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- 0:04Speaker 1: Here's a handoff to Dowdle, starts left, cuts back right,
- 0:07Speaker 1: inside the five, and into.
- 0:08Speaker 2: The end zone! Touchdown, Pittsburgh Steelers!
- 0:12Speaker 1: They're set up for the Steel City shove.
- 0:14Speaker 3: Here's Friar moves straight ahead, and the pushing, and the shoving,
- 0:18Speaker 3: and the touchdown, Pittsburgh Steelers!
- 0:22Speaker 1: Rodgers, under center, tightly bunched formation, turns, gives, and this
- 0:26Speaker 1: is Jalen Warren, and Jalen.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Warren is in.
- 0:30Speaker 1: For a Pittsburgh Steelers touchdown!
- 0:33Speaker 4: This is the Steelers Report with Brian Batko and Ed
- 0:37Speaker 4: Troop on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers
- 0:41Speaker 4: Audio Network.
- 0:42Speaker 3: Those were the three touchdowns from this past Sunday's big
- 0:46Speaker 3: Steeler victory against the Cleveland Browns, 27-6. Steelers in their
- 0:51Speaker 3: bye week sit atop the AFC North and have a
- 0:55Speaker 3: four-game win streak to help get through these next two weeks.
- 0:59Speaker 1: Brian, it's a lot better than the flip side of
- 1:02Speaker 1: all this, right?
- 1:03Speaker 3: We said during those four games, if they went 3-1,
- 1:05Speaker 3: they'd be 5-3. If they do worse, 2-2, they'd be
- 1:10Speaker 3: at 500 at this point. But best case scenario is
- 1:13Speaker 3: what we just saw these last couple of weeks. 4-0
- 1:16Speaker 3: stretch of games, 6-2, and atop the AFC North.
- 1:20Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it feels probably like a long time
- 1:22Speaker 5: ago that the Steelers were 2-2 coming off of that
- 1:25Speaker 5: loss to the Browns and I think even optimistic fans
- 1:28Speaker 5: weren't entirely sure where they would go from there. Not
- 1:31Speaker 5: to mention the defeat in Foxborough against the Patriots that
- 1:34Speaker 5: was so disconcerting at the time. But clearly, Mike McCarthy
- 1:40Speaker 5: and this team have a lot of resolve. And right
- 1:44Speaker 5: now they're doing it. I thought I was listening to
- 1:47Speaker 5: our pals on the Blitz, Tom Offerman and Vince Williams
- 1:49Speaker 5: this morning, driving around on my way to go vote.
- 1:52Speaker 5: You know, happy election day out there to people. Good
- 1:55Speaker 5: day for democracy.
- 1:56Speaker 1: Make sure you get out and vote.
- 1:57Speaker 5: Also National Sandwich Day. Okay. But we're not eating sandwiches
- 2:01Speaker 5: because we've got a nice little Mediterranean spread here at
- 2:04Speaker 5: the iHeart Studios. Maybe I'll have to have a sandwich
- 2:07Speaker 5: for dinner. Just in observance of National Sandwich Day. You've
- 2:11Speaker 5: got to be able to celebrate it. Correct.
- 2:12Speaker 1: What's your favorite sandwich?
- 2:14Speaker 5: You have a go-to? Italian hoagie is tough to beat
- 2:18Speaker 5: in my mind, but so is a Philly cheesesteak.
- 2:20Speaker 1: Oh, man.
- 2:21Speaker 5: Technically a sandwich. It's a hoagie, but there's a Two
- 2:25Speaker 5: good ones.
- 2:26Speaker 1: I'm with you.
- 2:27Speaker 5: Yeah, I know there's a groundswell of support for the
- 2:30Speaker 5: Reuben and things of that nature, but that's more of
- 2:32Speaker 5: like a... That's not like your everyday sandwich. I was
- 2:35Speaker 5: going to say, I'd have a Reuben twice a year.
- 2:37Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a project, especially if you make it at home.
- 2:40Speaker 3: There's a lot going on there.
- 2:41Speaker 2: Right.
- 2:41Speaker 5: But good. It's heavy.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Yeah, and heavy.
- 2:44Speaker 5: That sticks to your ribs. But as far as the
- 2:46Speaker 5: everyday or once-a-week sandwich, I think you can't go wrong
- 2:49Speaker 5: with a cold-cut Italian, something along those lines.
- 2:53Speaker 1: I'm a salami guy. Give me like a salami and
- 2:55Speaker 1: provolone or something.
- 2:56Speaker 2: Prosciutto.
- 2:56Speaker 1: Oh, prosciutto. Yeah. Mike, not to be confused with Mike Prosciutto.
- 3:00Speaker 5: Prosciutto.
- 3:01Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 3:01Speaker 1: Prosciutto, prosciutto.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Yep, yep.
- 3:03Speaker 5: But yeah, and also, you know, like a, chicken chicken
- 3:08Speaker 5: breast sandwich or something along those lines too I'm not
- 3:10Speaker 5: a big are you big chicken salad or tuna salad.
- 3:12Speaker 3: No I don't like mayo I don't either yeah uh
- 3:15Speaker 3: don't even get me started oh my god see Brian
- 3:17Speaker 3: Beckett why we get along so well don't even get
- 3:19Speaker 3: me started on the mayo um no I'm with you
- 3:22Speaker 3: there absolutely uh with where the stewards currently sit and
- 3:25Speaker 3: you and I were talking a bit off the air
- 3:27Speaker 3: before we started the show today about where they truly
- 3:30Speaker 3: are after eight games and Well, we know they're in
- 3:32Speaker 3: first place. We know they're 6-2. We know that they
- 3:35Speaker 3: just split with the Cleveland Browns. But this game coming
- 3:39Speaker 3: out of the break, and we'll talk about it even
- 3:40Speaker 3: more next week when we lead up to the Sunday
- 3:43Speaker 3: night game in Cincinnati.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Another big AFC.
- 3:46Speaker 3: All the AFC North matchups are always big, Brian, but
- 3:48Speaker 3: this will be another key one in both the Steelers
- 3:50Speaker 3: and Bengals season, because now the Bengals are in the
- 3:52Speaker 3: Steelers spot.
- 3:53Speaker 1: They don't want to get swept by the Steelers.
- 3:56Speaker 3: They're the Steelers of the Browns matchup that we just
- 3:59Speaker 3: went through. They can't get swept by the Steelers if
- 4:00Speaker 3: they want any chance in the AFC North.
- 4:03Speaker 1: True.
- 4:03Speaker 5: I just realized, though, I got derailed by the sandwich talk.
- 4:06Speaker 5: I was about to say I was listening to Tom
- 4:08Speaker 5: and Vince.
- 4:08Speaker 2: That's right.
- 4:09Speaker 5: You did have a point. I was driving around, going
- 4:11Speaker 5: to vote.
- 4:12Speaker 2: All right.
- 4:12Speaker 5: We'll figure out how we even got here, but I
- 4:15Speaker 5: thought they were making a really salient point that this
- 4:20Speaker 5: team is kind of getting these wins done with lesser
- 4:24Speaker 5: parts than we expected. I mean, no Derek Harmon, no
- 4:27Speaker 5: Sebastian Joseph Day, no Michael Pittman Jr., no Roman Wilson.
- 4:31Speaker 5: And yet they're still finding– and Deshaun Elliott has barely played.
- 4:34Speaker 5: He's been back for, what, two games. And yet they're
- 4:37Speaker 5: still finding a way to keep their head above water,
- 4:41Speaker 5: take care of business. win the quote-unquote games you're supposed
- 4:44Speaker 5: to win, which I'm not even really sure what that
- 4:46Speaker 5: means anymore in today's NFL. So I think that is
- 4:50Speaker 5: a testament to Mike McCarthy, the coaching staff, the veteran
- 4:53Speaker 5: leadership of this group.
- 4:55Speaker 1: I agree.
- 4:57Speaker 5: I mean, I think there's just when you bring back
- 4:58Speaker 5: an Aaron Rodgers at quarterback and you continue to employ
- 5:03Speaker 5: stalwarts such as Cam Hayward, TJ Watt, you bring back
- 5:07Speaker 5: Jalen Ramsey, I think what should be baked into that
- 5:10Speaker 5: is a certain floor. And this team is playing well
- 5:14Speaker 5: above the floor right now at 6-2. They're already setting
- 5:17Speaker 5: themselves up for a nice floor for the entirety of
- 5:21Speaker 5: this season. Knock on wood, of course. But, yeah, I mean,
- 5:25Speaker 5: it is impressive that they're doing this while, yes, injuries
- 5:28Speaker 5: have ravaged teams on their schedule and around the league.
- 5:31Speaker 5: But it's not like the Steelers have kept a clean sheet.
- 5:33Speaker 5: So kudos to them. And the vision has been coming
- 5:37Speaker 5: together for the most part thus far, highlighted today. significantly
- 5:42Speaker 5: by this four game stretch here this unbeaten four game stretch.
- 5:44Speaker 3: Here coming up on the show today we got a
- 5:47Speaker 3: lot of good things planned for you on our next
- 5:50Speaker 3: segment we will hear from Steelers defensive coordinator Patrick Graham
- 5:54Speaker 3: And also to wrap up our number one today, we'll
- 5:56Speaker 3: hear from Steelers offensive coordinator Brian Angelico. Hour two, our
- 6:00Speaker 3: top ten moments and plays from this past Sunday. And
- 6:03Speaker 3: we'll finish up the show with Chris Adamski from Trib Live.
- 6:07Speaker 1: Steelers beat reporter. Will join us to close out the show.
- 6:10Speaker 3: Chris, a reunion of such was with Brian Bacco in
- 6:13Speaker 3: the booth at Chuck Knoll Field in Latrobe over this
- 6:15Speaker 3: past summer.
- 6:16Speaker 1: We had a great time.
- 6:17Speaker 3: Two-and-a-half-week stretch, bringing live training camp action here on SNR
- 6:21Speaker 3: each and every day, Chris, myself, and Double B. But, Brian,
- 6:24Speaker 3: I want to talk about the coordinators, and we will
- 6:27Speaker 3: hear from them coming up next. But before that, you
- 6:29Speaker 3: have an article up on Steelers.com, a well-coordinated and connected front,
- 6:34Speaker 3: and you led with Brian Angelico in your article after
- 6:37Speaker 3: the coordinator spoke yesterday.
- 6:39Speaker 5: Yeah, Brian Angelico, offensive coordinator. Obviously, he's not calling the
- 6:42Speaker 5: plays on a daily basis or weekly basis for the Steelers,
- 6:46Speaker 5: but his job is to coordinate the offense that's in
- 6:49Speaker 5: the description for Angelico and I think it's hard to
- 6:51Speaker 5: argue with this thing looks pretty well coached right now
- 6:55Speaker 5: and sure you can focus on the big stuff like
- 6:58Speaker 5: the you know Jalen Warren's explosive start to this season
- 7:03Speaker 5: the running game just mauling people the last couple weeks
- 7:06Speaker 5: specifically but really they've they've been efficient all year to
- 7:09Speaker 5: be honest that happened even those first couple games where
- 7:12Speaker 5: the offense was moving in fits and starts I It's
- 7:15Speaker 5: easy to forget that against the Falcons, they had a
- 7:17Speaker 5: defensive touchdown that propped them up somewhat. Seems like ages ago,
- 7:21Speaker 5: by the way.
- 7:21Speaker 2: It does.
- 7:21Speaker 5: It really does. But even in those games, Jalen Warren
- 7:25Speaker 5: had been a bright spot. The run game at times
- 7:27Speaker 5: had been a bright spot. It was more so Warren,
- 7:30Speaker 5: I guess, pass catching out of the backfield than lining
- 7:32Speaker 5: it up and running it. But since week three, when
- 7:35Speaker 5: that new look O-line stepped in, I think by and large,
- 7:38Speaker 5: they've run it pretty efficiently. That's all the major... and subplots,
- 7:45Speaker 5: but even the little things, I think they've been on
- 7:48Speaker 5: their P's and Q's. Lack of false starts is really good. Pre-snap,
- 7:55Speaker 5: you know, illegal shift, I think there's been one called
- 7:58Speaker 5: on them all season. Illegal formation, I think there's been
- 8:01Speaker 5: one called on them all season.
- 8:03Speaker 1: Here's your stats from your article.
- 8:04Speaker 3: For the season, the Steelers have just four false starts,
- 8:07Speaker 3: two illegal shifts, one illegal formation penalty, and one ineligible
- 8:11Speaker 3: man downfield. which highlights, as you wrote, Brian, and you're right,
- 8:15Speaker 3: the attention to detail and execution from this offensive group.
- 8:18Speaker 5: That's focus. That's preparation. Playing out in-game. Now that's on
- 8:22Speaker 5: the players, obviously, to execute and have that awareness when
- 8:26Speaker 5: you're on the field, but it's absolutely on the coaching
- 8:29Speaker 5: as well to have those guys so honed in on
- 8:33Speaker 5: what they're trying to do offensively within the scheme, but
- 8:37Speaker 5: also just the finer points, the nuances of playing offensive
- 8:41Speaker 5: football at a high level. it's adding up to big
- 8:44Speaker 5: things is, is really the, the bottom line there.
- 8:47Speaker 3: And you and I mentioned this yesterday on the show,
- 8:49Speaker 3: but you know, there's, there are two clear events that
- 8:52Speaker 3: took place in these first eight weeks of the regular
- 8:54Speaker 3: season that have turned the tides for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
- 8:57Speaker 3: One was the week three offensive line shift, the Brock
- 9:01Speaker 3: Hoffman and Maxi on a chore on that right side,
- 9:03Speaker 3: no doubt, clear difference. If you look at the numbers
- 9:06Speaker 3: and we will break down the numbers, we're out of
- 9:07Speaker 3: our hits and misses tomorrow. And I can tell you,
- 9:09Speaker 3: it's going to be a big part of our hits tomorrow.
- 9:11Speaker 3: this Steeler offense since that change has been made in
- 9:13Speaker 3: the last four games and the other is Patrick Graham
- 9:16Speaker 3: coming down from the booth to the field which happened
- 9:18Speaker 3: after the Thursday night game in Cleveland when there was
- 9:21Speaker 3: a lot of miscommunication going on with the defense the
- 9:24Speaker 3: following week he's on the field he's there with that
- 9:28Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts game and since the Steelers have won four
- 9:30Speaker 3: straight no doubt those two events on defense and offense
- 9:34Speaker 3: in the first half of the season have made all
- 9:35Speaker 3: the world of difference.
- 9:37Speaker 5: Yeah I've made this point before I think it bears
- 9:40Speaker 5: repeating You've got to give credit to Mike McCarthy, who's ultimately,
- 9:44Speaker 5: you know, I'm sure a lot of people in his
- 9:45Speaker 5: year make suggestions, whether that's for staying on the field
- 9:50Speaker 5: with a second left in the first half in Sunday's
- 9:53Speaker 5: win against the Browns, which apparently Aaron Rodgers was advocating for.
- 9:56Speaker 5: He wasn't coming off the field.
- 9:57Speaker 1: It was a big roll of a dice, but it
- 9:59Speaker 1: worked out.
- 10:00Speaker 5: Ultimately, it's Mike McCarthy's call. Danny Smith, the old special
- 10:04Speaker 5: teams coordinator, always used to say, assistants make suggestions, head
- 10:08Speaker 5: coaches make decisions. Those were big decisions to switch up
- 10:13Speaker 5: the personnel on the offensive line after just two games.
- 10:16Speaker 5: I'm more of the patient type. I probably would have
- 10:18Speaker 5: let it play out, but maybe you don't uh maybe
- 10:22Speaker 5: you don't win one of those two games if you
- 10:24Speaker 5: don't make that switch or maybe you aren't gelling the
- 10:26Speaker 5: way you are now if you don't make that switch
- 10:28Speaker 5: at that time so i i give a ton of
- 10:30Speaker 5: credit to mccarthy for having that feel for it and
- 10:32Speaker 5: just going for it and there's there's no role against
- 10:34Speaker 5: switching back you know it's not this isn't soccer you
- 10:37Speaker 5: sub somebody out and you can't sub them back in
- 10:40Speaker 5: so yeah i mean i i think that that was
- 10:42Speaker 5: huge and i know um you know, you could probably,
- 10:46Speaker 5: it's a double-edged sword. You could criticize it. Like, why
- 10:48Speaker 5: didn't they have Graham on the field from the beginning? Yeah.
- 10:52Speaker 5: And yet I give them credit for recognizing that that
- 10:55Speaker 5: was something that could easily be changed and was changed.
- 10:59Speaker 5: And I think it's made a world of difference. We'll
- 11:01Speaker 5: hear more from Graham about that. Not necessarily that specific
- 11:05Speaker 5: mechanism to the defense playing better, but just the overall
- 11:09Speaker 5: tonal shift, turning point, pivot, whatever you want to call
- 11:13Speaker 5: it coming out of that first Cleveland game but yeah
- 11:16Speaker 5: I mean ultimately those things are under the purview of
- 11:19Speaker 5: the head coach and Mike McCarthy had a sense of
- 11:22Speaker 5: urgency here he obviously wasn't just changing for the sake
- 11:24Speaker 5: of change he saw some room to grow and improve
- 11:28Speaker 5: and it has happened hence the four game win streak you.
- 11:31Speaker 3: Know when Mike McCarthy put this coaching staff together and
- 11:34Speaker 3: listen Brian I'm I'm a firm believer in in all
- 11:37Speaker 3: of sports and football especially being a head coach and
- 11:40Speaker 3: even outside of sports even in an organization when you're
- 11:43Speaker 3: in a management position you surround yourself with good quality folks.
- 11:48Speaker 1: In football, it's coaches.
- 11:49Speaker 3: When you're able to do that, the results will follow.
- 11:52Speaker 3: The coaches that are great in this game, when you
- 11:55Speaker 3: look back through the history of the NFL, have had
- 11:57Speaker 3: really good assistants who, by the way, have most likely
- 11:59Speaker 3: gone on to become good head coaches themselves. I think
- 12:02Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy has found some good ones. I talked about
- 12:05Speaker 3: this yesterday on the show towards the tail end when
- 12:07Speaker 3: we were listening to some of the post-game sound. When
- 12:11Speaker 3: you look at Patrick Graham, the defensive coordinator, Even Coach
- 12:15Speaker 3: Angelico that we're going to hear from here in this
- 12:17Speaker 3: first hour as well. Coach Campy on that offensive line.
- 12:20Speaker 3: Even Tom Arth, the quarterback's coach. They truly do have
- 12:23Speaker 3: a really good coaching staff that they've put together here
- 12:26Speaker 3: throughout this 2026 season. It's the first season, so back
- 12:29Speaker 3: to your point. With Patrick Graham coming down from the
- 12:31Speaker 3: booth to the field, we didn't know that.
- 12:33Speaker 1: They didn't know that.
- 12:34Speaker 3: Because it's the first year. It's a first-year coaching staff,
- 12:36Speaker 3: but so far the results have been good.
- 12:38Speaker 5: I remember looking into that when the Steelers first hired
- 12:42Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy, he does have a pretty nice coaching tree
- 12:44Speaker 5: from guys who branched out from working under him in,
- 12:48Speaker 5: in both green Bay and Dallas. I mean, just looking
- 12:50Speaker 5: around the league right now, Brian Schottenheimer is the head
- 12:53Speaker 5: coach of the Cowboys. Now that's, you know, they promoted
- 12:56Speaker 5: him from within, but still Kellen Moore over with the saints,
- 13:00Speaker 5: the Steelers just another one worked under McCarthy worked other
- 13:03Speaker 5: places too, but it's, it's all part of the, you know,
- 13:06Speaker 5: the nurturing of a coach, Dan Quinn, you know, he,
- 13:10Speaker 5: had been a head coach i think and then comes
- 13:12Speaker 5: back to dallas to coordinate the cowboys defense and springboards
- 13:16Speaker 5: right back to being the commander's head coach so uh
- 13:19Speaker 5: yeah i mean i i liked what he did with
- 13:21Speaker 5: that staff right away it was it was a big
- 13:25Speaker 5: undertaking because not only do the steelers rarely ever change
- 13:29Speaker 5: head coaches but that means they also rarely have full
- 13:32Speaker 5: sale or whole wholesale uh changes full staff changes like
- 13:36Speaker 5: that so I mean that was a yes that was
- 13:39Speaker 5: a big endeavor he kept two coaches one on each
- 13:41Speaker 5: side of the ball Tom Arth uh the QB's coach
- 13:43Speaker 5: and um Scott McCurley the inside linebackers coach how's that
- 13:47Speaker 5: unit playing so far he in McCurley they they both
- 13:50Speaker 5: had experience uh playing under or working under Mike McCarthy
- 13:55Speaker 5: so that continuity there's probably some value in that as
- 13:58Speaker 5: well but That's a that's kind of a random aside
- 14:01Speaker 5: to start today's show. Shout out to Scott McCurley and
- 14:03Speaker 5: what Patrick Queen and Peyton Wilson are doing in a
- 14:07Speaker 5: new scheme, how they've looked, how they're playing. Talked about
- 14:09Speaker 5: that on the Blitz this morning with Vince and Tom
- 14:12Speaker 5: to those two guys. Just the change of scenery and
- 14:15Speaker 5: the fresh start seems to have done them very well.
- 14:18Speaker 5: And there was a lot of hand wringing from the
- 14:20Speaker 5: outside about the Steelers not trying to upgrade or change
- 14:24Speaker 5: things at that spot.
- 14:25Speaker 3: Another tease for tomorrow's show with our hits and misses
- 14:27Speaker 3: for the week, the inside linebacker spot with Patrick Queen
- 14:31Speaker 3: and Peyton Wilson could also be a big part of
- 14:34Speaker 3: our hits so far for the Pittsburgh Steelers this season.
- 14:36Speaker 1: They've played very well. in that inside.
- 14:38Speaker 3: Like I said, I've come on this program throughout the
- 14:41Speaker 3: last few weeks, Brian, and I've talked about Peyton Wilson
- 14:44Speaker 3: being one of the most important and best defensive players.
- 14:46Speaker 3: And that says a lot because the edge rushers and
- 14:48Speaker 3: TJ Watt and company, they're the ones that put up
- 14:50Speaker 3: the stats. But if you're watching Steelers football week in
- 14:52Speaker 3: and week out, Peyton Wilson has been a big reason why.
- 14:56Speaker 3: this defense has played as well as they have. Whenever
- 14:58Speaker 3: we come back, we're going to hear from Patrick Graham,
- 15:01Speaker 3: one of our favorites here on the show that we
- 15:03Speaker 3: listen to each and every week, the Pittsburgh Steelers, and
- 15:07Speaker 3: we stay awake.
- 15:08Speaker 1: During that too.
- 15:08Speaker 3: So each and every week here on the show, Patrick
- 15:11Speaker 3: Graham up next.
- 15:13Speaker 1: He's back. Oh, I'm Troop.
- 15:14Speaker 3: It's the Steelers report right here on Steelers Nation Radio,
- 15:17Speaker 3: part of the Steelers Audio Network.
- 15:20Speaker 2: We'll be right back.
- 15:27Speaker 4: This is the Steelers report with Brian Bacco and Ed
- 15:31Speaker 4: Truth on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers
- 15:35Speaker 4: Audio Network.
- 15:36Speaker 3: Brian Bacco opens up the show today about National Sandwich Day.
- 15:41Speaker 3: So we diverted for a few minutes and I thought
- 15:43Speaker 3: to myself, we could probably spend a whole segment talking
- 15:46Speaker 3: about sandwiches. One of our favorites, one of our least favorites.
- 15:51Speaker 3: Yesterday after the show, Brian, on my way home, uh,
- 15:54Speaker 3: My sons were off of school yesterday and today. A
- 15:56Speaker 3: little two-day mini fall break before they go back tomorrow.
- 16:00Speaker 3: And I brought Primanti Brothers. Now, there's a Primanti's right
- 16:02Speaker 3: over the hill from our studios here. So, popped in
- 16:05Speaker 3: real quick, brought them some sandwiches home. Maybe I should
- 16:08Speaker 3: do that again today. But my youngest son, Brendan, his
- 16:11Speaker 3: go-to is pastrami and cheese, which is also my go-to. So,
- 16:14Speaker 3: I guess he gets it from me. I love pastrami
- 16:16Speaker 3: and cheese. That's my favorite Primanti's.
- 16:18Speaker 5: I switch back and forth. Sometimes that, sometimes cap and cheese.
- 16:23Speaker 5: Sometimes I go with the OG steak and cheese, and
- 16:25Speaker 5: sometimes the Cajun chicken is also pretty good. How about
- 16:29Speaker 5: pit beef sandwiches? Have you ever had one of those?
- 16:32Speaker 5: That's like a Chicago delicacy on my mind.
- 16:36Speaker 1: That's not the beef on whack buffalo.
- 16:37Speaker 5: No, that's buffalo. Pit beef is more like beef in
- 16:41Speaker 5: a hoagie roll, and it's just sopping wet with peppers.
- 16:45Speaker 5: It's coming to mind because I'm getting hungry. because the
- 16:48Speaker 5: Bears cooked the Seahawks last night on Monday Night Football.
- 16:52Speaker 1: That's why you're the award-winning journalist.
- 16:53Speaker 5: Did you stay up for it? Did you watch? I
- 16:55Speaker 5: won the battle against the Couch last night.
- 16:57Speaker 1: I did not.
- 16:58Speaker 2: Okay. It was a good game.
- 16:59Speaker 1: I made it to halftime.
- 17:00Speaker 5: I mean, the Bears pulled away, but those are two
- 17:03Speaker 5: really good teams.
- 17:04Speaker 2: They are.
- 17:05Speaker 5: Playmaking all over the place on offense and defense. I
- 17:09Speaker 5: think those two teams are– it's kind of– it's a
- 17:13Speaker 5: shame because– I think there's a good chance that the
- 17:16Speaker 5: seven best teams in the NFC are from two divisions.
- 17:19Speaker 5: The entire NFC North and then Niners, Seahawks, and I'm
- 17:23Speaker 5: still not counting out the Rams in the NFC West.
- 17:26Speaker 5: On a neutral field, I'm taking all seven of those
- 17:28Speaker 5: teams over anybody from the NFC East and anybody from
- 17:32Speaker 5: the NFC South. However, the Bucs seem like they're trending
- 17:36Speaker 5: in the right direction.
- 17:37Speaker 3: There is absolutely a scenario at the end of this season.
- 17:40Speaker 3: There's only seven playoff spots, right? Four of those seven
- 17:44Speaker 3: go to division winners, so you will have a winner
- 17:46Speaker 3: from the North and you'll also have a winner from
- 17:47Speaker 3: the West. But the other teams, you're going to give
- 17:50Speaker 3: up two spots for the East winner and the South winner,
- 17:53Speaker 3: which means out of those seven teams, the four from
- 17:55Speaker 3: the North and three, we're not going to count the
- 17:56Speaker 3: Cardinals in the West. that there's going to be two
- 17:59Speaker 3: of those teams, Brian, that are going to miss the playoffs,
- 18:01Speaker 3: and they'll probably have 10 or more wins, and the
- 18:04Speaker 3: two winners from the East and the South potentially could
- 18:07Speaker 3: be 8-9 and have a losing.
- 18:09Speaker 1: Record making the playoffs.
- 18:11Speaker 3: It's wild, but it's the NFL and it's the playoff
- 18:13Speaker 3: scenarios that unfortunately in this situation take place sometimes.
- 18:17Speaker 5: Things are a lot more balanced in the AFC as
- 18:19Speaker 5: I look at this.
- 18:21Speaker 1: A lot more.
- 18:22Speaker 5: It's the AFC North that is at the head of
- 18:25Speaker 5: the class right now with the Steelers. Bengals and Browns
- 18:28Speaker 5: in the three six and eight spots uh current respectively
- 18:33Speaker 5: but then you've got the Bills and Pats are both
- 18:35Speaker 5: in the playoffs if it started today from the AFC
- 18:37Speaker 5: East the Broncos and Chiefs from the AFC West who
- 18:41Speaker 5: I realize they've already met twice this season too so
- 18:44Speaker 5: they're kind of like the Steelers and the Browns and
- 18:46Speaker 5: it was inverse though because season opener Chiefs demolished them
- 18:51Speaker 5: and then on the flip side on the way back
- 18:53Speaker 5: here Broncos won a close one uh to even that
- 18:56Speaker 5: series so Yeah, I mean, I think that you've got
- 19:00Speaker 5: the Jaguars obviously way out in front in the AFC South,
- 19:03Speaker 5: but that's just one division that isn't pulling its weight. Otherwise,
- 19:07Speaker 5: the AFC is fairly balanced. And when I say balanced,
- 19:11Speaker 5: I mean from top to bottom pretty much because you've
- 19:14Speaker 5: got the dregs in each division as well with the
- 19:17Speaker 5: Chargers bringing up the rear of the AFC West, only
- 19:19Speaker 5: winless teams still remaining. The Titans and the Colts going
- 19:23Speaker 5: nowhere fast, actually selling off assets left and right in
- 19:27Speaker 5: the AFC South. And then, of course, the Dolphins and
- 19:30Speaker 5: Jets going nowhere fast. I don't know what to make
- 19:32Speaker 5: of the Ravens because, you know, Joe Fagnano apparently is
- 19:38Speaker 5: going to start at QB for them. If he's healthy,
- 19:41Speaker 5: they might have to go vintage Miami Dolphins and run
- 19:44Speaker 5: the Wildcat. Where's Jalen Samuels right now? Is Jalen Samuels
- 19:48Speaker 5: around and available to help out?
- 19:50Speaker 1: There's a good call right there. I don't have much faith.
- 19:53Speaker 1: A Steelers callback, yeah. I don't have.
- 19:55Speaker 3: Much faith in the Ravens from a couple different standpoints.
- 19:58Speaker 3: Even before the Lamar Jackson injury, that defense has given up, what,
- 20:02Speaker 3: 70-plus points in the last two weeks? Just incredible. Now
- 20:05Speaker 3: they've faced two very good offenses in the last two weeks.
- 20:07Speaker 3: I get that part of it. But that defense has
- 20:09Speaker 3: not been like the old school Ravens defense you see
- 20:11Speaker 3: year after year. Now you take the quarterback part of
- 20:13Speaker 3: this out. You have a first-year head coach in Jesse Minner.
- 20:17Speaker 3: How's he going to respond? I mean, if John Harbaugh's there, Brian,
- 20:20Speaker 3: and listen, Mike McCarthy, I know he's a first-year Steeler
- 20:23Speaker 3: head coach, but he has 15-plus head coaching years of experience.
- 20:27Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin did this many years here in Pittsburgh where
- 20:31Speaker 3: he didn't lose the locker room ever despite injuries and
- 20:33Speaker 3: what was going on. And heck, you know, I know
- 20:35Speaker 3: you can make that nine and eight argument and, you know,
- 20:38Speaker 3: above 500, but he never lost the locker room. Can
- 20:40Speaker 3: Jesse Minner, a first year head coach, can he still
- 20:43Speaker 3: keep that locker room together and be competitive the second
- 20:45Speaker 3: half of the season with everything else going on there?
- 20:47Speaker 1: I don't know. We're going to find out.
- 20:48Speaker 5: It's yeah, that's a tough one. I just, the trade
- 20:52Speaker 5: deadline is approaching rapidly and pretty bad timing for their
- 20:56Speaker 5: QB room to go down in a heap because if
- 20:58Speaker 5: it would have happened later or if I mean if
- 21:01Speaker 5: it would have happened earlier you'd have had a little
- 21:03Speaker 5: bit more time to assess your options and I guess
- 21:05Speaker 5: they still do have some time but don't don't envy
- 21:08Speaker 5: Eric DaCosta their GM at the moment and there's a
- 21:11Speaker 5: lot of chatter from the outside I don't I haven't
- 21:14Speaker 5: entirely like traced this speculation back to the origin just
- 21:17Speaker 5: yet but so much noise and hubbub about whether Lamar
- 21:21Speaker 5: has played his last down for the Ravens I guess
- 21:23Speaker 5: because of contract issues and obviously persistent injuries man that
- 21:28Speaker 5: would uh that'd be pretty crazy if that's the case
- 21:32Speaker 5: it's tough when you get a mobile quarterback like a
- 21:33Speaker 5: lamar jackson later on in his career um and that's
- 21:36Speaker 5: where he is right now you know to be able
- 21:38Speaker 5: to stay healthy through the second half of his nfl
- 21:40Speaker 5: career it's tough um patrick mahomes i mean even mahomes
- 21:43Speaker 5: got hurt last year you know he's he's kind of
- 21:45Speaker 5: been the exception to that rule brian But he even
- 21:48Speaker 5: got banged up last year and missed the second half
- 21:49Speaker 5: of the season.
- 21:50Speaker 3: So it does happen. We'll have to see how that
- 21:52Speaker 3: plays out.
- 21:52Speaker 1: But I'm with you.
- 21:53Speaker 3: I think there's seven playoff teams in the AFC, and
- 21:55Speaker 3: they're pretty much set. I think you're going to have
- 21:57Speaker 3: the Bills and Patriots in the east. I think you're
- 21:59Speaker 3: going to have the Steelers and Bengals in the north.
- 22:02Speaker 3: I think you'll have the winner of the south, which
- 22:05Speaker 3: right now, no doubt that it's going to be the Jaguars.
- 22:08Speaker 3: And then out in the West, I think you're going
- 22:10Speaker 3: to have the Broncos or the Chiefs. Whoever wins the division,
- 22:12Speaker 3: who doesn't, will also get in. Maybe the Raiders sneak
- 22:15Speaker 3: in in that conversation. Maybe the Browns aren't completely dead yet.
- 22:18Speaker 3: I don't know, but I would say the two of
- 22:19Speaker 3: them are probably on their way out.
- 22:21Speaker 1: Hold up.
- 22:21Speaker 5: Let me stop you right there. Have you seen the Raiders'
- 22:23Speaker 5: upcoming schedule?
- 22:24Speaker 1: Is it brutal or easy?
- 22:25Speaker 5: At Niners, home to the Seahawks.
- 22:28Speaker 1: Oh, they're done.
- 22:28Speaker 5: At Broncos.
- 22:29Speaker 1: They're done.
- 22:30Speaker 5: At Browns is the next four games.
- 22:32Speaker 1: Yeah, forget it.
- 22:33Speaker 5: Yeah, because the only reason that I knew that they
- 22:36Speaker 5: had such a grind coming up, Ed, was because– I
- 22:39Speaker 5: was listening to somebody, I forget who it was, but
- 22:41Speaker 5: they were just discussing when's the time to get Fernando
- 22:44Speaker 5: Mendoza in there, and they're like, well, if you don't
- 22:46Speaker 5: get him in soon, he's going to be running into
- 22:48Speaker 5: a buzzsaw, and that ain't going to be great for
- 22:50Speaker 5: a rookie's confidence to start his NFL career. It actually
- 22:53Speaker 5: reminded me of when the Steelers ran Kenny Pickett out
- 22:56Speaker 5: there against, I think it was the Bills on the
- 22:58Speaker 5: road in Buffalo was his first start, if I'm not mistaken,
- 23:02Speaker 5: and then he had the Eagles pretty quick after that.
- 23:05Speaker 5: I'm not saying that's why it didn't turn out well,
- 23:07Speaker 5: but That's quite a digression on Election Day and Sandwich Day,
- 23:11Speaker 5: Kenny Pickett's rookie year.
- 23:12Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to call an audible here, Brian.
- 23:14Speaker 3: We're about halfway through this segment before break, so let's
- 23:16Speaker 3: keep the playoff conversation going.
- 23:17Speaker 5: Yeah, at this point, we might as well.
- 23:19Speaker 3: When we come back after break, we'll hear from Patrick Graham,
- 23:21Speaker 3: because Patrick Graham had a lot to say, so I
- 23:22Speaker 3: don't want to shortchange him here before break.
- 23:24Speaker 5: We can do the rest of the show listening to
- 23:26Speaker 5: Patrick Graham's comments. First of all, quantity and quality. I mean,
- 23:29Speaker 5: he talked for, what, 16 minutes or so here?
- 23:31Speaker 1: He did, a lot.
- 23:32Speaker 5: And there's just a lot of... Good stuff. What's the cliche?
- 23:36Speaker 5: There's a lot to unpack from everything that he gets
- 23:38Speaker 5: to here.
- 23:38Speaker 2: A lot.
- 23:38Speaker 5: So, yeah, let's table it.
- 23:39Speaker 3: By the way, Patrick Graham's dress, you know, he cuts
- 23:43Speaker 3: the sleeves off of everything.
- 23:44Speaker 1: My man. I mean, I have that look. I mean,
- 23:46Speaker 1: today I didn't cut off my Steelers.
- 23:48Speaker 5: No, you've got a great look going on today. You've
- 23:50Speaker 5: got a layer combination that I couldn't even fathom and
- 23:55Speaker 5: I would have never come up with on my own.
- 23:57Speaker 5: It's a first layer of a shorter long-sleeve T-shirt and
- 24:00Speaker 5: then a hoodie and then a polo over it. It's remarkable, Ed.
- 24:04Speaker 5: I've got to do that.
- 24:05Speaker 3: When you go from being 300 pounds most of your
- 24:07Speaker 3: life where you're always sweaty and hot to losing 100 pounds,
- 24:10Speaker 3: you're always cold, Brian.
- 24:11Speaker 5: No, I don't even think it has anything to do
- 24:12Speaker 5: with the temperature. I just admire the ingenuity. I wouldn't
- 24:15Speaker 5: have thought of that outside the box thinking. It looks cool, though.
- 24:19Speaker 1: It's always 30 degrees outside.
- 24:20Speaker 3: With an with a chance of snow in the studio
- 24:23Speaker 3: when we do the game all year long so we
- 24:25Speaker 3: got a heater on but you always got to dress
- 24:26Speaker 3: warm you've come in with the tassel.
- 24:28Speaker 5: Hat oh yeah i was wearing a beanie for the
- 24:30Speaker 5: game on sunday too in the press box and then
- 24:33Speaker 5: down in the locker room and Will Graves from the
- 24:36Speaker 5: Associated Press says, isn't it too early for beanie season?
- 24:38Speaker 1: No, never.
- 24:39Speaker 5: Check my watch. I'm like, well, it's November 1st, so no.
- 24:42Speaker 5: But also, I'm always cold, and my head is always cold.
- 24:44Speaker 1: I'm not a hat guy in the summer, but I'm
- 24:45Speaker 1: a beanie guy in the winter. You'll find that out.
- 24:47Speaker 5: I've got my pit hat on today.
- 24:48Speaker 1: I like that. It's a nice one.
- 24:49Speaker 5: Huge win last night over the Ryder.
- 24:51Speaker 1: How about that?
- 24:52Speaker 5: You know Ryder's nickname?
- 24:55Speaker 2: I do not.
- 24:55Speaker 5: The Bronx.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Not the Broncos. Just the Bronx. The Bronx. Like the Bronx,
- 25:00Speaker 1: New York?
- 25:01Speaker 5: B-R-O-N-C-S.
- 25:03Speaker 3: What's a Bronx?
- 25:04Speaker 5: It's Broncos without an O at the end.
- 25:07Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 25:07Speaker 1: Where are they located?
- 25:08Speaker 5: New York? Yeah, they're in New Jersey or New York.
- 25:12Speaker 3: Okay.
- 25:12Speaker 1: Well, all right. Not a bad guess.
- 25:16Speaker 5: I don't know why they don't have the second O
- 25:18Speaker 5: in Broncos, but they're just the Bronx.
- 25:20Speaker 1: They're trying to be a bit different.
- 25:21Speaker 5: Yeah, they're not even in the Bronx, New York. They're
- 25:23Speaker 5: in the Lawrence Township.
- 25:24Speaker 1: New Jersey. Let me reel you back in, my friend.
- 25:27Speaker 1: AFC playoff pitcher.
- 25:29Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm getting into college basketball season. Pitt 95, Ryder
- 25:32Speaker 5: 57 to kick off the season.
- 25:35Speaker 1: So do you think, and I'm with you on Pitt basketball.
- 25:37Speaker 1: I love Pitt hoops. Boy, I've really missed the Big
- 25:39Speaker 1: East days. I'll just leave it there.
- 25:41Speaker 3: But when you look at these playoff teams in the AFC,
- 25:44Speaker 3: Do you see any other team cracking into that seven?
- 25:47Speaker 1: For instance, pretty much we both just said to heck
- 25:49Speaker 1: with the Raiders, right?
- 25:50Speaker 3: Do the Texans, they're 2-5, but they have so much
- 25:53Speaker 3: talent on offense and defense. Remember last year they made
- 25:56Speaker 3: a run halfway through the season towards the end and
- 25:58Speaker 3: got into the playoffs and beat the Steelers in that
- 26:00Speaker 3: wild card game. Is there any life left maybe to
- 26:02Speaker 3: the Texans? I can't see, after what I just saw
- 26:04Speaker 3: this past week against the Browns, I think they're going
- 26:07Speaker 3: the other direction. The Ravens, because of the injuries and
- 26:09Speaker 3: the defense, I think they're going the other direction. We
- 26:11Speaker 3: already talked about the East. I don't know, Brian. I
- 26:13Speaker 3: think the Texans might be the only team that might
- 26:16Speaker 3: work their way back into that conversation.
- 26:18Speaker 2: Maybe.
- 26:19Speaker 5: The Texans can make some hay coming up here. They
- 26:21Speaker 5: just had their bye week. Now they're going to go
- 26:24Speaker 5: to the Chargers, which is not a formidable opponent. Before
- 26:28Speaker 5: the season, I would have told you it is. Now
- 26:29Speaker 5: it certainly is not.
- 26:30Speaker 1: Not now.
- 26:31Speaker 5: Then they go to Cleveland against the Browns. You're down
- 26:34Speaker 5: on them. I'm going to get to them in a second.
- 26:36Speaker 5: But first, what the Texans have coming up. Thursday night
- 26:39Speaker 5: football at home against the Colts. Can we just sharpie
- 26:42Speaker 5: a W for the Texans in that one? I mean, geez.
- 26:44Speaker 5: And then the Ravens at home.
- 26:46Speaker 2: I hope so.
- 26:46Speaker 5: That's not looking like a very difficult opponent.
- 26:50Speaker 2: Nope.
- 26:50Speaker 5: And then December 6th, Sunday night football in Pittsburgh at
- 26:56Speaker 5: Accresure Stadium.
- 26:57Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin's return to Pittsburgh.
- 26:59Speaker 5: If the Texans can rattle off four straight wins against
- 27:02Speaker 5: that quartet of uninspiring foes that I just named there,
- 27:08Speaker 5: they would be six and five coming in here.
- 27:11Speaker 1: Very much alive.
- 27:12Speaker 5: And they would be very much alive.
- 27:13Speaker 1: They're back, baby.
- 27:14Speaker 5: And they would be needing a huge win on primetime
- 27:17Speaker 5: on the road. That would be fascinating. But hold your
- 27:22Speaker 5: horses not so fast on the Browns, in my opinion.
- 27:25Speaker 5: I know the Steelers just took it to them, wiped
- 27:28Speaker 5: the floor with them. But they've got to go to
- 27:30Speaker 5: New Orleans this upcoming week. Winnable game for Cleveland.
- 27:35Speaker 2: Yes.
- 27:35Speaker 5: Good way to put it. Winnable game. Then the flip
- 27:37Speaker 5: side of what I just said there, they've got the
- 27:39Speaker 5: Texans at home. That could be one of those. Yeah,
- 27:42Speaker 5: it's in Cleveland. So that could be one of those, like,
- 27:45Speaker 5: whoever loses that game is probably done for. But then
- 27:49Speaker 5: they get a bye, and then they come out of
- 27:51Speaker 5: their bye with three consecutive home games against the Raiders, Bengals,
- 27:54Speaker 5: and Falcons.
- 27:55Speaker 2: Oh, boy.
- 27:56Speaker 5: So their Bengals games are going to be huge for them.
- 27:58Speaker 5: They haven't played since yet. They've already beaten the Ravens once.
- 28:01Speaker 2: So.
- 28:05Speaker 1: They're still very much alive.
- 28:07Speaker 5: Yeah, and then they go to the Giants, to the Ravens,
- 28:10Speaker 5: and they get the Colts still.
- 28:12Speaker 1: Giants, Ravens, Colts.
- 28:13Speaker 2: Okay.
- 28:14Speaker 1: Well, their schedule's very favorable.
- 28:16Speaker 5: Yeah, the Browns aren't out of it by any stretch
- 28:18Speaker 5: in my mind.
- 28:19Speaker 3: So there still could be three playoff teams potentially coming
- 28:22Speaker 3: out of the AFC North.
- 28:23Speaker 5: I think so.
- 28:24Speaker 2: I think so.
- 28:25Speaker 5: And I just talked myself into the Texans battling back, evidently.
- 28:29Speaker 1: You talked me into the Browns, and I talked you
- 28:31Speaker 1: into the Texans.
- 28:31Speaker 5: No, I think the Texans, they've been... Way less competitive
- 28:36Speaker 5: than anticipated coming into this year. But they did find
- 28:38Speaker 5: a way to beat Jacksonville in London. They got better
- 28:42Speaker 5: over the course of the season a year ago, so
- 28:44Speaker 5: there's some credence to that. There's precedent for that under
- 28:49Speaker 5: D'Amico Ryans and even C.J. Stroud as well. But 2-5,
- 28:54Speaker 5: that's a tough hole to climb out of.
- 28:56Speaker 1: Very tough hole to climb out of. It has not
- 28:58Speaker 1: been done very much throughout.
- 28:59Speaker 5: The course of the history. I think the Chargers are
- 29:00Speaker 5: about to run the table.
- 29:02Speaker 2: 10-7.
- 29:02Speaker 1: Chargers!
- 29:02Speaker 2: Still.
- 29:03Speaker 5: Still a possibility.
- 29:05Speaker 1: Playoffs?
- 29:05Speaker 5: Still a possibility for Jim Harbaugh and Mike McDaniel and company, 10-7.
- 29:08Speaker 5: I don't know, man. Just got to win 10 straight.
- 29:11Speaker 1: Win them all. You want to talk about a tall order. Well,
- 29:14Speaker 1: you know what? Hey, it'd be historic. That's for sure.
- 29:18Speaker 3: When Brian and I come back, we will indeed finally
- 29:20Speaker 3: hear from Pittsburgh Steelers defensive coordinator Patrick Graham.
- 29:24Speaker 1: What did he have to say yesterday?
- 29:25Speaker 3: We always love hearing from Coach Graham.
- 29:27Speaker 1: We'll have that.
- 29:28Speaker 3: And also coming up in the second hour today at
- 29:30Speaker 3: 3 o'clock and in and around 320, our top 10
- 29:34Speaker 3: moments and plays from this past Sunday between the Pittsburgh
- 29:37Speaker 3: Steelers and the Browns. Brian, there were 20 to pick from.
- 29:39Speaker 3: I had an it down to 10. We got there,
- 29:41Speaker 3: but we could have probably done... We probably could have
- 29:43Speaker 3: doubled up on it. Some weeks, we've had to stretch
- 29:45Speaker 3: to get to 10. This week, we probably could have
- 29:47Speaker 3: gave you 20.
- 29:47Speaker 1: Gosh, there were eight sacks alone. And then Chris.
- 29:50Speaker 3: Adamski wraps up the show from the Tribune Review later
- 29:53Speaker 3: on today.
- 29:54Speaker 1: He's back. I'm Troop.
- 29:55Speaker 3: It is the Steelers Report right here on Steelers Nation Radio,
- 29:58Speaker 3: part of the Steelers Audio Network.
- 30:06Speaker 4: This is the Steelers Report with Brian Batko and Ed
- 30:10Speaker 4: Truth on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers
- 30:14Speaker 4: Audio Network.
- 30:15Speaker 3: Wrapping up our first hour here on the Report. We
- 30:18Speaker 3: will hear from defensive coordinator Patrick Graham in just a
- 30:22Speaker 3: few minutes. We'll also have our top ten moments and
- 30:25Speaker 3: plays in the 3 o'clock hour from Steelers Browns and
- 30:29Speaker 3: then Chris Adamski from Trib Live joins us to wrap
- 30:32Speaker 3: up the show here today. Brian, hard to believe the
- 30:36Speaker 3: first half of the season, just about, you know, we
- 30:38Speaker 3: turned the corner to week nine, going to be behind us,
- 30:41Speaker 3: but that's where we currently are. Steelers bye week at
- 30:44Speaker 3: a good time. What's your thoughts on the bye week?
- 30:46Speaker 1: Good timing halfway through.
- 30:48Speaker 3: I think this is about the perfect time to have
- 30:50Speaker 3: a bye week.
- 30:51Speaker 5: Yeah, I never really get too into the weeds on that.
- 30:53Speaker 5: I mean, I think it is just, if you ask
- 30:57Speaker 5: me before the season, yeah, midway through the year is
- 31:00Speaker 5: the best way to go because you just split your
- 31:02Speaker 5: season in two, but I think after that, a late
- 31:06Speaker 5: season bye sometimes can help as long as you're peaking
- 31:09Speaker 5: at the right time and you didn't get worn down
- 31:12Speaker 5: playing so many games in a row. I think the
- 31:14Speaker 5: early bye is never good, but some teams have to
- 31:17Speaker 5: take them. It is what it is.
- 31:19Speaker 1: Yeah, that bye week in, like, what, week four, week five?
- 31:22Speaker 3: That's probably the worst because then you've got a lot
- 31:24Speaker 3: of season up on the other side.
- 31:26Speaker 1: I will say this.
- 31:28Speaker 3: Steelers have a lot of momentum right now, so you
- 31:30Speaker 3: can look at it from two different angles, one being
- 31:33Speaker 3: you'd rather have that momentum going into the break than
- 31:35Speaker 3: on the flip side and have to think about a
- 31:37Speaker 3: loss to the Browns and being swept for two weeks.
- 31:40Speaker 3: But on the other hand, you've got the momentum. Things
- 31:42Speaker 3: are cooking in the right direction. Why stop now? Keep
- 31:46Speaker 3: the train moving.
- 31:47Speaker 5: If anything, I would have said– Give me the bye
- 31:49Speaker 5: right after the Paris game. But now that we've pushed
- 31:52Speaker 5: through an extra week, although I have been a little fatigued,
- 31:55Speaker 5: I'm going to have to ask Adamski later on the
- 31:57Speaker 5: show about that if he's feeling the same way. But
- 31:59Speaker 5: now that we've pushed through it, this is a nice
- 32:01Speaker 5: time to level set, take a bit of a breather,
- 32:05Speaker 5: get ready for the second half. It's actually second half
- 32:07Speaker 5: plus a game. And we hope more games in the postseason.
- 32:11Speaker 3: Well, I didn't go to Paris, but I will tell
- 32:13Speaker 3: you this. My wife and I had this conversation last night.
- 32:16Speaker 1: Daylight savings. Yeah, it's messy.
- 32:18Speaker 3: You know, and it's funny because when you spring ahead
- 32:20Speaker 3: in the spring, that always affects me.
- 32:22Speaker 5: It's brutal, man.
- 32:23Speaker 1: Because you lose an hour.
- 32:24Speaker 3: But in the fall, this is the first time I
- 32:26Speaker 3: could ever remember where it's affected me. Normally, I'm fine.
- 32:29Speaker 3: It's like a bonus. But last night, it's 530.
- 32:31Speaker 1: It's dark out.
- 32:32Speaker 3: And I was done for the night.
- 32:33Speaker 2: Like, I was it.
- 32:34Speaker 1: I was sitting on the couch, and I'm like.
- 32:36Speaker 5: I'm ready to go to bed. I can't stand it.
- 32:38Speaker 5: I wish we didn't do it. I don't think that
- 32:40Speaker 5: was on my ballot to vote for today.
- 32:42Speaker 1: It almost was, I think. I think that was almost
- 32:46Speaker 1: going to be something to vote on there.
- 32:48Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I was driving home. I had dinner
- 32:49Speaker 5: with my parents last night with the kids, and we're
- 32:51Speaker 5: driving home, and it's like 545 pitch black. I'm like, buddy,
- 32:56Speaker 5: if you were still playing fall ball, your game wouldn't
- 32:58Speaker 5: have even started yet because those games were usually at 6.
- 33:00Speaker 5: So he was confused. I was perturbed. Yeah, I don't
- 33:06Speaker 5: like it. But anyway, Patrick Graham.
- 33:08Speaker 1: Yeah, Patrick Graham.
- 33:09Speaker 5: I wonder what he thinks of daylight savings.
- 33:10Speaker 1: Did you guys ask him that yesterday? Oh, come on. Well,
- 33:13Speaker 1: next week. Next week I'll ask Coach. But by then
- 33:14Speaker 1: it'll be too late. It won't matter.
- 33:16Speaker 3: Patrick Graham, Pittsburgh Steelers defensive coordinator, spoke yesterday, and here
- 33:20Speaker 3: is what Coach Graham had to say.
- 33:21Speaker 2: It's definitely a big part of any unit on the
- 33:25Speaker 2: football field, I think, offense, defense, special teams. And the
- 33:29Speaker 2: thing that's been great, just we harp on communication, we
- 33:33Speaker 2: harp on spending time together, getting to know each other,
- 33:35Speaker 2: And as we go through that process, I think the
- 33:38Speaker 2: trust just starts to build. Trust starts to build. But
- 33:41Speaker 2: it also comes from having success. They're not going to
- 33:45Speaker 2: trust me if I can't give them nuggets. They're not
- 33:47Speaker 2: going to trust me if I'm not putting them in
- 33:49Speaker 2: the right spots. The coaches won't trust me if I'm
- 33:51Speaker 2: not giving them the tools or the time to go
- 33:53Speaker 2: over the stuff. So it's all like trying to learn
- 33:56Speaker 2: how to work together, and then the trust gets built
- 33:58Speaker 2: from there. But when you get results from the process,
- 34:01Speaker 2: it definitely helps there. But– I told him right from
- 34:06Speaker 2: the jump, I said, I want you to trust me.
- 34:08Speaker 2: I understand I'm going to have to earn that trust.
- 34:10Speaker 2: I'm asking you to blindly trust me, and I know
- 34:12Speaker 2: that's not going to be the case, so you have
- 34:14Speaker 2: to earn it. And right now it's trending in the
- 34:16Speaker 2: right direction. And most importantly, and this is why I
- 34:20Speaker 2: think it's so important as a coach to keep growing,
- 34:23Speaker 2: and I had to learn how to trust them more.
- 34:26Speaker 2: And it was from the input, from the voices, like
- 34:30Speaker 2: the veteran players, like Pat, you can trust us on this.
- 34:34Speaker 2: And sometimes you don't want to hear that, you know,
- 34:37Speaker 2: sometimes you don't want to hear like where are you
- 34:38Speaker 2: falling short and stuff. But I think any sign of
- 34:40Speaker 2: a good coach or just a good teacher, when you
- 34:42Speaker 2: get feedback from your students and that's, that's basically what
- 34:45Speaker 2: we're talking about. And I got really good feedback from them.
- 34:50Speaker 2: And that bus ride back from Cleveland was a tough one.
- 34:52Speaker 2: And I sat there and thought about it all day.
- 34:53Speaker 2: And I said, you know what? I got to reflect
- 34:56Speaker 2: on myself and make sure I'm doing that. And, and
- 34:59Speaker 2: the open discussions we've had, um, It's been good. It's
- 35:03Speaker 2: been good. It's been good.
- 35:04Speaker 3: Can you put your finger on kind of when the
- 35:08Speaker 3: turning point came, whether it was from that trust and
- 35:11Speaker 3: just really when things started to start clicking?
- 35:13Speaker 2: God, dude, now the headline is going to be trust
- 35:15Speaker 2: for everything. Okay. It's about production. I know. It's about production.
- 35:20Speaker 2: The guys, it's what they do on the field. I
- 35:21Speaker 2: have very little to do with what the success they're
- 35:24Speaker 2: having out there. But speaking from a personal standpoint– A
- 35:30Speaker 2: big turning point for me was the bus ride back
- 35:32Speaker 2: from Cleveland. I'll be honest. I mean, I just sat
- 35:34Speaker 2: there staring out the window listening to Amy Winehouse. Like
- 35:38Speaker 2: I do when we have a bad loss. I'm like
- 35:40Speaker 2: sitting there listening to Amy Winehouse. And, you know, she's
- 35:43Speaker 2: depressed on the song. I'm depressed that day. And just
- 35:46Speaker 2: thinking about what I could do better. And that was
- 35:50Speaker 2: a turning point for me. And I'm glad it happened.
- 35:53Speaker 2: What was going through your mind? Back to black.
- 35:58Speaker 3: Internally, what was going through your mind of what you
- 36:00Speaker 3: did need to.
- 36:00Speaker 2: Reflect on and change? It was really.
- 36:04Speaker 5: Patrick Graham's a ball-knower, and I'm not using that in
- 36:07Speaker 5: the athletic or football sense. That's in the slang term
- 36:10Speaker 5: sense because Amy Winehouse, first of all, we heard way
- 36:14Speaker 5: back in OTAs that he has players present on old-school hip-hop,
- 36:19Speaker 5: so like 80s and 90s rap that he wanted to
- 36:21Speaker 5: hear from some players about.
- 36:22Speaker 1: That's a deep cut there.
- 36:23Speaker 5: So we know he's got that preference and taste.
- 36:26Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 36:26Speaker 5: Now the Amy Winehouse is coming out. Patrick Graham's at
- 36:30Speaker 5: the top of my list of coaches I'd want to
- 36:32Speaker 5: have a drink with, I think, and listen to some tunes.
- 36:36Speaker 5: Ball knower, for sure. Although, now that I think about it,
- 36:40Speaker 5: I think that album, which I believe is critically acclaimed,
- 36:43Speaker 5: the late Amy Winehouse, of course, starts with the song Rehab,
- 36:46Speaker 5: which was probably her most famous song.
- 36:48Speaker 1: That's the one I know.
- 36:48Speaker 5: But that's a very upbeat, chipper song, really. The content
- 36:52Speaker 5: of it is obviously dark, but the... The melody and
- 36:56Speaker 5: everything is pretty chipper. But obviously he was getting more
- 37:01Speaker 5: into the middle part of the album with some more,
- 37:06Speaker 5: what's the word I'm looking for? Some more morose tracks.
- 37:09Speaker 5: But hey, whatever it took for them to right the
- 37:12Speaker 5: ship after the game in Cleveland, shout out to Amy
- 37:15Speaker 5: Winehouse for pitching into this Steelers season posthumously.
- 37:19Speaker 3: I just picture an NFL Films shot of, Coach Graham
- 37:23Speaker 3: with his headphones on looking out the window.
- 37:25Speaker 1: It's raining and he's listening.
- 37:27Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I even like I had a few
- 37:28Speaker 5: things to do around the house yesterday. And after listening
- 37:31Speaker 5: to Patrick Graham, I was like, I'm putting on some
- 37:32Speaker 5: Back in Black by Amy Winehouse.
- 37:34Speaker 3: There you go.
- 37:34Speaker 5: Was it good?
- 37:35Speaker 1: You liked it?
- 37:36Speaker 2: Yes.
- 37:36Speaker 5: I forgot how many of the songs that I'd known.
- 37:38Speaker 3: I'm a very diverse music person. I listen to a
- 37:40Speaker 3: lot of different types of music, old school and new school.
- 37:43Speaker 3: And that's but that's one I can't speak to other
- 37:45Speaker 3: than the rehab song. I don't know much of her music,
- 37:47Speaker 3: but a lot of fans out there, including Coach Graham.
- 37:51Speaker 2: Listen, again, I said this from jump, you know, the
- 37:54Speaker 2: best thing I learned from Bill, I mean, I learned
- 37:56Speaker 2: a lot from, sorry, Coach Belichick, I can't believe I
- 37:58Speaker 2: said that, the best I learned from Coach Belichick, just
- 38:02Speaker 2: being the quality control coach, being a position coach, he
- 38:04Speaker 2: was the best listener I've ever been around, by far,
- 38:07Speaker 2: I mean, best football coach ever, but like, best listener
- 38:09Speaker 2: by far, and there's a reason why something's getting said,
- 38:14Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, get out of your feelings, why
- 38:17Speaker 2: is it being said, and like, how can I do better,
- 38:19Speaker 2: and it was just, Going through that, because I have
- 38:21Speaker 2: emotions too. I'm sitting there like, you know, no, I
- 38:25Speaker 2: don't think that's right. But I'm like, okay, why did
- 38:26Speaker 2: somebody say that? Think about it. And I'm trying to
- 38:29Speaker 2: be the example. I talk to them all the time, like,
- 38:31Speaker 2: you know, whether it's in the game, trying to have poise,
- 38:34Speaker 2: whether it's, you know, learning from mistakes, trying to show poise. Like,
- 38:37Speaker 2: I'm like, I'll be the example. I think that's a
- 38:39Speaker 2: big part of being a good leader. So trying to
- 38:42Speaker 2: do that.
- 38:42Speaker 6: After the game, PQ was talking about how, during the
- 38:47Speaker 6: week you got up and kind of gave an impassioned
- 38:49Speaker 6: speech and told the guys, like, hey, trust me, I
- 38:52Speaker 6: know what I'm doing here, I got a plan in place.
- 38:54Speaker 5: What were you trying to, no, I won't put the
- 38:56Speaker 5: words in your mouth, I guess just, what were you
- 38:58Speaker 5: trying to basically pass along or.
- 39:01Speaker 2: Illustrate to those guys? That's kind of, you know, I
- 39:03Speaker 2: don't know, they're paraphrasing that or whatever the word, I mean,
- 39:06Speaker 2: I didn't say trust me, I wanted them to, God,
- 39:09Speaker 2: this is going to be trust, the headlines will be
- 39:11Speaker 2: trust for everything, Jesus. All right. I just was trying
- 39:15Speaker 2: to tell them, I said, Because when I first met him,
- 39:19Speaker 2: I said, there's a lesson planned for the season. Again,
- 39:22Speaker 2: talk about being a teacher. So there's a lesson planned
- 39:24Speaker 2: for the season. So everything, you know, Coach talks about
- 39:26Speaker 2: the season being in quarters. Like, we're building towards something.
- 39:30Speaker 2: and making sure I'm explaining that process like not getting
- 39:33Speaker 2: caught up in the results making sure explaining that process
- 39:36Speaker 2: and then as we get to week eight I said
- 39:38Speaker 2: now listen this is part of the process right here
- 39:41Speaker 2: this is where we're at and I get into okay
- 39:43Speaker 2: we got seven games on them already of tape to
- 39:45Speaker 2: watch You guys have stopped the run three weeks in
- 39:48Speaker 2: a row. It's time to start putting that in our
- 39:50Speaker 2: back pocket. That's what we know how to do. Now
- 39:52Speaker 2: we have to tighten down the coverage and just keep
- 39:55Speaker 2: building so that when we get to after Thanksgiving, some
- 39:58Speaker 2: of those stuff on the checklist that we're rocking and rolling,
- 40:00Speaker 2: and now you start to see this. Again, six games
- 40:03Speaker 2: is not going to win us anything. We all understand that.
- 40:05Speaker 2: But you want to be ascending, and then once it
- 40:07Speaker 2: gets to Thanksgiving, when real football starts, what do you
- 40:10Speaker 2: have that's in your back pocket? We could defend the run.
- 40:14Speaker 2: We're not there yet. We're doing a pretty good job,
- 40:16Speaker 2: but like yesterday was a big test because the junk is,
- 40:19Speaker 2: I mean, this guy can run the ball. I mean, coach,
- 40:22Speaker 2: they know how to run the ball. They have a
- 40:23Speaker 2: good old line. They got good blockers. I said, okay,
- 40:26Speaker 2: can we do it now when we need it, you know?
- 40:28Speaker 2: And okay, can we tighten the coverage down? Like, okay,
- 40:30Speaker 2: now we've got to start building off of that. So,
- 40:32Speaker 2: and then, you know, when we come back in two weeks,
- 40:33Speaker 2: we got Cincinnati, I mean, best quarterback in the league
- 40:36Speaker 2: and they got all those types of receivers and we
- 40:38Speaker 2: got to be able to defend the pass game there.
- 40:40Speaker 2: And like, can we put it in our back pocket? Cause,
- 40:42Speaker 2: Once it gets after Thanksgiving, the weather starts to change.
- 40:45Speaker 2: Hopefully where we're at with our record and if we're
- 40:47Speaker 2: fortunate enough to be in January in the dance, they
- 40:50Speaker 2: got to come here and play. If you could defend
- 40:51Speaker 2: the run and you could defend the inside part of
- 40:53Speaker 2: the field in the passing game, throw the ball outside
- 40:56Speaker 2: if you want to. I'm sure the wind's going to
- 40:58Speaker 2: be up to 25, 30. Do it if you want to.
- 41:00Speaker 2: I'll take those chances. So it's just explaining that whole
- 41:04Speaker 2: process and then making sure they know all the hours
- 41:08Speaker 2: that we put in in the office, there's a reason.
- 41:11Speaker 2: There's a reason. and trying to find those nuggets for
- 41:14Speaker 2: those guys. And, but they know that, but I just,
- 41:17Speaker 2: I took a little bit of time just to explain it.
- 41:20Speaker 3: It's a long NFL season, Brian, that's for sure. It's
- 41:23Speaker 3: the old adage that it's a marathon, not a race.
- 41:26Speaker 3: And you got to look at the big picture of things.
- 41:27Speaker 3: And that's why I think early on in the NFL seasons,
- 41:30Speaker 3: you can't, you know, get in your feelings, if you will,
- 41:33Speaker 3: about things.
- 41:33Speaker 1: When they're not going exactly right.
- 41:34Speaker 3: You kind of stick to the game plan, you stick
- 41:36Speaker 3: to what's working, you make your adjustments. And it seems
- 41:39Speaker 3: like That is exactly what Coach Graham has done so
- 41:41Speaker 3: far this season with this defense.
- 41:43Speaker 5: Marathon, not a sprint. Because a marathon is still a race.
- 41:47Speaker 2: Correct.
- 41:48Speaker 1: The journalist in you. Thank you for the typo and edit,
- 41:51Speaker 1: my friend.
- 41:51Speaker 5: Great humility, though, shown by Patrick Graham here. I mean,
- 41:54Speaker 5: all that stuff. And it seemed like it was wearing
- 41:57Speaker 5: on him a little bit that the trust discussion kept
- 42:03Speaker 5: coming up. You know how the Steelers media is. Hand up,
- 42:06Speaker 5: myself included. I'm a part of it. Like, We're like
- 42:09Speaker 5: a dog with a bone sometimes. We're just digging, getting
- 42:12Speaker 5: the shovel out, and we're just going to dig until
- 42:15Speaker 5: that hole is down to the ground and all the
- 42:18Speaker 5: way to China. But, yeah, I mean, I think it
- 42:21Speaker 5: is an interesting glimpse inside of what was going on
- 42:24Speaker 5: with the defense at the time. I mean, Jalen Ramsey
- 42:27Speaker 5: had some comments both in person and on social media
- 42:30Speaker 5: that muddied the waters a little bit, and now we
- 42:32Speaker 5: get to hear some continued perspective from Patrick Graham albeit
- 42:37Speaker 5: four weeks later after a really nice run of performances
- 42:40Speaker 5: by the defense. But I applaud him for whatever he
- 42:45Speaker 5: did to kind of come together with the veterans on
- 42:48Speaker 5: this unit and also for peeling back the curtain a
- 42:51Speaker 5: little bit for people at home. I mean, you can't
- 42:52Speaker 5: always do that. That's not always conducive to your message
- 42:58Speaker 5: or what's best for your team, but I think it
- 43:00Speaker 5: is appreciated sometimes by people when they want to know
- 43:02Speaker 5: the why to how things have been turned around.
- 43:04Speaker 1: Sprint, not a race.
- 43:06Speaker 2: Yes.
- 43:06Speaker 1: I got you. Now we got it.
- 43:08Speaker 3: You talked about how there was an emphasis.
- 43:10Speaker 2: That you guys didn't need to change what you did
- 43:13Speaker 2: from the first time.
- 43:14Speaker 5: It was about tightening things up and not beating yourselves.
- 43:17Speaker 2: What did you see from.
- 43:18Speaker 5: Your guys that allowed them to kind of channel that system?
- 43:22Speaker 2: The first third down stop, my favorite play of the game.
- 43:26Speaker 2: You just watch that and juxtapose that with what happened. Sorry,
- 43:30Speaker 2: it's two parts. The first third down stop, There's like
- 43:34Speaker 2: six guys, six or seven guys by the ball. I mean,
- 43:36Speaker 2: you watch the first game. I didn't want anybody to
- 43:38Speaker 2: be late to the party. I mean, I say the
- 43:41Speaker 2: first game, we had people outside the club waiting in line.
- 43:44Speaker 2: We didn't want to be late to the party. And
- 43:46Speaker 2: then the thing that, again, I was talking about on
- 43:49Speaker 2: the sideline, big plays are going to happen in the game.
- 43:52Speaker 2: Coach talks about there's like 36 big plays that happen
- 43:56Speaker 2: on the average in the NFL football game. Big plays happen.
- 43:59Speaker 2: They got down to the red area. We didn't panic.
- 44:02Speaker 2: We held them to a field goal. We stopped them.
- 44:04Speaker 2: I said, to me, and B-Flo used to say this
- 44:06Speaker 2: all the time, like when you're trying to judge or
- 44:09Speaker 2: you're trying to gauge the mental toughness of your defense,
- 44:12Speaker 2: something messed up happened if you're in the red area.
- 44:15Speaker 2: Can you get a stop? That's what I'm gauging, the
- 44:17Speaker 2: mental toughness. So, like, to me, all those red area stops,
- 44:20Speaker 2: I'm like, guys, that's what I'm talking about. It was
- 44:22Speaker 2: no different than being down 21-3 in the first game.
- 44:25Speaker 2: We came in at halftime the first time. I said,
- 44:27Speaker 2: if they score 21 points, is that all they score?
- 44:29Speaker 2: We're going to win the game. and we let them score,
- 44:32Speaker 2: I think it was 27. I mean, but if we
- 44:34Speaker 2: would have held them to 21, we would have won
- 44:35Speaker 2: the game. You know, so there's a lot of good
- 44:38Speaker 2: stuff going on, but we got this bye week is
- 44:40Speaker 2: coming at the right time. We got a good opponent
- 44:42Speaker 2: coming up next, and that's where my focus will be.
- 44:46Speaker 3: Coach Patrick Graham speaking with the media yesterday about the
- 44:49Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers' eight games so far into the season, going
- 44:52Speaker 3: into the bye week at 6-2. That'll do it for
- 44:56Speaker 3: our number one. Up next, we'll kick off the 3
- 44:57Speaker 3: o'clock hour with our top ten moments and plays from
- 45:00Speaker 3: this past Sunday between the Steelers and the Browns. But first,
- 45:04Speaker 3: this is the Steelers' report on SNR, part of the Steelers'
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