the seem and victory lane of Scotty Max, caught my golf and taking first place and just overall, what a finale to see indie car closed out, I would say one of their most successful seasons in recent memory.
- 0:53[SPEAKER_00]: I absolutely agree.
- 0:54[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing but positive this year for the most part.
- 0:58[SPEAKER_00]: I would say tremendous, tremendous season of your ship way up.
- 1:04[SPEAKER_00]: Fox has a lot to do with it, and the best 500 ever, and the Washington race.
- 1:12[SPEAKER_00]: And it's Scotty Mack, let's just say, wow, none of us mentioned Scotty Mack last week to win this race.
- 1:19[SPEAKER_00]: He not only took the pole,
- 1:23[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's a reason, Dave.
- 1:25[SPEAKER_02]: It's because for two years now, Pinsky hasn't been very good on road courses, and I think that's a pretty big development that will happen there.
- 1:32[SPEAKER_02]: Because like you said, not only did he win the poll, not only did he win the race, he had the best car the whole weekend, and it's been two years since Pinsky could say that in a road course, and that's a big deal for them.
- 1:45[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think, you know, when you look at what Team Pinsky has, you know, new gardens going to be good on the ovals, and you know Malucas is going to be good on the ovals, but if you're talking about maybe the best overall driver on that team, it's hard not to say Scott McLaughlin, you know.
- 2:01[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, New Garden has won a championship before, but New Garden, I mean, McLaughlin is still relatively new to IndyCar.
- 2:08[SPEAKER_01]: He's been in it for three, four years now, but still has a lot of room to grow and great to see him in victory lane and just control that whole race, which is hard to do with Kyle Kirkwood, chopping out the bits.
- 2:21[SPEAKER_00]: I think Scotty Mac is a great driver, but I will say I'm not going to disagree with it because he's good.
- 2:26[SPEAKER_00]: He might be the best of the three right now, but David Malukus is going to be.
- 2:32[SPEAKER_00]: And he will definitely get better on road course.
- 2:35[SPEAKER_00]: So he's finished fifth and he finished fifth in the standings.
- 2:38[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, hats off to David Malukus, he's he is and we've talked about this before.
- 2:49[SPEAKER_02]: You guys are way, way, underselling, Joseph New Garden, you know, I know that he is who?
- 3:00[SPEAKER_02]: I know that he is better on ovals than he is on anything else, but because of his injury this year and because they weren't good on road courses last year, I think people forget how good he was on the road courses the past few years.
- 3:13[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's kind of gotten in the back of our memories.
- 3:16[SPEAKER_02]: I think New Gardner will be back in a contention for championships if the Pinski Road and Street Court packages improve and I expect him to.
- 3:29[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it wouldn't be surprising if they make that jump and in finishing in second was Kyle Kirkwood, no surprise, but I also have to shout out Alexander Rossi with a third place.
- 3:37[SPEAKER_01]: We know he's been good at Laguna Saka in the past, but we talked just last week how easy you are has really had nothing to show for this season.
- 3:45[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, yeah, so all the real season articles, Elijah, all those articles about the great season, then it was going to be for Carpenter as this, what they were talking about a third place finish.
- 3:54[SPEAKER_02]: They're best finish of the year at Laguna Saka.
- 3:59[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure that's how they're gonna take it for sure.
- 4:01[SPEAKER_01]: I think I know I'm just team on be in circles.
- 4:10[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we said last year and then you're before and then you're before and then you're before and then you're before and then you're before.
- 4:21[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
- 4:21[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right
- 4:30[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a racer.
- 4:33[SPEAKER_01]: Not to kind of derail from the race recap, but, you know, we're talking about Ed carpenter racing and your favorite drivers between this race and the recent news cycle, it has been confirmed that Connor daily will be on the grid for a small time driver would try and ride both racing next year.
- 4:50[SPEAKER_02]: Biggest news of the podcast.
- 4:52[SPEAKER_02]: It honestly is.
- 4:54[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, Connor Daily is back.
- 4:57[SPEAKER_02]: The official favorite driver of the Indie car report is back.
- 5:05[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it was a must.
- 5:09[SPEAKER_01]: They were going to lose.
- 5:12[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't be surprised to see him, maybe not call for race win, but it's really hard to see where that program is going to be at next year.
- 5:21[SPEAKER_01]: You know they're going to be good on the ovals, but when you get to the road in the street courses, I think that's where it's going to be most interesting.
- 5:29[SPEAKER_02]: It will not be well on the road in street courses, I'm sure, but we're going to be in the office because we've seen he can compete in any car.
- 5:37[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter what car you give him, he's going to be up the front out in the noble.
- 5:44[SPEAKER_01]: And kind of flip flopping, another news we know makes shoe mockers going to be joint is going to be replacing Felix Rosenquist at Meyer Shank Racing, which I honestly think is probably the best seat he could have gotten for not the forming super well.
- 6:00[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 6:09[SPEAKER_02]: maybe I just not sure they make earned that seat.
- 6:13[SPEAKER_02]: He has earned it in the past.
- 6:15[SPEAKER_02]: Don't get me wrong.
- 6:15[SPEAKER_02]: If he had started at Meyer Shank this year, I think nobody would have batted on an eye at it.
- 6:19[SPEAKER_02]: But if he is going to be something in this series and it seems like he's committed to being something in the series, it can definitely happen at Meyer Shank.
- 6:30[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think to have the resources, you know, obviously being aligned with chip can ask you racing and still in a Honda, I think is is massive for Mick and what does a full season of off.
- 6:41[SPEAKER_01]: offseason testing look like for make sure marker where he's able to learn that car even more um... obviously had the experience of racing for a full year but you know he still just his new as dentist how grays to this specific car uh... he might have the racing experience but you know offered time and time and again just how challenging it is to drive in any car from these drivers
- 7:03[SPEAKER_01]: And I wouldn't be surprised to see him.
- 7:05[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe not when a race next year, but maybe just be more consistent.
- 7:09[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he'll outperform Armstrong.
- 7:11[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't be surprised if Armstrong has another really great year next year, but it's going to be interesting to see him in that scene.
- 7:18[SPEAKER_01]: And what program I would say is probably the best of the rest.
- 7:23[SPEAKER_02]: You know, as fans of racing, not just the Indie car series,
- 7:30[SPEAKER_02]: Elijah, Dave, we all know that makes you markers a talent.
- 7:33[SPEAKER_02]: It's not just his name.
- 7:35[SPEAKER_02]: He's a talent.
- 7:36[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen it.
- 7:37[SPEAKER_02]: We just didn't see it this year very much for some reason.
- 7:40[SPEAKER_02]: I still don't know why.
- 7:42[SPEAKER_02]: But if you figures out the indie car thing, man, the Meyer Shank, they are good.
- 7:46[SPEAKER_02]: They know what they're doing.
- 7:48[SPEAKER_02]: They give their drivers competitive cars weekend and week out.
- 7:52[SPEAKER_02]: And if he's got it in an indie car, we're going to see it, I think.
- 8:00[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.
- 8:02[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this year obviously he had his up and downs, but I also think that's just part of being a part of very whole Letterman land again, who?
- 8:10[SPEAKER_01]: just had a really weird year obviously we know Graham got off to a really strong start but you know you talk about those last six races and I'm not even sure we mentioned them more than just makes makes finishing spot.
- 8:22[SPEAKER_02]: That's true that's a good point and he was finishing last on his team most weeks qualifying last on his own team but that could still be a product of his team not being very good and clearly they're not very good right now.
- 8:37[SPEAKER_02]: I hope they become it again.
- 8:38[SPEAKER_02]: I think Indie car series is better when the Ray Halls are a factor.
- 8:44[SPEAKER_00]: I agree 100% with that.
- 8:45[SPEAKER_00]: We love the Ray Halls.
- 8:46[SPEAKER_00]: We love the Ray Halls being involved and they're going to have two car operation next year instead of three, but man, what a downer for a year.
- 8:56[SPEAKER_00]: And I will attribute McShumacher's
- 9:01[SPEAKER_00]: year had a lot to do with the other way around.
- 9:06[SPEAKER_00]: Ray Hall, Letterman, had a lot to do with the poor racing for a shoe marker.
- 9:11[SPEAKER_00]: He just, they just didn't have it.
- 9:13[SPEAKER_02]: I hope so.
- 9:14[SPEAKER_02]: A good make shoe marker in the series would help the series.
- 9:18[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Greyhall, moving down to two cars, they obviously have a bigger budget, but they're obviously not a really, really big team.
- 9:26[SPEAKER_01]: I think then moving down to two cars, maybe we could see them kind of have a renaissance, like my or shank is currently having, where they're actually able to focus on what really, really needs to be done and instead of kind of spreading the resources thinner.
- 9:40[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm actually excited.
- 9:41[SPEAKER_01]: I think Louis Foster is gonna be a great driver who will be in the next few hours series for a very long time.
- 9:47[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm excited to see, yeah, and I'm excited to see Graham Ray Hall kind of close out at the latter half of his career in these next couple years.
- 9:55[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of hype around that team I think, and definitely a lot of interest for sure.
- 9:59[SPEAKER_01]: I think Indy Car fans definitely want that team to be competitive.
- 10:03[SPEAKER_02]: I love Graham.
- 10:03[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to see him competitive, and I think Louie Foster has been just tremendous for what he's been given, and so.
- 10:13[SPEAKER_02]: Um, there's hope, but it's not been good for the last, what 10 years now.
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- 10:44[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm kind of moving on to the next topic.
- 10:45[SPEAKER_01]: I know looking at these championship standings, we obviously know Alex, Chloe, and first, Kirkwood and second.
- 10:51[SPEAKER_01]: But that order of third, fourth and fifth has been decided as well with Christian Lungard taking third, just ahead of his teammate, Pato Award, with David Malukas and fifth.
- 11:01[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, what a result for Christian Lungard.
- 11:04[SPEAKER_01]: We've said it time and time and again.
- 11:06[SPEAKER_01]: going to be so interesting to see where he lands, and the fact he's leaving this McLaren team, a team he was the championship leader on, is pretty bewildering.
- 11:18[SPEAKER_02]: And we heard Tony Kanon's explanation when it happened, and I still don't understand it.
- 11:22[SPEAKER_02]: I will never understand it.
- 11:24[SPEAKER_02]: They're gambling that Christian Lingard will never be good on ovals.
- 11:27[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he's already kind of starting to prove that he's going to be, it's just the whole thing is completely confounding to me.
- 11:36[SPEAKER_02]: Not that Felix Rosenquist isn't a talent, don't get me wrong.
- 11:40[SPEAKER_02]: but he's not a Christian loan guard talent.
- 11:43[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't understand the move.
- 11:45[SPEAKER_02]: I do understand the move of Dixon.
- 11:46[SPEAKER_02]: I even understand replacing loan guard with Dixon if what Tony can on says is true, that their focus is pattoe award.
- 11:56[SPEAKER_02]: Fine, if your focus is pattoe award winning championships in 500's, why isn't Christian loan guard also
- 12:04[SPEAKER_02]: of factor in that rather than Felix Rosenclist doesn't make sense to me.
- 12:09[SPEAKER_02]: There must have been some kind of personality issue, but any team that doesn't sign Christian Lingard at this point is kind of moronic.
- 12:16[SPEAKER_02]: He's that good.
- 12:18[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to know the inner workings of that because I'm like you did Christian Loon Guard just not mix well with the group.
- 12:27[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but it'd be interesting to find out because he is a talent.
- 12:32[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
- 12:33[SPEAKER_00]: And I looked the other side of that.
- 12:35[SPEAKER_00]: They had a chance to get Scott Tixon and Felix Rosenquist.
- 12:39[SPEAKER_00]: They had to jump on that and they did now.
- 12:49[SPEAKER_02]: I think maybe the 2nd or 3rd, 4th most talented driver in the entire series and he's not in the top three of your plans is insane.
- 13:11[SPEAKER_01]: Benefits McLaren in this situation is the facts that Felix is coming off of the Indianapolis 500 when I think we know Is big as the sport indie car is I would argue the sport as a whole probably isn't as big as the Indy 500 and I love Indy car And it a great we all agree I think I think that's their their goal behind it if you look at loan guards 500 performances Just not great
- 13:42[SPEAKER_02]: there's never been a great driver in Indy car who didn't at least at some point adapt to oval's right Dave, can you think of a great driver who didn't become Nigel Mansel become a great oval driver took him a little while they've all eventually if you're a great driver, you could it's not like the other way around Well power It's a good And that's a good comparison
- 14:09[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a good comparison.
- 14:10[SPEAKER_00]: All driver to begin with.
- 14:12[SPEAKER_02]: Right, but if he has will powers career, McLaren's made a huge mistake.
- 14:18[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a good point and I think I'm saying I think what Clarence a little bit Short-sided with how they're viewing it.
- 14:26[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a lot of Zach Brown saying I want to win the 500 and I want to win Monaco And I want to win them all as soon as possible But it's gonna be interesting to see where he lands and David Lucas and fifth and Scott my golf lead six for team Penskees Well Kind of like I said last week of them this year Malukus really nice performance for him.
- 14:45[SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna be remembered for second places, but
- 14:48[SPEAKER_02]: considering their road and street packages were what they were and how close he was twice.
- 14:57[SPEAKER_02]: By not his doing, would have won the 500 and Milwaukee too if not for late yellows probably.
- 15:05[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a bright future for that guy.
- 15:11[SPEAKER_01]: Another person who's had a great year is Marcus Aeroson in 7th place in the championship.
- 15:16[SPEAKER_01]: I think we talked about him.
- 15:17[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
- 15:19[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about him last year as being somebody who's almost a non-factor every week.
- 15:23[SPEAKER_01]: And I honestly think we'll power coming into that program.
- 15:27[SPEAKER_01]: changed the way he was able or I should say change the way and Dreti operated this year.
- 15:32[SPEAKER_01]: I would say it was a little bit of a resurgence all around for and Dreti.
- 15:35[SPEAKER_01]: We know Kirkwood is obviously going to be really good.
- 15:38[SPEAKER_01]: But Marcus Aeroson really stepped into his own this year and looked like the Marcus Aeroson of years past I can ask you.
- 15:45[SPEAKER_00]: That is a great stable of race cars and race drivers for and Dreti for next year.
- 15:53[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I really impressed with what Ericsson did.
- 15:56[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about it in the offseason how he was a non-factor last year, except for the 500 where he ended up finishing in the 30s, but was a factor.
- 16:04[SPEAKER_02]: And then early this year, we said, he's just been a non-factor, was a non-factor at Indy for the first time.
- 16:11[SPEAKER_02]: And then the second half of the season was one of the cars of the second half of the season.
- 16:16[SPEAKER_02]: No doubt about it.
- 16:17[SPEAKER_02]: And Dreddy was really good the second half of the year, as you guys said.
- 16:22[SPEAKER_01]: And his, honestly, his race went at Markham might be only second to a drive we saw.
- 16:28[SPEAKER_01]: It will feel excers and quits at the 500.
- 16:29[SPEAKER_01]: The way he was able to come through the pack with the laps kind of ticking down.
- 16:33[SPEAKER_01]: I was really, really impressive.
- 16:39[SPEAKER_01]: Well kind of closing out the top 10 and the championship, Joseph Newgarne and A through I think is you know how injured he was all year obviously still having those wins on the oval pretty crazy still see him in the top 10 with how much he kind of like we said was a non factor with his injury after the 500 which is really never the same almost intentionally a non factor he was just kind of staying out of trouble and Bravo to him for the season.
- 17:07[SPEAKER_00]: I made a joke about just a while ago.
- 17:10[SPEAKER_00]: Joseph who, but you we all know he's a great race driver and we all know he's with Penske and we know extra Dean and apples 500.
- 17:20[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be a factor.
- 17:22[SPEAKER_00]: Penske won't get their act together and that's just it's going to happen.
- 17:28[SPEAKER_02]: It is going to happen.
- 17:30[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's going to be a big may for Penske in 2020.
- 17:35[SPEAKER_01]: I believe he's heading into a contract year after next season as well, and I want to see new garden compete for a championship.
- 17:43[SPEAKER_01]: We know how good of a driver he is.
- 17:45[SPEAKER_01]: I think he would be so exciting to see him mix it up with Kyle Kirkwood and Alex Plo next year, because we know how good he is on the ovals, but if he can really figure out in Penske in general, can figure out a road and street course package that gives him the car.
- 18:01[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
- 18:02[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and Chevy, if they're able to figure that out, I couldn't name, and maybe maybe four more drivers other than Pado Award, Joseph New Garden, Calacracwood, and Alex, below that you want to see fighting at the front.
- 18:13[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's what I'm talking about.
- 18:16[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I'm talking about talking about a bounce back next year.
- 18:20[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody that needs a bounce back year.
- 18:22[SPEAKER_00]: And this is going to sound crazy.
- 18:24[SPEAKER_00]: Pado Award.
- 18:26[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
- 18:27[SPEAKER_00]: He had by all standards.
- 18:31[SPEAKER_00]: for his standard, it was not a great year.
- 18:34[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 18:35[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 18:36[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that shows how good he is.
- 18:38[SPEAKER_01]: Still finishing in fourth with a couple wins in Milwaukee.
- 18:43[SPEAKER_01]: But like you've said, you know, the car some weekends for McLaren and Chevy in general, it was just not there.
- 18:49[SPEAKER_01]: I think he probably had one of the toughest months of May we've ever seen him have on record.
- 18:54[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm excited to see where that program goes in the future because I have to believe he'd be getting pretty antsy if we go in the next couple years and the car still looks like this.
- 19:04[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
- 19:04[SPEAKER_02]: I still write gum Alex below Warren Petto award to at this point.
- 19:09[SPEAKER_00]: And in an apple's 500, let's face it, Potter Award is always a factor, always a factor.
- 19:16[SPEAKER_00]: He just hasn't, he's just that good.
- 19:19[SPEAKER_00]: It's his turn.
- 19:20[SPEAKER_00]: It is his turn to win the 500.
- 19:22[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it is.
- 19:24[SPEAKER_02]: And I think everyone would love that.
- 19:25[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, speaking of which next week, guys, let's talk about what our expectations are for next year and any news between now and then Elijah Final Thoughts.
- 19:39[SPEAKER_01]: This is a really good season overall, um, you know, obviously having talked through and test the recaps and stuff.
- 19:44[SPEAKER_01]: It's just been another fun year of indie car.
- 19:46[SPEAKER_01]: And I think honestly, if, if you're new to indie car, go back and watch the race highlights for some of these races.
- 19:51[SPEAKER_01]: There were 30 minutes long, and you can learn the sport just like that.
- 19:54[SPEAKER_01]: They do a really great job of pushing that on YouTube and stuff, uh, and it was a really good season.
- 20:00[SPEAKER_01]: Just a really good season.
- 20:00[SPEAKER_00]: 167 days full of paint, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh uh, uh
- 20:09[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to and next week we'll be sure to talk about the new 2028 car testing on the N.E.
- 20:17[SPEAKER_01]: 500 oval today.
- 20:18[SPEAKER_01]: So that's going to be super super interesting to see and man does that car look good.
- 20:22[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for joining the N.E.
- 20:24[SPEAKER_01]: car report.
- 20:25[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Elijah.
- 20:26[SPEAKER_01]: There's Gray and Dave Charlie.
- 20:27[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for joining us and we'll talk next week.
- 20:29[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks so much.
- 20:30[SPEAKER_02]: How many days to the 500 day?
- 20:33[SPEAKER_02]: Oh gosh.
- 20:34[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't figured that one.
- 20:36[SPEAKER_02]: That's the thing.
- 20:38[SPEAKER_02]: But you know what, the St. Pete, I almost, that recently, in the recent years, get almost as much anticipation for the race one as well.
- 20:48[SPEAKER_02]: Used to be all about the 500, but the Indie car series become so good the last few years that I get excited for St. Pete too.
- 20:59[SPEAKER_00]: We had some injuries this year, but no super major injuries.
- 21:03[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
- 21:03[SPEAKER_00]: There's 20, the 25 drivers that started or were the 25 drivers that finished.
- 21:11[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
- 21:12[SPEAKER_00]: And that is, I should have, that's fantastic.
- 21:17[SPEAKER_02]: It is, and by the way, 257 days to the 111th in the 500.
- 21:19[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks so much, guys.
- 21:20[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
- 21:21[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
- 21:32[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Elijah.
- 21:33[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you Dave.
- 21:34[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks everyone for listening.
- 21:35[SPEAKER_02]: It was a lot of fun.
- 21:38[SPEAKER_02]: Please join us again for the next indie car report next week.
- 21:44[SPEAKER_02]: Central Indiana Sports Report is a product of ITG Media and I love Susie.