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Werewolves vs. the Hounds of God, Lycaon, the Werewolf Trials & Ohio Dogman · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 2: on this episode, we have Mike Turnacosta here to discuss
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  Speaker 2: his latest field expeditions on the hunt for dogmen. and
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  Speaker 2: strange cryptids in Ohio. We're going to explore cases today
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  Speaker 2: of werewolves who claim to work for God. And the
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  Speaker 2: history of the infamous werewolf trials of the late 1500s
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  Speaker 2: werewolf and the possibility that not all werewolves are from hell.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Mike investigates some incredible research areas in northeast Ohio.
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  Speaker 2: him over on his YouTube channel, MT Paranormal Life. You guys,
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  Speaker 2: please help me welcome to the show, MT himself, Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Ternacasa.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Mike. Hello.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, welcome in.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for being here.
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  Speaker 1: No problem. Always a good time when we have a
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  Speaker 2: It is, man. I really enjoyed watching you doing your
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  Speaker 2: live streams out in Northeast Ohio. What's new? What's been
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  Speaker 2: going on with you?
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  Speaker 1: Well, we just had a full moon cycle that just
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  Speaker 1: started the 26th and it's already over, but it came
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  Speaker 1: and went and I was out trying to collect some data.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of the things over the years I never
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  Speaker 1: really compared, you know, I was kind of curious to
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  Speaker 1: why certain things happen. What's the connection between, why things
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  Speaker 1: happen certain times. And it was hard to guess, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to what it was. And one of the things I
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  Speaker 1: never looked at was the actual moon cycles. And, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my friend, uh, David Wolf, um, I know he's,
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  Speaker 1: he monitors some of the full moon cycles. And then
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  Speaker 1: I thought, you know what? I'm like, that's something that
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to pay attention to more often now. And, um, his,
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  Speaker 1: he had, he had a dog man sighting. got one
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  Speaker 1: in the photograph and it was during a full moon
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  Speaker 1: cycle as well. So I was like, that's something that
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  Speaker 1: I'm definitely going to be paying attention to now on
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  Speaker 1: is documented in the cycle. Uh, the moon is whenever
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  Speaker 1: activity happens.
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  Speaker 2: Man, that's fantastic. You know, the moon was still big
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  Speaker 2: this morning. Uh, when I, when I took my son
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  Speaker 2: to school this morning, it was bright and shiny. And
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  Speaker 2: I was thinking, man, that's what the full moon was.
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 2: Two days ago or a day ago.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. it started 12, 10 AM on the 26th and
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  Speaker 1: it was supposed to last three days. So I guess
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  Speaker 1: technically it's still right at towards the end of it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And last night too, I was out driving around last night,
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  Speaker 2: had some errands to run and it was big last
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  Speaker 2: night too. And I was thinking, man, that's been a
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  Speaker 2: full moon for like five days now. It feels like so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's real big and bright leading up to it. Like,
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  Speaker 1: The days leading up to it, it just gets bigger
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  Speaker 1: and bigger and brighter and brighter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was wondering if it was like a super
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  Speaker 2: moon or something because it was so bright. But what
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  Speaker 2: did you discover? Do you think that there's more cryptids
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  Speaker 2: coming out when the full moon is? Because I've got
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  Speaker 2: my experience with it, too. So do you think there
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  Speaker 2: was more activity or less under the full moon?
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  Speaker 1: Well, Monday night, we didn't really run into a lot,
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  Speaker 1: I guess you could say, that at least we've seen.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we did hear some strange vocalizations and some
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  Speaker 1: other strange sounds. And I got some screenshots that some
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  Speaker 1: of the subscribers sent me that looked like there were
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  Speaker 1: things in the background, you know. But it was quiet.
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  Speaker 1: And that was even kind of a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: on the scary side because if you see screenshots and
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  Speaker 1: you see what looks like some kind of a cryptid
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  Speaker 1: watching and everything was that quiet and you really didn't
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  Speaker 1: get any clue, but they were there. It's kind of like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, gives you a realization that they're there and
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  Speaker 1: you won't even know it, you know, so you could
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  Speaker 1: take that as, you know, either more of a reason
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  Speaker 1: to keep going or maybe scare you away from it. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: you're muted.
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  Speaker 2: I was muted. I was muted. My dog was back
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  Speaker 2: there making noise. So through my experience, I've kind of
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  Speaker 2: come to learn that in my case, we get more
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  Speaker 2: activity when there's a new moon cycle, when there's not
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  Speaker 2: a whole lot of moonlight out there. Now, I think
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  Speaker 2: it's because they're hiding now. That doesn't mean that that's
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  Speaker 2: always the case for everybody. But it's just been my case.
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  Speaker 2: It seems as though we get more activity when it's
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  Speaker 2: pitch black out there and there's no, you know, they
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  Speaker 2: can hide better, I guess. That's what I think.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's going to be on my... That's going to
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  Speaker 1: be in my documentation of things now. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: be monitoring moon cycles and compare to the activity and
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  Speaker 1: things that I encounter.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, that's a good idea. What about paranormal? We're
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  Speaker 2: talking about cryptids and stuff. What about the paranormal? Does
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  Speaker 2: that ramp up under a full moon or a Halloween?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean... that's a tough one. I really, I
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  Speaker 1: really don't know. Cause I haven't really been watching that. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't been paying attention to the moon cycles whenever
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  Speaker 1: I would investigate. It was just kind of like random
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  Speaker 1: times or scheduled times, but it wasn't based on anything like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, on full moon cycles and things like that. But, um,
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  Speaker 1: so that's going to be something that I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: have to start documenting on the regular now. Um, But
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  Speaker 1: when I've been out lately, I've been capturing EVPs when
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  Speaker 1: I'm out. Almost every time I've gone out, I've captured
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  Speaker 1: strange disembodied voice phenomenon that we heard. And then there
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  Speaker 1: were some that were just not heard at the time,
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  Speaker 1: but I picked them up. So it seems like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that EVPs still will come out of nowhere. And it
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  Speaker 1: seems like it happens regularly.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's cool. Do you have anything coming up for Halloween?
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  Speaker 2: Are you going to do a special or anything this weekend?
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  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we're working on something for Halloween. I would
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  Speaker 1: like to do a live. It's just... We're hoping the
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  Speaker 1: place or two we're going to go to isn't too
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  Speaker 1: crazy with people trying to get there. So hopefully it
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  Speaker 1: works out and hopefully I'll be live on Halloween. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we'll be doing something on Halloween.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, sweet. Well, the veil is the thinnest on Halloween, Mike,
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  Speaker 2: is what they say.
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  Speaker 1: What's that?
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  Speaker 2: The veil is the thinnest on Halloween, right? So there
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  Speaker 2: should be... a little more ramp up maybe of some
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  Speaker 2: of the activity out there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm, I'm excited. You're going to be out in the field.
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  Speaker 2: You'll be streaming live. Okay. Well, wonderful. Wonderful.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We've got, I've got actually a buddy of mine that's
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  Speaker 2: coming on from Tennessee and he's had multiple dogman encounters.
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  Speaker 2: He had one on Sunday and has pictures of the
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  Speaker 2: dogman that he's going to show us on Saturday. So sweet.
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  Speaker 2: So that's going to be fun too. So we're going,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to have a night full of Halloween stuff, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Come see us on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Both of us. But well, that's, that's great. You guys
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  Speaker 2: are getting a lot of activity and you're, you're going
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  Speaker 2: out in the field with other teams as well.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And so those are, I watched a video, a couple
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  Speaker 2: of videos of some of those guys you've been out
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  Speaker 2: there with that have done some really good interviews. What
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  Speaker 2: was that one guy's name? You said that has the,
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  Speaker 2: I think he's behind you, your head. Dave. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Dave from exposing the strange.
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  Speaker 2: Exposing the strange.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: That's a great YouTube channel. I went and checked out
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  Speaker 2: some of his videos.
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  Speaker 1: Good stuff. It's, it's really, um, I like the format
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  Speaker 1: and also while he's, you know, talking, interviewing and getting
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  Speaker 1: firsthand accounts and having the location shown, you know, they
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  Speaker 1: show where it happened and explain it. Um, they, uh, he,
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  Speaker 1: he also gets the ability to, um, work with them
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  Speaker 1: to investigate their locations for an actual investigation, not just
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  Speaker 1: an interview. And, you know, it's like builds a network
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  Speaker 1: of places that, you know, you can investigate. Granted that
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  Speaker 1: they give you permission to, which seems like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of them are interested in the evidence and they let
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  Speaker 1: you do it. So that was kind of exciting. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I reached out to him about my West branch encounters and,
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  Speaker 1: And he did an interview with me. I think he
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  Speaker 1: just released that video earlier this week. And that's how
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  Speaker 1: I met him. And then he joined me for a
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  Speaker 1: live stream that night. And then we got together. We've
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  Speaker 1: done some filming recently around Cuyahoga Forest, Cuyahoga Valley National Forest.
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  Speaker 1: And that's where he had a dogman sighting was there
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  Speaker 1: and a photograph of the two of one. In Ohio,
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  Speaker 1: Ohio seems to have quite a bit of dog men,
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  Speaker 1: specifically sightings. Like since I've been watching the interviews of
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  Speaker 1: some of the people from Ohio, it's opened my eyes
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  Speaker 1: to how many encounters that people have been having with
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  Speaker 1: dog men around Ohio.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 2: It's wild. I had Colleen, now Colleen Norris was on
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  Speaker 2: the show, but that's not her last name now. She
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  Speaker 2: changed her last name.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't, I forgot her new last name, but Colleen,
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  Speaker 2: she was the Colleen Norris when she came on the show.
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  Speaker 2: She is the lady that had that video of the
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  Speaker 2: grave digging dog man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: From, I guess it was Akron. I think it was
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  Speaker 2: Akron where that was. And so, yeah, she's a longtime
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  Speaker 2: Bigfoot field researcher, by the way. Bigfoot. She was getting
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of dog man investigations to go on and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know. I mean, dog men are kind
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  Speaker 2: of taken over. They're kind of taken over the block
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  Speaker 2: right now, I think. when it comes to the Bigfoot research.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like there's just so many in Ohio, especially
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  Speaker 1: there's so many reports, like so many firsthand accounts of
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  Speaker 1: the dogmen sightings that got my interest. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've been, that's why once I saw we had this
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  Speaker 1: new full moon, I was kind of excited, wanted to
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  Speaker 1: see if, if there was something to, to that and
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  Speaker 1: see if maybe I'd capture some evidence when I was
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  Speaker 1: out Monday night. But that's something now that I'm definitely
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  Speaker 1: going to be spending a lot more time. You know,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully I go some other places where others have had
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  Speaker 1: sightings or I'll be going back to Cuyahoga Forest. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be focusing on more dogman related evidence
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  Speaker 1: to see if I notice it with like tracks and vocals.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Along with everything else.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. Well, you had to come back. give
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  Speaker 2: us an update. You always do. So come and give
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  Speaker 2: us an update. And yeah, I can't wait to hear
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  Speaker 2: about that. You know, I'll tell you something. I never
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  Speaker 2: pass up an invitation to go on someone's property when
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: they have, I've got two open invites right now and
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  Speaker 2: I'm going, okay. A couple of friends of mine, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to say who they are. I'll tell y'all
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  Speaker 2: when I get back.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: But, but I've got two open invites to people that
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  Speaker 2: I know that are good friends of mine, actually, who
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  Speaker 2: have some massive, very intense dogman activity and Bigfoot activity
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  Speaker 2: on their property and pale crawlers and all that. It's like,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know what's going on in these areas,
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: but there are definitely one of, one of the places
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  Speaker 2: is deep in the Appalachians in the mountains. And the
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  Speaker 2: other one is just in the woods, way deep in
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  Speaker 2: the woods. And, uh, yes, I'm going, I'm going. I
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  Speaker 2: feel the same way.
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  Speaker 1: Um, I shared, I dropped something in the share, um,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: I thought you might be interested in seeing this. Um, that's,
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  Speaker 1: that's Carrie, um, on the left, her and her husband.
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  Speaker 1: And I met her Friday night, um, when Dave did
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  Speaker 1: a live stream and she gave me some really good
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  Speaker 1: information about some of the things that she noticed that
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  Speaker 1: the dog men did on her property. Um, she showed
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  Speaker 1: pictures to me and talked about the structures that they
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  Speaker 1: build and they build the, um, they, they use very flexible.
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  Speaker 1: branches and things and, and they weave things and they
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  Speaker 1: usually leave them on the ground or they'll be suspended. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and she's claims that that's what the dog men do
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  Speaker 1: on her property. And it was, um, it was very
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  Speaker 1: interesting to learn some of that. And, um, and then
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  Speaker 1: this is, um, there's a little clip from here, which
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Dave will mind me showing. This is
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  Speaker 1: from exposing the strange from Dave's website. And this is
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  Speaker 1: the photographs from their trail cam.
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  Speaker 3: And so, I had the trail camera on that kind of,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why I had it pointed that way.
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  Speaker 3: I'd just randomly been pointing it in different directions. But
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  Speaker 3: the picture, the first picture I had, I almost deleted
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  Speaker 3: because I didn't really know it was really anything. And
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  Speaker 3: it showed like these two, I want to say eyes.
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  Speaker 3: There were two eyes up on top. And my husband
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  Speaker 3: was coming and putting the chickens up. So he was
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  Speaker 3: like walking next to it.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: So he put the chickens up. And then the next
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  Speaker 3: picture was really what caught my eye because it made
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  Speaker 3: me realize, hey, we've got something here. And you could
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  Speaker 3: tell that when he walked away. So you can see
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  Speaker 3: him in the picture. You can see him walking away
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  Speaker 3: from where he was just at. And whatever it was,
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  Speaker 3: the eyes that were watching him from on top of
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: the chicken coop. all of a sudden had lifted their
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: heads up like they were watching him walk away.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: So the first.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Picture is of the creature or whatever it is kind
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: of hunkering down like, oh no, here he comes. And
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: then the next one was it picking up its head
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: and watching him walk away. And that really scared me
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: because he was literally within inches of this thing. So
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: I tried to get him to look at the pictures
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: and at first he wouldn't look.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I, um, she's been dealing with them
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: on the property for a long time and still, they're
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: still active on her property. And she showed me some
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: pictures of the things she said that they were making there.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: They were making these intricate weaving type of structures that were, um,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: were different than like building teepees. They were like, um,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: from large to small, um, weave together, um, just like
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: ground shapes and structures are pretty interesting. Now I know
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: to kind of keep my eye peeled to see if
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I see something like that, which we did find out
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: that night. We found one that seemed to be weaved together.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: It was on the ground and it had a bunch
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: of flexible branches together. It was pretty interesting.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Now, was that thing on top of the shed or
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: was it peeking over the shed from the standing up?
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: It looked like it was on it, But it's hard
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: to really tell. from that, you know. That's hard to
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: tell if it's really close to it. Like, I don't know,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: this might even be like one of its arms here, hand.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: But it kind of looks like that's after he walked
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: away from it. That was when he walks up. It
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: looks like it's really low to it.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: It does.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: That's really interesting to see.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: You know, in my experience, this is my experience, that
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: looks like Bigfoot eyes to me. Now, it might not be.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: It's just the way that they are. Like, from all
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: the Bigfoots that I've seen, that looks more like a Bigfoot, like,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: standing up really, like, standing on the ground and peeking
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: over the thing. But, I mean, it's up to, you know,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: whatever they say. But to me, it kind of looks
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: like a Bigfoot. But it could be a Dogman, too.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That's wild. Those are great captures, actually.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: You can see the person walking and their body in movement.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: And you can see how the head moved. It tilted
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: its head. It's different.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, like once he got that close, it looks
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: like it's down lower. And then as soon as he
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: walks away, like they said, as soon as he walked
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: away from it, it came up. Oh, my gosh.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Have they had visuals of what's out there? Like have
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: they seen a dogman or a Bigfoot?
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she, she has more so than anybody else from
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: what she told me. She, she has, and they've got
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: dogs and her, when, when I just spoke to her
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: on Friday, their dog had an encounter and got hurt
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: a little bit from one. That's what she said. So
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: she's nervous there. She said she's nervous there because of,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: you know, she's not sure how that perceives her dogs
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: and she's worried that her dogs are going to get hurt.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, well at least it has not hurt her dogs yet.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: So that's good. Um, hopefully it won't, if it hadn't already,
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? But, uh, I don't know.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: That's a little creepy, isn't it? I wouldn't want that
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: in my backyard or maybe I would, I don't know.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I've got, I've got something here. Um, This right here
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: was really amazing to see. I'm going to share this
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: one with you too. This is like, as I've been
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: catching some of these photos and listening to the testimony
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: and even talking to like Carrie about hers. And then
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I look at this, look at this. Have you ever
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: seen this photo?
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Is that an old picture? Cause I feel like I've
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: seen that. I remember seeing that. I thought that somebody
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: said that was from a film or something. Maybe not.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I do remember seeing that, though. From the interview with him,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Richard McCandlish. Okay. He's part of the Ohio Cryptid Research
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Team that Dave's part of.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: He said this was his photograph that he took. Oh.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: He interviewed him and talked to him about his Dogman sightings.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: But this was a photo that he took.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's cool. Yeah, I remember seeing a picture similar
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: to that. And maybe I'm getting it confused because somebody
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, that's from a movie or something. I
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: think the NADP had pictures like that up on their website.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: But that's cool. I mean, that's still cool. Wait, so
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: you know the guy that actually took it, Richard?
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Dave knows who he is.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, cool.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: He's in a few videos that Dave did talking to
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: him about his experiences. This one was over at Hawking Hills.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Over here in Northeast Ohio here is where he took
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: that photograph and where he had a lot of his
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: encounters with dog men was over in Hawking Hills in Ohio.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: That one looks kind of small, doesn't it? It doesn't
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: look like it's huge.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: It's hard to tell, too, because the background, I can't
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: see its legs. It is.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Now, you guys, these are all property of exposing the
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: strange here. Okay, so I want to give them credit.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: uh just for fair use purposes and stuff like that.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah i don't think dave will mind getting some extra
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: exposure showing some.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Of his videos yeah shout out to dave y'all go
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: subscribe to exposing the strange on youtube okay and uh
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: and give give dave some support over there oh because
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: that's really cool yeah look i'm always down for some
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: dog man evidence man that's cool that's cool we got
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: some great comments here too gene what's up gene hudson
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: she says Jessica, the dogman will tilt their head to
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: the side just like regular dogs. Looks like it's tilting
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: the head and thinking, to me, then it perks as
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: it thinks it can't be seen because he was walking away. Yeah,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: perks up. You know, Mike, we actually covered on Monday
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the UFO files released with the Pentagon that actually included
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: a whole cache, a cachet or cache, whatever you want
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: to call it, on Skinwalker Ranch. And they were to me, listen,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: to me, this is a step forward in the disclosure
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: of dog men and skinwalkers. Actually the S S Walker word, uh,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: they were, uh, they actually take eyewitness for reports and
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: testimony about, uh, bipedal dog, dog-like creatures and stuff in there.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: And this is something the government released. And I just thought,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: I thought it was amazing. I'm excited about that. Um,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: it doesn't, they're not proving they're real. They're saying they
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: investigated them though. So, There's that. And I don't know.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying these things go way, way back in time.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: And there becomes an argument like what's the difference between
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: a dogman and a werewolf? Werewolves are shapeshifters. Dogmen are not.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: That kind of a thing. Well, today I wanted to
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: talk to the audience a little bit about the very
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: first dogman or dogman. I'm going to say the very
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: first werewolf, allegedly. And I'm going to get into a
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: little bit of let's see. what's called the hounds of God.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Because Mike, you and I both know, listen, we would
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: have been torn to shreds if all dog men are evil, right?
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: And they wanted us all dead. You and I wouldn't
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: be here right now. I don't think. So I don't
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: think they're all bad. What do you think?
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Well, I think out of the ones I've heard descriptions
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: of and listened to some accounts, they're the ones that
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I think I'd be a little bit more on edge
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: about because, It almost seems like if there's a chance
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: that one of the cryptids that we talk about or
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: investigate or have seen that might have the potential to
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: cause you harm, it would probably be that. It would
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: be a dog man, I think.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Yes. I think so, too. Well, you know what? Some
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: people say no matter what, Bigfoot's always the king of
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: the jungle. They're the biggest. And they will pop your
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: head off your shoulders. They can squash your head like
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: a grape. y'all, okay, doing like that, you know, I
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: don't know if y'all ever did that when y'all were young,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I'm swishing your head in, but they can actually do that, okay, and,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: but it does seem as though they are, I want
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: to say romanticized, that's not the right word, probably, but
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: kind of like dogmen are like romanticized being like the
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: crazy killers, okay, the ones that are, because we think
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: about dogs that are so violent, right, like dog fights
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: and things like that, and and how they're so like
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: savagely attacking people and stuff. And so that's, that's what
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: we get. And I think the core story that people
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: hear about is the massacre at the land between the
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: lakes of the family back in 1982. That is, I
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: believe that really happened, but, but really we just have
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of eyewitnesses and hearsay on that and no
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: hardcore evidence on that. Okay. But however, a lot of
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: people do believe that happened. And that's the main story
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: people hear about a lot of times when they talk
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: about dogmen. Okay. But, well, let's go back to some
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: of the oldest werewolves. Okay. And I think that this is,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I've never covered this before on my show. I'm shocked
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: that I haven't. Let me pull up this. Let's see.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: The legend of King Lycaon. Lycaon? I can never pronounce
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: these things. It sounds like lycanthropy. I guess that's the
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: root word of it. And let's just pull this up.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: And actually, you know what? I have a picture. And
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: this is going to go with the story I'm about
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: to tell you guys. Right here. And let's see. Okay,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: so around 430 BC, a Greek historian named Herodotus spoke
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: on the Nuri. They turn into wolves for a few
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: days a year. And the Greeks... had the most famous
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: werewolves of their own, a king who turned himself into
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: a werewolf, basically. His name was Lacoan, and he ruled Acadia.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: And the king of the gods, who to a lot
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: of people is Zeus, but here he's actually Jupiter. He
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: comes down from the heavens in disguise, and he went
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: to Lacoan to see the wickedness of humans. He heard
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: that the humans were just absolutely wicked, Mike. I can't
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: disagree with that. Some humans are absolutely wicked. They are. Okay,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: but he wanted to come down. I think that he
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: had heard about this king eating humans and stuff. Okay,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: so let's see this werewolf fact. This is actually from maverickwerewolf.com.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: This is just one of the websites that I found
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: on this. The legend of King Lycoen of Arcadia. Now,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: this is supposed to be one of the pictures, one
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: of the drawings that's the most famous.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: And they say this is actually one of the most
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: important werewolf legends in history because this is where it
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: all started. And the King Lycaon from ancient Greece. Okay.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: And let's see. So the people when this started, When
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Zeus or Jupiter, whoever you want to interpret him as being,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: when he came down, the king here actually sensed his
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: divinity on him, right? Like he knew that this fellow
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: was probably a god of some sort. But he wanted
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: to prove that he could corrupt this god when he
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: came here. So what he did, he ended up killing
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: a man, like one of his servants. And he boiled
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: the body and he cooked it. This is for entertainment
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: purposes only. And excuse me, viewer discretion advised, y'all. He
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: actually boiled the man to death and he cooked them
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: and he fed the meat to his guests, including Jupiter, a.k.a.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Zeus.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: He tricked his guests into eating human flesh, which was
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: absolutely the most disgusting thing that he could do. Because, listen,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: that's a very sacred act, right? Like having guests over,
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: serving them food, all that kind of stuff. But Lacoin
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: ruined all of that. And Jupiter, a.k.a. Zeus, he reacted
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: by bringing down the whole entire house with a thunderbolt.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: And Lycaon, when he did that, the king actually started
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: transforming into a werewolf. At the time, he transformed into
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: a werewolf. And you could tell that it was him
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: because his face was the same. He had the same eyes.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: He had the same hair, like his gray hair on
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: his head and stuff. But he just transformed into a
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: wolf man. And let's see. If this article has anything else. Yeah,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: it just says Lacoan was the king of Arcadia in
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: ancient Greece. As a legend goes, Lacoan decided to test
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: the divine omniscience. I can't say these words, y'all. Omniscience
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: of Zeus by killing one of his own sons. Oh,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a servant, but it says his
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: own sons. He cooked him into food and served him
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: to Zeus. And then, of course, Oh, it says Zeus
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: turned Lycaon into a wolf as punishment, unaliving his other
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: children and bringing the other one back to life. That's
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: not in my original story. This is way more detailed here.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: So this is great. Lycaon wasn't remembered too negatively despite
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: his actions or his fate. And he did other good deeds,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: it says, in the city, creating a cult dedicated to Zeus.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: And he also hosted the Lycaon games. And there were
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: a lot of Lycaons in Greek myth. And this is
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: merely one of them. Okay. So it says, but what
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: this person that wrote this article wants to do is
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: focus on the legend of how Zeus turned Lacan into
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: a wolf. And let's see, let's talk about Herseid. And
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know, you guys go check out this whole,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: this whole article right here. Again, this is maverickwerewolf.com. And yeah,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: it's way too long for us to be reading today.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Way too long. But we do have a whole lot
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: of werewolf legends. This is where it all started. Zeus,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: some say Jupiter, turned this king into an actual werewolf
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: because he fed, tried to feed him human flesh. I mean,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: this goes back so long ago, Mike. And I mean,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: we're talking 430 B.C. 430 B.C. This is one of
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the first werewolf stories. And to this day, you know,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: you look at maps, let's just fast forward, you know,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: almost 2,000 years, 1,000 years later, we've got maps of
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: the world, like the Piri Reis map. They have dog-headed
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: men on these maps, okay? Now, I don't know if
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: we should distinguish the cyanocephali from the werewolves in this case,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: because it seems like the werewolf, you want to call
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: them myths? Okay, the stories of the werewolves have been
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: around since at least 430 BC. All right, so we're
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: setting the groundwork. Okay, we're setting the groundwork because we're
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: going to fast forward a little bit. Okay, because we've
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: got this king that was made into a werewolf because
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: of Zeus. He fed him human flesh. I mean, I
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: hate to say this, but like, my God, over the
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: past like six years now, we've been hearing more and
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: more about people eating human flesh. and I don't want
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: to say mainstream news and stuff, but like, my God,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: this stuff still happens.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Wasn't that the same way? If I remember right, it's
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: the same kind of incident that brought about the Wendigo
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: by the legend of the Native Americans about the cannibalistic
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: spirit of a certain group or person who was evil
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: and eating other people. And it somehow manifested into what
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: is referred to as the Wendigo. So interesting how another
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: connection to some kind of a cryptid that evolved from
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: somebody in the same kind of manner, eating human flesh.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know it's kind of gross,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: but it's Halloween week. Okay. So we're talking about the
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: really gross stuff today.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Uh, Aronamar. Is that your name? Aronamar? Am I pronouncing
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: that right? My favorite topic, cannibalism. Oh, man, we're going
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: there a little bit today. Just touching on it. OK,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: just a little bit. But that's right. Yeah, there's I
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: think that gets into the human psyche more than anything.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Actually thinking that there's animals out there. We're not the
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: top of the food chain, Mike. I think that's what
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: it boils down to, so to speak, is that humans
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: are not the top of the food chain. And and
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: that's problematic for a lot of people.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Look in the oceans, right?
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Look what you got there. We don't even know what
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: the heck's going on in the deep part of our oceans.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: And there's things in the ocean that put us to shame.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: That's right. That's absolutely right. Well, okay. Well, I want
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: to kind of start off by just mentioning that we're
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: going to get into the story of a gentleman who
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: claimed to be, he admitted to being a werewolf when
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: he was on trial. You know, back in the late 1500s,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: early 1600s, For a good five to ten years, they
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: had what they called the werewolf trials in Europe. And
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: it was not to be confused with the witch trials.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: It's actually like the werewolf witch trials, I think. But
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: I think there were like 40,000 people that died from
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: what I read. I know there's like tens of thousands
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: of people that were affected by this, by the witch trials.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: The werewolf trials, I think like 280 people died, I think.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Tortured to death. Bodies poked with hot pokers and heads
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: chopped off and all that. We're going to get into
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: that in a minute too, y'all. Hold your horses, okay?
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: We're going to get into good stuff. But there was
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: at least one gentleman. He had a, I think he
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: had a group. He claimed to have a group of,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: like a pack of other werewolves who claim to work
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: for God. When he went to trial, he was like, yes,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: I admit to being a werewolf. Yes, I transform. However,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I went into the depths of hell, which is an
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: actual town you can find on a map. And it
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: happened to be where the judge lived, by the way.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: He was like, and there's a door that we go
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: in and, you know, you can only get in there
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: because the, you know, the devil resides down there. And
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: the only way to get in there is for me
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: to transform and my friends to transform. And then we
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: go down in there and there's all the, all the
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: things that have been pillaged from the people up here.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: We go and we, we steal it back. And that's
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: how we do it. We're sent, God sent us to
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: go do that. He said, and so hold, hold your
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: thought on that. We're going to get back to that
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: in just a minute.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Because that's an interesting story. But was he being truthful
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: about it? Was he really a werewolf or was he
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: just trying to get the sympathy of the judge? Okay.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: And like kind of turning things around on the judge
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: a little bit. So there's that as well. So, and
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: that was in 1691.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: All right, why don't we go, why don't we go
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: down the list? Let's go down some famous werewolf stories
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: from the earliest werewolf stories. Okay, because in three, I
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: guess Plato, there's a lot of like Greek writers that
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: wrote about werewolves, Mike. Plato's, Plato's one of them. Okay, and,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: and so some of the werewolves stories that he actually
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: talked about were where people were, turned into werewolves because
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: they were they were shedding the blood of like their
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: their people and stuff like that anyone that turned on
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: their people like a king that was really kings would
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: be werewolves they were werewolves they were turned into werewolves
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: because they were killing their own people basically okay so
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: could this be real this really happened or is this
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: just a matter of literature okay is this just made
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: does this just make for good writing And to sell
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: pamphlets back in the day. They're stones.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: I guess. I don't know.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: They carve stones. They write on paper. I don't know.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: But OK. So Pliny. Pliny the Elder back in 8077. A.D.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: 77 or 77 A.D. He's the one that talked about
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Acadia having its own werewolf ritual. And they're talking, let's see,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: he said he described it as a man from a
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: certain family was led to a pool by a lot.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: He hung his clothes on an Oak and he swam
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: across a lake to go live with a pack of wolves.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: This is what plenty of the elder wrote about. He said,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: as long as that man lived with this pack of
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: wolves for nine years, And he never tasted human flesh.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Then he could return to his people. So they were
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: talking about rituals. Like they were writing this as though
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: this really happened. Like this is what they were doing
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: to test some of the people that were in power.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Like through these powerful families. They would have to go
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: live amongst the wolves for a number of years. And
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: not ever taste the blood of flesh. Not ever give
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: in to the animal instincts of the wolves that they
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: lived amongst. Okay. Which is a little weird to me.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: But I don't know. I mean, back in the day,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: what do you think the odds are, Mike? Do you
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: think they really did that?
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: That's a tough one to say for sure if that's
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: some kind of literature. Like you said, if it's just
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: a story or if it could have been real. And
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: if it was real, I mean, that's what, nine years?
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Was it nine years?
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Nine years. Nine years. That's a long time.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Without eating anything? Or humans.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Just human flesh. They could not eat human flesh. Okay.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: It was their initiation.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Okay. All right.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Well, Oh, here we go. Let's, let's talk about this
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: other one. There's another story right here. There was a,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: this is from Petronius in 66 AD. There was a rich,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: a very rich man. You ever seen the movie? What
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: is it? Like 300, stuff, you know? Um, well, these
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: are all based on true stories, right? And, uh, you know, sometimes,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: sometimes people that were put into slavery actually ended up
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: ruling the whole kingdom, right? And, uh, and so this
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: was a case back then is what was written about.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: There was a rich former slave name. I think his
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: name was Tremachia or Tremachia, something like that. And he
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: was having a banquet where the men were all swapping
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: stories and a man started telling a story about how
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: he had had an affair with a woman that was
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: in town. Now saying that they went through, he went
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: through town. He was going to go hook up with
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: this lady. Long story short, he was going to hook
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: up with her in the middle of the night. It
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: was a full moon, happened to be a full moon.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: He said he left his clothes on the side of
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: the road. He did a little ritual around them where
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: he actually urinated around his clothes.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: So people were like into magic and stuff back then.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: And that was part of the magic. He said, And
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: he said it was ancient magic. They said as soon
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: as he took his clothes off, he ended up running
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: off to the cemetery. OK, he just ran off. I
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: think he turned he transferred into the wolf at that point.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: And so he ran off to the graveyard. He went
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: back to get his clothes and they had turned to
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: stone is what the story says. Now, when he got
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: to that woman's house, she said that something had killed
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: all of her sheep. And so, and they had drained
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: all the blood of all of her sheep and somebody
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: had managed to stick a spear in the neck of
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: whatever this wolf was. They said it was an animal
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: that was killing her sheep. I think it was a wolf. Okay.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: And so when he got back to where he stayed,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: one of the men there actually had a wound in
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: his neck and was dying. And he was like, Oh yeah.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: He was like, I think these guys, they're all shapeshifters
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: as well. So whatever. So that was the story with that. And, uh, OK,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: that was in 66, 80. That was a story about
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: werewolves as well. In the second century, they started talking
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: about lycanthropy. Doctors started diagnosing people with what they called
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: lycanthropy at that point. OK, now the way that they
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: would describe it, you know, we had people here. We
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: had a young lady in Georgia that was diagnosed with
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: lycanthropy back in the early 1900s. Actually, she died in
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: the early 1900s. She was born in the 1860s, I believe.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: And when she got sent off to boarding school, she
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: came home. Her mother suspected she had lycanthropy. The doctor
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: actually diagnosed her with it. And this is what they said,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: what happens when you get lycanthropy. Those afflicted with lycanthropy,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: they roam around the tombs at night in graveyards, acting
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: like dogs until sunlight. Isn't that weird that there's a
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: connection to cemeteries? And today, where are most dogmen seen?
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: A lot of them are seen around Indian burial mounds
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: and cemeteries. I mean, especially that.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: That, that video of that one rolling around digging in
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: that cemetery in Akron. Yeah.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. That's right. Uh, there's lots of stories about
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: them being seen around burial sites and burial mans. I
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: guess that's, uh, that's kind of common. Uh, also they
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: said that it's people who have like cancer B have
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: their legs or are covered in bruises and blood where they, um,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: get dog bites. I guess they try to go live
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: with the dogs and the dogs bite them. Okay. I
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: guess the dogs are like, there's something wrong with this
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: one over here. Let's bite it.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: So let's fast forward to eight, 1183 in Wells. Okay. Wells.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: There was a priest that was making his way South.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: I know I've talked about this on the show a
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: long time ago. You guys probably don't remember this, but
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: we talked about this, where this, this priest was actually
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: going through Ireland. I don't know if he was an
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Irish priest or, he was going through wells in Ireland,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: I think, on a journey, a pilgrimage or something. And
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: he stopped for the night to set up a camp, Mike.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: And he said that he got the fire going and
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: a wolf came out of the woods and it started
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: talking to him. And he was seeking his help. And
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: he told, this guy, his name was Gerald, I believe,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: kind of like Gerald the dolphin, but Gerald, this is
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: the Gerald the priest. And so Gerald was like, he
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: told Gerald not to be scared. And he was like, well,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: how in the world am I not going to be scared?
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: But he asked him to follow him. He said that
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: he needed help with his wife. His wife was dying
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: and she needed her last rites. Well, the priest went
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: with him. He didn't hesitate. And, and then went to the,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: the she wolf. There was like a female wolf on
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: the ground. And the story goes that the, the priest
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: like pulled back a skin from like the top of
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: her head down to her belly button. And it was
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: actually an old lady that was like 80 years old,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: which I found that kind of weird because you know
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: what that sounds like to me? It sounds like an
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: S Walker situation. Like somebody that was like a human
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: that put on a pelt of an animal, I guess.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: But in this case, they said that it was, it
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: was a woman that was wearing the full skin of a,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: of a wolf actually. And so the priest administered the
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: last rites and she died. And, and, and, So this fellow, Gerald,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: had all sorts of stories of the wolf people. He
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: spoke of the ossuary werewolves. The ossuary werewolves. I did
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: a whole show on that one, too. And they say
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: in ossuary, here's the deal with ossuary. Is ossuary in England?
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: What is England today? I think it is. Somebody can
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: correct me in the comments over here if it's not.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: But they say that every seven years in ossuary, I believe,
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: back in the day, two people were had to go
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: leave and live as wolves. They had to go leave
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: and live as wolves. They said they were werewolves.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: They shapeshifted and stuff. So, all right. So he asked
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: if these wolves were demons or are they humans just
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: below the skin? Well, the question became at that point
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: in literature and in theory, where do you draw the
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: line between a human and a werewolf?
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: Because in this guy's story, they were actually able just
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: to pull the skin back and it was a human underneath.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: So they wanted to know like legally, because, you know,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: we have these wolf trials coming up, right? Legally is
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: if you unalive one of these people, is it murder? Okay,
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: so that's where that stepped in. That whole theory came in.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: And I hope I'm giving you all, I hope I'm
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: giving you an eloquent, history of werewolves today.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Cause that's what I'm trying to do. But, but what
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: about if, if like a human is wearing a wolf
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: skin and that is, that would be considered murder legally. Okay.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: But a peeled away, the old woman was a wolf
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: under the skin. So she's definitely a, still a human. Okay.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: But there's some people that there's that. And then there's
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: the other ones that actually transformed fully into a werewolf
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: and there's no skin to peel back. They just become
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: the werewolf. Okay. And, and they were, discussing this throughout
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: history in our literature and stuff like that. And this
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: was an issue. This is like an issue. And, and
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: it still seems to be an issue because we're still
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: debating today. What's the difference between a dogman and a werewolf, Mike?
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: We're still in an S Walker as well. And it's 2026.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: So you think we've learned something by now, don't you?
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we'll ever find those answers out.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: No, I don't know either. I don't know. I have
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: a couple of werewolves in the chat today. Do you
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: guys know? Y'all tell us. Ossory's in Ireland.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Ossory's in Ireland.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: The Gorehound. Thank you, Gorehound. It should have been Ireland
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: because I was just saying that he was in Ireland, right?
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Ireland and Wales. Okay, thank you. Ossory is in Ireland.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: All right, well, let's go to, let's see, the 12th century.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Let's go. to the 12th century because we're working our
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: way up to the 1500s werewolf trials. We're about to
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: go there with those. And I do have a couple
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: of drawings depicting the werewolf trials. They're not pretty at all.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: It's actually quite gory, Mike. Okay, so medieval werewolves. Okay,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: so There was actually a woman named Marie de France.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: And she wrote about the werewolves and talks about a
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: man that was... In what she was writing, she was
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: talking about a man who transformed into a werewolf. He
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: didn't tell his wife that he was a werewolf. And
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: so she got suspicious. He was going into the forest
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: and removing his clothes and hiding them under a stone
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: at an old church.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: If he lost his clothes, he couldn't come back home
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: because he would never be able to transform back into
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: a human if he couldn't put his clothes back on.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: And so he told the wife about it. She was horrified. Well,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: she went to a knight, someone who had a crush
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: on her all along, and told him about it because
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: he was in love with her. I bet she probably
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: liked him too, apparently. And so he went and stole
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: the husband's clothes while he was out being a werewolf.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: And when he came back to look for his clothes,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: he couldn't find the clothes. And so he couldn't go
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: back into his human form. So the knight ended up
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: taking the woman as his wife because the man never
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: came back.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: And the woman was like, oh, I got rid of him.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: And and so he was I think this knight was
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: part of the king is obviously part of the king's court, apparently.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: And so the king was out hunting werewolves, out hunting
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: wolves and stuff. And and he came in contact with
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: that man who was the husband of that woman. And
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: so when he saw the wolf, before they were able
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: to kill it, the wolf came and bowed at the
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: feet of the king and kissed his feet, they say.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: And so the king was like, oh, I like this wolf.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Let's bring him into my court. Let's bring him into
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: the castle. And so this is the story. I think
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: this is a cool story. It probably is not true. Okay,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: but this is a story that's out there. They said
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: that he brought the wolf and his buddies, by the way,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: into the king's castle. And he slept in the bed
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: with the king as a wolf. You got to remember,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: he's a wolf, a large wolf. And it was a wonderful,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: sweet wolf. Didn't hurt anybody. But the wolf went to court,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: saw the knight that had taken his clothes and he
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: attacked him and ripped him to shreds. And then I
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: guess the woman had to admit to the king what
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: had happened because there's this guy that had been slaughtered
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: to death at the king's court. And so the man
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: was given his clothes back. The wolf was given his
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: clothes back. He put his clothes on. And when he
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: put his clothes on, the story goes that when the
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: king went back into the castle, all the wolves that
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: had been in his bed were all turned back into
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: other knights, too. There were a whole bunch of men
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: that had been wolves. So that's the story of that.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: I think it's a cool story. Did it really happen?
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Probably not. But I don't know. Okay, that's the deal
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: with a lot of these stories, Mike. But, of course,
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: we get into the topic of religion as well here.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: And that's where we come up with these werewolf trials,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: I think, is like religion kind of took the story
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: of the werewolf and made it a cautionary tale, if
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: you want to say that. And they were very uneasy
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: about the trend of werewolf stories getting really popular. And
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: they claimed that a man could not transform into a
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: werewolf unless it was demonic. Okay. And that's, we kind
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: of hear that today too, right? It's like people say
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: that the only way you can transform into werewolf is
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: through dark magic. I don't know. I've met some people
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: who claim to be transforming into werewolves and they're pretty
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: cool people. Okay. So I don't know. I think it
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: could be bloodlines, Mike. Are you familiar with that? Have
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: you heard anything about bloodline werewolves?
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: You've talked about it before. I remember hearing about it before,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: but I, I really never looked into like, bloodlines to
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: know much about it, how far back they go and
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: things like that.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Well, I think there's bloodlines. I actually even
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: had a lady on my show a little while back.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Veronica came on and she has been part of the
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: secret space program. She said that she was targeted for
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: some of these. She was really in the military for sure.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: You can verify that she was in the military and
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: believes that she was targeted for some special programs because
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: of her werewolf bloodline. She said, People in her bloodline
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: had been werewolves. Okay, let's pull this up because now
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: we're going to get into the werewolf trials. The werewolf trials.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: This is an image of one of the gentlemen who
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: was eating a kid here, unfortunately. Viewer discretion advised, y'all.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Let's see. So the werewolf trials were prosecutions in Europe
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: where people were accused of lycanthropy, which is turning into wolves.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: and were treated as witchcraft cases by the courts. Now,
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: they peaked in the early 1600s. They spread from Switzerland
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: in the early 1400s, and they were pretty much declining
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: over by the 1700s. Now, werewolf trials were legal proceedings
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: in Europe, and the concept of werewolves were kind of
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: developed alongside the witchcraft beliefs, particularly in regions like Switzerland,
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: And let's see here. The Werewolf Witch Trials. Let's see
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: if I can pull up some of these websites for
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: you guys here. Let me change that picture out, actually.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: Let's put another one up. That's not so pleasant right there, y'all.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Here's one that's equally not as pleasant, but we're going
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: to show this one instead. And so this is just,
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: you know, let's see the witches being burned in the
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: stake in the middle right there. And People getting attacked
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: by bipedal wolves and dogs down here at the bottom.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can, y'all take some time. Look, there's
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: actually dog-headed people wearing clothing in some of these pictures
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: as well. Okay, so in Bedburg, there's a small town
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: near Cologne. In 1589, there's a man named Peter Stump.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: He was tied to a wheel. His skin was burned
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: with hot pinchers. His arms and legs were broken with
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: an axe and his head was decapitated. On the same day,
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: his daughter and his girlfriend were burned alive. A wooden
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: card werewolf was erected and his head was placed upon
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: the head of where the werewolf's head was supposed to be.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: There were 16 pieces of wood under this thing. Each
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: of those planks of wood actually represented each of his victims,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: 16 victims. which sucks. But for 25 years, he owned
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: a belt that was made out of fur, like a
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: pelt that he claimed was given to him by the devil.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: And when he put it on, he became a werewolf. Now,
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: the story says that he actually unalived his own son
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: and ate his brains.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: Which is horrible. He also unalived women and children. They
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: say that these are some of the things that he
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: was accused of. They say that he actually had incest
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: with his daughter and his sister and that he was
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: a cannibal, a monster. And here's the thing about this
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: one too. This is another story where this is, they
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: say that he was accused of all these things, but
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: really it was like in a pamphlet. The only written
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: documentation of this is in like a pamphlet, historical pamphlet,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: like a little thing that was put out and it
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: could have been, some of this could have been made up.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: There's, there's really not proof that this really, really, really happened.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: But I mean, there's there's not say that the werewolf
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: trials did not happen, but it's just some of the
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: things that he they that they claim that he did.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: There's no concrete proof of it. It could have been
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: kind of like what we hear about the witch trials
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: where they were accused of stuff. And it was because
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: people didn't like them. OK, so none of this can
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: really be checked. There's no legal evidence. It really happened.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: And maybe it really happened. But, oh, and they wanted
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: us to note, too, that those pamphlets, you had to
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: pay for them. So it was like getting a newspaper.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean that things aren't true in the newspapers.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Just because you have to pay a quarter for it
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: or whatever. You know what I mean? But there was
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of... Oh, go ahead.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: I wasn't going to say anything else.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: It's pretty interesting. Oh, yeah.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to forget the Beast of Jevudan. Don't worry, Gary.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: We're getting there.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because that comes next. So, yeah, there were a
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: lot of religious wars going on at the time in
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: prosecutions of people, persecutions and prosecutions of people who may
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: or may not have actually been witches and werewolves. And
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: so there were there were people that were, you know,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: trying to. OK, so there was a the Christian religion
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: movement was trying to get people to leave the Catholic movement,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: I guess. OK, and I know, you know, I don't know.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: I don't want to get into the religion side of
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: things today, but that was a big part of it.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: It was a big part of it. It said tens
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: of thousands of people were tried and executed for witchcraft
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: across Europe. I was told it was 40,000 from some
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: of the stuff that I read. And and almost 300
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: people were actually tried and executed for being werewolves. It
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: was close to 300. And, and this was over a
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: span of about 200 years across Europe. Okay. So there
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: was a point where they were putting werewolves in what
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: they called mad houses. All right. Mike, I actually had
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: read LAB Mike on the show a little while back,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: about a month ago, we talked about some information that
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: I came across of where people that were werewolves and
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: shapeshifters were put into insane asylums or psychiatric wards in
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: New York City. And I found some historical records of it, actually.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: So I find that kind of interesting because, you know,
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: back in the day, a lot of people were put
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: in these psychiatric wards. They called them lunatic asylums. stuff
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: and i mean you never know who you're gonna meet
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: in there probably a pack of werewolves but uh it's
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: not really funny i know i'm kind of giggling about
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: it was not funny because like i said a lot
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: of people were probably accused of it and they had
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with it.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: But that's what it sounds like with all the um
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: all the religious turmoil and the separating seems like that
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: would be like a weapon, right? A weaponization of accusation
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: to get rid of people they don't like.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: Oh man.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: I can see that like being a thing, right? Like
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: a way to try to paint certain members of the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: opposite sides as this, as you know, a witch or
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: a werewolf and try to taint their name and get
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: them possibly executed. You know, it's like, It's like that
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff makes you wonder, like, were there really
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: true accounts of when that was happening or was it
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: all like a made up thing that they were using
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: to try to get rid of each other?
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure it was a good old mix of both,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: in my opinion. That's what I think. OK, so some
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: of the people were sent back in the 15 around 1599.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: There were people that were getting sent to madhouses that
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: were psychiatric wards, basically, that were. uh accused of being
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: werewolves others were sent to monasteries they had to go
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: become monks and stuff a werewolf monk but you know
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: what that brings up the the topic of like saint
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: christopher you know they say that he was a dog-headed
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: saint right so there's that i maybe he had his
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: following they were a bunch of werewolves okay at the
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: monastery uh but some people accused uh Some people that
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: were accused of being witches were actually sent to the
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: same facility. So witches and werewolves were sent to the
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: madhouses and the monasteries. But there were actually people there
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: that would walk and run with agility on all fours.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: And they were like, no, they were straight up werewolves,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: they said. They're like, no, I'm an actual werewolf. And
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: kind of like feral people, I guess. I'm assuming they
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: had feral people back then, too, just like we have today.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: I can see some really interesting movies made. That would
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: actually be really interesting to concept to make a movie about,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: about a group of institutionalized werewolves and witches that are
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: in a monastery and, and, and a movie about, about that,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: you know, you can, that'd be pretty interesting. And I
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: wonder that's, I got a lot of questions about that
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: thinking about if that was, if they were in some
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: way really, how could they be kept? Like, you know
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: what I mean? You would imagine they would have some
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: kind of ability to break away from it, but maybe
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: there's some form of submission that they just accepted it.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: That's a good point.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: You think that like they've got superhuman strength, right? You
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: can't keep them chained down and stuff. But I mean, they, they,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: their forms of punishment involved a lot of torture back then.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: As well.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: And they would subdue people to all ends of the earth.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: Like they would, all sorts of torture devices, cutting off
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: body parts, putting them in chains and shackles. And what
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: are those iron maidens and stuff? Like, I don't even know,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: like weird stuff that there's no telling what they did.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised they would even keep them there. Cause I
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: was back in the day when they would just chop
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: people's heads off and quarter people and stuff.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: So very barbaric stuff.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Could have been studying them, like you said, just keeping
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: them subdued to a point where they couldn't and trying
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: to research them.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Yes. Carrie says asylums were for the ones questioning the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: narrative and glorified Loose Pits. Yes, that's I bring up
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: that guy that has a channel on YouTube called My
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: Lunch Break, and he's done a pretty thorough investigation and
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: research into some of these asylums around the United States
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: and like who was actually put there and why. And
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: pretty much coincides with some of these human resets. You know,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: here's my thing. What if, could the witch trials and
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: these werewolf trials been another reset of some sort? It
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: sounds like it was like a, almost kind of a religious,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: a religious based reset is what it sounds like to me. But,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: but that's just me connecting dots and saying things out
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: loud that I probably shouldn't. But yeah, I think that
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: this is just another like, I mean, that 40,000 people,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: that's a lot of people that got persecuted and tried
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: and died over the witch trials. And then you add
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: this 300 more on, you know, more on, not more on.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: But okay, well, all right, well, let's get back to, okay,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: to this fella who claims that he's a werewolf of God.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: And I think this is really weird. And I don't
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: think it's totally out of the picture. You know, you,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: you gotta be pretty smart to come up with something
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: like this. If you're trying to treat the judge into
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: letting you go, you know what I mean? Criminal minds
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: are pretty brilliant at times. And, and so let's go
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: back to 1691. Now this is after they've already had
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: the werewolf trials. Basically the werewolf trials were pretty much
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: over in like 1605 or 1603, I think. And, and
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: so the, This is a place now. Now the area
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: is going to be called Latvia today. But back then
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: it was like Livonia, I think. They had judges that
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: were out of Germany. German judges. And there was a
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: man who had stolen from a church. This is a peasant.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: He was on trial. And there were a bunch of
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: witnesses that were being brought in. This man had previously
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: been accused of being a werewolf. I believe his name is. Oh,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: I actually have a website for this. Let me show
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: you guys so you can see his name because I
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: can't pronounce nothing right, y'all. OK, so let's pull this
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: one up real quick. Thijs, Thijs was his name, Thijs
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: of Kaltenbrun, Thijs of Kaltenbrun. All right, now this is
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: from the Occult Encyclopedia, www.occult.wiki. And this is Thijs of Kaltenbrun.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: better known as the Livonian werewolf. Look at that crazy
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: picture of this werewolf with swords all in him. Isn't
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: that wild? Okay, well, let me read what I know
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: about this guy. Okay, so he was a peasant. He
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: was on trial. He had been accused of being a
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: werewolf in the past. And there were witnesses that were
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: coming up to, I guess, testify against him. And this
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: one guy looked back and he was like, he goes,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: I think he was one of the neighbors, maybe. of Thys,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna call him Thys, Peter Thys. And he said,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: how is a man like that supposed to swear an
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: oath before God? Everyone knows he runs around with the devil.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Everyone knows he's a werewolf. And that was his neighbor.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: It literally says it was his neighbor. I mean, how
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: terrible is that, right? And Thys did not deny it.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: He had been on trial for being a werewolf before actually.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: And because he had a broken nose. Now, this is
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: interesting because, oh, I failed to mention. It's got something
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: to do with these noses. OK, and that one story
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: that I was telling you about the woman who told
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: the knight that her husband was shape shifting into a werewolf.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: So go steal his clothes. And then the man ended
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: up turning into a werewolf, couldn't turn back, befriended the king. Well,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: what happened was when he attacked the knight and shredded
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: him to death. He tore off the nose of his wife.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: He took her nose, literally took her nose. And so
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: they say that actually she got banished from the community
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: and she went to have children later down the road
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: and all her children were born without a nose.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: So that's wild, right? So there's that. And so I
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: totally forgot. I left that part out of that story.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: Here we go. This man right here said that his
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: nose was broken. His nose was all wonky because he
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: was a werewolf. so it's another thing that's like the note,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: then your nose being messed up as an indicator, you're
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: a werewolf. So sorry to everybody who has a crooked
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: nose out there. I know, I see y'all. I know
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: y'all are werewolves. I'm just kidding. Oh Lordy. Okay. Well,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: so yeah, in 1691, the story of the werewolves went
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: back at least a couple thousand years, Mike. Okay. So
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: people already knew about these werewolves. And so it was
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: an issue. And I guess this man had long enough
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: to figure out why, how he could treat the judge,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: I guess, into letting him go. Let me see what
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: this website says. The Thais of Kaltenbrun. 1692 is better
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: known as the Livonian werewolf or werewolf or old Thais
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: was a Livonian farmhand who claimed to be a holy
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: werewolf in the service of God. Now I've never covered
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: a holy werewolf before, Mike. This is a first for
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: the Cryptid Hunters channel.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: First for me, I've never heard of.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: I had not either. Isn't this cool? I mean, I'm
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: actually super stoked to read this right here. So in 1681,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Old Thijs, about 70 years old, attempted to bring a
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: suit in local court against another farmer he accused of
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: being a witch in the service of the devil. And
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: he explained to the judges he had been injured during
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: a visit to hell while attempting to prevent this farmer
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: from delivering stolen grain to Satan. Thijs added that he
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: routinely visited hell to fight with witches and demons in
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: the form of a wolf. The justices tried to find
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: the accused farmer, but discovered that no such person existed
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: They consequently laughed at Thijs' claims and dismissed the case.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: As a result of the court case, Thijs gathered some
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: notoriety among the Livonian peasants who began to visit him
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: as a faith healer for both their animals and themselves.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: It was claimed he could cure almost any ailment through prayer,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: invoking the sun and moon combined with bread, that he
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: consecrated himself with salt. Over the course of 10 years,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: he became a kind of folk saint. He was usually
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: paid small amounts of money for the service, although he
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: accepted trades of food and other goods. On April 28, 1691,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Thijs was called to the royal court as a result
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: of witness testimony in an unrelated theft of money from
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: a church. The witness mentioned that Thijs was a well-known
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: werewolf and performed healings and divination for locals. The justices
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: had Thijs detained and questioned him for over a year.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: During this time, he freely admitted to transforming into a
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: wolf to fight the legions of the devil. Although the
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: court continually caught him contradicting himself, they still believe the
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: story due to certain elements being corroborated by other witnesses
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: and transcripts of this trial strongly suggest that the man
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: who is now in his eighties appear to be spinning
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: a story that grew ever more elaborate in an attempt
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: to satisfy the judge's questions and And in 1692, the
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: questioning turned to the subject of faith healing. He admitted
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: to invoking the sun and moon while completely ignoring God
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: and the Christian church. After the local pastor was brought in,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: the proceedings took a more serious tone. With Thijs being
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: accused of heresy, he began to realize the seriousness of
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: the charges began being laid against him. And he asked
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: for the names of the people who had used his services.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: Old Thijs claimed to have suddenly lost his memory. And then, oh, look,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: we're at the anniversary, y'all. On October 31st of 1692,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: that's on Halloween, Thijs was convicted of being a werewolf
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: and of hearsay for turning those who came to him
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: for healing away from the Christian church and the power
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: of God. He was sentenced to public flogging of 20
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: lashes after his punishment. He was exiled from the Grand
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: Duchy of Lithuania. Nothing more is known about Thijs, but
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: given his advanced age, He likely did not survive the
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: winter of 1692. And it says he was included in
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: the Magician's Martyrs and Mad Men tarot deck. And he
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: was featured as the Ten of Swords card. His complete
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: biography is also included in a book of Magician's Martyrs
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: and Mad Men. Isn't that interesting? Man, that's interesting. Yeah,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: they ultimately just were like, yeah, well, you go against
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: God in the Christian faith. So we're going to flog
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: you half to death at the ripe age of 80
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: years old now. That's wild. Absolutely wild.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: Pretty crazy. People came to him all the time.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: People came to him for some kind of healing and
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: prayer because they believed he had some kind of divine power.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, this had to have been after St. Christopher
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: being labeled as a dog-headed saint, too. You know what
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: I mean? So that's interesting, to say the least. Okay.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: So let's see if there's anything else that I wanted
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: to talk about with that.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, you know, do you want to hear about this
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: whole journey? Because they didn't get into detail about what
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: he told the judge really with that article right there.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: But I have some more information on this, which I
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: think is really interesting. And. OK, so. Three nights out
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: of the year on Christmas Eve, basically, they call it St.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: Lucius Eve. The werewolves, he said that the werewolves, him
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: and his friends would break into hell. Now they were
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: not welcome at the table with the devil. There's a
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: devil and a sorceress there, he said. Now it's interesting
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: because he said that hell could be found on a map, Mike.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: And it was actually the same town that that judge
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: lived in. So that's why I was getting, I was like, oh,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: he was probably just making this up. Okay. But he
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: said that there was a place that he would go
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: underground there. They said that they were, They would usually
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: just be chased off like they were dogs because they
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: weren't walking on two legs. They would go in walking
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: on four legs. They look like dogs or wolves. He
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: said the devil. He the things that I said was
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: the devil would steal all of the land, the livestock,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: the fish and the oats. OK, the barley, the rice,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: the rye, whatever you call that stuff. They were they
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: were taking it and hoarding it underground. Wow, that sounds
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: kind of like today. Things getting hoarded underground. Okay, well,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: they tried to carry out as much barley, oats, and
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: rye as they could. And he said that when they
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: got out of the place, like they were shooed out
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: of there because the people down, the devil thought they
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: were just dogs. But when they came out, they had
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: all this oats and barley and whatever with them and
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: they threw it in the air and it repopulated it.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: It planted back into the ground is what he said
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: when they got it outside. And so here's another thing
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: the judge asked. And the judge asked, where do werewolves
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: go when they die? And Thy said, that they are
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: buried like anyone else. Their souls go to God is
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: what he said, but they don't take communion. He told
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: the judge and he said, and he asked the judge,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: he said, how can someone serving the devil go to heaven?
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: But he said they go to heaven. And I find
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: that interesting too. Now, could that be? I mean, a
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: lot of people might, they believe that, that werewolves are
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: all evil. Dog men are all evil. Some people think
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: the dog men are straight out of hell. And, and I,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's the case. I will reiterate that.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: I just, I don't think that's the case. I have
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: some people who, some friends of mine who have had
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: very positive encounters with dog men, where they actually believe
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: that they saved their lives. I don't know. I think
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: maybe there's like a middle ground here. What do you think, Mike?
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: I think there's, Somebody I knew once put it like this,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: that there's like rules and your cryptids, which I believe
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: all of them, most likely all of them are on
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: a higher dimensional plane that interact with us here. There's
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: like rules and they cannot, I should say, maybe they can,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: but they aren't supposed to, for some reason to interact
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: with us directly. So I think it's more like they're
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: examining us when they're there, you know, and, and watching
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: us and they're not allowed to interact with us in
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: a way. Like, you know, I think that's part of like,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: there's like a, the underlying rules that, you know, maybe it's,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: there's some, there's some, there's more to play that to that,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: but it seems like that's the case. Now, there's probably
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: exceptions to where things have happened. And, you know, so
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: it's probably not 100% that they can't interact with us
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: or they won't. I should say they won't interact with
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: us in a way that's harmful. Because it seems like
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: it's happened, especially with like animals, because I think I've
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: seen some where it appears that the entity had fed
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: on or destroyed animals. animals so it seems like they
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: can but there there's some it seems like there's something
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: about people interacting with people that they they can't or
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: won't do for some some reason almost like there's there's
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: some kind of guideline that's there that they can't or
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: should not do they should not break it.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: Some people would say that's like some kind of spiritual
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: contract yeah i would think Yeah, like spiritual contracts.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: It makes you wonder. And is there some kind of
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: connection to like, not to say that dogmen and werewolves
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: are the same, but there's such an uptick today in
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: modern day, 2026, of dog men and potentially even werewolves
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: and stuff. People are seeing them a lot. And, um, and,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: you know, they, they have been seen sporadically over the years.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: You know, we have plenty of, of local legends and
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: lore of like, you know, the Wolf Woman of Mobile, Alabama,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: for instance.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: And, um, all of, you know, just about every state
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: has a local werewolf, at least one. Almost every state,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: some states more than others. But but it just it
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: kind of makes you wonder, you know, were they meant
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: to be seen or not meant to be seen? And
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: are they in this reality or, you know, is there
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: some kind of these all flesh and blood? And I mean,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: I have a lot of questions, y'all. OK, I always
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: have a lot of questions. And and also, you know,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: with the bloodlines and that kind of thing. And of course,
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: we know that if they are real, our military has
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: weaponized them. and are using them. And, uh, and, you know,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: we can even get into the conversation of like the Germans,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: like the SS and stuff, using them, um, experimenting on,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: you know, animal wolf hybrid people and things like that too. So, um,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: so there's that aspect. However, I don't know. Uh, I
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: think this is a, a very interesting case. You very rarely,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: if ever, I've never heard of a werewolf of God
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: until today, until today. At least he claimed it.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: At least he claims it.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And that might have been just to get out
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: of dying.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, if my life.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: Was on the line. Apparently he painted himself into the
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: corner of admitting to what he was. So now he
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: tried to make himself be like the good guy.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: Genius though. You gotta give him credit. You gotta give
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: him credit, Mike. I mean, it's pretty good. I'm a
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: werewolf of God, fighting in God's army as a werewolf.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: It's almost like a modern-day Robin Hood werewolf. You know
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: what I mean? Stealing from the devil to give back
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: to the people.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: I wonder where this doorway was in Lithuania to hell
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: that he's talking. Is it Lithuania?
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is. It's what we know as that now.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: I wonder if.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: That was ever noted somewhere down during this whole incident
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: and trial about, you know, he said it was given
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: a town, right? I wonder if he actually, if there
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: was actually a location where he said, Oh, this is
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: where we make that trip to hell.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: He did. And I thought I wrote it down. It
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: might've been, uh, Colton Bruin, Colton Bruin.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: Check that place out. It could have been Colton Bruin, uh,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: somewhere in that area, whatever Colton Bruin is. I have
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: a bunch of notes right here that I took earlier. So,
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: It seems like it was like Kingsborough or something like that.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: I'll go back and look. Okay, but he definitely did.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: I did find the name of it, but I don't
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: think it's here. I don't think that we read it here,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: did we?
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: Remember the castle we looked up that supposedly had sealed
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: the underground passageway that was supposed to go to hell?
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: What was that place called? It started with an H,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: didn't it? Oh, what was that place called?
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm having a hard time remembering. Hold on.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: The castle. And that was in, was that in Switzerland?
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly where that was. Let's see. Holtzburg
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: Castle or something like that. Let's see. Hold on. Hold on,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: I'm going to find it. Huska. H-O-U-S-K-A. The Hauska or
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: Huska Castle.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: Huska. Yes. That's it.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: It has the gateway to hell.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, underneath.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: That was a fun show.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: Where's that castle at?
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: It is in the Czech Republic, actually.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: Czech Republic, okay.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Here, I'll pull it up. They had werewolves and things
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: crawling out of that thing. They had all sorts of
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: strange cryptids.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: That was pretty wild accounts.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: You can visit it today.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: Do you want to visit it today, though? You know,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: the schmontzies took that place over. I know you would.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: I would totally visit that place. Man, that'd make a
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: great field trip, wouldn't it?
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: Let's see. Here's a picture. Let me get a picture,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: a zoomed out shot right here. Here we go. Look
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: at all that luscious green vegetation all around that. Looks
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: like broccoli. That's beautiful. Okay. Well, the inside, if you
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: go to, if you fly over that place, that's a...
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: it's like a cutout. They built the castle around a
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: hole in the ground. And the village people who lived
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: around there were terrified of this hole because they said
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: that creatures would crawl out of it. And so they
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: built that castle and they put something over it to
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: keep like bars kind of to like keep things from
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: crawling out of that, out of it. I don't even
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: think that castle had a kitchen in it or bathrooms
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: or something. I forgot what they said. I don't think
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: it had like living quarters in it or something. Because
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: nobody wanted to live there.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: It was built like it was almost to keep something in.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: Not built to protect the people who are staying there
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: from the outside. It was built to keep whatever's there in.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: That's how they said that. That was one of the
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: things about it. It was designed to keep something in
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: and not let it.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: Out lovely place yes if you want to go on
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: vacation at that spot uh good luck well they do
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: have it sealed up though now like today it's completely
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: that hole is sealed up uh they've got it doubled
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: triple quadruple a hundred times sealed over and uh and
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: it's got locks on it and you can't you can't
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: get in there i don't think i don't know i
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: bet there's some folks that would love to that guy
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: that was those people like Today they're touring with Annabelle
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: and all these demonic dolls and stuff. Why wouldn't they
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: open that place today?
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: You can tour it.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: You can go on their website.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: They do tours there.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: It'd be great to go tour that place. Just take
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: some sage with you or something to cleanse. Take your
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: holy water.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: There it is. That's what that floor is sealed up now.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: That's a tiny little hole. I mean, it seems like
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: it'd be like huge, right?
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: Or maybe it is huge and they just left that
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: top part where they can get in there and out
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: if they want to. Yeah. That's the Hauska Castle. Huska
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: or Hauska. Yeah. Stay there if you dare.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: Interesting stuff. Well, let's see.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: I've got a couple, there's a couple of other things
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: I did want to mention today, um, about this because
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: there were people, listen, there were like bands of people
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: like men that would go and they would fight werewolves.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: They go, uh, fight, I guess you call them hunt,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: like witch hunters, like literal witch hunters. And there were
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: people that claimed to go and hunt down werewolves as well.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: And so I did want to touch on that a
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: little bit before we go today. Um, They had night
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: battles is what they would call them. And in Italy,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: there was a village priest who claimed that he would
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: go out at night. And he said that him and
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: his brothers were called the good walkers. The good walkers.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: The benedante is what they were called. The benedante. And
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: so he would go and like, I don't think this
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: guy was a doctor or maybe he was more like
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 2: an exorcist or something, but he would, when kids were born,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: like he would go, if there was something wrong with it,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: or I don't know what they described as like defined
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: as wrong with it, but like, uh, he would diagnose
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: children with bewitchment, bewitchment, probably cause they had a mole
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: on their face or something. I don't know. They didn't float,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: you know, that kind of stuff. I don't know. That's terrible. Uh,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: but he claimed to find witches on behalf of Christ. And, um,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: and so, uh, At some point, he had accused so
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: many people of being witches. He and his friends became
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: accused of being witches themselves. And actually, you know, here's
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: the wild thing. A lot of times people that are
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: pointing the fingers of saying somebody's a witch are usually
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: the ones that are doing the witchcraft. That's what I've learned. Listen,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: I've been accused of being a witch before. And because
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: of the remote viewing stuff. And I don't know, maybe
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: because I'm just really cool. That's the only thing people
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: can think of to accuse me of trying to make
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: me look bad. And it turns out those are like
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: the warlocks that are doing that. Secret societies and stuff
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: like that. But anyways, I digress on that one. Okay. But,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: but they were accused the, what do you call them? The,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: the Benedantes, they were accused of being witches themselves. And
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: so over the next 70 years, there was like a
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: whole group of these guys, Benedantes, they were all found
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: guilty of hearsay. And they had to, I think they got,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: I don't think they got tortured and stuff for doing that,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: but they did have to renounce their beliefs and they
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: had to give like mandatory confessions to the public that
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: they they were not witches and they were actually Christians. Okay. So,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: so there was that as well. Not a big deal. Okay.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: But the people that were, I'm saying that because I
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: want to establish that the people that were accusing everyone
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: of being witches ended up ultimately being accused of being witches.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: So it was like, everybody's pointing at everybody. You ever
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: seen that meme of like Spider-Man and it's all the
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: different Spider-Mans that are all pointing at each other. Wait,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: you're Spider-Man. No, I'm Spider-Man. That's kind of what happened, Mike.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: Everybody's just pointing fingers at each other and everybody's getting
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: in trouble. So there you got it. There you got it.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: There you go. There you have it is what I
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: meant to say. There you have it. And so, yeah. Basically,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: they were a cult.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: They were a cult of devil worshippers.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: You know, people were kind of like, what kind of
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: ability do you have to be able to say who's
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: a witch? And then they started saying they must be
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: witches to know that and turned around on, on them
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: and their little power trip. Right.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, devil worshiping, devil worshiping did get brought into
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: the conversation and it turns out they, people believe that those,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: those men, the good walkers or whatever were actually devil
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: worshipers and stuff. So, Um, well, I don't know. I,
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: let me tell y'all, I, Mike, I learned a lot
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: of stuff today, actually, when it comes to, uh, good
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: werewolves and bad werewolves. And I think there's, I don't
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: think there's a full definition where you can put a
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: label on one label on all of this. Okay. On werewolves,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: whether they're real, whether or not I do believe that
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: people can transform personally. I really do. And, uh, I've
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: seen some weird stuff in my lifetime. Okay. So I
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: believe the real, we have werewolves in the chat today.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: You guys don't have to make yourselves known. I see you. Okay. And,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: and so, I mean, I just think this is fantastic,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: fascinating werewolves of God. And we're going to call them
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: the hounds of God today.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: Wolves of God, whatever you want to call them. And,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: and whether this man was telling the truth and he
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: really did feel as though he was a, a, like
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: a Christian werewolf or, And there are people that I
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: know that are Christian werewolves today. They claim that they're werewolves,
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: but they're definitely Christians. Okay. So is it that far fetched, Mike?
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: Probably not. It could be real. So I don't know. Yeah.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: A lot of research. I'm going to look into, I'm
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: going to start trying to connect some dots. I'm going
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: to start going back and looking over a lot of
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: this that we went over today and, see if I
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: can start connecting some dots and try to make some
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: connections because I'm, I'm interested now about things from the past,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: the things to now, if there's, you know, the connection
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: between what was said and what happened, it was real
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: and what's happening now.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I'm, I love it. Yeah. I want to
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: do some more research too on all this because I mean,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: we talk about werewolves so often and, um, and, Like
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: I had mentioned earlier, the local lore and legends of
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: all these different towns and cities, small towns across America especially,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: a lot of places have their own werewolf stories. We've
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: got several in Georgia, and today we're having an influx
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: of dogman sightings and encounters and stuff. Here where I live,
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: I've investigated some myself recently. But now it kind of
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: throws another aspect into it of like, you know, it's
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: not all, maybe it's not all witchcraft. Maybe it's not
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: all demonic. Uh, maybe it's bloodlines. Maybe it's, you know,
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's positive.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: That, um, the story about, I can't remember his name. Um, the, uh, the, the,
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: the man who, um, supposedly killed his son and fed
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: it to Zeus. And, and then, and then he got
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: turned into a wolf, uh, I mean, if there was
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: some kind of truth to that, you think that could
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: have been basically the start of what ended up being
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: a bloodline? And then you go from there?
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they say the Ossory, that's something about the Ossory werewolves,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: that that's kind of where some of the bloodlines started
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: with them, I believe.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: It sounded similar, like some of the places and things.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, that would be in Ireland. Irish werewolves, that's where
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: it all started. Well, actually, Arcadia, right? Arcadia with the
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: first werewolf. This is, but this was, listen, I'm learning
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: that a lot of the mythology we've been taught is
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: actually true. I mean, it is what it is, y'all. Werewolves, vampires, dogmen, Bigfoot,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: all these unicorns and whatever, they're real somewhere. Some reality. Okay.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: And what if a lot of these stories that go
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: back to the ancient gods are actually real? And, and so, yeah.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: What was this fella's name? Let's see. King Lycaon. King
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: Lycaon of Arcadia. Okay. He's the one that was turned
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: into a werewolf by Zeus or Jupiter, depending upon who's
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: telling the story, right? And so he was, I guess
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: he was cursed for feeding Zeus human flesh or trying
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: to feed him human flesh. I don't know if Zeus
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: ate it. Hopefully not. But but anyways, yeah, because I
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: guess like and who I just thought of something. I mean,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: I hate to bring this up, but like the people
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: claim today that we may possibly be being fed human
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: flesh through soylent green and fast food. And I hate
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: to say that because it may or may not be true.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: This is for entertainment purposes only. But but if we
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: are being it is being put back into our food supply,
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: human flesh and things like that. It's like there are
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: people are doing it to us today. I hope that's
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: not the case, but that's what we're hearing about.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: Same.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And this goes all the way back to Zeus
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: coming down. Okay. Zeus coming down and turning this King
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: Lacoan into a werewolf. What the heck? What the heck, y'all?
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: What the heck? Here we go. So this is where
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: it all started. Uh, but, uh, but yeah, man, I
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: cannot wait till one day when I get my werewolf
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: security team, I am still waiting. I'm still waiting to
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: strike it rich and, uh, and be able to afford
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: a payroll for that. That payroll is going to be massive.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: Probably.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get the best of the best, Mike.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you that.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: I might even put some, which I don't know, which
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: is on there too. I don't know. No, just, just
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: werewolves for now. Werewolves, the tough ones.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: But, uh, But anyways, man, what a day. What a show.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: This has been awesome. Mike, I really do appreciate you
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: being here, hanging out with me today. It's always fun
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: hanging out with you, especially on Halloween week. What do
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: you think? Do you think this is a good Halloween
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: topic today? Yeah.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. And it's just more, for me, it's more
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: to keep my eyes open for and more trying to
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: find proof of cryptids and things like Dog Man and
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot and see if I can capture, if I can
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: capture them on video, even photographs or whatever, whatever I can,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: hopefully video. You know, so that's, that's kind of the,
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: it's kind of the goal to see what happens.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: Heck yeah. I mean, you've gotten some, you've gotten some
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: live pictures, some live videos, not pictures, video. of Bigfoot
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: and other stuff, like during your live shows, like I've
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: been there, I've seen it. It is so cool. And, uh,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: and so, yeah, I highly recommend y'all go over to
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: empty paranormal life on YouTube and please subscribe if you
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: haven't already.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: And, uh, yeah.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: Are you going to be going out tomorrow night?
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: Um, most likely I know with the Halloween, I was
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: debating on whether or not I wanted to, um, if
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: I could do another, if I could do another two
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: live streams still, or if I should hold off for Halloween. Um,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: cause I know like 10 man, um, he came back out,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: I'd say he came back out of retirement cause he, um,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: he stopped getting involved because of some bad experiences and
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: he decided to, um, start getting back in. So he
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: contacted me and he is usually joining me every time. And, uh, he's,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: he's on vacation again. So I'll be without him for, um,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: about a week or so. Uh, maybe Dave will join me. Um, Depends.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: I'm really going to shoot for Thursday for tomorrow. So
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: look forward to tomorrow and then maybe one on Saturday.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: That one's going to be a little bit trickier to
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: pull off because some of the places we had in mind,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: we don't want to run into like a bunch of
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: people being there at the same time. So we're going
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: to see what we got when we try to go there.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: But I'm hoping to pull off two more lives this week.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, you can do it. It's Halloween. You have to.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: You don't have a choice.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: Plus, I'm starting to there's a lot of Cuyahoga National Forest.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of it I haven't been to that I.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: You know, of course, it's a huge forest and I've
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: only gone to some of the area, but I've been
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: getting into. a lot more of it and, um, been,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: been filming some interesting things. In fact, Friday, I've got
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: a video dropping. Um, Dave and I went into Cuyahoga
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: forest into a certain area where he had an encounter. Um,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: and we've captured a lot of very unique structures that
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: were built. and some, some knocks on things we captured.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: So look forward to that. And that's going to get
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: me going back in there again to see what, what
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: else we find. Oh, so that's probably where I'll be tomorrow.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. I love that. I came across a
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: video the other day of this guy walking through the
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: woods and he runs into that Sphinx that you've, you've
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 2: talked about before. I know you were on a Midwest
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: night watchers. You guys really focused on that. Shout out
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: to Jane and Gerald, by the way. But yeah, I
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: saw him. I thought of you. I was like, oh,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 2: that's Mike's territory over there. Yeah, that's cool. You're showing
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: all these other faces out there too. There's all these
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: faces carved in the rocks. What is up with that?
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: The place is called Warden's Ledges. I think it's considered,
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: I think it's Lake County. But it was, I think
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: they're all from 18, mid 1800s. I think I might
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: be wrong. I can't remember, but they're from the there
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: was like the son in law of famous. I think
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: the warden they were their last name was Warden. They
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: were pretty famous. And the one their son in law
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: was an artist and he carved in all those those
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: glacier rocks. He did carvings of famous people. One's George Washington.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: One's Ty Cobb, the baseball player. He did that Sphinx.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: He got access to it to go show off some
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: of his artistic skills. He engraved his initials and dates
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: on stuff. If I remember right, it was like 1850s.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: time era so it's been he did a long time ago.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah the faces all kind of look similar a little
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: bit i mean listen if i was bored and i
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: had some time i'd go out there and carve stuff
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: too probably it's like it's like old school graffiti back
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: in the day you know they didn't have spray cans
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: of paint he's gonna carve some.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: Stuff surprisingly there's a decent amount of places that um
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: they've used they've used uh people to add their own
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: sculpture work and carvings and in the parks there's um
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: there's another one i'm trying to remember the name of
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: it that i i did in the video we went
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: to check it out it was um a real unique
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: um sculpture like a carving of it's like a whole
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: scene that somebody carved oh yeah and it's still in
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: the park it's still down in the park today and
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: interesting to go see it oh my.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: God that's awesome Ohio is a strange place, man. I
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 2: love it. I bet it's beautiful out there and you
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: guys have so much activity, so much high strangeness out there.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: And I have to come, I got to come visit sometime.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: I had to get out in the woods up there.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: It looks awesome.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: You let me know when you come to, you ready
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: to go to Georgia down South and we'll take you
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: to some spots down here and I'm going to come
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: up there sometime. Okay.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: Sounds good.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. That's awesome. Real quick, I want to
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: take a quick break here. Injadeb, thank you so much
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: for that super sticker. Great show so far. This was
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: from earlier today. I'm so sorry I missed this earlier.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 2: And Injadeb has to go get ready for a costume shopping.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: I guess you're going to costume party. And let's see.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: Somebody asked me earlier. Thank you for that super sticker,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: by the way, Injadeb. Somebody asked me what I'm going
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: to be for Halloween. I don't know. Okay. I have
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: a lot of different ideas. I might dress up tomorrow night, actually.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: I do have a show tomorrow night, y'all. So y'all
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: come see me. It'll probably be the night that I
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: dress up, okay? Because we have trick-or-treating on Saturday and stuff.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if I'm gonna dress up for that.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: I usually wear hoodies and stuff, okay? So I might
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: dress up tomorrow night. So you guys will see me
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: to be determined. It's a secret, okay? But oh my gosh, Brian,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: Sir Brian Bowden is in the chat today. What's up,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: Brian Bowden? Just saying hi, Jess. Thank you so much, Brian.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: It's good to see you. Thank you for the super
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: sticker for your support. It's good to see you in here.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: And hopefully I will see you soon in person somewhere.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: One of these conferences. Okay. But thank you, Brian. All right. Well, Mike,
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: let me see. Do we pull up? I don't know
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 2: if I made a banner today. You've got the, let
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: me take this down. And yes. Oh, I've got your
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: website right here. Let me show the audience real quick
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: before we go today. Your YouTube channel. And you guys,
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: please be sure to go over there. And subscribe to
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 2: MT Paranormal Life on YouTube.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: And you've got live shows throughout the week. It's mostly Thursday, right? Thursday,
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: sometimes Monday, sometimes Saturdays.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: Right? Yeah. Like sometimes do special things like the full moon.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: I did extra live stream for that. And Halloween coming up,
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: I'm going to try to do an extra one on Saturday. Awesome. Thursday.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: I try to keep that Thursday one going. It's been
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: going for. A while.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: Sweet.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: But on Facebook, on the Facebook group is where I'm
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: able to post a lot of updates. So if there's
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: a change to any of that, I always post it
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: on the Facebook group. That's where to go to kind
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: of catch any of those changes.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: Heck yeah. We all go join the Facebook group to
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: empty paranormal life over on Facebook. All right. Well, wonderful.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 2: This has been awesome today, Mike. You are the man, dude.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited you were here today. And I hope
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: you have a very safe Halloween and safe expeditions out
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: there in Northeast Ohio. And yeah, go capture us some
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: good cryptids on film this weekend.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: I'm going to try.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the veil will be thin. Keep trying. Yeah, you'll
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: probably get a whole bunch of, hopefully you'll get more
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: EVPs and all that this weekend. because of the veil
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: being so thin. Okay. So, but anyways, you get good evidence,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: no matter what, it don't matter what time of year
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 2: it is.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: So weird going on.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: Always something weird. That's right. Oh no.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: Oh man. All right.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: Well, well everybody, thank y'all so much for being here
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: today with us. Y'all are the best. I hope everybody
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: has a very safe and happy Halloween this weekend. I
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: will be back. I've got two shows. I got one
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: on Halloween and, And then one tomorrow night. Y'all please
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: come back and see me tomorrow, 8 p.m. Eastern here
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 2: on the Cryptid Hunters channel. And then go see Mike
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: over on his channel. What, at 10 p.m. Eastern, I believe, right?
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: And thank you guys so much for the super stickers today.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: Always in timeout. Thank you for becoming a member of
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: the Hunt Club today. And Ingenib and Brian Bowden. Thank
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: y'all so much for the super stickers this afternoon. I
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: appreciate the support so much. And thanks, everybody, for my
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: moderators for being here. And I will see you guys
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: back here tomorrow night. And we'll see you over on
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: your channel tomorrow night, Mike.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: All right. I'll see you everybody then.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: All right. Everybody have a great day. We'll see you tomorrow.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: Bye. Bye.