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Inside The Tape With Greg Cosell: What Made Eagles Pass Offense Wake Up In Second Half vs. Rams? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to Inside the Tape on Inside the Birds,
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  Speaker 1: and of course Inside the Tape features Greg co Sell
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  Speaker 1: to break down the tape of the Eagles last game.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jeff Mosher alongside Adam Kaplan and Greg. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you know this because you watch the tape,
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  Speaker 1: you don't always watch it live, but there was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of booze at Lincoln Financial Field going on in
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  Speaker 1: the second and third quarter as the defending Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: champs kind of looked like chumps on offense. We figured,
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  Speaker 1: let's break down the offense here in part one. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get to the defense on the next episode. And it
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  Speaker 1: was certainly a tale of two different offenses. So before
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  Speaker 1: we really.
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  Speaker 2: Pull it all apart, look at some Walt twenty two clips.
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  Speaker 2: I'm interested in getting your overall takeaways. As you're seeing
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  Speaker 2: a team just almost dormant on offense, then all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, flick the switch, turn it on.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. I was, you know, I watched
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  Speaker 3: Red Zone on Sunday, but obviously they you know, they
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  Speaker 3: show the plays, so I saw, you know, the big
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  Speaker 3: plays and the key moments in the game. But as
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  Speaker 3: I was really watching the tape, and studying it as
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  Speaker 3: you guys, you know, could see. When I sent you
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  Speaker 3: my notes, all I could think of was when I
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  Speaker 3: spoke at length with Steve Spagnolo this summer and he
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  Speaker 3: said to me that the most important player in the
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  Speaker 3: Eagles offense is aj Brown, which would probably surprise a
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  Speaker 3: lot of fans because they would think it's you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's Arkley or Hurts. You know, yeah, but because you
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  Speaker 3: can you can really stop a run game if you
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  Speaker 3: commit enough to it. Now, can a guy break one?
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  Speaker 3: Sure that can happen anytime. But if you know, we
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  Speaker 3: saw what what Spags did in the Super Bowl. You
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  Speaker 3: know he made it a concerted effort to stop the
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  Speaker 3: run game, and he did. But in so doing, the
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  Speaker 3: thing is is, if you're going to defend a receiver
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  Speaker 3: outside the numbers, you're pretty much playing one on one.
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  Speaker 3: Whether it's a zone call or a man call, that
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  Speaker 3: corner has to match up one on one. And there
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  Speaker 3: may be you know, Brown is in the top three
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  Speaker 3: receiver group in the league. You know, it's Jefferson, Chase
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  Speaker 3: and Brown. You know, one can debate, you know who
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  Speaker 3: they like better. But the point is is that Brown
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  Speaker 3: is really, really hard to defend one on one on
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  Speaker 3: the outside. And as I'm watching this tape and they
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  Speaker 3: started throwing to him on the outside. You know, to me,
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  Speaker 3: the biggest play in the game was that third and
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  Speaker 3: ten when they were deep in their own territory and
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  Speaker 3: he hit Brown who turned it into I think a
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  Speaker 3: twenty five yard gain if memory serves me correctly.
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  Speaker 4: Is it the player right before the Goddard touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: Greg, No, no, no, no, no, no, This was they
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  Speaker 3: were deep in their own territory.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking about now, yeah, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Goutter touchdown happened before that, but you
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  Speaker 3: know it was it was it was third and ten
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  Speaker 3: from their own nine yard line. That was the play, right,
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  Speaker 3: and he turned it into twenty five yards. It happened
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  Speaker 3: to be cover one on that play. But the point is,
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  Speaker 3: even if it was his own concept, he's outside the numbers.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, it just made me think of what
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  Speaker 3: Spags told me. And they started throwing the ball in
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  Speaker 3: all these critical, high leverage situations, where did the ball go.
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  Speaker 3: It went to Brown outside the numbers, you know, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: And that's and by the way, that's where Jalen's had
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  Speaker 3: his absolute best throwing the football. So that's what I
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  Speaker 3: thought of as kind of an overview. We can certainly
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  Speaker 3: talk about the Goddard play. You know, I don't know what.
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  Speaker 4: I think.
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  Speaker 2: What we people really want to understand from both a
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  Speaker 2: big picture look.
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  Speaker 4: And then tape what you go through is where were
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  Speaker 4: the plays in? You know, so I'll help you.
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  Speaker 2: Hal there were seventeen snaps between their seventeen offensive plays,
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  Speaker 2: between the touchdown that they scored early after the interception
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  Speaker 2: and then that played to aj Brown that I was
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  Speaker 2: talking about that preceded the Goddard touchdown where things really
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  Speaker 2: started to change. And in those seventeen plays they netted
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  Speaker 2: nine yards. Right, they had four or five straight.
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  Speaker 4: Three and outs.
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  Speaker 2: And I so we come to you to say, Greg,
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  Speaker 2: what were what were they doing or what were the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles not doing?
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  Speaker 3: And Number one, they have not been able to run
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  Speaker 3: the football the way they have in the past, so
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  Speaker 3: that has not been a sustaining element to their offense.
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  Speaker 3: And I, quite frankly, I don't think their O line
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  Speaker 3: played particularly well. I think Jurgens has been struggling this
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  Speaker 3: year quite frankly. Now, I don't you know, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if Jeff Stalin was here if he would tell
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  Speaker 3: me I'm wrong, but I just my sense, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: certainly not an offensive line guru, but I don't think
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  Speaker 3: he's played particularly well relative to what he did a
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  Speaker 3: year ago, so I think he struggled. Obviously, Lane Johnson
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  Speaker 3: played ten snaps and got hurt, and then Matt Pryor
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  Speaker 3: came in for fifteen snaps and obviously came out after
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  Speaker 3: he allowed the sack forced Fumbo by Verse, and then
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  Speaker 3: they brought in Fred Johnson, who by the way, played
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  Speaker 3: phenomenally well, phenomenally well wow, and they had some issues
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  Speaker 3: with pressure. I mean, you know, he had the mccullus
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  Speaker 3: sack on third and eight and the second possession, and
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  Speaker 3: he blitzed from distance. He got in clean inside of
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  Speaker 3: Stein and Pryor. Hurtz did not recognize the pressure and
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  Speaker 3: got drilled. And they had a really well designed route
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  Speaker 3: concept with a double dig behind Mesh and Smith on
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  Speaker 3: the outside dig came wide open, but Hurts had no
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  Speaker 3: time to make the throw. So I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you can always go through individual plays, which is what
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  Speaker 3: it ultimately comes down to. Individual plays, and when you
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  Speaker 3: get beat on individual plays, particularly on third down, like
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  Speaker 3: the mccullus sack or the sack of that prior let up,
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  Speaker 3: which obviously then resulted in the I think that was
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  Speaker 3: the first drive of the third quarter. I think that
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  Speaker 3: then resulted in the next play on the Williams touchdown reception,
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  Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, they're down twenty six to seven.
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  Speaker 3: But I think if you're talking big picture, I'd say
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  Speaker 3: it's the run game, because keep one thing in mind,
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  Speaker 3: Hertz ended up in this game throwing for over two
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  Speaker 3: hundred yards in the second half alone, which is amazing
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  Speaker 3: and very rare because the Eagles, I believe, have won
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  Speaker 3: something like nineteen of twenty games. Now, is it something
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  Speaker 3: like that, Yes, some crazy status if I'm not mistaken,
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  Speaker 3: and somebody can easily check this. I didn't do the math,
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  Speaker 3: but I think I saw somebody say this that in
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  Speaker 3: those nineteen wins, he's averaged like one hundred eighty yards passing.
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  Speaker 3: They're not a passing team, you know. So this game
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  Speaker 3: demanded it and they obviously did it, and that's you know,
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  Speaker 3: that's great. Now. You know, we'd probably be having a
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  Speaker 3: different conversation about the game if Jordan Davis doesn't, you know,
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  Speaker 3: block that field goal and they lose the game, we'd
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  Speaker 3: be having a different conversation. But at their core, they're
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  Speaker 3: not a passing team. Sure, you know, Hurts fits this
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  Speaker 3: what they if they're running the ball, Well, Hurts fits
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  Speaker 3: this team beautifully. He plays incredibly intelligent football and he
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  Speaker 3: fits the team beautifully. And in this particular game he
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  Speaker 3: had to throw, and you know, the brown factor became huge,
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  Speaker 3: and we'll go over the goddard player. You know. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if you want to go over that now
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  Speaker 3: or you plan on showing it. But if you plan
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  Speaker 3: on showing it, I'll wait till you show it, you know.
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  Speaker 3: But you know this game demanded that they throw the ball.
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  Speaker 3: And in the second half, I believe he was seventeen
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  Speaker 3: for twenty four for two oh nine. So you have
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  Speaker 3: to give Hurts and the past game a ton of credit.
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  Speaker 3: And as I said, Fred Johnson was absolutely critical in
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  Speaker 3: this game because he blocked one on one in pass
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  Speaker 3: protection a good part of the time and he essentially
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  Speaker 3: did what Lane Johnson does.
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  Speaker 5: Wow, he was that good. Let me see question landon Dickerson.
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  Speaker 5: I know our Patreon members will get I'm sure, though,
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  Speaker 5: I ask you give us over the three games. How
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  Speaker 5: Dickerson has looked to you.
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  Speaker 3: You know I would, I would say offensive line play
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  Speaker 3: at him is more about, you know, individual plays that
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  Speaker 3: I noticed. I'm not going to sit here and pretend
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  Speaker 3: that I'm charting each play, you know, I'd be silly
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  Speaker 3: to do. I don't have that kind of time, and
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  Speaker 3: so I'm not going to sit here and say that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he's been good, bad, and different other than
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  Speaker 3: I notice on certain plays that which I didn't notice
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  Speaker 3: a year ago, that he misses blocks or he gets beat,
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  Speaker 3: you know. So again, that doesn't mean he's played a
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  Speaker 3: terrible game, because there's a lot of plays, you know.
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  Speaker 3: So if a guy gets beat on three plays and
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  Speaker 3: he's playing whatever, the number of snaps was sixty, some
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  Speaker 3: aren't snaps. I don't know if if Jeff Stallin charts
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  Speaker 3: that is him having a bad game, or hey, he
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  Speaker 3: had three or four bad plays and we can correct
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  Speaker 3: those with some technique work. But I'm just saying I
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  Speaker 3: notice him getting beat more than I did a year ago.
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  Speaker 6: Greg from a Rams defense standpoint, I wanted to point
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  Speaker 6: something out. You noted that they rushed five or more
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  Speaker 6: on fourteen of thirty seven Hurtz dropbacks, which is roughly
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  Speaker 6: thirty three percent. So Greg, clearly the Rams did something
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  Speaker 6: differently on defense than they had been doing, because they
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  Speaker 6: blitz at over a thirty three percent clip and they
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  Speaker 6: came into the game around twelve percent. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 6: a dramatic difference. How much did that jump out of
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  Speaker 6: you at tape and huse? Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean no, they blitzed a good amount, and
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  Speaker 3: they featured defensive backs, which you know, not a lot
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  Speaker 3: of teams do. I mean, the Chiefs do, the Bucks do.
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  Speaker 3: They're going to see that this coming week. They always
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  Speaker 3: have trouble with it too against Tampa. But yeah, that
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  Speaker 3: was that was a big deal that they used defensive
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  Speaker 3: backs to blitz quite a bit. I mean they did
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  Speaker 3: on the mccullis sack. The other player I remember was
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  Speaker 3: the fourth down I think it was early in the
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  Speaker 3: fourth quarter when the Lake came off the edge and
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  Speaker 3: he forced Jalen out of the pocket. He threw the
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  Speaker 3: eat incompletion that probably should have been intercepted, but it
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  Speaker 3: was better that he knocked it down because it was
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  Speaker 3: fourth down. Yeah, so they they were pretty aggressive, which
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  Speaker 3: is somewhat interesting given their corners, you know, but up
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  Speaker 3: to this point, in the season, the Eagles had not
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  Speaker 3: really taken advantage of being, you know, working the outside.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this was the first game where Jalen really
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  Speaker 3: threw the ball to AJ Brown outside the numbers, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and it was the third game of the season. Now,
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  Speaker 3: they've done that over the last number of years as
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  Speaker 3: well as any team in the league, working outside the
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  Speaker 3: numbers with Hurtz to Brown, but they hadn't really done
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  Speaker 3: it until this game.
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  Speaker 2: So it sounds like you think that they were trying
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  Speaker 2: to catch the Eagles at a time where that normal
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  Speaker 2: downfield connection that they thrive on, those one and ones,
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  Speaker 2: they weren't for whatever reason, hitting them very often in
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  Speaker 2: the rams. Maybe thought that they could capitalize on that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they certainly know more than I do about many things,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because coaches no coaches, and you know, they
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  Speaker 3: understand all that, so they know more than I do.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just watching tape. But clearly they felt that this
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  Speaker 3: was the way to go in this game. And quite frankly,
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  Speaker 3: until Jalen started, you know, pumping Aj in the in
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  Speaker 3: the I guess mid third quarter ish, it had been
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  Speaker 3: very successful.
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  Speaker 2: Just interesting team coming out of the comfort zone like that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean every once in a while, Like we'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about Vic in our next one. Vic seems to be
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  Speaker 2: blitzing a little bit more than normal, but not at
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  Speaker 2: like you know, from twelve percent to three is quite
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  Speaker 2: a that's quite a I mean that that's a drastic
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  Speaker 2: philosophical difference, So that that's a tell that they think
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  Speaker 2: that there's something they could.
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  Speaker 5: And the blitzing of the corners was interesting greg Or macaulay, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: which you talked about in the pregame, like that's one
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  Speaker 5: got to look at and there you are.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's well, he's kind of there in
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  Speaker 3: their dime. He's kind of their wild card. He lines
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  Speaker 3: up anywhere. He will helped like post safety, he'll blitz,
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  Speaker 3: he'll play in the box. And Lake is a really
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  Speaker 3: good football player too, who's very multi dimensional in what
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  Speaker 3: he can bring to the table. So you know, for
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  Speaker 3: for what three two and a half, even look the
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  Speaker 3: Goddard play, which we'll get to. I don't want to
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  Speaker 3: say it's an aberration, but it just was a perfect
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  Speaker 3: play call against the coverage they got. But putting that
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  Speaker 3: play aside, they really the past game was really not
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't there. It just which was kind of the
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  Speaker 3: way it wasn't at all. It kind of had been
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  Speaker 3: the way it'd been through the first two games.
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  Speaker 2: Right right, yeah, all right, So let's talk a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more about x's and knowns greg Eagles offense. They've
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  Speaker 2: been kind of varying between eleven and twelve personnel. They
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  Speaker 2: play more twelve personnel than usual, but it seemed like
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  Speaker 2: there was a little bit of a shift there this game.
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  Speaker 3: This game was high percentage eleven personnel eighty three percent.
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  Speaker 3: You know, again, it's hard to know the reason. You know,
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  Speaker 3: maybe they I don't know, you know, maybe they felt
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  Speaker 3: they with the personnel the Rams would have put on
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  Speaker 3: the field because obviously the Rams then would would play
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  Speaker 3: their nickel, whereas their base is a five to two.
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  Speaker 3: So uh, you know, it's it's it's hard to know,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the exact reason for that, but they certainly
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  Speaker 3: played a high percentage of eleven personnel in this game.
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  Speaker 5: Jeff, two things. It's a and we talked about this
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  Speaker 5: in the pregame show. They were so down at corner
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  Speaker 5: with Witherspoon on ir uh you know that you figured
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  Speaker 5: the Eagles, Now they didn't do it for the second
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  Speaker 5: half once they got to the second half. As Greg said,
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  Speaker 5: in the middle of the third quarter, then it really
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  Speaker 5: started going in for the corners. But it also gets
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  Speaker 5: Ka Katara off the field, and we talked about repeatedly
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  Speaker 5: how he struggled in pass blocking. Kaka Terra played less
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  Speaker 5: than twenty percent of the snaps. I think he didn't
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  Speaker 5: really played very much.
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  Speaker 3: So well, he didn't play a lot. And you know
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  Speaker 3: the other thing, Jeff, it could be the way the
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  Speaker 3: game played out too. I mean, you know, who knows
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  Speaker 3: if they had been able to run the ball really
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  Speaker 3: well right from the star in the game, you know,
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  Speaker 3: didn't get away from them a little bit. You know,
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  Speaker 3: maybe they stay more than twelve personnel, but you know, clearly,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when they wanted to throw the ball, they
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  Speaker 3: they decided to go with eleven personnel. They had to
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  Speaker 3: throw the ball at some point.
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  Speaker 2: I know you felt you noticed in as the game
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  Speaker 2: went on that there were some throws that Joan made
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  Speaker 2: that were some pretty good progression raids.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, there are a couple of times I
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  Speaker 3: thought he did that really well, you know, and I
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  Speaker 3: think people get the sense that you know, he can't
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  Speaker 3: do that, well, he can do it, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: would say that they don't do it a lot, and
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't do it a lot, and I don't know
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  Speaker 3: the reason for that, but I thought that he made,
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  Speaker 3: you know, some some good position reads in this game.
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  Speaker 3: There was one in particulary which was actually the same
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  Speaker 3: play as on the McCullough sack. It was they came
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  Speaker 3: back to the same play and I think that was
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  Speaker 3: probably third quarter. I'm trying to think exactly when it
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  Speaker 3: was again, I definitely, oh, yeah, it was six. It
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  Speaker 3: was Smith sixteen yards on third and ten on their
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  Speaker 3: third third quarter possession. I said, was Hurts at his best,
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  Speaker 3: working through his progression and hitting Smith laid in the
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  Speaker 3: down on an outside dig. It was the same concept
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  Speaker 3: they ran on the mccullis sack, messed with double dig
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  Speaker 3: behind it. This time Hirts was clean in the pocket
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  Speaker 3: versus the Rams three man rush. Lake added in late
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  Speaker 3: and it was cover two behind it. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: Jalen did a great job there. He had time, he
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  Speaker 3: worked through the progression and it was a big third
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  Speaker 3: down conversion.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one of the most important players of
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  Speaker 2: the game.
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  Speaker 5: It's see and they and they talked about it after
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  Speaker 5: the game. Players did it seemed like when they want tempo.
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  Speaker 5: Jalen started feeling it. He just seemed to be in
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  Speaker 5: a rhythm. Whereas the first half, I mean, yeah, you're
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  Speaker 5: watching the tape, so we're at home watching, right, I
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  Speaker 5: feel like they could not get anything going. And yes
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  Speaker 5: they did blitz, which is surprising. Second half, it's just amazing.
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  Speaker 5: It was like again the tail of two halves. He
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  Speaker 5: was in a rhythm. No, here's another question. Did their
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  Speaker 5: line protect him better? Did you think, yeah they did?
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  Speaker 3: I mean yes, I would say that that's true for sure.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah they did. You know, when this was
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  Speaker 3: a game where they did go more no huddle, and
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  Speaker 3: that's another factor that's I probably forgot to put that
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  Speaker 3: in my notes typing everything, But they went more no huddle.
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  Speaker 3: I mean twelve of Jalen's dropbacks were no huddle and
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  Speaker 3: he was nine for ten for eighty yards with a touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: So again, they did more in you know, as this
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  Speaker 3: game progressed, probably because they had to, but they did
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  Speaker 3: more of that than in either of the first two games,
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: and more like last year, where no huddle was clearly
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: a foundation of the way in which they played.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think some of our YouTube conspiracy theorists have
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: the cart before the horse on the no huddle because
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: some are suggesting that the no huddle is the reason
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: why the offense functioned so well and wondering why they
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: didn't do it earlier in the game. And my counter
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: that would be, well, you can't go no huddle when
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: you're facing second and eight and third and ten and
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: third and fifteen. You have to be ahead of this,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: you have to be with the sticks. It's hard to
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: go to a huddle. Why are you gonna go no
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: huddle so that you can run the ball of Saquon
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: on third and fifteen up the middle riskly trying to punt.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: They had no very few positive plays to be able
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: to then get to the line and huddle, So.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: It was no huddle normally, Again nothing's one hundred percent,
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: but no huddle teams normally start getting into no huddle
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: after they get a first down or after maybe they
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: on first down they gain eight yards. You know, you
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: may your point is one hundred percent, correct, Jeff, I
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: mean you don't. You don't go no huddle when it's
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: third and twelve.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Right, And I know the conspiracy theorists think that they
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: went no huddle because that allowed Jalen Hurts to make
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: all the play calls and neutered Kevin Petula.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: So we're only three weeks in and.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: R By the way, no huddle. There's forms of no huddle.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: There's no huddle where you stand at the line and
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: you can still snap the ball with one second on
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: the play clock. No huddle, which happens a lot. There's
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: no huddle where you go really fast and the quarterback
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: does control the game. And then there's kind of that
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: mid tempo no huddle where you're kind of in between
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: fast and slow. So there's really three forms of no huddle.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: I'm sure most people assume no huddle means you're just
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: snapping the ball right away. That's not necessarily true.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Correct, And also, you know, no huddle can be used
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: differently r like for example, sometimes it's great to no
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: huddle against a team that substitutes a lot up front
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: so that you keep those guys off the sideline. I'm
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: not sure, I'll ask you. I'm not sure that was
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: the reason against the Rams. I don't think the Rams
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: have like seven or eight guys. No, no, no, no,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: there was just a function of what the Eagles do.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: It was a function of the fact that the Eagles
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: needed to sort of change the tempo of the game
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: for obvious reasons, and then they started to make a
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: couple of plays and they just felt like, Okay, let's
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: start picking up the tempo.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: Because last year, in fact, I think you might have
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: had the numbers for us last year. Jalen's Hurts, his
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: numbers in no huddle were phenomenal. Last year they were phenomenal. Yeah,
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: and you know, Deve Flippo, John D. Flippa told me
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: one year, I forget where he was. It might have
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: been Gardon Minshew and Jackson, one of the quarterbacks he coached,
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: was so good with tempo and it got him to rhythm.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: It It fit the quarterback because the game more responsibility,
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: You're you're moving faster and you got to make quicker decisions.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: That was the thing that he told me. And Hurts
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: was just such a rhythm. Jeff, in the second half,
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: as I sent it back to you, it's kind of
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: like you talk about it Tail two Haus. They were
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: anemic on offense, pathetic on offense in every phase.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Well this way last year Hurts had one hundred and
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: eight dropbacks and no huddle. Now again, You don't necessarily
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: have to do that every single game. The Eagles had
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: some games last year where they dominated. You just go
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: play ball, you know. But he had one hundred and
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: eight dropbacks and this is regular season, so that's what's
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: And he played how many games last year because.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: He missed I think he played fifteen?
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, so fifteen mean one hundred and eight, So fifteen
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: times seven if I do the math, is that one
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: hundred and five.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Something like that, Yeah, right around there.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so that's on average seven. He was phenomenal
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: in no huddle. He completed. He was seventy one for
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: ninety six, completing seventy four percent, with three touchdowns and
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: no picks. He was only sacked five times. Well, I mean,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: you know again, and we talked about this last week.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: You know, I think Kevin Petulo has to get into
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: a rhythm too, people, you know, that's part of it.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: You know, Jalen has to feel comfortable with the play calls.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Kevin Petulo has to feel comfortable with how the game
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: progresses because that's new to him. You know. So there's
• 20:29
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• 20:32
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• 20:35
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• 20:38
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• 20:41
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• 20:44
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  Speaker 2: All right, good stuff? Why don't we take a look
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: at them all twenty two. I want to go focus
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: really in on early on some of the things that
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: went wrong, and we'll go on what went right. You
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: had mentioned the blitzing here, and there was one early
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: in the game. This is McCullough is going to come
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: from pretty deep here, Greg to get a sack on
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Jaalen Hurts. So why don't you set the stage of
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: what the Rams are doing here?
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this was the the McCulla sack, which was the
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: third and eight. So this came out of a six
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: man front look with Stuart the fifth defensive lineman. He
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: was on the ball in the a gap with the
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: safety curl lined up over the right tackle prior. That's
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: how they kind of set this up. So you know,
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: you can kind of see as you run it a little, Jeff,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: just to see it sort of start develop. So they
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: basically have a six man front, okay, and you can
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: see it. So now now here's the way you block it.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: You got five to block, whichever five probably, and you
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: got the back and I believe it's Barkley here, is
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: it not?
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So they're not going to rush all all. You know,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: the guys, you see that number ten, Stewart drops out.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: I love that kid, by the way, I loved Hi
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Pimenetta Michigan. He played a lot of snaps this week too.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: He's very strong. So they end up with a five
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: man pressure against a six man protection. Now again, you
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: can start getting caught up in who made the mistake
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: here if you keep going forward. I personally believe Barkley
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: made it. Like, I don't know why Barkley would be
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: reacting to Verse.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, he's picking up the wide rush, right, but.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: That's an edge defensive lineman. Verse, who's Prior's guy. I mean,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: so to me, Barkley's got to recognize this and pick
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: And by the way, you know, Hurts didn't recognize it,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: but Hurts shouldn't. This should have been picked up. Mm hm,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe Hurts did recognize it and figured it
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: was picked up. Yeah, he took a shot there too. Man.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I thought this was the hardest that hurt I mean,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: even Hurts never fumbles, but the way Verse hit him
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: on that strip sack, I mean, there was no way
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: he couldn't fumble because hurt. Verse didn't even go for
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: the ball, He just leveled him. On the right hard.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: He took some director.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he hit him hard.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I agree with you. I thought the
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: same thing watching it that Saquon. I couldn't understand why
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Saquon was blocking. It was double teaming with prior to
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: block Verse and not taking the guy who would or Yeah.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know it's it's you know again, I said,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Hurts did not recognize the pressure. Maybe he did, and
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: and maybe he expected it to be picked up, which
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: it should have been picked I mean when you look
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: at it from the end zone as you're just showing it,
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: I mean it should have been picked up.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Right. You want to to Aj immediately here, like right
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: or out of the mesh point, get rid of the ball
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: right here to AJ if you can.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he probably could have for sure.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what was going on?
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, you know, it's you know. Barkley had
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: a couple of blocks later in the game. They were
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: actually pretty good. He had a good block on the
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: brown fade, the short fade for a touchdown. But he's
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: not a great pass protector.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Right, Jeff.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: The biggest knock on him from the people we spoke
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: with at the time of signing last year was pre
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: snap sorting. He just really struggled with it.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he does.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And that that's the thing you get concerned about
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: because with Shipley out, who will be guy who'll play
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: on third down? We'll see if he could play this week.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: They don't really have another guy.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, you're right. You're right. At the times last
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: year that we credited sae Quon Barkley and say, hey,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: he's making improvement, seemed to be when he knew exactly
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: who to block, where to get his body and right.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: But the sorting element is half the battle, and you
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: got to know who you're responsible for before anything.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: And that time, well, you know, running backs have to
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: understand fronts and pressures the same as quarterbacks, right, and
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: that's Look, we all know there's some guys who stay
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: in the league just because they can do that really
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: really well.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: Jeremy McNichols. By the way, you talked to someone who's
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: now with Washington, Jeff, Yeah, in the league because he
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: could pass protect.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, some guys are really really good at it.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: All right. I mentioned those seventeen plays where the Eagles
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: basically did nothing from the bottom of the end of
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: the first quarter to the third. But here we go.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: This is ironically happens after after a holding call by Landon,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Dickerson puts him at I believe it was like third
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: and twelve, and this is where he hits aj Brown
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: for thirty eight yards right before the Goddard touchdown.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Oh and the god it touchdown was the next play.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, it was. So I'll take a look at this
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: is the third quarter. This is to me what opens
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: it up Greg that the first big play of what
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: would all of a sudden become a bunch of big plays.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: And it looks like the Rams here are showing like
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: they want to be aggressive upfront.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well this was if this was slugo, right, it was, Yeah, yeah,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: this was slugo. They started to drive. This was when
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: they were at there. They started to drive with an
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: outcut to Brown for eight yards. This is when they
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: started getting Brown involved in the game. This was their
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: second third quarter possession, so.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: They slug slant up and go right.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: They started to drive with an outcut for eight yards
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: to Brown and then on second and thirteen he hits
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Brown for thirty eight yards on slug o. So you
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: know this was you can run it.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: This was just you know, I just wanted to note
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: they are interestingly here in twelve personnel. You see the
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: two tight ends lined up so on a second in
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: line right, so it's.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: A closed boundary and twins to the field. So what
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: they're getting from the front is not unusual here for
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: the Rams, I mean, because they're in the twelve personnel
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: So the RAMS are playing you know, the twelve personnel package.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: So but yeah, they were gonna Hurts knows now that
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: he's got Brown one on one because of the positioning
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: of the safeties, so you know, this is not this
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: read in and of itself isn't tough. But he made
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: a great throw hand. This was actually pretty good coverage
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: because Durance playing off coverage, so you know he does
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: obviously if you run it, he does react.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: But he's kind of like right here, right there, there's.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: A little bit what's that he recovers a little bit.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but if you see where Jalen throws, jill'st
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: the ball right now and this is a good Yeah,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: his brow is not open, right.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. This is the trust factor that we've seen over
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: the years. I mean, it's his guy running vertically, he's
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: gonna he's gonna give him a chance. And again he's
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: not wide open. He's giving him a chance.
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: Because he got a past strushure who he had to
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: avoid a little bit.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I was fisk.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Somebody was in hurts.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly as he's throwing there.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you could see it.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: But he didn't lose any velocity or he didn't lose
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: y throw, didn't lose any accuracy. It is downfield though,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, you got to be able to get your
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: your fresh.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: It's great ball.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: It's a great ball, right, a big time NFL. What
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: an incredible catch and a great throw.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: It's a great ball and a great catch. Because that's
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: pretty good coverage right there.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: That's that's pretty You would call that the NFL very
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: good coverage.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really good coverage.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I'm sure what's Who's fourteen again is that he wouldn't
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: have played that any better, but that.
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: He's a smaller guy and this is one where Brown
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: should bid and muscle him, and he did. This is
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: just a great player.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: So let's see it from the end zone to see
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: the pressure.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you know what, I may have just because
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to highlight to throw.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, this is this is great.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: This is great. This is great, This is you know,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: this is what we've been waiting for for two games.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like that's Dickerson on Fisk, by the way,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: who gets taken to the outside of Fish.
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's Dickerson sixty correct, I.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Should say inside. I'm sorry, it kind of goes just
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: to inside shoulder on him.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: And it's just a great throw, great ball, absolutely ball strength.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: This is what he does as well as any quarterback
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: in the league is make those kinds of throws.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Right, And then of course the very next play after that.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: You know, this play I watched many times because I
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: just this is football to me, this is you know,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: this this was all go special versus Cover two invert,
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: and it couldn't have been done any better. Okay, because
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: it's as if they knew they were going to get
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: this coverage, and maybe they did, because they played a
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: lot of Cover two up to this point. So what
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: I mean by cover two invert, Okay, Cover two invert
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: means that the corner becomes the deep path player. And
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: that's what happened down at the botto him to the
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: field down at the bottom of the screen. The corner
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: down below became the deep half player and the slot
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: became the flat player in cover two. So now, because
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: it's all go special, meaning it's four go routes and
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: a two by two set, which because that corner down
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: below becomes the deep half player, he's so far removed
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: with what's happening to the boundary that he's not even
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: a factor in this at all. So what happens is
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: is they're going to run all verts up top. And
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: because in cover two, the middle hole defender, who's the linebacker, spates,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: he opens to the field. They almost one hundred percent
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: of the time the middle hole defender in cover two
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: opens to the wide side of the field, So he's
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: not a factor either. Okay, so now what you inno
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: sense get is you get a two on one on
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: the safety to that side. That's essentially what you get here,
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: a two to on one, and that's Brown outside of
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: got her. And it's Brown intentionally because you know in
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: cover two that if Brown one runs vertically, that safety
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: has to expand to deal with Brown because the corner
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: can only sink so far. And Cover two because he's
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: a flat player.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: By the way, on the Matchup show last week at ESPN,
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: what did what did you guys talk about cover two
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: invert right? I remember that so great?
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: So this play it's as if this play was called
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: for this coverage. I mean, it probably looked watching the
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: game for people who don't know the coverage that it
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: was a bust, because god, it was so wide open.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: But it's not a bust. You can see the whole
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: thing develop.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Yep. Here, I'll freeze it halfway. I mistakenly thought, originally
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: looking at it, that it was just turning from cover
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: two to cover three. Now, I didn't realize the responsibility
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: you were saying of the of the corner to play
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: the flat right.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: See the corner down below is expanding. He's the flat player,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: and that's Durant again. Here's he's he's the he's a
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: half field safety.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: Here rights and seventy four it right tackle, good job, yeah, yep.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: And that leaves the teams those two receivers on the outside.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Like you said, it widens the defense and leaves those
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: seams wide open. It almost felt greg It almost felt
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: like he could have Hurts could have picked his poison
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: between Goddard and Dotson.
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: Is that well?
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: But got HER's the right throw here without without question,
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: because you know, as soon as he sees his safety,
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: good throw the field, safety drop down, he knows what
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: he's got. He knows what he's got. I mean, this
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: is this is pitch and catch, This is perfect route concept,
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: all go special versus dis coverage. Jalen knew what he had. Ye,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: great throw. This was not oh where should I go
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: with it? He knew what he had.
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: Well, It's funny, Goddard said after the game. He goes,
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: you know, we don't throw a lot of seam passes.
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: He just told the truth. Yeah, and he let He
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: was very happy. He's like, this is great. He got
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: open in the middle and they're not going to stop him.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: The Eagles have been seeing a lot of cover too,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Greg the last three weeks. I mean, I feel like
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: they've played.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: They played, and the Rams played a lot of it
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: up to this point, which you know, like I said,
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: could have been called with the because this was first
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: intend it was the play right after the Brown, great
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: catch we saw and great ball by Hurts. You know,
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: they they could have anticipated because everything in football's probability
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: and tendency. Nothing's one hundred percent. But you feel pretty good,
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: you know about what you're going to get.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Right, all right, one more and that is the deep
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: dig we're gonna look at.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Was this the Smith? Third down?
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: It is third down? And this was a really nice player,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I thought, and what we used to talked about with
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: the progression read but one of the this.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Was the same ground concept as the McCall a sack
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: where it was mesh and and the and the double
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: dig behind it. And Jalen initially looks to his right
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: and it's not there, and then he's really well protected
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: here and he's able to come back to Smith, uh
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: running the dig to his to his left, and that's
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: that Smith in motion right and will shift.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: It's yeah, you know, so it's obviously is that is
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: this still? Is this one or two? Because the guy
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: is drifting back one or two shell deep.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: The coverage, Yeah, keep running it.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I had trouble deciphering it myself, so.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I think this is two.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: They're just not the safeties just are not at the
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: same depth.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's nothing on the right side of the field.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: Go back.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: It's it's because as soon as is that a JF
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: top yes to your watch what he runs if you
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: play it, so he doesn't runs part of the mash.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: There's no reason for that safety on that side to
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: keep retreating because there's no vertical threat whatsoever.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Got it all right, So at the bottom, I'm gonna
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: rerun so we can all focus on Davante Smith.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: He comes in motion, he shifts to the to the bunch.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: He's number three in the bunch, yep, and you'll see
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: it's a mesh underneath mm hm And it's basically now
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Devanta Smith had a widen his route, which is why
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: this took longer because of what the uh? I think
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: that's uh Quinton Lake who pushes him outside because this
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: took a long time, but fortunately hurts that all day
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: due to uh the pass protection? What the Fred Johnson again,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Jeff Smith, you know it's not meant for it to
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: take that long for him to run the outside dig
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: right way?
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Is is this a planned blitz or does Quentin Lake
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: just say I have no responsibilities here, so I'm gonna
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: go rush the quarterback.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: You know, it was a three man rush initially, and
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: I think he added in late. You know, I I
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: think he was probably part of the pressure, but uh huh,
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: because it was a four man pressure and I think
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: it's covered two.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. I think we've adam. We learned
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: that Fangio sometimes likes to have defenders almost like a
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: chip block on an off of but like hit a
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: guy and then blitz.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: Oh that was from okay, that was from.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: From when Gannon started running the defense.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this dick shouldn't take as long. But you know,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: there's nothing to bunder Smith could do, and because Jalen
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: had so much time, he worked through the whole because
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: there's no one else open.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Right, Great, Yeah, that was such a huge player, And
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: really I wanted to highlight the protection here. I just
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: thought it was great protection. We'll watch it from this end.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: I get it. It's just a three man rush, but
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: it was a complex one. I mean, they had a man.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Front to start to play, so therefore it becomes initially
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: one on one what we call five to zero protection.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: And now guys can help afterwards, but they're starting out
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: with with one on one protection.
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: Right, Jeff, I don't think Fred Johnson had worked at
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: right tackle from what I understand it, Okay, I mean
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: the reporters could ask.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: I just think he's so long armed at him and
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: he gets a great punch right there and He's able
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: to use.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Them too because they drop down. Look out.
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, Greg. That pocket is incredibly clean and
• 39:17
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• 39:19
  Speaker 5: at his best him and he sees it. Waits, didn't
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: bailt didn't move, didn't break himself down.
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  Speaker 3: The point is, I think the past game really took off.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: They started to work Brown on the outside. The Goddard play,
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: you know, came right after the first round play, which
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: in some ways jump started the offense. And the Goddard
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: play was just a great call, you know, the perfect
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: play call. And then when when push came to shove,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, I you know, I made that point of
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: my notes and even even in the stuff I did
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: last summer when I send you guys all my notes
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: from watching, I said, and you know, Brown is so
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: critical to everything they do because he can win on
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: the outside and Jalen throws the ball on the outside. Well,
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: you still don't see a lot of throws inside. I mean,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: the god Or play was inside obviously, but that was
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: just the perfect play call wide open. It wasn't you know,
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: it wasn't a window throw per se. You know, So
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: we'll see where they go for we look. The bottom
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: line is people are probably going to think, well, why
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: don't they do this every game? You know they do
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: theoretically they do some of this every game, but you
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: know they're not They're not really built like that, and
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: then people have to ask the question as to why
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: they're not built like that.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Well, I think maybe there's a fair argument. Ause Adam
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: and I were sort of debating this in the postgame show.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: Is all right, you know, you have to be a
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: little bit different this year than you were last year,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: and they've talked about generation and maybe it wouldn't hurt
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: you to come out with some of the It's like, again,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: it felt like there are forced feeding Saquon. Maybe they
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: thought he was gonna break one. He's gonna break one.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: I think if you go and.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: It's usually just two or three plays, Greg, you know,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: that's probably better than anybody where you go back and
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: you say, maybe there is where you don't just run
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: the ball on second down because you just didn't get
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: enough on like you try opening up that right with
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: some better fresher stuff on first and second down.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: You know, even on that first series where they scored,
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: you know, just to wrap up, you know, I think
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: a great example of who they are is what happened
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: on that first series when uh wasn't there a fourth
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: and Uh there wasn't there a fourth and two? Maybe
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: on that first series.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Is that the one ling converted it with a run?
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but yes, yes, the fourth and two where they're
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: in you know, they're in rams territory. They're not going
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: to kick a field goal, so he ran for eighteen
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: yards on his own read concept. You know, they're a
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: four down offense and plus territory. I mean it's plays
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: like that. You know a lot of teams are not
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: going to do that. You know that's what they are,
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: and then you know you've got to you got to
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: defend Jalen Hurts in those situations and they didn't.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, that has been a look at the
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: Eagles offense, and in the next episode we'll get through
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: the defense. So thank you again to Greg Cosell. For
• 44:29
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