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- 0:00Speaker 1: In December of two thousand and five, a young woman
- 0:02Speaker 1: walked down a sidewalk in New York City. There were
- 0:05Speaker 1: Christmas decorations on all the buildings and Christmas lights. I mean,
- 0:08Speaker 1: it was very festive. But as she walked along, she
- 0:11Speaker 1: glanced over at a newspaper stand and she saw something
- 0:15Speaker 1: on the front page of that paper that literally made
- 0:17Speaker 1: her stop in her tracks. And not because it was festive,
- 0:20Speaker 1: it was awful. Right there on the front page was
- 0:24Speaker 1: a picture of the one thing in her life that
- 0:27Speaker 1: she'd hoped she would never ever see again. But before
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- 1:24Speaker 1: Early on the evening of Sunday, November twenty seventh, two
- 1:27Speaker 1: thousand and five, a twenty one year old woman named
- 1:29Speaker 1: Catherine Woods leaned towards the mirror to put on her
- 1:32Speaker 1: eyeliner inside the bathroom of her small apartment in New
- 1:35Speaker 1: York City. Catherine's phone was sitting on the bathroom counter
- 1:38Speaker 1: and she heard it bus, but she didn't even look
- 1:41Speaker 1: to see who was calling. She didn't have time to
- 1:42Speaker 1: talk to anyone because she had to finish getting ready
- 1:45Speaker 1: for her seven o'clock shift at work. So Catherine had
- 1:48Speaker 1: moved to New York City from Ohio three years earlier
- 1:51Speaker 1: to pursue her dream of becoming a dancer on Broadway.
- 1:53Speaker 1: But everything here was so expensive that in addition to
- 1:57Speaker 1: chasing her dream, she also had to work three different
- 2:00Speaker 1: jobs just to make ends meet. Now, two of those
- 2:03Speaker 1: jobs were pretty standard. She worked as a waitress and
- 2:05Speaker 1: also taught children's dance classes. But tonight she was getting
- 2:08Speaker 1: ready to go to her third job, and this job
- 2:11Speaker 1: was not really standard at all. In fact, to her,
- 2:14Speaker 1: she was sort of embarrassed about it, and because of that,
- 2:17Speaker 1: she was keeping it a secret from almost everybody in
- 2:19Speaker 1: her life. Her third job was working as a topless
- 2:22Speaker 1: dancer at a strip club near Times Square called Flash Dancers.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Catherine honestly hated the work, but it paid really well,
- 2:30Speaker 1: and if she wanted to have her shot at Broadway,
- 2:32Speaker 1: she needed to pay for voice lessons and dance classes. Now,
- 2:36Speaker 1: she did live in Manhattan, which was the most expensive
- 2:39Speaker 1: part of the already very expensive city, and she knew
- 2:42Speaker 1: that she could save some money if she just moved
- 2:44Speaker 1: to a neighborhood where rent was cheaper. But when she
- 2:47Speaker 1: had first moved to New York, she had lived in
- 2:49Speaker 1: a less expensive neighborhood for that reason, and unfortunately, her
- 2:54Speaker 1: landlord had sexually assaulted her. The experience had been so
- 2:57Speaker 1: traumatic that Catherine had at the time and just leaving
- 3:00Speaker 1: New York and going back to Ohio and just being
- 3:03Speaker 1: done with this place. But in the end, she had
- 3:06Speaker 1: decided to stay in New York and continue chasing her dream.
- 3:09Speaker 1: Now she did move within New York. She'd gotten this
- 3:12Speaker 1: apartment in Manhattan because it was a lot safer, and
- 3:15Speaker 1: she also got a roommate to help with the cost.
- 3:17Speaker 1: His name was David Hahn. He was twenty three, and
- 3:20Speaker 1: he was one of Catherine's friends from back home. In Ohio,
- 3:23Speaker 1: but at this very moment, David was not inside the apartment.
- 3:26Speaker 1: He'd gone outside to get his car so we could
- 3:28Speaker 1: drive Catherine to work. Catherine finished her makeup and left
- 3:31Speaker 1: the bathroom, and as she walked through the living room,
- 3:34Speaker 1: she stepped over a black dog that was sleeping on
- 3:36Speaker 1: the floor. The dog was not Catherine's, and it actually
- 3:39Speaker 1: was not David's either. David was a part time dog sitter,
- 3:42Speaker 1: so this dog was just staying with them while its
- 3:44Speaker 1: owners were out of town. Just like Catherine, David also
- 3:47Speaker 1: had a bunch of part time jobs to help make
- 3:49Speaker 1: ends meet. When he was in dog sitting. He worked
- 3:51Speaker 1: as a doorman at a hotel just up the street
- 3:54Speaker 1: from their apartment. Now, Catherine and David had actually been
- 3:57Speaker 1: romantic at one point. They had dated for a little while,
- 4:00Speaker 1: but these days they were just roommates living together to
- 4:02Speaker 1: split the bills, although secretly Catherine did sometimes wonder, if,
- 4:06Speaker 1: you know, maybe they should give it another shot to
- 4:08Speaker 1: try being a couple again. Thanksgiving had been a few
- 4:11Speaker 1: days ago, and instead of going home to Ohio like
- 4:13Speaker 1: she usually did, Catherine had stayed in New York and
- 4:16Speaker 1: celebrated with David, and it had been a really nice time.
- 4:19Speaker 2: Plus, David knew about.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Catherine's third job of working at Flash Dancers, and he
- 4:23Speaker 1: didn't judge her for it, and Catherine felt like a
- 4:26Speaker 1: lot of people did, so she liked that about him.
- 4:28Speaker 1: But the biggest hurdle that Catherine could see to potentially
- 4:31Speaker 1: rekindling their relationship was the fact that David disliked basically
- 4:36Speaker 1: every man she met, whether she.
- 4:37Speaker 2: Was dating them or not. He just did not like them.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Now, some of these guys, she could understand why David,
- 4:43Speaker 1: you know, didn't like them, Like there was this guy Joe,
- 4:45Speaker 1: that she had dated briefly, who really she'd only met
- 4:48Speaker 1: because he was a patron of her strip club. But
- 4:51Speaker 1: then there were people like Paul, who was a personal
- 4:53Speaker 1: trainer at Catherine's gym, who she'd only seen off and on,
- 4:56Speaker 1: and who was nothing but nice to David. And even
- 4:58Speaker 1: though Paul and Catherine were dating now and mostly just
- 5:01Speaker 1: spoke on the phone periodically, David still insisted that Paul
- 5:05Speaker 1: was a creep.
- 5:05Speaker 2: He just did not like the guy.
- 5:07Speaker 1: But for now, Catherine figured, you know what, I'm not
- 5:10Speaker 1: going to figure out my entire romantic life. I just
- 5:12Speaker 1: need to finish getting ready and go downstairs so she
- 5:15Speaker 1: wouldn't keep David waiting. So Catherine went into her bedroom
- 5:18Speaker 1: and began getting dressed, and that's when she heard that
- 5:21Speaker 1: dog start barking at something in the living room, and
- 5:24Speaker 1: so curious, Catherine walked in that direction to see what
- 5:28Speaker 1: was going on. A little while later, Catherine's roommate, David,
- 5:35Speaker 1: walked quickly along the sidewalk to get his car, which
- 5:38Speaker 1: was parked a ways up the street. He was out
- 5:40Speaker 1: of breath by the time he reached it. He knew
- 5:42Speaker 1: he had to hurry, so he jumped in and he
- 5:44Speaker 1: drove back to the apartment building and he called Catherine
- 5:47Speaker 1: as he pulled up out front. When she didn't answer,
- 5:50Speaker 1: he threw on his hazards and he climbed back out
- 5:52Speaker 1: to go into the building to go get her. And
- 5:54Speaker 1: he had just made it up the flight of stairs
- 5:56Speaker 1: that led to his second floor apartment, and he was
- 5:58Speaker 1: going down the hallway when he saw something that made
- 6:01Speaker 1: him come to an abrupt stop. It was that black
- 6:03Speaker 1: dog that he was dog sitting. Somehow, it had gotten
- 6:06Speaker 1: out of the apartment and was just standing there in
- 6:09Speaker 1: the shared hallway outside of his apartment door. David blinked
- 6:12Speaker 1: and then realized that his neighbor, a man he rarely
- 6:15Speaker 1: interacted with named Brad Stewart, was standing right behind the dog,
- 6:19Speaker 1: and Brad was holding a leash that was clearly clipped
- 6:22Speaker 1: onto the dog's collar. For a second, Brad looked surprised,
- 6:25Speaker 1: and David was just completely confused about why this guy
- 6:28Speaker 1: had the dog that he was dog sitting on a leash.
- 6:31Speaker 2: But then Brad told David that he had found.
- 6:33Speaker 1: The dog wandering around, recognized it as David's, and brought
- 6:37Speaker 1: it back to his apartment. Brad said he had just
- 6:39Speaker 1: knocked on David's apartment door, but so far nobody had answered,
- 6:42Speaker 1: so at this point David understood, you know why Brad
- 6:45Speaker 1: has the dog, but he didn't know why the dog
- 6:48Speaker 1: was out of the apartment in the first place, but
- 6:50Speaker 1: he kept that to himself and just thanked Brad took
- 6:52Speaker 1: the leash and then stepped over to the door of
- 6:54Speaker 1: his apartment number two D. The apartment door was shut,
- 6:58Speaker 1: but when he turned the handle, he found that it
- 7:00Speaker 1: was unlocked. David couldn't remember if he had left it
- 7:02Speaker 1: unlocked or not, so he just opened it and he
- 7:05Speaker 1: called out Catherine's name but there was no answer, which
- 7:08Speaker 1: was weird, so he stepped inside. Now he didn't see Catherine,
- 7:12Speaker 1: but he did see the door to her bedroom was
- 7:14Speaker 1: slightly cracked open, so he walked over to it and
- 7:16Speaker 1: he called out to her again, and then when she
- 7:19Speaker 1: didn't call back, he tried pushing her door open, but
- 7:21Speaker 1: the door didn't really open. It instead swung maybe a
- 7:25Speaker 1: few inches and then stopped, and David felt resistance on
- 7:28Speaker 1: the other side, like something maybe on the ground was
- 7:31Speaker 1: holding the door from.
- 7:31Speaker 2: Opening all the way.
- 7:33Speaker 1: And so, now with all these strange things happening, David's
- 7:35Speaker 1: starting to feel pretty worried, and so the surge of
- 7:38Speaker 1: adrenaline came over him and he just shoved the door open,
- 7:41Speaker 1: and he stuck his head in and he looked inside,
- 7:44Speaker 1: and when he saw what was in there, he immediately
- 7:46Speaker 1: pulled back, turned around, ran into the hallway, and he
- 7:50Speaker 1: called the police. Half an hour later, around seven thirty PM,
- 7:57Speaker 1: an NYPD detective named Stephen Getz walked up a flight
- 8:00Speaker 1: of stairs at an apartment building in Manhattan. This part
- 8:04Speaker 1: of the city was known to be extremely safe. Homicides
- 8:07Speaker 1: never really happened here, but if the nine to one
- 8:09Speaker 1: one caller had been telling the truth. Gets knew that
- 8:13Speaker 1: a potential grisly murder scene was in fact waiting for
- 8:16Speaker 1: him in Apartment two D. When he reached the second
- 8:19Speaker 1: floor landing, he saw there were already a few other
- 8:22Speaker 1: NYPD officers on the scene, and one of them was
- 8:25Speaker 1: speaking to this young, skinny guy standing in the hallway
- 8:27Speaker 1: who looked really upset, and he was holding a leash
- 8:30Speaker 1: that was connected to a black dog. Another officer walked
- 8:33Speaker 1: over to Getz and filled him in. He said the
- 8:35Speaker 1: man that was being spoken to was the victim's roommate,
- 8:37Speaker 1: David Hawn, and he was the one who had found.
- 8:40Speaker 2: The body and called nine to one one.
- 8:42Speaker 1: The victim, Catherine Woods, was inside the apartment in the
- 8:45Speaker 1: back bedroom. Gets nodded and then walked down the hallway,
- 8:49Speaker 1: passed David and the dog toward the apartment door. His
- 8:52Speaker 1: plan was to look at the scene himself before he
- 8:55Speaker 1: began questioning anyone. Gets put on some disposable rubber gloves
- 8:59Speaker 1: and checked out the doorframe to the actual apartment, and
- 9:02Speaker 1: then he also looked at the door itself, but he
- 9:04Speaker 1: didn't see any damage that could signify forced entry, so
- 9:07Speaker 1: he stepped into the apartment and he saw that the
- 9:10Speaker 1: small living room was a little bit messy, but it
- 9:12Speaker 1: wasn't like it had been.
- 9:13Speaker 2: Ransacked or something, you know.
- 9:15Speaker 1: The futon was pulled out, and there were some men's
- 9:17Speaker 1: clothes strewn around, but it sort of looked.
- 9:19Speaker 2: Like a typical place that people lived.
- 9:21Speaker 1: And so gets walked through the living room, being careful
- 9:23Speaker 1: not to disturb anything, and he went towards what he
- 9:26Speaker 1: assumed was the bedroom where the body was. The door
- 9:29Speaker 1: was opened just wide enough that Getz was able to
- 9:31Speaker 1: get through, and when he stepped through and was inside
- 9:34Speaker 1: the room, he saw blood everywhere. It was all over
- 9:38Speaker 1: the walls and the furniture, and the room itself looked
- 9:42Speaker 1: like it had been completely torn apart. One of the
- 9:44Speaker 1: dresser drawers was open, and lots of women's clothing was
- 9:47Speaker 1: scattered all over the place, and the mattress had been
- 9:50Speaker 1: completely taken off the bedframe and was now lying on
- 9:53Speaker 1: the floor. And that's actually what was blocking the door
- 9:55Speaker 1: from opening all the way. And then in the middle
- 9:58Speaker 1: of the room, in a pool of blood, lay the
- 10:00Speaker 1: body of a young woman. Gets new from the nine
- 10:03Speaker 1: to one one call that her name was Catherine Woods.
- 10:06Speaker 1: He walked over and squatted down next to.
- 10:08Speaker 2: Her for a closer look.
- 10:10Speaker 1: She was wearing a T shirt and underwear, and the
- 10:12Speaker 1: T shirt had a very obvious shoeprint on it, like
- 10:15Speaker 1: whoever had killed Catherine had stepped on her. And there
- 10:18Speaker 1: were at least a dozen stab wounds all.
- 10:20Speaker 2: Over her body.
- 10:21Speaker 1: There were also what appeared to be defensive wounds on
- 10:24Speaker 1: her hands and arms, which Gets new meant she must
- 10:27Speaker 1: have fought back against her attacker. But the worst injuries
- 10:30Speaker 1: she sustained were definitely to her neck. Whoever had killed
- 10:33Speaker 1: her had slit her throat so deeply that they had
- 10:36Speaker 1: almost decapitated her, and so to Gets right away, it
- 10:40Speaker 1: seemed like whoever killed Catherine had been in an absolute rage.
- 10:44Speaker 1: At that point, Gets heard footsteps coming from behind him,
- 10:48Speaker 1: and he stood up and he turned around to see
- 10:50Speaker 1: that the NYPD forensics team had arrived. Now, the block
- 10:53Speaker 1: door was making maneuvering in and out of this bedroom
- 10:55Speaker 1: pretty difficult, so one of the first things the forensics
- 10:58Speaker 1: team did was to pick up the mattress and carefully
- 11:01Speaker 1: lean it against the wall so the bedroom door could
- 11:03Speaker 1: now swing open all the way. Then Detective Gets just
- 11:06Speaker 1: stepped back and let the forensics team get to work.
- 11:09Speaker 1: He watched as they pulled that shoeprint off the T
- 11:11Speaker 1: shirt Katherine was wearing, and then also there was a
- 11:14Speaker 1: second identical shoeprint that was on our bedsheets that they
- 11:17Speaker 1: also grabbed to Gets. Both of these prints did appear
- 11:20Speaker 1: to be from the exact same shoe, and to the
- 11:22Speaker 1: naked eye, these prints appeared, at least to Gats, to
- 11:25Speaker 1: belong to very likely an average sized man. Detective Gets
- 11:29Speaker 1: was immediately curious about something, so he stepped out of
- 11:32Speaker 1: the bedroom into the living room, and he quickly found
- 11:35Speaker 1: a couple pairs of men's shoes lying on the floor,
- 11:37Speaker 1: and although the tread of these shoes did not match
- 11:40Speaker 1: the prints he had just seen in the bedroom, they
- 11:42Speaker 1: did appear to be the exact same size. An hour later,
- 11:56Speaker 1: at about eight thirty pm on November twenty seventh, two
- 11:58Speaker 1: thousand and five, Detective Gets sat down at a table
- 12:01Speaker 1: inside of an interview room at the NYPD's nineteenth Precinct,
- 12:05Speaker 1: and once he did, he handed a bottle of water
- 12:07Speaker 1: across the table to David Hahn, the roommate of the
- 12:10Speaker 1: murder victim and Detective Gets current number one suspect. There
- 12:15Speaker 1: had been no sign of forced entry at the apartment
- 12:17Speaker 1: that David and Catherine shared, which meant that Catherine's killer
- 12:21Speaker 1: either had access to the apartment or was let inside
- 12:24Speaker 1: by somebody who did. And the murder had been committed
- 12:27Speaker 1: with a knife in a really savage way that struck
- 12:30Speaker 1: Gets as being a personally motivated attack. Even though Catherine's
- 12:34Speaker 1: bedroom had been trashed, nothing seemed to have been stolen,
- 12:37Speaker 1: and because Catherine had been found partially undressed, there was
- 12:41Speaker 1: potentially a sexual motive at play as well. So Gets's
- 12:44Speaker 1: working theory here was that this murder was committed by
- 12:47Speaker 1: a man who knew the victim well and had easy
- 12:49Speaker 1: access to her living space, and David fit that profile
- 12:53Speaker 1: to a t. Plus he apparently wore the same size
- 12:57Speaker 1: shoe as the killer. Although as detective gets settled into
- 13:00Speaker 1: his chair and brought out his notepad, he did a
- 13:03Speaker 1: quick scan of David's forearms in his hands, and he
- 13:06Speaker 1: saw that David had no visible cuts, scrapes, or bruises.
- 13:10Speaker 1: The detective thought that Catherine's killer likely would have some
- 13:13Speaker 1: injuries there because she had obviously been fighting for her life,
- 13:16Speaker 1: she would have left a mark on them, but Getz didn't.
- 13:19Speaker 2: Say anything about this to David.
- 13:20Speaker 1: Instead, he just leaned forward and he asked David to
- 13:23Speaker 1: walk him through what had happened that day. David's hands
- 13:26Speaker 1: were shaking a bit, but he took a deep breath
- 13:28Speaker 1: to calm himself, and he said that he had been
- 13:30Speaker 1: at the apartment with Catherine that night until about six
- 13:33Speaker 1: forty pm. That was when he had left to go
- 13:36Speaker 1: get his car so he could come back and drive
- 13:38Speaker 1: Katherine to her seven o'clock shift at Flash Dancers. But
- 13:42Speaker 1: he said retrieving his car had taken longer than he
- 13:44Speaker 1: expected because on the way he had run into some
- 13:47Speaker 1: of his coworkers from his dorman job, and he had
- 13:50Speaker 1: stopped to chat with them, He said, after he had
- 13:52Speaker 1: done that and he had gotten his car and he
- 13:54Speaker 1: went back to the apartment, he had expected Catherine to
- 13:57Speaker 1: be waiting outside by the curb, but when he got there,
- 14:00Speaker 1: there was no sign of her, and she didn't answer
- 14:03Speaker 1: when he called her, so David said he'd ultimately gone
- 14:05Speaker 1: inside and ran upstairs to the apartment, and in the
- 14:08Speaker 1: hallway he had found his neighbor Brad, who was oddly
- 14:11Speaker 1: holding the leash of the black dog that David was
- 14:14Speaker 1: supposed to be looking after and then David said he
- 14:16Speaker 1: went into his apartment and that's when he found Catherine's body.
- 14:19Speaker 2: David said he had called.
- 14:20Speaker 1: Nine to one one right away. It was right around
- 14:22Speaker 1: seven pm. And at this Getz stopped writing on the
- 14:25Speaker 1: notepad and just looked up at David. He couldn't believe
- 14:28Speaker 1: what he was hearing. David was claiming that he'd only
- 14:31Speaker 1: been out of the apartment for twenty minutes, and that
- 14:34Speaker 1: in that narrow window of time, Catherine had been brutally
- 14:38Speaker 1: murdered and the killer had also escaped. It honestly sounded
- 14:41Speaker 1: like one of the worst alibis gets had ever heard,
- 14:44Speaker 1: but he didn't want David to know just how close
- 14:46Speaker 1: he was to getting arrested for murder because he didn't
- 14:49Speaker 1: want David to get scared and stop talking. So Getz
- 14:52Speaker 1: kept his tone very sympathetic as he asked how long
- 14:55Speaker 1: David had known Catherine for. David said they had met
- 14:58Speaker 1: back in Ohio a few years ago while Catherine was
- 15:00Speaker 1: visiting her hometown. He had begun dating, and he had
- 15:03Speaker 1: ultimately moved out to New York to live with her,
- 15:05Speaker 1: but it wasn't long before Catherine broke up with him
- 15:08Speaker 1: and then asked him to move out, but David said
- 15:11Speaker 1: he had not been able to afford his own place,
- 15:13Speaker 1: so he had started sleeping in his car, and Catherine
- 15:17Speaker 1: had felt bad about that, so she had ultimately let
- 15:19Speaker 1: him move back in on the condition that he slept
- 15:22Speaker 1: on the futon out in the living room.
- 15:24Speaker 2: By now, Detective Gets His pen.
- 15:26Speaker 1: Was flying across the page because David was not just
- 15:29Speaker 1: Catherine's roommate, he was her ex boyfriend, an ex boyfriend
- 15:33Speaker 1: who was the last person to see Catherine alive and
- 15:36Speaker 1: discovered her body. Gets was more confident than ever that
- 15:39Speaker 1: he was sitting across from Catherine's killer. He told David
- 15:42Speaker 1: that everything he was saying was incredibly helpful, but right
- 15:45Speaker 1: now he needed to go check on something. David agreed
- 15:48Speaker 1: to wait, and Get stood up to leave, but he
- 15:50Speaker 1: stopped at the door and he asked David for one
- 15:53Speaker 1: last thing before he left.
- 15:54Speaker 2: He asked what his shoe size.
- 15:56Speaker 1: Was, and without missing a beat, David answered that he
- 15:59Speaker 1: wore a tenant half. Gets jotted this down and then
- 16:02Speaker 1: he left. What he hadn't told David was the reason
- 16:05Speaker 1: he was stepping out of the room was to go
- 16:07Speaker 1: get some information from the NYPD's forensics team and the
- 16:10Speaker 1: uniformed officers who were currently questioning David's neighbors, and once
- 16:15Speaker 1: Gets had that information, he was going to use it
- 16:17Speaker 1: to try to catch David and a lie. About nineteen
- 16:25Speaker 1: hours later, so about three pm the next day, Gets
- 16:28Speaker 1: was sitting at his desk, feeling completely exhausted, but was
- 16:32Speaker 1: pounding yet another cup of coffee. He'd been up all
- 16:35Speaker 1: night interrogating David, who was still literally sitting right down
- 16:38Speaker 1: the hall in the interrogation room, and also Gets have
- 16:41Speaker 1: been going back and forth with the forensics team and
- 16:43Speaker 1: other officers and detectives who were out in the neighborhood,
- 16:46Speaker 1: and he still had loads more to do before he
- 16:49Speaker 1: could finally go to sleep. Right now, Gets was going
- 16:52Speaker 1: over a new batch of reports from the uniformed officers
- 16:55Speaker 1: who had gone door to door in Catherine and David's
- 16:57Speaker 1: apartment building, asking the neighbors if they seen or heard
- 17:00Speaker 1: anything unusual, and just like Gets had hoped, the information
- 17:04Speaker 1: they were getting did contradict pieces of David's story. David
- 17:08Speaker 1: claimed that he had left the apartment at about six
- 17:10Speaker 1: forty pm and said that at that time Catherine was fine,
- 17:14Speaker 1: but two neighbors said they heard screams coming from the
- 17:17Speaker 1: apartment before six forty pm. The man in the unit
- 17:21Speaker 1: directly above David and Catherine said he had heard three
- 17:24Speaker 1: screams at six twenty eight pm, and the people in
- 17:27Speaker 1: the unit next door to David and Catherine said they'd
- 17:30Speaker 1: heard screaming, barking, and the sound of furniture moving around
- 17:34Speaker 1: even earlier, between five forty five.
- 17:36Speaker 2: And six pm.
- 17:37Speaker 1: Now, none of these neighbors had done anything about these noises,
- 17:40Speaker 1: because the noises had stopped pretty quickly. And then there
- 17:43Speaker 1: was Brad Stewart, the neighbor who had said he.
- 17:45Speaker 2: Had found the black dog.
- 17:47Speaker 1: Brad told police that when he ran into David in
- 17:49Speaker 1: the hallway it was sometime between six and six thirty,
- 17:52Speaker 1: but David had said that he went back up to
- 17:53Speaker 1: the apartment and found Catherine's body at about seven pm,
- 17:57Speaker 1: a full half hour later. Now, gets new witness were
- 18:00Speaker 1: often bad with time, and in a dense New York
- 18:03Speaker 1: City apartment building, there were lots of noises coming from
- 18:05Speaker 1: lots of units. But still it looked to him like
- 18:08Speaker 1: David's alibi had serious problems, and so the detective sat
- 18:12Speaker 1: back and had some more coffee, and then his phone rang.
- 18:15Speaker 1: He picked it up and it was the forensics team
- 18:17Speaker 1: with an update about those shoeprints that were on Catherine's
- 18:20Speaker 1: shirt and the bed sheets, and the prints were indeed
- 18:24Speaker 1: left behind by a roughly average sized man. They were
- 18:28Speaker 1: Amen's size ten and a half and this was the
- 18:31Speaker 1: exact size Gets new David wore.
- 18:34Speaker 2: Gets thanked them.
- 18:35Speaker 1: Hung up the phone, and then rushed back to the
- 18:38Speaker 1: interrogation room to have yet another chat with David Han.
- 18:42Speaker 1: This time, though Gets did not offer David a water,
- 18:44Speaker 1: He just sat down and he confronted him with all
- 18:47Speaker 1: these new facts. He told David that the killer shoe
- 18:49Speaker 1: prints were exactly his shoe size, that his neighbors had
- 18:52Speaker 1: heard screams before David had supposedly left the building, and
- 18:56Speaker 1: that Brad said he'd seen David in the hallway at
- 18:59Speaker 1: least a half an hour or earlier than David had
- 19:01Speaker 1: claimed he was there. Gets leaned in and told David
- 19:04Speaker 1: that there were also security cameras in the apartment building
- 19:07Speaker 1: and his officers were already in the process of getting
- 19:09Speaker 1: access to that footage. So if David had anything to say,
- 19:13Speaker 1: you'd better say it now. Gets watched as David's expression
- 19:16Speaker 1: went from exhausted to clearly afraid, it seemed like this
- 19:20Speaker 1: might be the first time that David realized the police
- 19:23Speaker 1: truly did not believe his story, and after a second
- 19:26Speaker 1: of just stunned silence, David insisted that he had not
- 19:30Speaker 1: killed Catherine, and he begged Gets to believe him, But
- 19:33Speaker 1: when Gets just glared back at him completely unmoved, David
- 19:37Speaker 1: launched into a whole news story, one he had not
- 19:40Speaker 1: mentioned at all over the last twenty hours of interrogation.
- 19:45Speaker 1: David said Catherine knew this guy named Paul Cortes. She
- 19:49Speaker 1: had dated him, but David had always thought he was
- 19:51Speaker 1: kind of a creep, and David said Catherine had told
- 19:54Speaker 1: him that Paul was obsessed with her. So David said,
- 19:58Speaker 1: the police really ought to go and bea investigate Paul,
- 20:01Speaker 1: not him. To Gets, this seemed like a desperate, last
- 20:04Speaker 1: minute attempt to cast suspicion on somebody else, but he
- 20:08Speaker 1: knew he did have to follow every lead, so he
- 20:10Speaker 1: did write down Paul's name and told David they'd look
- 20:13Speaker 1: into it. When Getz finally left the station for the evening,
- 20:16Speaker 1: David was still in the interrogation room and reporters from
- 20:20Speaker 1: all the daily papers were beginning to assemble right outside.
- 20:32Speaker 1: The following morning, the story of Catherine's murder and pictures
- 20:36Speaker 1: of her smiling face were all over the news. The
- 20:39Speaker 1: front page of the New York Daily News carried a
- 20:41Speaker 1: headline that made Getz grimace. It read secret life of
- 20:45Speaker 1: slain stripper. Inside the article reported that Catherine's family hadn't
- 20:50Speaker 1: known she was working as a topless dancer until they
- 20:53Speaker 1: literally flew to the city from Ohio to collect her body.
- 20:56Speaker 1: Gets skimmed the article at his desk. He wasn't convinced
- 20:59Speaker 1: that Catherine's line of work had anything to do with
- 21:01Speaker 1: their murderer, but the papers seemed intent on running with it,
- 21:05Speaker 1: and am media circus was like the last thing Gets wanted.
- 21:08Speaker 1: His team was already under enough pressure to make an
- 21:10Speaker 1: arrest as it was, and it was going to be
- 21:12Speaker 1: even harder to do their jobs now that a bunch
- 21:14Speaker 1: of tips were going to be flooding in from the
- 21:16Speaker 1: public from all this media, Gets put down the newspaper,
- 21:19Speaker 1: got up from his desk and walked down the hall
- 21:21Speaker 1: to the interrogation room. He'd finished the day yesterday, feeling
- 21:24Speaker 1: pretty confident that David was his murderer, so when he'd
- 21:28Speaker 1: sent David home, he had given him instructions not to
- 21:31Speaker 1: leave the city because he intended to arrest David and
- 21:34Speaker 1: soon the first Gets did need to.
- 21:36Speaker 2: Follow up on the other leads.
- 21:38Speaker 1: He had to hopefully rule them out, and one of
- 21:41Speaker 1: those leads was sitting in the interrogation room right now
- 21:43Speaker 1: waiting for him. It was Paul Cortes, the man that
- 21:46Speaker 1: David had named, who officers at track Down and brought
- 21:48Speaker 1: in the man who supposedly was obsessed with Catherine. As
- 21:52Speaker 1: soon as Gets entered the room, the first thing he
- 21:54Speaker 1: did was look at Paul's schues, and he could see
- 21:57Speaker 1: that they were a pretty typical size too. At a glance,
- 22:00Speaker 1: they looked like they could also be a ten and
- 22:02Speaker 1: a half. Gets also looked for scratches or bruises on
- 22:05Speaker 1: Paul's skin, in particular on his forearms and his hands,
- 22:09Speaker 1: and he did see one. There was a small injury
- 22:11Speaker 1: on one of Paul's fingertips. Gets asked about it and
- 22:14Speaker 1: Paul said his finger had just gotten pinched between a
- 22:16Speaker 1: couple of weights at the gym. Paul was very calm
- 22:18Speaker 1: and soft spoken, and he said he'd heard all about
- 22:21Speaker 1: Catherine's death in the papers, and he just wanted to
- 22:23Speaker 1: help if he could. When Getz told him that they'd
- 22:26Speaker 1: gotten his name from David Hahn, Paul just kind of
- 22:28Speaker 1: rolled his eyes and said, you know, David had always
- 22:30Speaker 1: been jealous of his relationship with Catherine. Paul explained that
- 22:34Speaker 1: he had met Catherine at the gym about a year
- 22:35Speaker 1: ago and they'd been dating off and on ever since.
- 22:38Speaker 2: At the time of Catherine's death, he.
- 22:40Speaker 1: Said they had been off, but Paul said he still
- 22:42Speaker 1: cared about her and had hoped that maybe one day
- 22:44Speaker 1: they might get back together. Paul told Getz that he
- 22:47Speaker 1: hadn't actually seen Catherine on the day of her death,
- 22:50Speaker 1: but that he had actually spoken to her on the
- 22:52Speaker 1: phone earlier that afternoon, which was not unusual. The two
- 22:55Speaker 1: did speak on the phone from time to time, that's
- 22:57Speaker 1: all it was. Paul said he actually had tried calling
- 22:59Speaker 1: her a second time that day, but she didn't answer,
- 23:02Speaker 1: but Paul said he really didn't think much of it.
- 23:04Speaker 1: And then Paul said that night he wound up going
- 23:06Speaker 1: shopping with some friends and then also to a local.
- 23:08Speaker 2: Bar to watch the Jets game.
- 23:10Speaker 1: At about eight thirty, gets made a note to follow
- 23:13Speaker 1: up on Paul's alibi. Then he asked Paul if he
- 23:16Speaker 1: had any idea who might have killed Catherine. Paul thought
- 23:19Speaker 1: for a moment, and then his eyes lit up, and
- 23:21Speaker 1: he said there had been some stalker guy named Joe
- 23:23Speaker 1: who'd been one of Catherine's regulars at the strip club,
- 23:26Speaker 1: you know, months ago. He'd somehow gotten Catherine's phone number
- 23:29Speaker 1: and had reached out to her outside of the club,
- 23:31Speaker 1: And around that same time, Catherine had actually gotten roofied
- 23:35Speaker 1: during one of her strip club shifts.
- 23:37Speaker 2: A roofie is called the date rape drug.
- 23:39Speaker 1: It basically makes you incapacitated and effectively unconscious. You don't
- 23:42Speaker 1: remember anything. People will be given a roofie and then
- 23:45Speaker 1: be sexually assaulted. That's often its use, and even though
- 23:48Speaker 1: he'd never been able to prove this, Paul always suspected
- 23:51Speaker 1: it had been Joe who gave Katherine that roofie. Catherine
- 23:55Speaker 1: had cut off contact with Joe, but the whole incident
- 23:57Speaker 1: had bothered Paul so much that he'd tried to convince
- 24:00Speaker 1: Catherine to just quit the exotic dancing scene, but she refused.
- 24:04Speaker 1: Paul admitted that he actually went on to call Catherine's
- 24:07Speaker 1: father to tell him how worried he was about her,
- 24:11Speaker 1: and Catherine had been so mad about that that she
- 24:13Speaker 1: stopped talking to Paul for weeks, and so Gets jotted
- 24:16Speaker 1: all this down and then asked Paul if he knew
- 24:18Speaker 1: how to get in touch with this guy, Joe.
- 24:20Speaker 2: Paul said he didn't have Joe's.
- 24:21Speaker 1: Number, but it was definitely in Catherine's phone because the
- 24:24Speaker 1: last time Paul ever spoke on the phone with Catherine,
- 24:27Speaker 1: on the afternoon of her death, she had mentioned something
- 24:30Speaker 1: that really surprised him. She said that, after months of silence,
- 24:34Speaker 1: Joe had started calling her again, completely out of the blue.
- 24:37Speaker 1: And at this Gets studied Paul's face, looking for any
- 24:41Speaker 1: hint of deception. This whole Joe's story seemed like it
- 24:44Speaker 1: might just be a way to deflect suspicion from Paul himself.
- 24:47Speaker 1: But it really didn't feel like Paul was lying here,
- 24:50Speaker 1: and besides, Catherine's phone records would be simple enough to verify.
- 24:53Speaker 1: Gets hated to admit it, but maybe the newspapers were right.
- 24:57Speaker 1: Maybe it was time he started looking seriously into some
- 25:00Speaker 1: Catherine's customers at the strip club. The following afternoon, on Wednesday,
- 25:11Speaker 1: November thirtieth. Detective Getz was feeling really annoyed as he
- 25:15Speaker 1: hung up the phone at his desk. It had been
- 25:17Speaker 1: a call from another reporter, but Gets hadn't made an
- 25:20Speaker 1: arrest yet, so he was staying tight lipt. But for now,
- 25:24Speaker 1: he just turned his focus back to the stack of
- 25:26Speaker 1: papers on his desk. They were Catherine's cell phone records,
- 25:28Speaker 1: which he'd subpoenaed yesterday, and they showed that Paul.
- 25:31Speaker 2: Had been telling the truth.
- 25:33Speaker 1: Both he and Joe had called Catherine shortly before she died,
- 25:37Speaker 1: so he'd brought in Joe for an interview, and he
- 25:39Speaker 1: asked him to explain why, after months of silence, he
- 25:43Speaker 1: had called Catherine right before she turned up dead, and
- 25:46Speaker 1: Joe had replied he'd only called her to check in
- 25:49Speaker 1: to say he hoped she had a nice Thanksgiving. He
- 25:51Speaker 1: had claimed that he was really just trying to be friendly,
- 25:53Speaker 1: but then Getz just asked Joe point blank if he
- 25:56Speaker 1: had ever roofed anyone's drink before, and at this Joe's
- 25:59Speaker 1: eyes went wide and he kind of spluttered out that
- 26:02Speaker 1: he would never dream of doing anything like that. But
- 26:05Speaker 1: based on Joe's tone, Gets really felt like he was
- 26:09Speaker 1: lying and so now Gets felt like the entire investigation
- 26:12Speaker 1: was wide open. A few days ago, he had been
- 26:15Speaker 1: absolutely confident that David was the killer, but men from
- 26:19Speaker 1: Catherine's life just kept coming out of the woodwork.
- 26:21Speaker 2: He now had three.
- 26:23Speaker 1: Main suspects instead of just one. In fact, at this point,
- 26:27Speaker 1: his original suspect, David, was actually looking more innocent. Gets
- 26:31Speaker 1: his officers had spoken to David's co workers at the
- 26:33Speaker 1: hotel where he worked as a dorman, and they confirmed
- 26:36Speaker 1: that he really had stopped and talked to them on
- 26:38Speaker 1: the evening of Catherine's death, just like he had claimed.
- 26:41Speaker 1: And while Getz had hoped that the security camera footage
- 26:43Speaker 1: from the apartment building would prove David was lying about
- 26:46Speaker 1: his alibi, at least in terms of when he was there,
- 26:49Speaker 1: had actually showed David leaving the front entrance of the
- 26:52Speaker 1: building at six thirty eight PM, which lined up with
- 26:55Speaker 1: David's story because he said he left around six point forty. Now,
- 26:59Speaker 1: this did not prove that David was innocent. Based on
- 27:01Speaker 1: what the neighbors had heard, she could have been killed
- 27:03Speaker 1: before six point thirty eight, but there weren't a lot
- 27:06Speaker 1: of cameras in the apartment building and no angle covered
- 27:09Speaker 1: the hallway outside of Apartment two D, so the footage
- 27:12Speaker 1: couldn't prove one way or another, you know, whether Brad
- 27:15Speaker 1: Stewart or anybody else for that matter, had gone into
- 27:18Speaker 1: the apartment while David was gone.
- 27:20Speaker 2: Just then his phone rang.
- 27:22Speaker 1: Gets reached for it, expecting it to be another reporter,
- 27:25Speaker 1: but this time he was pleasantly surprised. It was a
- 27:28Speaker 1: member of the forensics team, and there was this obvious
- 27:31Speaker 1: excitement in their voice. He told Getz that they'd just
- 27:34Speaker 1: discovered something big, something they completely missed during their first
- 27:38Speaker 1: sweep of Catherine's apartment. The forensics team member explained that
- 27:42Speaker 1: when they'd first entered Catherine's bedroom, they had taken that
- 27:45Speaker 1: mattress that was stuck behind the door and propped it
- 27:47Speaker 1: up against the wall to get it out of the way.
- 27:50Speaker 2: But when they'd done that.
- 27:51Speaker 1: The mattress had actually covered up something that was right
- 27:54Speaker 1: there on the wall, all along, a bloody handprint. It
- 27:58Speaker 1: was not until a couple of days later, after they'd
- 28:00Speaker 1: carefully gone over everything else in the room, that they
- 28:03Speaker 1: moved the mattress back down onto the floor, and that's
- 28:06Speaker 1: when they found the handprint. Gets His face lit up
- 28:09Speaker 1: when he heard this news because now he knew all
- 28:11Speaker 1: he had to do was go get handprints from all
- 28:14Speaker 1: of his suspects, which seemed like that would be pretty
- 28:16Speaker 1: easy to do, but he quickly realized he had a
- 28:19Speaker 1: problem because some of his suspects had already lawyered up
- 28:22Speaker 1: at this point, and they were refusing to speak with police,
- 28:25Speaker 1: let alone hand over their prints, and Gets really could
- 28:28Speaker 1: not force them to give their prints unless he arrested them,
- 28:32Speaker 1: and so that meant Gets was now in this weird
- 28:34Speaker 1: catch twenty two because he needed the suspects prints in
- 28:37Speaker 1: order to make the arrest, but he also couldn't get
- 28:40Speaker 1: their prints unless he arrested them. So at this point,
- 28:43Speaker 1: the investigation kind of stalled out. Weeks went by, and
- 28:46Speaker 1: Detective Gets started to get really frustrated because there was
- 28:50Speaker 1: just nothing he could legally do to push the case forward. However,
- 28:54Speaker 1: the case was still receiving a ton of coverage in
- 28:56Speaker 1: the press, and to a lot of people it looked
- 28:59Speaker 1: like the NYP was just sort of dropping the ball here.
- 29:02Speaker 1: But then on December sixteenth, so three weeks after Catherine's murder,
- 29:06Speaker 1: the news coverage that had annoyed Gets so much actually
- 29:10Speaker 1: ended up giving.
- 29:11Speaker 2: Him exactly what he needed.
- 29:13Speaker 1: That day, a woman called the NYPD because of something
- 29:16Speaker 1: she had seen on the front page of one of
- 29:19Speaker 1: the newspapers in New York, and what this woman said
- 29:23Speaker 1: led gets directly to Catherine's killer. Based on forensic evidence
- 29:30Speaker 1: and numerous interviews, this is what police believe happened to
- 29:33Speaker 1: Catherine Woods. On the evening of November twenty seventh, two
- 29:37Speaker 1: thousand and five, shortly after six forty pm, the killer
- 29:46Speaker 1: climbed the stairs inside of Catherine's apartment building. They knew
- 29:49Speaker 1: that at that very moment she'd be getting ready for
- 29:52Speaker 1: another shift at Flash Dancers, and the fact that she
- 29:55Speaker 1: even worked there secretly really bothered the killer way more
- 29:59Speaker 1: than they would ever let on. The idea of Catherine
- 30:01Speaker 1: dancing and giving her attention to other men made the
- 30:04Speaker 1: killer so jealous they couldn't even stand it.
- 30:07Speaker 2: Now.
- 30:07Speaker 1: The killer had tried to talk with Catherine and win
- 30:10Speaker 1: her over, but she had rejected him. So the time
- 30:14Speaker 1: for talking was over, and so the killer quietly walked
- 30:17Speaker 1: up to the door of Apartment two D and reached
- 30:19Speaker 1: down and turned the handle, which was unlocked. As they
- 30:23Speaker 1: slipped silently into the apartment, the killer brought out the
- 30:26Speaker 1: knife that they had hidden inside of their sweatshirt. But
- 30:28Speaker 1: then something they had not anticipated happened. There was this
- 30:32Speaker 1: dog lying on the apartment floor that got up and
- 30:35Speaker 1: began to bark at them. For a moment, the killer
- 30:38Speaker 1: thought about just abandoning the plan and leaving, but then Catherine,
- 30:41Speaker 1: alerted by the dog, came out of the bedroom and
- 30:44Speaker 1: looked right at the killer and saw the knife in
- 30:47Speaker 1: their hand. Catherine screamed and ran right back into her bedroom,
- 30:51Speaker 1: the very bedroom that she had made explicitly off limits
- 30:54Speaker 1: to the killer, And just thinking about that, the surge
- 30:57Speaker 1: of anger suddenly overtook them, and the killer charged into
- 31:01Speaker 1: the room after her. Catherine was already on the other
- 31:04Speaker 1: side of the bed, lifting up the mattress as a
- 31:06Speaker 1: sort of barricade, but the killer just forced their way
- 31:09Speaker 1: past it, and they grabbed Catherine from behind. But Catherine
- 31:12Speaker 1: she fought back. She began thrashing around, doing everything she
- 31:16Speaker 1: could to break free, but she couldn't, and so they
- 31:19Speaker 1: struggled and began smashing into the furniture and knocking things
- 31:22Speaker 1: down all over the room. And it was around this
- 31:25Speaker 1: point that the killer lifted up that knife they had
- 31:27Speaker 1: brought and they slit her neck as deep as they could.
- 31:31Speaker 1: But even then, even with this fatal wound, Catherine kept
- 31:35Speaker 1: on fighting, and she was so vicious that the killer
- 31:38Speaker 1: actually had to brace themselves against a wall just to
- 31:41Speaker 1: keep their balance. And in the chaos, the killer didn't realize,
- 31:45Speaker 1: you know, as they're fighting off Catherine, that they had
- 31:47Speaker 1: placed a bloody hand on the wall, leaving a print behind. Finally,
- 31:52Speaker 1: when Catherine fell to the floor, the killer was still
- 31:55Speaker 1: blinded with their rage, and they just got down.
- 31:58Speaker 2: There and began stabbing her over and over again.
- 32:01Speaker 1: And then finally, when Catherine stopped moving, the killer just jumped.
- 32:05Speaker 2: Up and ran out of the apartment.
- 32:08Speaker 1: But when they got into the hallway, they realized that
- 32:10Speaker 1: black dog that had barked at them had gotten out.
- 32:14Speaker 1: Now the killer wanted the dog back in the apartment,
- 32:16Speaker 1: but the dog was clearly on edge they were still
- 32:19Speaker 1: barking at the killer, and so instead the killer just
- 32:21Speaker 1: shut the apartment door, trapping the dog in the hallway,
- 32:24Speaker 1: and then the killer fled the apartment building out the
- 32:27Speaker 1: back door, where there was no security camera, and for
- 32:30Speaker 1: weeks the killer was not caught until their violent past
- 32:35Speaker 1: came back to bite them. Several weeks after Catherine's murder,
- 32:39Speaker 1: a young woman who didn't know Catherine was walking down
- 32:42Speaker 1: the streets of New York when she noticed a newspaper
- 32:45Speaker 1: and on the cover of this newspaper was plastered the
- 32:48Speaker 1: face of the killer, who was currently a suspect in
- 32:51Speaker 1: a murder case. And this woman was horrified because she
- 32:55Speaker 1: knew this person. They the killer had sexually assaulted her
- 32:59Speaker 1: at a year earlier, but she had never filed a
- 33:02Speaker 1: police report. But after seeing that this horrible person was
- 33:06Speaker 1: being actively accused of murder, she called the NYPD and
- 33:11Speaker 1: she told them what she knew, and the NYPD's Special
- 33:13Speaker 1: Victims Unit used this woman's accusation as the basis to
- 33:18Speaker 1: arrest the killer, and finally, once they were under arrest,
- 33:22Speaker 1: Getz was able to get their handprint, and those prints
- 33:26Speaker 1: did in fact match the bloody handprint found on Catherine's wall.
- 33:30Speaker 1: They belonged to Catherine's on again, off again boyfriend, Paul Cortes.
- 33:36Speaker 1: David's suspicions of Paul had been right all along. Paul
- 33:39Speaker 1: was a creep who had assaulted at least one other
- 33:41Speaker 1: woman before he killed Catherine. Data collected from nearby cell
- 33:45Speaker 1: towers would prove that Paul was near Catherine's apartment building
- 33:49Speaker 1: immediately before her murder, and he had been calling her
- 33:53Speaker 1: over and over again when she ignored his calls. Paul
- 33:57Speaker 1: waited until he saw David leave the apartment to go
- 33:59Speaker 1: get his car, and then he hustled upstairs to the apartment,
- 34:03Speaker 1: knowing Catherine would be alone. Even though David was only
- 34:06Speaker 1: gone for twenty minutes, that was still long enough for
- 34:09Speaker 1: Paul to get inside the apartment, murder Catherine and slip
- 34:12Speaker 1: away unnoticed. Paul was arrested about a month after Catherine's
- 34:17Speaker 1: murder on Wednesday, December twenty third, two thousand and five.
- 34:20Speaker 1: He was found guilty of second degree murder and sentenced
- 34:23Speaker 1: to twenty.
- 34:23Speaker 2: Five years to life. Thank you so much for watching.
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