Latest / Stugotz and Company / Set 2: JJ McCarthy Traded to the Giants

Transcript

Set 2: JJ McCarthy Traded to the Giants · Stugotz and Company

• 0:10
  Speaker 1: God bless football, Mikey A.
• 0:15
  Speaker 2: God bless football, Taylor.
• 0:17
  Speaker 3: God bless football, Stu Gatz.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: Wow, some excitement from Taylor today. Very, very exciting. Yeah,
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: that he's so excited. After a big football weekend, what
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: do you have for us? Here he goes.
• 0:28
  Speaker 3: Can I tell you where my excitement comes from? Because
• 0:31
  Speaker 3: this proves my NFL fandom here, how selfish an NFL
• 0:34
  Speaker 3: fan I am at this point.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 0:36
  Speaker 3: I say I'm a Patriots fan. I'm not really a
• 0:38
  Speaker 3: Patriots fan. I'm a Mack Hollins fan.
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 0:40
  Speaker 3: Yesterday, if you watch Jaguars-Patriots, you know who led the
• 0:44
  Speaker 3: Patriots in receiving?
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: Mack Hollins.
• 0:46
  Speaker 3: Mack Hollins.
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 0:48
  Speaker 3: Led the way.
• 0:48
  Speaker 4: I would have said a Jaguar.
• 0:50
  Speaker 3: Matt Collins led the way in an absolute blowout. But
• 0:53
  Speaker 3: because my friend was able to get his, it was
• 0:56
  Speaker 3: a good day for me.
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: So that's like a win for you, right? Yes? Yeah,
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: I'm 1-0 this week. He wishes he was playing with
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: another quarterback. I don't care what you tell me. He
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: does because Drake May forgot how to play football.
• 1:08
  Speaker 4: It's weird.
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: Let's see if J.J. McCarthy has remembered how to play
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: football because, guys, we have breaking news on a big
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: Football Monday. Breaking news today. J.J. McCarthy traded from the
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: Vikings to the New York Giants. How about that?
• 1:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's a fifth-round pick going back to Minnesota.
• 1:31
  Speaker 3: I don't get this trade from the Giants' perspective because
• 1:34
  Speaker 3: you give up a fifth-round pick for a failed development quarterback.
• 1:37
  Speaker 3: There's nothing about J.J. McCarthy's play at quarterback to suggest
• 1:41
  Speaker 3: that he's a win-now option. And I think a fifth-round
• 1:44
  Speaker 3: pick is overpaying for what we've seen from the former No.
• 1:47
  Speaker 3: 10 overall pick. You would have to give me a
• 1:50
  Speaker 3: fifth-round pick at this point to take J.J.
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: McCarthy. But there's always a coach who thinks he could
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: fix it, and this happens to be the brother of
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: the coach who coached him in college. Imagine how that
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: conversation went down, because you know there was a conversation
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: before John Harbaugh went and traded to get J.J. McCarthy,
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: who played for his brother at Michigan, Jim Harbaugh. I'm
• 2:09
  Speaker 1: surprised Jim didn't inquire. I mean, the way his quarterback's playing, geez.
• 2:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but John Harbaugh is the one who thinks he
• 2:16
  Speaker 3: can fix J.J. McCarthy when he's playing in Minnesota with
• 2:19
  Speaker 3: Mikey's so-called quarterback whisper, and he's going to hand over J.J.
• 2:23
  Speaker 3: McCarthy to Matt Nagy?
• 2:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he can or he can't. I'm just
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: saying there's always a coach who thinks he can. That's
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: all I'm saying. And John Harbaugh is that coach. Yeah, Mikey.
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: First of all, when you said that he got traded
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: to the New York Giants, my heart skipped a beat.
• 2:38
  Speaker 4: I thought you were going to say the New York Jets.
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: I take it.
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: Because I was like, oh, no, please no. But I mean,
• 2:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think they traded for J.J. McCarthy to be
• 2:48
  Speaker 2: a win now guy. I think they traded him because
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: your starting quarterback is Jameis Winston, who has been hurt
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: in the past. who is getting older, and who's playing
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: behind an offensive line that hasn't looked really good, I
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: think they traded a fifth-round pick for a backup option
• 3:04
  Speaker 2: that maybe has a higher ceiling than others.
• 3:07
  Speaker 1: It's a backup option with the potential to start if
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: they could, you know, if John Harbaugh could fix them.
• 3:13
  Speaker 1: There is potential to start, but I'm with Mikey on this.
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: Even though the Giants won, they beat a bad Titans team,
• 3:18
  Speaker 1: the Jets beat that team. Cam Ward, I have no
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: idea if he's good still. In fact, I'm going to
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: say it. He's not. Yeah, he's not. He's not very good. But, listen,
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: it was an unimpressive win. They weren't great offensively. Jameis
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: was not great. I'm with Mikey. It's worth a fifth-round
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: pick to get a solid backup who is young, who
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: has some potential. That's all. Has some upside. That's it.
• 3:40
  Speaker 3: I guess where we're just going to have to agree
• 3:41
  Speaker 3: to disagree is saying that he's a solid backup. Because
• 3:44
  Speaker 3: nothing about J.J. McCarthy's play suggests that he's a solid
• 3:49
  Speaker 3: option at the quarterback position. And I think if you're
• 3:51
  Speaker 3: a Giants fan, if Jameis goes down and J.J. McCarthy,
• 3:56
  Speaker 3: if nine has to stroll into the game... There's no
• 3:59
  Speaker 3: way you could tell me your confidence level goes up
• 4:02
  Speaker 3: or at the very least stays the same. And I
• 4:04
  Speaker 3: feel bad for Giants fans today who I have a
• 4:07
  Speaker 3: ton of Giants fans in my life. I felt bad
• 4:09
  Speaker 3: for them because I thought the worst news that they
• 4:11
  Speaker 3: were going to get today was Brian Burns tearing his ACL.
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: And then J.J.
• 4:14
  Speaker 3: McCarthy trade news strolls right around. I'm like, oh, man.
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 4:18
  Speaker 3: Insult to injury.
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: I don't feel bad for them. They're two and one.
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, they are. They're two and one. What do
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: you have for us here before we get to winners
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: and losers? I am told you have a prediction you
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: made back in March that might be true, that might
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: That might be accurate. So what was the prediction you
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: made back in March that we all forgot about?
• 4:40
  Speaker 4: Hold on.
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: I know. Hold on. What are we doing here?
• 4:43
  Speaker 4: Look at his face right now.
• 4:44
  Speaker 2: Look at the, I'm trying to hide this smile, but
• 4:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not really trying to hide the smile face he
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: has on right now.
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: I promise you.
• 4:51
  Speaker 4: He is so proud of himself.
• 4:53
  Speaker 2: Whatever's about to come in the next two minutes, Taylor
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: is so happy with himself.
• 4:59
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: And I promise you there are 17 other predictions he
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: made in March that he's not going to bring up today.
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: Go ahead. What's the prediction?
• 5:06
  Speaker 3: So this prediction came on the heels of the Ravens
• 5:10
  Speaker 3: Raiders trade of Max Crosby falling through where the Ravens
• 5:14
  Speaker 3: said that Max Crosby failed his physical. Max Crosby was
• 5:17
  Speaker 3: going to return to the Raiders. And we're talking about
• 5:20
  Speaker 3: what this trade means for the Raiders, what it means
• 5:22
  Speaker 3: for the Ravens. And this was our analysis of it.
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: Or if you're the Raiders, you got to try and
• 5:26
  Speaker 2: find somebody that's willing to give you something close to
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: what the Ravens did.
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: No one will.
• 5:31
  Speaker 3: To the point of the Raiders revamping their roster, they
• 5:34
  Speaker 3: add Tyler Linderbaum at center. They add Quay Walker and
• 5:38
  Speaker 3: N'Kobe Dean at linebacker. They add Jalen Naylor at receiver.
• 5:43
  Speaker 3: You know who's a good piece to add to that?
• 5:45
  Speaker 4: Max Crosby. Max Crosby.
• 5:50
  Speaker 3: Then you draft Fernando Mendoza.
• 5:52
  Speaker 4: And all of a sudden.
• 5:53
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of talking myself into the Raiders.
• 5:56
  Speaker 1: And you're 3-0 with Kirk Cousins. I said it.
• 5:59
  Speaker 3: I said it. I was in March. I was looking
• 6:02
  Speaker 3: at the Raiders roster, and I was saying, yes, this
• 6:05
  Speaker 3: team was the worst team in the NFL where they
• 6:07
  Speaker 3: got the number one pick. But you bring in Clint Kubiak.
• 6:09
  Speaker 3: You bring in some of these pieces on the defensive
• 6:12
  Speaker 3: side of the ball. All of a sudden, you could
• 6:14
  Speaker 3: talk yourself into this Raider roster. Now, what I didn't
• 6:17
  Speaker 3: see at the time was Kirk Cousins coming in and
• 6:20
  Speaker 3: elevating this team even further.
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: Right. You can talk yourself into this Raiders roster until
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: they play the Chiefs, and I think that's next week.
• 6:27
  Speaker 3: That might be a who's who game.
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: Really? I think the Chiefs know exactly who they are.
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Mikey.
• 6:33
  Speaker 2: Do you know what the line is for that game
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: in Vegas? The game is in Vegas. I'm not saying
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: the line in Vegas like at the sports book.
• 6:41
  Speaker 4: But do you know what the line is for that game?
• 6:42
  Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it.
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: Ooh, guess the spread. Oh, guess the line. Is that
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: something Bill Simmons does? We love Bill Simmons. All things
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: Bill Simmons.
• 6:48
  Speaker 3: Sunday staple for him.
• 6:49
  Speaker 4: Cousin Sal.
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: Are we stealing from Simmons right now? I don't mind
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: that we're stealing from Simmons.
• 6:53
  Speaker 3: We're playing on the same team with FanDuel, yeah.
• 6:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, listen, I love Bill Simmons. He has
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: stolen plenty from me. So anyway.
• 7:00
  Speaker 3: Billy Gill included.
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: The most important thing he's stolen from me. I owe
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: him one or two or three or four. So, okay,
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: we're going to guess the line here. The game is
• 7:11
  Speaker 1: in Las Vegas or Kansas City?
• 7:13
  Speaker 4: The game is in Vegas.
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: And before you give me your guess, what do you
• 7:16
  Speaker 2: think that spread probably would have been preseason? If you
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: would have said, hey, week four matchup, Patrick Mahomes is
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: all the way back playing the Raiders.
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: Right. I would guess something close to what the spread
• 7:28
  Speaker 1: was against the Dolphins yesterday, minus 10, minus 10.5, something
• 7:31
  Speaker 1: like that. Sure.
• 7:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay.
• 7:33
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 7:34
  Speaker 4: I would have said probably more. I would have said
• 7:35
  Speaker 4: probably 12-and-a-half, 13.
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, you're probably right. Taylor, so we're going to guess
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: the spread for this week. That is the setting of
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: the backdrop. We're going to guess the spread for this
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: week's game. Both teams are 3-0. I can't believe I'm
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: saying that. This Raiders team is frisky. I'm going to
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: go with a guess the line of. They're at home.
• 7:56
  Speaker 3: I'm going to guess 7-and-a-half. The Chiefs are favored by 7-and-a-half.
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say the Chiefs are favored minus 3-and-a-half.
• 8:03
  Speaker 4: It's four and a half.
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 8:06
  Speaker 4: Four and a half.
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 8:08
  Speaker 4: I would have been, I was so surprised that that is,
• 8:14
  Speaker 4: that is all they.
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: Believe that the, the, the, the chiefs who were saying
• 8:17
  Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is back.
• 8:18
  Speaker 4: They have this elite level defense.
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: Spags against Kirk cousins and the Las Vegas Raiders.
• 8:25
  Speaker 4: They're saying no four points. Yep.
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: Makes sense. They're three and oh, who they beat in
• 8:31
  Speaker 1: their three games. The Raiders I'm talking about. I know
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: they beat the Saints yesterday on the road.
• 8:36
  Speaker 3: Dolphins, Chargers.
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: Dolphins, Chargers. So we're still waiting for them to play somebody.
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: Dolphins are given a clinic and had a tank. I'm sorry.
• 8:46
  Speaker 4: Chargers, Dolphins, and Saints. There's one win between those three teams.
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: Right. But we thought the Chargers would be better. The
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: Saints are better. That was the most impressive victory for
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: the Raiders was beating the Saints on the road. The
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: Saints coming off that big victory the week before. Who
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: have the Chiefs beaten here early on? I forget who
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: they've played.
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: Colts, Broncos, Dolphins.
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: Dolphins. All right, so they both played the Dolphins. Who
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: do you like in that game? Because I'm thinking about
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: pounding the Chiefs. This is a game where the Chiefs
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: remind the Raiders who they are, meaning the Raiders, hey,
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: you're 3-0 off to a nice little start here, okay?
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: But we have won a ton of Super Bowls. We
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: have Patrick Mahomes. This is a game where the Chiefs
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: remind both the Raiders and the Chiefs, who they are.
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: How about that? Does that make sense?
• 9:35
  Speaker 4: How about that was a cute three weeks. Congratulations.
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: You've got more wins now or the same amount of
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: wins now as you did all of last year.
• 9:43
  Speaker 4: Yes. That was really good. Thank you for telling everybody
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: this is a great division.
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 9:48
  Speaker 4: But get back where you belong, little brother.
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: Yep. I am pounding the Chiefs. I will buy that
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: half point. I will make it four before that thing
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: climbs to seven or eight points. Maybe 10%. Who knows?
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: What do you have?
• 10:01
  Speaker 4: Chiefs win by 12. All right.
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: Chiefs win by 12.
• 10:04
  Speaker 4: Buy the half point. Chiefs win by 12.
• 10:07
  Speaker 1: It's such a stupid exercise. I'm going to stop picking games.
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: I'm terrible at it. Stugatz here. Welcome to your most
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: rewarding season ever, only on FanDuel. How rewarding are we talking?
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: More rewarding than a touchdown with time expiring? More rewarding
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: than an 18-point comeback? Maybe even more rewarding than an
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: O-lineman catching a touchdown. I mean, come on. Everyone loves
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: a big man touchdown. And this NFL season, that feeling
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: doesn't stop on the field. Look out for the all-new
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: FanDuel Rewards Club, exclusive offers, surprises, and more. So every week,
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: check the FanDuel app to see... Who's waiting for you?
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: More rewarding than watching a kicker make a game-saving tackle?
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: All right, that one's close. Make this your most rewarding
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: season ever with FanDuel. Visit FanDuel.com slash blessed to get started.
• 10:58
  Speaker 5: 21 and over in select states for Kansas in affiliation
• 11:00
  Speaker 5: with Kansas Star Casino. 18 and over in D.C., Wyoming.
• 11:04
  Speaker 5: Gambling problem?
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: Call 1-800-GAMBLER.
• 11:06
  Speaker 4: 1-800-MY-RESET.
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: Call 1-888-789-7777.
• 11:07
  Speaker 4: Visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut.
• 11:09
  Speaker 5: Visit mdgamblinghelp.org, Maryland. Visit gamblinghelplinema.org. Call 800-327-5050, Massachusetts. Call 1-877-8HOPE-NY.
• 11:12
  Speaker 5: Text HOPE-NY, New York. Call 1-877-770-7867, Louisiana.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: Taylor has a, before we get to winners and losers,
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: and it was a great weekend, Saturday and Sunday, Taylor
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: has a new segment, I believe it's a new segment,
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: called Glass Half Full. So what are we doing here, Taylor?
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: What do you have for us on glass half full?
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: So we're going to say we're going to go around
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: the room and you say glass half full. You'll get
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: a sounder and then you have to spin zone a
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: team that lost into why it's it's not the worst
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: loss in the world and why the glass might be
• 12:19
  Speaker 3: half full for them.
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: OK.
• 12:21
  Speaker 4: OK.
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: Confused a little bit.
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: Why don't you show us how I'll start it off.
• 12:26
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: Glass half full.
• 12:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Ooh, that's a big glass.
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: If you're the New York Jets, you have to come
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: away impressed from that game with the Detroit Lions simply
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: because of the fact that you have a... bona fide No.
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: 1 receiver in Garrett Wilson, and your first-round pick at
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: tight end, Sadiq. Sadiq looks like he's on his way
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: to being a top-five tight end in the NFL. Now,
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: Geno was good in that game, but if you could
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: really nail the quarterback position in this upcoming draft with
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: how many first-round picks the Jets have and how good
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: some of those first-round picks look, the glass might be
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: half-full in New York. That's how you do it.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: Can I point.
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: Out the empty half of the glass? It's only half full.
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: It's always empty in New York. Entirely empty. All of it.
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: As your son turns to you, Mikey, at any point
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: and said, don't take Garrett Wilson in the first round, huh?
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: No, I mean, he's been pretty good, huh?
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: He has been pretty good.
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: You should get a segment on the show.
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: So your glass half full is that jet loss was
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: not as bad. There are some things you see there,
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: some building blocks.
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: You have two main building blocks on your offense with
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson and Kenyon Sadiq.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: Okay. But a quarterback is what we're always missing.
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: The quarterback's not bad.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: Well, he's old. Go ahead, Mikey. Mikey's dying to play
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: the game. No, no, no.
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: Listen, I think I get how the game goes. Okay.
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: Glass half full.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: That's a full glass, man. It's a big glass. It's
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: a pint, I think.
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: It's a big glass.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: My bad.
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: Semantics.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: I feel like Izzy. I'm sorry.
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: The Bucs might be 0-3.
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: But they're one game out of first place in that division.
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: And they just got some good news on Baker Mayfield.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: There's no ligament damage, no break for his thumb. He
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: should be out probably about three weeks. Now you're going
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: to get Baker coming back with maybe a little bit.
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: Of a chip on his shoulder. Maybe Baker comes back
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: three weeks from now and they're like, hey, Baker, you
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: get hurt too much.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: Baker, you can't win from being down this many games.
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: Your season is already over.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: Maybe you get a chip on his shoulder, Baker Mayfield,
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: and they're only one game out.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: I was told I have to wait for the drink
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: to pour before I could say anything. The problem, the
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: real injury to Baker Mayfield is they removed the chip
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: from his shoulder. That's the real problem, is it not?
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like you could be 0-9 in
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: that division and still be a game out.
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: Put it on the poll.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: The NFC South, Taylor, put it on the poll. Could
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: you be 0-9 and still only be a game out
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: in that division? All right, so I get to try
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: it out. Glass half full. I feel like the Cincinnati
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Bengals lost. I was shocked they lost to the Steelers,
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: but they lost that game. They're still 2-1. They're still
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: very much in that division. They're obviously a better team. Again,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: shocked that the Steelers won that game, but it's not
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: the end of the world for the Bengals. They lost
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: a road game in the division to Pittsburgh. I feel like,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: and I was surprised that Joe Burrow was not able
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: to get that done, but It was a loss, just
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: a loss, and the Bengals are going to be just fine.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of with you there because anytime you watch
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals and Joe Burrow, there's a reason why
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: people can't quit Joe Burrow. He goes to the Super
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: Bowl early in his career. He hasn't really had any
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: postseason success since. And there's some questions like, does he
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: need a better defense? Does he need a better offensive line?
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: As a passer, Joe Burrow is about as flawless as
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: you could get from your quarterback position.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: And there is a certain confidence that comes like, okay,
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: Joe Burrow just has to get to the playoffs this
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: year healthy, and then hopefully your defense is better and
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: takes over. And with the AFC North, it feels like
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: you could almost throw all those results away because those
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: teams have such familiarity with each other that every game
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: that they play winds up being close no matter what.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: You know, how good the teams are here.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: All four teams in that division, two and one. Exactly.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: That's gross. That's gross. Why is it gross?
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a good division. Is it?
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: Is it?
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Well, it is. Come on. I mean.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: Is it?
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: And, Stu, this stat from yesterday, Joe Burrow recorded a
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: career-high 95.4 QBR in today's loss to the Steelers. So, like,
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: you can have as many questions as you want about
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Bengals today. coming off their first loss of
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: the season, none of those questions really revolve around your
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: quarterback position, which is the most important position.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Was it hard to– well, I wasn't cheering for him,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: but how did you guys feel about Deshaun Watson yesterday
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: and the Browns getting that victory? He's hard to cheer for.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: I didn't even consider turning on that.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: Really?
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: That Panthers-Brown team.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: I had six games on, and I wouldn't even– that
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: one was last on the list. Like, I would have
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: put on, like– Something other than football before I put
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: that game.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: And I like the Panthers.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: That's a terrible loss, though, if you're the Carolina Panthers.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's an awful loss. But that's strictly, Mikey, because
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: of Deshaun Watson. You just don't want to watch that
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: guy have any sort of success. You just don't want
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: to watch them, right?
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: It's that team. There's nothing exciting about them. I mean,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: what do you want? There's no Miles Garrett where you're like, hey,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: maybe I'll get to see Miles Garrett have three sacks.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: There's nothing exciting about the Cleveland Browns.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I got to tell you, there might be one NFL
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: game on Thursday night, and I might not watch it.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: How great is this? The Browns are better without Miles Garrett.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: They're 2-1, and the team he was traded to is 1-2.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: The NFL, man, it is the greatest thing going. I
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: don't care if you weren't entertained by that game. I
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: don't care if you don't want to root for Deshaun Watson.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I understand why. But the idea that the Browns are
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: 2-1 and the team that Miles Garrett went to to
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl is 1-2 and he's out for
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: the next four weeks. It's just that's why we love
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: the NFL, I think, right? Anything can happen on any
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: given year on any given Sunday. And it's happening right now.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: The Raiders are 3-0. Did you guys see the hit?
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I can't remember his name. Number 44 on the Dolphins.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: That hit he had on Patrick Mahomes. Chop Robinson. Yes,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: in the end. What is he supposed to do there?
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: How is he supposed to? Why is that a flag?
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: How is he supposed to pull up that quickly when
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Mahomes is in throwing motion and he's trying to chase
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: him down? It was a terrible call. I'm not certain
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: what a D lineman is supposed to do in that spot.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Did you guys? Well, you weren't watching that.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Of course we watched it.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Okay. I mean, yes, it is God bless football. I understand.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: But you won't watch the Browns again. I'm just asking,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: what do you want a defensive lineman to do in
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: that situation?
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: The penalty that I have a bigger problem with today
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: is the penalty in the Rams-Broncos game where the Rams
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: all but got the game-sealing interception and the refs come
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: and say it's a pass interference and they're going to
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: the end rules analyst and saying, no, that shouldn't be
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: pass interference. I don't understand how pass interference determines the
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: most amount of games, and we're not saying that that's
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: a reviewable play, all because the one season it was,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: the refs got in their feelings every time they got
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: questioned saying, let's challenge pass interference, and they were like, oh, no,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: we're not going to overturn this call because it's not
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: clear and obvious. Like, if you're the Rams today, I
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: think you have a pretty big gripe with the officiating
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: in that game where the Broncos got, like, nine chances
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: inside the 10 to score, and then they finally gave
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: up the play. And you know it's a bad call
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: when everybody– that's a football fan is on the side
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: of the Rams right now where the Rams come in
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: as the preseason favorites. Everybody seems to be wanting to
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: root against Sean McVay in this team. And everybody watching
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: that game is like, yeah, I think the Rams got,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: got screwed pretty bad. I think pass interference has to
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: be reviewable.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: If there's a coach that fans want to root for
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: or root against less, it's, it's Sean Payton.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's why they're rushing to the Rams defense.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Yes. All right, let's get to what do you got, Mikey,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: before we get to winners and losers? It seemed like
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: you had some.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: I was just I was just thinking about what you said. Like, oh, man,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: the NFL. How crazy is it? Miles Garrett gets traded.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: This this just hit me.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: The Patriots, Texans, Chargers, Packers, Bucks and Cowboys all have
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: the same amount of wins combined.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: As the Raiders, it's stupid and awesome.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Raiders, good team.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Say those teams.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know if the Raiders are good.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: No, you don't. Four and a half. Who are you
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: taking this weekend, huh?
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: I'm going down with the Raiders.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Are you?
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: That's such a crap line. That line is begging people
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: to bet my homes.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's kind of like the Mississippi-Florida spread from the weekend.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, they were begging you, and I did. I
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: bought it. And I took Mississippi, and I felt stupid
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: by halftime. Anyway, let's get to winners and losers here
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: from the NFL weekend. Give me the music.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: My first winner from the weekend.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Broncos offensive coordinator, Davis Webb. They were getting shut out
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: at halftime, 16-0.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: And the entire broadcast... Collinsworth said the start to the
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: half was basically a drive for Davis Webb's job because
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: everybody thinks that Sean Payton is just waiting in the
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: shadows to take back play calling. And the only reason
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Sean Payton gave him play calling to begin with was
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: so that he didn't take another head coaching job and
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: had to elevate Davis Webb. And there were some questions.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: They go three and out almost immediately in that drive
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: that Collinsworth said he was coaching for his job. And
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: then from that point on, that Broncos offense started moving
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: where I think everybody thought that the Broncos were left
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: for dead when they're down 16 to this Rams team
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: at halftime. 30-26 win. You saw some life from that
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: offense at the end.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: Mikey, I'll give you a winner because they lost.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: The New York Jets.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: The New York Jets now own three top ten picks going.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Into the draft. That's crazy.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Because we're sitting here looking at the Jets going, hey,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: they don't look that bad.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: They don't look that bad. They're getting there.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: They own three picks in the top ten because the
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Packers keep losing. The Cowboys keep losing. The Colts actually
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: won a game. But, man, they don't look good. And
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: then the Jets are just competently losing.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: There's a world next draft. Close your eyes and imagine this.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Darren Mensah is on the Jets. Colin Simmons from Texas
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: is on the Jets. Jeremiah Smith is on the Jets.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Special.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Man, that is three players we can ruin.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: That's an impossible situation to ruin.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: No, it's not. Not for the Jets. Nothing's impossible.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: They've ruined more.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: That's a perfect trifecta of careers that the Jets can ruin.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I am with Mikey A on this.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: My first loser. You've never participated in winners and losers.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Well, I just have one winner. I have one loser.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Let's see if you guys get to him. If not,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I'll get to him at the end. Go ahead, Taylor.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: My first loser, Cam Ward and the Tennessee Titans.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Makes sense.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: That game was set up for the Titans to win,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: where the Giants can only muster up field goals with
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Jameis Winston at quarterback. They're up 12-0. The Titans cut
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: it to 12-7 with some big plays from Wondell Robinson.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: And then they're driving and they're driving and they're driving.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: And Cam Ward, you're looking at the stats, and he's
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: like 11 for 13 his last two drives. They get
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: inside the 10. Cam Ward for the win. Javon Holland
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: interception in the red zone. Cam Ward goes out like
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: a wet fart.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Have you heard Javon Holland's post-game interview talking about that interception?
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I encourage anybody to go find it and listen to
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: it because.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: It is amazing.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Well, what did he say? Can you give us an idea?
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: You know what? I couldn't give you– you just have
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: to listen to it. I couldn't give you an idea.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: So, Mikey, I don't have that sound actually, but I
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: have this sound of Jameis Winston in the post-game. saying
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: that the 12 points they scored was in honor of
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Jackson Dart, and you're going to be left even more
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: confused when he goes through this explanation.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I love him. There was no doubt on the sideline
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: that it was going to happen.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Obviously, we are Alberta's keeper winning this game for Jackson.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: 12 points, six times two.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: It's for you. That's 12.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Six times two.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Six times... So I understand six is Jackson Dart. Yeah.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Why are we multiplying it by two just to get
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: to the 12?
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: There's no other reason for the two, right? Like I
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: didn't miss something there.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: No, Jackson Dart's number is six. He needed to make
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: it appear like they were winning this for Jackson Dart
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: and some variation of his number. So we went with 12.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: What if they needed more points, though, like 13 or 14?
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Six plus seven. It's 13. We scored the 7 at
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: the end of the game to get to 13.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: He just needed to get to 6. What if they
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: got 3? 6 minus 3.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: It was like, I heard that in the postgame, and
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: I was like, what the heck was that?
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Strange dude. Mikey has a loser here. I'm trying to
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: think about what Jameis Winston did, what he said. I
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: don't think he wasn't responsible for any of their points.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: And Cam Ward is always throwing for 188 yards.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: But he had a really nice tackle on Cam Scadaboo
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: right on the goal line.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw that. Yes.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: He turned around to hand the ball to Cam Scadaboo.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: He was supposed to go left. Cam was supposed to
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: go right. Don't know what happened.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: But Scadaboo runs into him and immediately hits the ground.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Nice tackle, Jameis Winston.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: Cam Ward, 23 completions, 181 yards.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: The Alex Smith is strong in him. Anyway, go ahead, Mikey. Loser.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: My loser.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you bet on yourself and it pays off. And
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: sometimes you're C.J.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Stroud. C.J. Stroud. Your defense finally somewhat shows up for you.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: And you just pooped the bed when it mattered.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: And the Houston Texans, a team many of us had
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: go into the Super Bowl or at least go to
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: the AFC Championship game. Right.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: They are 0-3.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: C.J. Stroud, big loser.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: They're done, as far as you're concerned? No shot?
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: No, because that's still not a good division.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Right. So they have a chance, right?
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah. By the way, C.J. Stroud, 16 of 27. Wow.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: One touchdown.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Hmm. What happened to him?
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: It feels like they just haven't supported him in getting
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: the necessary pieces around him.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The Texans' excuse the entire time is like, well, C.J.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Stroud is just going to make everybody better around him.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: And it's like, no, that's not really how winning teams
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: kind of build around a franchise-level quarterback. Like the Bills
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: don't just say, oh, Josh Allen, go figure out how
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: to win this one for us.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Although it seems like they do. And it seems like
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: he does most weeks. All right, I have a winner
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: and a loser you guys didn't get to. My winner,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: my winner, Miami Dolphins.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: No.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Even in a loss. What?
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: No.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: What do you mean no?
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: You lost HN.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: I think you're doing this wrong.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: You lost HN. That's all part of the tank, okay? No. No, no, no, no.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: The Dolphins know they're not going to be good, okay?
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Halfley's the coach. Malik Willis is the quarterback. They brought
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: in to tank the season, all right? And he's doing
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: a phenomenal job. They played the Chiefs a lot closer
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: than people expected, yet they still lost the game. So
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: they give the appearance that they're actually trying to win games,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: while losing games, and they are marching for Arch. My big,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: big loser. Patriots.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Losers.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: That man, Drake May, who we watched play in the
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl not too long ago, has forgotten how to
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: play the position. He's my loser. They're my losers.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: I just can't get on board with the Miami Dolphins
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: being winners today.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Because even if this rebuild.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Goes to plan. Loss is a win. I mean.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: You're playing. next year can't be Devin Achan coming off
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: an ACL injury. I'm with you until the Devin Achan injury.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: And that's where you kind of lose me on the
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Dolphins being winners.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: All right. I mean. But now they don't have to
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: keep it close anymore. They could just flatly lose and
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: lose by a lot. They don't have Achan anymore. I mean, Mikey,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: how many years have we talked about wanting the Jets
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: to be bad? And be bad enough where you can
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: get the top pick in the NFL draft. And the
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Dolphins appear to be headed in that direction. For a
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: bad organization, it's a win.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you want them to be bad, but you
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: don't want them to be injured bad. You don't want
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: them to be.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: They're not.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: Resting, H.A. There's nothing to look at that Dolphins roster
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: and go.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Save them, save them, yeah. I mean, yeah.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Listen, a little bit.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Less wear and tear on the body for HN. I'm
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: not even certain he tore anything. I just think they
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: want to sit him because they know. All right, you
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: guys are winning. I cannot believe you of all people,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: who we have said for many, many years, Jets, that
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: is a bad win. When they win their ninth game
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: of the season, a meaningless game, Jets.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: Bad win.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: If you're going to lose, lose them all. Well, the
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Dolphins are losing them all. And for me, that's a win.