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136. The Disappearance of Dorothy Arnold · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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Speaker 1: be if I didn't touch on some true crime here,
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Speaker 1: there and everywhere. And also, it's been a while since
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Speaker 1: we had a little bit of a mystery, a cold case.
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Speaker 1: A I mean, it's not who done it, because we
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Speaker 1: don't know what done it or what happened. It is
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Speaker 1: the story of an heiress, a missing heiress who well
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Speaker 1: went missing and wasn't seen ever again, which is kind
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Speaker 1: of unsurprising, you know, for someone who's missing. So I'm
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Speaker 1: going to start off from an article from like nineteen
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Speaker 1: fifty in the New York Times, and the headline reads
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Speaker 1: Dorothy Anold missing forty years and the article is published
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Speaker 1: on the thirteenth of December nineteen fifty. So the article
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Speaker 1: basically gives an overview of the case and how at
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Speaker 1: the time of publication, at time of printing, that Dorothy
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Speaker 1: would be about sixty five sixty five years old, because
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Speaker 1: there's no proof whatsoever that she actually died, and so
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Speaker 1: there's murmurings that, you know, she's still alive. Now granted,
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Speaker 1: we are, you know, one hundred and fourteen years old
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Speaker 1: from her disappearance. So I am going to go out
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Speaker 1: on a limb and say that she's not like one
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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty something year old. I'm going to go
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Speaker 1: out an a limb and say that, yeah, I think
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Speaker 1: Dorothy Arnold might be dead by now. I think we
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Speaker 1: can agree a general consensus, if you will. In this case,
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Speaker 1: it made headlines in nineteen ten. It was the story. Now.
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Speaker 1: Of course, Dorothy Arnold was not the first person ever
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Speaker 1: to go missing or the first woman ever to go missing, clearly,
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Speaker 1: but you know, she was an heiress, she was well
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Speaker 1: to do, she was she was of the higher crop
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Speaker 1: of society, you know what I mean. And so women missing, sorry,
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Speaker 1: rich white women missing, and it kind of made headlines,
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Speaker 1: especially when she goes missing, and it's really really weird.
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Speaker 1: It's quite suspicious. And so yeah, Dorothy Arnold. But before
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Speaker 1: we get into her disappearance, we have to know who
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Speaker 1: she is. And you know, it's good to slip into
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Speaker 1: some context. Let's do just that. Dorothy Harriet Camille Arnold,
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Speaker 1: because everybody has to have a bunch of names in
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Speaker 1: the past. She was born on the first of July
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Speaker 1: eighteen eighty five in New Yuck City. I will never
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Speaker 1: not do it. Now you must. I'll suffer through it.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's just how it is. So she is
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Speaker 1: the second child to Francis Rose Arnold, who is a
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Speaker 1: Harvard University gradge Root and who soon your partner off
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Speaker 1: Arnold and Cole, which I'll talk about more in a second.
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Speaker 1: And Mary Martha Parks Arnold. So many names, and Dorothy,
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Speaker 1: she's kind of she's kind of the middle child, which
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Speaker 1: is going to become really apparent in a wee while.
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Speaker 1: But she's she's got an older brother named John. Now
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Speaker 1: I've read somewhere that John was born in eighteen eighty four,
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Speaker 1: in December eighteen eighty four, Which here's the thing. I'm
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Speaker 1: not the best at mental arithmetic, but even I can
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Speaker 1: tell that that math ain't mathin right. It doesn't add
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Speaker 1: up because if he was born in December eighteen eighty
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Speaker 1: four and she was born in July eighteen eighty five,
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Speaker 1: that's barely seven months, you know, seven months gestation. So
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Speaker 1: even if even if Mary Martha Parked Arnold managed to
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Speaker 1: get impregnated right after giving birth, which women needs time
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Speaker 1: to heal, like, there's probably tearing. Because you're in childbirth,
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Speaker 1: your vagina has a seventy five percent chance of tearing.
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Speaker 1: Fun fact. So yeah, yeah, you know, and premie babies
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Speaker 1: in eighteen eighty five. You think a premie baby's gonna
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Speaker 1: do well in eighteen eighty five. No, No, that's not happening.
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Speaker 1: That's that's just not it. So clearly someone buggered up
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Speaker 1: the math here somewhere, somebody wrote down a number wrong.
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Speaker 1: He was probably born in December eighteen eighty three, and
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Speaker 1: they just went eighteen eighty four. That makes perfect sense
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Speaker 1: because he's basically a year and a bit older. Math guys,
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Speaker 1: math stay in school anyway, Dorothy ends up having two
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Speaker 1: younger siblings as well, Dan who was born in eighteen
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Speaker 1: eighty eight and Marjorie, who was born in eighteen ninety one.
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Speaker 1: Now that's a good couple of years between having Dorothy
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Speaker 1: and having Dan. So again this kind of makes her like,
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Speaker 1: growing up, she would have been much older than the
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Speaker 1: other two, you know, So she's effectively a middle child.
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Speaker 1: Like I don't care if there's an even number of kids,
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Speaker 1: she's the middle one. I'm just saying. So, yes, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna stop to tell you about fr Arnold and Cole
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Speaker 1: just because just because I love the fact fancy goods
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Speaker 1: it's sold fancy goods like makeup, in perfume and the like, like,
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Speaker 1: which isn't surprising because they're a very fancy family. How
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Speaker 1: fancy you ask? Well, I'm glad you did, because I'll
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Speaker 1: tell you. Well, so fancy that her dad's side, like
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Speaker 1: way back, they traveled over on the Mayflower, her mom's side,
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Speaker 1: they're from like Montreal, and her aunt yes, her auntie
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Speaker 1: is married to a Supreme Court justice. Now the family
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Speaker 1: is so fancy that they are listed in this social register. Now,
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Speaker 1: the social register, it's like I think it's like the
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Speaker 1: Forbes List of People or whatever. But the Social Register
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Speaker 1: is like twice yearly, and it's basically a catalog of
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Speaker 1: all the fancy people. So it's like members of high society.
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Speaker 1: And the higher your rank, the higher you're like index.
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Speaker 1: I think I'm not too up on the Social Regis directly,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter anyway. It's a catalog of fancy people, right,
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Speaker 1: the fancy people catalog who's who of American society. Now, Dorothy,
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Speaker 1: she had a typical education for a girl of her age.
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Speaker 1: She started off with like a governess, and she had tutors.
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Speaker 1: She did go to the Velton School for Girls for
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Speaker 1: a while, and then she goes to the Brinmore College
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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, so the Velton School for Girls that's in
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Speaker 1: New York, and then she goes to Pennsylvania for college.
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Speaker 1: She graduates in nineteen oh five after majoring in literature
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Speaker 1: and language, and Dorothy she wanted to be a writer,
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Speaker 1: something that her family didn't really take seriously, like they
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Speaker 1: used to make fun of her about it, which basically
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Speaker 1: sucked because she lived at home after college, which was
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Speaker 1: normal for someone to do, especially the oldest daughter. So
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Speaker 1: she moves back and she's trying to make a go
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Speaker 1: of writing as a woman in the past. So in
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Speaker 1: nineteen ten, she's twenty five years old and unmarried, which
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not that odd, but she is like
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Speaker 1: a little bit older than your typical person of marrying
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Speaker 1: age because generally the age to get married was like
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Speaker 1: twenty one twenty two. So she's like just a bit more,
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Speaker 1: like just on the side of it. And so Dorothy,
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Speaker 1: a lot of her friends and acquaintances like they were
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Speaker 1: becoming parents, they are becoming spouses, like they were getting
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Speaker 1: married and having kids. In Dorothy, she just wanted to write,
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Speaker 1: you know. And here's the thing. She's fairly she's fairly
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Speaker 1: typically attractive for someone of the era. You know, she's
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Speaker 1: got blue gray eyes, brown hair, she's got the big
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Speaker 1: Gilded Age, the big Gilded age hair. Like she's very
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Speaker 1: much all the time. And she's quite the eligible bachelorette.
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Speaker 1: She's an heiress. She's descended from the Mayflowers, so she's
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Speaker 1: good stock. She's listed in the social register, so people
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Speaker 1: are interested in her. She's just not interested in a
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Speaker 1: lot of what's on off her route there. She's also
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Speaker 1: attractive as well, so like she's got money, she's got
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Speaker 1: the right connections, she's like, she's got all this behind her, right,
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Speaker 1: but she's not really feeling marriage at least for like
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Speaker 1: a lot of her suitors, because she has a lover, right,
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Speaker 1: she has a lover. And I hate it so much because, ugh,
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Speaker 1: you'll see. So George C. Griscomb Junior, a man who
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Speaker 1: I'm going to assume was either very supportive of her
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Speaker 1: literary desires and dreams or he was absolutely amazing in
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Speaker 1: the sack. Because here's the thing, he's balding. He's forty
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Speaker 1: two and he's still at home with his parents instead
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Speaker 1: of making his own way in the world and nineteen
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Speaker 1: ten like he should be, you know, working his way
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Speaker 1: to do his own thing at this point. But George here,
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Speaker 1: he didn't really do anything that he didn't have a job,
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Speaker 1: he didn't have any sort of gumption to go and
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Speaker 1: do things. He was a lazy sod effectively, And so
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Speaker 1: Francis Dorothy's dad he just could not stand him. He
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Speaker 1: couldn't stand lazy people, and he couldn't stand this motherfucker.
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Speaker 1: Also because he was forty two and he was dating
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Speaker 1: a twenty five year old, which is still it's no
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Speaker 1: I don't care what ye wear at is it's fucking weird.
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Speaker 1: I don't care. So yeah, they're together and scandal, right,
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Speaker 1: absolute scandal. And there were rumblings about the two of
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Speaker 1: them getting married at some point, but obviously that doesn't happen.
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Speaker 1: But the two of them did spend and I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: call it a scandalous week together. Okay, So it's September
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Speaker 1: nineteen ten and Dorothy asks her parents if she can
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Speaker 1: go visit an old college friend in Cambridge, and they're like,
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Speaker 1: but of course, go and see this girl. Maybe she'll
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Speaker 1: convince you to get married to, you know, someone with
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Speaker 1: a job or the hobby of some kind. And she's like, great, wonderful,
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Speaker 1: and off she goes. Except she's not being an old
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Speaker 1: college friend. She is going to spend time in Boston
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Speaker 1: with Georgie boy. So she stays in the Hotel Lenox
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Speaker 1: and he stays in the Hotel Essex. Because scandalous as
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Speaker 1: it may be to spend time together. Now, there is
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Speaker 1: no confirmation of either of them being seen in each
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Speaker 1: other's hotels, but I have my suspicions. So like around
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Speaker 1: the town, they were like seen around Boston, around the
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Speaker 1: town or in the city. They're seen around there very close,
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Speaker 1: their canidling. They're very happy, and this is noticed. So
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Speaker 1: during this trip, Dorothy ends up pawning some of her
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Speaker 1: jewelry to cover the cost of something. Here's an idea.
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Speaker 1: What if they like stayed in their like respective hotels,
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Speaker 1: but the money was for a secret third hotel. M
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Speaker 1: m mmm, so they can get down and dirry without
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Speaker 1: anyone noticing. You know what, I like my theory. I
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Speaker 1: like it. So they spend a week together, they have
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Speaker 1: a good time, and then they go back home. So
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Speaker 1: he's back with his parents. They're planning like a grand tour,
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Speaker 1: and by grand tour, I mean they're planning to travel
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Speaker 1: around Europe. And she's back with her family in New York.
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Speaker 1: So it's October now, and Dorothy asks her dad if
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Speaker 1: she can get a flat or sort of an apartment
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Speaker 1: in Greenwich Village. Because Greenwich Villlege it's this bustling scene.
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Speaker 1: It's very bohemian. I say bohemian as if it isn't
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Speaker 1: cultural appropriation, but it's very I'm gonna say Mulon Rouge.
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Speaker 1: If you've seen the movie Mulon Rouge, it's basically I
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Speaker 1: was initially going to say rent but gear but also no.
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Speaker 1: Greenwich Village also became known as the place for homosexuals
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Speaker 1: to live and live their life, probably because it was
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Speaker 1: the only place they were accepted because they're all like freedom, weary,
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Speaker 1: truth and love. Listen, will use any excuse to talk
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Speaker 1: about mulon Rouge, Maybe I will. I love that movie
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Speaker 1: that I love you and McGregor and it and Nicole Kidman.
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Speaker 1: I love Ian McGregor and Nicole Kidman and John Legazamo
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna stop because I love everybody in that movie,
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Speaker 1: including the duke who was an arsehol. But anyway, Dorothy,
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Speaker 1: she has decided that she wants to be a writer,
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Speaker 1: that's what she wants to do, and she wants to
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Speaker 1: move to Greenwich Village. She wants to go there and
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Speaker 1: live with all of these artists and rebels and revolutionaries
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Speaker 1: and dancers and people who wanted to be free. Right,
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Speaker 1: this is where she wanted to go and just unleash
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Speaker 1: her creativity. But her dad was like that debauchery, like
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Speaker 1: he wasn't keen on it at all. He thought it
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Speaker 1: was just dodgy as fuck, and so he didn't want
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Speaker 1: to go in there. She wants to go and be
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Speaker 1: creative and write, and her dad's like, you're gonna start
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Speaker 1: hanging out with socialists and I can't be having that.
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Speaker 1: He basically tells her that he good writer can write anywhere, Like,
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Speaker 1: you don't need to be out shacking up with socialists.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll find just as much creative inspiration in
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Speaker 1: the building in which you have always lived your entire
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Speaker 1: life and surrounded by the same people you have spent
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Speaker 1: your entire life around. Okay, good talk. So Dorothy was
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Speaker 1: not going to be moving to Greenwich Village and being
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Speaker 1: the good girl that she was, she stays home, but
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Speaker 1: she still continues to write, and so she writes a
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Speaker 1: short story called Ponsettia Flames and sends it in to McClure's,
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Speaker 1: which is like this really popular magazine of the time,
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Speaker 1: and yeah, return to sender. So they send it back
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Speaker 1: to her. It's rejected, and obviously rejection isn't easy. But
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Speaker 1: I should also say this is her first short story.
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Speaker 1: And if anybody's ever done anything, the first thing you
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Speaker 1: do of anything is always shit. It always is right,
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Speaker 1: it's terrible, doesn't matter what you've done, the first thing
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Speaker 1: is always bad. Like the flat pancake, you know, like
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Speaker 1: it's it's bad. The first one's always dodgy, Like my
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Speaker 1: first episode I did of this is absolutely shocking. It
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Speaker 1: is so bad. I would go so far as to
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Speaker 1: call it terrible, because again, the first thing you do
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Speaker 1: of anything is shit. Now she gets her rejection and
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Speaker 1: she doesn't take it well, Like it's bad enough to
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Speaker 1: get like your first rejection anyway, but this is like
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Speaker 1: compounded because her family now know that she she wants
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Speaker 1: to be a writer, and they decide to be absolute
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Speaker 1: dicks about it, like they mock and blottle her because
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Speaker 1: her story was rejected, Like, imagine being so shitty. It's like,
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Speaker 1: oh you did this, Imagine actually going out of your
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Speaker 1: way and putting in the effort to actually try and
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Speaker 1: do something. Oh how silly. But yeah, she ends up
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Speaker 1: writing in secret and just not telling them anymore, and
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Speaker 1: she ends up getting like a post office box basically
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Speaker 1: so she could send stories and manuscripts out and get
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Speaker 1: things back without having to deal with you know, her
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Speaker 1: family being our souls. So just before Thanksgiving that year,
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Speaker 1: she ends up sending out her second short story called
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Speaker 1: Lotus Leaves. She likes plants clearly anyway, is around Thanksgiving,
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Speaker 1: and Dorothy decides she's actually going to see the friend
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Speaker 1: that she lied about seeing when she was out in
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Speaker 1: Boston having a rare tear with Georgie Boy. So she
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Speaker 1: goes to see her friend, Theodora Bates up in Washington, Dacy,
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Speaker 1: and she gets there the day before Thanksgiving. Now this
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Speaker 1: is a weird one. So on Thanksgiving Day, like she's
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Speaker 1: in bed, like she decides she wants to stay in bed,
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Speaker 1: which is one round if you've gone to visit your pal.
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Speaker 1: But that's neither here nor there. And an envelope, a
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Speaker 1: really thick black envelope is delivered to Dorothy at Theodora's house. Now,
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Speaker 1: Theodora always said that it was the post Day who
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Speaker 1: delivered it, which is weird because the post Day, the postman,
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Speaker 1: he's not supposed to be working on Thanksgivin and so
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Speaker 1: it's a bit odd to her. But she thinks whatever
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Speaker 1: is delivered that she thinks it's Lotus leaves right, She's
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Speaker 1: like it got rejected again, it is what it is.
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Speaker 1: So she comes in Theodora, she goes into Dorothy, who's
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Speaker 1: lying in bed, and she hands her this envelope and
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Speaker 1: instead of like opening it. She just fucking lugs it
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Speaker 1: across the room. She just chucks it right, and Theodore
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Speaker 1: is like, this is weird, but okay, gonna leave you
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Speaker 1: to it. Clearly you're dealing with something right now. And
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Speaker 1: the next day, the Friday Weird, Dorothy comes downstairs. All
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Speaker 1: her bags are packed and she's like bye, and Theodora
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Speaker 1: is really confused because she's supposed to be staying until Monday,
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Speaker 1: but instead she's already leaving. And Dorothy's like, no, I
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Speaker 1: was always supposed to leave today, were you, Dorothy? Were
25:08
Speaker 1: you always supposed to leave today? Okay? AnyWho, she gets
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Speaker 1: home and her mum is really shocked because she's also
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Speaker 1: convinced that Dorothy wasn't supposed to be home till monday,
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Speaker 1: and here she is three days earlier, and again Dorothy's like, no, no,
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Speaker 1: I meant to come home today. I was always supposed
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Speaker 1: to come home today, something that no one believes. But okay,
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Speaker 1: So Dorothy, she's back home and she heads out to
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Speaker 1: her post office box, her PO box, if you will,
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Speaker 1: So she goes to her box. That sounded weird. So
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Speaker 1: she goes to her box and she gets her mail,
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Speaker 1: and she's got like a bunch of envelopes in there
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Speaker 1: with like foreign stamps on it because Georgie boy is
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Speaker 1: over in Italy with his family. He's like over in Europe,
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Speaker 1: and so she ends up writing him a letter, and
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Speaker 1: its typical sort of flirty, happy charming, right. It does
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Speaker 1: mention like McClure's have sent it back. It's been turned down,
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Speaker 1: and she's like not feeling great about that. And she
26:20
Speaker 1: also says, all I can see ahead is a long
26:26
Speaker 1: road with no turning. Mother will always think an accident
26:30
Speaker 1: has happened. That's fucking creepy. Dark, some might say dark.
26:40
Speaker 1: And this brings us to the very last day that
26:44
Speaker 1: anyone saw Dorothy Arnold. December twelfth, nineteen ten. It was
26:55
Speaker 1: a nice day. Someone's in the sky. I mean it's
26:59
Speaker 1: New York, so it's cold, but it's fairly mild by
27:04
Speaker 1: all accounts. And Dorothy is out on a stroll. I
27:10
Speaker 1: say a stroll. She's it on a hobble because she's
27:13
Speaker 1: wearing a hobble skirt, like she is in like very
27:19
Speaker 1: trendy clothes of the time. So the hobble skirt, I
27:22
Speaker 1: should say, it basically becomes really neat. It's a very
27:26
Speaker 1: long skirt and it becomes really neat around the ankles.
27:29
Speaker 1: So it forces you to take these like little tiny
27:32
Speaker 1: anybody steps because it's more graceful and lady like. And
27:36
Speaker 1: it's also a direct response to the suffragettes, right, it
27:42
Speaker 1: is to feminism. So there's this whole thing about like
27:49
Speaker 1: clothes for m how do I put this? Okay, So
27:58
Speaker 1: doctors thought riding bicycle would turn women into ugly lesbians, okay,
28:05
Speaker 1: and women involved in the suffrage women in general sort
28:10
Speaker 1: of you know, feminism in women's rights or you know,
28:14
Speaker 1: as I like to call them human rights. They they
28:18
Speaker 1: were like designing clothes that had pockets and better movement
28:24
Speaker 1: and sort of female trousers and these sort of outfits,
28:30
Speaker 1: the special bloomers for cycling. And so the hobble skirts
28:35
Speaker 1: it became. It existed as a direct sort of retaliation
28:42
Speaker 1: from that, because bicycles gave women freedom of movement, right
28:48
Speaker 1: without having to rely on your famili's like coach or
28:52
Speaker 1: to require chaperone, because you could travel on your own
28:55
Speaker 1: with a bike anyway. It's the whole story that I'll
28:59
Speaker 1: get into another time. But the hobble skirt basically it
29:06
Speaker 1: limited your movement. It forced you to take these very little,
29:09
Speaker 1: tiny lady steps, and so they were a direct sort
29:13
Speaker 1: of retaliation to the freedom of movement that you'd be
29:17
Speaker 1: having in other clothes as a just as a result
29:20
Speaker 1: of like feminism. And this outfit has a hobble skirt.
29:27
Speaker 1: But this outfit also has like it's very obvious, like
29:35
Speaker 1: you're gonna stand out if you're wearing this, because she's
29:41
Speaker 1: wearing a blue suit. So she's got a blue suit,
29:47
Speaker 1: it has a skirt, the hobble skirt, it's got a coat.
29:52
Speaker 1: She's got this massive fucking hat. It's a huge black hat.
29:59
Speaker 1: It's lined with blue. It's got these big blue roses
30:03
Speaker 1: on it. And she's also got a muff. Because it's
30:07
Speaker 1: December in New York. It's mild, but it's still a
30:10
Speaker 1: bit nippy, so she's keeping her hands toasty in this
30:14
Speaker 1: fox for muff, so she's sticking her hands in the muff.
30:21
Speaker 1: And she's also wearing black silk stockings. She's got blue
30:26
Speaker 1: Lapis Lazi earrings. Oh, and around her neck, she's wearing
30:33
Speaker 1: Irish less because of course she is. And Dorothy, she
30:36
Speaker 1: is dressed super dubber fancy, right, she's dressed super dubber fancy,
30:40
Speaker 1: because she's supposed to be going shopping, because she's supposed
30:45
Speaker 1: to be getting a new evening gown because was it
30:48
Speaker 1: her wee sister Margarine, she's gonna have her coming out
30:51
Speaker 1: party and like four five days later, and so Dorothy
30:56
Speaker 1: obviously needs to get herself a new gown for the occasion.
31:00
Speaker 1: And so she tells her mom she's gone out and
31:02
Speaker 1: she's gonna get and your gown and you're gonna for
31:06
Speaker 1: the party right now. Mary Martha park Arnold, Dorothy's mom.
31:13
Speaker 1: She she wasn't doing great at this point. She wasn't well,
31:17
Speaker 1: and due to her illness, she typically didn't leave the
31:20
Speaker 1: house very much. But on this day she offered to
31:24
Speaker 1: go shopping with Dorothy, and Dorothy's like, no, there's no
31:29
Speaker 1: point dragging you out, Like she didn't see the point
31:31
Speaker 1: or she says to her mom that she didn't see
31:33
Speaker 1: the point of dragging her out in case, you know,
31:37
Speaker 1: it was like a phil's errand like, what is the
31:39
Speaker 1: point of you making all this effort to go out
31:42
Speaker 1: when you're not well and I might not even find
31:45
Speaker 1: address alike? And so she said that if she found
31:48
Speaker 1: something that she liked that was gonna work, she would phone.
31:53
Speaker 1: So it's like eleven o'clock in the morning, and she's
31:56
Speaker 1: leaving the Upper east Side again because the fancy people.
32:02
Speaker 1: So she's near Central Park and she heads downtown. And
32:06
Speaker 1: remember she's very noticeable because she's in her big blue
32:09
Speaker 1: outfit with her massive hat and her big muff, and
32:15
Speaker 1: so she trottles down with like twenty five thirty dollars
32:21
Speaker 1: on her in cash. Well, of course it's cash. It's
32:25
Speaker 1: the past, which is like it's kind of like walking
32:29
Speaker 1: around with like seven hundred eight hundred quid today, Like
32:33
Speaker 1: it's a good chunk of change. So she heads down.
32:37
Speaker 1: She walks about twenty blocks and buys a half pound
32:41
Speaker 1: box of chocolates, and so she's got that and she
32:46
Speaker 1: sticks it in her muff. So she's got the chocolate
32:49
Speaker 1: and she stuck it in her muff. She walks another
32:54
Speaker 1: thirty two blocks and she goes to look at a
32:57
Speaker 1: bookstore and she buys a collection of love stories called
33:03
Speaker 1: Engaged Girl Sketches, and Dorothy's actually spotted outside the bookstore.
33:10
Speaker 1: She ends up meeting a pal and they chat for
33:13
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes. It's like two o'clock at that point.
33:18
Speaker 1: To in the afternoon and they chat for a few
33:20
Speaker 1: minutes because the pal she's supposed to be coming to
33:23
Speaker 1: like the coming out party, and so she's rsvping and
33:29
Speaker 1: instead of going like all the way over to the house,
33:33
Speaker 1: she just hands the RSVP to Dorothy. They have a
33:37
Speaker 1: wee chin wag, they say goodbye, and then and then nothing.
33:47
Speaker 1: Dorothy's just gone. Dorothy Arnold has vanished. So later on
33:59
Speaker 1: that day, when Dorothy doesn't show up for dinner, her
34:03
Speaker 1: family are worried, like they are genuinely concerned because it's
34:10
Speaker 1: not like her. I mean, this is a woman in
34:12
Speaker 1: nineteen ten not coming home for dinner, not letting them
34:17
Speaker 1: know that she's not coming home for dinner. It's not
34:21
Speaker 1: the done thing. It's not something that would have happened.
34:24
Speaker 1: And so they just start calling around all of their friends,
34:29
Speaker 1: or all of her friends, i should say. And as
34:31
Speaker 1: they're calling around and asking if anybody has seen her,
34:36
Speaker 1: they tell each person to not tell anyone else that
34:39
Speaker 1: they phoned around, like, to not tell anybody they made
34:42
Speaker 1: this call because they don't want anybody knowing Dorothy is missing.
34:49
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing. If they think that she's gone
34:52
Speaker 1: missing of her own volition, then she might be up
34:55
Speaker 1: to something scandalous and they don't want that information getting out,
35:01
Speaker 1: or I mean there are other reasons, like maybe they
35:08
Speaker 1: knew more of what was happening perhaps, So it gets
35:13
Speaker 1: to the point the day has dragged on, no Dorothy,
35:16
Speaker 1: and it's after midnight, and one of our friends she calls,
35:20
Speaker 1: and you know, Mary Martha. She answers the phone, and
35:26
Speaker 1: the pals just like, has Dorothy returned home yet? Like
35:29
Speaker 1: it is everything okay? Because she's worried about her friend,
35:34
Speaker 1: and Dorothy's mom just tells her, yes, Dorothy's home. So
35:40
Speaker 1: the pal's like, wonderful, Can I speak to her? I
35:42
Speaker 1: just want to make sure she's okay? And the mom
35:45
Speaker 1: like pauses like an awkward pause, and then just tells
35:54
Speaker 1: her that, like, oh no, she had a headache and
35:55
Speaker 1: went straight to bed. The very next day, Dorothy Arnold
36:03
Speaker 1: is still missing, and the family they don't call a detective,
36:10
Speaker 1: they don't call the police, they don't report her missing
36:14
Speaker 1: in any way. Who they do call, though, is a lawyer.
36:21
Speaker 1: So John, He's got a friend who's also called John.
36:28
Speaker 1: That's John Keith. He is a lawyer, and he kind
36:34
Speaker 1: of starts doing these things that he really shouldn't be
36:39
Speaker 1: involved in, like I don't know, investigating. So, like he
36:44
Speaker 1: goes into Dorothy's room and he starts snooping around and
36:49
Speaker 1: so he's looking at you know, these letters. They've got
36:54
Speaker 1: foreign postmarks on them. There are folders for these, like
37:00
Speaker 1: information about transatlantic steamships, and there's also a bunch of
37:06
Speaker 1: burned papers in the fire. Now hmm, I'm just saying
37:13
Speaker 1: that if someone is writing, like if their whole thing
37:16
Speaker 1: is writing and they're waiting on pages and they don't
37:20
Speaker 1: like what they've written, I don't say it is too
37:23
Speaker 1: suspicious that they're going to be chucking it in the fireplace,
37:26
Speaker 1: because you know, it makes sense the papers are too burned,
37:31
Speaker 1: like to even figure out what they wear. But John
37:36
Speaker 1: Keith is told by Dorothy's brother John that you know,
37:40
Speaker 1: it's probably one of her manuscripts that got rejected and
37:42
Speaker 1: she threw it in the fire. And over the next
37:46
Speaker 1: six weeks, John Keith, who again is a lawyer, not
37:52
Speaker 1: a detective, he is out searching for Dorothy. Like he
37:59
Speaker 1: is in hospitals, he's in jails, he's in morgues trying
38:05
Speaker 1: to get any information on Dorothy. Now it gets to
38:11
Speaker 1: the point that the family ask the Pinkerton Detective Agency
38:16
Speaker 1: for help. Bear in mind, they still have not gone
38:21
Speaker 1: to the police because they're worried about scandal. Like they're
38:27
Speaker 1: worried about scandal, not about you know, they're missing daughter,
38:34
Speaker 1: but scandal. Now, remember John Keith has been searching for
38:39
Speaker 1: six weeks to try and find Dorothy. The Pinkertons have
38:42
Speaker 1: been contacted, but yet at the end of the six weeks,
38:46
Speaker 1: the family finally agree to talk to the police. So
38:52
Speaker 1: they go to the New York City Police Force and
38:55
Speaker 1: the Deputy Police Commissioner. His first thing, he's like, we
38:58
Speaker 1: need to go to the press, like rich white woman
39:01
Speaker 1: is missing, like the press can really help people find her.
39:05
Speaker 1: And Francis Arnold he is just not feeling this. He
39:10
Speaker 1: doesn't want this to happen. It takes two days, like
39:16
Speaker 1: they argue for two days before they come to an
39:20
Speaker 1: agreement to let this happen, because sure, let's delay this longer.
39:25
Speaker 1: That makes loads of sense. Now, when Francis Arnold finally
39:30
Speaker 1: talks to the press on the twenty sixth of January
39:35
Speaker 1: nineteen eleven, so we're now in the following year, Like
39:40
Speaker 1: that's how long she's been gone and they didn't think
39:44
Speaker 1: maybe it would be wise to try and find her
39:47
Speaker 1: before this. But yeah, he talks to the press and
39:53
Speaker 1: got this man. It's weird, right, it's weird because he
40:01
Speaker 1: tells the press that he believes his daughter is dead,
40:08
Speaker 1: but not only that, he has like a theory, Like
40:15
Speaker 1: he has a full blown theory about what happened. So
40:21
Speaker 1: he tells the press, you know, who are supposed to
40:26
Speaker 1: be trying to help find her. Right, that's the whole
40:29
Speaker 1: purpose of spreading the news out and going to the press, right.
40:34
Speaker 1: He tells them that he thinks that she was walking home,
40:38
Speaker 1: like taking a shortcut through Central Park where she was
40:45
Speaker 1: then attacked, strangled, and then her lifeless body was thrown
40:51
Speaker 1: into the reservoir there. And he's like, bad stuff happens,
40:58
Speaker 1: even if there's no reason. And I'm just saying that's
41:02
Speaker 1: oddly specific for a hypothetical. So while he's like doing
41:07
Speaker 1: this junket, he tells the press that Mary Martha, that
41:12
Speaker 1: she's up in New Jersey in a resort recuperating because
41:15
Speaker 1: she's so unwell. Now she is unwell, but she's not
41:21
Speaker 1: in New Jersey. She's in bloody Europe because her and John,
41:28
Speaker 1: they've gone over to Europe. They're going to Florence by
41:32
Speaker 1: ship because they're trying to get to Georgie Boy, Dorothy's lover.
41:38
Speaker 1: They get there and they question him and he is
41:43
Speaker 1: none the wiser. So Dorothy's mum she stays in Europe
41:51
Speaker 1: a few more weeks to see if she can try
41:53
Speaker 1: and find her, Like she's like, maybe she's here, okay. Meanwhile,
41:59
Speaker 1: John jumps on a ship back to the States, and
42:03
Speaker 1: while he's traveling, the journalists find him, or like some
42:08
Speaker 1: journalists find him and they start asking, like what happened
42:13
Speaker 1: to Dorothy? Like, and he's like, what what do you
42:16
Speaker 1: mean Dorothy? Like he straight up pretends that he has
42:19
Speaker 1: no idea that Dorothy's gone missing. He's like, I've been
42:21
Speaker 1: in Europe, how would I have this information? And so
42:28
Speaker 1: the press are like informing him that their dad has
42:32
Speaker 1: done a press conference, and John's like, oh, that's a shame, Okay.
42:40
Speaker 1: So anyway, the police are out in full force. They
42:44
Speaker 1: are going through hospitals like across the country because again,
42:49
Speaker 1: you know, rich white women missing, and so they are
42:54
Speaker 1: like searching everywhere. They're in every morgue, they're in every hospital.
42:58
Speaker 1: They are just scouring through passenger lists of like all
43:05
Speaker 1: of these ships to Europe. In Dorothy's picture, it is
43:10
Speaker 1: sent to like every major city like that they can find,
43:14
Speaker 1: like over in Europe back in the US, like everywhere.
43:19
Speaker 1: They're like, we need to find this missing rich white woman.
43:23
Speaker 1: Help us. So the press. It's interesting because the press
43:29
Speaker 1: they seem to think that Dorothy's gonna like show up
43:32
Speaker 1: at some point because there's no evidence of anything happening
43:35
Speaker 1: to her. There is no signs of fuel play, there's
43:39
Speaker 1: no no body like her clothes haven't been found, there's
43:43
Speaker 1: nothing to suggest that anything happened, and so they're convinced
43:48
Speaker 1: that she's just gonna pop up. Now. Her dad he's
43:53
Speaker 1: telling everyone like consistently Dorothy's dead. Like one day he's
43:58
Speaker 1: outside John Keith's office and he's just weeping in the
44:02
Speaker 1: hallway and he says to the press boys, it is
44:09
Speaker 1: the silence of death. Now it's February at this point,
44:19
Speaker 1: and Georgie Boy, he's put ads in the newspaper, like
44:24
Speaker 1: asking Dorothy to send him a message if she sees them,
44:28
Speaker 1: because he's now searching, like he's trying to find her himself,
44:33
Speaker 1: like he's got his own investigators, like he's looking, and
44:37
Speaker 1: he continues to look for a whole month before giving up.
44:43
Speaker 1: And like with most big cases, you know, information starts
44:46
Speaker 1: coming in, might not be the most accurate information, but
44:49
Speaker 1: it's coming in. So there are stories that she's like
44:53
Speaker 1: drowned in a river, that she's been kidnapped, that she
44:56
Speaker 1: has been stolen in an automobile, like she's in this
45:00
Speaker 1: she's in this hospital, she's woken up on an island
45:03
Speaker 1: with someone else's memories, you know. And in Chicago, this
45:10
Speaker 1: is really weird. Three separate women in Chicago, like they
45:18
Speaker 1: say that they saw Dorothy selling shoe polish. There listen
45:27
Speaker 1: three of them, three of them that mm, now is
45:34
Speaker 1: it a doppelganger situation? Is it Dorothy? Is it Dorothy
45:39
Speaker 1: hiding in Chicago selling shoe polish? Anyway, in Central Park,
45:45
Speaker 1: the lakes get dragged, but there is nobody. And by
45:52
Speaker 1: April that year, you know, there's rumors that Dorothy is
45:56
Speaker 1: in Geneva teaching in a school. And for the next
46:01
Speaker 1: few months, like the Arnolds were seen in Europe. Now
46:06
Speaker 1: they say they weren't searching for Dorothy, but they may
46:11
Speaker 1: have been searching for Dorothy. And so by the time
46:15
Speaker 1: a year passes, her family are just like, well, her
46:22
Speaker 1: dad's like, yeah, she's dead. Her brother's her sister, they're like,
46:26
Speaker 1: she's gone. The mom still has hope, though. The mom
46:29
Speaker 1: is still convinced she's out there somewhere, you know. And
46:37
Speaker 1: they go to the papers anyway, and they say that
46:40
Speaker 1: they think she's dead because like it's the only way
46:45
Speaker 1: that they can explain her disappearance, like why she's been
46:51
Speaker 1: gone and no one's heard of her. And so when
46:57
Speaker 1: Francis puts together his will, there is no provision for Dorothy.
47:02
Speaker 1: He's like, she's dead, there's nothing there, and so he's
47:06
Speaker 1: made a provision for hers, but he's got money set
47:08
Speaker 1: for the other three kids. And by the late nineteen twenties,
47:16
Speaker 1: both Mary, Martha and Francis are dead. They're gone, never
47:24
Speaker 1: knowing exactly what happened to Dorothy, although her dad, Francis,
47:30
Speaker 1: still convinced she was viciously murdered in that specific way
47:37
Speaker 1: during that day. By nineteen thirty five, Dorothy Arnold had
47:42
Speaker 1: been missing for twenty five years, and you know, there
47:47
Speaker 1: were still claims of her being seen, but they started
47:52
Speaker 1: to sort of fizzle out in like for a while
47:57
Speaker 1: for a while, it actually became like as saying that
48:02
Speaker 1: a girl would be gone like Dorothy or Arnold, like
48:05
Speaker 1: if she went missing. Now, when someone goes missing in
48:09
Speaker 1: broad daylight in New York City wearing a very bold
48:14
Speaker 1: blue suit that makes it difficult to you know, walk,
48:20
Speaker 1: there are theories. People have questions. So there's all these
48:27
Speaker 1: theories as to what happened. One of them is that
48:30
Speaker 1: Dorothy slipped on some ice because again it's cold, it's
48:33
Speaker 1: New York, it's winter, and so she loses her memory
48:37
Speaker 1: and goes somewhere else. I mean, clearly she would have
48:42
Speaker 1: eventually changed out of the big blue suit, but like,
48:46
Speaker 1: wouldn't somebody have seen somebody walking around in that attire?
48:53
Speaker 1: I mean, there are stories of that where someone has
48:55
Speaker 1: just had a psychonic break or lost their memory and
49:00
Speaker 1: they've just gone. You know. There's also the theory that
49:05
Speaker 1: Dorothy was pregnant and had gone to a back alley
49:10
Speaker 1: abortionist because you know, it wasn't legal, and died as
49:15
Speaker 1: a result of that, which is interesting. But also if
49:22
Speaker 1: she was pregnant, it would have forced her dad's hand, right,
49:28
Speaker 1: It meant that she would be able to marry George,
49:30
Speaker 1: because it's like, they wouldn't have been able to deal
49:32
Speaker 1: with that kind of scandal, So it would have made
49:35
Speaker 1: sense for her to be more like open about her pregnancy, unless,
49:42
Speaker 1: of course, it was her family who organized the abortion.
49:47
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just throwing an idea out of here.
49:49
Speaker 1: There and another weird twist in the tail. In nineteen fourteen,
49:56
Speaker 1: two Pittsburgh doctors were arrested for performing illegal abortions. One
50:03
Speaker 1: of them tells the da that the other doctor had
50:07
Speaker 1: given Dorothy Arnold an abortion, during which she died on
50:13
Speaker 1: the operating table, after which her body was cremated in
50:18
Speaker 1: one of the furnaces there. And so detectives go and
50:23
Speaker 1: raid the house to look for evidence, and in the
50:26
Speaker 1: basement there are two massive furnaces. Now, was this guy
50:35
Speaker 1: just trying to get off and he was like, oh,
50:38
Speaker 1: let me throw this theory out to try and save
50:42
Speaker 1: my neck. Maybe or maybe he was telling the truth.
50:48
Speaker 1: Two years later, in nineteen sixteen, Edward Glenn Orris, who
50:53
Speaker 1: is this convict He claims that he helped bury a
50:58
Speaker 1: woman's body in the basement of a mansion near West Point,
51:06
Speaker 1: which is then concreted over. So the house gets investigated.
51:12
Speaker 1: They find a house that matches the description. There's an
51:14
Speaker 1: area in the basement that's been clearly dune up before
51:17
Speaker 1: at some point, and the homeowner's like, yeah, gas pipe,
51:22
Speaker 1: And so the detectives are, you know, a likely story,
51:25
Speaker 1: and they start digging up expecting to find Dorothy Arnold's bones,
51:30
Speaker 1: but instead they found a gas pipe. Another theory is
51:35
Speaker 1: that Dorothy was on a steamship and just threw herself
51:39
Speaker 1: into the ocean. So this theory actually comes from something
51:45
Speaker 1: that George's cousin did. So he was like love Lore
51:49
Speaker 1: and upset that he wasn't allowed to marry the woman
51:51
Speaker 1: he loved, and so he just like threw himself overboard.
51:56
Speaker 1: And the Arnold family, well, they just think she was murdered,
52:00
Speaker 1: which again very specific for hypothetical. Anyway, there is like
52:09
Speaker 1: a nice theory. There's like a happy theory, which is
52:13
Speaker 1: that she just said fuck this for Game of Soldiers
52:16
Speaker 1: and got the heck at a dodge that she was
52:18
Speaker 1: just done. She wanted to go live her own life
52:21
Speaker 1: away from everybody, and she just went to go live
52:26
Speaker 1: the life that she wanted to live, her bohemian dream.
52:29
Speaker 1: And her family were just so shocked by the scandal.
52:33
Speaker 1: Of it that they just chose not to acknowledge it
52:36
Speaker 1: and decided that, you know, no, she's dead to me,
52:38
Speaker 1: which means she's dead now if Dorothy had just like
52:42
Speaker 1: gone off to live her big Bohemian dreams, her big
52:47
Speaker 1: mulin rouge dreams as they call it, and her family.
52:51
Speaker 1: The reason they were in Europe is they were like
52:54
Speaker 1: trying to convince her to come home because like maybe
52:56
Speaker 1: she's joined a traveling troup of writers, maybe she's become
52:59
Speaker 1: a barred right and they're trying to convince her and
53:03
Speaker 1: they don't want to get the police involved because they
53:07
Speaker 1: don't want them to know like how far she has fallen,
53:11
Speaker 1: because who knows, they might be removed from the social register.
53:15
Speaker 1: There are so many things that don't make sense here,
53:18
Speaker 1: like why Swaran off to Europe and spend or I
53:22
Speaker 1: think they spent like fifty thousand dollars like quote trying
53:27
Speaker 1: to find her, but they were convinced she was dead,
53:31
Speaker 1: But also they weren't looking for her, but they were,
53:35
Speaker 1: but they weren't. And like they're very specific again for
53:41
Speaker 1: this strangled and dumped in a reservoir. Why would that
53:44
Speaker 1: be your first thought? Why is your first port of
53:48
Speaker 1: call to be, She was strangled and her body was
53:53
Speaker 1: thrown in the reservoir in Central Park, like really, like
54:02
Speaker 1: did something happen to her? Did she like research steamliners
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Speaker 1: and just leave? Did she go live a new life
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Speaker 1: somewhere or was her life taken from her? Like was
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Speaker 1: she just going to live a new life or was
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Speaker 1: she just gone? Will we ever find out? Probably not,
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Speaker 1: but so ends the story of Dorothy Arnold? What did
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Speaker 1: happen to Dorothy Arnold? What do you think? Feel for
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Speaker 1: you to like DM or comment or like if you're
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Speaker 1: on Spotify, you can like answer questions. Also while you're
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Speaker 1: there written if you have five stars, that would be
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Speaker 1: amazing because it helps me like go up the charts
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Speaker 1: and get someone to notice me, and that'd be amazing.
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Speaker 1: Get your tour to It's everybody and yeah, yeah, And
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Speaker 1: with that, it's recommendation time for watching. I'm gonna suggest
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Speaker 1: you watch Sarah hester Ross's special. Okay, it's comedy, it's music,
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Speaker 1: it's amazing, go watch it. She's hilarious. Okay for listening.
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Speaker 1: I am actually gonna recommend because I'm in a mood
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Speaker 1: right now, so I'm thinking Victoria would right, classic comedy
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Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite things ever. It's the Ballad
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Speaker 1: of Barie in Frida. It's fantastic, Okay, it's classic comedy.
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Speaker 1: It's amazing. I love it. And for reading, there's a
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Speaker 1: book called Sluts, The Truth about slut Jaming and What
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Speaker 1: We Can Do to find It by Beth Ashley. It's
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Speaker 1: a really good book. I literally got it today and
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Speaker 1: I think I ate it. So I want to thank
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Speaker 1: you Clare for sending me that. It was so good.
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Speaker 1: It was amazing. So yea with that, I shall bid
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Speaker 1: you good night. Adios au Revoir of Wider Them My
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