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Would you leave your home if your neighbourhood became a nightlife hotspot? · Anele and the Club on 947

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  Speaker 1: Wake up with a bang. Hey, wake up! And can
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  Speaker 1: you imagine where you stay right now?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That at least once a week, twice a week, you
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  Speaker 1: wake up on a Thursday morning, like let's say five
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  Speaker 1: in the morning, on a Saturday morning, and this is
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  Speaker 1: what you hear. I'm going to admit, for the first
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  Speaker 1: time I would wake up and join them, but afterwards
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  Speaker 1: it would get really annoying. There is a suburb down
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  Speaker 1: in Durban that is going through the most. Twice, three
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  Speaker 1: times a week, there is just this huge party that
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  Speaker 1: develops out of nowhere. No one knows where it started.
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  Speaker 1: No one knows who organized it. There's just thousands of people,
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  Speaker 1: cars everywhere, and music.
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  Speaker 3: It's basically a full street that gets taken over.
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  Speaker 4: So that's why.
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  Speaker 3: Imagine where you're staying now. Imagine your main street just
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  Speaker 3: gets taken over and it's one gigantic party all through
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  Speaker 3: the night.
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  Speaker 1: I got this off News 24. Berea residents say weekend
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  Speaker 1: nightlife is causing excessive noise, traffic, overcrowding, litter in the
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  Speaker 1: residential areas. Ward 33 Councillor France Christopher is demanding answers
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  Speaker 1: over the alleged lack of Metro Police enforcement and response
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  Speaker 1: to residents' complaints. A resident of more than 15 years
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  Speaker 1: says the disruption has become so severe that she's considering
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  Speaker 1: selling her home and leaving the area. And that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way you're going to sell your house at
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  Speaker 1: the right price here because everybody knows what's going on
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  Speaker 1: down there, right? Yeah. Everyone knows that twice a week here,
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  Speaker 1: get changes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's just a big party.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, unless you find the organizer of the event because
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  Speaker 5: they'd probably give you top price for your house. But
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  Speaker 5: the reality is that where are the cops? Because there
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  Speaker 5: must be laws around just huge gatherings in streets, et cetera.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, we all know you can't put an event
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  Speaker 5: together without some sort of city approval.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, jock. Jock approval.
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  Speaker 5: That kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: So where are all those people?
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  Speaker 6: Is this happening at a venue or at a home,
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  Speaker 6: at a house?
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  Speaker 1: Residential area. In the road.
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  Speaker 7: Here we go.
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  Speaker 1: We've got one of the residents. Her name is Louise. Louise,
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  Speaker 1: good morning. Thank you so much for giving us your time.
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  Speaker 1: And I hope that you got a good night's rest today.
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  Speaker 1: There was no ruckus noise outside.
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  Speaker 7: Hello there. Yes, I got a good night's sleep. During
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  Speaker 7: the week, it's not quite as bad as over the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: And over the weekend, what times are we looking at?
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  Speaker 1: Is it Friday and Saturday? And when does it end?
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  Speaker 1: Five in the morning, six in the morning, does it end?
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  Speaker 7: Yes, a normal weekend is actually very, very bad. You know,
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  Speaker 7: all the residents living in the surrounding areas are bombarded
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  Speaker 7: with these party goers. All the side roads. There's actually
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  Speaker 7: a whole road, Davenport Road in Glenwood.
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  Speaker 4: Hmm.
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  Speaker 7: That it used to be restaurants, they've all turned, most
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  Speaker 7: of them have turned into clubs, which are, you know,
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  Speaker 7: they don't have the relevant documentation and licenses and that
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  Speaker 7: type of thing. And cars are triple parked. All the
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  Speaker 7: side roads, they block all the entrances after they leave
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  Speaker 7: the clubs. They party in the road and the people
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  Speaker 7: have been up in arms for absolute years. There is
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  Speaker 7: no enforcement whatsoever.
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  Speaker 3: So I just want to make it clear so we
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  Speaker 3: can all visualize this. So you say it's a street
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  Speaker 3: and there's a whole bunch of clubs that are on
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  Speaker 3: the street. Those are inside, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, they're all.
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  Speaker 7: I'd say there's about 10 clubs. And, you know, a
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  Speaker 7: normal weekend is absolute chaos.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 7: And the noise level is, you know, everybody's playing their
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  Speaker 7: own music. Every club is playing their own music. And
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  Speaker 7: they carry on until the early hours.
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  Speaker 2: Of the morning.
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  Speaker 3: So, Louise, is this an issue with the clubs or
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  Speaker 3: people then partying on the street?
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  Speaker 1: Afterwards.
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  Speaker 3: On itself, outside?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Both.
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  Speaker 7: I would say both. Because the clubs get.
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  Speaker 1: So full that people.
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  Speaker 7: Spill onto the street.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, yes.
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  Speaker 7: And then they have boot parties with their cooler boxes.
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  Speaker 7: But last Saturday, there must have been, we heard, about
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  Speaker 7: 5,000 people. It was a student event. And we don't
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  Speaker 7: think it was organized by any particular club. Apparently an
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  Speaker 7: influencer called everybody to Davenport Road and it's become a
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  Speaker 7: thing now that, you know, apparently in September there's going
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  Speaker 7: to be another one and in October.
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  Speaker 7: And that carries on, I think it was Saturday night,
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  Speaker 7: it carried on till five in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: And when you call the cops, because surely noise restrictions
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  Speaker 1: ends at what, two o'clock in the morning, right? So
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  Speaker 1: when you call your local police at two o'clock and
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  Speaker 1: you say, hey, what happens? Like, do the cops come?
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  Speaker 1: Do they shut it down? Do they get back to
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  Speaker 1: you and say, we've shut it down? Do they ring?
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  Speaker 4: No, nothing.
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  Speaker 7: Nothing happens. Often people are phoning 101, they can't get through,
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  Speaker 7: they get put on hold, they get cut off. But
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  Speaker 7: we've had a very big meeting on Tuesday night with
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  Speaker 7: Metro and SAPS. and hopefully they're now going to put
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  Speaker 7: some plans in place.
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  Speaker 3: To try and stop this. Okay, thank you, Louise. Thank
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  Speaker 3: you so much.
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  Speaker 4: Good luck.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. We'll follow the story quite closely. Let's also
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  Speaker 1: chat to Heather Bruce, who's the chairperson of the Bulwa
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  Speaker 1: Safety and Urban Regeneration Forum. Heather, what does that mean,
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  Speaker 1: this entire title? What does it mean, and what can
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  Speaker 1: you do about the situation that Louise is in?
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  Speaker 8: Hi, thank you for inviting me onto the program. The
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  Speaker 8: Bulwark Safety and Urban Regeneration has been going for a
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  Speaker 8: number of years now. I think we're going on to
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  Speaker 8: our 16th year of being operational in the Glenwood area.
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  Speaker 8: So basically, we've also now gone into sort of becoming
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  Speaker 8: the Glenwood Rape Payers and Residents Association. So we work
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  Speaker 8: with the two groups. And what we basically do is
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  Speaker 8: we fight for the rights of the rape players and
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  Speaker 8: residents in the Glenwood and surrounding areas. So, you know,
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  Speaker 8: we also do upliftment projects in the area. And then
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  Speaker 8: when we've got issues like we had on Saturday, we've
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  Speaker 8: been fighting this issue of Helen Joseph, which previously was
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  Speaker 8: the Davenport Road project. but it's now Helen Joseph. We've
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  Speaker 8: been fighting this issue now for a number of years.
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  Speaker 8: We've had a number of meetings over this. Where we've
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  Speaker 8: been saying to the authorities, yes, every weekend it's bad.
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  Speaker 8: You know, the Uber drivers triple park. You cannot drive
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  Speaker 8: down this road. You cannot walk down this road. It
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  Speaker 8: becomes what happens is the restaurants who... after a certain
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  Speaker 8: hour changing to a club.
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  Speaker 1: So the restaurant license is a restaurant license and then
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  Speaker 1: it becomes a club. But surely that's the first place
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  Speaker 1: you can knock it legally because there are clubs and
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  Speaker 1: restaurants have got different rules and regulations and different licenses.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So why is it taking so long to uphold that
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  Speaker 1: part of the deal?
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  Speaker 8: You know, the thing is there has been like sort
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  Speaker 8: of raids. There's been checkups of the different licenses, etc.,
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  Speaker 8: But the problem is you have to get all the
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  Speaker 8: departments together to work on this together. But you have
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  Speaker 8: some departments.
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  Speaker 1: It's illegal.
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  Speaker 8: This is why we all lift in our hands and say,
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  Speaker 8: you know, what is going on? They go and find
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  Speaker 8: the restaurant. And then that is what is what. And,
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  Speaker 8: you know, we've been saying to them, the more you
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  Speaker 8: leave it, it's like a store that faces. If you
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  Speaker 8: don't see to it, it's going to erupt. And this
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  Speaker 8: is what happened on Saturday night.
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  Speaker 1: 5,000 people.
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  Speaker 6: So, Heather, just more specifically, Heather, what do the bylaws
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  Speaker 6: say about the hours of operation for the clubs on
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  Speaker 6: that strip, right? Because there isn't a national, I think,
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  Speaker 6: a universal rule in terms of when you can close.
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  Speaker 6: Some can close at 2, but there are places that
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  Speaker 6: are still open around 4 in the morning, for example.
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  Speaker 6: But also for the people who own these businesses, if
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  Speaker 6: police don't have the capacity to manage a crowd of
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  Speaker 6: thousands of people... What are they doing? What responsibility are
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  Speaker 6: they taking for the management of those crowds?
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  Speaker 8: Okay, so yes, you are correct. A normal restaurant license,
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  Speaker 8: they are supposed to be fully closed at 2 a.m.
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  Speaker 8: So not still serving drinks up until 2 a.m. They
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  Speaker 8: are supposed to be fully, fully closed at 2 a.m.
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  Speaker 8: Your clubs have got a license to go a bit longer,
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  Speaker 8: but these are not clubs. These are restaurants, so they
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  Speaker 8: should be closed. But what is happening, obviously now they're
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  Speaker 8: serving right up until 2 o'clock, some of them. So
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  Speaker 8: then what happens, the people are still in their party
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  Speaker 8: mode and they fill out onto the streets. And this
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  Speaker 8: party continues in the roads, in the streets, etc. And
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  Speaker 8: this is raining. the noise for the residents is becoming
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  Speaker 8: so much. And also, you must imagine you've got 10
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  Speaker 8: restaurants in the area now operating at Naitama Club, all
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  Speaker 8: playing different, loud, blaring music. And then people forget. and
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  Speaker 8: the restaurants we get, and the people that tell us, well,
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  Speaker 8: why don't you just move out and go to live
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  Speaker 8: in the suburbs?
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  Speaker 1: No, that's not the solution. That's not the solution. I
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  Speaker 1: live here. And the thing, here's the thing. It's because
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  Speaker 1: everybody's trying to make a little bit more money, right?
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  Speaker 1: Because restaurants now have assessed that, oh, if we become
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  Speaker 1: a club... after a certain time so we can sell
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  Speaker 1: food and drinks here then we become a club then
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  Speaker 1: the hubby comes out and then the drinks come out
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  Speaker 1: and then let's put a little dj set there and
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  Speaker 1: people can dj so now we've got a party strip
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  Speaker 1: which was not the intended outcome.
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  Speaker 3: For that strip right now imagine there's 10 of those
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  Speaker 3: imagine 10 restaurants decide they're all gonna do this that's
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  Speaker 3: what's happened there Now you've got a whole street of
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  Speaker 3: just clubs.
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  Speaker 1: 011-8838-947. This is down in Durban in Berea, but it
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  Speaker 1: is also happening here in Johannesburg, right? We want to
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  Speaker 1: know from your end, in your area, is there, just
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  Speaker 1: like this establishment, and this is the thing to what
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  Speaker 1: Louise and Heather were saying, It starts with 100 people.
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  Speaker 1: Then it's 500 people. Then people get wind of it.
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  Speaker 1: Then it becomes like a cult following. Then it's 1,000. Now,
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  Speaker 1: imagine where you live right now. Just imagine on the
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  Speaker 1: street where you live, you drove out, and there were
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  Speaker 1: 5,000 people there having a party.
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  Speaker 3: That is a wild number.
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  Speaker 1: It's a slippery slope, guys.
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  Speaker 3: It's a wild number there.
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  Speaker 1: It's a slippery slope. And this is the thing. We
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  Speaker 1: need to chat to someone. I think we've got one
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  Speaker 1: of the police officers down in KwaZulu-Natal. His name is
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  Speaker 1: Boise Zungu, Metro Police spokesperson. We want to know, what
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  Speaker 1: are you guys doing about it? Because if we have
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  Speaker 1: to apply for, with jog and with, you know, to
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  Speaker 1: get a license, to get a liquor license and that,
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  Speaker 1: that we always keeping outside of the law when we're
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  Speaker 1: applying to have parties. How come they're not doing it?
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  Speaker 1: Because obviously those parties are not approved by local government.
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  Speaker 1: And how do you control it?
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  Speaker 3: So like with the police, because if it's just people
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  Speaker 3: randomly pitching up in the middle of the street, how
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  Speaker 3: do you control that?
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  Speaker 1: This is wild. But we said here in Joburg, there's
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  Speaker 1: another one. Tim Bigelow's got problems every Friday morning on
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  Speaker 1: the way. Find out about that. I feel bad for
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  Speaker 1: that woman, but the FOMO. I also want to go
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  Speaker 1: to Davenport Street too now.
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  Speaker 9: There used to be a party at BP, not too
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  Speaker 9: far from Davenport Road. Every Friday, every weekend, BP on
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  Speaker 9: Mall Road. It used to be a jump. Now that
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  Speaker 9: I'm older, I regret and I'm sorry to the residents.
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  Speaker 1: In Dranbeck, there is a place called Nova Bar. When
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  Speaker 1: all the places close, everyone goes to Nova Bar and
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  Speaker 1: it's in a residential area. I feel sad for people
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  Speaker 1: being here.
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  Speaker 10: The problem is that this place has lots of students, right?
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  Speaker 10: And the city has become so strict on allowing these
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  Speaker 10: students who used to do this at the beachfront. Now
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  Speaker 10: they're not allowed to go and convene and do whatever
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  Speaker 10: at the beachfront. So they've decided to gather where they're
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  Speaker 10: close to their student res and so forth.
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  Speaker 1: I just need the location of Nova Bar for research purposes.
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  Speaker 6: No, like the other guy who said Navigasomo. When I
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  Speaker 6: heard Big Naz, Newland West, I was like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: This does not sound like a bad morning alarm. The
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  Speaker 6: year was 2009, baby.
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  Speaker 1: Tunzi, you say you're from Durban. You live in Bryanston
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  Speaker 1: right now, so you're from Durban, so you know exactly
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  Speaker 1: what's potting there.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, morning, guys.
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  Speaker 7: How are you?
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  Speaker 3: Morning.
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  Speaker 11: Good, and you?
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  Speaker 6: Good, good.
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  Speaker 11: So basically the area, there's been a lot of student
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  Speaker 11: accommodation mushrooming, right? Because there's no regulation per se that
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  Speaker 11: stops them. If you own a house there, you can
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  Speaker 11: just turn it into student accommodation. And that's what's been happening.
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  Speaker 11: So they really can't control it because right now you've
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  Speaker 11: got UKZN, which is two kilometers away from that street,
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  Speaker 11: which is a big campus. You've got DUT down the road,
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  Speaker 11: which is about four kilometers away from that street. And
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  Speaker 11: you can imagine that area probably has about 20,000 students.
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  Speaker 11: So what happens is when students get paid, because this
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  Speaker 11: happened last week when they got their allowances, students now
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  Speaker 11: get their allowances in their pockets. So you're looking at
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  Speaker 11: about 1.7, 1.9. Right. So if there's four of you
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  Speaker 11: in the room, you'll take the money for the two,
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  Speaker 11: go buy groceries. and then take money for the two
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  Speaker 11: and go have fun. So the blessers in the area
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  Speaker 11: definitely know where to find the girls on weekends. So
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  Speaker 11: now it's 70% students that are coming to have fun
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  Speaker 11: with their little money, which is going to last up
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  Speaker 11: until like 12 o'clock. Then you've got these blessers who
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  Speaker 11: are going to come, who are going to run the
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  Speaker 11: party till the morning.
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  Speaker 1: And Durban has got a very big culture of Bulaput.
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  Speaker 1: Even if there's a concert. Michael Jackson could have come
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  Speaker 1: to Durban. We wouldn't buy tickets to go into the concert.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to go to the stadium, park outside Bulaput.
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  Speaker 1: So this is what's happening there.
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  Speaker 11: And remember, these are 18-year-olds, 17-year-olds.
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  Speaker 4: Just first years.
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  Speaker 11: They do not care. They do not care about the bylaws.
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  Speaker 11: The restaurant is going to close, but they're going to
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  Speaker 11: sit outside and continue with their morning bang. This is
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  Speaker 11: happening in Guamashu. You should go and search the videos
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  Speaker 11: of Guamashu on residential streets. There will be a sound
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  Speaker 11: system on the streets.
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  Speaker 1: You don't need a few guys.
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  Speaker 6: You've got the strength of a demon at 19. You
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  Speaker 6: can keep going for hours.
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  Speaker 11: Exactly. Substances are involved as well. And we've been trying
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  Speaker 11: as student documentation owners, we've been trying to speak to
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  Speaker 11: universities to say, hey, we need some sort of campaign. Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: And also these boys gamble a lot and the girls
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  Speaker 11: gamble a lot. So you'll find that they won 10,000
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  Speaker 11: or 20,000. on these platforms don't go and drink so
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  Speaker 11: there is a gambling addiction and drug addiction and alcohol addiction.
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  Speaker 1: But then Tunzi should it not be the responsibility of
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  Speaker 1: the restaurants to kind of help you know enforce the
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  Speaker 1: bylaws because if people are still partying outside your restaurant
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  Speaker 1: and they were in your restaurant what are we saying
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  Speaker 1: to restaurants okay fine when you close your doors at
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  Speaker 1: midnight that's it we've absolved you of all responsibility.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, so I've closed my doors. I've followed the bylaws.
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  Speaker 11: If you're sitting on the pavement, then it's the municipality's problem.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Tunzi, this is because Anel and I
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  Speaker 3: went to Tux, right? So that's the area we used
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  Speaker 3: to party on, the square.
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  Speaker 7: Hadfield.
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  Speaker 1: Hadfield Square.
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  Speaker 3: But it's one of the reasons so many of those
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  Speaker 3: places converted. It was just because the noise was becoming
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  Speaker 3: too much of an issue and the whole area sort
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  Speaker 3: of came together to say, look, we're going to close
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  Speaker 3: down these restaurants together with the city. We're not going
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  Speaker 3: to renew liquor licenses, et cetera, because this area cannot
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  Speaker 3: sustain the amount of students that are there and the
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  Speaker 3: parties are getting out of control.
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  Speaker 1: Jade, you're in Little Falls. Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: Morning, Anelena Club.
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  Speaker 11: How are you?
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  Speaker 1: We are great. Talk to us.
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  Speaker 2: So we currently live in Little Falls, Riddiput. And for
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  Speaker 2: about two years, from about 2022 to 2024, a residential
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  Speaker 2: property would sell tickets on howler for house parties. And
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  Speaker 2: they'd say that you'd have to Uber, so you couldn't
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  Speaker 2: park on the pavement. And you'd attend their parties, and
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  Speaker 2: it would carry on until like 6, 7 in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: So when you'd leave for work, there'd be people outside
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  Speaker 2: on the pavement. They'd sell alcohol illegally.
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  Speaker 1: And did you guys report them? What did the cops do?
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  Speaker 2: So we had community meetings in Little Falls and we
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: got Honeydew Police involved and SAPS. The only way we
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: managed to get rid of them is when they sold
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: the house.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. And now the party's... Guys, you can't sell
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: tickets on Howler for a house. I'm sorry.
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: That's wild.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: That's wild.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, they've got an Instagram page as well still running.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I don't think anything's happening on the page. It's literally
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: called Babylon Mansion. They even named the house and the
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: party's carried on for ridiculous hours of the morning.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go find Babylon Mansion.
• 18:09
  Speaker 9: Babylon Mansion.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Just for research purposes. Thank you so much, Jade. So, Megilia,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: you go to the same thing when you're driving to
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: work on Thursdays and Fridays here at 24 Central. Wow.
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: I never hear the music, but if you have the
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: pleasure of driving into Sandton, especially on Fredman, between 4.30
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: and let's say 5.30 on a Thursday or a Friday morning,
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: there's always like a traffic jam at one of the entrances,
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: the exits to 24 Central because you've got people leaving, right?
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: Driving out. And then you've got the people who would
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: have been in the clubs who are walking to their e-hailing, whatever.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: And then there's this thing where they're all in the road.
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: The Ubers, Balt people are all parked in the middle
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: of the street. Then there are buses because that's when
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: the buses start picking people up. So if you're trying
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: to get to work, the gym, wherever, you may have
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: to sit in that for a good 10, 15 minutes
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: if it's not moving.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: That's outside where Liv is, the club and CELAV, I think.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: And is Monarch still there or CELAV changed into... Monarch
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: used to be Monarch and now it's C'est la vie.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: But it's there. And this is the thing, guys. Okay, fine.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: So this is not a residential area, right? You've got
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: the JSE. You've got NetBank. You've got Investing.
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: There's a hotel. The Maslow's.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: The Maslow's, all of that. But still, there is no
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: way at five in the morning there is a traffic
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: jam with noise happening and the cops just don't think
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: that it's something that they should disperse.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think there should be... In this case,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: there should definitely be some kind of a management, traffic management,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: or the way that people get picked up.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: But like you say.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: the clubs close their doors and then they absolve themselves
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: because now you're in the parking lot.
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: There also needs to be stricter, I think, management of
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: pickup areas. At the mall, at the airport, we have
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: a pickup area for inhaling operators yeah guys if they're
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: all waiting on the same narrow stretch of road it's
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: a problem for everyone else who's not part of whatever's
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: going on it's also a risk to them by the
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: way because some of these cars just take off some
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: of you unfortunately are driving drunk and there are people
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: in the street so you can imagine what that looks
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: like On the.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Way, like we said, we'll speak to somebody from the cops. Mr.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Boise Zungu. He is the spokesperson for the Metro Police
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: down in KwaZulu-Natal. Let's have a chat with him because, bruh,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: this is... I know there's currently... This one that News24
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: reported on is in Durban. But everywhere, you heard they.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: There was something happening.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Babylon Mansion. They're springing up everywhere. I like a party, hey?
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: So we're not saying don't party, but surely your good
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: time shouldn't infringe on someone else's idea of a good time.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: That's it. Because if people think that good time is
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: rest and sleep for them in their residential areas, then
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: let's respect each other. So down in Durban, thanks so
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: much to News24 for highlighting what's going on. Berea residents
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: say weekend nightlife is causing excessive noise, traffic, overcrowding, and
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: litter in the residential area. Just this past weekend, 5,000
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: people in the streets. Uber's bolts coming to pick up
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: people noise and this is what it sounded like and
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the first to say guys me I
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: like a party hey but yo your good time can't
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: infringe on other people's good time so the question is
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: what are the officials doing we chat now to Colonel
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Boise Zungu who's the Metro Police spokesperson thank you so
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: much Mr. Zungu for joining us and sorry to keep
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: you waiting and we will be very quick with this
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: conversation with you thank you for your time sir good.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Morning Good morning to you and your listeners, News 24.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Good morning, Colonel.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: We want to know, so tell us, what is possible?
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, when you've got 5,000 people gathering on a
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: street like this, how do the police step in to
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: try and stabilize the situation?
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: One, I could tell you that that event, it was
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: unplanned event in terms of sports and recreations act. So
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: we as police, we are caught off guard because we
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: are not aware.
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: So when that situation happened, the police had to assess
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: whether to dispense, that crowd will be safe, or what
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: needs to be done. Remember, we're talking about people who
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: are under influence of alcohol. So if we dispense them,
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: anything can happen. Would happen injuries, Damage to the properties
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: and that. So police decided to control the crowd in
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: terms of controlling the traffic.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Right. And then, but then, okay, so this one caught
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: you off guard. But can you take actions going forward
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: to stop it from happening again?
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: Definitely, it won't happen again because we as police now, we.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: We have to ensure that we plan for such a thing.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: We're going to work together with SAPS, with other private
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: security companies to ensure that that thing does not happen again.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Because the residents in the area say they've been calling
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: the cops and they've been alerting you when it was
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: 500 people, then 1,000, then 2,000. Now, I mean, I
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: definitely agree with you that you have to be very
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: careful what you do to a crowd of 5,000 riled
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: up people. But it's been coming. Why has it been
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: left this long? No, no, no.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: No one knows that it's going to happen.
• 23:19
  Speaker 11: No one knows.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Remember, there's no organizer of these things. It was organized
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: via social media. Actually, according to the information we have received,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: students got their pay from NSFAS. They got money. As
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: a result, they planned these things. The number of universities,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: even if there's a new one that they plan for
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: the 20th, we're ensuring that it won't happen because we're
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: going to deploy according.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you're going to stop it at the beginning
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: and not try to control it from the back at
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: the end?
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: No, because we know it's an undone event. We won't
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: allow it to happen.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, thank you then. Colonel Boise Zungu, he's down in Durban.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: He's the Metro Police spokesperson. I don't think he's answering
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: my question because my cry is and maybe I'm the
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: one who doesn't get it. It has become 5,000 people
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: because it was allowed to be 4,000 people. It was
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: allowed to be 3,000. It was allowed to be 500.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: It was allowed to be 100. And the residents are
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: saying that they've been calling the police and nothing has happened.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: So we can't be shocked that it has gotten to 5,000.
• 24:23
  Speaker 9: No.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: If News 24 didn't pick up on this and make
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a big spiel of it and us also continuing, you know,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: on it, like, what would have happened? We would have
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: gotten to 10,000 and 20,000 because that's the nature of things.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I mean, it should be stopped way earlier
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: and the police should be there if they know that's
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: the strip where the places are happening. But look, I've
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: got to say, well done on not stepping in to
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: disperse a crowd like that. I think that's, very responsible
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: to say, guys, it's too late now. All we can
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: do is we can patrol and we can control what's happening,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: but we can't disperse this crowd.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: But the reason this conversation is happening is right here
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: in Johannesburg as well. Across the province, there are things
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: like this creeping up. Exactly. And I'm telling you right now,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: they're still at 500. Where we're heading is 1,000 and
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: then 3,000 and then a crowd of 5,000 that you
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: cannot disperse. There just suddenly has to be something that
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: can be done around people who go against the bylaws.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Right here in Sandton, by live and c'est la vie.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: We're dealing with it every Thursday and Friday.
• 25:23
  Speaker 11: Yeah, exactly.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? And the cops don't do
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: anything about it. It's going to get out of hand.