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Summer Fridays: Love Island Finale Fallout + Big Brother Live Feed Drama · Your One And Only Source

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hello and welcome back to your one and only source where your hosts, my name is Phoebe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My name is Caroline and just for a second there looked like you were going to like yell at me, scream at me, throw a temper tantrum, give me a criticism.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This early in the podcast, I agreed that would be crazy.
0:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, then.
0:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, then.
0:33
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys, it's been a really, really hectic, busy few weeks for me and Phoebe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So really, really, really, thank you for your, your patients and your flexibility.
0:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Phoebe's been a road warrior, honestly.
0:48
[SPEAKER_02]: She's been living her road warrior truth.
0:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Much to our parent's shagrant, honestly.
0:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they do not want you to keep putting my eyes on that thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know, I'm not saying, meaning Phoenix, sweet ass.
1:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Haha, on that thing.
1:08
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they mean the car, and they're probably right, but I just...
1:14
[SPEAKER_01]: It's easier and cheaper to drive.
1:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Phoebe, Phoebe drove all over America, essentially.
1:21
[SPEAKER_02]: And I am currently in tech for Frozen Jr. And don't be confused by the junior at the end of that.
1:32
[SPEAKER_02]: The show is actually so hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've done like 11 dance numbers in a double cast.
1:38
[SPEAKER_02]: So I've had to in and everyone's had to be redot.
1:40
[SPEAKER_02]: So I've because he kids are always missing for vacation and shit in the summer.
1:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And things have just been really, really hectic, but we have a lot of reality TV to catch up on.
1:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think we should start with Love Island because we did, we did live to see Brunady come out on top and it felt so fucking good.
2:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I literally was cheering, clapping, jumping up and down vibes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was really well, you know, but tears also, I mean, obviously, me and Kerem both stoked Brunady won.
2:15
[SPEAKER_01]: One thing I was also really happy about was that Anaya placed top two because I just needed KC and TT to know to understand to understand that like Listen, I like Anaya without everything that happened
2:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm, but I really think her and I don't mean to chalk it up to like what I'm ended to her at all.
2:38
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like a bull carl is wonderful.
2:40
[SPEAKER_01]: There are a great like cute couple that's easy to root for.
2:43
[SPEAKER_01]: However, KC, you said your stock was going to go up when you went to Casa and I just feel like this is proof.
2:53
[SPEAKER_01]: that you really miscalculated things.
2:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because part of why people were so ready to root for Carl and Anayal is because they wanted to show you, because there were very few opportunities for America to have our say, and to vote, and to be like, like, what happened to you more?
3:13
[SPEAKER_01]: What happened to us ranking them?
3:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, also, hey, how about this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What happened to you?
3:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to split the money or leave with it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't even ask.
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[SPEAKER_02]: People were expecting to know it's because they know it's a fake couple and they don't want to and they want the couple to come out on top so that they don't want to get them the chance because they all know price would take that money or something.
3:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to be price who's literally walking around the gate cartoon character hurts coming out of his eyes floating through the air that it's also like hey to those people think that wouldn't it be nice imagine your life for two seconds when you just believe you weren't that at all.
3:48
[SPEAKER_02]: He liked her
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[SPEAKER_02]: When you weren't cynical, you weren't jaded, you weren't a conspiracy theorist, like wouldn't that just be nice?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, can't we just enjoy some of my life and better than yours, right?
3:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Is he listen?
3:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I understand these men don't make it easy.
4:02
[SPEAKER_02]: These men don't make it easy as Phoebe said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a race.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Many of you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But at what cost, but it's like, when there is a good man, we must champion him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he continues to prove that he is one of his best families, but like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just, there aren't, there aren't a lot of red flags.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if I were him, I would be talking about my Tumblr fame up and down that level.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd be like, and happy to see myself with Kendall Jenner or Nell.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I would be asking everybody that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The fact that she didn't even know that shit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She thought it was a garbage man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a pretty good one, you guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I went back on my letter box, is that Sophie there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Somewhere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my Tumblr.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, my letter box.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, let our box, it could, it could be, it very well could be on mine, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I, but I won't be digging that up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I won't be digging that up until I have a reason to big brother, casting, just kidding.
4:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just kidding, but it's like, don't you guys, like, we have enough men to hate from this season, yeah, yeah, and hey, hey Zach, hey Zach,
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm leaving the villa in a relationship, in my girlfriend, as getting as much enough hate to deactivate her Instagram, I'm probably deactivating mine with her, and I'm definitely not posting other people's stories about the experience we ought to share, while she feels like she is to deactivate her account because of the hate that I'm bringing on to her.
5:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I do want to talk about this for a minute, because I have a few things I 100% agree with
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[SPEAKER_02]: And especially like for her like she is losing out on just so much just by not having it like that now is the crucial time for that Instagram to be active you know and it really is a shame I wish that we as women could remember like the point you know what I mean I wish that we could.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just stick to the mission, which is, take that band down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, just fame exactly.
6:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I didn't mean Kada.
6:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I meant, um, and I shouldn't have classified the Love Island fan base as a swimming.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think anybody who is in the Love Island fan base, we need to remember the mission.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we need to just keep our eyes forward.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and focus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And like, so that means like, I don't actually have time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My fingers don't have time to type the hate comments to another woman to Kate.
6:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I really got on your stand-in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because they're working so hard to be in these other men's comments.
6:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm not in the comments.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah, but to the people that are, it's like, if I was someone who was a keyboard warrior, yeah, I mean, like, you're like, I think of one single thing I
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not closely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like other than like Melanie get out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Melanie, what are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Melanie run.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Melanie run and do not look back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cata.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so that, but here's my other my other question is.
7:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I am and maybe it's just how soon we forget because my mind is full of big brother right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm I like.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why is in case C getting the level of vitriol that Zack is getting?
7:16
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like going through sex sins and crimes in my head and I was like, honestly, I mean, he's a little bit of a fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he speak a little bit like a red pill guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is he bad with like the bromance shit?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, did he cheat on her and like all of this is yes, but like in comparison,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we should be able to let them continue on just a couple now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've made their choice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think what's hard now Melody has to see out the other hand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In part of it is we like Kada.
7:48
[SPEAKER_01]: No one really cares for T.T.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, no one really cares.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like a lot of the things that Casey, if Casey was still like a NIR, I think we would be coming for Casey, the way that we're coming for Zach, maybe.
8:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But because Casey is in this relationship that like as much as I hate to say it, like, I don't think they're gonna last on me wrong.
8:08
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she might kill him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't, I mean, she, I know that she knows how to take care of him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he'll, he's probably already cheated on herself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like there are other areas that are worth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think people, if you did kill him, I wouldn't have happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like, okay, you're curating just one up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just that I think that the people feel like the people who's client list has Kada and Melanie on it.
8:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're like, okay, well, we kind of have to take care of this first.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I as good, nice with girls.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, let's, and then I actually know that with much of she's men and that they suck and like these are all of the reasons that they do and we're not going to let you live a day without
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[SPEAKER_02]: As much as an IS suffered in the villa, she didn't really suffer outside of the villa.
9:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I mean, I'm sure she, I'm confident she did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm confident there are horrific things out there about her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're all good at her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Terrible comments.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if it's coming across my timeline, there's a whole fucking lot of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it really like the viewers seemed to line on who we were aiming at at.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it wasn't ever her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like, she's okay, you know, Trinity and Bryce, they're okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the tweets were killing me, making me laugh, like, since you're open those comments, and it's like someone banging down the door, like exactly, like, again, I'm not in the comments, but I am like, and here's another thing we actually, I want to get into is like the hate comment thing, because I get that, like, yes, it's cyberbullying is bad, like, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
9:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I get it, Emily.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Osmond.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I get it, girl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but maybe it was like a real pivotal moment of my childhood actually saw it.
10:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't watch party for it.
10:04
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, went to one.
10:06
[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, guys, this is important and serious.
10:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's actually no talking during the movie during the first watch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be watching it in a second time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's when we can discuss.
10:15
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's almost an actual come out.
10:16
[SPEAKER_02]: There are loops earbuds here for everybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If anyone was
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[SPEAKER_02]: song.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love that for you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I just do think that there's like, there's a section of the hate comments.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that are maybe in good fun.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Am I going to get canceled over this that are maybe in good fun in our kind of funny and they're actually meant to like be comedy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if yourself were a king, you won't be offended.
10:46
[SPEAKER_01]: There's that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's that aspect of it, which is why to me, I do this is where I hope I feel it.
10:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think this comes with to us naturally as bravo viewers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a level of it where I am just like,
11:04
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys chose to do this.
11:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For all of the good that you hoped would come with it.
11:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You knew there was a flip side to that coin that might rear its ugly head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and love, I went famous.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not as like the worst cyber bullying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and it's not an excuse for like the really gruesome terrible comments.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like also, another thing I want to say
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys did this shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, like I'm sorry.
11:38
[SPEAKER_01]: He case someone that you did.
11:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I should be allowed to come in electric chair.
11:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Like someone who does someone has to, someone has to hold you accountable.
11:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's going to be me.
11:49
[SPEAKER_02]: You actually chose for it to be me.
11:51
[SPEAKER_02]: You chose for it to be, that's to love Island where it's from maybe reality.
11:55
[SPEAKER_02]: You got it off for a long.
11:57
[SPEAKER_01]: With like people who were on reality TV being like, be nice.
12:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, well,
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a terrible person and you're on TV, like, but you be nice, you've now signed up for, yeah, KC, hey, Jack Taylor, you be nice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You like, KC, you weren't nice?
12:15
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I can't think of, wait, I can't think of one time you actually were like outright nasty.
12:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I was a reversal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry if I'm not like obliged to like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, send you flowers today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, and again, I mean, I'm really making myself sound like I'm a keyboard warrior.
12:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I have.
12:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm going to do the podcast where we talk about them, but we do this is what this is our comments.
12:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you guys know my comments.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't and need to hear and they know them too, because they all listen.
12:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
12:44
[SPEAKER_02]: So,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've said my piece and like I touched my name to it.
12:48
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, I'm not how I'm kind of freaking keep where I'm saying it into the mic.
12:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I got to the mic.
12:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, ah, ah, ah, ah, you know what I'm saying?
12:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's me with hating on the man on the mobile island.
12:57
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm not going to do that for the women.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's insane.
13:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I really, I don't know what to say here's the, I don't know, I don't have one bad thing to say about pretty much any of the women, but you know, who does, since years family, another reason I don't give a shit about what I say, because hey, hey, hey, since you're open up your comments, if your family's going to go live and say shit about this girls, I have to say keyboard warrior tomorrow's a new day.
13:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I just had this kind
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so that wasn't cyber bullying when your family had a cook out to watch the finale and when shit.
13:35
[SPEAKER_02]: And then shit, they were saying was like mean and nasty unnecessary.
13:40
[SPEAKER_02]: It has nothing to do with the show.
13:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's like you being just grows and it's also like, okay, since here at your stepdad just came to you and we thought he was a good dude.
13:48
[SPEAKER_02]: And now he's talking like, like, what was that about?
13:51
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
13:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder the producer's like, you know, and second place is
13:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's that's disgusting and same thing to say, if I were sincere, I'd actually like put my parents in here's a thing.
14:04
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're going to pull if you're going to box lock it up, put on the ocean just kidding, they can breathe through it.
14:09
[SPEAKER_02]: There's there's oxygen tanks enough for their whole lives in there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I would never do anything like that.
14:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Love Island always will post these things that are like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember these are real people, they have real feelings.
14:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you don't know the other.
14:25
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not, oh, they're not there.
14:27
[SPEAKER_02]: My sims, it's like, I'll say whatever I want to gave them life, which is where that's where I have that issue with since years family.
14:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, it doesn't apply to the Islanders family members to get online talk shit about the other Islanders.
14:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't know them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That maybe you matter for the family.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now we understand why since here's so good of bullshit and manipulating people because his dad came up with his dad did just that you know, like so that's kind of actually now I don't feel about about any of any of them are getting I just don't like it for myself and is and is that the other thing I want to say about him that was so bad that every girl is posting his statement like that first of all
15:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't you fight your own fucking battle?
15:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just one.
15:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't get behind these girls.
15:20
[SPEAKER_02]: How dare you?
15:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw on my own, how are they?
15:23
[SPEAKER_01]: That apparently right before they get their phones, they have like a big meeting with producers, and they walk through the whole season.
15:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And they say these are the moments that went viral, these are the memes, these are the things that people had issues with.
15:37
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what, and so they kind of climb you before you get your phone, like this is, so like I'm sure, walking into Zach was maybe like, and I think Zach would probably be so hard for Zach was I do think.
15:52
[SPEAKER_01]: and his brain, especially because Alana was sent home before he could do anything superfarious.
15:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he psyched himself into thinking that he was a fan favorite, especially when he got that finale spot over Kenzie.
16:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that Ian Keda had just been crashing out about like being in the bottom.
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[SPEAKER_02]: because of a man.
16:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but then I think, and he was like, I sure get me.
16:17
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but then he was reassured by getting into the finale.
16:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that he had like a little bit of time to recover from that.
16:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And then when he came out and they were like, Zach, like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they don't, these people do not know how low people will go and with the things that they will say.
16:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, you can think you're completely prepared, but it still is like a different kind of feeling when you read that comment that's like, holy fucking, let me tell you one thing.
16:45
[SPEAKER_02]: before I ever go on reality television, I will have already thought of every single thing somebody could say to me.
16:51
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't worry about it.
16:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm actually perfect to cancel it because you can't say anything to me, I haven't already decided you'll say.
16:56
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like that's my whole thing.
16:59
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think that men do think like that because of their egos.
17:02
[SPEAKER_02]: It's probably true that women too.
17:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Like these people knew like, I was feeling really sick over the Melanie stuff and the things people were saying once they found out she had been a plus-sized model.
17:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I was worried for her coming out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I was like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: She knows she was a plus size model.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She owns it.
17:20
[SPEAKER_02]: She loves those pictures up on her Instagram.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's not trying to hide it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She knows people are gonna say something about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's already thought about it.
17:27
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Where is men or like, wait, why would anybody bring that up or think that or look at that old picture of me?
17:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they don't go there.
17:34
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, mm-hmm.
17:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, they like we found everything.
17:37
[SPEAKER_01]: What's another thing?
17:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just wanna kind of cover my bases with people being
17:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, just since here's family said that.
17:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I'm thinking about Casey and T.T.
17:47
[SPEAKER_01]: In the villa.
17:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
17:49
[SPEAKER_01]: T.T.
17:49
[SPEAKER_01]: In any of those girls, when she was making fun of them, with Casey laughing in the kitchen about Melanie, watching a conversation happen with sincere.
17:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, sick.
17:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Like,
18:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, you guys, the world doesn't have to treat you with kid clubs when you don't treat anybody else with kid clubs.
18:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, no, and also like, you, I'm sorry, I will always, always, always thank you, open yourself up to this.
18:15
[SPEAKER_02]: You didn't have to go on this show.
18:17
[SPEAKER_02]: You wanted to go on it because you probably wanted to get famous and that's okay.
18:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not actually mad at you for that.
18:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I was going outside.
18:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd go in the island tomorrow to get famous.
18:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, everybody knows that.
18:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I understand it, but like I just think it's crazy that your ego is so inflated that you thought you'd be the exception of the rule once you got famous and that's what it seems like it's available for anything and you wouldn't have to get the hit comments because people would like you because you're different because you're a good guy.
18:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'll even give Casey this, but I'm sorry that your brother was on the show.
18:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Zach is more of my issue with in terms of like, I do think that's how he thought and how he moved in the villa, where his KCA, I think, after Casa, this is in a defense of him.
19:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just just like an explanation for him that are not there is like when he got his phone back, it was almost like he expected how people were going to react, whereas we didn't get the footage of Zach getting his phone back, but something tells me he was shocked.
19:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he could literally be told my producer's like, hey, dude, it's really bad out there and he'd be like, not that bad.
19:22
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
19:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I just don't think he would be like, yeah, well, what's your, what's my bad is it what's your bad?
19:26
[SPEAKER_02]: I was the best.
19:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I was best mates with the freaking winner.
19:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like he's like, look at my girl.
19:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I know, I just,
19:34
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, they love your girl.
19:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's kind of the answer.
19:39
[SPEAKER_02]: That's actually the issue.
19:40
[SPEAKER_02]: They love Katea.
19:41
[SPEAKER_02]: We wouldn't give a fuck about Zach if we didn't like Katea.
19:45
[SPEAKER_02]: We would be like, do it every one.
19:46
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
19:47
[SPEAKER_02]: What have been like, he would have been out.
19:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yes.
19:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he episodes ago.
19:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
19:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, but I would like Katea.
19:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, she was there.
19:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
19:58
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my favorite.
19:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my favorite quote from the whole season.
20:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I have a way to describe her as she her voice is why I think everybody likes her because she doesn't give high school mean girl in the way that she might like on paper, you might think she has.
20:20
[SPEAKER_01]: She gives like she was cool with the mean popular grays like they'd go to parties together But like she didn't really fuck with them.
20:28
[SPEAKER_02]: She was just like their parents have the experience That's our laid back to like she honestly gives me more of like
20:33
[SPEAKER_01]: stoner with a stoner yeah hanging out with like the skater boy so like she would by proxy hang out with the mean pop girl's in high school because they'd be at parties together right but she didn't really fuck with them in that way now and then you'd sit next to her in math class and like any really great for this party
20:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, like, 100% 100% you invited other Christmas party and you're kind of stressed out about it.
20:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly who you're talking about.
21:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I actually had this revelation recently about our Christmas parties.
21:04
[SPEAKER_01]: So, playing, I mean, your Christmas party might have been different.
21:09
[SPEAKER_01]: The underage drinking, because our Christmas parties are famously dry.
21:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Dry high school parties.
21:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I had one in there was party that had alcohol once I turned 21.
21:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And Caroline, you can never do it again.
21:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I've never, I've never, I've never in my life actually been blackout drunk, except for that night.
21:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So, so, but there would always be those couple girls who would come to your Christmas party, you would either pre-games, or they showed up with gatorade bottles.
21:40
[SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, whether or not that was actually true, mom decided there were two girls who did.
21:46
[SPEAKER_02]: So whether or not those two girls actually did those things.
21:51
[SPEAKER_02]: My party at my party and there's no convincing.
21:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, otherwise that's true, but it is like, why are you showing my party with a half a half full drink drunkenly right ball when I have noticed what I noticed throughout the Christmas party is like,
22:07
[SPEAKER_02]: everyone kind of like respected the Christmas party is like this is like a social don't really like to go into every year and like there just is no drinking at this party and like so what we love going so exactly like it's just not kind of the point getting to is the people that I found that would come to the party meeting to drink or to like pre-game it was never like the people that like would go to parties and drink
22:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're best to go going and they wanted to like I was like or they're like this is my one chance to hang out with the for the freaking PK's popular kids
22:43
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to show them that yes, my bros smells like rubbing alcohol because that's what I drank last like they want the girls to think that they're cool so they're like, oh, they drank.
22:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I can invite them to my drinking parties, but hey girl.
22:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, yeah, but now you guys are in the corner with your one gay to read bottle like And everyone's actually looking at you like, didn't you know what this is?
23:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Have you never been invited before?
23:04
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
23:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And now you like really look like a loser.
23:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
23:14
[SPEAKER_01]: We get to have the Christmas party because we don't have everything comes with other parties exactly.
23:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, take for yourself.
23:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I was at the drinking parties.
23:26
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I just get to have the Christmas party because you don't bring that.
23:30
[SPEAKER_02]: And I thought you meant we get to have the Christmas party because we're not involved at all with your parties your other party.
23:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, because I was inviting partyers to the party.
23:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't going to their parties, but they were at my party.
23:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
23:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, anyway, okay.
23:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't really have anything else to say about Love Island right now.
23:49
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I'm already to move into Big Brother if you are.
23:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you listen to Kenzie on card outie?
23:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't listen to it, but I watched plenty of clips and I need to say, Kenzie, love you chill.
24:00
[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
24:01
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't need to hear her surprise.
24:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, tell me how this is out of the deck.
24:06
[SPEAKER_02]: And they always get compliments.
24:08
[SPEAKER_02]: As earnestly as a woman can say that, she's nobody at least is earnest.
24:13
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I know, but I am just like, but you know what I'm really excited for her.
24:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I cannot fucking wait for her to get a really good makeup artist because she's just like her makeup.
24:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I like Kinsey, but her makeup's botched, it is looks terrible and I think that and also I hate her bangs.
24:34
[SPEAKER_02]: So I just think if she, I'm really excited for her to get extensions and have long, like almost caler hair, but not that long, I think she should stay gold and get like a really
24:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Made, and you know what, I'll say it.
24:51
[SPEAKER_02]: She does have a lip flip.
24:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I just can't.
24:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I would have just, I'm going to go with you with her.
24:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, but because all these girls are going to, I would say like, just a, even just a lip plumper.
25:03
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, if she did those things, I mean, she'd be unstoppable.
25:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you can't, I'm pretty girl with her.
25:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Just tell me not.
25:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Am I?
25:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm literally like, this is the Caroline's canceling up.
25:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So I just shot my chance to look on my back brother next year, didn't I?
25:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's pet speaking because you told Denzi is needed to see the homework now.
25:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what they're just as bad as I thought they'd be.
25:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, because I'm normal because I'm actually sick in the head and I like can I can I read to you can I read to you wait comment no I haven't read myself I read to you what your big brother keep me speech can't be
25:39
[SPEAKER_01]: What, hi dad, hi to my friends.
25:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Love you, miss you into my fellow houseguests.
25:46
[SPEAKER_01]: My roots, love you, but I don't wanna say miss you just yet.
25:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm having so, so very much from with you guys.
25:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm gonna have like some serious fomal on all the like snacks we've just been devouring on night and not only that, but all the inside jokes that we're having.
26:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Like can I please not be missed out on?
26:07
[SPEAKER_01]: But besides all that like seriously, do a special game and I hope it's me.
26:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, I've actually trail July 16th, 2026, 14 votes in her favor.
26:23
[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, it's ever happened.
26:24
[SPEAKER_01]: But unanimous vote at the first time.
26:26
[SPEAKER_02]: A unanimous vote at the first time with 14 votes.
26:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I think.
26:29
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what, you know what, Ashley, it was the speed.
26:33
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it wasn't.
26:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, I want to get into Big Brother right away and get into Ashley, but first I was thinking, we should talk about what Big Brother is in case there are people who like don't have it watched it, don't understand it, want to listen to us talk or would like maybe you want to get into it.
26:49
[SPEAKER_02]: So I just figured since this week one, we could just go through like.
26:52
[SPEAKER_02]: how the game works.
26:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll let you do that.
26:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
26:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, unless you think it's annoying.
26:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
26:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, guys, so big brother, if you were watching Love Island, this is going to feel like a walk in the freaking park, okay, a cake walk even.
27:07
[SPEAKER_02]: It's three times a week, Sunday.
27:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's three times a week if you're lazy.
27:10
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're late, Sunday, Sunday, Wednesday, and Thursday, okay.
27:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Otherwise, it's on 24, seven.
27:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, there's something called live feeds, hence the name, a big brother.
27:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so you can literally go in and watch them, like, you know, how you're always like, what are my sims doing talking about Love Island?
27:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Well,
27:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Now you can actually know and go watch them just like when will we do that on the violent I'm I'm waiting for it I mean, it's got to be that far off I think these those people are so unpredictable.
27:39
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like actually don't know what they'll do That's true.
27:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the people operating the feed like they would have to be we need so much money that just don't worth it Anyhoo, so you can watch these people all day long So here's what happens are like what 16 house guests 17 18
27:54
[SPEAKER_02]: No clue.
27:54
[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like a hundred.
27:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Around that, that many house gets going to a house.
27:58
[SPEAKER_02]: You could be there for 100 days.
28:00
[SPEAKER_02]: That is like the maximum amount of time.
28:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Firstly, you've got there.
28:04
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a competition.
28:05
[SPEAKER_02]: It's called Head of Household HOH.
28:07
[SPEAKER_02]: If you win this competition, you become Head of Household.
28:10
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is Phoebe's worst nightmare as a, as a person who wants her to win the game, like this would be the worst case scenario for her is ever winning how to household.
28:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Because she'll simply never speak to another person.
28:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And she would get out of the game immediately.
28:22
[SPEAKER_02]: But in a head of household, you get your own room, like a king size bed, you get your own bathroom, talking like this.
28:27
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, you have setting your own stuff.
28:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Me on big brother.
28:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, put me on big brother.
28:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Have I not literally set it a million times?
28:34
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, we go only pretend we're not twins.
28:37
[SPEAKER_02]: We're like, it is uncanny.
28:40
[SPEAKER_02]: It is uncanny, but do we, you think we look that much alike?
28:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I also know the same people, like we don't try to hide it at all.
28:45
[SPEAKER_02]: We imagine we just can't be picking up out.
28:47
[SPEAKER_01]: We just can't completely go through with the parent trap.
28:50
[SPEAKER_01]: The bit we hate each other at first.
28:52
[SPEAKER_01]: We get put in the I'm really hoping and then it boat one of us is what we have mom and dad and on it So like when each of us wins head of household mom sends us like this really sent mom sends me this really sentimental picture of like just mom at this dinner That she looks so beautiful and then how are we gonna get dad as me male?
29:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Mom, we'll do it.
29:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Mom, we'll do it.
29:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, mom.
29:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Mom is practicing dad's handwriting as weeks You got a picture of dad that's fairly sentimental to you that she sends to you We're not allowed to bring anything in, but they can send it to us and so then Scrap me piece of paper you got there.
29:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Get a little swim.
29:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're like open to my mom, okay?
29:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it really happens where we have to start working together and our our friendships starts to evolve like, like, like, Howly and Annie's.
29:44
[SPEAKER_01]: We get hand cut together like that one with that one challenge.
29:48
[SPEAKER_01]: We're now in the head for like a week.
29:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's when we find the pictures and we find out that we both like not or isn't peanut butter because I don't like that, but something like that.
29:58
[SPEAKER_01]: No, we both live a lot in Thomas.
30:02
[SPEAKER_02]: That's okay.
30:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Somehow it's in the big brother like we're like, I love and we will say a lot of ins hummus.
30:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait.
30:11
[SPEAKER_02]: What is that in your pocket?
30:14
[SPEAKER_02]: What is that in your pocket?
30:16
[SPEAKER_02]: What is that in your pocket?
30:17
[SPEAKER_02]: What is that in your pocket?
30:19
[SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna pick.
30:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's a photograph.
30:21
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a photograph.
30:22
[SPEAKER_02]: It's photograph, who is that woman?
30:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Why do I feel like I've seen her before?
30:25
[SPEAKER_02]: You haven't, say mom, okay?
30:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, I'm in it.
30:29
[SPEAKER_02]: In my other pocket, I have something.
30:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And I put it on this side so it wouldn't stab you by the way.
30:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I pull it out.
30:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I say, that's my dad and you're like, okay.
30:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, maybe, let's make him kiss.
30:42
[SPEAKER_01]: He's that we do it in really great a minute.
30:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, that's a picture of the viewers today.
30:46
[SPEAKER_02]: They had their first kiss.
30:47
[SPEAKER_01]: My crazy, are they actually kissing?
30:50
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31:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, so out of household, if you went out of household, you get your own room.
31:14
[SPEAKER_02]: You also have like TV's in there.
31:16
[SPEAKER_02]: You can watch other house, guess whatever.
31:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And you get to pick two people in the house to put up for eviction, okay?
31:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Three.
31:21
[SPEAKER_02]: So you pick, oh, sorry.
31:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Three people to put up for eviction.
31:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
31:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Awesome.
31:26
[SPEAKER_02]: You do that.
31:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Throughout the week, you guys are all playing.
31:28
[SPEAKER_02]: You're forming alliances.
31:29
[SPEAKER_02]: You're lying to each other.
31:30
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a massive massive social component of this game, where you are encouraged to lie in a billet cheat.
31:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you've got a notice, but this game and also about traders is it often times they bring survivor people into these games and they bring the challenge people into these games and while there are social components to both of those games.
31:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I think some in D is an exception so far.
31:58
[SPEAKER_02]: D will D said this is harder than survivor.
32:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's exactly what I mean.
32:04
[SPEAKER_02]: It's exactly what I mean.
32:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I think which one would be that can not be true.
32:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Derek, I mean, there's that no way.
32:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Devin's on the porch the other day when he's like, I mean, relatively speaking.
32:16
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a pretty nice morning.
32:18
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I've worn that too soon.
32:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's like, I've woken up, covered in bird shit, a monkey sitting on my chest, having eaten in seven days can see my ribs.
32:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And someone next to me is,
32:33
[SPEAKER_01]: dead from heat exhaustion.
32:36
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the game.
32:37
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a breaks.
32:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So the thing about this show is like, and I mean, I guess this is more so with traders, but I think big brother is the next step up from those other shows that are a little bit more challenge heavy.
32:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't hear about this
32:55
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, the thing about traders is that it's pretty much explicitly a social game.
33:00
[SPEAKER_01]: The challenges don't really matter in terms of, they don't really matter.
33:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it demonstrates, but the, it matters in a social sense.
33:09
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a team player, if you help, if you do these things, if you get a shot like that.
33:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas with big brother, they're, I mean, there are challenges that of course matter and hunt with your game along, but ultimately it comes down to your social game.
33:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
33:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think that survivor and challenge players who are more used to challenge heavy and game heavy shows, it's a real adjustment for them.
33:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
33:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, totally because in big brother, if you can't win a challenge, you can still win the game basically.
33:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if you can't win a challenge, but you're able to use your social interests on the way people, to keep you off the block, to get people to vote the way you want them to.
33:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And you don't have to get blood on your hands.
33:54
[SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy.
33:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, if you don't make enough social moves, people are going to accuse you of skating and then that's going to be an issue.
33:58
[SPEAKER_02]: But so that's that.
34:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So whoever wins, hey, floaters, grab a life vest.
34:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Gay Rachel Lylee.
34:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure.
34:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like Phoebe and I look you so excited when she got on that screen.
34:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I was praying in real.
34:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
34:18
[SPEAKER_02]: So then halfway through the week, there's the veto competition.
34:20
[SPEAKER_02]: The head of household gets to pick some people to participate.
34:25
[SPEAKER_02]: The people on the block get to participate and then they like randomly choose some.
34:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you win the veto competition, the golden power, you get to choose
34:34
[SPEAKER_02]: to either take somebody off of the block.
34:36
[SPEAKER_02]: If you were on the block, you can take yourself off the block or you can leave the norms as they are.
34:40
[SPEAKER_02]: If you take somebody off the block, the head of household then has to choose a new house guest to evict or to put on the block.
34:48
[SPEAKER_02]: So a lot of times they will blind side people by putting three people up in the middle I'm about your like don't worry you're disappointed because we're actually trying to get so And so so we need somebody to win the veto take you off the block and then I'm going to put them up and they won't be able to save themselves However that has changed in recent years because now on Thursday, which is a live eviction night can watch a live They have something called
35:08
[SPEAKER_02]: the BB blockbuster and it's when the three people who are on the block play in a live like two minute long game and you ever win that game take themselves off the block.
35:17
[SPEAKER_02]: So it really makes it a lot harder blind size.
35:19
[SPEAKER_02]: You kind of always have to have a backup plan.
35:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Then the two house gets who are still in the block of back into the house.
35:25
[SPEAKER_02]: They make speeches to try to save themselves, which also has fallen out of vogue for some reason.
35:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me tell you when I'm in the house.
35:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm making speeches.
35:34
[SPEAKER_02]: And then everybody goes into the diary room and they vote one by one who they want to evict and never gets the most votes is what it out of the house and then they immediately play another head of household competition and start the next week up again and I wish I wish Thursday nights were an hour and a half Wednesday and a half hour so that we got a live head of household.
35:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I would love that too, but some of the head of household games are so long or at least fucking put on this.
36:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, well, something like something they do, like the wall, you can watch on feeds, put on your card, or you can watch on feeds.
36:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's, here's my, you know, the, all know it last year and the year before as far as I'm watching, they make you wait a little bit and then they put it.
36:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah, my issue is just, and listen, I'm not like a, I'm watching very long.
36:24
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I watched last year when.
36:27
[SPEAKER_01]: when was last year?
36:30
[SPEAKER_01]: No, two years ago.
36:30
[SPEAKER_00]: That would handle the season.
36:34
[SPEAKER_01]: They, what do they call that thing that Taylor Hale does?
36:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Unlocked.
36:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Abby, Abby, we unlocked.
36:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So what they've started doing a, Clayton, so there's another component to be brother, which is the life feeds, which means you can watch it anytime, like Caroline says.
36:48
[SPEAKER_01]: But they've started to normally, like our first year, they didn't, the first year I watched, they didn't do unlocked.
36:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, they would only really cut feeds if something super intense was that like super super super intense of it.
37:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Only be on the show was happening.
37:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, something like a pro-breed or nefarious or a challenge or soccer game.
37:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Now they've started cutting feeds so that they can put stuff on that.
37:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, that's not why Caroline pays for my paramount plus it's exactly egg, then thank you exactly no I know I they're also cutting feeds to protect people on my stock.
37:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Stop, they said what they said, don't put it on the table.
37:32
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they should get you know, they know their on life feeds.
37:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, exactly.
37:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, I'm sorry.
37:37
[SPEAKER_02]: You, the producer now, you are complicit.
37:39
[SPEAKER_02]: You are enabling this behavior because you're trying to protect them.
37:42
[SPEAKER_02]: But like the truth is, they should be out of the game.
37:45
[SPEAKER_02]: If they say, or like, that should be held against them.
37:47
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
37:48
[SPEAKER_01]: that's how it works because there's a there's kind of a divide in the big brother viewership where the people who just really watch what's on TV are called the casuals.
38:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know I think do they just call them my feeders, the people that are clocked into the rest of it.
38:05
[SPEAKER_02]: So when it comes to a live feeder, but you like have a life, and you can't keep up, but you would like to.
38:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Also there are Twitter accounts who actually take off work.
38:13
[SPEAKER_02]: They're entire, they must, they must stay teaching from to somebody said, I took the whole summer off to do.
38:19
[SPEAKER_02]: This is my job in the summer.
38:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, here's a, here's a go like a, then if you want to send me five bucks or something.
38:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, people literally dedicate their entire summers.
38:29
[SPEAKER_02]: to watching the feeds.
38:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to get you through that and be like, hey, y'all.
38:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a good guy.
38:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm also for you.
38:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Except for they're like, they do it for one hour.
38:37
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, if you, I can't take this.
38:38
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, how do you do this?
38:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'm a good guy.
38:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, great.
38:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a good guy.
38:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a good guy.
38:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you be in 10% to be fee be conno on going to the office?
38:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Jack, I go in.
38:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like.
38:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Hello, hi, how are you and Phoebe, that's what the pH is everybody to be able to She is more like getting around in your chair.
38:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay She says she's more talkative than anybody to that.
39:03
[SPEAKER_01]: It's ever been in that off.
39:05
[SPEAKER_01]: See me a little bit different.
39:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, um, anyway, okay, so big brother started last week and
39:12
[SPEAKER_02]: It is so nice to have it, but I always do find that the first week is very much like a tard.
39:16
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's a little bit overwhelming if you are a feeder because it's like, I don't even like, I get turn on feeds right now and kind of like not know what's happening.
39:24
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
39:25
[SPEAKER_02]: But at a certain point, you can tap into any conversation once, once in a
39:31
[SPEAKER_02]: You, you can just tap a new conversation at any point in kind of what's happening.
39:35
[SPEAKER_02]: But I know it's at a point in real entertaining.
39:37
[SPEAKER_01]: If I don't know them, if I turn the feeds on at this point, I'm kind of keeping it on mute on the multi-view.
39:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then waiting until like,
39:47
[SPEAKER_01]: less than love they're having a conversation yes because if it's a big group conversation not interested none of the good stuff happens there but yes smaller groups the interesting thing about the dynamic of the viewership though is that the casuals are only seeing what CBS wants them to see basically it's a really interesting take on like how much editing comes into play
40:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Angela said something about that on tonight's episode.
40:19
[SPEAKER_02]: She was like, you know, I was so worried or something about coming back into the house.
40:23
[SPEAKER_02]: And she said, she's like, I want to, I want to, I want to show the real me for the people who didn't watch the feeds last time and only saw whatever because it is true.
40:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Like,
40:33
[SPEAKER_02]: like a larger than life iconic reality TV character she had so many moments that were controversial that were hilarious that were whatever in same last year and that's all people talk about and that's all they see so they think of Angela they think of these iconic moments that also happened to be kind of unhinged moments and so she has a good channel in the season of unhinged she is a really good run on this season she's on traders next
40:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, get her at that round table.
41:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Alan coming, I feel like would love her.
41:05
[SPEAKER_01]: What's interesting about Angela is, well, also, I mean, she's just kind of, well, we're talking about here is an interesting thing about Big Brother as a whole, is the way that they kind of coach the house guests in the diary room.
41:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Which yes, my first season when I would watch the jump here at the jump there used to be comments on the sides of the live feeds and when I first started clocking in everybody, like, oh, like, Lee is in the DR, but I was reading as doctor doctor and so I was like all the time.
41:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, hey, they have me in tip top shape for this.
41:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
41:44
[SPEAKER_02]: They are going to check up every 30 minutes.
41:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's crazy.
41:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's crazy.
41:49
[SPEAKER_01]: They are similar in there.
41:50
[SPEAKER_01]: They are, but the way that they act in the diary room is, I mean, it's like Nickelodeon.
41:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let me get an idea of what else.
42:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, okay, Elvis, I'll be, I'll do one.
42:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Ready?
42:05
[SPEAKER_02]: What's up big brother?
42:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I cannot believe I'm here and I'm gonna freaking win this.
42:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Why I got the brains I got the bond and okay.
42:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I can be a little manipulative, but I won't show all my cards right away No sir.
42:19
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Miss Julie looking good.
42:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I vote for this.
42:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Shadow my mouth.
42:23
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you worth it?
42:27
[SPEAKER_02]: That is my impression of a big brother diary room.
42:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's a medley and what's perfect is that like I know it or what you nailed it so much so that I was like who's she quoting, you know, she Two things one is that I think of someone like cam from two seasons ago and I'm like, it goes to show.
42:48
[SPEAKER_01]: It goes to show that when you actually are just yourself the longevity is so different because like yeah, I don't remember how
42:56
[SPEAKER_01]: when fuckin' signed off in the diroom and you know it was freaky.
43:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And no, he was, I want to say that he was like, he was really horrifying, too.
43:06
[SPEAKER_01]: at first.
43:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you can buy the way one of the quintessential big brother archetypes is Quinn.
43:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's always a clan honestly this season.
43:18
[SPEAKER_02]: It is what's his name,
43:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I will learn them.
43:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say that Ashley, sorry, like honestly, she was fine, but like girl, you, you actually were the person who needed to get out because first of all Taylor, I gone home, I would have been pissed.
43:38
[SPEAKER_02]: But number two,
43:40
[SPEAKER_02]: you Angela said to you this is our plan we're going to keep you we're going to make sure your safe or dear whoever they're like these are all the votes you have boom you're good Ash is like awesome well i'm going to go let everyone know and she goes out that she's like hey guys how to love all right so Angela told me i got all these votes boop boop boop whenever it's like
43:59
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, we're voting Ashley out in her testimony or she goes she leads back on her chair.
44:06
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, she's like, okay, well, that's a load off.
44:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go take a nap and then she doesn't need some snack.
44:13
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, guys, I have a master plan.
44:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Like Angela just told me all of this, I'm going to go tell everyone.
44:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I let everybody know immediately.
44:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Like a good ally.
44:25
[SPEAKER_02]: And all right, see you on the block.
44:29
[SPEAKER_02]: But because she literally was just like, doesn't get this game and also like when she was walking back and forth in the yard with Melody baby, she's like, oh my god, like my body is like, get used to being active again, like first of all.
44:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Your body is to use a walking like you've actually been sedentary for seven months.
44:50
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you mean your body is?
44:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you need to go to physical therapy to learn how to regain movement of your legs?
44:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm confused by that.
44:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Number two, she's like, I mean if I don't, it was going to be like this.
44:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I would have done 75 hard before I came here.
44:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, you don't have to do 75 hard, but yeah, what weren't you thinking?
45:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you would need to be in maybe like you'd at least want to be in the best shape of your life.
45:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate to say it.
45:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Even if you aren't, that was helpful to me what you were hoping for.
45:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And we don't deal with this because we work out like freaking military men, but like skinny people.
45:23
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't think about often times they think that they're just fit like they'll be fine crazy.
45:30
[SPEAKER_02]: It is crazy.
45:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, like, I know, it is wild.
45:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking, though, like, I know I say this every year.
45:37
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys, I mean, I didn't apply this year.
45:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just be honest, I didn't apply this year because I was
45:45
[SPEAKER_02]: How could I miss that?
45:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you kidding?
45:47
[SPEAKER_02]: My first time initiating a wedding?
45:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll be first on first time.
45:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Not my last.
45:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure.
45:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I was a massive hit at this freaking wedding.
45:56
[SPEAKER_02]: The bride's mom commented on my picture and was like, you and your hobby with a life of the party.
46:01
[SPEAKER_02]: I told Brittany, I want to be wherever you are.
46:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
46:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, hello, mom.
46:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you and I mean, like, everyone's kind of what happened to me after Sam's bachelor read.
46:11
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we have a lot of facts and I have people saying brought it out.
46:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Sam's mom's best friend says the same.
46:20
[SPEAKER_01]: You need to set us at Phoebe's table.
46:23
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, yeah.
46:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
46:26
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a skill.
46:27
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a skill.
46:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, so, yes, I was doing that.
46:32
[SPEAKER_02]: So I didn't apply this year.
46:33
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm like next year.
46:37
[SPEAKER_02]: My summer's a wide fucking open babe.
46:39
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't committed to a thing.
46:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe I won't, maybe I won't.
46:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I won't, I need to carry you can't.
46:44
[SPEAKER_01]: You just have to let it, like, you have to be like in your mind, I think you have to be like I was driving home from rehearsal tonight and I said, all three times, I will be on big brother.
46:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I was true.
46:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think I actually did.
46:56
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys, we've said this before, but here's the thing about, like, I just, just to really like drive home, what we mean by the difference between the casuals and the live feeders.
47:06
[SPEAKER_02]: One thing about Ashley is I think that the live feeders and the casuals had the same opinion on her.
47:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
47:12
[SPEAKER_02]: The live feeders just made it thought she was a little bit more like goof.
47:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Like she's like the court jester, casuals were like, get her out of my game.
47:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
47:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Get that slut out of my game.
47:23
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what like she's got the casuals.
47:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about women.
47:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, the casuals are usually like these years.
47:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm about to give you guys all like a job, a couple jobs for an exam.
47:34
[SPEAKER_01]: When Caroline's on Big Brother eventually, one, everybody here listening needs to create a Facebook.com account.
47:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I actually start it now, start it now and you can type in your command build it up so that it looks like you have a Facebook, you know, I mean, yeah, you haven't just you're not like a bot for Caroline.
47:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not asking you to line just way, if you just wait, you just wait.
47:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I need you to build it up and you just build it up and you build it up, you know, make it look like a real account.
48:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And then when the time comes, I do want you guys, you guys may you want to have a choice, you will be feeders, but like,
48:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And you do to use your Facebook to act like casuals to infiltrate the casuals and to say we we you guys don't like Caroline we what you think she's a brace of wait you think she's kind of a lot No, no, no, no, no, no, no, she is a no, no, they can't say you're not on the full story because then they'll know okay.
48:31
[SPEAKER_01]: They have to say have you ever thought about it like this.
48:36
[SPEAKER_01]: If you ever, and then this is where you, I don't know what kind of game currency to be playing, I might for you.
48:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I might be a casual, you know what, you don't know what kind of game.
48:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be playing.
48:45
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's a guess.
48:46
[SPEAKER_01]: No, all I'm saying is like, I don't know what the story lines will be.
48:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So I can't tell you guys what to say right here.
48:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And now on July 16th, 2026, I think it's too far to the PM.
48:56
[SPEAKER_01]: But what I will say is like, you guys will know.
49:00
[SPEAKER_01]: How would she whatever narrative they're spinning about Caroline that has the change dot org petition.
49:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I need you guys to Turn it on said turn it on said hack freaking change dot org.
49:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and that those are Phoebe's words.
49:14
[SPEAKER_02]: My orders are hack the mainframe.
49:18
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but it is and I VBA love how hard you're writing for you right now because there was a part of me that was very worry that of two about two things Imagine clearly comes back and I have the podcast that that I've been running on she's don't big brother You can't pay for me.
49:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're in fucking sucks at this game.
49:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't push.
49:35
[SPEAKER_01]: She's so annoying I'm so nervous.
49:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I would there is literally burn burn all of the ground I wouldn't know who you were anymore though because I'd be famous anyway I
49:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I always I'm scared of two things one is that you don't think I could really go on and that you think and I know you do though But I'm saying that like those are were always my fears like one he was gonna be like hell, you are not getting tickets Not showing you like you were not going on that show and number two that Phoebe would be like embarrassed by it Imagine my joy my glee
50:09
[SPEAKER_02]: When I found out that not only does Phoebe want me to go on it, she's like already sure I will go on it's almost like we are like when we talk about it we're 10 years in the future looking back on an experience that happened already like we know it happened and now we're just like okay so that's next year like I believe
50:27
[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting.
50:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I just like what I watched that show the first time and felt in my bones that I was meant to play it I was like, okay, some people find their burgers a little later in life.
50:34
[SPEAKER_01]: That's me When I hate to say you're gonna hate this.
50:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you kind of I think you probably don't want to know, but like I maybe I'll go Maddie Bartone psychic
50:44
[SPEAKER_01]: has been, I'm going to say, Kicks, well, maybe I'll go on your behalf because she's been right about at least four things that have happened in Maddie's life.
50:54
[SPEAKER_02]: What if you go and you find out something like that you want to tell me that I don't want to know.
50:59
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you're like not able to not tell me he's as like serious.
51:04
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my fear.
51:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't go.
51:06
[SPEAKER_02]: don't go, I don't need it.
51:07
[SPEAKER_02]: That's going on, Beth.
51:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
51:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need it because here's the way to have you.
51:13
[SPEAKER_01]: She probably knows if you're going to go with it.
51:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Beth did tell me that she, this is years and years and years ago and I probably have shared this and was like,
51:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I know the sounds, but if you knew I am both, you'd know that it like isn't how it sounds.
51:26
[SPEAKER_01]: She said, and at least 10 calendar years, you will be on a blue carpet that is branded, okay, bear with me, bear with me, bear with me, bear with me.
51:36
[SPEAKER_01]: It is branded, the Marshall's blue carpet.
51:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if this does this means to me, do you lost culture rest us?
51:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Do, stop it.
51:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, I'm going to that extra decided.
51:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, um, anyway, no, no, no, no, in 28.
51:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
51:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Beth texted me when I was in college and she was like, by the way, I'm like 99.9% of your family famous.
52:00
[SPEAKER_02]: And I won't air out her business here, but she described to me,
52:06
[SPEAKER_02]: two vision.
52:06
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, I just want to be clear.
52:08
[SPEAKER_01]: We have a podcast together.
52:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't text me those.
52:11
[SPEAKER_01]: No, this was, I was in college.
52:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I said this.
52:14
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I know what I'm saying.
52:15
[SPEAKER_01]: If she can see into the future.
52:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but it's.
52:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, she only says care.
52:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I just said it wasn't going to air out her shit and you just fully set it.
52:23
[SPEAKER_02]: She not Raven back star.
52:25
[SPEAKER_02]: She just, she just, she just tech, I don't, she just texted me this when I was like 18.
52:30
[SPEAKER_02]: So be quiet.
52:31
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have a podcast.
52:33
[SPEAKER_02]: wasn't even hunter heads, but she texted me when I was like 18 and she was like, here's what I see in my head and she saw two like at one like vision of me.
52:46
[SPEAKER_02]: on a red carpet.
52:47
[SPEAKER_02]: She said, quote, something major.
52:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And she described it exactly what I was wearing.
52:51
[SPEAKER_02]: She was like, I have the hexamines like purple dress, like this embellish from the side.
52:55
[SPEAKER_02]: This is what your hair looks like.
52:56
[SPEAKER_02]: You're standing with something like the whole thing.
52:58
[SPEAKER_02]: And then she had another vision.
52:59
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was presenting in a ward on a stage at another like big time, seeming event.
53:06
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was in a gold dress and things looked different.
53:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was always like
53:14
[SPEAKER_02]: And then I was like, did I change, but I will say, listen, within the last year or two, she said to me that she should see it.
53:25
[SPEAKER_01]: But also think about what's been going on in your brain in the last couple weeks.
53:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe your intuition was right about where this might be.
53:40
[SPEAKER_00]: The first one.
53:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, whoa, guys, I'm so happy with video podcasts because that real-time reaction in Caroline's face was, whoa, whoa, and see that coming.
53:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, am I gonna be the first big brother house guest to win?
54:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So win America, win America's favorite player and win a Tony for best book and musical.
54:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Would you rather win AFP or win the whole thing?
54:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, or actually this is a better question because I feel like it's a pretty easy answer.
54:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Would you rather win AFP or be runer up?
54:23
[SPEAKER_01]: AFP.
54:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's how it here's here's my my like what I would love.
54:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Here are the things I would love to happen.
54:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously would love to win.
54:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a hard time believing that I would.
54:39
[SPEAKER_02]: for a multitude of reasons, but I think that I do, I would do very well.
54:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I, guys, that the gets really good that Caroline goes in to the house with this mentality.
54:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't tell them I, because they all want you to say like, I'm going to win.
54:51
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, I would say that, but and the thing is, I think that if conditions were perfect, I could absolutely win.
54:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I wouldn't volunteer myself to go on a show.
55:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't think I would be good at, you know.
55:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I also like I'm not going on to win it though.
55:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to play so bad.
55:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I want to play the game.
55:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to just like do it and like I would love to win, but success is like getting on the show for me.
55:15
[SPEAKER_01]: For the you kind of have like a Rachel violinist to you in that sense of like her coming back to be on the show is very much like,
55:22
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't to win.
55:23
[SPEAKER_02]: It was because you loved the game so much.
55:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
55:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is why people were rooting for her so much.
55:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was hard for casual to understand why.
55:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And like I obviously don't know the lower in the way, but like I was starting to understand it through Twitter and through hard to be on the show.
55:39
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's like I think I would be that type of character.
55:42
[SPEAKER_02]: She wanted it like earlier, I want to say I might be like a mix because I do have that like big sister vibe I get always into like collecting like and you have a little bit of a I mean I didn't watch her either but Brittany I think right yeah yeah I think so I'm
55:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like I'm so competitive and I would love to play a fucking game with people who don't like not want to play with me because of how competitive I am like people who are still that you only mean like I would be so excited to do that and I'm going to be mean to you about it exactly so many different kinds of games it's also like it's it's the world where like you really I'm really good at like
56:20
[SPEAKER_02]: It sounds badly.
56:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like good at social manipulation.
56:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't do it a lot, but like here's eight by having to get into what's happening in the house right now is that you're all in a smart enough to socially manipulate and then not go around the house telling everybody else that you've done that.
56:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Literally.
56:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Jason, what are you thinking exactly?
56:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm blown away.
56:42
[SPEAKER_02]: So what happened you guys is Jason's talking to Angela about how he's the only
56:49
[SPEAKER_02]: queer person in the house, and he's like, I, I wanted him with that.
56:53
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I've never been around this many straight people because he's also he's a he's a drag queen.
56:57
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a drag queen.
56:58
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been on drag racing stuff.
57:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
57:01
[SPEAKER_02]: And Angela's like, Oh my god, like my son is gay.
57:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And then so much when it came out to me, I.
57:07
[SPEAKER_02]: We're so bad about Angela.
57:10
[SPEAKER_01]: her son is like a big football player.
57:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
57:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And didn't come out to her until after she was on big brother.
57:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I mean, I don't know his story, but like it.
57:22
[SPEAKER_01]: She gives such a safe, she in that season, she gives such a safe space to everybody.
57:28
[SPEAKER_01]: No matter what that I do feel like her son must have seen a little bit of that and been like, it doesn't like she's going to, yeah, all.
57:35
[SPEAKER_01]: She's such a mom there.
57:36
[SPEAKER_01]: She's gonna love me.
57:37
[SPEAKER_02]: She's she's why this Jason thing pisses me off.
57:40
[SPEAKER_02]: It pisses me off because it's just like feels like I also I do think is there a coat of ethics in the back Brotherhouse to an extent There have been times of people have said things like I swear on my mother's life or whatever and like they Someone said I saw today someone said that their wife had cancer And now like they're those there are things that I think are like unex inexusible
58:03
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that you can lie as much as you need to about in-game things, things that are in-game.
58:07
[SPEAKER_02]: You can lie about yourself, but you need to learn from a little bit, like with- Of bout, like you can't adopt trauma that you have an experienced in order to manipulate a situation.
58:18
[SPEAKER_02]: That's where it's like-
58:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we see a lot of that on a lot of these shows, but it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's Jason, if you're not actually feeling this isolation that now you're putting on to Angela and she's having Because it, Angela is no longer having a gameplay response to Jason.
58:34
[SPEAKER_02]: No, and she's having a human idea about her son and he had known that that he might not have done this because maybe.
58:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that he was like, I'm going to go say this to this woman and she'll react one of a few different ways.
58:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's say she reacts in a way that makes me feel unwelcome.
58:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Boom, I get to go, we like, let's get her out of this fucking house.
58:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And listen, if that is how she would have reacted rightfully.
58:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Totally.
58:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, the other side of that coin is that he talks to her like this and she does what she does and embraces him and is like, I'm here for you, whatever.
59:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you try to use that.
59:10
[SPEAKER_02]: But what happened is it turns out that like she's a personal connection with your saying and so you're now playing with real feelings.
59:15
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not I just met you in a learning thing about you and I have empathy for you.
59:19
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like now I'm connecting you to my child and the way that I feel about that is different.
59:23
[SPEAKER_02]: So when you Now he turns around he's like that was such a fucking joke.
59:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I just fake cried to Angela.
59:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna use her like says this for like everybody in the house.
59:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And so at immediately gets back to Angela and she feels fucking terrible.
59:36
[SPEAKER_01]: If you, if that happens and you know that you were just in your own words, playing her, you go to the diary room and you say that.
59:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you don't go to fuck on Drew, right?
59:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell him what's happening.
59:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
59:51
[SPEAKER_02]: This is, it's like, I almost felt the people who were on previous or on some kind of reality show.
59:56
[SPEAKER_02]: They just like almost like adopt those rules and things, think it applies like, I don't know, you're in the game here where like,
1:00:02
[SPEAKER_02]: People are looking for anything to take and turn on the dressing and dry grace, right?
1:00:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not everybody's going around telling where they're like talking shit and it is like Also there's there's always that episode of dry grace where they all tell where that moment and every dressing room See and I feel like more someone tells their their story about coming out or anything like that and that's kind of a moment where
1:00:24
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll like, and oftentimes I feel like it's someone who is vulnerable, like it'll soften them to everybody else in the cast, yeah, it's not like that in me brother, well, and that's another thing I was going to say is like, I feel like it is too early in the game for certain things to be in play, which is like any kind of card, any kind of sympathy card that you're going to pull that is about your real life that could make it now, I don't believe that Jason knew that it was going to be that personal for Angela, I really don't.
1:00:50
[SPEAKER_02]: But then like once he realized it was, I think that he shouldn't have done what he did like just how this take the ally take the life raft know that you've got a powerful person on your side she's best friends with Steve and I told this week and hey, I don't tell anybody we're old what everybody think that.
1:01:06
[SPEAKER_02]: You that's really how you felt in that and then go on the diary room if you want if you want If you want to know if you want to you know, I mean, I don't think that's great for the casuals, but you know But it's like you can't say something shady the way it would be celebrated on drag race where we have whole Challenges about opening the library and reading each other for filth and it's like, oh, what a great read like it's comedy This isn't that there's not those kind of people so when you say the shady thing like I just played in her face
1:01:36
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not taking that as like oh ha ha joke or anything like that.
1:01:40
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not even when you're in your plane They're collecting information and they're going to use it whether or not you meant it and then Jason Here's my question.
1:01:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like this is where a different.
1:01:49
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the comparison that was being drawn on Twitter today between a player in the past two brought up that is wife at cancer, but you really didn't Jason today or yesterday brought up that is mom had passed away, which she actually did pass away to Angela
1:02:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And Angela was like hugging him and comforting him and like like he was like you're my mom in here
1:02:12
[SPEAKER_01]: and brought that up.
1:02:13
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like really, why are we doing it again?
1:02:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Even if she's real, it's like now is this real?
1:02:19
[SPEAKER_02]: She's a mom of a gay son.
1:02:21
[SPEAKER_02]: So when you say to her, she's away from her son, even if she's her, even if she's going to feel that way, no matter what, because she is a mom and she's going to feel that protective nature over you.
1:02:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And when you say that, it reaffirms to her that she should lean into that relationship,
1:02:41
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and it says where I don't know, like my moral compass with these games is different because on one hand, like, you know, I've never rooted for the faithfuls and traders, and I've never, like, I'm always kind of like the villain.
1:02:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think I probably would be a villain on the show in a way.
1:02:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Like not like a full full villain, but, you know, and that's originally, yeah, but at the same time, I just do think, like, there are something that you have aligned in the sand.
1:03:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I have a justice thing, or it's like, I'm not going to like treat
1:03:11
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:03:12
[SPEAKER_02]: That you don't deserve.
1:03:13
[SPEAKER_02]: And if I do lie cheap manipulate to you because of the game, I'll own up to it later, because that was the game.
1:03:20
[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of times, like, people were specced that in the end.
1:03:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if you really, but if you take it personal, it's like, feels like it's outside of the game, where you don't take accountability.
1:03:28
[SPEAKER_02]: That's something that you're like, wait a minute.
1:03:29
[SPEAKER_02]: What kind of person are you?
1:03:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Because if you can't not talk about it, then it's like, sorry, that was the game.
1:03:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I did all those things.
1:03:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And I hope that's why you see I should run this game.
1:03:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to compare it and not
1:03:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to compare it to events events for a second from last season and not because it was necessarily what you're talking about in terms of like going personal and outside of the game.
1:03:50
[SPEAKER_01]: But like yeah, are you going to you if you want to win so badly like what are you willing to sacrifice in terms of how like the world views you like are you willing to leave the house being viewed as a manipulative person who's willing to like you'd be like
1:04:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I was going to compare it to Hamilton, but I don't want to anymore, but like, no, but I know you're saying like, like, event spent the whole season telling everybody what they wanted to hear, playing every side of it, playing the shit ass game, fucking over people that he loved.
1:04:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And then really, like, so stressed at the end, it was like, we're watching him completely unravel in real time.
1:04:32
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he left and he didn't own really any of it.
1:04:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So people were like, okay, so you're just his person then.
1:04:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is what we've watched.
1:04:39
[SPEAKER_01]: You did do
1:04:42
[SPEAKER_02]: And you stand by it, and it's like, that's crazy.
1:04:45
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you would come out here and be like, sure to, like, the people who own it, and they're like, it's the game, and I really hope that you can see.
1:04:51
[SPEAKER_02]: And like, listen, I know for you.
1:04:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Because there's a difference between staying by it.
1:04:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I will make by it.
1:04:56
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a difference between standing by it and owning it.
1:04:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Vince didn't see that there, that difference, and he didn't come onto the, he didn't defend himself to the jury in a way of like, he was like, oh, he was like, I did do that.
1:05:09
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm gonna tell you why.
1:05:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was like, he didn't say, like, and this is the exact.
1:05:15
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't, like, they're just wanted to say that.
1:05:18
[SPEAKER_02]: You wanted him to say, yes, I didn't hear it.
1:05:20
[SPEAKER_01]: There were certain game players who would be able to come onto the stage and say, yes, I was put, like, if it's a chess game, yes, I took your queen and hurt you, but here are 800 reasons why that is why I'm going to explain to you why that.
1:05:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
1:05:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And it cannot be heard as an anger either.
1:05:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Like,
1:05:40
[SPEAKER_02]: I, it's honestly so often it's not personal.
1:05:42
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'd say, for I think I would have been student do.
1:05:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do think I would struggle at times with not making it personal because I, I do think that like,
1:05:57
[SPEAKER_02]: I just would I would like once I like don't fuck with you like I just don't really fuck with you and so it's like I think that there are things that other people will more easily get over than I would but also I am really therapists now like I've been therapy honestly like think of it and go in three years ago you know like even like though I was.
1:06:18
[SPEAKER_02]: in therapy like I'm in a totally different place now where I feel like I can regulate a little bit better and if I don't it's okay like it's I signed up for that it's good TV you're gonna watch me crash out you're going to watch me have bad moments but like hopefully at the end of the day like I'll still be able to see it come and just adjust.
1:06:40
[SPEAKER_02]: It's usually not just like me being mean to be mean it's like
1:06:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't imagine having like really nasty to somebody who like said something really nasty to me or someone that I'm really close with a game You'd be no one behalf of other people too.
1:06:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and I think that's the people would respect.
1:06:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I think and I think that's a reason people don't want to keep me in the game is like we can kind of get behind her and like she will say the things that like We wouldn't want to say because we don't want to hurt our game, but like some people can't say that you know what I mean like if if
1:07:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so like I'm trying my new customers like if Lyric we're to like say something whatever a certain way It wouldn't come off the same way as a D set it, you know what I mean?
1:07:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like they could say the same thing and like I think people would respect to D for it And they'd be like shut the fuck up to Lyric, you know So and I'm not comparing myself to that situation.
1:07:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Just saying that is like It just depends on your type.
1:07:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
1:07:36
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm when as soon as I hit send on my application this year
1:07:44
[SPEAKER_02]: It's starting to new recording.
1:07:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Can you hear me?
1:07:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you hear me?
1:08:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, can you hear me?
1:08:02
[SPEAKER_02]: He produced that.
1:08:03
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been a recording on our new track.
1:08:05
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's probably just me.
1:08:07
[SPEAKER_01]: This said that it was, um, dying.
1:08:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, but we can wrap up when I started I promise.
1:08:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
1:08:15
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's okay.
1:08:15
[SPEAKER_02]: We can we can start to wrap it up.
1:08:19
[SPEAKER_02]: any who it's kind of a weird week to like we can't there's not a ton of games to talk because honestly kept thinking to like when Angela started crashing out a little bit about Rome getting the whole house against her as Angela let's we do not need to worry about this right now like you're not on the block so actually no one like it does not matter if Rome has 10 people in the house on his side this week all of that can change tomorrow like it's okay this is the first week
1:08:45
[SPEAKER_02]: I would continue to invest in your relationships with D and Devons and whoever he was going to build.
1:08:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I think I would continue to invest in those relationships and just say, I'm going to I think keep driven the mix because it needs to not seem like it's like these these game veterans.
1:09:01
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I totally agree because they are going to be targets for sure, but it's going to be like, I think it will take honestly weeks to really for people to really get a good plan to get one of them out because it's not something you can just do in one week.
1:09:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I think if next week, do you want to be on the block?
1:09:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that they would have the balls to vote her out, even though that might be the thing that they should for their game.
1:09:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't know.
1:09:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I also think it's also she in health care came so much if, you know, at this point, you have if you vote one of those three veterans out there.
1:09:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have the cause these alliances have been really formed.
1:09:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, yeah, Angela and D, right.
1:09:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Devon's is on the block.
1:09:41
[SPEAKER_01]: They'll be trying to.
1:09:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like let's say like, yeah, exactly.
1:09:44
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, you would really have to make it so that you can get all three of them on the block, essentially, which is probably an happen soon if somebody else gets on all three of them on the block.
1:09:55
[SPEAKER_02]: hope that you can keep norms the same through video.
1:09:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you can't have a good representation, whatever, you would have to feel so good about yourself in terms of how good of a player.
1:10:05
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I think it would take me frankly, I think it would take planning for actually weeks.
1:10:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is another thing that we don't know yet, but I can't point out someone who I think is other than those three who have done something like this before.
1:10:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know who I think's a really good game players are I think realm could be he could be he's really really here's the thing like him I know but but listen I'm going to sell him to you not even I don't even like him but like he is a perfect person To play like to he's he's going to be great at this game because number one
1:10:41
[SPEAKER_02]: look at how quickly he got this girl to be obsessed with him.
1:10:44
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
1:10:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Like obsessed with him.
1:10:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we are actually talking about his own lyric, but it's been days.
1:10:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know like either how weak or you know, system is or how strong has it?
1:10:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't know which one it is, but there's that number two.
1:11:02
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that he, I mean, he has so many people who love him.
1:11:04
[SPEAKER_02]: He's really nice.
1:11:06
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like a woke king.
1:11:08
[SPEAKER_02]: He is handsome.
1:11:09
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a good talker.
1:11:10
[SPEAKER_02]: He can talk to you for one second and make you feel like you.
1:11:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, I see.
1:11:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess like just, but anti-species are not a great competitor other than him.
1:11:22
[SPEAKER_02]: People will, people will start seeing me as a threat and they'll get them on that block, you know, so yeah, but I just mean like those seem like the players I agree the rest of the cast as of right now, which is why we don't know much talk about it's like, yeah, it's a tough to tell super strong it's hard to tell they and they don't and it seems like.
1:11:40
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, but things will things heat up so fast like they're going to start like it's going to feel real now.
1:11:44
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, because three more people are going to be put up.
1:11:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And now it's like we've lit a fire under their ass.
1:11:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like someone's actually left.
1:11:51
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yeah, they're out of the honeymoon phase of just being in the big brother.
1:11:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
1:11:55
[SPEAKER_02]: exactly.
1:11:56
[SPEAKER_02]: And now you've got people who were on the block who are going to maybe be pissed off about it and wanting revenge.
1:12:01
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't want to say anything this week because they needed you all to still like them because they needed to be saved.
1:12:05
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, so that's the other thing is it's like, I could fucking hate your guts for putting me on the block.
1:12:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to look at you and tell you I understand.
1:12:11
[SPEAKER_02]: And then as soon as I'm off that block, you're dead to me.
1:12:14
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
1:12:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that is.
1:12:15
[SPEAKER_02]: They're on you next week.
1:12:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
1:12:17
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's right.
1:12:18
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's kind of like, so much is going to ramp up in this next week.
1:12:23
[SPEAKER_02]: half the alliance as we were saying it's like your first weekend in college your first semester in college like those aren't going to be your lifelong friends most likely you know the people that you go out with on the weekends because it's convenient those aren't your rider dies.
1:12:34
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we're kind of seeing right now.
1:12:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to be surprised if DNA and blend up hating each other and then coming back together in the end.
1:12:40
[SPEAKER_02]: If they both survival I don't know.
1:12:41
[SPEAKER_02]: But
1:12:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
1:12:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I love thinking this way.
1:12:44
[SPEAKER_02]: I love thinking strategically, I'm really good at this for you.
1:12:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
1:12:48
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I'm watching it this year.
1:12:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm in training.
1:12:50
[SPEAKER_02]: And you guys probably think I sound delusional, but I do think the vast majority of you who know this is one of my dreams also really think I could do it.
1:12:58
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you haven't heard this in my dream yet, baby, get on board.
1:13:02
[SPEAKER_02]: It's coming soon.
1:13:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, anyway, so I'm going to be a big brother, but for me for AFPA.
1:13:08
[SPEAKER_02]: And we've also been watching, but we're not really going to talk about it right now.
1:13:12
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been watching the valley.
1:13:13
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get the reunion maybe next week.
1:13:15
[SPEAKER_02]: So right two weeks.
1:13:18
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's been watching the valley in the city next gen. Those are kind of the shows that are, we're watching, but life feeds are occupying a lot of our time.
1:13:26
[SPEAKER_02]: So I said, Jesse, you're going to board a big brother.
1:13:28
[SPEAKER_02]: You've only missed a week.
1:13:29
[SPEAKER_02]: You could start right now and be fine.
1:13:31
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't need to know anything that's in this past five.
1:13:33
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even like that in yet.
1:13:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
1:13:38
[SPEAKER_02]: So now as the time you don't have to watch feeds, it is really fun to watch feeds.
1:13:43
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fun to be in on that.
1:13:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's fun to be in like the community is online that watch feeds.
1:13:48
[SPEAKER_02]: It just makes it a totally different game.
1:13:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you kind of want to see like, okay, I like reality TV, I wonder how much they're edited.
1:13:54
[SPEAKER_02]: This gives you a really good like example of what that can look like, you know.
1:13:59
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's just a great show.
1:14:00
[SPEAKER_02]: So get on that.
1:14:01
[SPEAKER_02]: It's on
1:14:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to have real housewives ultimate girls trip coming up on August 9th.
1:14:07
[SPEAKER_02]: And Phoebe and I will be clocked in for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So please check in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We will be watching all the posting more schedules.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for dealing with our flightiness and whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But we'll see you next Tuesday and Friday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We love you guys so much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tell everyone you know about us.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll see you next week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And spot as well.