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If You Don't Stop Eating That Peach Like That... · Armstrong & Getty One More Thing

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  Speaker 1: If you don't stop eating that peach like that, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to kill you. One more thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm strong and getty.
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  Speaker 3: One more thing, a bunch of peach eaters around there
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  Speaker 3: before we get to miss Aphonia and the latest on that.
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  Speaker 1: I am on such a Springsteen kick right now, really,
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  Speaker 1: like more than I've ever been in my life. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: partially because he released those seven albums a week or
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  Speaker 1: so ago. He released seven albums a couple of weeks ago,
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't realize this until I started reading about it,
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  Speaker 1: that these weren't just like you know, because every artist
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  Speaker 1: has like lots of tracks that they recorded or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: These are albums that, like the whole album was done, mixed,
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  Speaker 1: was an album, had cover art, a name, everything. They
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  Speaker 1: just didn't get released for whatever reason. Really yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: the one I'm really into right now came out and
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  Speaker 1: it would have come out in eighty two, so like
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  Speaker 1: right between the River and Born in the USA, he
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  Speaker 1: had a whole other album ready to go and it
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  Speaker 1: just never got released. This is very very odd, and
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  Speaker 1: there's things he would have bitched about that or something,
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  Speaker 1: and there's some pretty good music on there. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: really explain it. I watched an interview and you just
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  Speaker 1: said all kinds of different reasons, legal or commercial or
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  Speaker 1: artistic or whatever. Okay, AnyWho. So I'm on a Springsteen kick.
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  Speaker 1: More on that later, I try. I'm trying to get
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  Speaker 1: past how much how annoying I find him and enjoy
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  Speaker 1: his music again. He is one an unbelievable songwriter, two
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  Speaker 1: an unbelievable singer. It's just unbelievable, absolutely true. Just love
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  Speaker 1: the art, not the artist. Yeah, okay, back to miss Aphonia.
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  Speaker 1: Do you I don't remember do you have this? Katie? You?
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  Speaker 1: We can't all have it, can we? I mean, cause
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  Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's a smaller percentage of people that
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  Speaker 1: have it.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have it? Michael? I think a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: but not not extreme.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's one of those things like oc everybody's
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  Speaker 1: got a little bit of it. It's just whether it
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  Speaker 1: crosses over into like really annoys your life, because everybody's
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  Speaker 1: got a little OCD. I do everything on the microwave
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  Speaker 1: on an even number, just have to. But it's not
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  Speaker 1: a big deal. I don't stay up at night wondering
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  Speaker 1: if I left the microwave on an odd number like
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  Speaker 1: some people do.
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  Speaker 3: I would agree, and everybody's sensitive to annoying noises, But
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  Speaker 3: to some people like my daughter, my youngest is just
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  Speaker 3: she works very hard on it, otherwise it would screw
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  Speaker 3: up her life.
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  Speaker 1: New York Times with an article about the whole thing
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  Speaker 1: and examining the science behind our hatred of wet stuff,
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  Speaker 1: specifically from chew noises to the word moist but anyway,
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  Speaker 1: the moist mind virus Why we hate wet sounds was
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  Speaker 1: the name of the article.
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  Speaker 2: My dog licking. Oh, oh God's sake, stop.
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  Speaker 1: That's funny.
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  Speaker 2: That one doesn't really bother me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God. Sciences neat a bigger dog. Science has
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  Speaker 1: been to understand mesophonium. It took over twenty years for
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  Speaker 1: researchers to arrive at a consensus definition of the condition. Formally,
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  Speaker 1: it is now described as quote a disorder of decreased
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  Speaker 1: tolerance to specific sounds or their associated stimuli or cues.
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  Speaker 1: These cues known as triggers. I hate the word trigger.
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  Speaker 1: Our experience is unpleasant or distressing and tend to evoke
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  Speaker 1: strong negative emotional physiological I have that and behavioral response
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  Speaker 1: is not seen in most other people. Like I get
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  Speaker 1: a physiological response to some noises like I clinch and
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  Speaker 1: just vibrate with anger, slash, disgust, fight or flight. Really, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it is. The definition is intentionally vague so as to
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  Speaker 1: be inclusive. Partly that's because the trigger is very widely
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  Speaker 1: and for different people. Chewing sounds are canonical, as in,
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  Speaker 1: like that's the core go to of people who have misophonia.
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  Speaker 1: Who is chewing sounds?
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  Speaker 4: Even thinking about chewing sounds is giving me a reaction.
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  Speaker 1: And I've told the story of the first time I
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  Speaker 1: ever noticed it in my life. I didn't know what
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  Speaker 1: was going on at the time, but the first time
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  Speaker 1: I can remember noticing it. I'm twenty years old, got
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  Speaker 1: my first serious, serious girlfriend where out after the bar's
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  Speaker 1: clothed were at this taco place. Her friend is sitting
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  Speaker 1: there telling a story while she eats chips and cheese dip,
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  Speaker 1: and she's dipping her nacho chips and cheese dip and
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  Speaker 1: then like licking the cheese and eating it and in
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  Speaker 1: between every other word. And I had this boiling rage
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  Speaker 1: that just started to grow and in myself I was
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  Speaker 1: even like, why am I so mad? I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: want to get I could kill her with my bare
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  Speaker 1: hands to make her stop doing that. Wow, it was
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  Speaker 1: just and it was the first time I ever had it.
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  Speaker 4: Where I've gotten in trouble is I've been in a
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  Speaker 4: some more situation and I'll say something like, hey.
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  Speaker 2: Oh is that that good?
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  Speaker 4: You enjoying that?
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  Speaker 1: I kept thinking, my head on chest.
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  Speaker 2: Ain't your fucking chips, Jesus crust? Oh boy, that's good.
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  Speaker 3: But you're right though in your introduction, the peach may
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  Speaker 3: be the all time champion because he got the crunch
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  Speaker 3: in the chew and the smacking, slip.
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  Speaker 1: Slopping, the sucking juice. Yes, yes, my son was eating
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  Speaker 1: the peach. My son was eating the peach fresh off
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  Speaker 1: the tree the other day, and I just I gotta
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  Speaker 1: leave the room.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to. Somebody's eating fruit like that. Oh
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  Speaker 2: my god.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: In one study, eighty three percent of people who identified
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  Speaker 1: as having miss aphonia reported chewing sounds as their earliest trigger.
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  Speaker 1: It was my first one ever in my life. It's
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  Speaker 1: funny that I can name the moment that I realized
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  Speaker 1: I had a problem with. It sometimes gets further broken
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  Speaker 1: down in the subcategories, which will include I know one
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  Speaker 1: of Joe's favorites, crunching, lip, smacking, teeth, sucking, which I've
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  Speaker 1: never noticed slurping slurping? Is that because she was slurping
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  Speaker 1: the cheese. That's like my number one slurping, slurping the peach,
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  Speaker 1: slurping the cheese. Any slurping. That's why I hate soup.
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  Speaker 1: I hate soup boy. I can't be in a room
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  Speaker 1: where people are eating soup.
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  Speaker 3: All right, fair enough, I love soups of all sorts,
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  Speaker 3: but I sympathize with your pain.
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  Speaker 1: Others are more bothered by nasal sounds or breathing or
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  Speaker 1: throat throat clearing. I don't have that.
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  Speaker 4: I did that to Drew the other day. His nose
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  Speaker 4: was whistling, and I almost kicked him out of the car.
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  Speaker 3: Personally, one stick your nose, whatever's in there, deal with it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care what it takes. Tissoe finger surgery, do
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  Speaker 2: something her snot rocket, I don't care.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I will approve of the snot rocket, whatever it
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  Speaker 3: takes you.
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  Speaker 1: This doctor, this U scientist said. Personally, I think that
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  Speaker 1: it should include the specific sound that's made when people
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  Speaker 1: knock a piece of peppermint against their teeth. That's theirs.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that I've ever heard that, But and
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  Speaker 1: this is I know this bothers Joe, And this one
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  Speaker 1: doesn't bother me at all. A minority get triggered by
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  Speaker 1: tapping or repetitive sounds like clicking a pen.
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  Speaker 2: Huh.
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  Speaker 1: For one of the reasons spies that somebody could click
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  Speaker 1: a pen in here all day, every day. I would
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  Speaker 1: never even notice it. That one does not bother me.
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  Speaker 1: There's Michaels doing it now, but I know it bothers.
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  Speaker 2: Joke.
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  Speaker 1: Crazy makes joke.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, oh man, that's funny.
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  Speaker 2: You put me on edge.
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  Speaker 3: The other day is riding with some people who I'm
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  Speaker 3: very fond of, when one of them was waking a
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  Speaker 3: loud clicking noise right behind my head as I'm driving
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  Speaker 3: the car, and I didn't say anything.
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  Speaker 1: What were they clicking? I know they the one that
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  Speaker 1: makes me might bother me more than slurping. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why. The sound of an earbud's case closing, that click,
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  Speaker 1: the snapping of it closed and my and you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's a funny thing that people like doing it themselves
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  Speaker 1: is soothing somehow, I guess people clicking pens on their
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  Speaker 1: own or opening and closing the earbud case. Both my
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  Speaker 1: kids will do that, like with their hands just riding
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  Speaker 1: in the car. If you got to stop that wrung
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  Speaker 1: over and shove you into the ditch and drive off,
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  Speaker 1: that's what's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 3: Fair, fair game. I'm completely unaware of that.
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  Speaker 2: I've never noticed.
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  Speaker 1: Anybody in particular sound it's so sharp and click click click, ah,
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  Speaker 1: But that's interesting. A minority are triggered by the tapping
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  Speaker 1: and repetitive sounds like that. Triggers can be hyper specific
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  Speaker 1: and idiosyncratic. You can go to Reddit and read about
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  Speaker 1: people are triggered by the sound of foot flops, hard
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  Speaker 1: see and K sounds wait and Southern accents. Wait, there's
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  Speaker 1: too much there, hard C and K sounds right?
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  Speaker 3: Do you what? Do you? What?
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  Speaker 2: Do you call the people's.
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  Speaker 3: Feline pet a sad because you don't want to hear
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  Speaker 3: the cat.
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  Speaker 1: The clicking of your cat in the Carolinas is gonna
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  Speaker 1: kill me.
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  Speaker 3: Kiki the cat kicked Kentucky continuously.
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  Speaker 1: God if I if I had that and it bothered
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  Speaker 1: me as much as like eating a peach, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how i'd live. I couldn't listen to the news.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't I'd have to live on an island.
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  Speaker 2: Wone. Yeah, I'd be a.
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  Speaker 3: This was before your time on the show, and it
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  Speaker 3: made as much of an impression on me as as
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  Speaker 3: virtually any correspondence we've ever gotten from a listener, and
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  Speaker 3: I've wanted desperately to find the email and follow up
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  Speaker 3: with the guy or whatever. But Jack, I'm sure you
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  Speaker 3: remember this, But you know that feeling you get when
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  Speaker 3: somebody cuts in line, for instance, that sense of social
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  Speaker 3: offense HM, that somebody's violating the social compact. It's like
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  Speaker 3: somebody uh driving like an a hole. There are a
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  Speaker 3: thousand examples of that sort of thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he felt.
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  Speaker 3: That so intensely every single day, just every single example
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  Speaker 3: of people not being decent people. He was on the
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  Speaker 3: verge of suicide all the time because it made him
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  Speaker 3: so miserable.
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  Speaker 2: WHOA.
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  Speaker 3: We'd been talking about that feeling of people who violate
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  Speaker 3: the social compact, and I've had to work on it
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  Speaker 3: because I was like, would be road rage guy, because
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  Speaker 3: I would be so angered by people who could have
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  Speaker 3: been kind and decent but just didn't because they could
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  Speaker 3: get away with it. I would want to hunt them down.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Funny. The human mind is so complicated in all this stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and why we're the way we are, Like, driving doesn't
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  Speaker 1: bother me at all. But at the movie THEE the
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  Speaker 1: other night, the people who make noise who talk during
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  Speaker 1: a movie, Oh, that breaking that social compound to me
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  Speaker 1: is just like a capital offense.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's just being rude. Some people are just stupid
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  Speaker 4: behind the wheel.
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  Speaker 1: How could you possibly do that talk during the movie.
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  Speaker 1: I should kill you, and I do want to you
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  Speaker 1: in your seat. It's dark, nobody will even know it
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  Speaker 1: was me, not the perfect crime.
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  Speaker 3: I do want to interview those people and say, all right, look,
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  Speaker 3: no judgment or anything.
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  Speaker 2: Don't worry.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to hit your I just I want
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  Speaker 3: to know are you doing that because you're e fing
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  Speaker 3: rude or two efing stupid to understand how effing rude
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  Speaker 3: you are?
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  Speaker 2: Which one is it?
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  Speaker 3: Because it is one or the other, you are either
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  Speaker 3: utterly unaware, which is astonishing to me, or you don't care,
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  Speaker 3: in which case you're a nahole.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I've always gone with or wondered you realize if
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  Speaker 1: we all did that, this whole thing would fall apart, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be confidence in here. Nobody'd hear the movie or.
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  Speaker 1: The cutting in line with If everybody did this would
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  Speaker 1: what the whole whole thing would break down right?
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  Speaker 2: So well, it'd like it look like Doorbuster Day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, on the day after Thanksgiving, your Black Friday sale
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  Speaker 3: where people are murdering each other over a seventy dollars
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  Speaker 3: toaster of it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad I'm not triggered by flip flops or hard
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  Speaker 1: sea sounds. But anyway, the final paragraph here I thought
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  Speaker 1: was really good. The strong negative emotional response is more
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  Speaker 1: consistent no matter which thing it is that sets you off.
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  Speaker 1: The reaction is very consistent. For people with missphonia. It
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  Speaker 1: almost is always described as either anger or disgust, or
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  Speaker 1: some combination thereof. The consensus definition also includes irritation and rage.
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  Speaker 1: I get actual rage and I hate it. I try to, like,
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  Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. You don't need to be this upset
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  Speaker 1: about somebody eating a peach, but I can't control it.
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  Speaker 1: Many people report panic and anxiety. Yeah, I need to
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  Speaker 1: run from the room. But this seems to be secondary
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  Speaker 1: and a value to have more about anticipation and whether
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  Speaker 1: they'll be able to hand the situation in public. That's
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  Speaker 1: kind of interesting. I think, like, am I gonna? Am
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  Speaker 1: I gonna make a fool of myself at some point
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  Speaker 1: by going, God, dang it, stop eating that beach. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be that person. If I didn't
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  Speaker 1: have miss a Phony and somebody else was explaining it
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  Speaker 1: to me, I would think you are a picky a hole.
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  Speaker 1: Get over it, That is what I would think, Ron.
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  Speaker 1: But because I do have it, I realize I got
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  Speaker 1: no control over this.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting how many human quirks.
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  Speaker 3: Have that same aspect to them that we should be
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  Speaker 3: a little more patient with others, make fewer assumptions about
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  Speaker 3: them being bad people.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like I'm an alcoholic and believe that's a thing.
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  Speaker 1: But like people who have gambling problems, I think, get
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  Speaker 1: a grip, grow up, don't be stupid.
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  Speaker 3: So let's see how long it takes Jack to catch on.
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  Speaker 3: Ain't wasting time?
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  Speaker 2: No more?
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  Speaker 3: Slash Melissa, Melissa, Slash Blue Sky, One.
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  Speaker 2: Way Out, No Good.
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  Speaker 3: Those are the fabulous cuts from the Allman Brothers classic
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  Speaker 3: album Eat a Peach.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that clever, very clever.
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  Speaker 2: Tie it back to what we already talked about.
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  Speaker 3: We'll circle, right, Michael, That's what I was trying to do.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Michael, you know, for me, it wasn't never a
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  Speaker 2: loud noise or anything. It was copyright infringement. I would
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  Speaker 2: run the sports bars.
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  Speaker 3: It took over my life and demand the letter that
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  Speaker 3: they sent the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and it drove me nuts. Took over my life. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I guess that's it.