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🍊 Orange County Recap: Vicki’s travel size woo-hoo's, Heather's bob + TMZ Jax/Brittany Update and Mormon Wives cast · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Drama, darling Drama, darling Drama, darling.
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: It's Friday. Yes, we made it. So happy to be
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: here with Deanna Chang. Deanna, are you ready to recap
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: some Orange County with me?
• 0:29
  Speaker 3: I sure am, Amy. Amy Rose Phillips, I sure am.
• 0:34
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much. You know, if you see me
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: moving my head swiftly around, it just means that there
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: is a fly in my home.
• 0:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, nothing worse.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, and they're coming in. They just, they're like waiting outside.
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: You know, because here's the thing. I'm cooking up some
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: gorgeous meals over here. I'm not going to lie. You know,
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: I try to. I try to make at least, this
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: is going to sound like nothing to you guys, but
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: I try to make a good two meals a week
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: that are, like, decent. And then the others are, like,
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: hot dogs and mac and cheese, like, orange chicken from Costco. Oh, yeah. Like,
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: it's done.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: Already. You know what I mean? But so last night,
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: I made what I like to call chicken and rice slop.
• 1:21
  Speaker 2: I just named my things that are, they don't sound appealing.
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: But and last week, I had turkey noodle surprise. But
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  Speaker 2: it's good, you know. So it was in the Instapot.
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: And it really the aroma is delightful. And it's, you know,
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: it lingers. So if I have the door open, you know,
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  Speaker 2: The aroma. And I don't know. Do flies have noses?
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: But they must because they know where the food is.
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  Speaker 3: They seem to.
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  Speaker 2: They seem to know, whatever the case. And so this
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  Speaker 2: motherfucker got in here last night. And I haven't been
• 1:56
  Speaker 2: able to catch him.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's sometimes really hard.
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Deanna. It's sometimes hard.
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: And there's nothing... No, and especially when you're podcasting. Like,
• 2:05
  Speaker 3: I had a fly in here a few months ago.
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: And....
• 2:11
  Speaker 3: You know, it was making its way across the screen,
• 2:14
  Speaker 3: and there's just, you can't focus on anything else. You're like,
• 2:17
  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm in, you know, a pig pen.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. And I have flies about.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Welcome to Pig Pen Studios. Yeah, I sat down,
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: and before I connected with you, it was like, you know,
• 2:29
  Speaker 2: zing around me. I'm like, are you kidding me? Like,
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: it's in the office? What are you doing? You don't
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: come in here. Trying to get air time.
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was trying to get air time, right? He
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: wants to recap. It has a, you know what it is?
• 2:44
  Speaker 2: It's like they're drawn, the flies are drawn to Orange
• 2:48
  Speaker 2: County because it's such trash right now. It's feeding off
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  Speaker 2: of the bad.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, I mean, look, we're going to talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, good.
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  Speaker 2: But I really do, you know, I have dish to
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: serve up, but I'm not even going to do the
• 3:07
  Speaker 2: serving dish. Music, because it's dark. I just opened up
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: Instagram and it says, this is an exclusive. It's a
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: TMZ exclusive. And it says, Brittany Cartwright claims Jax Taylor
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: physically attacked her. And this is what it says in
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  Speaker 2: the headline. Said he's gonna gut me like a fish.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: This is so disturbing. This is what the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the article says. Brittany Cartwright is going after Jax Taylor's
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  Speaker 2: in their divorce case, filing a domestic violence temporary restraining order.
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  Speaker 2: in which she claims Jax threatened to gut her like
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  Speaker 2: a fucking fish and physically attacked her, according to new
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  Speaker 2: court documents. The restraining order obtained by TMZ was filed
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  Speaker 2: Thursday in L.A. Superior Court and granted by a judge
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  Speaker 2: who ordered Jax to stay 100 yards away from Brittany.
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  Speaker 2: Brittany also requested sole custody of their five-year-old son, Cruz,
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  Speaker 2: but the judge denied the request pending a court hearing.
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  Speaker 2: Brittany claims Jax threatened to kill her and said that
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  Speaker 2: while physically attacking her and throwing furniture at her, causing
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  Speaker 2: her to suffer injuries. Oh, this is when... See, we
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  Speaker 2: heard about this.
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  Speaker 3: The PR person was there, right? This is the... Is
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  Speaker 3: this the moment that the PR person witnessed?
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  Speaker 2: Oh. The PR person that he's with right now would be.
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  Speaker 3: She said she saw... Brittany said she saw... The PR
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  Speaker 3: person witnessed him throw something at her.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. I don't know if it.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was furniture.
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  Speaker 2: It also says Jax also allegedly broke three of her iPhones,
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  Speaker 2: one iPad, and destroyed other property at their home. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't surprise me one bit. This is so gross.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about the witness. I... Certainly hope that
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  Speaker 2: if the PR person that he is with right now
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  Speaker 2: did not witness this and then chose to be with him,
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  Speaker 2: that's even more disturbing. But even still, she probably knew
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  Speaker 2: about this anyway, right? Of course.
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  Speaker 3: We know about it. She knew about it. She was
• 5:00
  Speaker 3: on the ground floor, you know?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. So this is what's surprising is why is
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  Speaker 2: she getting a restraining order now and asking for sole
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  Speaker 2: custody now? I do feel like before she wasn't going
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  Speaker 2: to ask for sole custody because... She wanted Jax to
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  Speaker 2: have 50-50 custody, I believe. But now, her bringing this
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  Speaker 2: up in court, something else must have happened.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, well, he's with the PR person, so that
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  Speaker 3: did happen.
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  Speaker 2: Oh. Oh?
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: That could be the catalyst. Or it's just, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: who knows what his time with their son has been
• 5:39
  Speaker 3: when he does have their son. That could be going wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Very disturbing news for a Friday. Horrible. But also,
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives is coming back on
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: September 10th on Hulu. So that is announced. My God.
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: It's right down, right around the corner. It is. It
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: looks like pretty much all the same people, which I'm
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: kind of shocked about.
• 6:04
  Speaker 3: Couldn't know. They all look the same. So you can't
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  Speaker 3: know at a quick glance.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: It's not possible.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look at this. This is Bravo by Gay's.
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: Look at all of them. I mean, they all look
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: the same. And I see Whitney. It's truly hard. And
• 6:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't know she... I thought she wasn't coming back.
• 6:22
  Speaker 2: I just thought, like, everybody on here I thought wasn't
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: coming back, which is so funny to me. That's funny.
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: Except maybe Jessie. Like, I knew Jessie was going to
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: come back. All right. Well, let's get into some Orange County.
• 6:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: Wow. You know... We're going to– I don't know how
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: to do this. Like, let's see. I was thinking about, like,
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: should we play a game where we do this thing
• 6:53
  Speaker 2: where it's like, you know what I liked about this episode?
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: You know, what I loved about this episode was, you know,
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like when you're in marriage counseling and
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: you have to, like, dig deep. Yeah. You have to
• 7:10
  Speaker 2: appreciate the other person and, like, the things that they do.
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: And by the way, I have not been in marriage counseling.
• 7:15
  Speaker 2: Not that I don't need it, but, like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, same. It'd be great.
• 7:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But haven't done it, but it's like you want to
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  Speaker 2: look at the pros as opposed to the cons. So
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, we're having some marital difficulties with
• 7:32
  Speaker 2: Orange County right now, Deanna. I think you would feel
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: the same, yes?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, for sure. You know, Victoria... Victoria. Victoria is difficult.
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: I love that Emily calls her Victoria. There you go.
• 7:47
  Speaker 3: Well, okay. There you have it. Yes. That's lovely.
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  Speaker 2: Good.
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  Speaker 3: Put one up on the pro list.
• 7:54
  Speaker 2: I'm putting it up there. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, it's just hard because as we've said, you know, listen,
• 8:00
  Speaker 3: they are a mere decade above us, the older gals,
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  Speaker 3: the older set, the Shannon and the Victorias.
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  Speaker 2: The senior class, as it were.
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  Speaker 3: The senior class. And, like, you don't want to say
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  Speaker 3: to yourself, like, I don't want to say something and
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  Speaker 3: then be in that boat 10 years from now and
• 8:18
  Speaker 3: be like, well, remember what you said. Remember what you said.
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  Speaker 2: You know? Well, we will be in that boat, but
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: it's okay. Right. Someone will say about us.
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: I want to have more just core strength and just overall, like,
• 8:37
  Speaker 3: you know. And I feel I'm watching people wobble around.
• 8:45
  Speaker 3: And I don't like it.
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: Well, when you see more than one knee brace, it's concerning.
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: Because I'm like, wait, she has a knee brace? Oh,
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: I thought she had the knee brace. Oh, we have
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: multiple knee braces. What happened to Emily's knee? I didn't
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: see that last week. I don't know.
• 9:05
  Speaker 3: I don't really know what happened to her knee.
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: You don't know either? No. Oh, my God. I just
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: assumed it happened when I was looking the other way.
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  Speaker 2: And I thought, oh, Deanna might know.
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't got it. I don't have it. I'm
• 9:19
  Speaker 3: assuming it was a workout. She overworked out on it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, 100%. Yeah, she probably overworked it. But for
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  Speaker 2: her to have like real open wounds at this IV
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: place with her knee perched up like that, to not
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: acknowledge even just like, How's the healing process going over there?
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: I see you're all, you know, you're not even scabbed
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: up yet. Is everything okay? And then to have another
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  Speaker 2: knee break, it's just like, it's just hard. And for
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: Emily to have a wound is like outside of the
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: scope of who should always, which is like... Vicki and Shannon,
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: you know? I mean, they're the ones falling about. I mean,
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: there was a moment in this episode where Shannon accidentally
• 10:10
  Speaker 2: hit Vicki. Yeah. Where that was actually a believable misunderstanding. Right.
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: Where most of the time. I love when they have
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: physical misunderstandings.
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: So bleak. How are you doing with Vicki on the show?
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: I just, in general, how are you doing with her?
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. If she wasn't there, this would
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: be probably worse. So I have to say, I am
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: enjoying Vicki being around. I do love Vicki. I love Victoria.
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: I do enjoy her talking about Kodo. Look, hand to God,
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. I will never take away her zest for life insurance.
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: I won't.
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: I can't. You know, we got to tip the hat
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: to that.
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: So that being said.
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: With that said, you know, I'm finding her to be
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: just pent up. Everything feels very tight.
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: Very tight.
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: Nothing is loosened. Everything's really tight. I'm finding her, every
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: interaction just to be, like there's, there's, I enjoy when
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: Vicky's like has her moments and then, and then we
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: settle in back into.
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: Woohoo. Yeah.
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: And I just, the woohoo is just missing and I'm.
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: She left it in Puerto Vallarta. It's gone. Like she
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: leaves it down there now. At her other house. She
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: leaves it down there. Mm-hmm.
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: Shit, she leaves it down there.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: She leaves her woohoo down there.
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: Could we have sent a PA to pick it up
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  Speaker 3: or something?
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, or like a travel size woohoo. Anything.
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: Right, just a little dose of it, you know, just
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: a shot of it because.
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: God, she really. And Emily called out. Mm-hmm. Emily's like,
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: you know, Vicki, you're not, you're not fun. You're not fun.
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: And I mean, she has a point. So it's like,
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: She needs to loosen up. I think Emily's point is
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: like what you bring to the show, not just Kodo,
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: but you bring the woohoo. So if you're coming back
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: to the show for the 20th, you better bring 20
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: woohoos at the very least. And the woohoo quota, the
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: woohoo count is low. Low. Low.
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: And like, you know, it has me thinking things I
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: shouldn't be thinking during the episode.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: Are you having intrusive thoughts, Deanna? What are your intrusive
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: thoughts about Orange County? Let's go.
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: Where I'm going is like, hey, listen, Andy, you know,
• 12:56
  Speaker 3: we can't just pluck people back out and in necessarily. Like,
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: I understand that intellectually this felt good, but she did
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: warn you. She's in a different place. She doesn't know
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  Speaker 3: if this is right for her. Yes, in a big,
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: giant group of people. At BravoCon, you hand her the peach.
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: She said yes.
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: Peach. She's going to Atlanta.
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: What does she have, an orange?
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: Orange.
• 13:21
  Speaker 3: She said yes.
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: Put her on Atlanta, actually. That would be pretty fun.
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: She needs Atlanta. She does. She won't be able to
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: pull the same stuff. I just think she's mentally not there.
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: Her leaving... To go to her birthday, I mean, when,
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: see this, I never have her name.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: Carmella?
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: No.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, Gina. Not Emily, but Gina. Gina.
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: When Gina, this is blaming, I've been watching her for
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  Speaker 3: half my life and I don't have it. When Gina said.
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: You don't want it, so. Yeah, she just said like-
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: We all know that.
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: I don't even know where I am. We drove so far,
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know where I am at this house, but-
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: But you're going, taking off to go to La Quinta. Like,
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: we've only been here a few hours. I mean, it's just.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Bold. Yeah, she left real early.
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: We're watching her on Ultimate Girls Trip with the laptop
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: in the sprinter van. And we're watching her leave filming
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: to go to La Quinta. And it's like, on one hand,
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: I'm going, you have earned the right in your life.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: You've worked your ass off. You should be where you
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: want to be. I actually do think that. That said,
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: this is our program. And you've signed on to it,
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: you know? And so it's giving, I don't want to
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: be here. And that's not good for us.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: Do you think that when Andy handed her that orange,
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: she was like, oh my God, I didn't want to
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: come back. I'm in retirement and I'm enjoying my life.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: Do you think deep down she actually didn't want to
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: come back?
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: Yes. I don't think it was deep down. I think
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: she had that conversation with production. I've heard her say it.
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know, guys. I'm not sure.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: Because the way that she presents herself a lot of
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: the time on Watch What Happens Live or wherever, she
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: does make asides and jokes to, well, that's before you
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: fired me. That's a long time ago. So I think
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: maybe she was upset when she was let go back then. Yes.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: But now she doesn't want it like she used to.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: And so it's like too little, too late. Too late. Oh,
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: my God. They want me back. Now I have to
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: do this. So that's why it's so... premeditated and put
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: on and why she's just leaning into the Victoria so hard.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Is that what we're dealing with?
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because she bought a house. She's bought two houses.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: She has a life that she's curated when this went away.
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: I also think it's very difficult for her to be
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: around younger women. I don't think Victoria does well with that,
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: knowing that she's going to be judged against them. Just,
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: you know, because that's what the show, you know what
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: I mean? That's just part of it. Like, I think
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: it's just it doesn't it doesn't bring out the best
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: in her.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: When this season is over, if she doesn't come back
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: next year, then I will truly believe that she didn't
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: ever want to come back this year.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: Do you think she wants to be there? Genuinely?
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: For the money?
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: For the money.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, but put the money to the side.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, put the money to the side because she likes
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: to work. So of course, this is great for her business.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: This is great for her. That aspect of it, I
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: do really think that she likes that. But deep down,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: what she really wants is to be married or have
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: her partner and be getting her love tank filled. And
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: we hear about how she's working all the time still.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: she does a podcast sometimes still. She seems to want
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: to have a forward-facing persona. Maybe when she was served
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: up that orange and she was like, oh my God,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: and she's like holding it so dearly, she was like,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: oh shit, oh shit.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: I think you said it. I think it's a little
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: too late. It is hitting her ego. That feels really good.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: To be wanted feels really good. To be, you know,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: giving her this moment on a huge platform stage with
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: everyone watching who's part of the universe feels really good.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: But she has set up her life so she can
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: sit at the beach. She can go to La Quinta.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: She can do her work remotely. She's not here. She's
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: not in this game.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Well, what's disappointing is Why don't we have them all
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: go to La Quinta to her place? Like, let's live
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: the retired life. Let's go where Vicky's going. Let's go
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: down to Puerto Vallarta again.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Again?
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Let's keep going. I don't know. I want to keep
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: going there. I want to see her doing her.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Because we don't have much going on to begin with.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: And so at least we could just be... checking out Vicky's,
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: you know, where Vicky's at.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: That pool party with no pool. I mean, it was
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: a fashion show without any fashions. I didn't see a pool.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know it was a pool party until
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: I remembered that they were at a pool party because
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: of the way they were kind of dressed like a
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: pool party. And that upsets me. That bothers me. You know,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: don't tell me Don't piss on my leg and tell
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: me it's raining. Like, get in the pool. Somebody put
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: their fucking feet.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Wait, are you talking about Carmela's house?
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Yes. There was a pool.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: There definitely was a pool.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I believe it. Okay. I believe in it like I
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: believe in the Easter Bunny. But, like, someone put their
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: fucking feet in the pool. Someone get on a goddamn raft. okay?
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Put the water toys in and let's go. I mean,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: to have these stupid conversations on these ridiculous... Wait a minute. Sorry.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: You know what I love? I love that there was
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: a pool there. And I would have loved if they
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: got their asses off of the lounges and gone for
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: a swim.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: For a dip.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: And talked. We're not Beverly Hills, you know? You're Orange County.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: You can get your extensions wet.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I think that would have added... Some jovialness to the afternoon.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: A little fun.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Right? It was a weird get-together. Wasn't it weird?
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: What was making me laugh? And I don't know how
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: you felt.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Did you love this part?
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: What?
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Did you love this part that you're going to talk about?
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: I loved this part.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Okay. This part I loved.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Gosh, did I love meeting Carmela's mate.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Meeting?
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Who talked.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: You've never seen him before? We've never seen him before.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, we have.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay. I might have missed that episode.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: That's so funny. I was like, well, they're meeting them.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, wait, did you not ever see?
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: But I do mean they're meeting him. I do mean
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: that because they're meeting him for the first time. And.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: It's just making me laugh. And I may have missed
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: meeting him before. I think he was like in the
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: kitchen walking around. But I don't feel like I really
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: dropped into him.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: But I really was centered to the fact that he's
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: a cheater. He has hurt this Carmella. Meanwhile, he seems
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: like such an easygoing, goofy guy. And it was hard
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: to square. I'm like, yeah, we're mad at you, Jolly
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Green Giant. You know, like he just was– Like so easy, breezy, goofy,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: you know. And I just was like, this is making
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: me laugh. Like this is the big, this is who
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: we're upset about. It's hard to, like Gina's ex-husband, no problem,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: you know. This guy is just not, you know, Shannon's ex-husband,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: no problem. This guy's not eliciting that for me.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: No.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: And it was just funny.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Walking in. in the most non-threatening way you know he
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: probably wanted to get in the pool if anything and
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: he's just coming over and he's like hey you know
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I'm just a guy who's just couldn't keep his dick
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: in his pants and I yeah I'm trying to work
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: my way back hello hello ladies hello and they couldn't
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: deny it's Captain Sandy again she shows up somebody say
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: water toys Yeah.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: They needed water toys, by the way, yeah.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Everything. I mean, water toys make everything better. And I'm
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: sure Danny would have been happy to blow them up
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: and get them out of that laz and just get
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: them going, you know? Mm-hmm. But he greeted them and...
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: And Gina's just like, oh, when did you cheat on
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: your girl? I mean, she didn't say that. But, like,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: you know that they're all trying that and sort of
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: deflecting away from the awkwardness. And Emily's just like, oh,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: you know, we won't bite. And I don't know who
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: the hell else was there. But it was very awkward.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: But you're right. It was so interesting to see as
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: much as we've talked about it. And she doesn't know
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: if she can move on from this. She's really mad
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: at him. I mean, I think.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: She has an interesting way, Carmela, that is, of expressing
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: her emotions without any of the emotions. Do you know
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, you know what I love? Yeah.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: What I love about housewives sometimes is that they, I
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: love when housewives express emotions, but you can't see it
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: on their face and also hear it in their voice
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: or in their body language. And so that's sort of like,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I'm so angry and I don't know, I'm like really
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: mad about And I'm not sure, like, what I'm going
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: to do.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Right. Right. You know, and she just seems like so
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: much more dynamic than him.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Are you sure?
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Because you were really all about him a second ago.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: What's the word? I mean, maybe more like. If anyone's
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: going to cheat, it's going to be her. That's what I,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: the vibe, just if I'm looking at them, you know.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: You're looking at them.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: If I'm looking at them.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Pool outfit, yeah. Yeah.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: It just, I don't know. I mean, I also, what
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: I didn't, I can't put in, I can't put in
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: the love column. I got to put in the not
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: love column on this one.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: In this counseling.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Are we there in this session of counseling?
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: We are. We've had enough pros. Let's go over the cons.
• 24:33
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  Speaker 3: It was really tough when I believe it was Carmela...
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  Speaker 3: was referring to Vicki as Betty White.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, and she's passed, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And she's passed. And that's the other thing. And that's RIP, Betty.
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• 33:58
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• 34:00
  Speaker 2: recall Betty White being like that. If she's referring to
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: a character she played on like, The Golden Girls or
• 34:08
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• 34:11
  Speaker 2: her gorgeous, gorgeous shows, you know, from a repertoire. But
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: you know, What are you speaking of? Because it's not
• 34:18
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• 34:22
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• 34:26
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• 34:28
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• 34:32
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• 34:38
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• 34:42
  Speaker 2: would instead of burying it and making it okay. Yes.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Part of me thinks that Heather was trying to, like,
• 34:48
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• 34:53
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm recalling that she did play a small
• 35:00
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• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Heather did.
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• 35:05
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• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of think she did. Can we look
• 35:10
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• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Can you look it up? Yeah. So there's
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: the woman who starred in that show who looks like Heather.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Yes, she did.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Wendy Malick, is that her name? Yep. Okay. So are
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: you getting those two confused?
• 35:28
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• 35:32
  Speaker 3: in Cleveland in 2013.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. That's amazing.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: On top of it all. This is also like, you know,
• 35:44
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• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Now, see, this is a perfect example of like, oh,
• 35:53
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• 35:55
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• 35:59
  Speaker 2: that would have been like, let's drop some stuff. Oh,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: my God. You're right.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Hot in Cleveland.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: When I did one of my first videos that I
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: did of Heather Dubrow, I just remembered. I talked about,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: I listed all the shows and Hot in Cleveland was
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: one of them. That's so funny.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: See, you forgot, Amy. You forgot your own work, you know?
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: I do and I forget my own work. It's like
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: at this point.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I wanted to be on Hot in Cleveland so bad
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: and I auditioned. Did you ever audition for that show? No.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Because that was like one of the ones in the
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: rotation around that time. And I think I auditioned for
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: like two parts. And I was like, I didn't get
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: either one of them. I was like, damn it. I
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: want to be on Hot in Cleveland.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: I want to be able to defend Betty White from
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: a place of true knowledge in 2026, you know?
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: But you know who got the role? Heather Dubrow.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she sounds like she did.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: It sounds like she did. So, yeah, that was a slam. Also,
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: I did not realize that Carmela worked for the Oppenheim Group.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: That's a flex.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: That's pretty cool.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: That's pretty cool. That is cool. And I loved, this
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: is a genuine, I loved being at the Oppenheim Group
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: in Orange County, clearly. Or, I guess, Orange County, wherever
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: that was. I don't know.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Because, I mean, I know they opened the Orange County...
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: branch like a couple years ago. So I'm only guessing
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: that's what it is. But to see her help Heather
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: out with getting Max an apartment, and she certainly knows
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: the area, was wonderful to watch.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Yes. Yes, absolutely. I mean, I, you know, yeah, that
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: gives her credentials and all of that. It's nice to
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: see her planted so much. Now, did you guys already
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: cover Her living in Orange County and then her working
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: and her living and all of that where the kids are.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Did you guys cover that?
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I don't know. We should
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: talk about it. I was trying to get a.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Handle on it. I was like having a hard time
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: understanding it exactly.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: You know, because they didn't really explain it. It sounded
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: like she moved down to San Paolo. I don't know
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: where she is.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's down there somewhere.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. New Mexico. Like, I don't know where she is,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: but she is, as we saw on the map.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, far. Two hours.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Two hours and 15 minutes, was it?
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Past Orange County, right? Like, it was a.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Past Newport, yeah. That's what it was.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Past Newport, yeah.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: That is so far. Far. So, like, so I'm guessing
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: that she wanted to live down there with her partner
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: and work down there. And then her kids stayed up
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: with their dad.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, her.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Okay. Okay. That makes more sense to me because I
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: was thinking the boyfriend, which wasn't making sense to me.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. The dad.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Got it. Yeah. So, but I mean, Vicky was like,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: I was at mom's Chez Big U, which, I mean,
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: she was, but. She was. I think it's fine to
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: have an opinion about it. It is weird. Like, I
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: also don't, she has not given much of an explanation,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: which is irritating, She just was so vague about it.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: And she's like, she just basically says, I'm there for
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: my kids. I'm a good mom. And like, and I
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: understand that. We've seen her kids. It looks like they've
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: got a great relationship until she, you know, said BJ
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: in front of her daughter. And I was like, yikes.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: But I would like more information. And I think that's
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: the angle that Vicky was having as a. A true
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: real housewife should have to try to get information out
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: of somebody. We didn't get a lot.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: And the way Vicki receives, you know, she sits in
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: that car and she's explaining and Vicki's like this. Just
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: stone-faced listening, receiving, not reacting. It's like, wow, what a technique. Computing.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Computing all this, running it through the Codo AI system
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: and delivering it when the time is right. Totally.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: You are so right. It's going in. I have to
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: remember this. I have to remember this because my protein
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: levels are at 2,800. Look it up. Yeah. What was that?
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that is. Spike protein. I'm not sure.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Spike protein? Google it. Yeah, I know.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: She just screams like Google. Everything is so angry It's like,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: can you just tell me about spike protein, this new
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: term I've never heard of it?
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'd all love to hear. Yeah, tell us.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: What is it?
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: It's probably because she can't explain it. I'm guessing she
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: probably doesn't explain it. She probably doesn't even know what
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: it means. She just knows it's bad.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: You know, I just would love her to just– there's
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: not a soft landing. Even spike protein is– Shot out
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: of a cannon, you know?
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Top of the morning to you. The fact that we
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: got to see, I loved seeing Shannon's green sequin shirt
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: that she has worn year after year. And then this
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: shamrock onesie or shamrock outfit.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Wow. Wow.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Wow. So, was it St. Patrick's Day even?
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Not in my book.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: That was so random.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Nobody said it was. But, like, why would she wear that?
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, it had to have been. It had to
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: have been.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Great. It doesn't move the needle either way. Deanna does
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: We Don't Care. It just was so random. And Jen...
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: you know, showing up at this dog training place and
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Shannon's like top of the morning and she whips it
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: off like Hulk Hogan, you know, just, you know, and
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Jen's just like, hi. And I'm like, bitch, have a reaction.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: At least like comment.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Look a lot. You guys, this is bad.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: This is bad.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: No. God bless America.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: The other thing that I did think was kind of interesting,
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: you know, I, I, There was a full court press
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: on Heather, her wanting to be the center of the pictures,
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: her wanting to be in the room, putting peeing in
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: the room, peeing on her spots. They all get so frustrated.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Vicky's frustrated because Heather exudes leadership power, right? That is
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: her vibe. That is her... whole thing is like, I
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: run things, I do things, I'm rich. And she is
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: going to be in the center of the photo and
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: she is going to get her solo shots because of
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: the outfit. And she doesn't really care for you guys.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: So she does need solo shots in addition to group shots.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: And it's just.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: I don't see anything wrong with it at all.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: I don't either, and I thought it was great that
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: we got the package of Emily.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. That was so funny.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: That's why it burns her buns so bad, you know,
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: because she does want that center shot. So it's like, yeah.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: She wants the center orange.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: She wants a center orange.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: But you know, you guys can all share the center spot.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: It's okay. But like the one that she was referring
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: to when they were walking in Vegas, I'm sure that
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: the production was like, we're going to do a shot
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: of you guys walking through the casino and they know
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: it's going to be slow motion. So Heather wanted to
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: get a peak spot and she should. Yeah. Work it.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Work it. Your hair is cute as hell, Heather.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: This hair is giving you life. It is so great.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: I know. It's the best thing about Orange County right
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: now is her hair.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: It is. Genuinely.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Genuinely. It's so cute on her. Troy is great. Love
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: the dog. Shannon's dog. I did think it was funny
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: when Vicki was like, all it does is sniff, sniff, lick, lick, sniff, lick, sniff, lick.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, that was cute.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's so, like, it's funny. She's funny. She is.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: That's great.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: She is. Now, Let's see. That is our recap. No,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I'm just joking. Hold on. Wait, also Troy, getting back
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: to Troy, because that's a hot topic here. $ 12, 000 in
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: shoes that Shannon says that he has chewed up. I
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: would say when Vicki's sitting her down to talk about finances,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: I would suggest putting your shoes in the closet when
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: you take them off. Put them in a box. Put
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: them up high. I don't know. Put them in a bag.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: You could have learned after two pairs. What are you doing?
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, that conversation, Shannon's ignorance about her own
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: finances is dark.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Is it because David handled all the finances? It's
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: something that she just got used to and then not
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: having to do anything about? Is that why? And she
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: was raised wealthy. She was wealthy as a child.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: I'm sure that's how, that's for so many, that's for
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: friends of mine. You know, there's so many people in
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: that boat. But she's been divorced for a very long time.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Right. And she's pushed, you're right, she's pushed it aside.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: And then to find out, you know, I didn't realize
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: that Real for Real took her down to the studs.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: That she put so much money into Real. That's where
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: you go, Bethany Frankel, love her or leave her.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Or list it. Love it or list it.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Love it or list it. She does, many of her
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: deals are licensing deals. And there is, that's a smart
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: way to go when you don't know how something's going to,
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: she's licensing her brand, she's licensing her name, and she's
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: not putting her own capital in. And, you know, yeah.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Well, and that was interesting to hear Shannon say that. Like,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: she should have done this. Or that did she say
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: she said, I think she meant she shouldn't have like
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: used her savings to throw into a company. Instead, she
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: should have invested a little bit of capital in something
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: that is already successful. Yeah.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Or just like in stocks or wherever she should have
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: put it. You know, that wasn't it's so risky. And
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: it sounds like she didn't have anyone helping her with
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: that decision.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: That's weird. You'd think somebody, you know, who's been wealthy
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: for a long time would have the right connections to
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: get a good money manager or money, you know, finance advisor.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: She lives in Orange County. She was mismanaged. That's true.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: But, you know, these, I can only imagine what comes
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: at these ladies for opportunities. And, like, you want to
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: be the next skinny girl. You want to have the next,
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: you know, Ramona Rosa, Pino Grigio. And I don't know
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: if that's in any numbers. But, you know, and you
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: want the next three-wick candle. And it's like, what? what
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: do you want to do to what, what, what makes sense.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: And then you, you're watching shark tank and they are
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: saying to you, you gotta have skin in the game.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: If you, you know, so it's like, if you don't
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: have someone really explaining things and yeah, you, you gotta
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: have that money to play with, in my opinion, you know,
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: to make tip, to have risk things like that. Like you, right.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a million reasons where, but, I.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Mean, not everyone is Shamia. Shamia can bounce from thing
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: to thing and not lose anything because Gerald is so
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: freaking rich. It's okay. She can do a tequila. She
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: can drop a record and none of it doesn't have,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: she doesn't have to make anything back and she's fine.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: That was Erica too. Erica Jane was able to do
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: that until she couldn't. But, you know, yeah, that's a
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: different story. That's not Shannon's story, it sounds like. And
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: I think we know that, you know?
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, boy.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: God, it's so dark.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: Well, finding out that she spends $ 3, 000 on Ubers, to me,
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: is actually fine. Because we don't want her driving and drinking.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: So I was like, let's leave that number what it is.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Let's not scale back on that one. That's a gorgeous number.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Heather... You know, this whole thing with Emily and Heather
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: going back and forth, and they have a hard time
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: with Heather because... being anti carmella and now she's trying
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: to be her savior and kind of buddy up to
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: her it will be interesting to find out i'm sorry
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: it will be interesting to see heather have to tell
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: carmella yes i did say you were trashy and you
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: don't belong because it looks like that's what's going to
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: have to happen yeah.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: We got a little tease and carmel was like wow.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: You know i mean it's just an earful you're like
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: oh shit okay hold on let me get myself together
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: here say that one more time i come to trash
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: you for the group damn.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Emily just flat out said it in the confessional i
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: was like wow you are going for it you know
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: yeah well it'll do something.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: Thoughts on Emily and Shane's dinner?
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: I think that they will absolutely be fine. I think
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: that they are going through something right now where it's like, yeah,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: he's carrying the burden of the family. And that's really
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: hard to do. I think she's focusing on being a
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: real housewife and working out and doing all those things. And, um,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: What other things, though?
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's where I sort of was like, what
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: other things? We're working out. We're shooting.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: What else?
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Because he was like, she's just out there. I'm like, where?
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: What are the other things?
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Right. Well, I think that she does do work for
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: the Innocence Project. So that'll keep her out. No, I
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: don't know. But I do think that like the, at
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, he's obviously really holding all
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: the cards when it comes to family stuff right now.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure that she, when, when he said you
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: come home and then you go in your room and
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: you get on Instagram and I have to put the
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: kids to bed. I was like, that's, that's tough one.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: That's a tough one.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: You know, that was, and I believed him. I got
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: to tell you, like, I believed everything he said. I mean,
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: not that you wouldn't because she's sitting right there and she's.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Not arguing it.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Not arguing really, you know. But it gave me, I,
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: you know, they made this decision. They looked at whose
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: numbers or who was bringing in more money. And I
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: feel like Emily is running with it too hard. Yeah.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm feeling like.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: That's a good judgment call on that. I think that's
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: fair to say. And that's tough. That's... really hard for
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: both of them because it's going to end up backfiring.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: I think that they're going to be fine. I think
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: that the, the way that the show is kind of
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: making it seem like the thread throughout this season is
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: like that they're not doing great. You know, I know
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: that they've got a lot of pressure with, you know,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: with Luke and all that stuff. So that is so challenging. Um,
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: and they're both going to deal with it in their
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: own ways. And maybe, um, it's good that Emily is
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: going out and doing the things she needs to do
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: because that helps her cope with the situation in order
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: to be able to like put back in what she
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: needs to. And so if that's the case, like, you know,
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: no judgment there, but obviously Shane isn't exactly that happy
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: at this point, but I think that they're going to
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: be fine. I think the thread of the story is
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: like just exaggerated for the sake of the show. And
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: I really like Shane. I've always liked Shane. I liked
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: him at the beginning.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: You can't help but like that little asshole. Like, you can't,
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: you know? He just, every time I want to not,
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: really not like him, he makes me laugh or he
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: says something where I'm like, he's a good guy, you know?
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: He's kind of like one of us. That's how I feel. Like,
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: I feel like he has a great sense of humor,
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: a very dry and kind of dark sense of humor.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: And I think he's really smart. And I think like,
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: I think he's good vibes. And I think that when
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: he first came on, he was portrayed in a way
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: where it did look very, it didn't look great for him.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: But I felt like he was misunderstood, you know? So.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: Well, it was that really wild housewife who was on
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: for like one season. She was married to the like.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Nicole, Nicoletta.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think so. Dark hair, long dark hair.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she was married to the billboard lawyer.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: The billboard guy, yeah. She said the two of them
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: have insane chemistry, and I think all of us were
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: surprised at the time, you know, because we were like, huh?
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: Shane and Emily, like those are the two. And like, yeah,
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: that they have.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: I think that too. Yeah, I did love hearing what
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: she was saying. She's like, I got you a steak.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: I did other things. Yeah. He's like, well, I mean,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: I think. Okay.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: He's like, yeah.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's keeping them. The fact that
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: she's getting busy in that bedroom is keeping them.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Upright.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Upright. Locked in. You know, they're in coach, but, you know,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: they're still, they're flying. They're flying right. They're up. Yeah. Yeah.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not worried about them. I've never been not worried
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: about a couple more in the housewives. I know.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: That's interesting.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: I think also when they talked today or on this episode,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: they said, we both have a lot of the same values.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: We want to stay together. And I know that Shane
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: has a Mormon foundation. And I think that does serve
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: them in this situation because I think he's very, like,
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: even though they may not talk about it or be
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: outspoken about it or he isn't outspoken about it, I
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: do think that that's a meaningful foundation for him. And
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: I think that he's doing the work.
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: Well, they got together sort of in a more, like.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: Just clinical way. You know, they didn't, it wasn't a
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: love story for the ages. You know, I think he
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: sent her an email.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: It was like married at first sight, you know?
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty much.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: And so in some ways you're like, yeah, you've never,
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: you've never had that thing of like you're in love
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: and this person completing you. That's never been what this is.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: So you're fine. You know, you're just going to keep
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: marching along.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: And you know what? That's sometimes all people need.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: And when she says, we keep seeing the preview of
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: her when someone's like, was he always the one? Is
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: he the one? She's like, I still don't know. We
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: can all say that. And I also really believe that
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: there are several, there could be several ones that you
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: can be compatible with. You just kind of look around.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: It didn't dawn on me until the ripe age of,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: but when I You see the types of people out there,
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: and you're like, that's the same type of person as Brett.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: They kind of look the same. They have similar characteristics,
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: give or take this or that. And you can kind
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: of see that you could make something like that work, right? Now, however,
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: when it comes to me and Brett, all that aside,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: he is the funniest person I've ever met. And I
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: cannot imagine... Being with someone who's not as funny. Like,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: I just don't.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Well, you're not going to.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: I couldn't do it.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: You're not going to find that in an alternate brat.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: And that's, and there's, and there my point lands, which
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: is that, like, you could be compatible with tons of
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: other people, but there's probably going to be that one thing,
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: maybe more than one thing, that makes you like, well, no,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: but this is why this is my person, you know?
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: Right. Like, there's always going to be that. I'm not
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: going to find a Chinese merchant marine around every corner.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: I'm just not. And that's also the truth, you know.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: And you're lucky you even did. I mean, quite honestly,
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: good on you.
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: I got the one.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: You got the one. The one and only. The one
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: and only. How great is that? Well, I mean... There's
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: really not much else I think we need to cover.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: I think we've done it and we can discuss more,
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: you know, next week. And in the meantime, everyone's homework
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: is to look up spike protein and see, see where
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: we're at. Yeah. Vicki's at 2,800. It's apparently not good. Snarl. Yeah.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: I was like, you're getting an IV. Are they putting
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: poison in there? Like what is happening? She was upset.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: She was upset.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Deanna Chang, thank you so much for being here. Everybody
• 58:39
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• 58:42
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• 58:45
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• 58:55
  Speaker 3: Goodbye.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Bye.