Latest / The Hack Box / Ep. 115: Is it ok to fat shame?

Transcript

Ep. 115: Is it ok to fat shame? · The Hack Box

• JRD: We tripping. Brev: Yeah. JRD: Let me just cut to the chase. Don: To the chase. Was this episode one one fifteen? One fourteen? One of those. Brev: 15 or 16. Don: Yeah. JRD: going on for a while. Brev: I think it's 16. Don: what we got today? JRD: Yeah. Brev: All right, well we got, we're gonna start off with How You Will Feel and then Josh's Hack of the Week. So, go ahead and start this off. Don: Wait, time out. Wha why are we doing Hack of the Week second? I meant to say that. JRD: I got a week's last. Brev: I kind of just put them in the same segment. JRD: Okay. Don: Swap swap the Hack of the Week with heat hate watch or whatever. JRD: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Brev: So you want to hate watch in the first segment? Don: Yeah, after you're how you really feel. Brev: All we'll just switch JRD: Yeah. Brev: that then. All right. So we'll start off. All right. So I think that there is a difference, or at least I differentiate, there's a difference between body shaming and fat shaming. And I think that actual body shaming is a lot worse than fat shaming. And to elaborate on that, I think that if you fat shame someone, I mean, like say you fat shaming friends, like it's out of love really. Hey bro, you getting big. Now that's harmless because fat shaming, so that's, you're kind of just like letting someone know that they can fix something naturally. That's something you can fit naturally is your body fat. Now when it to body shaming, I think I, I kind of categorize that as kind of you're like, you're shaming a part of a body or a part of a person that can't be changed naturally. So like say, you make fun of someone's nose, make fun of someone's ears and how they look, make fun of their fingers. Bro, you can't fix that naturally. So you're just making fun of someone, of how they were born really. And that's a lot worse than fat shaming. Like I said, if you're fat shaming your friends, like it's usually out of love. Like when I gained weight, mean, the first thing people would say to me, mean, my fucking, my dad, my grandma, my boys, like, damn, you gained weight, bro. You're kind of, kind of getting big. I'm like, all right. I mean, I took that like, as like, all right, I'm not taking it personally. I got to fix that. Like, if your body shames someone, bro, that's just like low key evil, bro. Like you're, like, if you're just making fun of someone of how they like, just like look, or like something they were like born with, like. they can't fix naturally without like surgery and everything like that. That's how you cause real insecurity in someone, right? Not fast shaming. Fast shaming is strictly for people's health, bro. like I said, you say to your boys out of like out of love, bro. And it's not, Don: Mm-hmm. Brev: it's not the same. And it's not evil to fashion someone like we love Josh, bro. but we would never body shame Josh. You know what mean? Don: Well well what when I call Josh a fat short piece of shit, JRD: No, but, but I'm finished. Brev: Yeah Don: I'm body shaming and I'm also fat shaving him. So call that what you want. Brev: I guess. Well, that's you, but... JRD: all Me saying something, I'm probably gonna shoot myself in the foot of my foot in my mouth, but It's the same as that shit. It's the same as that thing. Like you have to realize That all because one thing is good and one thing is bad It can still be the same thing like you know Body Brev: Nah. JRD: shaming someone because they're fat if they're fat it's their body. You said yourself you said I'm just making fun of their body fat They both have body in it Brev: Yeah, but you got to differentiate them. They're completely different. JRD: exact thing and it's no no no there's no differentiations it's like you're nitpicking it's called nitpicking you're saying like you can't make fun of someone if they're cock-eyed but you can make fun of someone if they're fat those are those are your ideologies you can't be like like Brev: Yeah, bro being fat was being JRD: No, I get it. Okay, Brev: fat was their choice, bro JRD: what do they have a thyroid problem? I know that's very slim to none. What do have a thyroid problem? What do they get so big when they need surgery to remove the fat? Is it, no, he's fat as fuck. You can't make fun of him anymore because now he needs surgery. Or is it because, whoa, he got to that point so it's okay to make fun of him? That's the congenitivness of Don: What if he was depressed, bro? JRD: your body's depressed, you know? And you can't say that, like, Brev: Still. JRD: negative reinforcement doesn't work with everyone. You can't be like for you, maybe work for me, maybe for JD as well. But you can't say for every single person, if I make fun of him for being fat, it's gonna make him wanna lose weight. And that goes with anything. Let's say if like, someone, Brev: I'm not, that's not what I was saying. JRD: you literally said that. Like you were just saying, let's like. Brev: No, I'm not saying that, I'm not saying that, I mean, I'm saying as an example, we use like fat shaming as like a wake up call to our boys. JRD: I know that you use that as justification as why it's okay as a wake-up call You just said then why do you? Brev: Nah bro, but that's something that can be fixed naturally though. Well, okay, how about this? Fat shaming is like a sub category to body shaming and it should Don: It it is. Brev: be separated. JRD: So is making fun of someone for their fingers. It's a subcategory as well. It's all Brev: Nah. Nah. JRD: like what do you mean if you're making fun of someone's appearance? It's body shaming Regardless who is aha Brev: but they should be differentiated. JRD: They are differentiated there's fat shaming there's height shaming as you make fun of some deformities It's already separated. No one says it's the same exact thing Some are worse than others agreed Brev: Mm-hmm. JRD: And that depends on who you ask. But for you to say one's okay and not the other? I don't know. That seems like that's your opinion. Exactly. Don: It's kinda like religion, bro. Religion's religion is one word and there's a category and you got different JRD: Yeah. Don: religions. So this is kinda like you saying that one religion's bad just because the other one is. So you're basically saying Jews are bad? Come on, bro. Brev: No. JRD: Yeah, yeah, exactly. say, I'm Baptist, but if you're Protestant, Brev: Nah. JRD: you're bad person. Don: What do you got against Jews, bro? JRD: Yeah, that's crazy. Brev: No, so like I think like saying making fun of someone's appearance like how they were born like they're like the size of their nose or something like that bro or if they have like a like a you know like a crooked nose Don: Yeah. Brev: you know that's way worse than fat shaming someone bro way worse Don: I don't do so. Brev: and I think it's like five times worse JRD: Okay, can I ask you a question? What's worse, killing someone or stealing someone's car? Brev: What's worse, killing someone or stealing someone's car? JRD: Yeah. Brev: Killing someone, for sure. JRD: Are they both crimes? Brev: They're both crimes, yes. JRD: early both bad. Brev: Yes, they are, but this is not what I'm talking about though. JRD: So with that logic, something can be worse than something else, but that doesn't mean one is good. They both can be bad. That's why they have the word worst. Brev: Well, when I started, said, I didn't say that one was good. I did use examples in where I was like, know, it is a wake up call for the boys. Like when you call your boy fat, like, hey, bro, you letting go. But I first started, but all I first, when I, no, so, not all the time. Not all the time. Not all the time. Not all the time, bro. JRD: So do you say it right here on the hat box right now? It's fat shaming bad Say it right now on the pot. It's fat shaming bad go Say it right now. It's fat shaming bad. Is it yes or no? So so so what Don: What do you mean not all the time? JRD: does that mean? Brev: Not all the time. JRD: Yeah, all the time. All the time when? Don: Well, it's not all the time me. JRD: What does that mean? Brev: I'm not fat shaming someone I don't know. JRD: Okay, great. Is it wrong to fat shame? Is fat shaming wrong? Yes Brev: But that's like... JRD: or no? Brev: Is it wrong to fat shame? No. JRD: Yes. Brev: No, not all the time. No, because when I first started, all I said when I started this, all I said was JRD: No. You hear me here first. On the head box. Revin said- Brev: no, when I started this, all I said was body shaming is way worse than fat shaming. So I didn't even specifically say. JRD: I was fat shaming that body shaming. Don: No. You started it saying that you think those two should be separate. JRD: They two should be separate Brev: Yeah, they should be. JRD: and they're the same thing. And you describe two different types of body shaming. Brev: And like if someone was, if someone was, they should refer like if you're making fun of someone's weight, they're fat shaming. Like that's how it should be differentiated. That's what you should say. But if you're making fun of someone's Don: but at the end of the day it's still body shaming. 'Cause it's JRD: At the end of day it's still body shaming. At the end of the day it's- it's- at end of the day- at the end of the day. Brev: earlobes, bruh, you're body shaming, bro. That's body shame. That's how your body was born, bruh. You're just shaming someone on how they were born. That's way worse. JRD: Some people are beat as opposed to getting laid. Don: People were born fat. Josh. Brev: Some people born big boned. Don: Josh was born fat. Brev: Some people born big boned. Don: Everyone is actually born fat when you're a baby. Every baby's born fat, bro. JRD: Yeah. Don: It's up to you to crawl around and walk around and lose that baby weight. Some people don't. JRD: Yep, and apparently I didn't. It stayed with me my whole life, Don: Yeah, you're true to size when you're born, bro. They're like, this is all he's getting. JRD: Just true to size, yep. I'll let get it, yep. Brev: know, bro. I just think it's way worse to make fun of how someone was born. To fascinate someone. But like, that's what I say. It's not good all the time, bro. Like JRD: Okay, and that's agree- we got them. No. We agreed on them. We're asking you a question. This is- we're trying to understand you better. Brev: Like I say, no, all right, so here. Like what I said, like if I said either Josh, you're fat, or I said, Josh, your fingers look weird. and that you were born and you had to you had like your fingers look weird because you were born that way. Which one's worse? Me calling you fat or me saying that your fingers look weird? JRD: Me personally It's how much a firm Don: You're saying his talking about his deformities is worse than calling him fat. JRD: you're talking about someone's a from his way worth and talk about so Brev: Yeah, exactly, bro. JRD: Wait, but there's still a bulk body Don: But w I'm just trying to get what the point is. JRD: say what's your point? Like? Brev: I'm just saying this is way worse. I think fat shaming. JRD: Brevin is trying to backtrack. It's okay Brevin. We caught you. The reason why we don't understand what you're saying is because Brevin Brev: No, you didn't catch shit, no. Don: It's okay, brother. It's crazy. JRD: Brevin the reason why you're struggling to explain yourself and for us to understand is because you're based on the words you said. We all have comprehension here. You were saying fat shaming for the most part it's okay because you get fat shaming in of your friends ha ha ha ha but when it comes to someone have a physical deformity that's never okay. That's what you're saying. Brev: You can't make fun of how someone was born, bro. I think you can't do that. JRD: That's what I just said. Don: So okay, so in that in that you can't make fun of short people anymore. Throw all your short jokes away. I don't want to hear you make fun of anyone short no more. You can't change JRD: Yeah. Don: that. JRD: Ask me yeah. I would, yeah. I can weigh more when you call me short than when you call me fat. You can't change my shortness. Yeah. Don: He can't change the shortness. Like you said, but he could he can get skinny. I don't know if he can, but for argument's sake. JRD: I got a 12 fact and he blow man. so if you go Don: Ha ha. JRD: crazy, so if they go crazy Don: Yo, you been missing the gym, huh, bro? Brev: So what I was saying is fat shaving is not bad all the time. JRD: If you hear it here first, you can fat- Brevin believes you can fat shame sometime. Brev: You fashion people what? JRD: Yes, clip it. Clip it. Clip it right now. Yeah, we gonna clip it. Yes, man. Don: Check clippy. Brev: You can fashion people, bro. What? JRD: As you know our fans, we just started a TikTok. We could be posting clips. And if you check later next week or so, you're gonna see that clip of Brevin... Cuddoning. fat shaver. Let's cover that for him. Don: trying you trying to cancel the homie is crazy. JRD: Okay, let's have it up for him. Brev: I'm clapping up for it, honestly. JRD: Yeah Brev: Hey man, obesity is a problem in America. Something needs to be done about it. The first Don: It's a disease, bro. Brev: thing, the first step to solving a problem is acknowledging the problem. JRD: acknowledging it, yes. So can you acknowledge without shaming? You can't be like, hey man, I see like your BMI is getting up. Do you want to go to the gym? What's going on? Brev: you mean there's different ways you could say communicate things to everyone so there's a billion different ways to communicate things but JRD: Yeah. Brev: Nothing will motivate you more than the boys saying that you're fat. JRD: Hmm, I want to hear that. Nothing will motivate you more. Brev: Like when we started saying that, when we were talking about you and Mazracing, when were saying you guys were slow, bruh, nothing motivated you guys more than that shit. JRD: Nah, I haven't been training. Brev: Negative reinforcement with the boys, bro. Don: I wouldn't try to motivate you. JRD: I-I'm-I don't need motivation. I'm Josh and Ryan divorce. I'm Dustin Moss. Like, I'm-come on, like... Don: my gosh, bruh. And my little JRD: brah. Don: brother, he'd be tapped in, bro. Shout out little brother. Brev: Shout out. Don: He was saying that He doesn't know who's gonna win that race. But obviously he hasn't seen Brev: Yeah, I don't either still. Don: you guys. I think he's seen Moss maybe in person once. But he hasn't seen Josh. And just based off the videos, I forgot who he initially said, but no he's like basically a tossed up. But I think he was leaning more towards I think he was leaning JRD: He he was, he told me. Don: towards more towards Moss. Yeah. So you got some Brev: Hmm, I still don't know who I'm gonna put money on Don: You got some daughters out there, Josh. JRD: Okay, I love it. I love the scrutiny. I love it Don: mean it's not scrutiny, bro. You're shaped like Kirby, bro. Like it's it's only logical it's only logical to assume that you're not fat. JRD: I'm not sure that could be, said screw it, I love it, Mm-hmm. I'm a fat blog, I'm a fat blog, yes. Give it to me, I'm a flat blog. Brev: What have moths been trading on the low, bruh? JRD: I'm a fat blo- he better be tatted! Don: Moss is not fat either, bro. He's officially crossed Brev: Yeah, but what if he trained on the low? Don: over from the young and fit body usually people have to the dad body. He's transitioned to the dad body maybe Brev: Yeah Don: like four or five years ago, maybe. And then yeah, what is he like twenty eight now? So when he was twenty three, he got the dad bot. JRD: Yeah. He dead. Brev: Damn. Don: And you Josh, you got like the JRD: And I showed you a picture of me when I was 24 years old and you guys were calling me fat and I was in great shape. And then you guys just ignored it. You guys ignored it. Brev: The newborn, the newborn baby, Bob. JRD: You guys just ignored it. You just ignored it. It's okay. It's okay, bro. Don: AI slot bro, I don't fuck with AI, bro. JRD: It's a nice laugh. He cut it AI, Brev: Ha ha ha! JRD: that's crazy. Don: You got some hay watch? Brev: All right, well, JRD: Yeah, Brev: yeah, we got a new segment. JRD: J.D. explain the segment, you know? Don: hey, watch basically get your little time to explain something that you really ultimately despise, bro. Like you do not like and it can just be something for you. Like you're not trying to prove that point to nobody. You're not trying to encourage anyone else to hate this. This is just how you feel about it. Like for instance, I cannot stand the fucking Lakers. I hate also hate peanut butter. Peanut butter is something that usually people typically like. People typically like the Lakers. But I Brev: discussing. Don: hate these things and I can explain how much I hate, but I don't need to have you come and join the hate 'cause I got enough hate for it. I don't need you there Brev: Ha! Don: to do with me. You what I JRD: Yeah. Alright, Don: So judge. JRD: being sad, let me say it. I hate how much people love ranch. I hate the use of ranch. I hate when people eat ranch in front of me. It pisses me off. I hate ranch. There is nothing people add on ranch that can't be substituted. Ranch isn't needed. ranch is kind of it's honestly a parasite when it comes to food they're putting it on pizza Don: Ha ha. JRD: putting it on wings that already have sauce i hate ranch and i also hate how much people love ranch i can't have a good like shut up you're a grown ass man and you telling me you can't eat a buffalo wing with awesome ranch what's a ranch As against to the point that I people don't like food, they just like ranch and they need a catalyst to consume the ranch because drinking it will be disgusting. Don: Ha ha ha. Brev: Yeah. JRD: I also hate how they go, this wing salt ranch is better than this ranch. Good ranch, bad ranch. Bro. Majority of the world doesn't even have that shit. If it was so crazy, it would have spread it, like all other good things. Everyone got barbecue sauce. That's what I have to say. Don: Wait, who don't use ranch? What countries don't use ranch? JRD: Every other country except for America. Brev: I don't think it's big in other countries. JRD: Only America uses ranch. Don: Is this facts or JRD: This is facts. You don't... Brev: Remember when all those people came over for the World Cup and they were loving ranch. They're bringing ranch back with them and shit. Yeah, they loved it. They were bringing shit back with them. Yeah. Yeah. Don: they were talking about ranch. But they were talking about how much how good it was or how nasty it was. They loved it, right? The foreign concept. JRD: Yes, man. Of course, of course, of course, course, if you're eating fucking beans and toast, you get some flavor you're gonna go crazy for. Don: All right, bro. It everyone coming out here was not just eating straight beans and toasts, bruh. JRD: People, people, it was only, it was only the UK people. The Spaniards, the Japanese, the Argentinians weren't talking about how good it was. It was just the people from the UK. Cause ranch is the mid. It's one Don: Mid JRD: of the worst, like, specialty sauces out there. When I mean specialty sauces, it's not part of the big family. know like ketchup, barbecue sauce, mustard, hot sauce. Don: Side note, if anyone knows about sauce, it's this guy. He knows about his food. JRD: I do hate, yeah I'm just saying, yeah whatever. I hate ranch. Brev: Well said it was mid so you must think it's alright. JRD: No, it's disgusting. I- I- But, Don: So JRD: I'm being realistic. If a lot of people like it, and it was disgusting, then it has to be mid. For example, Canes. Canes isn't seasoned chicken. I ate it a few times. I eat Canes. But, when people say it's disgusting, I'm like, bro, like, it's a billion dollar company. can't be disgusting. You can say it's mid. Like, you know? But you can't call it disgusting. Salad and pizza! People- yeah, Salad and pizza's disgusting. can be disgusting. There's salmon limits everywhere. Hell, let me be eating pizza. Yes, I know it's because it's cheap, it's accessible, all that stuff. But if it was disgusting, super unpalatable, nobody would eat it. Don: That's not true. There's a lot of disgusting things and Brev: Yeah. Don: that's only subjective to whoever's eating it. But you you would you don't like JRD: To you. There's something super disgusting I know what it is. Don: you don't like carrots in ranch? You ever tried that? JRD: I like cares about myself. Don: Have you tried Cares and Ranch? JRD: No. Don: Okay. Well I'm just I'm I'm gonna list a couple of things that you use ranch with and I'm just wanna know if you tried it or not. JRD: Okay. Don: Have you tried? Brev: You don't eat the veggies on the wing plate, huh? JRD: He ate the veg, ate slowly by itself, nigga. ha ha. Don: Course not, look at him. Kind of question is that, bro? Look at that guy. So you don't eat celery celery ranch? Never tried that? JRD: I used to sell it by myself. I like to sell it with peanut butter and raisins as on the log. Yes. Yes. Don: Okay, but have you tried it have you tried to wear a ranch? No? You have? You do you like you didn't like it? JRD: Disgusting, disgusting. Horrible. Don: Well peace unwrench. You tried that? JRD: Yes. Don: You didn't like that? JRD: I will say this. had some someone told me to dip the crust. was that pizza my heart. Dipped it in there, took a bite. It was alright. That was the only time ranch was alright. But even then I was like bah. Don: wrenching and wings? JRD: Fuck no, I would never waste the wing and put it in a ranch. I have been forced Don: So you haven't tried that? Brev: So do you like blue cheese? JRD: to. Don: And you don't like it? JRD: I don't like it. You know what? You know what? You know what? I'm Don: I think barbecue sauce and ranch mixture is very, very, very good. JRD: gonna take it a step further. You don't need dipping sauces for the most part, I'm gonna take it a step further. This sauce shit, it's sauces in general, honestly. I just had a rant because I didn't want it to seem crazy, but it's sauces in general. Now why do you need like, I you a dipping thing with your food. Why? Like, I get like chicken nuggets, barbecue sauce, mainly, but that's the whole thing. Like me, when I get a burger, cheese, Don: You eat that shit dry? JRD: cheese, some bacon, an onion, lettuce, good to go. I might get some light spread Don: You just choking on meat, bruh. JRD: at In-N-Out, but that's about it. What I can eat sauce for? Talking about, it's dry. You want your food wet? You want a wet burger? Yuck, Don: Yes, yes. JRD: yuck, yuck. Brev: Juicy burger, bruh. JRD: It's juicy. The sauce Don: You rather just choke on me. JRD: don't make it juicy. That's the meat. Brev: makes it juicier. JRD: No, it does not. Sauce does not make it juicier. Brev: Mm. JRD: ignorant ignorant Brev: seem like it. JRD: Bro Yes, by you way, this is supposed to be just me explaining why I hate something or supposed to move on but I guess We'll try that next next episode Don: Well, we still can discuss based off what you said. Brev: So, well, yeah, JRD: we're still in the sky? Brev: so do you like blue cheese? JRD: Okay. Fuck no. Brev: You like ketchup? JRD: Blue cheese dressing or blue cheese crumble? Brev: dressing. JRD: No. Brev: Cause I'm not mad at like when you say like, you don't really need dipping sauce for the wings because all the wings come in sauce anyways. I get that. So your beef is just with dipping sauces though. JRD: Exactly. Yeah, like when people get like Don: Yeah, that's pretty clean. JRD: Yeah, like when you get mango habanero and you still I need a ranch it's like bro you taste you taste buds can't taste all that Don: It's a can, bro. It's just a mixture of the flavors. How you gonna tell? How you gonna tell? You got JRD: It doesn't it doesn't it does not it not Science science that's how I can tell science Don: So what's the difference between you adding all that extra shit on your burger, bro? I feel like JRD: What do mean? Don: that's a lot. You adding tomatoes, lettuce, the patty, cheese. I'm just saying in general, in general. JRD: I didn't say tomatoes. I didn't break that down. I got you. Brev: What's the difference? JRD: I got you. Okay, well. When it comes to cheese, lettuce, off the bat, it different textures. know? A lettuce is crispy. You know I'm saying? Cheese has a different texture than the meat. Sauce for the most part. Don: So also the different texture from all that. JRD: No, all the sauces have the same texture for the most part. Stop it. You're gonna eat the mango habanero sauce? Don: as of each other, but not as Brev: No, yeah. Yeah. Don: the meat and the lettuce and the tomatoes. What? JRD: Again, again, I said dipping sauces. I don't like ketchup, but if want to put ketchup on your burger, I'm not mad at it. I'm gonna A-do you, bro. Sometimes I A-mad at my chicken sandwich. But if you want to put sauce on your burger, I'm not mad at it. I said dipping sauces for a reason. Now if you have, let's say for, like you know, I use salsa on my taco, on my tacos, on my burritos, you know? But when you're like, you're doing extras. Don: Semantics, bro. You're picking and choosing. Brev: Yeah. JRD: I'm not picking and choosing. First of all, this is my Haterade! I can pick and choose! What do you mean? What do you mean? Don: Can. I guess so, I guess you can. JRD: What do you mean? I can pick and choose! It's Haterade! God! Blackbeard ass. Brev: Like steak is good by itself, but it's pretty good with steak sauce too. JRD: So you're telling me if you go to like a nice steak place, gonna be like, hey boss man, hey boss man, you got the 157? Hey boss man, you got the A1 socks? Don: I'm gonna get the I'ma get the hot sauce for Shirley. Go ahead and give me some drink. JRD: That sauce is fine. Brev: I'll take, I always try the steak as by itself first. Always. I do that with wings also. I try the wings by himself before I dip them. Don: Don't get y'all bloody ass steak. JRD: I give my say medium rare for Shroesky. It's not bloody, it's Brev: Medium rare for sure. JRD: real bad flapping. It's not blood, it's real bad flapping. Brev: Yeah, meeting rare. JRD: It's not blood, it's not blood. Don: I'm on mine. Well done. JRD: ill Don: I like my I like my meat cooked thoroughly. JRD: Fun fact, Brev: Alright. JRD: you know why lot of African Americans like their meat cooked well done? It's because when they were slaves, not us, when our ancestors were slaves, they got the scraps of the meat and it was very unsanitary. So it had to be cooked to almost a crisp so it would be palatable for us. And over time, people get taste buds and they're the same thing and their parents are eating the same thing. So that's why a lot of African Americans like their fish fried hard or like they like their steak well done it's because of like you know our ancestors palates. Fun fact. Don: I feel like I I'm obviously I'm black. Brev: I didn't know that was a stereotype. Don: I have a family full of black people. I feel like I'm the JRD: That's not a stereotype. Don: I feel like I'm the only one that eats my steak. Well done. I I'm just I'm just I'm just stating. I'm not like JRD: it's not everyone like that, but the reason why is that... No, no, you're right, you're right, but you're right, 100%. Yeah, but again, when I say it, it's not like every person, there's nothing, there's no absolutes in anything in life almost, damn near. What I'm saying, the reason why is like a constant thing within the black community. Wouldn't you agree in a black community, like wings fried hard, fish fried hard, steak well done, you don't think that's a common theme within a black community, JD? Yeah, I was merely explaining why things happen, you know, it's not by coincidence. Brev: I didn't know that was a thing. JRD: because we're your only black friends. Of course, you know. Half of them do, half of them don't. Brev: You JRD: Come on now Brevin said he refuses to watch the lanterns because John Stewart is the He said that guys was crazy Brev: whoa, did not say I refused to watch it. I should have probably not go watch it. JRD: he say he refuses Don: Why don't you want to watch that shit? Brev: I just, I don't know, I just. Don: Do you not like superheroes? Okay, do you like Green Lantern? Do you like Green Lantern? Brev: I heard it was I saw like some stuff on it though saying JRD: He won Super Gro. He win. Brev: yeah. Don: Okay. JRD: Who's your favorite green lantern? Brev: My favorite Green Lantern, I've only JRD: Yeah. Brev: seen the one with, in the cartoons and then the Ryan Reynolds one. JRD: What's his name? Brev: I don't know. JRD: He lying, he said Hal Jordan is his favorite being lantern, that's what he told me. JD, how are you liking the show? Don: show's tough. JRD: So it's time. Don: I just I'm trying to understand why Brev is adamant on not watching it though. Brev: I'm not. Don: I don't know why this JRD: Okay. Don: guy what why does this guy hate the show so Brev: I don't know where that came from. Don: You're like, I'm I'm I haven't watched it, I probably am not gonna watch it. And you said I've only heard good things. Brev: Yeah, I'm probably not gonna watch it. I'm gonna watch it down the line. Don: But I'm sorry, what's why not watch it now? Brev: I don't know. Same reason I didn't watch Spider-Noir. I like Spider-Man. Don: Actually I all right, I feel you 'cause I didn't watch Fireman anymore. I watched JRD: I didn't finish it. I didn't finish it. Don: I watched the first episode, it was cool and I just never went back to it. And I know it was good, I I heard it's good. Brev: Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of shows that are like that like, shit, that was a episode, but never went back to Don: But this might be like Josh was saying earlier, I think this I don't know about top five, but it's for sure top seven. It's superhero. It's superhero TV show. Live action, yeah. JRD: TV shows? Live action? Live action? Don: It might be top five, actually. It might be top five. JRD: It is. Live action? Don: 'Cause is it better than is it better than Wandavision? Is it better is it better than Wandavision? JRD: off the top of my head the only ones i can think of hmm it has the potential to be Don: Yes or no, from what you've seen, is it better than WandaVision? JRD: It has the potential to be. No, I gotta be honest, 50-50. Don: Bro, why are you why can't you say yes or no? Brev: Which means no, it's not right now. JRD: can fall off. Don: So it's no it's not JRD: No, right now, it's even. Right now, it's down there even. Don: Why why why can you not say yes or no? You're a grown man, can't make a decision. Stop being decisive. Is it better? JRD: Because it's not a yes or no question. I'm not making a description. I'm not being incisive. I am a grown man and you're not gonna box me into answering yes or no when it's not a yes or no question. It can't be- Don: Why can't you answer yes or no? Is it better than one? I'm trying to figure out, you said it's top three, top five. I'm trying to list four or two shows that is better than it or is not better than it to see if it actually fits that. JRD: Okay, I think we're gonna do it. Okay, I get you now. If I have to say, yes is better than it. WandaVision, yes. Don: It's better than Wanavision. JRD: Yes. Don: Okay. Is it better than Loki? Season one and season two. The show Loki. JRD: no. Don: It's not better than Loki. Okay. JRD: I'm not lie. Don: What about Trying to think of another show. is it Burlington Penguin? JRD: No, not Better Than Penguin. Don: Alright, that's already two shows right there. So let me JRD: Yeah, that's it. Don: see. Nah, there's there's gotta be more shows. Brev: Bye Flash. Don: Did you watch you said what? JRD: We're better than Flash. It's better than any CW show. Don: Yeah, I don't I wasn't even gonna bring up CW. What about Harrow? Harrow? JRD: Yeah, that was crazy. Brev: Yeah, Dylan messed with those shows heavy. JRD: Way better than Arrow. Way better than Arrow. That was alright. It gets convoluted after a while. Don: Arrows are just tough. It's better than Mar it's better than Agents of Shield. have you seen Gotham? Brev: times. JRD: I've seen Gotham. Ooh! Gotham was Don: Galton was tough. I think it's better than Galton. JRD: tough. Gotham was tough. But it is better than Gotham. Don: I can't think of any other live action. Brev: Titans. JRD: The clap better than Titans. Don: A hell no. JRD: Better than Titans. Brev: about Peacemaker. Don: Peacemaker. I think I might have peacemaker right now. JRD: Yeah. It's close, but I'm gonna do a Talanters. Don: Actually I'm like JRD: I'll get the lanterns. Don: It's actually tough, bro. I would say Landren's top five though for sure. JRD: Yeah, I'm gonna say Lambert's not a And with Peacemaker, he has John Cena. He's kinda cheating, like you know. John Cena's my dog. I watched WDB as a kid, my favorite wrestler. It's like when you ask me did I watch adult? I like yeah come on, how's the Indian growing? I'm gonna get a shot. Brev: You JRD: You know what I'm saying? It's like people. Don: Peacemaker was actually pretty solid though. I did finish season two. JRD: Hmm Brev: I haven't watched season two yet. JRD: I'm watching season 2. He's footballing. Brev: yeah. Week one of the NFL. I a parlay in and that shit did not hit. Don: Are you talking about the parlay you convinced all of us to take? Brev: Yes, I am talking about that one. I'm talking about the Niners, Cowboys, Colts, and Chargers parlay we put in. We went one and three. Don: Tell me the one team that won. I forgot. Yeah, bruh. Brev: Niners showed up, showed out. Don: You guys are the same ones saying I was delusional. 'Cause a couple episodes back I said the Niners are gonna go sixteen to one. And we Brev: They were smart for showing up hella early in Australia. JRD: Yeah, that one has an asterisk on it. Kind of. Don: Who has asterisk? JRD: the win. Don: The wind has an asterisk. Why does the wind have an asterisk? JRD: It was a different country. Don: The Rams play the Rams notoriously played good overseas, bro. What are we talking about? JRD: They play white teams overseas. know, Shanahan is always trying to reinvent the wheel a lot of times. I'm tripping. I'm tripping. What am saying? Not Shanahan. What's his name? The white boy. Don: Yeah, Kyle Shannon. Or you're talking about Shaman Vay? JRD: Sean McVeigh, Sean McVeigh. He's always trying to reinvent the wheel a lot of times, you know. Always trying to do something Brev: Yes. JRD: extra. And it's like him? And I think it's Ben Johnson. Don: They had a they had a an a great old JRD: Exactly. Don: fashioned football ass whooping that game. There's no nothing there's nothing you can say about that. It was a great JRD: and and and it's Ben Johnson the Bears coach Don: Yeah. Brev: Yes. JRD: Like him and also Ben Johnson. They just like they do too much and they hurt their team Like we just like they're too smart for their own good. I feel like Brev: Hmm. Yeah, they're a term for JRD: And cut. Brev: showing up hella, like hella late. JRD: Yeah. Brev: They show up like a day and a half early, if that. JRD: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Brev: That's crazy. Well, the 90s are there for like a week, right? JRD: You know why? Because he... Yeah, it's because you know what he did? He sent scouts like a year ago or like every other year to like test out like the weather and like the grass and all that so like he can be used to it. Like he's doing weird shit. Like bro, just get there a week at your early, practice on the field, call it a day. He's doing it. Brev: Yeah, thank you too much. Don: Get smoked by the Niners on Thursday. JRD: With that being said, good win to the 49ers. I'm not gonna take Brev: Go win. JRD: it away from them, but I'm not gonna be delusional and say, they might go undefeated this year. Don: Who said they're going undefeated this year? JRD: They've- I- My apologies. I'm not gonna say- They're Don: Can we not misquote me? JRD: only gonna lose one game. I'm gonna lose it. Thank you. Don: They're only gonna lose one game. And I said that before the season started. So it's not I'm not r overreacting by saying that again, because I said it a month or two before the season started. We have the best squad. JRD: Good work. Don: Barring injuries, we have the best roster. The second best roster Brev: Damn. Don: is over there in LA and it's not the Chargers. And we just smoked them in the first game of season. So this is just showing that when we go sixteen and one, I'm not the crazy dude with a ten four hat. I'm just a guy that watches the sport, actually. Brev: Hey, what did, speaking of injuries, what did a stripling hurt? Don: Bro, he's out for he might just be out for the season, bro. They say Brev: Yeah. Don: in ten weeks. He's got his Yeah, Brev: Damn. Don: it's cook, bro. Brev: There's no point in rushing him back though. I mean, if he's really that good. He seemed good though. JRD: A of injuries week one. AJ Brown. Don: It's it's been like that, bro. That's a this is such a dangerous sport, Brev: Yeah. Don: bro. JRD: Yeah, AJ bro. Bro, speak it out, speak it out, dangerous. Kyle Murray needs to retire. He has enough money, he's famous enough, he can be a college announcer, he can be an NFL announcer, and he for sure has the injury clause on his contract. He for sure has one. Don: That injury was sick though, bro. JRD: He needs to hang Brev: Yeah. JRD: it up bro. He's got three of them. Three sick, all concussions. Don: What about Brev: That's crazy. Don: did he have more than two of? I feel like two's are worse. Brev: Yeah, two was knocked out cold a couple times, Couple. Don: couple of times bro, the fucking the the game signs. Brev: Yeah, it was ugly for him. JRD: Yeah, it's too us to plan. Brev: Yeah. He would have been, he would have been starting this Don: Yeah, he's on Atlanta. But he got hurt. He didn't play this week. JRD: Atlanta? Brev: week if he didn't like tear his oblique throwing a football in practice. He was just, I think they were throwing on air. It was just like they were throwing the ball. Don: He was out. What's What's up with Michael Penix? Brev: He still heard from last JRD: He's asked. Brev: year. Was this ACL? Don: Yeah, they're saying but they will use it for emergencies. JRD: Again? Brev: Yeah, bro. He tears JRD: Again? Brev: ACA like twice in college, JRD: Yeah, that book ain't no cartilage. Brev: Yeah, his knee might be cooked, honestly. Don: That offense has so many weapons for them not to be having quarterbacks for like the past four years, bro. Brev: Yeah. Don: It's getting annoying as hell, bruh. Brev: Yeah. Yeah, Kirk. Don: I mean, but didn't he get hurt, bro? Brev: Did he? Don: Who? 'Cause they're talking JRD: Wesley's name got hurt the Seahawks quarterback. Brev: Darnold. Don: Kirk Cousins is not on Atlanta. That's that's what I'm like, what? Kirk Cousins on Las Vegas. you're saying in the in that run. Yeah, but that was like Brev: No Kirk cousins, but he played for Atlanta you said the last four years so I'm saying they had him. Yeah Yeah JRD: He's on the laters. He's on the laters. Don: that wasn't the good Kirk though. That was we thought literally the reminiscent of the good current. Brev: I mean, yeah, but Carson Wentz came in though. I mean, I feel like the whole talk with Don: Course no. Brev: the the Vikings was either gonna be JG McCarthy or Kyler Murray, but Carson Wentz their best option. Don: How much did he throw? JRD: Carson Woods is option two. Brev: You threw three touchdowns, right? Don: Three touchdowns and like a hundred and fifty yards. Brev: Yeah, three touchdowns and a In a division game. Don: A comeback win too, right? Brev: Yeah, division game, bro. That was big time. JRD: Come back one, two. Yeah, no. Yeah, no, we are down 12 and third quarter. Brev: Yeah, he didn't turn the ball over, I don't think. So, Don: I don't think so. JRD: I don't Brev: I mean, showed up, out. Don: Who's their running back, bro? 'Cause Jordan Mason's out. Brev: Jordan Mason. Don: Yeah, but he's not playing right now, no? Brev: think he is him and Aaron Jones. Don: I thought he I thought he just got hurt. Brev: No, Jordan Mason and Aaron Jones are their backs. Don: Well, Jordan Mason, I think he just got hurt though recently. Brev: yeah, and then also speaking of back with quarterbacks, Drew Locke came in and won the game too. Don: 'cause he's gonna be out for a minute, bro. Brev: Yeah. Don: Yeah, Jordan Mason got put on IR, bro. Brev: Damn. Don: He to get surgery on his thumb. Brev: Fucking A. shit. Don: Sam Darnold's gonna be out again next week probably. Brev: Oof, only one JRD: Yeah. Brev: to know, so it got a little bit of cushion. JRD: Everyone has cushion, this is week one. Don: What's some what's some overreactions, bro? Brev: Yeah, but lot of some of the weak ones were, you know, division games. JRD: I got an oral reaction. The Patriots will not make the playoffs. Don: Mm. Cause they got the Bills, Brev: playoffs. Don: Dolphins are not good. who else is in that division? Bills, Dolphins, Patriots, Jets. The AFC, bro, you can sneak in there, bro. JRD: Yes, I'm gonna double it down. Patriots will not make it, but the Jets will. Don: Okay. Why why JRD: That's my... Don: are you trolling or why do you think the Jets will make playoffs? You're clipbaiting right now. JRD: Wanna know? Brev: What did they show to make you think that? Don: Yeah. JRD: A win. Don: Gino Smith? Brev: They played against the Titans, bro. Don: Titans are arguably the worst team in the league. Brev: You're bad, bro. Don: Titans are bad and so are we all thought Cardinals gonna be that bad. Your boy came on the show talking mad shit about the Cardinals. Brev: Yeah. Don: And then they came out of one. Smoking on Brev: Fucking right. Don: them charger pack. Brev: Yeah. JRD: I don't know, given their Brev: That was crazy. JRD: schedule, the schedule isn't that hard. Don: Or who? JRD: the jets. Don: Bro, they're not making JRD: Okay. Okay. Brev: I don't think they're gonna make playoffs either. Don: I just don't Who's on like who's just on studs in their defense, bro? They played the fucking they played Titans, bro. I ca I can't they Brev: I played the Titans, bro. Don: played the Titans, bro. I'm trying to like give you some benefit of doubt on that. I mean it's overreaction, so that's a very very Brev: Yeah, for real. Don: big, very big overreaction. Reaching for the moon. JRD: If they be a Green Bay, then what? Don: Next week they play Green Bay. Home or away? JRD: They're They have met life. Don: beat Green Green Bay is also the jury's out on them still too. I'm not I'm not JRD: If you saw Green Bay's defense, buns. Don: convinced with Green Bay though. Brev: Yeah. Don: Like Jordan Love, I feel like he should have been figured it out. He has so many weapons over there too. To throw it. He's not I know, but like JRD: He didn't play bad, that was his defense, he's up 12 and a third quarter. You have a 12 and a third quarter, you should have a sizzle down. 12? Don: He just Jordan Mace Jordan Love is not that guy. JRD: I agree. Don: He's not that guy. Brev: Definitely outside the top 10. Don: What about Bryce Young, bro? Overreaction, Bryce Young is top five passing yard leader this year. Brev: Top five. What do you throw for this week? Don: How far I don't know. He threw a three hundred plus for sure. Brev: Three plus. Let me go like that. Don: No, I'm not I'm not I'm not even writing that. Brev: That's not gonna be funny. Don: Who they play? They played Brev: They played the Bears, bro. Which we need to talk about Don: Bears defense is ass too though. Brev: the Bears, bro. JRD: That's why Don: A JRD: bro, caleb is the fucking truth, bro. I hate to say it Hold on I gotta say that shout out. Mr. Chris. Brev: We were talking about it. Hey, I want to let people know that we're speaking so highly of Caleb on this on this fucking podcast. Don: Super highly Caleb, bro. JRD: Mr. Chris. He's a lawyer right now in chicago He's been saying it since day one He says he's gonna take the Bears to the promised line. And I feel he will play in a Super Bowl before it's all said and done. When? I don't know. But I can see Don: Yeah. JRD: him going to a Super Bowl easy. Don: This year I don't know about I I mean, I remember saying that he's gonna be V P candidate this year. I never I don't know anything about no Super Bowl. No, though. This JRD: Not this, in general, in his career. In his career. Don: year, this year he's playing for the MVP himself. JRD: Welcome. Don: The team, their defense is ass. I don't know if they can play for a Super Bowl. But yeah, the NFC is too stacked too, bro. But Caleb, based off how Caleb Brev: Yeah, they still gave up 37, but I mean, they dropped 59, bro. They dropped 59. JRD: It's not 52. The 9? Don: based off how Caleb was playing in the playoffs last year, bro, I was this he's that's him, bro. JRD: Yeah, Brev: Yeah. JRD: somebody was hating on him. I forgot some announcer or some dude. He like, yeah, Caleb just got lucky. He was throwing up bullshit. were saying, they hated on Caleb. He paints his nails. Brev: What? F will throw dots, bro. Don: Yeah, he was actually clutch. And then in the off season, bro, I also JRD: No, I think it was, yeah, what saying? Well, it is what it is. One of Don: started like l just watching like Caleb like highlight reels, bruh. He Brev: huh. Don: actually might have like one of the best highlight reels too in the in the league right now, bruh. JRD: Yeah. Brev: Definitely. 100%. Don: Cause you know, last especially last year, because you know Lamar was damn near hurt. Brev: for sure. Don: Like who's really like racking up the highlights like that? Caleb Williams is. He's a stud, bro. Showman too. My favorite quarterback in the league. JRD: I think you're armed for Dr. Penis now. Brev: think they're definitely going back to the playoffs. JRD: I'm sure. Brev: I mean, barring injuries, they're going back to the playoffs. Don: Yeah, I think they make playoffs again. Brev: Back to the divisional, at least for sure. JRD: Who is the ha- is them the lions, who else? Brev: Vikings and Packers up there. Don: Vikings and yeah, Packers. JRD: are definitely. One of them is definitely. Yeah, one of them is. The lines Brev: Yeah. Yeah. I think they'll win that division, honestly. Yeah. Don: Yeah. JRD: aren't what they used to be. Don: they're for sure winning that division. JRD: Yeah, the lines aren't what they used to be. Brev: Yeah. Don: Who do Lions play week one? Brev: Yeah. They played the Saints this week. Don: And they went to O T and then the Saints blew JRD: OT Don: it. JRD: CHOTE Brev: The Saints, yeah, the Saints, they won, but the Saints went for two after they tied it up in overtime. Or after Don: Yeah. JRD: Yeah. Brev: they got that touchdown in overtime. Which I Don: It's right. Brev: respect. We're not playing for ties. Playing for wins, it's either win or loss. Don: Tyler show, bro. He's tough. Brev: Yes, I remember the first half of that game I was just like looking at it. I was like this thing take this fool out. Put someone else in. They play through it. Don: Let him play through it, bruh. 'Cause he played a little bit last year, right? JRD: Who? Don: Like towards the end of the season, Tyler. Brev: Yeah, he was playing last year. Don: Like towards the end of the season. I don't know if he definitely didn't play the full season. Brev: No, not the full season, I want to say he's there mid-season now. I could be wrong, Don: Probably mid to late season. Brev: Yeah. Don: And I I don't I think he had like Spurs. I don't remember bro. I just remember he w I don't know. Who's their other quarterback? Do they have anybody else? Brev: Spencer Rattler. JRD: I like Spencer Radler. I remember when I was a kid that nigga was on TV. I remember his called Little Taxi or some shit. And he's funny to me. He's funny to me, bro. He was talking shit too. not sure. Brev: They're talking mad shit to their teammates, bro. JRD: Yeah, when he was a kid. He's funny as fuck, bro. Yeah. Brev: That's it. What about your Cowboys, Josh? How do you feel about that game? JRD: next segment. Brev: I feel that. vision game too, bruh. JRD: Next segment. Don: Bro, that's crazy. When are you guys ever gonna JRD: Bro, it is hard. Don: like be good? You were the Chargers. Like you guys every offseason, you guys like, we look good. We're polished. We're good. No, you're you guys JRD: Don't compare us to the fucking chargers. Don't compare us to the fucking chargers. Don: are doing the same thing with different sides of the the league, bro. You guys are have these polished teams. JRD: When's the last time that Charger's played in a playoff game? Don: It don't matter. You guys always Brev: last year. Don: have these expectations constantly. You guys are ass. Both JRD: Really last year? damn. It was really nice. It was really nice. Brev: Yeah. Yeah. Don: both sides, bro. I'm a big Dax Prescott supporter, bro. I like T D. Lamb. I like George Pickens, bro. Brev: Yeah, dude the giants. JRD: I think Jerry Jones has to die. I Brev: That's crazy. JRD: think, I think he made some bets to get those shit in the 90s. I don't know. I don't know. I think the year Don: That's actually crazy. JRD: he lies, we might go undefeated and win a Super Bowl. Brev: my god. JRD: What a patch, a Jerry Jones patch on the jerseys. Don: Like the Al Davis. Brev: Heh heh. Don: They didn't do shit with that though. Wasn't Al Davis a terrible man? I can't I don't remember. For the Raiders. Brev: I don't know, just win, baby, win. JRD: I know he had beef with with Vince Young. I can't see any clips about that, like he didn't want Vince Young or whatever. Don: I can't remember. I just remember growing up like thinking that he was a d bad dude. Maybe because I just hated the Raiders growing up, but I was like, I don't know. He just looks Brev: I don't know. Don: slimy. So does Jerry Jones. So did David Stern. So did what's homie on the Clippers? the one I told his girlfriend is to stop bringing the black black Yeah, Sterling. Donald Sterling, yeah. Donald Sterling. JRD: He said no, that was it Donald's stung Donald's stung Donald's stung. Brev: Boom. host early donald ronald Don: there's another one. Who's another NBA owner that was a fucking racist piece of shit? publicly. Damn, it was one more team, Brev: don't know. Publicly? Don: bro. I wanna say the the Phoenix Suns, but I don't think so. the one with the JRD: Look at that real quick. Bare wood. Brev: I don't know who you're talking about honestly. Don: You don't? Brev: Nah. Don: There's for sure it was another person. They but they got they got like banned for Brev: I'm there's a few of them, bruh. Don: like two. Brev: for real. Don: I just can't remember what he said. JRD: gonna look it up. Don: it was the sign, Robert Server. JRD: Promise this is over, yeah. Don: An independent investigation found that Robert Serving, longtime owner of the Phoenix Suns in Mercury, had engaged in a history of racist, misogynistic workplace conduct, including repeatedly using the N word. What the Brev: Damn, bruh. JRD: All it was suspended for a year and a half, like 10 million. Is he still the owner? Don: That's kinda crazy. That's it? JRD: Yeah. Man, what's his name that done Don: I think JRD: worse? Don: he had to sell the teams though. I mean I'm pretty sure they made him sell the teams. Server. That happened in twenty twenty two. They went to the championship the year before that. JRD: What is it with Chris Spar always Brev: That's crazy. JRD: getting racist owners? Don: Low key, huh? Brev: I know. Don: And you would think like Chris Paul is like the complete opposite person that would play for someone like that. JRD: Yeah. Brev: Heh. That's just funny as fuck. This fool got the shitty endstick. Don: Yeah, no ring, bro. He should have played. JRD: Clippers that I'm dirty. Brev: No ring, bruh. for sure. Yeah. You're cut this man, JRD: Yeah, you gotta let him have his Brev: I think the clippers are cursed. Don: Clippers got that San Diego Chargers stench, bro. Brev: Curse bro, yeah. JRD: I'm from San Diego, bro. The host... Yeah, anything from San Diego's cursed. Brev: Yeah. JRD: The Padres, too. Brev: Yeah, we can't go wrong, we'll go wrong. JRD: Yeah, if the cowboys are cursed too, it's okay. Don: Imagine being a Chargers fan, bro. Like you kinda get a glimpse of it as being a Cowboys fan. But at least like Nah. Yours might be worse. JRD: Nah. Nah. At least like, as a Cowboys fan, I have like, we have a community. Don: History? JRD: We have a community. A lot of us. Don: Charger I know way more Charter fans that than I know Cowboy fans. JRD: Okay. Don: I feel like Chargers might be the second most fans that I know of. Like I obviously I don't know. JRD: Do you know how statistics work? Brev: Chargers got loyal fans, bro. The Chargers have loyal fans. JRD: Do you know how statistics work? They do. If they had loyal fans, they wouldn't have went on to leave San Diego. They don't have loyal fans. They don't, yes. And A's and the Cowboys, Don: Well, they didn't have enough loyal fans in San Diego, but they have loyal fans. Brev: Yeah. JRD: yes, A's and they have, but you said that when I brought up the Cowboys, every sports team has loyal fans. But like, I can't believe you're talking about loyal fans between the Dallas Cowboys, the richest franchise in the world. Not in NFL, not in America, in the world. On God's green earth. The Dallas Cowboys. Don: What about that? JRD: What do you mean by that? So like, of course our fan base is the strongest. You can say like, LARP or you don't know. Fan base? Okay, whatever bro. Yeah. Don: Fan base is not the strongest. Your fan base is not the strongest fan base. Brev: Strongest? What do you mean by strongest though? JRD: Most loyal, biggest numbers. Brev: Most loyal? Don: D do the Cowboys even have the most fans? I don't even think that's true either, bro. JRD: Yes, Don: Didn't we do the freaking Instagram look up and the cowboys they didn't JRD: Yes, and Cowboys had more than any other team and I feel even using that is kind of like not how you do statistics because Everyone doesn't use Instagram Brev: a lot of them aren't real football fans. JRD: I said that I gave that to you I gave that to you No, it does not it does not I feel if you don't Don: But a lot of it has things, Brev: So that's a knock on them. On the fans, yes. JRD: know about something and you're a fan of it that Makes you stronger in my opinion more loyal How you a fan of something you are nothing about Brev: I would say JRD: That means you're going to have to fall. Brev: Raider fans are stronger and more loyal. JRD: No, this is even more aggressive and violent. That's the only thing, they're more aggressive and violent. Don: I don't know, when I hear like loyal fans, I don't think Cowboys. I think like Green Bay Steelers Brev: Yeah. Don: and like Brev: Yeah. JRD: Go to Texas. Don: I mean we can go to Texas, but JRD: Walk around bro, like come on like I think you're kinda trolling me at this point. Like... Don: You think you think the Cowboys got Brev: No. Don: more fans than Philadelphia? JRD: Yeah. Yeah. Brev: I'm real fan, JRD: What is Don: And I JRD: your definition of real fans? Brev: Like they're not just because of the most popular big market team that they're fan of that team, bro. Like they're a fan of football and they want to see them succeed. JRD: I think you're nitpicking and you're giving a smart mind new definition. Brev: Why? Isn't that what fandom is? JRD: I think a fandom is when you support a team and you want them to win. That's it. You added a whole bunch of, you gotta be a fan on Tuesday, Thursday, you gotta, nah, Don: I looked up I looked up I looked up this largest NFL fan bases this ranking all thirty-two fan bases from the largest to smallest and this is from Bro Bible. I'm not saying this has any legitimacy, it's just the first thing that popped up and I just clicked it. Number one, they got New England Patriots at ten mil. JRD: Okay. Don: And then I guess they're accounting for the YouTube followers, the Twitter followers and Instagram followers all added up. And then the Cowboys are number two. I'm just I'm just not saying this isn't true or no. I'm just bringing it up and look. JRD: No, I get that yet. No, They just put number one because Tom Brady, they were good for like what? 20 years? 20 years? Don: Yeah. Brev: Yeah, but I'm telling JRD: Did we go to a game in Boston, JD? Brev: you. Don: Yeah, we went to the worst probably the worst football game to ever go to in person. JRD: No touchdowns, right? Don: No touchdowns, it was twelve nine against the Chargers, bruh. JRD: Yeah. Don: And we were literally blacked out the night before. JRD: I think it was raining. Remember it was raining when I was taking? We could have slept in. It was a mission. Mission getting there too. Like so hard. Brev: Y'all can slap down Don: And it was raining too, bro. Like, my gosh, bro. We woke up and had beer for breakfast. Michigan Brev: Nothing wrong with that. Don: there. Nothing wrong with that, but it's like you wanna be enjoying your time. JRD: Yeah. Don: Like I enjoy just being there 'cause I like being in different places. So like just being JRD: Mm-hmm. Don: there was good in itself. But like JRD: It was the least fun part. Don: the least fun part was watching nothing on the field for JRD: Yeah, yeah Don: What, three hours? Legit nothing. Punts, punts, punts. No big plays. JRD: And I hate to it Yeah, one field goal before I think was like three zero the first half Don: Yeah, it was just bad football. my god. And we went to the we went to the Boston game, the Celtics game, like maybe the night before two nights before. JRD: I gotta say it as a Lakers fan. I hate to say this fire experience. TD was fun as fuck. TD was fun as fuck. The Don: That shit was fun, huh? Yeah. All the lit. Lit atmosphere, bro. JRD: atmosphere as in to go to the bar right across afterwards. Man. Man. Don: Yeah. Crazy. I that's why I like to go into these different games, bro. I feel like I'm hella biased obviously, but that's obviously the best atmosphere I've been into out of all the NBA games I've been to. But like I haven't been to like a Laker game in at their stadium. I mean I guess the only other big market team I went to was Golden State. I mean I went to a Knicks game. That atmosphere is pretty cool too. But it wasn't touching the T D one. Brev: Madison Square JRD: I don't know. Brev: wasn't touched at TD Garden. Don: Well, I JRD: I Don: I'm also biased, bro. JRD: I think it's because, again, I hate to say this about the Celtics. It felt like people watching the game actually enjoyed basketball. I feel like Don: Yeah. JRD: a lot of Lakers games, a lot of Warriors games, because it's in California and it's in New Don: Next game's also. JRD: York as well. New York, one of the greatest, most famous cities of all time. Silicon Valley LA is LA, you know City of Angels Lake show like that people try to go stunt. It's like The games are reason the games people don't go to the games that goes to the game It's like an excuse. It's like dress up an excuse to flex an excuse. It's not the main thing Don: Yeah. But when people go to the game and T D D, you can tell that it's like from the the time they woke up that day, that was all they were thinking about. JRD: Yeah, like I understand why they were burning crosses on people's on people's loss when they lost they really cared Don: All right, bro, that's a whole different generation of people. Brev: That's, hey, but that's probably what the Cowboys fans are. They show up to Cowboys game just to go to that stadium, right? AT &T. Yes, bro. JRD: What No, no, I went to a cowboys game when the Cowboys lost against the Cardinals the whole city was sad It was crazy. Like you could feel it a spare in the air. See, you Brevin, like... Brev: Did not used to it yet. JRD: No, Brevin... I don't think, like, when you say things like that, it makes me believe you just say stuff to say it, and you have no thought behind it. You're saying... Brev: What do mean? JRD: Texas and football. You're saying... Regardless of who thinks better, you're saying the number one team in Texas, people are just going to the games as an excuse? No, bro. Brev: Listen, they're they're considered I get it. They're considered America's team, but that's what I'm saying there I know I I'm saying America's team JRD: I didn't say America's team, I said the number one team in Texas. Texas is a football state. Don: Texas is a big football state. JRD: Texas is a big football state. Like come on, that was crazy. Brev: Yes, I get it. Texas is, yes, probably the biggest football state. JRD: Exactly, and you're telling me we're going to the game just to flex? Don: It is the biggest. Not the best. The biggest. Brev: Yes. JRD: Yeah, the biggest. Don: The best football state is California. JRD: Amen to that, is. Brev: AT &T, remember when AT &T opened up? It was like the biggest thing in America, bro, when that shit opened up. JRD: Yeah, Don: Hey, A T T JRD: the first one to open and close, the first one to open and close. In America maybe, Don: I don't know if that's true. Is that true? JRD: I think in America. Brev: When the AT &T come out. Don: I feel like I've seen that before, bro. JRD: nine america i think it is he was a complete well maybe Don: Nah, E. C. Two's not that old. Is it that old? JRD: Yeah. Brev: No, had to be before that. Don: Open and closed. Brev: If it's the first one to open, it has to be before that because Lucas Oil opened before that. Yeah. And that one opens close. Don: I'm gonna say I Lucas Oil for sure came out way before AT P though. You been in Lucas? JRD: AT &T over the 09. Don: No way. Look up Lucas Oil. JRD: I need to open it online. Brev: I want to say Lucas Oil is like 08. Let's go 08. Don: ATT is 09? That shit hello. And Levi came in like what, 2013, 14? Not a fan of Levi like that though. I miss JRD: 2008 you're right But Oil Stadium closes? Brev: It opens and closes. JRD: when it was built. Brev: Yeah. Don: Yeah, regardless. I like I said, I think the atmosphere of these stadiums. That's why I wanna go to every stadium, bro. I gotta experience it. I feel like New York New York was solid though. What I haven't I didn't go when when they were like championship contenders though. They were like still playoff team. But I bet now it's even amazing, that atmosphere. Brev: Wait, so wait, just to JRD: Yeah, it is. Brev: back up, when you guys were talking about Madison Square Garden, that's when you guys said that people just go there to flex? JRD: Yeah. Don: For lower lower decks. Not not the higher you go. But those tickets are so expensive, bro. You're not really JRD: Yeah. Yeah. Don: getting a normal New York fan, bro. JRD: Yeah. And like you understand, when they call the mega the basketball, they're referring to playing there. The court, all that's a play. Don: But I feel like the I was in nosebleeds when I not both times. First time I went there I was in nosebleeds. The fans around me were like legitimate New York fans, you know what I mean? You can just get outta here, I'm walking here JRD: How many times have you been in New York? Don: Like three times. But I went to two games. The second game, we had bought nosebleeds, but then we snuck down to the a hundred section and then people seemed pretty normal. Like I feel JRD: Cause they all slug Don: No, I mean like they didn't seem like like the diehard crazy New York fans you always see. You know what I JRD: okay. Don: mean? 'Cause they were priced out, bro. Those people aren't at the end, bro. JRD: Yeah, they all can't be. What's his name? White boy. White boy of the year. Brev: Ha Don: Timothy? JRD: Yeah. Don: I knew you're that's your favorite white boy. Brev: I will say I do want to go to AT &T Stadium for sure. Yeah, 100%. Don: Me too, a hundred percent. JRD: It's amazing. It has a little like Don: I wanna go see JRD: bar thing right across from it. Brev: Yeah, Don: Mm. JRD: like stores and Brev: where the players walk out of the tunnel, it's like where all the fans are too, right? Yeah, JRD: Yeah. Brev: it's just dope. Don: I think the best baseball stadium I went to is the atmosphere wise is definitely Peko. But I haven't been to any. That shit was a little done. Brev: Peko solid, JRD: Pekka was fire. I don't remember a lot about the SD trip, but I remember Pekka. Don: PECA. Right across from the gas lamp. Brev: FEC is fire, bro. Don: That the setup is like amazing. I ain't gonna JRD: Yeah, yeah, looking a blur. Don: lie. Yeah, S D was a blur. That was the only time I've ever been to S D too. That's actually crazy. JRD: Yeah, I've been a few before that. It's down the street from me, low key. All right, should we go into the heck it or we, we're just talking now. Don: We knew how can we wait? Brev: Go hack of the week. JRD: My hack of the week is... If you believe you can do something, you can do it. That's it. That's all I gotta say. If you believe you can do something, you can do it. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Brev: What if I said I believe I could fly? JRD: You can fly. It's called planes. You can do it. Don: You're just saying that because the NFL season started and your team isn't playing like your team usually does and you believe that they're gonna be good this year, so you wanna have more hope. But it's all just false hope. The Cowboys are not gonna be good this year, I'm sorry, bro. JRD: You believe? Don: Ha ha. Brev: Hahaha! Don: Shadow Believing. Brev: I don't believe it. Believe. Word to Ted Lasso. JRD: Yeah.