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Bottoms Up · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown. I'm Brian. I'm Phillip.
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  Speaker 1: And we're coming to you live via digital recording from
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  Speaker 1: a very strange high school. That is the Oddity Studios,
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  Speaker 1: but more on that later. normally when it's you and
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  Speaker 1: I there'll be some third weirdo here and we yammer
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  Speaker 1: on about horror movies and that didn't come together this
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  Speaker 1: time around we were planning it and then that didn't
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  Speaker 1: happen and we were planning an alternate thing and that
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  Speaker 1: didn't happen so I don't know this is how things
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  Speaker 1: go in the real world trying to put things together
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  Speaker 1: is one of the biggest hurdles in making this show
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  Speaker 1: is just getting people together in the same place at
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  Speaker 1: the same time so First of all, thank you for
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  Speaker 1: being here.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: But it also leads to weird scenarios when we're like, well, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we don't want to do that. That Nora person's off
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  Speaker 1: having a fabulous vacation. So we can be annoyed at
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  Speaker 1: her for that reason. Oh, I am.
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  Speaker 2: But that's... But I'm more annoyed that our backup plan
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  Speaker 2: fell through.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that one we're still... I won't even... We won't
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  Speaker 1: reveal it yet because we still kind of want to
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  Speaker 1: make it happen later.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I need that to happen.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll put that.
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  Speaker 2: On the back burner.
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  Speaker 1: But... But then we were left with, well, now what
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  Speaker 1: the hell do we do? So I was like, all right,
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  Speaker 1: it's so commonplace now that all we talk about is horror.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, let's not do horror. And that'll be weird.
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  Speaker 1: It'll just be a weird offshoot of a normal episode
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  Speaker 1: if anything on this show is ever normal.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: Those quotes don't get used much around here. Right. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for once, we don't necessarily have to talk about anything creepy.
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  Speaker 1: So is there any non-creepy things that you've done or seen?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, non-creepy? No. I'm trying to think. I did watch...
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  Speaker 2: I watched an enjoyable movie last weekend and I can't even...
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I re-watched Mad Max Fury Road.
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  Speaker 1: Nice. So.
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  Speaker 1: It's almost overwhelming. Oh, yeah. Like, I remember recently going, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I want to watch that again because it was so good. And, like,
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  Speaker 1: I got into it about 15 minutes. I'm like, Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: It's just so nonstop and just in your face.
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  Speaker 2: I watched it on a screen that was larger than
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  Speaker 2: a TV, not as big as a movie theater, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm getting queasy here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a lot to deal with. I love it, but, man,
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  Speaker 1: I forget until I'm into it again. I'm like, this
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  Speaker 1: is just so Non-stop craziness.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Well, mine.
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of glad this happened the way it did
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  Speaker 1: because I finished and I was like, man, I really
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about this. Except it's not technically horror,
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  Speaker 1: so I guess I can't talk about it on the
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  Speaker 1: next episode. I mean, as much as I straddle that
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  Speaker 1: line anyway every episode, but I was like, this definitely...
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  Speaker 1: And then as I went into it today, I was like, well, good.
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  Speaker 1: Now I can talk about it. And I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people will probably still consider
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  Speaker 1: this creepy. And the fact I almost posted something about
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  Speaker 1: it because I finished the weekend and I was like, huh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, most people would be weirded out that I
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  Speaker 1: just watched Head twice this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the monkeys.
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  Speaker 1: The monkeys. Yeah. Again, sounds like I'm watching porn. But no,
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  Speaker 1: it actually was the monkeys full length feature show. Very
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  Speaker 1: different offshoot type of thing than the show.
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  Speaker 2: I'm impressed you sat through it not just once, but twice.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 2: Because it is a struggle bus of a movie.
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  Speaker 1: See? It's weird. And that's the thing. This is how...
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  Speaker 1: Because it's weird that I'd never seen it because it
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  Speaker 1: was presented to me years ago. And it was like...
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  Speaker 1: I was familiar enough with the show at the time.
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  Speaker 1: I can get back to that later. But the way
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  Speaker 1: it was presented to me, this guy I used to
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  Speaker 1: work with, and like... we watched a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: same stuff and he brought up that he like, he's like, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: have you seen it? And he's like, well, let me
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  Speaker 1: just put it into perspective how it's not the show.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that footage of that guy getting shot in
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  Speaker 1: the head. Well, it's in it a whole lot.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember that.
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  Speaker 1: It's the, like the shot from Vietnam.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's the thing. As he said it, it came
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  Speaker 1: to my mind. It's one of those images that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: really leave once it's in your head. Once you've seen
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  Speaker 1: that image, you're like, Ooh, yep, that's real. So it,
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  Speaker 1: It is one of those scenes because they do that
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  Speaker 1: weird like split screen because it was the 70s and
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  Speaker 1: they were really thrilled with that. But it does it
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  Speaker 1: like it breaks it down into like 30 images on
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  Speaker 1: the screen. And the last one it goes one, two, three.
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  Speaker 1: And it does it like 29 times in front of
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  Speaker 1: your face of that guy getting shot in the head.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, this is not what they were
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  Speaker 1: putting on the TV show.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 1: So I wanted to get around to watching it anyway
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  Speaker 1: because I had that presented to me so many years ago.
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  Speaker 1: And then still, I was like, why haven't I seen it?
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  Speaker 1: Just for movie dork completist, you know. Plus, I genuinely
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  Speaker 1: like the monkeys.
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  Speaker 2: I enjoy the monkeys.
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  Speaker 1: The monkeys get a lot of shit. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they're as solid a band as anybody at
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  Speaker 1: that time. And people like to call them out for
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  Speaker 1: not being a real band. I was like, half of
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  Speaker 1: the band were legit musicians that had been working their
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  Speaker 1: whole life up until then. Yeah, the other half were actors.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm not pretending that they weren't put together for
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  Speaker 1: this very specific purpose.
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  Speaker 2: They were.
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  Speaker 1: They were. But, you know, half of them were genuine, like,
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  Speaker 1: songwriters and, like, trained musicians. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and they had, their songwriting team was incredible because
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  Speaker 2: you had, like, Carole King and Neil Diamond and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of other big acts.
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  Speaker 1: Even at the time, like, as I said, my show, like,
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  Speaker 1: I was right at the right, I wasn't there the
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  Speaker 1: first time, obviously. I'm old, but I'm not that old.
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  Speaker 1: But I was right at that, I recently gave credit
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  Speaker 1: to MTV, and I'm like, For so many reasons. In
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  Speaker 1: that 15 to 20 year span, MTV did so many
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  Speaker 1: things that massively changed the industry. Oh, yeah. And one
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  Speaker 1: of the, like, I guess lesser ones was just bringing
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  Speaker 1: back the Monkees TV show. And, like, they played it
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  Speaker 1: on MTV. Eventually, it got rolled over to VH1. But, like, initially,
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  Speaker 1: they put it on, like, this is, like, one of
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  Speaker 1: our primetime shows. Yeah. Like, you know, they were just, like.
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  Speaker 1: We got rights to this. We own Nickelodeon and Nick
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  Speaker 1: at Night and whatever the hell else we want to run.
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  Speaker 1: And they picked The Monkees because it kind of fit
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  Speaker 1: them as far as attitude and music. So they started
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  Speaker 1: running it like a regular show. And I watched those
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  Speaker 1: episodes and was like, this is a hell of a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: It is a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: And it was interesting that it worked in a music
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  Speaker 1: video every episode. When there wasn't a music video channel,
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  Speaker 1: it more than... was ahead of that wave of, you know,
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  Speaker 1: on MTV many, many years later, but like it was
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  Speaker 1: doing that in the late sixties. So like, that's really
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  Speaker 1: ahead of its time for that scale of, of just
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  Speaker 1: every week. And it wasn't just a song performance. It
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  Speaker 1: was cut into a music video essentially at the end
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  Speaker 1: of every episode. So that, I don't know, like I
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  Speaker 1: was always kind of impressed with how ahead of the
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  Speaker 1: curve it was from that angle. but also how just
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  Speaker 1: weird and bizarre.
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  Speaker 2: Their shit was. It was the first sitcom, I found
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  Speaker 2: this out recently, first sitcom to use a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the camera techniques that are now cliche in TV, but
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  Speaker 2: it was never seen before on TV.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and they always had, which no surprise on this,
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  Speaker 1: especially if you listen to our other episodes, To me,
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: as I watch it now, I'm like, it's just kind
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  Speaker 1: of like live action Scooby-Doo.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes they're solving mysteries. That's give or take. But it's
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  Speaker 1: so silly and they get into these crazy adventures that's
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  Speaker 1: almost like an animated cartoon type of wacky show. But
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: they brought in live actors to do it. But that's
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  Speaker 1: the thing. Even as a kid watching it that first time,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like... mike is cool oh yeah and i was
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  Speaker 1: like he was just so like deadpan and like he
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  Speaker 1: was ahead of all the jokes and like everybody else
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  Speaker 1: got to be the dumb characters but usually it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: mike mike was always kind of like the the one
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  Speaker 1: making the weird comments along the way and being a
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  Speaker 1: smart ass so it's like i always liked him and
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  Speaker 1: then moving forward now when i started listening to their
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  Speaker 1: music again i'm like he was the songwriter like he
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  Speaker 1: was writing songs before he even got involved with the
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  Speaker 1: monkeys and like Some of their best stuff, I feel like,
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  Speaker 1: is written by him. So, yeah, I always give him
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  Speaker 1: credit as a songwriter. Peter could play every freaking instrument.
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  Speaker 1: He was a classically trained musician.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they put out an album in 67 called Headquarters,
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  Speaker 2: which was they had to fight to be allowed, number one,
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  Speaker 2: to perform on it, and number two, to put their
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  Speaker 2: own songs on it. And it is.
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  Speaker 2: Amazingly good. Like, if I didn't know who the Monkees
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  Speaker 2: were and somebody put it on for me, I would
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  Speaker 2: be like, this is just a good record. And it
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  Speaker 2: was the number two record of the year. It was
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  Speaker 2: only knocked off the charts by Sgt. Pepper.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Which, again, like, when you're... fighting against the Beatles
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  Speaker 1: in their peak area and like kind of holding their
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  Speaker 1: own for something that people still treated like a joke.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like something that wasn't real, which again, they initially weren't,
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  Speaker 1: but they became a band whether they liked it or not.
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  Speaker 1: Like they were just along the way. They're like, well,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to put out these albums anyway. So too bad.
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  Speaker 1: Like if you guys want to tour, that's up to you.
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  Speaker 1: And even then they barely got a chance to. So
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  Speaker 1: that was movie to the movie. Like that is, I
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: was so... And still, there's so many other weird, crazy
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: nonsense things that go on in that movie. But pretty
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: early on, you get that live performance of Circle Sky.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Which is, again, written by Mike. And it is so good.
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  Speaker 2: It is not typical Monkees.
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  Speaker 1: no and even it's just like it's a solid rock song.
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  Speaker 2: Even the opening song that porpoise song is not what
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  Speaker 2: you expect from.
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  Speaker 1: It's weird but it's yeah it's not the rocker but
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  Speaker 1: no circle sky is so good and like if you're
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  Speaker 1: watching that and then that's what brought me back around
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  Speaker 1: to the second time because i i ended up finding
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: a copy of it and it was one of the
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: ones that had commentary and then i looked through it
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  Speaker 1: and i was like wait it rattled off all of
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  Speaker 1: It was commentary with all four of the monkeys.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, well, so once I got into it,
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  Speaker 1: it's not like they were all in the same room
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  Speaker 1: watching it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They went to each one individually. They all did commentary,
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  Speaker 1: and they cut it all together. So you get, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: the most interesting comments and stories along the way, but
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  Speaker 1: from all four of them. So I'm like, I kind
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  Speaker 1: of want to hear that. Maybe more than watching the movie.
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  Speaker 1: After I'd already gone through the movie, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: and truthfully, it is arguably even more fun to watch
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  Speaker 1: it and just sort of hear them go, well, here's
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  Speaker 1: what was going on with this. And like, and, and
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  Speaker 1: Mike more than all of them is kind of like,
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  Speaker 1: he's the most grown up about it. Like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he like really came around once he like got out
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  Speaker 1: of monkey business and literally he left the whole band
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  Speaker 1: behind for a long time and like just got into
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  Speaker 1: producing and was like doing tons of other stuff. And
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  Speaker 1: like listening to him tell stories of like, Because he
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: also kind of came off like a jerk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: When you see, like, when they show those behind-the-scenes stuff
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  Speaker 1: of just him being him, he was always kind of
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: a dick to the, like, people running the camera and
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: the guys that are, like, talking to him off-screen. There
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  Speaker 1: was always stuff that I'm like, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you want to hang out with Mike. And it's funny,
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  Speaker 1: listening to him tell stories, he's like, he didn't know. Like,
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  Speaker 1: he was such, still, like, kind of a dumb kid
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  Speaker 1: coming into the industry. So he's like, half of these
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  Speaker 1: stories is like, yeah, I didn't know what was going on.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, so... Listening to him be the grown
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  Speaker 1: up and like call himself out for like he was
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  Speaker 1: kind of being an asshole because he was covering for
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  Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't know what the hell was
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  Speaker 1: going on. Like he was still a dumb kid and
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  Speaker 1: his way to overcompensate was just be like, screw you guys.
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  Speaker 2: So I can see that.
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  Speaker 1: That's way more interesting. But all of them had really
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  Speaker 1: cool stuff to say. But back to Circle Sky, he said,
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  Speaker 1: this is probably the best we ever were, like as
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  Speaker 1: a band, because half the time, again, in studio, they're
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  Speaker 1: bringing other people to play instruments half the time. Then
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  Speaker 1: once you go out on them on tour, like they
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  Speaker 1: barely ever had a chance to rehearse, he said, because
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: it was so constant and they were still shooting the
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  Speaker 1: show half the time. So it's like they really didn't
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  Speaker 1: even get a chance to rehearse and be good. They
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  Speaker 1: just went out there and would wing it and try
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  Speaker 1: to make the best of it they could. But he
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: said when they shot the movie, again, I guess you
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: have more budget by that time. They were also out
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  Speaker 1: of the shooting schedule of the show.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, I think the show had
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: been canceled for a year or so.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was already kind of done. And then on
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  Speaker 1: top of that, the director was just like, we can't
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  Speaker 1: do it any other way. You have to go in
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  Speaker 1: and we want to shoot this for real as a concert.
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  Speaker 1: And they were like, well, if we're going to do that,
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  Speaker 1: we need to get on this song. So they rehearsed
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  Speaker 1: the hell out of that song. So what you get
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  Speaker 1: is literally the live version of them playing that song.
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  Speaker 1: And it's better. Like, I went back this last week.
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  Speaker 1: I listened to the soundtrack album in the studio, and
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: it's just not as energetic. It's, like, way more low-key.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, that kind of ruins the spirit of
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  Speaker 1: the song. It's so cool in.
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  Speaker 2: The live version.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I don't know. That won me over at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning. And then as it goes on, it's the weirdest.
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  Speaker 2: It's so weird.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: It's so weird. But, I mean, I guess as it...
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to compare it. I'm like, it's not
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: the fun goofiness of the show, but it's equally as random.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like, it is the most weird segmented thing.
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  Speaker 1: And every five minutes it becomes another thing. And like,
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  Speaker 1: it barely follows any real, again, the only through line
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: is the fact that they constantly break that fourth wall
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  Speaker 1: and they're like, hey guys, we're shooting a movie. And
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: they walk through the background of a set and they'll
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: see you out on the studio. So the real world
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: is the only real through line of them like, hey,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: we're making this weird movie. But there's so many weird
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: bits that I'm just like, I don't even know what
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  Speaker 1: you guys are going for. Right.
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  Speaker 2: With some of that, I'm like, some of it, it's
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  Speaker 2: pretty obvious because it's like, okay, you're making commentary on
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  Speaker 2: how you were treated and how you were perceived. And
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: then some of it, it's like, okay, this is a
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  Speaker 2: commentary on Vietnam. Okay, I'm down with that. And then
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: some of it, I'm like, I don't know what you're
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: talking about here.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Again, I think they were just, they were kind of
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: a weird artsy type of project anyway. So I think
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: sometimes it was just, this is avant-garde. We're being weird.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: Especially then once you find out who wrote it and
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: was producing it. Yeah. If you're not familiar with it,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: it was written, well, co-written by And I think produced.
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  Speaker 1: And really the only reason I feel like that movie
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  Speaker 1: got made was Jack Nicholson. Yeah. A very young Jack
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  Speaker 1: Nicholson is behind the movie head.
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  Speaker 2: Was it before or after Easy Rider?
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  Speaker 1: This is the thing I realized. Because one of those bits,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how well you remember it if you've
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: been a while. But in the one where they're doing
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: like the war scene, which again, I guess weird Vietnam commentary.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: But like. Mickey doesn't want to wear a helmet. And
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: then the other guy goes and gets the football helmet
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: off a guy. And it's a big gold ridiculous looking
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: football helmet. I'm like, that's the whole bit from Jack
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Nicholson in Easy Rider. It's him wearing that gold helmet.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, is it the same helmet? It has
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: to be like its own inside joke, if nothing else.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: But I was like, is it even the same helmet?
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Because it kind of looks like it actually. So then
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, which was first? So technically... Easy
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Rider came out after Head, but they had to be
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: shooting it exactly... Because I was looking at the shooting schedule.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is at the same time. So, like,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Jack must have been, like, over here making Head and
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: then would go shoot his scenes around that same time.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: So much so that when they do one of those
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: break the scene and... At one point, Peter's like, oh,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think I should do that. And he starts talking.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: And the director comes in. One of the people walking
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: by is Dennis Hopper. Dennis Hopper. Oh, Dennis Hopper's in
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: it too? Yeah. Because I know you see Jack Nicholson
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: for like a second. And he starts talking. But you
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: almost have to slow it down. Again, I didn't even
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: notice it the first time. In the commentary, they're like,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: there goes Dennis Hopper. And I was like, oh, shit,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: I backed up. He's in the freaking costume from Easy Rider.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: So they had to be shooting simultaneously, basically. and just
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: heading over there when they needed to do head stuff.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, but yeah, it is weird. Once
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: you overlay that on top of it and whatever weird
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: commentary young Jack Nicholson wanted to be putting into this.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: So like that comes into play. Very strange.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: Very, very strange.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: But I will say it's, it's worth the commentary. The
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: commentary is pretty interesting because again, they're all much older
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: by the time they got around to doing this version
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: of the commentary track. So, You get a lot more
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: reflection on it. If it would have been at the time,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: it probably would have been just a bunch of four
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: goofballs being like, I remember when we shot this scene.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: But they have a lot more of reflectiveness of their
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: whole career and what was going on with this movie
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: and what it means compared to now. So yeah, it's
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: pretty interesting.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: It's one of those movies that I would recommend. It's
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: not for everybody.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: It's definitely not for everybody.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I would recommend it to movie geeks and music geeks everywhere.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Just to say that I have seen this now.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: That was kind of why I wanted it. Again, as
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: much as I like the band, I still was like,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I think more for the experience, I need to go
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: ahead and check this off my list as a geek.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely glad I've seen it, but even more so, yeah,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I think the commentary track was way more interesting than
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: the movie.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I first became aware of it, I think I was
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: probably in high school and saw it at the, again,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: old timey person talk but saw it at the video
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: store and thought okay well that this makes sense that
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: they would make a movie because that's what rock stars
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: did but then the beatles had several more movies and
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: then by the time i finally got around to watch
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: and i i'd even heard over the years that it's
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: like oh this is not like the tv show yeah
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: that's what i'd always heard but then somebody told me
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: well jack nicholson co-wrote it and i knew that he
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: was a loose cannon in the 60s definitely.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Back in the day he And was one of those
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: people who's like, whatever you got, I'm going to rebel
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: against it. He's an anti-establishment, especially in the 70s, kind
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: of a dude.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: But he was... he he's good at what he does
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: yeah he uh he's great in one flew over the
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: cuckoo's nest good and easy rider fantastic in the last
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: detail and so it's all around that same time period
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: so i'm like well you know he was young and
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: full of energy so let's see what we got and
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: i watched it and i'm like i don't know what
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Even having been warned that it's not your typical movie
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: and it's not typical monkeys, I was still not prepared.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: It's definitely not. But again, it's just, if nothing else,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: for movie geeks, it is that time capsule of like,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: they're literally shooting this movie on the next lot over
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: or wherever the hell they were shooting Easy Rider, but
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's going to revolutionize the film industry. That
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: is almost the dividing point of when Independent Cinema came along.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: When studios went, oh... I guess we've got to start
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: letting these weird hippies make movies, too.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: That's when they started letting young people make movies.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Young people make movies and realize, well, we can do
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: this without as much of an investment. Instead of making
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: these huge, big-budget, old-timey movies, we can give you a
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: handful of, you know, here's a couple million bucks. Like,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: go make your dumb movie. And, like, oh, wait, it
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: made a whole lot of money. So, like, suddenly you
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: get money involved and the studios are like, oh, maybe
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: we will let these kids make some movies.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely changed so much of it. So to
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: have this as like a companion piece that like, so
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: while they're over there doing this, this is also going on,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: but this is being funded by a much bigger, more
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: studio run. So it's got a huge budget for that
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: type of movie at the time. But at the same time,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's also so weird. You can't believe a
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: studio was involved in this. Like how it came to be,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know, because it's still got a good size
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: budget for this type of thing. But it's so random
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: and nonsensical that I'm like, what studio head was just like,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: all right, I guess just let them finish this. They're
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: not going to go away until we make a movie.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I don't get it.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: But I'm glad I've seen it. Yeah.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: It's definitely a check off your list kind of movie. Again,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I think the commentary is kind of even better.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: See, I need to watch it again just for that.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: It's definitely worth listening to the commentary. yep so that
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: was my weird thing and i was like it seems
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: weird enough that i watched it once but sitting through
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: it a second time was an even more enlightening experience well.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: It makes total sense when you said commentary because i
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: was like i don't.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Know second time in a row that's the thing like
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: within a day i watched both times and i was
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: just like yeah by itself again i don't know i
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: would have been back but with the commentary it's a
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: whole different experience so that was pretty fun.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Are you ready to get into the mood?
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I think I am.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: It's time for Sofa Theater.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Could the ugly, untalented gays please report to the principal's office?
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Guess that's you guys. Tonight is our night. We're getting
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: in the cooch. I'm going to talk to Brittany. You
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: get the out of Isabel. What would I say?
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Hey, girl, how's your boyfriend?
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: How's his.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Penis?
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I'm going to expel you both for committing a crime
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: against Jeff.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Get out of the car.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: You can't tell me what to do.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Get out of.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: The freaking car.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: We were just practicing for our self-defense club.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: It's like a fight club? Yes.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Just stay in your lane until you're munching beaver at Westland. Yes, sir.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: What's your plan here? Jeff is psychotic and they're picking
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: on the weak and defenseless. So we teach a bunch
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: of girls how to defend themselves.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: They are grateful to us.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Adrenaline is flowing.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: Next thing you know, Isabel and Brittany are kissing us
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: on the mouth.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: You can be our club advisor.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: You know, my mom did say I need to pick
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: up a hobby. Welcome to our fucking fight club. Let's
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: get it poppin' in this motherfucker.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: I want that trophy. To have a safe space like this,
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: it means a lot to people.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna finally reverse stalk my stalker.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah!
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I'll be able to kill my stepdad.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: You seem so supportive of women.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Especially the hot ones. Man-made therapy.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Are you cheating on me?
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: No!
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: I literally saw you yesterday.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Show nerd, I fucked your mom!
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: We are literally at the bottom.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: We have nowhere to go but up. Your club is over.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: They deserve a shot at showing everybody how fucking cool
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: they are.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Let's go fuck up some football players. I won that trophy.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: You created a fight club to get some coochie.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: You don't even know how to work that thing.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I know y'all ain't tickling the pearl.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: I just don't know if you're supposed to be talking
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: to us like that, just like as a teacher.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Chill out what you're yelling for lay back it's all
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: been done before and if you could only let it
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: be you will see i like you the way you
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: are when we're driving in your car and you're talking.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: To me one-on-one But you've become somebody else around everyone else.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: You're washing your.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Back like you can't relax. You're trying to be cool.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: You look like a fool to me.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Tell me why'd you have to go and make things
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: so complicated? See the way you're acting.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Like you're somebody else gets me frustrated. Well, once again,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: we were going very different than our usual trips down
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: horror lane, creepy as they may be. So since we
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: didn't have a specific direction, I was like, you know,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: We never do comedy, or rarely. I mean, we do
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: some horror comedies, but they're their own weird subcategory.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: The Dead Meat or whatever we would just watch.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: But just, yeah, I was like, our recent cow movie,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: that was kind of a horror comedy.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: What was that called? Was it Dead Meat?
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: The Mad. The Mad. Wow, I was way off. But the, yeah,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: so we definitely get some comedy in, but we rarely,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: and I've said this to you in the past, like,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I also usually don't care about most modern comedy. I
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: like comedies, but when I think of the ones I like,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: they're all from, like, 30 years ago. Right, right, right.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Or longer. Like, it's rare that there's a common, one
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: that normal people out on the street that have seen
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: recent movie that people consider a comedy that I'm like, yeah,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: that was great. It's rare that I have that.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting here trying to think what the most recent
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: big budget mainstream Hollywood comedy is that I've watched. Mean
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Girls is the only thing I can think of.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: There you go. That's how old now?
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: It's not really a recent movie anymore. Same thing when
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I think like, oh, you know, like Game Night. I
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: was really happy with Game Night. That's already been a
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: long time.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: That's been a while.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, yeah, so nothing since then? I remember
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: we watched Mystery Team. I really liked that. What was that,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: like 12 to 15 years ago? Like, Mystery Team's really good,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: by the way.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen that one.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's worth watching. But again, not really recent. So, yeah. Comedies.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I like them, but it's rare that I run into
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: new ones that I'm excited about. And then lately I've
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: heard so much about this movie that I was like,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: you know, if we got nothing specific to watch, it's
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: a good excuse for me to watch this one. So,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: that's what brings us to this Sofa Theater feature is Bottoms.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: The year is 2023. The director is Emma Selgeman. And
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: the plot, according to IMDb, two unpopular queer high school
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: students start a fight club to have sex before graduation.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: That's pretty accurate. Yeah, that's... So with that spoiler alert,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: we will, I'm sure, run the hell out of this.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: And it is definitely worth seeing, so go seek it out.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: You know, I feel like it's weird that we watched
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: what is.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I hate to use the term, but I guess some
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: people might call it a chick movie, and our resident
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: chick is not here.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I did think it was interesting as we got into
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: this because I would like to hear her take on it.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I would love to hear her take on it.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: But once again, it's not horror, so usually the only
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: time we're all three here is because we're watching horror.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Because I feel like the characters, I do feel like
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: this is a female empowerment movie.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Definitely. Definitely.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Which I want everyone to know I say that with
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: all respect.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: We're on the good side of the Barbie people.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: For now.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Because in a year that, yeah, we had so many
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: people lose their shit because Barbie was popular.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, I'm not on that side. You
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: guys can be pissy about it if you want.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, we're not on that side of that.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: But I also feel like our lead characters were... Painfully realistic.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: But I'm also saying that from a man's point of view,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: and I would love to hear a woman's take on this.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Definitely. But this was, as I watched it, and I
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I would like to hear what she
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: has to say about it. Also, this is a, as
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: in stated in this, a very queer friendly movie.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: In its own way. Everybody gets beat up, but still
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: like the characters themselves.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: But as they point out several times in the movie, nobody,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: none of the characters got beat up because they're queer.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: So I was happy to see that.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: So it's like that in and of itself is a
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: different category that we don't have a lot of representation,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: but you know, that's not our fault. Feel free to
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: join the show. But as I got into it, I
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: was like, well, even though there are these two big
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: areas that we don't fall into, I was like, that's
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: why I think this movie works so well is because
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Like it's not asking you to like
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: it because of these other categories. It's just a good comedy.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: And that should be like, that is why it should
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: be universally like praised because it's just freaking funny.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Well, on that, and yeah, it is very funny, but
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: on that topic, one thing that I liked is that
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: apart from the two main characters who they point out
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: right away are gay or lesbians, they don't even bring
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: that up with any of the others. Except for one
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: point where it is important to the plot to know
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: that she's straight.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Or eventually almost everyone's gay. Yeah. As it unfolds, it
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: was like, maybe that's just the takeaway. You might as
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: well just Consider your options. Yeah. So, I mean, I
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: spent half the movie. I've known Rachel Sennett is, and
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I was going to look at her list and try
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: to figure out when, because I've known who she is
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: for years.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: And, like, I know she worked with this director on
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Shiva Baby, so, like, she's been doing movies. I remember
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: her sitcom run was probably the most screen time I've
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: seen of her.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: What sitcom was that?
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Now I better look and see because that's the sad
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: thing is like she was just it was such a
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: weird like standard regular old sitcom. And then she just
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: got to be like the daughter. So everything was like
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: so normal sitcom. It was so weird watching her like.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: just kind of have to play normal, like knowing her
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: sense of humor, which comes through very heavily in this movie.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: So try to imagine her in a regular network, half
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: hour sitcom scenario. It's like, and where she's not the lead.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: So she really doesn't even have much to do in it.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: She's just there to have funny one-liners every once in
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: a while.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you got to pay your dues.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was, it was entertaining, but so yeah,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: that was call your mother. which was the Kira Sedgwick
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: fronted sitcom. And it was, as that type of thing goes,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: it was fun. It was, you know, her and Joey
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Bragg are the siblings and like they didn't live with
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: their mother and then their mother moves out to LA
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: to be near them. And then they have to put
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: up with their mom as sort of grownups, which the
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: other thing is weird because she's playing like a grownup adult,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: obviously in her mid twenties woman on that sitcom. And
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I was just like, Wait, are they in high school? Yeah.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: So it was kind of hard for me to back
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: up and be like, both these leads are easily in
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: their mid-20s. But, I mean, that's every movie, every TV show.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Everybody in high school is played by 28-year-olds.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: So it's not unusual. It's just one of those I'd
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: gotten used to her being not a high schooler, so
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I had to back it up a little bit and
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: be like, oh, well, whatever.
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Out of context, I guess I could buy it. Neither
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: of them look old. They just don't seem like high schoolers. Right.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: No, I'm looking at the pictures from the show and
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like, man.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very sitcom-y and did not last. I think
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: it only got that one season. But that was probably
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: the most mainstream thing. But I've known of her mostly Instagram.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, really?
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: If you follow her on Instagram, and I feel like
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: it's a very, speaking of a nice feminist agenda... I
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: feel like her entire Instagram feed is just baiting idiots.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: On the internet. Okay.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Because it's everything she does, like a normal Hollywood person
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: going out in town, going on parties, going to do fun,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: cool stuff. And she's usually dressed awesome or looks, again,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: she's mighty attractive. So this is her photo. She looks
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: that way. Almost never in the entire run of her
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Instagram is she smiling. Every shot, no matter how cool
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: a thing she's doing, no matter how awesome a dress
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: she's wearing, just dead face.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: That's great.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I can see the comments coming through. Oh, yeah.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Why don't you smile? I swear it has to be.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Because I kept looking at them going, all right, this
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: is a conscious choice. After a few scrolls through, I
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: was like, this is a very conscious decision to put
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: this out there.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: That is great.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: It has to just be messing with dumb, mostly guys
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: on the internet.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Especially in this movie, there is a shot.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: The poster?
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the poster. It says, if you're a woman, smile.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: You look pretty or something.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I think I wrote it down. Let me see. Oh,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: let's see. What the hell did that poster say? It
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: just says that she walks by in the hallway. You're
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: prettier when you smile.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, is that what it says? Okay.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I was like, wow. I wonder who came up with
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: that poster. Yeah. Considering she wrote this movie, and that's
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: kind of her entire side story. internet business not smiling
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: for asshole dudes.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Tons of great one-liners like that though.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's maybe the well it's what i
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: go to with any good comedy it's like if there's
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: something that i really do like as a comedy it's
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: not always and actually most of the time it's not
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: the big set pieces or crazy wacky stuff it's just
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: the weird one-off lines between characters that i'm like okay,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: that was good, and wasn't even paused for a laugh moment.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: It was so quick. We already went on to the
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: next thing, but I was like, that's my favorite part
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: right there.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I love, oh, there were so many lines in
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: this movie where I was like, nope, that's my favorite.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: No, that's my favorite.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: And then 30 seconds later, we'd be on to something else. Yeah,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: on comedy, I love having those fast quips that, sometimes later,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: you're like, wait a minute.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I do want to go back and watch it again
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: just to catch the other ones. Like, there's so many.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: It's so rapid fire that I'm like, there's ones that
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: have to be, like, getting lost in the shuffle there. So, yeah,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: I think I want to go watch it again just
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: for the one-liners.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Oh, man.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: So, the other thing I guess we should address is
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: the fact that, as previously hinted at, it's almost in
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: a fictional universe. In what way?
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: It's in its own.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Little, like.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Unrealistic, filtered world where, I mean, the football douches always
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: wear their uniforms.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I was going to bring that up.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: At all times, everywhere.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: I was going to mention that.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I was like, it's its own dumb universe that like,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: It's just making fun of everybody. So, like, again, it's not...
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that going in. Like, I kind of
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: heard it was a little different, but I didn't go
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: in expecting. Because then later, I think the director said, like,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I want to make my own not-a-teen movie, basically. Like,
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: that ridiculous level of high school where nobody... really behaves
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: you know real world type we just take the jokes
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and the uh caricatures of these dumb people and just
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: turn it up to 11 so like that's what they
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: were going for and like as you get in you
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: don't notice it like not another teen movie is so
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: over the top that like immediately you're like oh it's
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: one of those movies this one eases their way in
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: and you're just like okay wait it takes a few
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: times of different things that you're like what are they
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: doing in this movie right Yeah, it becomes its own
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: crazy universe that I'm like, all right. Once again, like
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: the poster in the background. I'm like, that's not normal.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: That's them making the jokes within the universe that they
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: create here. Like, yeah, there's little subtle touches there and
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: sometimes not so subtle that are kind of awesome.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm trying to figure out what order to
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: go into because there's so many. So many not real
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: world scenario or even things that it's like, okay, if
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: this were a real world situation, this would be a
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: huge red flag.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Or the fact that, I mean, just basic dialogue. Everybody
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: curses nonstop. And I'm like, within dumb friend groups, yeah,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: most high school movies are like that. But when they're
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: talking to teachers, when they're giving a public address over
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: the loudspeaker.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: When they're saying it over the morning announcement.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: When they're talking to people in front of the whole gym.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. Just F-bombs right and left. The most god-awful
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: things will be said and nobody blinks.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Nobody cares.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Nobody thinks anything about it. Even the dumb grown-ups, which
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: there are only a handful. But, like, they don't ever
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: respond and are usually also doing it. So, that, again,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: it was just sort of like, this is its own
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: little skewed universe here.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I have to tell you, Mr. G may be one
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: of my favorite teachers in any movie ever. And just
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: the fact that his name is Mr. G.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Well, again, that's one of those that I feel like
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: probably hits different with other people.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Because... Initially, I don't think I would have known who
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: he was, period. Again, they're pulling in a celebrity, I guess. Right.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: If you're the right person. I'm assuming neither of us
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: are that person.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize until the end credits rolled who he was.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, I only knew because I wouldn't have known anything.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I would have maybe suspected just because he carries himself
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: like he's an athlete. Right. But I only knew because
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I was like, isn't that guy from Stars on Mars?
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: which i only half watched again because it was so
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: ridiculous and they were putting on episodes during the writer's
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: strike when everything else was old and reruns yeah it
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: was one of the few new things and i was
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: like I don't like Ariel Winter. I guess I'll see
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: what's going on on this. And he was like one
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: of the main guys. And I was just like, that's
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: the only thing that clicked in my head. So that's
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: the only. There's my sports go-to. The guy from Stars
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: on Mars. And I'm pretty sure he was a football
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: guy on there. So that's probably why they brought him
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: in to be this coach slash teacher.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I don't even think I know anything. Oh, wow. I'm
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: looking at photos from Stars on Mars.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. It's dumb. Like, it is, it's an interesting idea,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: but they even, within the context of that idea, didn't
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: really take it seriously.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: It's, I don't have any patience for reality shows, but
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I occasionally make exception for celebrity reality shows. Okay. Only
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: because I like some of the celebrities, so I want
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: to see them and what they do in this dumb stuff.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, I do remember the promos for this now, and
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I remember thinking, well, they're not going to actually be
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: on Mars. I don't give a shit, so.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: That's also true. Occasionally, they would blow things up, which
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I was surprised. I don't know how.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: I always picture him with a flamethrower.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how they found a way to
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: make sure they weren't actually going to blow up celebrities.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: But again, usually it's low end. No offense to Ariel Winter.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: But the rest of them were like, when half the
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: people on these, I'm using quotes now, celebrity shows, I
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: don't know who the hell they are. Because they're always
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: from other reality shows.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't count that.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know who you guys are. So you don't
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: really count as celebrities.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: That's just cranky old man talking.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: New kids watch reality shows just like regular shows. I understand.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I just don't agree with it. Anyway, that's the only
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: reason I knew who that guy was. Yeah. Stars on Mars.
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: He is pretty damn funny. And the notes say most
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: of his lines were improvised, which I totally buy.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: I believe that based on the little, they showed you
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: the extra scenes.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: At the end.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the end where they're just him just saying whatever.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I feel like there was a lot of that going
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: on on this set probably. No offense to the writer,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: which is also our lead, and the director. Not that
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: they didn't write an amazing script because it is pretty awesome,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: but I feel like there was room for some ad-libbing.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: My only critique of the script was there's a couple
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: of scenes where some of the dialogue goes on a
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: little too long that I found myself losing interest. But
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: other than that, I mean, when we get into the
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: one-liners and the put-downs... Yeah.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Well, and just the commitment to dorkiness. Oh, yeah. As
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: we got into these two, I was just... Because they're
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: already like, they're still unpopular. I'm like, look, you're both adorable.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Don't even pretend. And then as you get into it,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, no. You two are a freaking mess.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: When they're both trying to talk to the cool girls,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, wow, this is painful. And that's coming
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: from me.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Well, that's... That's where I said this felt realistic because
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: having been, okay, admittedly not a teenage lesbian, but as
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: a teenage boy and even as an adult man.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: It doesn't get any better.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: I still find myself having those conversations and it's like, oh.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: here's how I try to start a conversation with a girl. Nope,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: that was bad.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: And that's why I was like, I don't think it
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: should be something that only girls, only queer people are
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: going to talk about it. I was like, I think
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: it's so well done because it's universal enough that like
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: that stuff is like side issues that come up later.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, for the most part, it's like, these
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: are our two characters. By the way, they're super dorks.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, I can get on board
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: with this. So yeah, I think that, is so accurately portrayed.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Even if the dialogue itself gets very ridiculous sometimes, the
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: level of commitment to their dorkiness is pretty impressive.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: It's up there. Although I did have an issue with
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: the opening scene of the movie. She's wearing her arms
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: in a sling. And then all of a sudden, what
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: is I assume the next day, no sling.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: And they don't address why. I did have that same...
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: like was she actually when they were shooting yeah and
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: also she was holding it wrong like why was it
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: at a weird angle like normally it's up here you
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: can't see at home but you keep it kind of
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: parallel where hers was like.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Kind of cranked at a weird.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Sideways angle the whole time like she was purposely trying
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: to do it I was like is it supposed to
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: be like that and why is it in a sling
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: and it leads to the whole weird backstory kind of
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: but then we never address why it just goes away
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: or what it was actually from or i don't know
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: so yeah i agree that that's a weird little all
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: you had to do was like work in a way
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: to bridge those two but we don't really get that.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Very strange but yeah i could tell um yeah during
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: the opening scene where they're in the girl's bedroom and
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: they're just talking about oh we're gonna get laid and
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: you know we're finally gonna get.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Laid and It's very 80s comedy.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: It was very 80s comedy, but I was like, this
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: is going to be an interesting take on Superbad, which
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: I thought was a great movie anyway. And at the time,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: the more realistic of the teenagers just trying to get
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: laid movie. But this one turned out to be Superbad
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: meets Fight Club.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: And at first I thought, well, it won't be exactly
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: like Fight Club. But then as we get into it
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: and they're building bombs.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: It's a little closer, yeah, than you might expect. The
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: other one I was thinking, and maybe this is a
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: little too go-to. Because, I guess, two female leads and
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: one of them is gay. And so, like, Booksmart, it
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: has a very... Which, that's maybe my other most recent. Like,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: I really liked Booksmart. And I thought it was, again,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: presenting really interesting characters. And, like, they were dealing with
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: stuff in their own weird way. It just was a
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: little more grounded to a regular high school. Not our
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: fictional crazy world. Still pretty weird.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: But, yeah.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: So, that was another one that I was like, it's
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: a little Booksmart. But I'm like, that's not a... That's
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: not a bad thing. Booksmart was pretty damn smart as
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: a screenplay itself. I'm fine with pulling from all of
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: these things.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, sure. No, I got no problem with that.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Which is kind of what I think. It is almost
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: the joke of like, well, we're going to make fun
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: of this dumb 80s idea of like, all we want
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: to do is get laid. So much so that it
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: seems ridiculous by the time we get to the big
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: reveal at the end. So wait, even when the girl
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: was like, the girlfriend's mad, I'm like, yeah, duh. I'm like, right? Like,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: first of all, anybody, that's their goal in life. But
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: especially a dumb high school kid. Like, duh. Of course
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: they wanted to get laid. So I was just like,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: is that what you guys are going to get mad about?
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: It's like, duh. Everybody's looking for that. So, yeah.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Well, it was refreshing to see that, uh, Be focused
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: on women instead of guys.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Definitely 80s, that's all it was. Guys getting laid, guys
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: getting laid.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Women, from what I have been told, have needs too.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think quite a.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Lot, actually.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Depending on who you talk to. I've heard a lot
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: of very frank discussions on this sort of matter.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Do you have their phone numbers?
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Some of them, maybe. I don't know that any of
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: them want to hear from me. That's true of everyone
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: at those points.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: I'm fine with it.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: But I take that into account. I'm like, yeah, I've Again,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: you will get some of the most gory details of
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: things going down from women. Oh, yeah, yeah. Guys just
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: try to, like, pull the I'm super cool move and, like,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: here's what I did and nailed this girl, whatever. But
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: girls get into the details.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, excruciating details.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Yep, I have definitely heard some stories. So this does
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: not surprise me from that angle, but you don't always
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: see it in films. I kind of liked it from that.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: I know a girl who's told me many stories that
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: end with me going, you know, when you started telling
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: me this, I thought this is awesome. And then you
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: got to the end and I'm like, I feel so
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: bad about this person that I'm never going to meet
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: that you just told me all about.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Sometimes not even relationship-y, which I've definitely got a lot
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: of those. But there was one, who shall remain nameless,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: that I was around a lot, who would every time
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: after her trip to the gynecologist would give me the rundown,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: very detailed, with specific, sometimes motion specifics. I'm using my
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: hand now and you don't want to see what I'm doing.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: But she would somehow, sometimes describe a finishing move that
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: the doctor would use that she felt was a little
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: uncalled for. So, yeah, sometimes I was like, you know,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: it's kind of weird that you tell me this, but
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I'm okay with it. I like that we're this comfortable
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: that you can go down that road.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not real squeamish when it comes to these discussions.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: I'm fine with it.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: It's not that I'm squeamish about it necessarily. I just
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: have to wonder if I just all of a sudden
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: launched into my own story unprovoked, which most of the
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: stories I hear are unprovoked.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Mine are usually coming this way. That's why I
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: especially to that person. I usually refer to myself as
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: her therapist. And I was like, all right, well, we've
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: done pretty good today. We'll pick back up next time
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: and see if we can get a little deeper into
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: this and figure out what's really. Yeah, I tried to.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: She wouldn't pay it, but I feel like my time
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: is worth a lot of money. Nobody agrees. But yeah,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: I do like that they very quickly get into that
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: mode of just like, yeah, we don't care. Right. We're
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: going to write this the way that we talk to
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: each other and you guys are along for the ride.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: No, I love that. Yeah.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: I think that's what we need in general in screenwriting.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: That is one I was going to address is definitely
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: one more reason to, again, most of your Barbie-hating guys
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: out there are going to feel differently, but I'm like,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: this is why you need other people writing film, directing film, like,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: creating film, because you get stuff that you're not going
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: to get any other time, place. When they get to
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: the scene sitting around, they're like, okay, so who's been raped?
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, a guy's not going to write
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: that line. Because you know what? They don't think about
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: that shit. This isn't something that they worry about every
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: day of their life.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Or if a guy were to write that line, it
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: would be coming from a totally different.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or he'd try to be serious. Like, she's still being,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: you know, this is a fun comedy, but I'm going
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: to put this in here because it's not even a joke.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: This is what we deal with every day in our lives.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: So I'm just like, that's... impressive that it's just in
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: there because it needs to be in there.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Well i even loved her follow-up line which was gray
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: area stuff counts yeah it was like oh because then
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: everybody was hands up it's like oh i'm a i
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: was like.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: I hate the world yeah it's like hi yeah but
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: i was just like that's something that you're not gonna
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: get when you just hand it to the same people
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: to write movies over and over again you need to
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: broaden your horizons and bring some more people in because
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: You get shit that you don't get otherwise. So how
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: about Hazel? At first, as she popped up, I was like,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: is she just going to be their Donnie? Yeah. Because
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: I kept waiting for her to be the third wheel
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: and everything was getting with, shut the fuck up, Hazel.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Because it started that way. And I was like, all right,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: maybe that's all she's going to be. And then eventually
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I was like, no, she is her own full-fledged character.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Hazel is something else.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: She's got a lot going on.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Especially when we see her home life.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Which, again, like, once you get into these
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: people and their weird backstories, it's like, I do like
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: that sometimes it is just teenage drama. When we get
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: into the crazy girl, and she's just like, her new
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: stepdad wants to have movie night. And that is making
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: her flip the fuck out.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Well, I.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Wait, what is your problem?
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm like, what else is going on?
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I know, I kept waiting for the reveal where he's
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: doing something creepy.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Because it came up right after the who's been raped. Yeah,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: And I kept waiting for that. And I was like, no,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: she's just being a super dramatic teenager, isn't she?
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Well, I do want to talk more about Hazel. But
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: that character from the beginning where she was like, I
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: can finally kill my stepdad.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I know. And I was like, all right, if there's reason,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: go to town.
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, as we get into it, it's like, God, just
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: leave me alone. It's like, oh, no, she's just a
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: dumb teenager. Okay, okay, good to know.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Hazel, though, yeah, when she first appeared, I thought she's, yeah,
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: like you said, the third wheel, the dorky tag-along person.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: But no, she's got her own things going on. The
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: fact that she just so casually mentions that it won't
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: even be a problem for her to build a bomb
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: to stick under dudes' cars.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Well, I do like that, oh, yeah, let's do terrorism.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: And then, I mean, she did say those words. Now,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: if you're not picking up on the way that she's
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: saying those words, which I guess Hazel wasn't because she
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: built a bomb.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: But back to the, and again, back to the football player,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: when Hazel comes in and she finds out that her
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: mom's banging the head guy who walks in wearing only
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: his jock strap and his shoulder pads.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: And still the shoulder pads.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Still the shoulder pads.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Because never are they fully out of their uniforms. But
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: even when having sex. Well, see, that's another one of
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: those that's like such a weird detached world. Like the
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: way that all the football guys behave. I'm like, okay,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: in the real world, if you acted like these guys,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: you would get your ass kicked. Like in the real world,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: none of these things they're doing and saying make any
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: sense or seem like any real dude on a football team.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: But within the context of this movie, it's hilarious and
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: And we talked about caricatures earlier. Oh, yeah.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: He is such a caricature.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Every little thing that happens to the football team, the
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: teachers and the principals are like, why are you treating
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: our football players like this?
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: The other background thing that was alternate universe, just him
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: shirtless on all the posters. Like the whole school revolved
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: around him and him as the sex object that he is.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Because every one of them was him shirtless. And I
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, I would hope a real school
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: would have problems with this. I don't know anymore. Weird
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: stuff goes on.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Well, the fact that parents at the football game are
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: holding up cutouts.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Of him shirtless. Cutouts of him shirtless. Like, this should
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: be red flags all over the place, but nobody seems
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: to even blink.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Yep. Alternate crazy world, and I like it.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that at his core... Was it Jeff
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: or Jeffrey? Was that the.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: The other guy?
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Well, the main football guy.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: At his core, he's such a little bitch.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, nothing puts an imperfective more than his car accident.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Dink!
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, God. I was just like, once again, at that point,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, this is not a normal movie.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: No, not at all.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: And him screaming up to the sky, why? Or any
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: number of alternate takes as we got to the end.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: But I was just like, yeah, this is a crazy,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: over-the-top movie, and I dig it.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Well, there's a scene where the girls, the first three girls...
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: They come up with the idea. Or they've already announced,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: I think, the fight club or defense class, however you
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: want to call it. But they're in the bleachers and
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: they're talking. And if you look in the background, you
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: can see him walk onto the field with crutches. And
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: then throws them away.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Because everybody knows this is bullshit. But nobody.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: God, what a movie.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody questions it. Like, every one of the teachers
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: is just like, oh, they're so worried about him.
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: And.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: The fact that they might even be taking attention away
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: from the football team. Right. And just like, well then,
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: this is how school works, actually. That's pretty close.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I've seen a little more of a Matt that I'm
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: okay with, but yeah. But yeah, most of the rest
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: of this time watching the movie was just me going,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: where do I know her from? Wait, where do I
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: know her from? Everybody in the cast, I was like,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: damn it. I know I've seen them in something in
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: my brain. useless as it is most of the time now.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so after this, I'm going to just
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: spend an hour on IMDb going, oh, that one. So
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: most of them, that's why.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: You know, we're talking about how different of a movie
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: it is. The fact that one of the characters fully
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: admits that, yeah, my entire identity is built around her.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, she's the one. I knew who she was, but
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: I was just like, the entire movie going... Oh, my God.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: There has to be cloning. Like, she is so frighteningly
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: exactly her mother. It is disturbing. Like, she is just
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: a cookie cutter of Cindy Crawford. Oh, yeah.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, very much so.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Somehow they took the mole out of the process. But
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: other than that, like, 100% looks exactly like her. like
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: decades ago well yeah not that she's changed like her
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: mother looks frighteningly exactly the same now.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: She's what you call timeless well and she has magic
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: melons so you know if you watch that infomercial it's
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: those magic melons that do it yeah they're.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: French that's that's what makes them extra magic french magic melons.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Sure yeah a lot of a lot of these kids
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: look very familiar but Well.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: That was our other lead, too. I was like, I
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: know I've seen her. And then I get into, like,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: once I left, I was like, Iowa Deberry? She has
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: a very complicated name for someone who can't pronounce anyone's name.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, I've just seen her on
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: every award show. Yeah. I haven't watched The Bear. I
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: want to watch The Bear. I'm like, hey, look, it's Lip.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: And now he's running a restaurant.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Little did I know it was like going to sweep every,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: like this last season of awards, like the bear and
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: those actors took home freaking everything. So like she won
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: a Golden Globe. She won an Emmy. She won a
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Critics' Choice Award. Like I've watched her give speeches over
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: and over over the last like two months. And then
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, no wonder I know. Like no
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: wonder she's so damn familiar. I've just watched her on
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: every stage. Now I guess I have to watch the bear.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: She's, the bear is really good.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Well, And she's great on it. And she is a
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: very no-nonsense, very intense character.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: And just in her presentation as herself on stage, she
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: seems super funny. And so again, the fact that this
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: is what we get from her on screen, I'm like, oh, well, yeah,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: it all makes sense. And again, makes me now really
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: want to watch The Bear, which I want to anyway.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: In The Bear, she is very lesbian. Nielsen funny in
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: that she comes off so dry and so serious and
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: she's saying funny lines but she's not saying them in
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: a way that is funny and that's what makes it
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: funny if you.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: Know That's its own, yeah, that's its own brand of humor.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Like Leslie Nielsen.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Well, it's also like she's definitely the straight character, no
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: pun intended, in this movie. But I'm like, because, you know,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Rachel says the most outlandish foul-mouthed shit, and she's just
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: got to be there to be like, but no. She's
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: just got to be the voice of reason most of
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: the time, except it never works out, and she goes
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: along with her anyway and gets in trouble. But she's
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: always like, the most level-headed out of a bunch of
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: crazy people so like she is usually the one trying
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: to bring down the insanity but it doesn't work so
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: but yeah that still kind of works as her emo
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: in this too and then havana rose lou the whole
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: time like isabel i was just like oh yes yes
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: you're right she's super cute but i was like i
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: know i've seen her before I talked about it on
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: the horror show not long ago. No Exit is the
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: movie just like a year or two ago that she's
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: in and she is the lead. And it is sort
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: of horror, sort of thriller, and it's really good. And again,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: she was great in it. So that's why I was like,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: I remember after that movie going, have I seen this
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: girl before? Because she's great. And like, no, she's been
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: in other stuff, but I hadn't really seen much else.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: But No Exit was the one I was thinking of
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: as I watched this movie. I was like, I know
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: I've just seen her in something. And, yeah, so, watch
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: No Ex. She's great.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No Ex I haven't seen. I've heard of the
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: other stuff. I'm not familiar with it.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't all that familiar with the rest. But
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: then I got to that one. I was like, nope,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: that's it. I remember looking her up afterwards going, that's
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: exactly why. I knew I'd seen her and stuff. But, yeah,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: most of the time I was just sitting there going,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: I know that one. I know that one. Where do
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: I know her from? Why does she look like a clone? Right.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: This is kind of creepy. Yeah. And what the hell
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: is Punky Johnson doing here? Her one scene, their babysitter,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: the trailer lady.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's who that was.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: I got to the end. I was like, I think
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: that's who that was. She was covered up mostly, so
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: you couldn't tell. I'm pretty sure that's her.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: When she pops out of the trailer, I'm like, oh,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: my God. I might get in trouble for this, but
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, my God, they got Whoopi Goldberg.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: And then the moment she starts speaking.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: There was definitely a look that, yeah, I was like,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. But yeah, it kind of looks
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: like how she dresses most of the time.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Well, now that I'm looking at pictures of her, yeah.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: So my apologies to Ms. Johnson. I love that the
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: school seems to be okay with the rival school murdering
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: the players of their team.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: That's... Maybe as we got towards the end, I was like, yeah,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: if ever there's something that is just out in its
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: own little realm where in this world that we've established,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: everybody's just kind of accepted the fact that every couple
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: of decades they murder someone and that's just what happens.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: So just stay inside that night. Don't worry about it.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: You'll be okay. So I was like, what a weird
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: world that we've put together.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: In this movie. Yeah. I mean, there's other things, too,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: where I'm like, again, real world. Again, one of my
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: many favorite lines, but they throw the fruit cocktail at
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: the goth kid. And he's like, I wasn't going to
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: do it, but this is a last resort. And then
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: you see his notebook. plan to bomb the.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: School again something that they don't joke about much these
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: days so that was already pushing the envelope like oh
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: you're gonna piss somebody.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Off but it was it was funny it was.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: And especially by the end as we come back around
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: there was a sort of payoff to that yeah yeah
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: it was those little like yeah the the lines along
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: the way the uh constantly catching the jock and how
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: dumb he is when it's just like i'm i'm helping
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: her with her taxes didn't you aren't you an eighth
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: grade math yeah it's like shut up those are the
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: little jokes that i was like yeah this is what
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: makes the movie it's like as much fun as i'm
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: having with all of this the little one-liners aren't you
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: eighth grade math.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: Well and and the scene when mr g uh feels
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: like he's been betrayed by the girls and he gives
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: this big impassioned speech about how You know, I was
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: actually your ally and this and that. And the next
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: thing you see is him writing on the chalkboard, feminism,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: why we should probably never have a woman president.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Well, I liked that earlier when it was like, feminism,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: who came up with it? And then it's like, look,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Gloria Steinem, a man, some other chick.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: That's what it was.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: Something like that. Some other lady.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: The thing about the presidents, I think, was women are evil. Yeah.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: That was his closing point. People keep telling me that's
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: not the case, but his speech was fun. I really
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: liked her little, at the very beginning, her little ramble
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: of how her life is going to go because she's
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: not ever going to get laid.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: She's going to have to marry.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: She goes into that whole huge story.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: I'm going to marry this other gay student and he's
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: going to become a preacher, but we'll both be closeted.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Please come visit us on Sunday.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: She's being so dramatic at that point, like almost uncharacteristically
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: that I'm like, is she serious? Or is she just
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: being goofy? Because Rachel's not taking any of it. She's like, whatever. Yeah.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: She's just like, shut up. Here she comes. She just
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: doesn't even acknowledge how crazy and overdramatic that whole story is.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, that's another final.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: I think that's what I liked about this movie. There
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: is a plot, there is a through line, but it's
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: all the little pieces that come together that I think
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: was what I really enjoyed most about it.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: So here's another. I definitely wanted to hit, again, as
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: a bigger question, because there's a decent amount of music,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: but there are two very key songs, both of which
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: are older. So now I'm asking... do we get to
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: a point where it's no, like it comes back around
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: full circle and it's not used ironically because when either
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: like total eclipse of the heart, I think is an
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: amazing song. Fantastic. But is at this point almost its
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: own punchline when you use it, especially in a comedy
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: and kind of same thing. And like Avril is for
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: a while became her own joke. Like she was a
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: punchline coming out of her era very quickly. She became
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: a punchline and, And through the early 2000s, that would
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: have been an ironic joke. Sure. But we've come so
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: long since then. I'm like, is it a whole new
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: generation that doesn't remember it enough for it to be irony?
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: And now they're just using songs like, hey, I like
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: this song.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: That could very well be.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Is that the case now? Where if you're a kid
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: watching this that actually is in high school... You might
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: remember those songs because they came up on your feed
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: somewhere along the way if you're listening to oldies. But, like,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: it doesn't even register that it would be a joke. Whereas,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: if you're old and you remember them the first time,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: you're like, ha ha, look, they're playing Avril Lavigne.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: Like, is everyone else reading it like that?
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: That's a good point. Because I did think, oh, Avril Lavigne.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Hilarious.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: I do think Complicated's a pretty good song. This is
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: a good song. She's made some questionable decisions over the years.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: She has. Mostly her marriage. But that aside, I was
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: just like, that whole first run of her, I was like,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: she's not bad. And what she's doing is very calculated.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not the pop princess thing. So like, it was
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: the flip side of that. Now, granted, it was equally
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: as corporate run and manipulated as the other side. So
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: I was like, it wasn't honest, really. But at the
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: same time, I was like, I just like that there's
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: another option that she's like, pretending at least that she's
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: a skateboard kid and she's into punk rock. Her songs
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: are equally as poppy as the other side, but it's
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: all presentation. So I was like, I appreciated that in
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: its own weird way when it.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: Happened the first time. Yeah, and also the older I
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: get and I look at situations like that and especially
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: how young she was.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: I'm sure she didn't have a lot to do with
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: all that.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: It's hard for me to place blame on her or
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: even to say, Oh, she shouldn't have done that because,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: you know, 16, you're trying to come up with your
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: own identity.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: And I appreciated what she was doing, that like there
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: probably were kids out there, young girls who did feel
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: that way and like didn't have anybody that was the order.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: So again, even if it was. somewhat manipulated. And again,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: we're back to the monkeys at this point. If, if
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: it's created by a corporation to appeal to the kids,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: like whatever, if you still appreciate it, if you're still
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: connecting with it because it's what you are interested in,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: even if it was disingenuous from the beginning, you're still
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: bringing you to it and your interest to it. So
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: like it's legit from your perspective, really. So yeah, I
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: don't know. I just thought that was interesting that they're
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: so far gone at this point. definitely freaking total eclipse
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: of the heart i'm just like that's so old now
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: that like we've had a couple of generations cycle through
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: oh yeah like would have no context for its original
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: run so yeah you can kind of just do whatever
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: with it. And depending on how old your audience is,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: it may not land the same.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a good point. That's a really
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: good point actually, because yeah, we've put, We've put meaning
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: on those songs because we've seen them in other movies,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: but the younger audience who may have never even heard
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: the song at all has no context to it.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: Or doesn't understand, speaking of an insane world, the insane
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: world of Jim Steinman.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: Like, I appreciate on a level that is... not normal
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: but also acknowledge that it is insane and over the
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: top and if everybody was if anybody was ever tapped
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: into overdoing dramatic teenage thinking yeah it's jim steinman oh
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: yeah every one of his songs is like i don't
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: know how you distilled it especially because you weren't a
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: teenager when he wrote this he was easily in his
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: mid-20s when he started and went on and was like well,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: an old man when he was still writing these insane,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: weird teenage songs that were still caught up in that
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: bullshit world in an amazing way, in a distilled way.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't even know how you write
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: something like this. It is so insane and amazing at
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: the same time.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: Well, if you ever take the lyrics from beginning to
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: end from Paradise by the Dashboard Light, That is a
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: teenage boy's thought process that a mature man of 25
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: or whatever should be starting to grow away from. I
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: would think, okay, I'm going to recall this. I'm going
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: to recall what it was like to be 17 because
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: they explicitly stay in the songs that they were only 17.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: But I'm going to write like that. I'm going to
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: write in that mindset. I would still think there'd be
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: that little piece of you that'd be like, I can't
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: put that in.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: Or even if you did, like when you write that
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: stuff as an older person, you put perspective on it.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: And without even trying, probably, you reflect on the state
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: of mind that you were in when you were a
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: dumb kid. His never had that. They were never self-aware.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Even when he was writing stuff much older, they were never, again,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: it was never ironic. It was always, I am knee
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: deep in this insane, angsty teenage world, and everything is
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: so heightened. That's exactly how his songs feel. And they're amazing,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: but it doesn't bear any resemblance to the real world,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: which is maybe why it fits so well in this movie. Yeah,
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: that's true. So, yeah, I don't know. There's so many
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: levels to that that I was just like, this is
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: weird and I like it, but it's all weird.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: Jim Steinman. Oh, man. What a piece of work.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: It's so easy to go back and forth on Jim
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: Steinman because on the one hand, you're like, genius. On
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: the other hand, you're like, Weirdo.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: 11-year-old. Yeah. How do you write this bullshit? But, like,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: it's followed up with this line that is amazing. So... Yeah.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: Surf's up and so am I. I'm like, dude, how
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: old are you? You are ridiculous. I listened to that
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: the other day. I was like, I forgot about that one. Fuck.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: It's just... Oh, so ridiculous. So... Again. A very separate
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: little world. Oh, yeah.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: But I like that. I like watching movies where this world...
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: It's like this world doesn't exist. This is not how
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: it is. But it's close to our world.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: It's close enough that we can almost use that to
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: make the point.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: We can... extreme everything that we need to to make
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: fun of it but at the same time it's sort
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: of nailing what we're going for here which we definitely
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: get a lot of that in this movie that it's
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: unrealistic and yet is making its point maybe more so
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: by turning everything up to 11 it's like oh this
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: is so silly oh but is it yeah is it
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: or is it just a shade over the top from
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: how the world really is and like sometimes I'm like
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: yeah kind of kind of yeah Like the, again, if
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: we're getting into, oh shit, the Hazel fight for God's sake.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: I was just like, once it started, I was like, okay,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: isn't she the one that said like she was into
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Taekwondo or something? So I'm like, all right, she can
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: hold her own. Dude, like by the finishing move, it's
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: like Jesus. Why did we just have to watch Hazel
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: get beaten to a pulp?
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: And what teacher is going to allow that?
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: Well, the fact that, again, in the alternate universe where
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: they keep this dude in a cage.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: I guess that was theatrics for the pep rally, kind of.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Maybe not.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: There is a scene in the first scene in the classroom.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: You see it for like a split second. And I'm like,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: why is this dude in a cage? And they never
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: address it until we get to the next scene.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that was painful, literally.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: Brutal. I'm just like, geez. Why is this okay? Which, again,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: it's not that is the point. It's like this is
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: a little over the top, and yet grown-ups don't have
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: a problem with it. They're just like, yep, have fun
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: with your pep rally.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Whatever.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Beat the hell out of that girl. It's fine.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: I just thought of this just, again, I guess maybe
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: alternate reality, but where the kid is calling, the football
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: player is calling the juvie sinners. To get records of
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: these girls and the camera pans out and he's got
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: the yellow pages, but he's on a smartphone, which means
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: he doesn't need the yellow pages anymore. And I don't
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: know if they put that much thought into the joke.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: Well, again, who would even know what the hell a
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: yellow page is?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, good point. Maybe they did put that much
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: thought into it.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: So much so that here's a real world example. They
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: handed out the, like, now they make the miniature version
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: of the phone books that they still keep throwing on
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: your porch for some reason. I'm like, how many old
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: people still pick this up? But my joke is, and
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: it's not a joke, the person down the way from
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: me It sat there for weeks because I don't think
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: they go in and out that door, but it's not
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: like their life was hurting without it.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: It sat there and got rained on and waterlogged and
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: just became a puddle of pulp and grossness. And I
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, they're really not going to be
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: upset when they find out. They're going to have to
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: get a snow shovel to scrape it up, but they're
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: not upset because nobody uses those anymore. Why are you
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: printing them?
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: As a child, I used to get so excited when
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: the new phone books came out.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: There's a joke for old people.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: And a while ago, as an adult, the phone book
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: arrived on my front porch. I looked at it and
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: just went inside the house. And left it there so
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: long that when I finally said, you know what, I
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: should probably bring that in, the next day a new
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: phone book arrived.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: So you are that guy.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: So part of me is wondering if they were waiting
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: until I took the old phone book in. I don't know.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: But either way, I got two new phone books in
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: the span of two days. I think I just threw
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: them both away.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: I don't get it. No. Ugh. But yeah, what? Just
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: all of these random things. Again, things that wouldn't be
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: okay in the real world. When they go to the
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: big game and they bring out, it's time for the cheerleaders!
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: And they just dump water on it. I'm like, wait,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: this is okay? You guys are, alright, whatever. Or the
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: freaking car wash where they're selling their underwear.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: I'm like.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: Wait, is this sanctioned by the school?
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: Now, to be fair with that last one, I've been
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: out of high school for a long time, so I
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: don't know what's acceptable as a fundraiser anymore.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's got to that point. That's
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: the other thing that I kind of wonder in general
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: that I am so far removed from. Because I watch...
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: Now they are making a lot of high school movies
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: for people of the high school age. And in them...
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: this is one of them with, with Walker writings, notwithstanding,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: they're just sort of accepted and everybody knows. And like
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: within the, cause again, you see the other guy that's
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: like the, the, the drama club kid that like, everybody's
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: like football guys are like, Hey, what's going on buddy?
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: And like, and I was like, that's awesome. And wait,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: does that happen? I was like, has the world changed?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: I know. I was like, ideally that is what we
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: want for the world. But I was like, has it
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: really been that long?
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: That's okay. You know, that's not the world. I grew
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: up in high school that, and I mean, not to
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: make a big deal of this, but yeah, you're a
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: few years ahead of me.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: But, uh, the high school that we went to, that
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: was not, I mean, when I see that movies and TVs,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: TV shows now where they have, they talk, the gay
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: kids talk about, Oh, we've got, yeah. For lack of
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: a better term, gay club. I, Or just the fact
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: that they're openly gay. I'm not trying to roughly bite
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: feathers with that. I just don't know what they call it. Yeah,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: just the fact that they're openly gay. I'm like, well,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: clearly that's going to become a plot point later. And
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: it's never brought up. And I hope it's because it's accepted. Yeah,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: because it should be normalized.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: But they're still like the decades ago version of my brain.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: that like way yeah like it still just doesn't fully
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: process because i'm like not when i go to the
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: like the reality of the world revolving around the football
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: team like no no oh i was there i was
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: in a fucking football heavy school and like The entire
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: school year revolved around football, and the team was like
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: their own little glorious group of people that kind of
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: did go by different rules than everybody else. And literally,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: to bring it up, on the... I'm trying to remember
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: what the reasoning, there were specific days where the team
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: could wear their jersey to class. Right. And like, there
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: was otherwise a pretty strict stress policy. But like, if
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: you're on the football team, nope, you could wear your
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: jersey and that was your uniform all day, wear it around.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, this is its own weird
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: little world too. So like, I definitely was not in
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: a world where it would have been okay to be
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: openly gay. Now, statistically speaking, it had to be going on.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: It had to be going on.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: There were plenty of guys there, so I'm sure many
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: of them were. But yeah, it's not something you would
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: have discussed for many reasons.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: With the advent of social media, I see tons of
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: classmates that I'm like, no kidding. Yeah, because... I would
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: have never gotten that impression from you for a lot
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: of reasons.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. Like I, I almost want to,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: cause I at least have family kids that are in
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: school now. So I kind of want to go, so
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: is it cool? Like, does everybody talk about it? Cause
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: I don't have a window into current day high school
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: kids and I'm fine with that. I was glad to
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: get away from it the first time, but that one,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: when I see it, like, In TV shows and movies now,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: it's usually pretty open, even if there's still hazing going on,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: which I'm sure there is.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: There always will be.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: Because people suck. Well, and now there's a whole new
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: level of you can not only just beat the hell
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: out of them physically, but you can go online and
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: do horrible things. So it is a whole extra level
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: that I didn't have to deal with, so I'm not
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: upset that I missed that either. But, yeah, I do
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: wonder how... how much and does it vary school to
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: school state to state I'm sure it varies quite a
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: bit depending on which areas you're in so yeah I
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: don't know all of that is interesting watching it in
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: this because it is so much so even though they're
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: still dorks and nobody likes them it's not because they're
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: gay like so like I like that part of this
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: world yeah they're like no they like that guy like
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: he's very openly gay everybody thinks.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: He's awesome we suck even when the principal calls the
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: the two ugly non-talented queers to.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: The office and i was like no no no none
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: of this is true except the queer part but you're
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: both adorable and super talented so let's be.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: Real like yeah.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: But yeah i that was and also interesting part of
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: it is just sort of seeing this on one hand
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: sort of realistic and on another like an alternate version
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: of certainly how i ever viewed anything so I'm kind
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: of curious how that goes these days. Not enough to
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: go to high school, though. Do not want to relive
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: those times.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: I don't want to. I mean, I suppose I could
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: get a job as the wise janitor at a high school.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: The guy who has to keep repainting their locker.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, that poor guy.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: I like that they just, by the second or third time,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: she's like, you know what to do. They don't even
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: talk about it anymore. She just points at it. You
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: know what to do. oh this movie's pretty awesome this
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: movie's great i.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: Say highly highly recommended the what little bit of uh
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: promotional material i saw that before the movie did not
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: prepare me at all no what i was getting.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: Into again i i knew i at least knew rachel
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: so like again i figured it was going to be
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: definitely you got the impression it was going to be
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: a little brutal and kind of foul mouth but again
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: that's kind of how she rolls i get that but
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: um yeah i did not pick up on the alternate
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: universe version of it well no clearly not nor the
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: uh the commentary that's going on so they just did
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of um quick shots of them beating the
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: hell out of each other in the trailer i feel
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: like yeah so i got a i got a good
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: amount of that that i'm like well i'm assuming there's
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: gonna be some some punching and many types of brutalities
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: going on. So much. I do like that very first
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: shot of like, oh, I can hit you. It just
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: nails her. And the whole rest of the movie, she
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: still has the like, it continues to like downgrade a little.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: But even that last scene, she's still got black eyes.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: I love that. All of these girls had nasty bruises
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: and cuts.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: Which usually is a good thing as far as I'm concerned.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: Any girl with a scar is like, oh, I'm on
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: board with this chick. I do like that the cheerleaders
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: were walking around a little cocky because they'd kick somebody's ass.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, good for you.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: Well, that was the thing, too. It wasn't just the
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: nerdy outcast girls. It was you had the cheerleaders. You
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: had the brainiacs. You had the losers. You had the
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: psycho with the, I'm going to kill my stepdad.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: Which.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: And whatever category Hazel fits into.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. She is her own crazy person. But yeah,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: because I so didn't expect it coming from Kill My
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: Stepdad Girl, because she's the most stoner of the group. Right. Like,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: she's coming in going, well, obviously she's going to play
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: that character.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: I was like, again, just mixing it up. Like, just
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: when you think you've got a handle on these crazy characters. Nope.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: She is definitely a little different than I expected. Oh, yeah.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 6: Ugh.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: But yeah, by the time you get to the finale, like,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: but I mean, the least crazy thing is that they've
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: loaded up the sprinklers with pineapple juice. That is like
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: would be ridiculous and over the top in a different movie.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: In this movie, by the time they're just a bloodbath,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: they beat the hell out of the other team. So
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: much so.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: That they're murdering. Well, even her comment of, no, I
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: didn't kill him.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: No, that guy right there. You killed that guy. Like, oh.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: She runs him through with a goddamn sword.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: She's like, I'm pretty sure you killed that guy. I
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: was like, once again, they're taking this very alternate universe casual.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: There are no cops that show up. No one faces
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: any repercussions for all the murder.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: There's no fuss from the stands. Yeah, they just.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: Well, and also, like, the other side just flat out
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: didn't show. Yeah. They're like, well, they're murdering somebody, so
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: we're staying home. Like, just an entire empty stadium. Yeah.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: Except for the idiots on their side.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: Insanity.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: I did think it was funny before we got to
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: that one that like the mascot that was on the
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: posters did have a sword I was like I feel
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: like now they probably would I mean some of the
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: older ones but again over the years they've gotten in
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: trouble for all of the older mascots so I'm like
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: I feel like even now if you were a cavalier
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: they'd probably take the sword out of his hand like
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: they'd safe make it a little safer and he'd just
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: hold a shield all the time yeah So the fact
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: that this Viking dog or whatever it was.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember what the mascots were.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: I thought it was Vikings.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: It was Vikings.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: Because there is a poster that's like, get horny. I
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: was like, once again, alternate universe. I hope somebody in
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: a real school would have problems with that. Probably not
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: at this point.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: But yeah, they were Vikings. But for some reason, it
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: was a dog? I don't know. But yeah, I was like, oh, well,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: that sword came into play eventually.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: I think it was the Vikings and the golden ferrets.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: The golden ferrets. I do like as they came striding
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: on the field, I was like, well, golden ferrets. That's special.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: Even just, I'm trying to remember, is this in the
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: movie or just my life? Because as I was writing
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: some random stuff down, it also says, As I've gotten older,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: it's just gotten more sad.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, actually, that could just be me.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's something that one of them said.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: I hope so.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: I also feel like that's, I mean, that definitely is
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: my status, but.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: It might have been something Mr. G said.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's, yeah, I feel like it ties
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: into the plot as we get to the end of
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: it there. But I also was just like, no, that
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: was just me yesterday.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: That's true about everything at this point. The more I
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: think about it, it's all gotten more sad. Except when
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: watching this movie. I'm pretty thrilled with this movie.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. I don't have a rating system in
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: place to rank it.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: I usually don't go for those anyway.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: It would get most of the whatevers out of however
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: many it's allowed.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: Definitely. And again, for a Modern era comedy that I
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: rarely seek out anymore because most of them are really dumb.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: There's a few other ones lately I've heard decent things about.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: So that is what brought me to this. I had
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: several people that I've seen online that I... normally would
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: be a little more willing to listen to their opinion.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: And then there was at least one show that I
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: was listening to that they put it on their top
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: ten for the year. Oh, really? Which I was like,
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: for a comedy period, when normally it's nothing but your
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: Oscar bait kind of shows, like movies. And I'm just like,
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: the fact that a comedy... Let alone this, what I
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: know of it as a silly, brutal comedy. And I
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: was like, that says something about it. So I definitely
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: want to seek this out. So yeah, that is another reason.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, we definitely need to watch this.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: Well, I just saw on Wikipedia that it actually turned
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: a profit.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: Which is, again, an important thing when trying to get
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: films made by women.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. It is. If nothing else that came out
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: of Barbie is like, well, now they'll at least let some.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: Because if it would have tanked, it's so impossible to
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: get something through as a female director anyway, or writer,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: or actress that's fronting a movie anymore. It's such a
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: fight that like... I really.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: Thought that Wonder Woman would change all that. That we
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: would see just like a slew of really good, not
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: that women can't make good movies, but traditionally they haven't
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: been allowed to make them.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not given before. Chance the fucking Dean, yeah.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: Because before, if you weren't Penny Marshall, you weren't making
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: a blockbuster movie.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: And even then, she knocked out several big ones and
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: then a bunch of other ones nobody even remembers.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, that was the first person I could think of.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, there's been a handful that have broken
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: through and had some decent-sized budgets and brought in good actors,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: but it's pretty minimal still.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But I really did think Wonder Woman was going
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: to change that.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: It didn't help. 1984. Did you watch that one?
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I have some issues.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: No problems with the direction.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's her fault though.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: Mostly the writing which I think she was still involved with.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: But directing wise it still looked good. In fact it
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: was a whole different type of sparkly. It was 1984 sparkly.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: Very cool in it's datedness. Kind of trying to do
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: a retro thing.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: Just too much going on.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: And it crosses a major line that no one should
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: be okay with. I don't know. That was just weird.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: But this was a quality movie from start to finish.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: I hope to see more from everybody involved.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: Definitely. I liked all the performances. And again... should have
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: already been on top of at least one of the
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: other actors. I I've always liked what I've seen of Rachel.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: So it's like the rest of these, I just kind
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: of want to go back and find, and especially this,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: I know Shiva baby got pretty good reviews. So I
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: want to watch that still. I just hadn't gotten around
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: to it.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: Same here.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: But, um, again, I kind of hope this opens that
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: door even more. And like, she gets a chance to
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: write and direct, um, You know, more stuff... Again, this
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: one I feel like is so heavy with... Well, I mean,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: she worked with Rachel in her last movie, too. So, like,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: maybe she's always going to work with her. But, like,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's so much of her just character
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: that comes through as a writer, as a person, that, like,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: it transfers over onto her character and the movie as
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: a whole. So I don't know if she... How different
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: it would be to just kind of hand her a
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: separate movie or let her write a movie without her.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: Well, what I would like this... to be is um
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: i can't think of a good example to compare this
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: to but every now and then you get that that
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: person who becomes that serious auteur the one that everybody's
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: like yeah and and they can say oh yeah but
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: look at this goofy thing i made decades ago or
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: whatever and whether she stays in comedy or doesn't whatever
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's her decision.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: I think it would be okay to... Because again, I
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: feel like it's rare that you even have a comedy
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: auteur get a Carl Reiner that in his day made
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: some of the greatest comedies ever. Again, he's another one
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: that later did some weird questionable stuff that nobody paid
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: attention to. But half of it still made money, really.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: It's like stuff you didn't even know he directed. He
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: made tons of money at the box office and you're like, wait,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: that was Carl Reiner? So... He is one of those
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: that could put a stamp on it and do comedy
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: and yet still kind of... I mean, as much as
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: auteur gets thrown around with comedies, it's pretty rare, actually. But, yeah,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: I think it's okay to get somebody that wants to
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: do comedy and still give them that freedom and chance
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: to do a series of movies like you do with
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: an auteur. Like you do with... Oh, man, I love Fincher. Oh, yeah.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: I like that moment of just a random tie in
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: that like, yeah, it's attached and has nothing to do
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: with what's about to happen. Except everybody's going to get
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: beat the hell out of them. Oh yeah. But yeah,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: you get, you know, those, those kind of directors always
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: kind of get the push and the chance to do
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: whatever they want. But yeah, I'd like to see.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: That's a much more eloquent way to say.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'd like to see more comedy people get a
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: chance to follow through.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: And, become almost an auteur of comedy, but again, it's rare.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: Or if so, it's usually not good. Once again, I
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: come back to, I don't like a lot of modern
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: comedy stuff.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: Or just give me three or four more movies that
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: were this well written and performed and.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: This well put together.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: All right. Anything else we need to address on this
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: one other than it's pretty awesome.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: Pretty awesome. Uh, No, that's all I have to say
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: on it. You know, I feel like even the sort
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: of person who normally, to some degree, wouldn't want to
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: watch this sort of movie because they would afraid it
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: would be preachy, I still feel like even they could
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: enjoy it.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it never crosses that line.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: Preachy was in quotes, by the way.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because there definitely are, and there have even
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: been ones in recent years I've listened to. In particular,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: there was one that, like, just rub this one guy
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: the wrong way. And like, it is, it was a
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: queer made movie and it had a star that was
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: very openly gay and just, that wasn't the problem. It
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: was a bad movie. Right. And like, that's what pissed
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: him off. And so like, It's like one of those
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: like I want there to be one that's the other
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: hand that like doesn't need to be preachy. It's just
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: well written. And that's why you're there. And if it's
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: normalizing the fact that these women are empowered or that
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: they're gay or that. everyone's openly gay. Like all of
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: these things don't need to be the gimmick of the movie. Right.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: It's just part of the story they're telling. I'm like,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: that's how it needs to be.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: I think this was the way it should be. And yeah,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: this was pretty, this did a pretty good job of that.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I liked that.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: I do think there were a couple of, and we've
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: talked about them a little bit. There were a couple
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: of clunky bits here and there, but not because of
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: gender or, uh, sexuality, not because of any of that,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: just as a... It seemed like a really good attempt
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: by a not super experienced filmmaker.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: Again, I feel like there's a good amount of probably
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  Speaker 1: allowing people to throw out extra lines along the way.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe that takes away from worrying about the super
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  Speaker 1: nailed down overarching screenplay when You're equally as invested in, oh,
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  Speaker 1: let's just try it this way today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So in a way, sometimes you get the most amazing
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: scenes from doing that. Other times, maybe it takes away
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: from you worrying about the details as much.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a mixed bag, so.
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  Speaker 2: I guess what I'm saying is that it flowed well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 1: And it was, again, it seems like they knew the
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  Speaker 1: rule of like, don't do a two and a half
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  Speaker 1: hour comedy. Like, which they do. So, you know, it's like,
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  Speaker 1: if you know what you're doing, do it well. And like,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: just get in and out, tell your jokes, hit them
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: every step of the way. And then when you're done
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: with your story, you're done and like wrap it up.
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  Speaker 1: So I think keeping a tight comedy is like a
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: really important part of it being a comedy. Right. I
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: think that's kind of key that they figured out. And like,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't overstay any of it, even as it gets weirder.
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  Speaker 1: And like, they could have gone down a few more
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: avenues of like, well, what's going on over there? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes we just touch on it and move along. What's
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: up with her mom? And why is she sleeping with
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: this weird high school kid?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, Nope.
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  Speaker 1: We're just like, well, that was weird anyway. No wonder
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: she's all pissed off.
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  Speaker 2: No, it takes a, to write something like that, I
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: would think would take a great amount of restraint because you,
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  Speaker 2: you touch on it. You don't, you touch on it
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: just enough that we get a taste of what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: And then you move on to the next thing. You
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: don't dwell on it.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: Which again, I think is the trap that some of
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: the other, and maybe it is the directors that have
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: been around for a while and nobody tells them no.
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  Speaker 1: So that you're making a Judd Apatow, two and a
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  Speaker 1: half hour, three hour comedy. Sometimes it's like, You are,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: you know, people are letting you go too far with
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: your like, nobody says no. So like, oh, no, keep rolling.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: Keep going. Yeah, let's go down this road and see
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: what's going on with this character. I'm like, oh, and another.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: movie maybe not not now because we've already been here
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: for two hours what are you doing so yeah i
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: think it's it's finding that balance of like specifically in
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: a comedy like keeping it tight keeping it moving just
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: being funny like they they hit all of that on
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: this one so oh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah i agree quite enjoyable Would recommend.
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  Speaker 1: Well, normally. Now, see, this is where things might be different.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: Because if you're just one of those regular people, then
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: you're probably not used to this point when we would
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: normally come up with what the next movie is. But
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: since we're not doing horror this time, I don't have
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: to roll the die. This is how we normally do
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: it in our super cool horror club. So, it is
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: a good chance to tell you what's coming up and
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: to let you know that. is what we do, and
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: why you should be involved. So in case you're not
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: part of that crew, if you want to know and
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: start planning, next time we're back probably with that Nora
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: person who's maybe back. I don't know. She might just
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: stay there.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: You know, after today, I don't think we need her.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: We were sent a photo from some tropical paradise that
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't come back if I were her.
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I wouldn't have gone there in the first place.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: We'll see if she comes back. If she does, she
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: will join us for the next Horror Club where we
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: will watch Alice, Sweet Alice, which I am kind of
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: looking forward to.
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  Speaker 2: Looking forward to.
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  Speaker 1: And I didn't want to steal it away from Nora.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: So that's why we threw in this in between. And
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of glad we did because otherwise I might
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: not have gotten to bottoms right away.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was fun.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: I like this as an extra little in between.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: And I was joking. I do miss Nora, but I
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: feel like we survived without her.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: I would like to hear her take on it.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like when Aunt Bea went to her
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: sister's house. We made it through.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: Maybe she will watch it and she can like, normally
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: we do horror at the top of the show, but
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: maybe we can get her take on Bottoms as a
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: little sneak peek in the intro in the upcoming episodes.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: We'll see. In the meantime, you should join the Meltdown
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: Horror Club and then you can hear us talk about Alice,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: Sweet Alice, which is going to be awesome. So, Go
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: do that now.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: Do it right now.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: Right now. Because we're almost done, so you're going to
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: have to wait until the show's over.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: Just pause. Go sign up for it. Come back and
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: you'll hear us say, otherwise that about does it. We
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: will return next time, same geek feed.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for listening. Bye.
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  Speaker 4: Turn around.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 6: Every now and then I get a little bit lonely
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 6: And you're never coming round Turn around Every now and
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 6: then I get a little bit tired Of listening.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 5: To the sound of my tears.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 4: Turn around Every now and then I get a little
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 4: bit nervous.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 5: That the best of all the years have gone.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 4: By Turn around Every now and then I get a
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 4: little bit terrified And then I see the light Every
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 4: now and then I fall apart All of the time.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know what to do.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: I'm always.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 4: In the dark. I really need you tonight.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 5: There's nothing I can do, a total eclipse of the heart.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 6: Turn around Every now and then I get a little
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 6: bit restless And.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: I dream of something wild Turn around.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 4: Every now and then I get a little.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 5: Bit helpless And I'm lying like a child in your
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 5: arms Turn around.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 4: Every now and then I get a little bit angry.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: And I know I've got to get.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 4: Down and try Every now and then I get a
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 4: little bit terrified But then I see the look in
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 4: your eyes Every now and then I You can take
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 4: it to the end of the line Your love is
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: like a shadow on me all of the.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 5: Time Once upon a time I was falling in love
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 5: Now I'm only falling apart There's nothing I can do,
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 5: a total eclipse of the heart. Nothing I can say,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 5: a total eclipse of the heart.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: When I say dumb, yeah, I would have enjoyed it.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of comedies that I
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: would refer to as dumb comedies. I don't with this one. But, like, again,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: I don't say it's a bad thing all of the time. Right. But.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: On the surface, I feel like this is a dumb comedy.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: This presents itself. Again, the trailer kind of makes it
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: look like a dumb comedy.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: But it had a surprisingly large amount of layers to it.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's way smarter than... Again, it's almost so smart
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: about how it's doing it that it's using that. Like
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: it's toying with you of like, look at this dumb comedy.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: And then like, oh, along the way, guess what? We
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: worked in all this other stuff that maybe you weren't
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: even picking up on because you were sucked in by
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: the dumb comedy and they punch each other in the
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: face a lot. But along the way, guess what? There's
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: other smarter stuff that we've worked into the screenplay. So, haha,
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: joke's on you. You got a better movie than you
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: even thought you were going to get.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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