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Patriots Unfilered 4/27: Day 3 Draft Show, Matt Groh on Fourth Round Picks, Javon Baker and Layden Robinson Interviews · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 5: All right, welcome to day three of the Patriots Unfiltered
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  Speaker 5: Draft Extravaganza. We're gonna be here from one pm Eastern
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  Speaker 5: to three pm Eastern. It's Mike do So, Evan Lazar,
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  Speaker 5: Paul Parrilla, myself, Matt and the booth and let's get
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  Speaker 5: right to it. While we were away, the Patriots had
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  Speaker 5: two picks in the fourth round, the third and the tenth,
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  Speaker 5: and Mike, you want to go over who they pay?
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, well, I was gonna let Evan do the guard. No,
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  Speaker 6: I want to start with you on Baker because no,
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  Speaker 6: I think it's another It's a good pick. And you know,
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  Speaker 6: he was every guy, a mock draft guy for me,
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  Speaker 6: definitely had some heat around him, you know, coming in
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  Speaker 6: Uh here thought like later in the draft he was
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  Speaker 6: kind of a riser. But you know another guy that
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  Speaker 6: you know, maybe isn't super explosive. He's got some drop issues.
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  Speaker 6: But started at Alabama, has a good pedigree, tough with
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  Speaker 6: the ball in his hands. He's just another guy and
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  Speaker 6: it feels, you know, similar to me like Polk yesterday,
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  Speaker 6: where they're football players. These are, you know, guys who
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  Speaker 6: know how to play the position. And I'm excited. I'm
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  Speaker 6: excited about these two picks. And I know that you know,
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  Speaker 6: some people will will pourn out qualifiers on both of them,
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  Speaker 6: but for me, I think these are two really.
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  Speaker 7: Good wide receiver picks.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I tell us about the guard. I can tell
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  Speaker 8: you about the guard a little bit. I saw him
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  Speaker 8: down at the Senior Bowl. Leyden Robinson. Wide body, powerful
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  Speaker 8: interior offensive lineman, moves the line of scrimmage pretty well.
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  Speaker 8: I am a little bit surprised, obviously a little bit
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  Speaker 8: surprised that they took a guard, but that's besides the point.
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  Speaker 8: I am a little bit surprised that he's not a
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  Speaker 8: zone blocking guard. This is not an athletic you know,
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  Speaker 8: each block, lateral moving interior lineman. This is more in
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  Speaker 8: the MAFI on WHENU mold you know, I don't think
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  Speaker 8: he's as quite as big as those two guys are,
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  Speaker 8: but somebody that is definitely more of known for his
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  Speaker 8: power and play strength and that sort of thing than
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  Speaker 8: he is for being a super athlete. But with Javon Baker,
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  Speaker 8: I mean to me that that's probably the best pick
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  Speaker 8: of the draft outside of Drake May. I mean to
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  Speaker 8: get Javon Baker here in the fourth round is a
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  Speaker 8: really really good savvy pick. And it shows me that
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  Speaker 8: a there's a plan of how to use Drake May's
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  Speaker 8: skill set to the best of his abilities and be
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  Speaker 8: It also shows me that those guys are watching some film,
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  Speaker 8: because you don't draft a receiver that can play like
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  Speaker 8: Baker from UCF that would transferred from Alabama and had
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  Speaker 8: all kind of a journey here without being on it,
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  Speaker 8: without knowing what you're looking at when it comes to
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  Speaker 8: this position. And I think those two guys together, Polk
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  Speaker 8: and Baker, what I would call them is is ball winners.
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  Speaker 8: They're both guys that can win in traffic, that can
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  Speaker 8: win contested catches and have really good catch radiuses. And
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  Speaker 8: if you have a quarterback that's not pinpoint, it's really
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  Speaker 8: quarterback friendly to pair them with two guys that have
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  Speaker 8: really good hands and really good ability to go outside
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  Speaker 8: their frame and catch the football. So one inside kind
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  Speaker 8: of inside outside guy in polk one true ex boundary
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  Speaker 8: receiver and Baker they fit together nicely. There's you see
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  Speaker 8: a lot of what they're going for here. I'm not
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  Speaker 8: trying to tell you that you know it's Randy Moss
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  Speaker 8: and Wes Welker just yet, but these two guys are
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  Speaker 8: complimentary pieces to one another and complimentary to Drake May
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  Speaker 8: as well.
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  Speaker 6: Can I just say one more thing too, like this
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  Speaker 6: was something was bugging me last night where you know,
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  Speaker 6: I was thinking about my reaction to Polkan and I mean,
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  Speaker 6: you can I don't know if I kind of gave
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  Speaker 6: justice to how much I kind of liked him, but
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  Speaker 6: I just don't want to put qualifiers on these guys,
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  Speaker 6: Like I just feel like every time we talk about them,
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  Speaker 6: you feel the necessity to say, well, you ran a
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  Speaker 6: four to five. You know it's not a four. You know,
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  Speaker 6: you point out kind of all the flaws. And it's
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  Speaker 6: like I just getting so upset with like people in
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  Speaker 6: my mentions who can't be happy right now, Like if
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  Speaker 6: you can't be happy right now when you get some
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  Speaker 6: new pieces like and you're instantly just you know, and
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  Speaker 6: there are so many idiots and my mentions calling Drake
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  Speaker 6: May mac Jones or they're calling Jalen Polk is the
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  Speaker 6: next Nikhil Harry, and it's like buy a clue. People
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  Speaker 6: like these are nothing like those players. You're just angry
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  Speaker 6: to be angry, and like, right now, just take a
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  Speaker 6: little bit at a time to say, you know what,
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  Speaker 6: these are young kids living their dream right now, and yeah,
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  Speaker 6: maybe they're not perfect, and but I'm not going to
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  Speaker 6: point out the qualifiers anymore. I'm excited for both these receivers.
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  Speaker 6: They talked about weaponizing the offense, and I think that
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  Speaker 6: that's what they're doing.
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  Speaker 5: They probably like five or six Blue Chippers in this draft,
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  Speaker 5: so everybody after that is you know.
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  Speaker 6: Well in Fred you just never know, and how many
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  Speaker 6: of these people are like, well, the only people that
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  Speaker 6: end up being stars are the people that have a
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  Speaker 6: four to three.
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  Speaker 7: They're the six to two.
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  Speaker 6: They're the perfect size they have, you know, they can
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  Speaker 6: get off the line, they could, you know, like nobody's perfect.
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  Speaker 6: There's so many superstars in this league that were coming
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  Speaker 6: out that were full the only run of four to five.
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  Speaker 6: You know, they have those qualifiers, and I just I
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  Speaker 6: don't really want to hear we're all about that today.
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  Speaker 6: I think those are both players that should have been
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  Speaker 6: on their radar. They were on their radar, they selected them.
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  Speaker 6: So if you're a Patriots fan right now, I think
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  Speaker 6: that you should finally be excited. And I got I
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  Speaker 6: have heard some of those people who have said, look,
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  Speaker 6: I was looking off the ledge the last couple of months,
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  Speaker 6: and now I feel like there's something there. And I mean,
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  Speaker 6: if you can't look at Drake May these two receivers,
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  Speaker 6: you know, I just I feel bad for you because
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  Speaker 6: this is the time where I don't know, maybe they
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  Speaker 6: don't work out and reality smacks us in the face
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  Speaker 6: when we get to training camp. But for right now,
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  Speaker 6: I'm really excited.
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  Speaker 7: About these guys.
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  Speaker 1: Love it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just I'm really excited about that.
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  Speaker 8: Ram I couldn't agree more though. I mean I tried
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  Speaker 8: after they took Polk because I think people here contested
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  Speaker 8: catch and jump balls, and I don't call if he's
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  Speaker 8: a jump ball receiver. I don't think that's the right
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  Speaker 8: way to phrase it with Jalen Polk at all. I
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  Speaker 8: think he's an in traffic receiver because he works the
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  Speaker 8: middle of the field all the time, you know, so
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  Speaker 8: he's always got bodies around him and people around him,
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  Speaker 8: and as talented as Pennix is, you know, Penix is
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  Speaker 8: a really similar quarterback to Drake May where when you're
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  Speaker 8: actually going break down actual ball placement on throws, those
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  Speaker 8: throws can sometimes be a little behind, a little high,
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  Speaker 8: you know, a little off target a little and Polk
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  Speaker 8: is one of those guys that just snatches everything, you.
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  Speaker 6: Know, like laying out like vertical, you know, And that
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  Speaker 6: was you know, I think when they made the pick
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  Speaker 6: last night, he gets so concerned with like I got
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  Speaker 6: to write a thing real quick, I got to run
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  Speaker 6: over there, and yeah, it's a good pick. I like it,
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  Speaker 6: but you know, and then I got home last night
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  Speaker 6: and I went back and I started looking at the stuff,
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  Speaker 6: like I said when I first looked at him, and
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, I really like this kid. Like I just
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  Speaker 6: think he's a football player. He's tough, he finishes runs.
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  Speaker 6: There's a good video of Steve Smith breaking him down.
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  Speaker 6: If Steve Smith likes a receiver, there's a good chance
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  Speaker 6: he's got some.
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  Speaker 5: Twenty eleven Super Bowl against the Giants. He makes that
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  Speaker 5: catch that Welker didn't.
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  Speaker 6: You know, honestly, friend, I mean some of those catches
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  Speaker 6: Jalen Polk.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I.
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  Speaker 6: I like he's he's he's exciting like that. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: just you know, there's so many there's some juice out there,
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  Speaker 6: like there's gonna be some like whoa moments, I think.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I really like Baker too. There's a lot
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  Speaker 7: of things I actually like about Baker's profile, even more
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  Speaker 7: so than Polk. To be honest with you, but I
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  Speaker 7: think everything Mike said I would echo in that you
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  Speaker 7: needed to find some wide receivers and they didn't have
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  Speaker 7: the luxury. We got an ask PFW in the mail
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  Speaker 7: bag today saying, I can't believe they let everybody go
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  Speaker 7: by again without taking wide receivers. And I'm like, they
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  Speaker 7: had to take a quarterback at three? Okay, now I
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  Speaker 7: understand you could have taken Marvin Harrison at three, or
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  Speaker 7: you could have taken Elik Neighbors at three. Fine, Now
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  Speaker 7: you have that stud number one, no questions asked. Even
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  Speaker 7: Mike can identify he's a one, right, But you don't
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  Speaker 7: have a quarterback, So what's the difference? And then you're
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  Speaker 7: gonna be bitching about they let everyone. They let six
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  Speaker 7: quarterbacks get taken in the first round, and they let
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  Speaker 7: the parade go by and they didn't take one. So like,
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  Speaker 7: that's why I would echo Mike's point, like, if you
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  Speaker 7: can't be at least hopeful, you don't want to be happy.
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  Speaker 7: Don't be happy, you know, just be miserable. But if
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  Speaker 7: you can't be hopeful today as a Patriots fan, and say,
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  Speaker 7: they got a new coaching staff in regime in place,
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  Speaker 7: they have a new quarterback that they introduced yesterday. They
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  Speaker 7: have a couple of new wide receivers that they've taken
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  Speaker 7: that you know, we'll see if they If you can't
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  Speaker 7: at least have hope, then maybe you should try to
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  Speaker 7: figure out another another thing.
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  Speaker 5: If you can't have hope, you don't want to have hope.
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  Speaker 7: That's my point. Actively I'm not trying to tell you
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  Speaker 7: that they just drafted to all pros and you know
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  Speaker 7: it's going to be you know, Isaac, but they drafted
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  Speaker 7: two guys that have good skill sets and they have
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  Speaker 7: a new quarterback. If they can't play, they're going to
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  Speaker 7: have to do it again. Like we all get it.
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  Speaker 7: You know, there's no guarantees in the draft. We understand,
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  Speaker 7: you know, there's a lot of you know, Elliott Wolf
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  Speaker 7: keeps saying, we want to be a draft and developing team, right,
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  Speaker 7: draft and development, Well, they're drafting guys, now they have
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  Speaker 7: to develop them. That's that's That's how you get to
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  Speaker 7: be a draft and development team is you have to
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  Speaker 7: do both. And I think that's really where they've fallen
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  Speaker 7: off over the last you know, decade or so. I
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  Speaker 7: think they've drafted some decent players and they haven't really
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  Speaker 7: been able to develop them as much as you might want. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: I would.
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  Speaker 6: I would just say another up point too. You know,
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  Speaker 6: I think Cayden Wallace, you know, there's some questions last
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  Speaker 6: night about you know, I know he said he could
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  Speaker 6: play left tackle, and you know, Olufashanu was there, and
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  Speaker 6: you know, Leyden Robinson. You know, I'm not gonna lie
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  Speaker 6: like guard I was what, you know. But I think
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  Speaker 6: when you look at the entirety of chuk Sa Kora
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  Speaker 6: for Robinson, Wallace, the guys last year, you know, they're
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  Speaker 6: really throwing it all at the wall. And I feel
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  Speaker 6: the same way about the wide receiver position. That competition
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  Speaker 6: is going to be intense. And you know, I don't
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  Speaker 6: know what Vederian low or why they traded for Tyrone Wheatley,
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  Speaker 6: but they're guys that are going to be out there
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  Speaker 6: competing and we'll see how it all kind of all
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  Speaker 6: comes together. They're going to try to build that protection,
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  Speaker 6: to get it in place and to get it right
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  Speaker 6: before it's time to put Drake May in there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, listen, all you know, since the
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  Speaker 5: end of the season, we've been saying they need this,
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  Speaker 5: they need that. Well, they're getting this in that it's
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  Speaker 5: all offense. And the other thing is it tells you
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  Speaker 5: it confirms what we thought. This wide receiver room isn't
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  Speaker 5: that great, you know, and so they just picked up
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  Speaker 5: two wide receivers. We we thought this offensive line isn't
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  Speaker 5: that great, and we knew they need to tackle, but
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  Speaker 5: they just picked up a guard too, and that should
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  Speaker 5: you know, again the old saying, don't look at what
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  Speaker 5: they say, look at what they do. Maybe you know
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  Speaker 5: they're not as enamored with, you know, all these guards
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  Speaker 5: that they have.
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  Speaker 6: You know, if you're one of these guys that has
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  Speaker 6: been you know, kind of a disappointment draft pick or
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  Speaker 6: free agent, and I mean I'll say, you know Cole Strange, uh,
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  Speaker 6: Taekwon Thornton, you know, Juju Smith, Schuster, probably the Big three,
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  Speaker 6: like all those guys are kind of unnoticed right now.
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  Speaker 6: I mean it's it's it's.
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  Speaker 7: Every one of those guys.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I mean, but I mean those guy
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  Speaker 6: Thornton's second round pick, you know, Cole's Rae first round pick.
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  Speaker 6: You know, Juju was kind of the crown jewel the
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  Speaker 6: last offseason.
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  Speaker 7: You know, so all those.
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  Speaker 6: Guys that that were really big pieces. It's like, you know,
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  Speaker 6: what's their mindset? Like round what what's Juju Smith Schuster
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  Speaker 6: thinking right now?
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  Speaker 7: Is he ready to?
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  Speaker 6: Like, Man, I'm gonna have to bust my ass and
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  Speaker 6: get out here and take my game to another level.
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  Speaker 6: Like I don't know if Juju's got that gear still
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  Speaker 6: in him, but yeah, everybody's gonna have to get you now.
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  Speaker 5: Going forward, the Patriots don't have a fifth round pick,
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  Speaker 5: so you know, the sixth and seventh round guys, I'm
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  Speaker 5: sure it's just you know who's on our board. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: there'll be some.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think the position means as much as how
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  Speaker 5: they had these guys valued. Once we get, you know,
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  Speaker 5: into the sixth round. But I think these these players
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  Speaker 5: that they picked rounds one through four, I think are
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  Speaker 5: positions you know, that they felt they needed to upgrade
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  Speaker 5: thousand percent.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, And let's face it, if Drake May is who
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  Speaker 8: we all think he might be, then none of the
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  Speaker 8: other picks in the draft really matter, right. You know,
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  Speaker 8: if Drake May.
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  Speaker 5: He hits, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 8: If he's a franchise quarterback and he's as good as
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  Speaker 8: I think he could be, then whether we took Jalen
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  Speaker 8: Polk over Lad Conky three years from now, I don't
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  Speaker 8: think any of us are really going to be losing
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  Speaker 8: sleep over it, right, And I think that's ultimately what
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  Speaker 8: it's all coming down to, is that Drake May was
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  Speaker 8: not a coin flip decision that was a no brainer easy.
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  Speaker 8: This is what we're doing some of the second round
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  Speaker 8: and third round guys, I would say, we're coin flip
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  Speaker 8: decisions that you know, the Chargers took Lad McConkie, the
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  Speaker 8: Patriots took Jalen polk, that those two guys careers are
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  Speaker 8: going to be compared for the rest of the time.
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  Speaker 8: You know, if Lad McConkie goes on to be Cooper
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  Speaker 8: Cup and Jalen Polk goes on to be nothing, then
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  Speaker 8: this regime is gonna have to face the music on that.
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  Speaker 8: You know that that's That's that's where the draft gets interesting.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's what I like about the draft because
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  Speaker 7: you do have those comps and we would go back,
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  Speaker 7: you know, two years, and it's Taekwon, Thwhnton and then
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  Speaker 7: it's George Pickens, sky Moore, Alec Pearce, and I would
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  Speaker 7: say all three of those guys, even though I would
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  Speaker 7: say doesn't take much, but they've dwarfed, but they've gotten
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  Speaker 7: out of of Taekwon't even those more I think has
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  Speaker 7: been kind of quiet. Yeah, you're gonna have the same
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  Speaker 7: kind of stuff ed night. Mitchell is the guy that
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  Speaker 7: I would watch, and we talked about it at nauseum
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  Speaker 7: last night about the red flags, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 7: trust that the red flags are the reason why everybody
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  Speaker 7: didn't take him until he went to what in the fifties,
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  Speaker 7: I think, to the Colts. So if it turns out
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  Speaker 7: to be it's strictly a situation with his medical issues
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  Speaker 7: and he's having a hard time, that's going to get fixed.
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  Speaker 7: The NFL will fix that. If you know, if he
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  Speaker 7: wants to be fit, if you know, if he wants
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  Speaker 7: if he wants to, you know, figure out how to
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  Speaker 7: be the best he can be, then that's going to
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  Speaker 7: get fixed at the NFL level. That's something that that's
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  Speaker 7: worth the second guess because he definitely had more talent
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  Speaker 7: than the guys that were taking before him. Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, And I would also say with Caden Wallace, the
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  Speaker 8: consensus b is before the draft would tell you that
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  Speaker 8: he was a reach. But I would also mention that
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  Speaker 8: thirteen offensive tackles went before the Patriots pick at sixty eight,
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  Speaker 8: So at some point if they were gonna address offensive
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  Speaker 8: tackle with a premium pick, they had to pick somebody
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  Speaker 8: because there was nobody left by the time he got
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  Speaker 8: to like midway through the third round, So that was
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  Speaker 8: the guy they ended up picking. Are we getting second
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  Speaker 8: guess that too? Maybe a little bit. If he ends
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  Speaker 8: up being a guard or he ends up being a
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  Speaker 8: not really making it in the league, then yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 8: But you know, I've heard that a lot, and I
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  Speaker 8: understand it was a reach based off of the consensus
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  Speaker 8: of the media. Now does that matter that a bunch
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  Speaker 8: of media people had him as the one hundred and
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  Speaker 8: eightieth player in the draft and the Patriots took him
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  Speaker 8: at sixty eight. I guess we'll find out.
• 14:36
  Speaker 6: I mean, wouldn't you say too Evan that that media
• 14:39
  Speaker 6: evaluating these prospects offensive line probably the hardest, like compared
• 14:43
  Speaker 6: at least to wide receiver. It's a lot harder for
• 14:45
  Speaker 6: someone who isn't a trained NFL scout, you know, in
• 14:49
  Speaker 6: some capacity, to identify what a great tackle looks like,
• 14:52
  Speaker 6: in what feet looked like that could play the left
• 14:55
  Speaker 6: side to it, you know, like those like it's easy
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: for you know, amateur scout, no disrespect to us, you know,
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: do it. But aren't you know, officially trained. Like it's
• 15:03
  Speaker 6: easy to look at a wide receiver and be like,
• 15:05
  Speaker 6: this guy can run, he's a great catch it. You know,
• 15:07
  Speaker 6: like that's easy.
• 15:07
  Speaker 7: But to watch a guarter attack.
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: Hard, Well, I don't know if it's harder. I mean
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: I think they look at this guy. I think they
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: look at guards and they say, does he have the size,
• 15:17
  Speaker 5: does he have the technique? If you can do that,
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: then we can coach him.
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well then teams do. But I just like, you know,
• 15:22
  Speaker 6: where do these consensuses come from? And I mean, and
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: I totally agree with Evan, like it's just hard. We'll
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: see how they work out. You've got a lot of guys.
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: I mean, I still I still think there's a chance, Michael,
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: and when you ends up back inside, like I know
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: they said he's he's the right tackle right now, but
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: I just think he said it's better than.
• 15:38
  Speaker 7: So, Paul, who is this guy? Hey, Matt Morrell, are
• 15:40
  Speaker 7: you watching in there? See you in there? All right?
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: I think that's the what's up brother guy on on
• 15:48
  Speaker 7: TikTok if I'm if I'm not, I'm not.
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: On TikTok like you, PAULA.
• 15:52
  Speaker 7: Well, I you know, I do not even well, no,
• 15:55
  Speaker 7: it's illegal. I don't know, right, I don't even have
• 15:58
  Speaker 7: I don't even have the app. But you know, kids
• 16:00
  Speaker 7: are always doing it. What's up? You know, check Tuesday,
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: Check Tuesday. So the guy, Yeah, I think that's the guy.
• 16:06
  Speaker 7: I'm not. I'm not possitible.
• 16:07
  Speaker 6: You got kids that are doing this.
• 16:09
  Speaker 8: The one guy that I that, Yeah, that's the guy,
• 16:13
  Speaker 8: the one guy that I really trust in the draft
• 16:15
  Speaker 8: community from the media side of things with offensive lineman
• 16:17
  Speaker 8: his lands there line because his dad coached offensive lineman
• 16:20
  Speaker 8: in the NFL, and he had a fourth round grade
• 16:23
  Speaker 8: on on Kitten Wallace and I said that, you know,
• 16:26
  Speaker 8: his projection with his grade is that he will be
• 16:29
  Speaker 8: will eventually be an average starter in the NFL.
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: See I'm okay third round. Going to the most Sunshine
• 16:36
  Speaker 7: dot Com comment of all time, I'm okay with a
• 16:39
  Speaker 7: reach in the offensive line, you know, like in the middle,
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: like Cole Strange. Four rounds, five rounds with a first
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: round pick. I'm not okay with that. Yeah, But if
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: you want to tell me he was a fourth round
• 16:49
  Speaker 7: pick or a fifth round pick and you took him
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: in the third round, I'm okay with that. I'm a
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: little less okay with a lot of the stuff about
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: Polk that he could have been you know, fifth, the
• 17:00
  Speaker 7: seventy picks later. But I'm fine because I look at it,
• 17:04
  Speaker 7: and again, this is a Sunshine dot Com take, I
• 17:06
  Speaker 7: admit it, but I'm looking at it as you have
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: needs that you wanted to fill. I thought Chris Gasper
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: made a good point this morning as I was driving in.
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: He talked about Drake May is kind of like that
• 17:17
  Speaker 7: swing for the fence's kind of pick. I mean, everybody
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: knows all the ways that he can be a home run, right, Well,
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: this guy Polk is a little bit safer, like if
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: he really hits, he's probably not going to be a
• 17:30
  Speaker 7: home run, but he's going to hit a lot of
• 17:32
  Speaker 7: doubles and he's going to be a really good player
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: for you. And there's probably a better chance that he
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: maybe he is a singles hitter than he's a bust
• 17:42
  Speaker 7: And you know the kind of couple you know, you know,
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: a big swing for the big talent quarterback with a steady,
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: reliable physical as you guys have described a good football player.
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: I think Baker can be really good. I think Baker
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: has really good skill. I think Polk is really just solid.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:01
  Speaker 7: Now, one of the things that Gash besaid that kind
• 18:03
  Speaker 7: of worried me. I don't know if you guys feel
• 18:04
  Speaker 7: like this. He thought Jade McMillan was better, and maybe
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: Polk's production got bumped up because of all the time
• 18:11
  Speaker 7: that McMillan missed.
• 18:12
  Speaker 8: So McMillan's faster. I don't know if that necessarily he's not.
• 18:15
  Speaker 8: His hands are not as good, but McMillan ran like
• 18:18
  Speaker 8: a four four seven and plays faster on tabe. He's
• 18:21
  Speaker 8: more explosive on film. But I had all these guys,
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: Lad McConkie, Roman, Wilson, Polk, McMillan, even Ricky Piersall who
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: went at the end of the first round. I had
• 18:32
  Speaker 8: them all graded in the same tier. Now, if I
• 18:35
  Speaker 8: was running the Patriots board and they told me you
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: had to pick a receiver at thirty seven, would I
• 18:39
  Speaker 8: have picked Jalen Polk? Probably not, But that was their guy.
• 18:43
  Speaker 8: You know that their guy was Polk. My guy probably
• 18:46
  Speaker 8: would have been somebody different, but they they went with
• 18:49
  Speaker 8: their guy, And I can't say that it was We
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: were worlds apart in terms of how we saw the
• 18:55
  Speaker 8: player like they was a very I saw him as
• 18:57
  Speaker 8: a day too guy that was right in that tier
• 18:59
  Speaker 8: with those other guys that were starting to fly off
• 19:01
  Speaker 8: the board at that point, and they took their swing
• 19:03
  Speaker 8: on their guy, and I can respect that.
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: I just think that me too. Yeah, I just that's
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: kind of how I felt about it. I just think, yeah, yeah,
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: maybe he had a better player, but I.
• 19:14
  Speaker 8: Liked I would have taken Troy Franklin probably, which would
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: have been way too soon, apparently.
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I was a little disappointed that we didn't get
• 19:21
  Speaker 7: my guy, only because I kind of liked him. But
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: Baker and Franklin, those are the two guys that I
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: I started hearing about late that they had in for
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: the thirty visits and I'm glad they got one of
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: those guys.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say, it's just you know, when I
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: went back last night looking a little bit of Polk,
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's it's an apt comparison. I mean, jee,
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: Doug Kidehos went to Washington, he washes Washington kind of
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: had some similar tweets that I did. I was thinking
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: about the last night, and like he plays similar to
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: a Dunsa, Like a Dunsay is just like if someone
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: pumped up Jalen Polk for like another couple inches and
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: another like twenty pounds, which is just like you know,
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: a Dunsay is like a freak. But a lot of
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: the catches that you see Polk make, it's not it
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: exists in a bubble. It's not because you know what
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's going up getting crazy catch and he's
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: holding onto to the ground, he's popping right back up.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: He's just he's one of those guys. The whole vibe
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: I get from him, it's just this guy loves the game.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: You look at like his history, I mean, you know,
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: I know the comp to Jacoby Myers, who was a quarterback.
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: This kid got offered by Illinois after his freshman after
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: he made the team in East Texas, which is we
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: all know what the football is like there, got offered
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: by Illinois after his freshman year. He's a star in
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: seven on seven. So everything that we talk about the
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: evolution of the league and how there's just an explosion
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: of wide receivers like, this kid has been on the
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: forefront of all of that. So it's as much as
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: people say, Jacoby Myers, I just don't love the comp
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: because I feel like this kid is a pure receiver
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: and he plays the game like a receiver, and he
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: runs hard, he finishes plays. So I'm willing to I said,
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: I said earlier, I'm willing to die on the Jalen
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: Polk hill now after the last time, I'm like, I
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: came into milk toast on him. I gotta be honest,
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: it's just, you know, and I don't know what I'm watching.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: I just I've been doing this for a while though.
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: I'm going to go, but I'm going to defend you.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: I don't think you a milk toaster. I thought both
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: of you guys were very high on Polk last night.
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: I hope it came a credit. Get rid of reiterating
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: a lot of the same thing.
• 21:02
  Speaker 8: I think the big thing for a lot of Patriotons
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: and myself included in my gut when they made the pick,
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: was like number two receiver, right, And that's for a
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: team that's been searching for the white whale for five
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: six years now. Of that stud number one receiver, whether
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: it's inside, outside, tight end, whatever, it doesn't make a difference, right,
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: just that number one playmaker, that coverage dictating player. I
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: don't necessarily think Jalen Polk is that. I think Jalen
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: Polk is the possession receiver that's gonna move the chains,
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: it's gonna make the tough catches, it's gonna be the
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: gritty guy in the middle of the field, and is
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: gonna be a high volume guy. But not necessarily in
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: that tier of Jamar Chase, you know, Aj Brown, those
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: types of guys. But as it kind of soaked in
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: a little bit, I was like, well, did I really
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: expect them to get that guy at thirty seven?
• 21:50
  Speaker 9: Right?
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: You know that that's I had maybe those in this draft, right,
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: and maybe Brian Thomas Junior, who went twenty picks before
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: Jalen Polk did. So, did I really think that that
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: was gonna happen and in this draft that they were
• 22:01
  Speaker 8: going to be able to address quarterback and wide receiver.
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: And me come away from that saying, they have Joe
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: Burrow to tomorrow and.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: They pull off some trade for either Samuel or you know, uh,
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: are you now let's go? Let's go?
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: Well, I would say, I mean, in my opinion, I
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: think that the trade that that that's pasted.
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: I don't think that there. Yeah, I'm a little less
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: in on that.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, yeah, they don't have the assets they'd have
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: to go into next year.
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: The other thing with Jacoby Myers, I don't hate the
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: comp because the one thing that I always thought that
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: was really weird about all their misses at receiver were
• 22:35
  Speaker 8: that they had guys like Jacoby Myers who were udfa's
• 22:38
  Speaker 8: or late round picks that were the ones that actually
• 22:41
  Speaker 8: work out, like Pop Douglas right too. And yet in
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: the early rounds when they draft receivers, they draft totally
• 22:48
  Speaker 8: different guys from the ones that work here. You know,
• 22:50
  Speaker 8: they draft Taekwon Thornton, or they drafted Nikhil Harry and
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: you're like, but the shifty, smart, savvy hands catching receiver,
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: Jacoby Myers is the one that works, So why are
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: you drafting the four to two guy that can only
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: run in a straight line. To me, Jalen Polk is
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: like if Jacoby Myers had a second round profile in
• 23:10
  Speaker 8: the draft. You know, if you had like a souped
• 23:12
  Speaker 8: up Jacoby Myers. I thought felt the same way about
• 23:15
  Speaker 8: Jalen McMillan, both Washington guys. So even though he's a
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: better prospect and a better player than Jacoby was coming out,
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: if he's in, you know, a little bit better version
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: of Jacoby Myers, and then that's a really good pick.
• 23:28
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• 23:34
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• 23:39
  Speaker 5: While I like poke at wide receiver, I also got
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: a sinking feeling when we passed on a number one
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: wide receiver in Fred's guy, Lad McConkey. I'm a lifelong
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: Patriots fan who has lived in Savannah for the past
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: sixteen years. I'll admit brock Bauers opened things up for
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: Ladd and also admit to not watching every single Washington
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: game like I have every Georgia game. But Ladd is
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: an insight outside receiver with all the trades who seem
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: always magically open Puka Puka nikua style. My theory on
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: the trade down as is it was a scouting blind
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: spot to try and make impressive fourth round picks while
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: undervaluing picks closer to the top. Please tell me I'm
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: wrong and I'm just suffering from former wide receiver PTSD
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: picks in the Patriots draft.
• 24:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I had, Like I said earlier, I
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: had Lad McConkie and Jalen Polk in the same tier.
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: So I don't view Lad McConkie as a number one receiver.
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: I think Lad McConkie was a number one receiver in
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: color is a high end number two receiver as a
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: ceiling in the same way that Jalen Polk has a
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: ceiling as a high end number two receiver. They're very
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: different players. You know, Lad McConkie was the bursty, explosive technician.
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: Jalen Polk is the tough, gritty hands catcher, runs over
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: the middle, does all the dirty things. That's a stylistic preference.
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: You know, if you if you wanted the guy that
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: created a lot of separation at the top of the
• 25:00
  Speaker 8: then you're into Lad McConkey. The Patriots were into a
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: guy that has a little bit more place, right, a
• 25:04
  Speaker 8: little bit more grit to him and toughness.
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's and then going back to last night,
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: we were kind of talking about the contested catch guys
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: and you know, you're like, I, this is what this
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: is what I prefer, you know, like this is just stylistically,
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: I'd rather than like a six to four guy who's
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: just gonna go down the field that like, I want
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: guys with the ball in their hands that finish plays,
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: that are tough, that can make the tough catches, and.
• 25:24
  Speaker 7: I would probably split it in the middle. And I
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: understand exactly what you're talking about, Mike, And to go
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: back to what the what Evan was talking about a
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: little while ago, there's a reason. Yeah, like there's a
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: lot of those guys with that profile that have worked
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: for New England and you're like, well, why don't they
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: just take more because you don't need to take those
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: guys early in the draft because you can get them,
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: you know when you get them. Now, what gets lost
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: sometimes in New England is it worked with Welker, who
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: they acquired. It worked when they drafted Julian Edelman in
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: the seventh round. They made the transition and it worked.
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: I would say largely with Jacoby Myers as an undrafted guy.
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: There's a dozen I could rattle off for you that
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: didn't work. Oh yeah, but that's where you get those
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: guys because you don't have to draft them. You don't
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: have to draft him with high picks. But if you want,
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: as Evan used it perfectly as an example, if you
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: want a guy who does everything like Jamar Chase, you
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: gotta pay for that. You gotta draft him high. And like,
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: so I understand Mike's point, like I don't want the
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: cit I don't want Devonte Parker. Yeah, okay, yeah, DeVante
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: Parker is a guy who this full disclosure, I absolutely
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: loved Devontae Parker coming out of Louisville. I think he
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: went with like the fourteenth pick.
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: He wasn't more explosive to Miami.
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: I loved him. I wanted him so bad. I was
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: pissed when Miami got him. I thought he was pretty
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: good for Miami and then he just was always hurt
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: and I was like, this guy's no good like, I
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: don't want a six or four guy who can't separate
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: and only wins jump balls and only makes contestic catches.
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: He makes plenty of plays, and every once in a
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: while he has great games. He had a great game
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: against the Patriots to knock him out of the bye week,
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: you know, back in twenty nineteen, remember that one. But
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: he's not consistent enough to be a fourteenth overall pick
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: of the draft.
• 27:12
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: The other thing I just drew a quick fight just
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: that I like about these two receivers is that they're
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: both like six to one and change to ten. I mean, they're.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: Athletic, not that slight.
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: I got good size, and they're not big guys, but
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: they got good thickness, good size. I like the dimensions
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: of both of them.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Wan in Mexico says, with the wide receiver picks and
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: with pop and Born, are they trying to be similar
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: to the Packers' philosophy with a bunch of good wide
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: receivers without a true number one.
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: I don't think that that's a philosophy. I don't think
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: that's the actual goal. I just think that's the way
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: the board fell for them. After taking the quarterback.
• 27:47
  Speaker 11: They tried to get Calvin Ridley, remember, yeah, you know, Yeah,
• 27:50
  Speaker 11: but I do think that Polk Baker, I think those
• 27:54
  Speaker 11: guys are very very Green Bayy, just in terms of
• 27:57
  Speaker 11: their skill sets and their profiles and things.
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: There's a guy that I was thinking of last night,
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: and I think I saw Greg Bodard tweet about it,
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: Jordy Nelson. Yeah, is there any do you have any
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: Jordy Nelson because I don't really look at Polk as
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: Jordy Nelson, like I saw Greg write that last night,
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: and I've always thought of Jordy Nelson as kind.
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: Of explosive on the other Yeah.
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I like Watson, who you talked about, not that
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: kind of speed, but.
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I like the comps that I've heard. You know,
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: Tyler Boyd better Jacobe Myers, you know, if you want
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: to go ceiling ceiling ceiling Keenan Allen Right, Like, I
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: likes the.
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: Tyler Boyd last night that Phil Perry had and that
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: was from a league executive that he supposedly got there from. Yeah,
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: I liked that because I I Tyler Boyd's another guy
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: had a crush on coming out of Pit. I thought
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: he was a perfect Belichick kind of guy.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: I think that's part of why I was a little
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: bit frustrated last night, is that I said this before.
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: Comparison is the thief of joy, Like, you know, like
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: the second these guys are drafted, you got to put
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: him in a pre existing box. You got to put
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: an X Y Z one two three on him, you know,
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: and then you just instantly put him into a box.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: And it's like, I just watch him. I don't have
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: to put him into a box. I like the way
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: that this two places.
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: You know, it's funny, exciting to happen, and I I understand,
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: like I love the cops, and I understand why they
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: do it makes it easy, right, Like this is what
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: you understand what I'm saying, Yeah, Tyler Boyd. So now
• 29:22
  Speaker 7: everybody says, oh, I know Tyler Boyd. The problem with
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: it is you might think Tyler Boyd is really good.
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: Someone else might think Tyler Boyd, that's it.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: Right, that's that, and that's the ceiling right there of
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: what he's going to.
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: I think Tyler Boyd's had a really good NFL career.
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: I look at that as a real compliment, you know.
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: And then someone says high end, like Evan just did
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: Keenan Allen. I think Keenanell. Now, I know someone that
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: we work with who rarely wears socks, who thinks Keenan
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: Allen sucks.
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: It's bad.
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: He thinks he stinks. So like it's all in the beholder.
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: So like the cops, I get why they do them,
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: but sometimes they don't what you want them to do.
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: Yeah. I just think in terms of where he wins
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: on the field, the route that he runs, and I
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: know you get this. I'm just explaining it, you know.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: I think that's those are the types of guys that
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: he's not gonna run by people at four five two.
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: He's just not gonna be a burner that's gonna run
• 30:17
  Speaker 8: by people. But I think the thing that I keep
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: coming back to with both these guys is that they
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: drafted a quarterback who is not Tom Brady and Drew
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: Brees with accuracy like this is not a guy that's
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: gonna fit it through a keyhole. He's gonna throw it
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: generally in the right area of where the ball is
• 30:31
  Speaker 8: supposed to go. And Polk and Baker both have size,
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: they both have length, and they both have hands that
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: they can go ahead and if Drake May is a
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: little bit off, is the throws a little bit low,
• 30:41
  Speaker 8: then these guys are gonna go and get the ball.
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah. Now, if Polk doesn't work, if he
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: doesn't work, is there any like Aaron Dobson kind of
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: vibe with Polk?
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: I really saw Aaron Dobson to me in this draft
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: was key on Coleman. Coleman had that one catch against
• 31:02
  Speaker 8: who was it? I think it was Miami, But I'm
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: blanking where he has one catch where he goes above
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: his head like there's one handed catch and pulls it
• 31:09
  Speaker 8: down and his teammates have like their hands on their
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: heads like holy crap. And that Aaron Dobson catch reminds me.
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: That big though I think Dousin seems stiff to me,
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: I don't.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: I just don't see that with Polk. They seem like
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: different players just the way they play the game. I
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: I said, if he doesn't.
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: Work, well, if he doesn't work, I don't really see
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: him being stiff. And you know, I think if he
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: doesn't work, yeah, I mean.
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: That that's if he doesn't work. The comp that I
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: would use if he doesn't work is Juju smith Suster
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: last year. Now there you go, right, I would see
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: that more. That's that's still okay. He can't run away
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: from anybody, ju you.
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: Know Belichick, you know he if a quarterback, they have
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: to be able to get open and catch the ball.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: You know, guys that don't work generally, it's one of
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: those two things. They can't get open and when they
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: get open, they're they're dropping the balls.
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: Whether they physically can't get open mentally can't understand how
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: to get open. Yeah, you know, And I think that
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: is one of the things with Polk that mentally it
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: seems like he understands, you know, how how it kind
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: of all works. But like I said, I think both
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: these guys are just you know, they're football players. They're
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: they're gonna be fun to watch. And that's I think
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: that's the biggest thing for me is is you know,
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: just after three days, you've got you finally got something
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: to be interested in about the Patriots offense. When we
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: get out you know, to OTAs in a couple of weeks,
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: I mean camp like yeah, I like, I mean it's
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: the most fun thing to watch when we go out
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: to see a new young quarterback and two young receivers
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: out there during OTAs.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: I'm excited, Joe writes in some talk about comparing Poke
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: to Puka Parker, and now Paul is saying he heard
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: Jordan Nelson, what about Bobby Trees?
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: I don't know who that is? Robert Okay, it's like
• 32:50
  Speaker 8: pauld tell me who that is? Bobby from the nineteen.
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: Secon didn't scout Bobby Trees.
• 32:55
  Speaker 8: I thought it was like an I thought it was
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: somebody from like the nineteen eighties. I'm not gonna lie.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: I guess I could see that bit.
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: I don't necessarily see the Puka Nicula comparisons because Pooka
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: is so fast with the ball in his hands.
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah. I don't think we're saying on Twitter last night
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: that no one thought that Pooka Nicole was a number one,
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: number one type receiver. Sorry, I don't mean torupt you,
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: even though he's not the number one receiver for the
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: Rams either.
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: Heck of a quote here from Javon Baker. Uh, come
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: to the home stadium and bring your popcorn. That's all
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: I can tell you. Bring your popcorn. I make people
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: in wheelchairs stand up. Love that, Love that, Yeah, Yeah,
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: We're gonna need you to walk that one back.
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: When did he When did did he say that? Just
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: now I'm a little less high on him than I was.
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: The wheelchair thing is not. I don't love that.
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: No, I know, I know what Evan's talking about. The
• 33:45
  Speaker 7: wide receiver with swaggers never a bad thing as so
• 33:49
  Speaker 7: long as he can play.
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: Got some swagger. He got swagger like us, uh, getting
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: ready to work blue at the swagger.
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: I like deuces energy, I love juices, and especially because
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: I have nothing exactly right, it's picking us all up
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: right now.
• 34:03
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure what I dropping right into the show.
• 34:05
  Speaker 7: I'm not gonna lie.
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, uh, you know, I think I got
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: a credit Twitter because it's like you read these comments
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: and you're like, are people insane?
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: Like what are you even watching?
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: Like how could you make that compent? I get I
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: get it. You're gonna hate everything they do, no matter what,
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: and you're just an angry Patriots fan who like hate
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: roots for the team now, But like, if you can't
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: be happy right, where are you gonna be happy? Like
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: once the game start, it's all reality and then then
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: it's like, well, actually, Jayleen Pulp stinks you know, like
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: then you start to find out the truth. But at
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: this point we can live in fantasy land where everybody
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: works out and.
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: It point like I'm not telling you, like, drop everything
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: you got, man and make make let's start making plans
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: for the for the playoff. Like I'm just telling you
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: you should have some hope. You drafted a quarterback, you
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: drafted a couple of receivers, you have new guys in place.
• 34:53
  Speaker 7: Why don't you hope it's gonna change for the better? Yeah,
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: you know, and then if it doesn't, okay, you get
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: disappint I'm like, you can't just like, so, well, I
• 35:01
  Speaker 7: don't want to get my hopes up, because then they're
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: just gonna stink. You know, I'm not then that way,
• 35:05
  Speaker 7: Like you're gonna be disappointed either way.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: So the comp that I had used and I just
• 35:11
  Speaker 8: wanted to double check with what I had written for
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: Baker is Romeo Dobbs in Green Bay. And that twenty
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: twenty two Packer draft, they drafted Christian Watson in the
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: second round, and then they drafted Romeo Dobbs in the
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: fourth round. They have and then all of a sudden,
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: now Jordan loves got weapons, you know, he's got receivers
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: around him. You have to think that that was kind
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: of the model for this draft with Elliott Wolf. No,
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: is that second and fourth round receivers. Take two of
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: these guys, one inside, one outside, just like we kind
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: of did in Green Bay. And you know, they did it.
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: And they kind of did it the opposite. They went
• 35:47
  Speaker 7: with the guy, you know, the outside guy in two
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: and the the more versatile guy for right, and then
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: the tight ends the next year.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: The new thing with receivers. And compared to the spider chart,
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: have you seen that, I'm not draftable?
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have the spider Shark, but he
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: got and Darth skeptical rites in.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Ye.
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: I like that name.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: He says, what's the difference between Poke and Baker? That
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: makes Baker a wide receiver one? And Poke a wide
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: receiver too? They have both similar measurables basically the same height, weight,
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: and forty times. I don't think either one's a wide receiver.
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: Did anybody say that Bakers?
• 36:21
  Speaker 12: Now?
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: I think this goes back to what Deuce says, though,
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: people associate X receiver with one with one right and
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: that because he's outside right.
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: So like just out of curiosity your wide receive.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: Your wide receiver one is your best wide receiver now.
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: There, unless it's your tight end.
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: There are actually well like Kansas City's wide receiver one
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: is Travis Kel.
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: Well that was when I continued our argument from last
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: night in my head as I was trying to go.
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: To sleep, and a lot of ones.
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: So then, you know, and like we were talking about
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: twenty ten with Moss right like, so he falls off
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: you know to your point. Well, you know, and then
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: then kind of Gronk became the one, right, I mean,
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: that's you know, how it evolved.
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: But there are a lot of ones right now that
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: aren't necessarily you know, boundary receives that that are just
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: on the outside of that. I mean, like Tyreek Hill
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: is Miami's one.
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's not an ex well and you'd think that,
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: like and you'd like to be able to move that
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: guy around. You don't want him just you know, going
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: onto the outside lining up on the line of scrimmage
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: every single snap. You want to play with him and
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: be able to you know, get a better batch.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: Up for me. A wide receiver one is you need,
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: you need a play, and who's your go to guy
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: for me?
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: It's where does the coverage go?
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, well even you know, I thought, I mean, look,
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: let's let's we got to call it out like Bill,
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: Bill Belichick's been awesome, like with some of the analysis,
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: the stories that have been popping up. I mean, I
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: think it's it's my favorite Bill Belichick other than you know,
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: when he's executing a great gamecome but storytime, Bill is wonderful.
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: Told the whole story about Randy Moss. We've heard that
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: before the seventeenth time for the seventeenth time. But but
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: again Belichick on the on the board that too. I mean,
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: anytime he's doing real football. But but he was talking
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: about telling Moss, you know, we're gonna move you into
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: the slot, and he's like, move me into the slot.
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: But it's like those kind of things that you know,
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: illustrate how you can move those guys around.
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: Even though Randy.
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: Moss is probably the purest of pure number one X
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: receivers out there.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: Let's see Terrence writes in look at aman Ross Saint
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: Brown fourth round pick, combine numbers. I guess he's not
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: a high end wide receiver and he just signed a
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: top five contracts.
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: Maybe maybe another number one receiver who's not an.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: X Maybe the Lions shouldn't have picked him either. My
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: fellow Patriots fans need to chill out and let's see
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: how they develop. I see the vision. The development comes next.
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: Believe in Wolf in Mayo.
• 38:25
  Speaker 8: I would not use on Mon Ross Saint Brown as
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: a common for polk, but Mon Ross Saint Brown is explosive.
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: No, but what I'm saying I think with it's the
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: same thing with Pooka and Akua. I don't think there's
• 38:38
  Speaker 7: the same kind of player. I don't think necessarily think
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: the email and I might be speaking for the emailer incorrectly,
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: but I don't think he's necessarily comparing the skill set
• 38:45
  Speaker 7: as much as mid round. You know, mid round picks
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: that weren't necessarily thought of as being good enough that
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: have certainly proven to be good enough.
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: That's what I never understood why I'm on Ross Saint
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: Brown fell he had he had great college college table.
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: That sounds sounds like your kid going down to Florida
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: for college. I'm TJ Tampa.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: Now, Dad will call TJ Tampa.
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: I did not get it with I didn't see it
• 39:10
  Speaker 8: with TJ Tampa.
• 39:12
  Speaker 7: I didn't take him. I was laughing a little while ago.
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: A punter got taken. Now, if there was out, if
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: there was a punter in college football that you would
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: be interested in, who maybe probably got more work than
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: any other punter in the history of punting, who would
• 39:27
  Speaker 7: it be but College Iowa? They had about three first
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: time and that rough, tough, big ten, you know, like
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: the Iowa punter is a guy that I'm interested in
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: because I don't know he probably punted two hundred and
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: eleven times last.
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: Well, how but he's like a running back. He's got
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: too many reps on his leg already, right, and he's
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: gonna have.
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: A short his best days of behind him. Too many carries, sore.
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: Leg, he's got a dead leg. Now, it's just you
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: can't do it.
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: It's oh, he's an Aussie too. Tory Taylor, fourth round pick.
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: He went to it's not bears.
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: We're just flying through them now, huh. This is the
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: point in the draft where you kind.
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: Of did the Chiefs take him?
• 40:08
  Speaker 8: Chiefs are good at this, Chiefs, the Chiefs and who
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: is I mean the Ravens have had are always good
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: at this too.
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: The Eagles, it's annoying.
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: Eight five five pasts five hundred. Let's go to the
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: ace to get outline. Chris is in California? What's up, Chris? Chris?
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: Chris is gone? How about Christian in LA? What's up Christian?
• 40:37
  Speaker 10: Right? Hey you guys, Happy Saturday to you.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:42
  Speaker 13: Hey, So for me, the draft is going well. I
• 40:44
  Speaker 13: wasn't so much as Drake may guy, and now I'm
• 40:47
  Speaker 13: on board. I love Jalen Polk. Yes, I had the
• 40:50
  Speaker 13: same of my raw Saint Brown comparison. I love the
• 40:54
  Speaker 13: tackles and the guards. We have their big bodies, they
• 40:56
  Speaker 13: can move a little bit. They'll give us the least
• 40:59
  Speaker 13: a starting point for what we what we need.
• 41:02
  Speaker 10: I like this guy Baker.
• 41:03
  Speaker 13: He's got a little bit of that diva that pops
• 41:05
  Speaker 13: that dog.
• 41:06
  Speaker 10: As they say, I would not mind.
• 41:09
  Speaker 13: If for the last two picks, if we took a
• 41:11
  Speaker 13: running back and then a cornerback. And then my question
• 41:14
  Speaker 13: for you guys is this, If everyone hits the way
• 41:18
  Speaker 13: we think, let's say sixty percent of their potential, how
• 41:22
  Speaker 13: many wins do you think it gets us for this
• 41:24
  Speaker 13: next year? And second question, if they do hit, does
• 41:27
  Speaker 13: it accelerate Drake starting you know position?
• 41:32
  Speaker 10: Does that mean Drake to start this year? If all
• 41:35
  Speaker 10: the guys that we got to fill the holes sort
• 41:37
  Speaker 10: of hit, not completely, but just sort of all right,
• 41:39
  Speaker 10: thank you guys.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: Well, if Drake only sort of hits, we're in trouble.
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: No, I would I would say, I'd say, you're looking
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: at five wins. But no, I don't think that these
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: guys have anything to do with when you play Drake May.
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: The only one that should have anything to do with
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: that is Drake May.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but if Drake May only lives up to sixty
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: percent of his potential, we're in trouble.
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: Well that's yeah, I agree with you, Like I'm not
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: taking them. Yeah, you're right, you're absolutely right. That's what
• 42:03
  Speaker 7: he said. If they all hit sixty percent, that's not
• 42:05
  Speaker 7: a good thing. But I would say, like if you,
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: if you, you have to evaluate Drake May on his
• 42:13
  Speaker 7: own and you have to decide when you think he's ready.
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: Like that has nothing to do with Oh my god,
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: do you see how good Polk is doing? And Baker,
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: we got to get Drake May in there. If he's
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: not ready, he's not.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: Ready, yep. All right, So we're gonna have Matt Grow
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: joining us in a little bit. So as soon as
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: he's ready, and behind the mic, we'll we'll we'll go
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: to him. Uh So we had Elliott Wolf on day one, yesterday,
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: we had Cam Williams. Today, we're going to have Matt
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: grow So good representation of the war room. So I assume,
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: you know, we'll ask him about the last two picks
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: that the Patriots had.
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'll be uh be good to ask
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: him about you know, these guys, and you know, I
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: think it's well, I mean, I'll save it for my
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: question for him, but I just think you can you
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: can see the plan. I mean, obviously they needed offense,
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: and I am a little bit of a defense guy,
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: so I'm a little sad right now. Maybe we could
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: get but you know, I think that they've they've stocked up,
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: you know, a number of positions that they need to improve.
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: You know, probably the two most glaring or three most
• 43:11
  Speaker 6: glaring positions. You know, Drake May we'll see what happens
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: in terms of his development. But the other ones they're
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: they're putting guys in there and we'll see how the
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: competition plays out. I'm sure that's what they're hoping for.
• 43:23
  Speaker 8: So much about it is that sometimes yeah, there's something
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: to be said for just stacking talent and not caring
• 43:30
  Speaker 8: about positions. But I also think what what they're doing
• 43:33
  Speaker 8: is you can see where this guy's going to play
• 43:35
  Speaker 8: and where that guy's going to play, and all these
• 43:38
  Speaker 8: different pieces offensively where there are complimentary skill sets to
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: each other, let alone just the fact that they are
• 43:44
  Speaker 8: positions off.
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: That was going to be my question.
• 43:46
  Speaker 8: And it's kind of like building that they've they've you
• 43:49
  Speaker 8: can see where they're going in terms of building the offense,
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: whereas sometimes I feel like in recent years they make
• 43:55
  Speaker 8: a pick and you're like, Okay, but where's that guy
• 43:57
  Speaker 8: going to get on the field? You know, And I'm
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: not trying to kill them for past draft, but you know,
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: like Mapho or even Keon White and you're like, Okay,
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: I can see what they see in the player, but
• 44:08
  Speaker 8: Marty Mapho is kind of parried on the depth chart.
• 44:10
  Speaker 8: Isn't he behind six box safe?
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: And That's what I was going to say. Why you know,
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: I keep using the word hope. Why I'm so much
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: happier about what's going on right now than I was
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: at this time last year because not because of necessarily
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: the players or how good they're gonna end up being
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: I didn't know then, I don't know now, but you
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: can see the idea of what they're doing. Last year,
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: everybody thought the same thing people thought this year, except
• 44:33
  Speaker 7: for the quarterback, and they went corner, which was in need,
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: and then defensive lineman, hybrid safety, linebacker. That's still I mean,
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: I know I got yelled at by someone last year.
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: I still don't understand what the idea was with Mapoo,
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: and so this year it's like, well, they need wide receivers,
• 44:53
  Speaker 7: they got two of them. They need tackle they got that,
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: you know, they drafted one. Yeah, I mean the quarterback,
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: like Evan said earlier, that was really you know, that
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: was there. That's a no brainer. But I understand what
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: the thought process was.
• 45:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I love what I think Elliott said it to
• 45:09
  Speaker 8: us on night one that days two and three that's
• 45:12
  Speaker 8: really where the scouts go to work, right like the
• 45:14
  Speaker 8: first day taking the Drake. Maybe not to take anything
• 45:17
  Speaker 8: away from anybody in the war room, but Paul could
• 45:19
  Speaker 8: have taken Drake May with the third overall pick in
• 45:21
  Speaker 8: the draft, could could.
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: You know, by the way, taking Drake May att two
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: as well.
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah, Like at this point of the draft is where
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: like I said earlier, there are some options, and they're
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: all kind of in clustered together, and you're gonna pick
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: one guy, and the team next to you is going
• 45:37
  Speaker 8: to pick the other. And you hope that your guys
• 45:38
  Speaker 8: the better guy in the long run, and that those
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: are where the really good evaluators separate themselves. And I
• 45:45
  Speaker 8: think you know last year's draft with MAPU, My guess
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: is is that Bill Belichick wasn't going to pay Kyle Duggart.
• 45:52
  Speaker 8: So yeah, and so that that was the next Kyle Duggart.
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: But I don't think that there was any I don't
• 45:58
  Speaker 7: think there were any indications that they could allow Kyle
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: Dougle to leave based on anything MAPU had done. Fair enough,
• 46:05
  Speaker 7: you know what I mean.
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: But if Bill was still here, do you think Kyle
• 46:07
  Speaker 8: doug I think that's what the thought process.
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: I think that's a good point. If if had lit
• 46:14
  Speaker 5: it up, then maybe they would have let him.
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: Go, right, Yeah, that's probably good. So, uh, your Detroit Lions,
• 46:21
  Speaker 7: who I know how you get all hot and bothered
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: about what the Lions are doing. Keep the pants on.
• 46:29
  Speaker 7: The Lions are good at this good football play.
• 46:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, he can play running back if he
• 46:34
  Speaker 8: can play running back and can play special teams so
• 46:36
  Speaker 8: he can play safety.
• 46:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he felt like he was mine when you asked
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: your your little pole there about who's.
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: Going to be a pain? Why my little pole always
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: has to get involved in these conversations.
• 46:46
  Speaker 6: We love your little pool.
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: He's he's day three Cooper de jen.
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: Who I know. I know who Paul loves by the
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: personal safety. Can't get enough of them, get.
• 46:56
  Speaker 8: Them hot and bothered. Jayden Higgs a good player to
• 47:00
  Speaker 8: the Chiefs again, man, I mean, come on, like, what
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: are we doing?
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: Like Evan like liked every player draft, Jayden Hicks was
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: the Chiefs.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: He dropped a little.
• 47:10
  Speaker 8: Bit, did drop a little bit?
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 47:12
  Speaker 8: I thought he was the best safety in the draft.
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: And I know I'm not alone. I think Dane Brugler
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: had him as the best safety in the draft.
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: Jayden Hicks was thirty nine in the Beast.
• 47:20
  Speaker 8: That's why I said the Chiefs are good at this.
• 47:22
  Speaker 8: It's annoying that xavior worthy. Jayden Hicks gired Wiley.
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: You think he had to walk around the block with
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: a baseball bat? Yeah, damn today yesterday.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: You think Jayden Hicks, like you know, had five other
• 47:36
  Speaker 7: save six other safeties taken so far, and he's like
• 47:40
  Speaker 7: got a list now he's on the share.
• 47:41
  Speaker 8: Well, he's he's a he wasn't a. He's a pure
• 47:45
  Speaker 8: box safety. He's Kyle Duggar. You know, he's very similar
• 47:47
  Speaker 8: player to Kyle Duggar. So not exactly. Oh, they got
• 47:51
  Speaker 8: King the Chiefs just they got Kingsley to you just
• 47:54
  Speaker 8: remembered that grand is unbelievable.
• 47:58
  Speaker 7: Don't you remember when they took They took Kingsley last
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: night and I read them homesweek like Beach.
• 48:03
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean like you get the Billach the bills
• 48:07
  Speaker 8: game gave Xavier Worthy and I will never forgive them
• 48:12
  Speaker 8: for that.
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: Like, what are you doing?
• 48:14
  Speaker 8: Unbelievable.
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: Let's get to some of the phone calls while we
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: wait for Matt gro to join us. John's in South Beach.
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: What's up John?
• 48:24
  Speaker 14: Everyone? So I was a little.
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna put you on hold. Hold on, John, we
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: got macro, Matt. Can you hear us? Hey, Matt, thanks
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: for taking the time. I know you guys are busy.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: I'm here with Mike do So, Evan Lazarre, Paul Parol, myself.
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: Tell us a little about these two fellows that you
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: took in the fourth round.
• 48:50
  Speaker 15: Laden Robinson out of Texas A and M. You know,
• 48:54
  Speaker 15: really excited to add him at some you know, the
• 48:57
  Speaker 15: interior play in this league. When you can get a
• 49:00
  Speaker 15: good player, you know, there's there's a lot to be
• 49:03
  Speaker 15: said for that, especially here in the fourth round. Three
• 49:07
  Speaker 15: year starter at A and M. Coach at Dasio a
• 49:11
  Speaker 15: name that you know a lot of a lot of
• 49:12
  Speaker 15: Boston people are are probably familiar with coaching the O
• 49:16
  Speaker 15: line down there, so you know what you're gonna get with.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: With coach A. Dazioh.
• 49:19
  Speaker 15: You know, tough, tough minded, you know, tough physical guys
• 49:23
  Speaker 15: on the field.
• 49:24
  Speaker 10: So you know, able to.
• 49:26
  Speaker 15: Speak to him and some other people down there at
• 49:28
  Speaker 15: A and M and you know, really saying the praises
• 49:31
  Speaker 15: of Leyden and then you just you know, you put
• 49:33
  Speaker 15: the film on and you can see the power that
• 49:35
  Speaker 15: this young man has and we're able to spend some
• 49:38
  Speaker 15: time with him before Pro Day and you know, get
• 49:41
  Speaker 15: him up here and and so there's there's a high
• 49:43
  Speaker 15: comfort level with Leyden and what you can bring to
• 49:47
  Speaker 15: the table for us.
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: Yep, that just along those lines, you know, along the
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: offensive line, you took Wallace last night. You know, I'm
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: looking at my little unofficial death trap and it looks
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: like eight tackles, you know, a bunch of interior guys,
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: including the three that you guys select did last year.
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: It feels like the offensive line overall is going to
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: be a spot that that's kind of righte for some competition.
• 50:07
  Speaker 15: Yeah, that's what we wanted all spots in this competition.
• 50:10
  Speaker 15: And and that's how you get better is having guys
• 50:13
  Speaker 15: compete against each other each day and then you know,
• 50:15
  Speaker 15: be able to go out there and compete their best
• 50:17
  Speaker 15: on Sundays. And uh, there's there's not many worse feelings, uh,
• 50:22
  Speaker 15: you know than being tackle poor. You know, so I
• 50:27
  Speaker 15: don't want to say we're we're tackle rich. You know,
• 50:29
  Speaker 15: these guys are going to have to go out there
• 50:31
  Speaker 15: and prove themselves and develop and really excited about you
• 50:34
  Speaker 15: know what coach Peters can do with a lot of
• 50:36
  Speaker 15: these guys. But again to be able to add you know,
• 50:40
  Speaker 15: a talented experienced player. This guy started a ton of
• 50:44
  Speaker 15: games and then Big Ten know what we're getting from
• 50:47
  Speaker 15: from coach Franklin, you know at Penn State and and
• 50:51
  Speaker 15: you know, all those games in the Big Ten you know,
• 50:54
  Speaker 15: you're getting this as well prepared of a player at
• 50:56
  Speaker 15: that position as you can hope to get.
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: You picked up Javon Baker, you had Poke already selected.
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: How do these two receivers complement each other?
• 51:06
  Speaker 15: Yeah, so you know Javon's played a little bit of acts,
• 51:08
  Speaker 15: played a little bit of slot. You know, this is
• 51:11
  Speaker 15: a kid who went to Alabama, you know, so they've
• 51:15
  Speaker 15: got a pretty good knack of finding wide receivers out
• 51:18
  Speaker 15: of high school. They don't just offer anybody to come
• 51:22
  Speaker 15: play that position there. Obviously, Coach Saban and his staff
• 51:26
  Speaker 15: and everything that they've done, they know what they're looking for.
• 51:28
  Speaker 15: So didn't work out for Javon at Alabama hasn't worked
• 51:32
  Speaker 15: out for a few guys at Alabama.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: You know, you can come up with.
• 51:34
  Speaker 15: Some pretty pretty good name for players who started there
• 51:37
  Speaker 15: and and go on, I won't list the names off.
• 51:40
  Speaker 10: You know who they are.
• 51:42
  Speaker 15: So you know Javon and then you know remember being
• 51:45
  Speaker 15: down there his first game at UCF a couple of
• 51:48
  Speaker 15: years ago saying, WHOA, who's this guy? Uh, so you
• 51:50
  Speaker 15: could see the talent right away and to get him
• 51:54
  Speaker 15: with with Jalen with JP and start working here with
• 51:58
  Speaker 15: Drake to try and build chemistry. It doesn't just happen overnight.
• 52:03
  Speaker 15: And now you've got a couple of guys who who
• 52:06
  Speaker 15: can grow with Drake. You know, you're not talking about
• 52:09
  Speaker 15: a free agent, you know who. You know, those deals
• 52:12
  Speaker 15: aren't aren't always four years now, and now we've got
• 52:15
  Speaker 15: guys who can grow for four years and and that's
• 52:19
  Speaker 15: that's really nice to to be able to establish that
• 52:21
  Speaker 15: kind of.
• 52:21
  Speaker 8: Relationship Matt with Jalen and Javon. The other thing that
• 52:25
  Speaker 8: we've been talking about a lot is you know how
• 52:28
  Speaker 8: tough they are and on contested catches and winning those
• 52:31
  Speaker 8: passes outside their catch ratses are are pretty large as well.
• 52:36
  Speaker 8: How important was that for you guys to have two
• 52:38
  Speaker 8: guys that that can go out there and be really
• 52:40
  Speaker 8: good hands catchers for Drake?
• 52:43
  Speaker 15: Absolutely the contested catch you know, that's that's what this
• 52:46
  Speaker 15: league is. If you can't make some of those, then
• 52:49
  Speaker 15: then it's going to be tough. And you want guys
• 52:52
  Speaker 15: who can can be open even even when they're covered.
• 52:55
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 52:55
  Speaker 15: And to have guys like JP and and Javon to
• 52:59
  Speaker 15: be able to go up and snatch the ball out
• 53:01
  Speaker 15: of the air.
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 53:02
  Speaker 15: You know that's that's an important.
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: Trait to have, h I know, you have to get
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: back to work, but quickly, any curve balls that you've seen,
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: you know, throughout the draft, things that you didn't expect
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: to happen, that kind of you know, said wow, that
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: that was not on our radar.
• 53:17
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I'll leave those comments inside the draft room. The
• 53:22
  Speaker 15: eyebrows that go up inside the draft draft room, I'll
• 53:25
  Speaker 15: leave those in there.
• 53:27
  Speaker 7: So no, no, it's a good question.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: It's a good question.
• 53:29
  Speaker 7: But do you feel bored.
• 53:31
  Speaker 15: I'm not going to give myself in trouble on that
• 53:34
  Speaker 15: on somebody else's draft.
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: Do you feel bored today?
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: Matt?
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: You had nine picks last year on day three? Are
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: you a little bit more relaxed than with a few
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: less picks.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: When you start off with a bang here?
• 53:43
  Speaker 15: You know, when we were at one o three kind
• 53:46
  Speaker 15: of had an idea as to how that was going
• 53:48
  Speaker 15: to fall. But it comes quick at you and then
• 53:51
  Speaker 15: you know, with the accelerated clock at at five minutes,
• 53:53
  Speaker 15: it's it's moving. Yeah, you know right now, you wish
• 53:56
  Speaker 15: it was moving a little bit faster. But you know,
• 53:59
  Speaker 15: there's always deals that we're fielding and we're reaching out on,
• 54:02
  Speaker 15: so rarely are we just sitting there toddling our thumbs saying, okay,
• 54:08
  Speaker 15: we got forty five more picks, which is about probably
• 54:12
  Speaker 15: where we are right now until we pick so right,
• 54:15
  Speaker 15: who knows, by the time I get back in there,
• 54:18
  Speaker 15: we might be on the clock.
• 54:19
  Speaker 7: Okay, so Macro just packaging those two sixth round picks.
• 54:22
  Speaker 7: We're going to get into the fifth round, so you
• 54:25
  Speaker 7: don't go anywhere, everybody, We're gonna be on the clock momentary.
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: All right, Well, well, Matt, we'll let you get back
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: in there, but thank you for joining us. We appreciate
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: your time.
• 54:33
  Speaker 8: Thanks, Matt, appreciate it.
• 54:35
  Speaker 12: Thanks for the covering, Matt.
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: All right, Matt grow coming to us from the war
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: room with some analysis on the fourth round picks.
• 54:42
  Speaker 7: And the fifth round is underway by the way.
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I like that.
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: Appreciate the coverage was, you know, that's all we do.
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: We covered the team, So thank you. Yeah, yeah, appreciate
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: your appreciation.
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 54:50
  Speaker 8: I was Laden Robinson was a senior Bowl guy, and
• 54:55
  Speaker 8: so I was down there and Macro was leading the
• 54:58
  Speaker 8: Patriots contingent on there because Elliott was up here with
• 55:01
  Speaker 8: Girodd filling out the coaching staff at that time. So
• 55:04
  Speaker 8: it was Macro, it was Cam Williams who we talked
• 55:06
  Speaker 8: to yesterday, and those guys that were really running the
• 55:09
  Speaker 8: show in Mobile. So obviously they must have come back
• 55:11
  Speaker 8: from Mobile and said, hey, this card from A and
• 55:13
  Speaker 8: M is pretty good and here we are.
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: All right, we'll go back to John and South Beach.
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: Thanks for holding on, John.
• 55:21
  Speaker 7: John, what's up?
• 55:26
  Speaker 14: Okay, this is not what I was going to call about.
• 55:28
  Speaker 14: But is there like this weird phenomenon of Bill guys
• 55:32
  Speaker 14: who kind of their voices sound like Bill over time?
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: I think so, Yeah, that's good.
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: I think Steve, Steve Belichick, Nick I thought sounded a
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: lot like Bill.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: A little bit.
• 55:44
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I was a little disappointed, slash skeptical of how
• 55:51
  Speaker 14: the off season has gone this far. But you know,
• 55:54
  Speaker 14: call me and Mark, call me. You know that's that
• 55:58
  Speaker 14: total Phill was Tom or whatever. I'm not like a
• 56:01
  Speaker 14: draft person at all, but after these first few picks,
• 56:03
  Speaker 14: I'm kind of feeling a little opeful, and I'm wondering,
• 56:07
  Speaker 14: here's my question, are we ushering in an era of
• 56:11
  Speaker 14: voteful Paul to combat the great White snark?
• 56:15
  Speaker 7: Well, they are kind of one and the same. Now,
• 56:18
  Speaker 7: I'll never lose the snark, but I might be snarky
• 56:21
  Speaker 7: on the side of hope. Now you know to the
• 56:23
  Speaker 7: people that are going to you know, call in and
• 56:26
  Speaker 7: just dump on every pick. Like I talked about that
• 56:29
  Speaker 7: that mail bag question we got that that reads as follows,
• 56:33
  Speaker 7: like it appears the Patriots watch the parago by a
• 56:35
  Speaker 7: wide receiver and tackle and then reached for leftovers at
• 56:38
  Speaker 7: those positions instead of drafting better players. They took those
• 56:41
  Speaker 7: two positions at the very next picks they had, like
• 56:45
  Speaker 7: they went they took one it's in the second round
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: or one of the third were they supposed to do? YEA,
• 56:52
  Speaker 7: And I just say to you, so that's my.
• 56:54
  Speaker 14: Snark, But what I'm hearing is snark is the medium.
• 57:00
  Speaker 7: Yes, No, I just I do feel and I'm not
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: trying to just put on an act. I do feel
• 57:04
  Speaker 7: like there should be some hope on this weekend. This
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: is you have to hope more more so than anything
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: about Drake may but you you should have some hope.
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: I would just say to John's point, like I don't
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: think you're wrong to be a little bit disappointed with
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: how free he went, like like we all were. We
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: all were disappointed. But I think the lesson though, and
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: that you know what we were kind of trying to
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: preach at the time is that this is how you
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: get better. You hit on these draft picks, you retain
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: these this is this is where the real stuff is.
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: It's not you know, making the big free agency splashes. Yes,
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: it would have been nice. It would have probably added
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: something that all of us would have been excited about,
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: so that that's fair. But you know, this is where
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: the reality is.
• 57:40
  Speaker 7: This is you had gotten Calvin Ridley, maybe you wouldn't
• 57:44
  Speaker 7: have had to use the second round pick on a
• 57:46
  Speaker 7: wide receiver and you could have gotten a player that
• 57:49
  Speaker 7: could have you know what I mean, another player that
• 57:51
  Speaker 7: could have played right away. That's how exactly exactly.
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: I mean, these these teams that are consistently in the
• 57:58
  Speaker 5: mix every year they draft well.
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: And then even every time Kansas City, tex.
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: And Baltimore and then they bring in the pen again.
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: I mean, look at what the forty nine ers did,
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: and then they bring in McCaffrey and they're right, that's it,
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: you know, right.
• 58:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah, so this this Javon Baker or something. I guess,
• 58:15
  Speaker 7: oh yeah, let's yeah. You know, the mentality after having
• 58:20
  Speaker 7: to wait till day three, kill whoever's on the other
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: side of the of me. That's really my mentality. That's it. Alex.
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  Speaker 8: Alex barthways in NFL inside NFL Insider, and he just
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  Speaker 8: texted me Javon Baker is a legit psycho.
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  Speaker 7: I love it. I'm all in.
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  Speaker 8: That's what he said.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, those guys worry me, little flair. We'll gonna lie
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  Speaker 7: those guys.
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  Speaker 8: You gotta have a little dog in you. I think
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  Speaker 8: both these guys have a little dog in them both.
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  Speaker 6: And they might be making a commercial for the a
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  Speaker 6: DA sometime not too in the distant future.
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  Speaker 5: But he's all right, Uh, Melvin's in Tennessee. What's up, Melvin?
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  Speaker 7: Hey, Hey Melvin?
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  Speaker 10: Right?
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  Speaker 16: Uh, I guess them. I'm just glad everything makes sense
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  Speaker 16: this time. You never know with receivers. Obviously, hopefully I'm
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  Speaker 16: praying that one of them works out, but you know,
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  Speaker 16: there's also the opportunity that neither one of them work out.
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  Speaker 16: Maybe both of them work out. But if we just
• 59:18
  Speaker 16: were to get a ride receiver two right now, there's
• 59:20
  Speaker 16: so many different ways you can get rid receiver one
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  Speaker 16: obso with drafting, but you know, ride receiver will cry
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  Speaker 16: every year on some money or whatever, just like that,
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  Speaker 16: so you can address that that waits. You know, you
• 59:32
  Speaker 16: can do it different ways, but we can get something
• 59:35
  Speaker 16: like that and everything like that works out. With the offense,
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  Speaker 16: I think the defense was okay last year. Is just
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  Speaker 16: so bad on offense. So I'm just glad to be
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  Speaker 16: that we at least have coaching staff and something like
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  Speaker 16: that that everything is at least making sense. We're not
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  Speaker 16: drafting of running back in the second round or something
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  Speaker 16: like that that we'll just throw you for a loop.
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  Speaker 16: So I'm happy with what they picked. So I'm just
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  Speaker 16: you know, it's exciting part of the year. So hopeful
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  Speaker 16: everything like that will work out and then we'll just
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  Speaker 16: see what happens from there.
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  Speaker 12: But so far, so good with me.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that thank you.
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  Speaker 8: Over the course even of Belichick's tenure, I feel like
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  Speaker 8: the drafts where everything even if you don't agree with
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  Speaker 8: each individual player necessarily or maybe you liked one guy
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  Speaker 8: over another, when the positions and where they were picked
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  Speaker 8: made sense. It seemed like those drafts for the most part,
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  Speaker 8: were better than the ones where we get cold strange
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  Speaker 8: in the first round. You know, like when you have
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  Speaker 8: those drafts that are even twenty one even it didn't
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  Speaker 8: necessarily work out in the long run, but it was
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  Speaker 8: Mac Barmore Remandre like right where they were supposed to
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  Speaker 8: be drafted, and it was it looked at least for
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  Speaker 8: a couple of years like it was a pretty solid haul.
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  Speaker 2: It did.
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  Speaker 5: And other than Mac, I mean, Remandre was good and is.
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  Speaker 6: Hopefully going to get extended.
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  Speaker 12: By guys. I hey, thank you, thank you guys for
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  Speaker 12: the magnificent job you guys are doing in the draft.
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  Speaker 12: I just have a little sit of confusion in regards
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  Speaker 12: to why are we taking a Guard when we have
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  Speaker 12: a need for a tight end and there are other
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  Speaker 12: needs that haven't been filled yet. Totally, I was expecting
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  Speaker 12: more aggression in terms of moving up and driving Crafty
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  Speaker 12: more higher end talent. So I am somewhat optimistic, but
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  Speaker 12: I also feel like we have to compete with some
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  Speaker 12: really good teams, and I'm saying this is more of
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  Speaker 12: but a long term improvement as opposed to trying to
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  Speaker 12: win right away.
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  Speaker 8: I do know about that last part, but I totally
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  Speaker 8: understand where you're coming from with the Guard.
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  Speaker 7: When this one this one position.
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  Speaker 8: When Laden Robinson was taken, I have to admit I
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  Speaker 8: was like, oh God, here we go again. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: they saved me with Javon Baker a couple of picks later.
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  Speaker 8: But it has to be you know, we're talking I
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  Speaker 8: don't know if we were on here when we were
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  Speaker 8: talking about this, but the guards that they've taken over
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  Speaker 8: the last two years, they've taken four guards in the
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  Speaker 8: top one fifty now five with Robinson the four of
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  Speaker 8: the last two drafts Cold Strange City. So Jake andrews
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  Speaker 8: Antonio Maffi, this tells me that they don't love those guys.
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  Speaker 5: Or not all of them. Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, And because that's why he should be said depth
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  Speaker 8: wise at that position, and you're not apparent.
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  Speaker 7: It's the Fred and Paul Tenant of watching what this
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  Speaker 7: Patriots team does, watch what they do. And I think
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  Speaker 7: it's easy to sit there and say, and you know,
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  Speaker 7: Melon sack Town just said, you know, like like tight end.
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  Speaker 7: Well I look at you know, they they have tight
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  Speaker 7: ends on the roster, and they have guards on the roster,
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  Speaker 7: and they drafted a guard. What is that telling you
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  Speaker 7: than the guard?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 7: And I also don't want to get too lost in
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  Speaker 7: what's happening in the fourth and fifth rounds of drafts.
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  Speaker 7: You're not addressing needs when you pick out like Javon Baker,
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  Speaker 7: God love them. Seems like a character, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 7: we have, you know, an infusion of you know, sort
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  Speaker 7: of swag in the locker room evidently. But I'm not
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  Speaker 7: gonna just sit there and say, well, you know, fourth
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  Speaker 7: round pick, he plug him in day one, he's gonna starting.
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  Speaker 7: Who's gonna catch ninety eight passes for us next year?
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  Speaker 7: Probably not gonna happen. They haven't necessarily addressed wide receiver.
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  Speaker 7: They've selected a couple of wide receivers. Hopefully they can
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  Speaker 7: play like tight end Hunter Henry Austin Hooper, h will Coxcox,
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  Speaker 7: Mitchell Wilcox. Yeah. I don't really think that's all that
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  Speaker 7: different than Cole Strange.
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  Speaker 8: Tonio Maffi, Yeah, I mean Hunter Henry is better than
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  Speaker 8: all of those guys at guard. But other than that,
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  Speaker 8: it's not different. But I do think in this draft
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  Speaker 8: the tight end class wasn't particularly strong. It was Bratt
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  Speaker 8: Bowers and then a big, big big get.
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  Speaker 7: But a lot of people and you guys included, and listen,
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  Speaker 7: I don't follow it as close asly as you guys do.
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  Speaker 7: Like I just didn't view tight end. Is this like,
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  Speaker 7: who they gonna get a tight end? Who they are?
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  Speaker 7: You know? Except for Claire t end They're not a
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  Speaker 7: huge not a huge thing for me.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: And if they want to throw like a later round
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  Speaker 8: dart at like Tanner mcclaran hand from Arizona or Jean
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  Speaker 8: Bell from Florida State, those guys are still ailable and
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  Speaker 8: I would think maybe in the sixth round they might
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  Speaker 8: still be there, both those guys. So you know, those
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  Speaker 8: are options of guys that I had decent you know, Okay,
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  Speaker 8: this guy could be a backup, you know, interesting kind
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  Speaker 8: of chess peace type player.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that was for me, the tight ends I was
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  Speaker 21: It's just it's just mentality is just kill whoever whoever
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  Speaker 5: Uh?
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  Speaker 21: Just come to the home stadium and bring out popcorn.
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  Speaker 22: Hey, Javon, congrats on getting drafted. What are your first
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  Speaker 21: So Drake May probably really, what I think, in my opinion,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 21: the best quarterback in this job. So and we connect again,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 21: it's gonna be it's gonna be a good connection.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 22: What do you remember about him from those throng sessions.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 21: Uh, competitive and trying to get the ball every like
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 21: what the spots that I asked him to, he'll put
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 21: it there, So he'll be just competitive, competitive quarterback and
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 21: that's what I like in the quarterback and somebody that
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 21: could push me and I push him.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 23: Thank you, Next question, Nick quite Thanks step Hey, congratulations.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: Javon.
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  Speaker 22: Just wanted to ask you your impressions of just joining
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 22: the New England Patriots organization and when you think of
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 22: the Patriots, what do.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 21: You think of honestly, like just just being a part
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 21: of that organization. I know it's winning mentality organization, just
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 21: like just like how it was at BEMA, just winning
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 21: and like no but everybody liked winning and this it
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 21: wouldn't be a better opportunity and a better place to
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 21: go to than this place.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: So I just can't wait's.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: Questions, So if you will, Hi, Javon, congratulations. I was
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: just curious.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 24: You know, you mentioned that you had throwing sessions with
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 24: Drake may Uh did you reach out to him at
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 24: all after he was drafted? And second, did have you
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 24: heard anything from him or from you know, have you
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 24: reached out to him since being drafted? Now that you
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 24: guys are on the same team.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 21: I didn't reach out to him when he got drafted,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 21: But as soon as I got drafted, he reached out
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 21: to me and.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Were just telling the congression, let's get this get to work.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 21: And JP, who's working out this whole this whole off season,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 21: this whole little process. So we got to connec going
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 21: on to so just them, us three alone and just
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 21: gonna just bring back through, bring.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: Back and winning mentality that everybody like.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: Boston you talk about that connection.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 24: Do you feel like this was like a very good
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 24: place for you to land with the two players that
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 24: you literally saying that about.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 21: Yeah, like I said earlier, it's a perfect person. Yeah,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 21: Like I said earlier, it's the perfect opportunity. Yeah, I
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 21: just I just can't wait to put on their uniform.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: Question mark Daniel and.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 25: Run not congratulations. Based off your background and you know,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 25: transferring UCF, how much would you say there's a chip
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 25: on your shoulder and how much does this stuff that
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 25: happened to you in the past, how much does that
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 25: drive you?
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 26: Uh?
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 21: Honestly, like it's gonna always be a toop on my
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 21: shoulder no matter what. I'm self driven. So I know,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 21: I know how it feel to be behind somebody. I
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 21: know how to feel to be bottom of the death try.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 21: So I'm always have a chip on my shoulder with artists.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: And what are you hoping to prove with the Patriots?
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 7: Prove them?
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Prove them everything, Like prove them what I can do.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: Prove them I could. I could do everything as a receiver.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 21: I could do anything to win, like just pull them
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 21: that I'm a team player and I want to prove
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 21: to the team that I'm one of them guys.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: So that's what i want to do. Thank you, Congruts.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: Question Kegan Steve who.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: Congratulations. I was just wondering.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 22: You talked to Steve Smith before the draft a little
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 22: bit about your game, and you said, once the ball's
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 22: in your hand, you can change the game.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 21: What is it about what you do that can change
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 21: my mentality? I'm a I'm a I'm a receiver. I
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 21: don't I don't know nothing but receiving the ball. You
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 21: don't care if the ball throwing out of bounds in
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 21: the sideline. I'm going to receive the ball. So at
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 21: the end of the day, that right there, my mentality
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 21: is just just different from any any other receiver.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: I can get down and dirty. I can do anything.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 21: So that right there, my mentality alone, can can just
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 21: do it everything like as a receiver, just just my
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 21: mentality and honestly, next question.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: We'll do two more questions here. First one starting from Taylor.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 23: Kyles iveon congratulations man, welcome to New England. Before the draft,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 23: Elliot Wolf mentioned the team didn't really have a true
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 23: ex that guy could line up on the back side
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 23: and winning one on one coverage. Seemed like that was
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 23: a place you had a lot of success in college.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 23: So do you feel like you can be that guy.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: For this offense?
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 21: Yes, sir, I could be anything, honestly, whatever coach Mayo
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 21: want me to be, I could be just that right there.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 21: I could be ex Wow, your h you no matter
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 21: to me? And what allowed you to thrive in those
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 21: one on one matchups? Would you say, uh, honestly, my mentality,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 21: Mama and Taldy went. I line up against that corner
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 21: and I know it's game over.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: So welcome to New England for sure.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: Question from Doug Kyde.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 9: On I saw that you were on Cam Newton seven
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 9: on seven team. What was your relationship like with Cam
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 9: Newton and has ever spoken to you about his time
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 9: in New England.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, Mama.
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  Speaker 21: Actually, Cam Newton is like a big brother relationship. Before
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 21: the draft, we were just talking and telling me. He
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 21: was just telling me just just to keep my head
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 21: down and keep working, you know. And I talked to
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 21: him about Boston. I was just telling him because when
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 21: I was when I was there on a visit, I
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 21: was talking to a lot of people about Cam and
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 21: it was just a lot of good things saying about him,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 21: and I was just telling him, laying the message and
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 21: stuff like that.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: We were just laughing about it. But that's really it awesome.
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  Speaker 9: Thank you and congrats again.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 5: All right, that's the initial Baker interesting experience. Yeah, that's
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 5: exactly the.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 7: Experience.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: A lot of confidence, a lot of confidence. If you
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 5: want a confident guy, I think you just got him.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah, And I do like the confidence. I think there's
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 7: a swag that goes with that position in cornerback. You know,
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 7: receivers corners, they go one on one a lot. But yeah,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 7: he's he'll get humbled a little bit. That's an experience
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 7: right there. That guy was He was a lot. Yeah,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 7: that was a lot.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 5: I mean I can see a guy like that being
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: at Alabama and like this isn't I want to play
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 5: and getting out of there and going to a place
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: where you know he can get on the field all
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 5: the time. And you know the numbers show that once
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 5: he did. Ah, you know, he produced. But yeah, I
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 5: mean I think to be a wide receiver or a
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: cornerback in this league, you have to have that type
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: of confidence.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Fred quote here just reading through from the beast.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 6: You know, he struggled to see meaningful snaps in Alabama's
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 6: offense and he said, I just needed to touch the ball.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 6: So that's about right now.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 8: It's one of those schools that is a feeder of
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 8: wide receivers. So there's a lot of guys you know
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 8: that are are transfer in transfer out of these big schools.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 8: And you know, a guy like Jamison Williams transferred into
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 8: Alabama and from our house date, it was a star
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 8: at Alabama, you know, So it goes both ways that
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 8: these guys just sometimes coaching staffs have favorites and it's
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 8: not you and you have to move on.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but he you know, he definitely believes in himself.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: There's no doubt about it. So that was that was interesting,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 5: apparently doing it from his car. Yeah, probably the quietest
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 5: place right now he could find to do it.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 6: So many podcasts are recorded these days, it's nice and
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 6: contained space with the sound.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so that was interesting. And then we had also
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 5: the guard Yeah, Leaden Robinsonadon Robinson. We have that queued up.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: Matt Morrell. Yeah, let's let's might as well knock these off.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: The first question from Mike Grease, Hi, Laiden, how you
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: doing doing?
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: Doing great?
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: Start us out laden with just what is what has
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: this day been like for you? What is it like
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: when you hear your name called? You know, when they
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: call you.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 26: I mean, it's been great just having a blessing with
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 26: just being here with me and my family and everybody
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 26: that's been close to me my whole life, and just
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 26: having that feeling of the call. It was great and
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 26: it was a blessing in disguise, and it could have
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 26: been from a better place leading them.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: Can you tell us where you are and who's with
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: you today?
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 26: So I'm in Galveston, Texas at this beach house out here,
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 26: and it's pretty nice. It's amazing, you know, Wendy, and
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 26: it's fishing sometimes it's really good. Just ring with my grandfather,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 26: my uncles, my mom, my cousins, and my godmother.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: It's just a great surrounding of love.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: Next question, Doug kaide.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 9: Laden, congratulations. Can you just tell, you know, awesome Patrick's
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 9: fans a little bit about your game?
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 26: Just about my game is you know, I'm a grinder
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 26: and instilled in me for years for a long time,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 26: especially with my coaching staff particising them. You know, just
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 26: bring to just be a grinder, just going there and
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 26: be tough, be gritty and go after people over and
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 26: over and over and over again.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: Uh, that's how I do my play style.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 26: You know, growing up I always looked up to Larry
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 26: Allen So and then I love the way that he
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 26: played the game and great some bread off Salon and
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 26: like Quinin Nelton, Chrystal Instroom and the guys like that.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 26: You know, you see their film and they're popping off
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 26: a tape with their effort and strain and finishes.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: And that's how I kind of modeled my game.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 9: And one other quick question, what kind of contact did
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 9: you have with the Patriots before the draft and what
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 9: was that contact like?
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 26: Uh, the contact was, Uh was great. I mean I
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 26: talked to everybody a lot at the Senior Bowl. Then
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 26: we talked at the we kind of visit at the
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 26: Combine a little bit, and then they did interview me
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 26: at A and M before the Pro day, So it
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 26: was kind of like we met a lot and you know,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 26: got to know me a lot and know where my
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 26: football mom was at too.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: As well, and then it was just great communication of everything.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 3: Next question, so if you will Kel, congratulations again.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 24: I was just curious, Uh, what is what has kind
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 24: of been your impression of the Patriots before this moment
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 24: and what is it like to kind of hear your
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 24: name called within that organization?
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 26: Well, you know, the impression of the Patriots, you know,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 26: just a championship chairmpmpionship program. You know, just going there
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 26: and when I visited, because it was one of my
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 26: thirty visits, I mean, it was a great feeling and
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 26: loved the coaches just going around the facility and you
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 26: see all the previous players and all the accolades and
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 26: just tradition of the Super Bowl championships that they had
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 26: in there. You know, that's a winning program and they
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 26: you know, we're doing everything that we can to try
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 26: to get this back on the road to becoming a
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 26: winning to becoming the Super Bowl contending team.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 24: Again, and then sorry, just one more. Obviously, Drake may
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 24: was the first overall pick for the Pick Pass this year.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 24: What do you know about him and what's kind of
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 24: your impression of now getting to play with someone like him.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 26: Oh, you know, Drake Mazy got picked in the top
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 26: in the top ten of the quarterbacks, so it was
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 26: really good just seeing him get drafted there. I don't
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 26: know much about him because you know, in the SEC,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 26: we didn't really play North Carolina. The only time we
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 26: played North Carolina I believe was in the in the
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 26: Orange Bowl a couple of seasons ago. So you know,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 26: I really don't know much about him, but I can't
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 26: wait to get to know much about him and just
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 26: get to know him as a person, get to know
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 26: him as a player, and see his mindset, because you know,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 26: I played with a lot of different quarterbacks and you
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 26: get a feel for different guys, and I just can't
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 26: wait to get to know him and and just see
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 26: him on the field.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: Thank you, and welcome to New England.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 25: Next question, Mark Daniels Heyl, Congratulations, I see that you
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 25: started at right guard at Texas A and M.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 18: Are you coming to the NFL as a right guard.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 25: What type of versatility do you have and are you
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 25: comfortable playing any other positions on the line.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, sir, I'm very comfortable playing in positions.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 26: Whatever the team needs to me's that's what I'm gonna do,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 26: because you know, you always learning anything, you know, I've
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 26: been I played a couple of snaps at left in
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 26: camp sometimes and I play and also I will snap
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 26: the ball after practice every day just in case, just
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 26: to get those rips. So you know, I'm always open
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 26: to anything to help the team out. I'm a versatile
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 26: guy and just anything they needed me, I'm gonna do.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Congruts, thank you so much.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: And next question Taylor Kyles.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 23: Laden Congratulations, welcome to New England. Manius. Of course, I
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 23: was curious about your interactions with Alex van Pelt, if
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 23: you had any, and what he kind of told you
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 23: about your potential fitting this offense. You know a lot
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 23: of wide zone play action kind of stuff from what
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 23: we do on the outside.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 26: Just you know, just coming in and just you know,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 26: understanding everything and basically just getting after it, you know,
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 26: just like running off the ball and getting after everything.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 26: You know, That's the main thing with they talked to
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 26: me about out there, you know, because you know a
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 26: lot of people talked about my play style and how
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 26: like coming off the ball and how is you know,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 26: just my greatest attribute, And they're right, that is my
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 26: greatest attribute. I got things I need to work on,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 26: and I'm gonna get them done, and I'm gonna work
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 26: on because I know what I have to work on.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 26: But you know, just just society to be there, that's
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 26: just everything. You know, I'm just decided I have to
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 26: be there and get to work and just go crazy.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 26: And speaking of which, what are some of those improvements
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 26: for your game? If you don't mind me asking, just
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 26: the improvements of my game, you know, just basically the
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 26: technical side of the pass protection because you know, you know,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 26: I got some good reps in but you know, there's
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 26: a lot of reps that I could have improved on better.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: And I've seen that and I broke down that film
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: and I know what I need to get better at.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 26: And so now you know, I just got to get
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 26: in there and then attack all my weaknesses and then
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 26: make them my strengths.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: All congratulations, Yeah, man, thank you, thank you.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: It's like that's all the questions for today, so thank
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: you so much for joining us.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 5: All right, so that's Laden Robinson and his first encounter
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: with the New England media is welcome to New England. Yeah,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 5: welcome to New England.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 7: You know, because congratulations, man, I wasn't supposed to say
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 7: that was just a question to say anything. It's a
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 7: press conference, ask a question, right, I've done those for
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 7: twenty five years. I've never once done that once and
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 7: I can honestly tell you that I am.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 8: Also curiously, I'm just trying to play the other side
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 8: a little bit. These are people that once next season
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 8: comes around, we try to establish a poor wist, so
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 8: God forbid we be human beings and say some pleasantries
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 8: before we get into the question.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 7: And that's all you're trying to do. What like that,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 7: trying to suck up. Just ask your question. It's not
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 7: your job, they're not your friends. There are people you're covering.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 7: Ask your question and move on for the next person
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 7: so they can ask their question.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 5: You'll see him in the locker room and you'll say
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 5: it and you can say hello and introduce yourself.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 7: And that's a congratulations time. Did you welcome into New England.
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  Speaker 6: No, you didn't get the hell out.
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  Speaker 7: I remember then.
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  Speaker 5: I remember when we had that web you said, congratulate,
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  Speaker 5: thank you. Now you're my favorite media member.
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  Speaker 6: It is a welcome to New England. Is the new
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  Speaker 6: I'm just curious that was our initial like press conference, bugaboo,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 6: just curious.
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  Speaker 8: I mean when I was in journalism school, one of
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 8: my professors said that if he ever heard me say,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 8: talk about talk about your feelings on this, asked a question, yeah,
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 8: that he will personally call me himself and yell at
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 8: me talk about you on lawn order.
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  Speaker 5: That would be an objection because no question was asked.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, oh there you go, Yeah sustained.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, is there a question?
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  Speaker 6: Is there a question which tomorrow you need a law order?
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  Speaker 2: Yeap?
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  Speaker 5: All right, So that's that's great. We're waiting for the
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: Patriots next pick, but it won't be during this show
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: as of now, because they don't have a pick until
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: the sixth round and we're still in the fifth round.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, not even on the ticker all the way one
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 8: eighty yeah, but they do.
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  Speaker 5: They do have two picks in the sixth round, so
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 5: you never know. They can move into the bottom of
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 5: the fifth some body that they're intrigued with down there.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 5: I don't see. I don't think it's likely, but we'll see.
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  Speaker 6: No, like I said, last year was nuts, like day three,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 6: Well they have nine guys, I mean, especially when you
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 6: get to this point, you're kind of out of steam.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 6: And then they just were like rattling off pick after pick.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 6: I know, Pop Douglas gave us a little all right,
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 6: that's exciting, you know.
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  Speaker 8: I mean last year was that draft was after Gonzo,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 8: between Gonzo and Pop Douglas. That was a rough run
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 8: for me. I was, I was pretty disappointed. And then
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 8: they saved the draft with with Pop.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I mean that, you know that the new guard there,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 6: he seems you know, he seems like a good dude.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 6: I just that that is the one pick I think
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 6: you could probably question about.
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  Speaker 7: That was like the polar opposite though in terms of
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 7: the press free, like very.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 6: I'm with my whole family here in a beautiful place.
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  Speaker 7: Very you know, just very straightforward, very focused, you know,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 7: Whereas Baker was like in his car kind of looking around,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 7: you know, obviously had a lot of colorful things to say,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 7: this guy was a little bit more conservative. Yah Robinson.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 7: So yeah, two different personalities, but offensive.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 6: Lineman and a wide receiver kind of embodies those personalities, right, absolutely.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I thought that he described his own playing style very accurately,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 8: which is not have.
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  Speaker 6: You ever disagreed with someone with their own playing style
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 6: and like that's not you?
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  Speaker 8: Uh No, I mean sometimes like some guy you know,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 8: always get to oh, who did you model your game after?
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 8: And I always feel like that sets up unfair expectations
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 8: because they always say it's always going to be a
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 8: good player, Like, it's not, Oh, I modeled my game
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 8: after Kishon Booty, It's going to be I modeled my
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 8: game after Keenan Allen.
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  Speaker 5: You know, tell me about your self awareness, you, sir,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 5: are no Keenan Allen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Let's get back to the Ace ticket hutline Web Brady,
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  Speaker 5: Jason's been holding on from Florida. What's up, Jason? Hey?
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  Speaker 26: How you doing?
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  Speaker 14: Can you hear me?
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  Speaker 1: We can?
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  Speaker 2: Yep?
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  Speaker 10: Awesome, Hey, great coverage.
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  Speaker 27: I love the draft now and I would say past nations.
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  Speaker 10: One question for you, how.
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  Speaker 27: Do you think may how are they going to handle
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 27: Drake may bring training camp.
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  Speaker 16: If he appears to.
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  Speaker 27: Be the clear cut best quarterback.
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  Speaker 14: Are they gonna start him week one?
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  Speaker 27: It's obviously going to be a difficult decision, probably a
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 27: lot of pressure on Mail, but like here, yeah, it's it's.
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  Speaker 5: A good question to handle that. Yeah, well I'll let
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 5: you hang up because your phone stinks. But anyway, no
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: good question if he if he's if he is the
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 5: clear cut, do you start him? And I think, first
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 5: of all, I think would everyone agreed probably the reps
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 5: will be split pretty much between him and per set
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 5: ZAPPI getting.
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  Speaker 8: Some I wonder if he's clear second team for a
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 8: little bit, just to not as any sort of mischief,
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 8: like I remember Max tricky year. Cam was always first,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 8: but Mac would then go on like a twenty reperunt, right,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 8: And so obviously they were giving all the developmental opportunities
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 8: to Mac. But when it looked like, you know, looked
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 8: like Cam was the starter in air quotes, and I
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 8: think Cam himself said it after he got cut. He
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 8: was like, I probably should have realized this guy's I'm
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 8: getting five reps and then this guy's getting twenty five reps.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 8: The order didn't really necessarily matter in that guy.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 6: My thing is I think follow Jacoby Brissett around, like
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 6: attach yourself at the hip to Jacoby Brissett. But I
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 6: think that there'll be some inconsistencies from Drake main practice,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 6: but they'll probably be some wow moments too where he
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 6: just like in corks a couple of balls and you see.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 6: But I'd be really surprised to see him make that
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 6: push that Matt Mac just look kind of comfortable right
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 6: from the get go, especially in the pocket. I mean,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 6: it sounds weird to say now I think Drake May's
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 6: gonna have those things like the simple.
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  Speaker 5: Well, what would you have to see to say we
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 5: got to start this guy right away?
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: I need to see him in the pocket, comfortable, getting
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 6: the ball out, quick, hitting guys in stride right away,
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 6: you know, which is kind of what Mac what I thought,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 6: Mac did?
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  Speaker 8: I think that's really it is the timing, you know,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 8: is he because it's I don't think it's gonna be
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 8: a talent thing. It's gonna be between the ears of
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 8: is he understanding the play the play calls, understanding the playbook,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 8: understanding the checks, things he has to do with the
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 8: line of scrimmage, throwing on time, throwing with anticipation, you know,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 8: those types of things. I I it's not gonna be Oh,
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 8: this guy doesn't have a good enough arm.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 7: Comes out on time consistently, And I don't I mean,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 7: it's a great question that the caller asked. I. I
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 7: don't know if he's head and shoulders the best. I
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 7: don't know if he'll start week one. You know, they
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 7: might just not want to start him right away, Yeah,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 7: which I would be disappointed.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 6: And if he's if you know, you want to see
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 6: him a least get a chance.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 7: No, what I'm saying is if he is clearly the
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 7: best quarterback, then he should play. But I don't, you know,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure that that will be the case.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing. And I was gonna mention it
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 5: yesterday and we ran out of time. But if he does,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 5: if and when he does play and say, okay, you're
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 5: gonna you're gonna start from this point on, I hope
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 5: they don't make the same mistake they.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: Made with Mac.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 5: And that mistake is that leash that they had on
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 5: him and not you know, being afraid to allow to
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 5: make him make mistakes. You have to do that. You
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 5: have to understand your limitations and make those mistakes so
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 5: you learn, and I think I.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 7: Think they will. I think they I think it's different.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 5: Careful.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: I agree with you.
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  Speaker 7: I know exactly what your point is. And you're thinking
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 7: back to like the first you know, six or eight weeks,
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 7: where it was they threw the ball all over the place,
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 7: but you know, in a very controlled way. I just
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 7: think that that was best for Mac. Yeah, and I
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 7: think this that wouldn't necessarily be best for Drake May.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 7: In my opinion, I think it's the opposite.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 8: I'm actually a little bit concerned that they're going to
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 8: try to take away the gunslinger in Drake May, and
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 8: even as he matures it throughout the rest of his career,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 8: he's gonna have a little bit of Josh Allen in
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 8: him where he's gonna make some mistakes and turn the
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 8: ball over a little bit. But if you if you
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 8: harness that and you pull them in, then that's taking
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 8: away his superpower you got. He's gonna be one of
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 8: those guys that's gonna be volatile at times and you
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 8: have to just ride the wave and know that at
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 8: the end you're gonna put up thirty five. You know,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 8: hopefully obviously, so.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 7: You got you might be right. I think that they'll
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 7: look at it different like Mac. I think if you
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 7: would let him, if he had taken the leash off,
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 7: then it would have unraveled a lot before, would have
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 7: looked like it did well.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 5: And then maybe we'd know a little bit sooner too.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 7: So I think they handled Mac right because I think
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 7: they played to his limitations. Now what they did in
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 7: year two and year three is a different story. I
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 7: mean the rookie year. But if if Drake May is
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 7: showing an understanding of the offense right away, I want
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 7: him to play as a rookie. It doesn't have to
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 7: be week one, but I want him to play meaningful games.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 10: You know.
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  Speaker 6: You know it's gonna be funny though, is that he'll
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 6: have those reps where he doesn't quite know what he's
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 6: doing or way to go to the ball, and he'll
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 6: just tuck it and start running and it'll it'll look
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 6: kind of impressive. Then you'll have half the media is
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 6: going to say, well, he didn't know what he's doing
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 6: all and the other house is going to say, man,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 6: he looks good on the hoof, you know that.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 7: I mean, he's that kind of player. Yeah, and that
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 7: will happen in games, like he's an excellent runner, yeah, excellent.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: Driver, yeah, but in practice they're going to have to
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 5: tell him you can't run, you know, You've got to
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 5: have complete the play.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, but he is a really good runner.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 8: That's something that I haven't talked a ton about with
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 8: him because I think that there's so much to talk
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 8: about with the passing, both on the good and the
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 8: bad end with him, that we've take up most of
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 8: our time doing that. But over the last two years,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 8: I think in twenty twenty two, he might have like
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 8: sixteen rushing touchdowns over the last two years or something
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 8: like that. You know, not only is he a good
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 8: runner that he can pick up first downs on third
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 8: and five, but he's also a good goal line runner.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 8: If you want to use him like that, that you
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 8: can have him be you know what Cam Newton was
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 8: in twenty twenty where he's punching it in for you
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 8: as well.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 5: Let's go to Joe in Texas. Hey, Joseph, Hey, how
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 5: y'all doing you know? Yep?
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 28: Hey, Joe, all right, I got a couple of questions
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 28: about time into each other. How confident are y'all that
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 28: will be a winning team this season on a scale
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 28: from one to ten with the way the offseason is
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 28: going so far. Also, we had a sliver of hope
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 28: with the seven win streak with Mac a couple of
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 28: years ago before things went tower the season after. How
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 28: much are y'all gonna have to see now that we've
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 28: had that experience getting let down to actually have confidence
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 28: in us being a legitimate playoff contender again.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't have a lot of confidence that will
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 5: be a winning team this year, but I do have
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 5: I'm very, very hopeful that we'll have the indications that
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 5: the team's on the on the rise, that there's hope
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 5: for the future. But I don't think it's going to
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 5: translate to you know, above five hundred or you know,
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 5: getting close to the playoffs this year.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 6: I hope I'm wrong, right, But well, you want to
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 6: see you want to see these offensive line pieces come together,
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 6: and to say, out of all these draft picks and
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 6: free agents that we've signed over the last couple years
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 6: on the offensive line, if we can get through this
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 6: year and into this year, and hopefully these guys are
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 6: the ones that are under contract, Like, hey, we feel
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 6: like we've got an offensive line.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 10: Now.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 6: If these rookie wide receivers step in and bump some
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 6: of the guys that we've been disappointed in off the roster,
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 6: and those guys are contributing, and it seems like, you know,
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, you get the thing
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 6: that everybody wanted, which is that the offensive line is
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 6: in place. We've got some weapons, we're ready for Drake
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 6: may now to take the keys, and he has stuff
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 6: to work with and the protection.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 7: Those are all the examples of the things that we
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 7: always say, well know when we see it. I don't
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 7: have a number to quantify it. I don't I can't
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 7: put a finger on what I would say is progress.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 7: But all those things that you just said. If Baker
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 7: and Polk are there instead of Jalen Raeger and Juju
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 7: Smith Schuster, that's a sign of development. If you have
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 7: maybe seven guys who start on the offensive line instead
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 7: of you know, the twenty eight that did last year
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 7: or whatever it was, that's a sign of development. I
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 7: don't know what the record will be at the end
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 7: of the year. It probably won't be all that much different,
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 7: but that will be a lot more encouraging to me.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 7: I mean, this has taken obviously aside from the only
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 7: thing that really matters and Drake May. You know, you
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 7: can have some of those things happen or none of
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 7: those things happen. If Drake May is c J. Stroud,
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 7: you're going to be better both on the field, record
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 7: wise and development wise. But I'm assuming that you're not
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 7: going to get that meteoric. Yeah, you know, but rise
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 7: into the league.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 5: Like Paul said, you're gonna have to see it. I mean,
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 5: if you'll see it, you'll know if Bassett starts and
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 5: the Patriots are two and six and then they put
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 5: in Drake May, and Drake May wins four or five
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 5: games down the stretch will be like sky high.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 7: Well I would be sky high. But even if Drake
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 7: May goes in and goes two and six as well.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 7: But Javon Baker's catching a couple of passes here and there,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 7: and Jalen Polk is doing this over there, and you know,
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 7: maybe Kaylen Wallace is playing some tackle. Maybe he's the
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 7: swing tackle and he you know, when someone gets hurt
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 7: and he has to play and it doesn't fall apart.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 7: Those are things that I think would be really encouraging
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 7: like again, you could have the same record, but you
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 7: know it, you know, you kind of know when you
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 7: see it, when when you're plugging in Verderian Lowe and
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 7: you know he's not the answer, and Calvin Anderson and
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 7: or whatever was going on with him last year with
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 7: that mysterious illness, and it's just one different guy after another,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 7: Conor McDermott, and you know who knows who's playing guard.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 7: There's they're alternating series with guards. You remember that, Remember
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 7: that period where Strange was playing one series and then
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 7: Mafia would come in the net, Like that's not ideal.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean Matt gro said, the worst thing is
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 8: to not have any tackles and and you're you're scrambling
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 8: at tackle, and that's what that's what they were doing
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 8: last year. I understand people calling in. Everybody thinks I
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 8: pick on the callers. I'm not picking on the callers,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 8: but I it's hard for us to sit here, I
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 8: think and say that their four wins better, they're three
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 8: wins better, they're five wins better. Even in I don't
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 8: even know if I could say that at the end
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 8: of training camp, like I don't know when we're gonna
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 8: like I don't really do well with that. We so
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 8: much of it is so random too, right, It's just
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 8: to Paul's point, it's just all about how does it look?
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 8: You know, who's playing, and is it developing? And does
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 8: Jalen does it finally look like they hit on a
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 8: receiver with Jalen Polk and Javon Baker, And you know,
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 8: how about the offensive line? Is the defense you know,
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 8: still a really good defense, and it's not necessarily gonna
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 8: result in like they're gonna win ten games next year.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 7: If the same exact team played the same exact schedule
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 7: last year, all the same personnel, everybody that got hurt
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 7: got hurt. Yeah, every guy that was available for every game.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 7: I'm not telling you they would have gone four and thirteen.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: Again.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 7: They might only won two games, they might have won six.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 7: I'll like, there's such a randomness to it with so
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 7: many of those games come down to the last. How
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 7: many times does Bill tell you it came down to
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 7: a couple of plays and unfortunately they made the plays. Yeah, Now,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 7: I'm not telling you they could have played the whole
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 7: season over again and gone thirteen and four instead of
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 7: four and thirteen. That wasn't possible, but it was possible
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 7: that they could have won five to six seven games
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 7: based on the way the game the game's unfolded, and
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 7: they might only won two if they unfolded differently.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 6: Sometimes they get shut out at least once.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 7: I remember the one here six nothing against the child?
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 7: Is that the only one?
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 5: Jay in Minnesota? What's up? Jay?
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 29: Hello, guys, we'll be having a good Saturday. I called
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 29: him yesterday to catch twenty two and I asked Evan
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 29: and Alex about the prototype receiver that were best fit
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 29: Drake May and I was kind of shocked that so
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 29: many teams passed up on Ady Mitchell, and he felt
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 29: so far, I'm not so with the whole pick really,
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 29: but I'm kind of wondering why they would go with
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 29: Baker over his teammates, says Walker.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 16: Knowing that he went two picks later.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 29: I think, I feel like that's a lot of development
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 29: that they already have, and I'm kind of concerned why
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 29: they didn't pick them. But I can also see why
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 29: Paul is concerned with Baker because those outward receivers, you know,
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 29: who are talking a lot. They can either go for
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 29: a thousand yards d season or they could barely make
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 29: it out of training account. So I kind of see
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 29: the concern. But I'm wondering why they don't go with,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 29: says Walker.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just think they're going to hope that they
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 6: developed chemistry. And it's just two years together. I mean,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 6: how much did they play together too?
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 7: Years ago?
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 8: Honestly, last year they didn't play a ton together because
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 8: tes Walker, he was ineligible for a while because of
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 8: a transfer.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 6: You make it up, you go with the better player.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, you know it'll be quick before he has
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 6: as much experience playing, you know, with Drake as what
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 6: test Ive.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 7: Been on records saying, I like Baker more than Walker anyway,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 7: but I am I'm not gonna lie that guy's name
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 7: as much. He was a little bit much. Really interesting.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 7: Just back to the draft, Spencer Rattler just went to
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 7: the Saints.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 8: I think it's the first quarterback.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 7: Yeah, a record since shows the record long streak of
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 7: well Over. Get him quick, get one hundred and thirty
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 7: picks or something.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 8: I just think that, you know, back to one hundred
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 8: and forty picks. Walker and Baker quickly they clearly And
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 8: when I asked grow about this, he taught he said
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 8: that you know, that's the league, and tested catches and
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 8: finishing in traffic and that type of stuff is the league.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 8: And the biggest knock on Tess Walker is his hands.
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 8: Tons of drops on film and I really struggled to
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 8: finish through contact at the Senior Bowl against you know,
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 8: NFL caliber corners just not no. Like, they're very, very
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 8: different types of players. Like Tess Walker is this developmental
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 8: vertical threat. Javon Baker is a much more physical player.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 8: It's not that different than the conversations we were having
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 8: about Jalen Polk and some of the other guys, you know,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 8: a Lad McConkey or a Troy Franklin or somebody like that.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 8: So they they're clearly going after a certain type of receiver,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 8: you know, physical, tough, good catch radius, good hands, you
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 8: know that type of player versus you know, a guy
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 8: like Ted Walker, who's really just a one trick pony.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 5: John's in LA. What's up, John?
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 27: Hey, I just wanted to say to everybody, thank you
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 27: so much for the draft coverage that like from them
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 27: in the middle of last season through today. It's unbelievably great.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 27: Evans made a great difference eposed to Alex bart and
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 27: and all of your guys work Mastis and Paul and
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 27: everybody curtain.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 5: Calls being great.
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  Speaker 8: We don't have to give Barth credit though he's a
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 8: different stations.
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  Speaker 5: Well, he's an insider, so he's got a leg up
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 5: on just kidding.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 27: Well, he's been like revolutionized, really good and appreciate it
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 27: quick thing.
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  Speaker 14: Of course, of course, thank you. If each of you
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 14: had one guy.
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 29: One pick that you could just overrule and take somebody else.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 27: And I'll go for Fred Firstconi everybody else, well, no, you.
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  Speaker 5: Know what I would have I would have liked to
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 5: have seen them take Christian Mahogany the BC guard instead
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 5: of uh, yeah.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a good one, I might say, Uh, probably
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 6: the big TCU tight end over the over the guard.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean the guard is probably the pick that
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 8: bugs me the most just because of the position. Yeah,
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 8: but I feel like they they kind of missed the
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 8: run on the tackles on day two a little bit.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 8: And how much would it have cost them to move
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 8: up ten picks to take Kingsley's to Matia from the Chiefs,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 8: you know, or you know one of those guys that
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 8: was maybe a little bit earlier. I know that that's
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 8: kind of overcomplicating it because now you're trading up and
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 8: you're doing other things. But I don't hate Wallace. I
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 8: just think that his ceiling is kind of like swing tackle,
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 8: you know, OT three. I don't really see him as
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 8: starting caliber on the at least on the outside. Maybe
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 8: at guard he could be a starting guard, but at tackle,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 8: I think that that's pushing it a little bit. Where
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 8: they had moved up like ten picks or so, they
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 8: might have been able to grab one of those last
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 8: starting caliber trade type of guards.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 7: I would answer just by saying, I really like, you
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 7: know pretty much all the picks so far. I would
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 7: maybe I just would say, just to give you one
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 7: is is at Ni Mitchell instead of Jalen Polk. But
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 7: I know what everybody's talking about with with Mitchell. There
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 7: might be red flags all over the place for him,
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 7: So I think he might have been off the board.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 5: Being Fresno writes in the Javon Baker quotes are a riot.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 5: The guy might the guy might be a total maniac.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 5: Wonder if Mayo's regime will be more permissive with this
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 5: sort of stuff than Bill was.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 6: There's good and bad with that, Yeah, I mean that's
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 6: he got to get him out there, see, I mean
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 6: come out.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 5: He's got to get out there and show it. I
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 5: mean it's all talk until you do it. And he's
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 5: going to learn that real quick.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know it's and he's stepping into a place
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 6: where there's just a lot of competition. And I won't
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 6: say there's you know, high level competition, but you know
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 6: there's professional NFL receivers in this group that have had
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 6: that have played in this at this level. So you know,
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 6: it's it's it's no easy task to come in and
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 6: take Juju smith Schuster's job, even though I think he
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 6: probably should. And you know, same with Taekwon Thornton. I
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 6: mean he's he's pouring everything he has into this season too,
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 6: So I think it's it's gonna all cold. I say, Paul,
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 6: iron sharpen, what iron sharpens, iron tires of iron itself.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 7: So there you correct. So here's a you know, I
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 7: know we only have like ten or fifteen minutes here,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 7: but Juju, I wonder, you know, like they've made a
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 7: lot of like the amount of app space that they've
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 7: sort of maintained just eat it. I wonder if they're
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 7: playing it on you know, we got we got a
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 7: couple of guys here. I wonder if they're just playing
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 7: a bite in the bullet and eating that cap space,
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 7: because he would be the one guy, like you said,
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 7: like they have a lot of NFL receivers and there
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 7: that he would be the one I would say qualifies
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 7: as that. Like I don't think Jalen Rager has ever
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 7: been in an NFL caliber. He's a first round pick,
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 7: had all kinds of pedigree, but he's never really done
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 7: it as a wid wide receiver. And this is multiple
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 7: spots now, It's not like the Pageots drafted him and
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 7: hasn't worked out. He's been in Philly, he's been in Minnesota,
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 7: he's been here. Yeah, you know when aside from returning
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 7: a kick for a touchdown, I don't really think he's
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 7: done much as an NFL player. I would say the
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 7: same with Taekwon Thowton, the second round pick, been here
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 7: a couple of years, hasn't really created a niche for himself.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 6: But I'd say going deeper Osborne and Bourne and I'm
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 6: trying to push those down question, trying to push down
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 6: the depth chart, trying to get on the field, not
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 6: just off the roster, but you know, trying to get
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 6: get those reps so that we can get to that
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 6: point like.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 7: We talked about.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 8: No, you're right, Osborne Douglas Bourne are on this team,
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 8: and now the two rookies are going to be on
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 8: the team. I mean, you're not going to cut a
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 8: fourth round pick unless he's an absolute disaster. So, uh,
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 8: those five guys, and are you going to keep a
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 8: sixth receiver? Maybe that's where you have to keep Juju
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 8: just because of the money situation, is the sixth receiver.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 8: But then you know that's it for Taekwon, which I'm
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 8: not saying it.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 7: But did you just cut? Like that wasn't that hard?
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 7: Like there's a lot of bodies, there's a lot of names,
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 7: but no one. But it's kind of no one. I
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 7: don't think that anybody. I don't be really disappointed. Now
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 7: we'll get because we get you know, people that are
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 7: going to question everything. You know, we'll get. You know,
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 7: how could they let go of Booty? You know there too?
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 7: You know what, people didn't get his foot down? What
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 7: are you gonna do? People will be upset about fulger
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 7: mask claim it's because you didn't get his foot in bound.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 8: His whole career would have been different if he just
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 8: got his foot in It's like Nikhil Harry on the
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 8: fumbles against Kansas City.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 5: You know man or you know Polke will have a
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 5: good dame. What about Pop?
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 5: Chris writes in Why All the Haiti says, it's clear.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 5: I think that it's a aren't that they are drafting
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 5: around their new quarterback. These two wide receivers have great hands,
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 5: they track the ball and are tough at the catch point.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 5: I think the Patriots are gonna get some of We
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 5: got our guys. It also sends a message to the
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 5: wide receiver and o line depth chart that you are
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 5: all on notice and everyone's not going to be on
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 5: the team next year. With that said, who do you
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 5: think are some surprise or not so surprise cuts for
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 5: those positions this year? But it's a little early for
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 5: that question.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 7: I like it A wide receiver, yeah, I don't think
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 7: you're gonna get a surprise cut, No surprise. I think
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 7: Evan just gave you the depth chart, and I don't
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 7: think there'll be any surprises.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, if Bourne got cut, I'd be surprised.
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that would be a surprise.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 6: I don't think Osborne too.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 7: Osborne, the two rookies, and probably to Mario Douglas. I
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 7: think those would be the only surprises.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 5: And I think right now they're lost.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 7: I think they're all going to be here.
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I like it. This is a rebuild draft. Let's
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 5: all wait and see them develop before we start criticizing
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 5: the process. This seems different than other drafts for this,
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 5: I'm excited it.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean i'd look. I mean, you can't really
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 6: even look at the defense for surprise cuts at this point,
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 6: but you know, you look into the the offensive line,
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 6: you know, is Cold Strange and and Antonio Maffi.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 8: I really do wonder about so Cold Strange has the
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 8: is coming off an injury also, and there's some reports
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 8: out there already that he might not be ready for
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 8: training camp.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 7: Zoe said he was ahead of schedule the other day. Okay,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 7: what's like, what's what's the schedule?
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 8: Maybe maybe that made this report about him not necessarily
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 8: being ready.
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 7: I believe that more than what I heard.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 8: Well, that was that was from February at the Combine,
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 8: and uh, you know, between that and the fact that
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 8: he's just been injured, a lot, like he's that guy.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 8: He's had a durability and issue at this point, like.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 7: He's got like a kind of a size strength kind
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 7: of yeah problem. Yeah.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 8: I do wonder if maybe they just cut their losses.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 8: They're like, well, that was a bad pick, and we're
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 8: we're moving on.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 6: It's so disappointing how that all went down. Like I
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 6: just in training camp, like the first day of pads.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 6: You're you're excited to see some contact, to see some
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 6: real football quote unquote, and then just like that, he's
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 6: over and Dante's inferno getting checked out and he's taking some.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 7: Steps and you're like, is he okays? You know, he's
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 7: not getting carted off? And here we are.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 8: You know, Yeah, that's what that pick was.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 5: Chad's in Illinois. What's up, Chad? Chad?
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 7: Chad?
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 5: Okay, hold it on that one.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 6: I gotta tell Hardy my story about Zoe.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 7: He'd appreciate that. Yeah he does.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 5: Franklin writes in pretty sure, you guys already discussed this,
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 5: but I strongly feel Thornton's time with the team is over.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 5: On the one hand, I feel bad for him because
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 5: it's not his fault he got overdrafted, but On the
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 5: other hand, I'm not exactly sad at saying Addio's to
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 5: the last remnant of Bill's terrible wide receiver picks.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 7: Fair.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he is doing a lot of bench pressing.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 7: Now, what I don't think is fair as what I'm
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 7: starting to hear a little of, Like, you know, this
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 7: draft was so refreshing, so different. Yeah, it's like, yeah,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 7: it's it's kind of amazing when you have the third
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 7: pick in every rounds.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 5: But the needs were so obvious, and they got three
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 5: guys at those.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 7: Bill Belichick, right, you know, mystery, couldn't do anything, couldn't
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 7: tie your shoes. Evidently somehow stumbled into six titles. When
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 7: he was on the he was on the McAfee thing.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 5: I agree, I agree.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 6: I love when Paul's on Bill side of the street.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 7: No, I agree, because I'm going to criticize Bill a
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 7: little bit too here. But he was doing the McAfee
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 7: thing the other night. He was kind of critical of
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 7: Drake May. But wha did he have Drake May and
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 7: his big board?
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know that was right up there.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 7: Five five overall, not fifth quarterback. Bill had a big
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 7: boy five overall.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 6: Well, there was some speculation if it was like his.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know, but that's what it was attached
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 7: to his name.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 9: It was.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, there was some rumors or whatever you want to
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 8: call it, that it was actually field the eights is board.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 8: That might be, but he he wasn't going to put
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 8: himself in front of the board if he didn't feel
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 8: like if he thought that Drake May was really like
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 8: fifty eight, he wouldn't have allowed that to go out there. Yeah,
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 8: and you know he talked to but he said good
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 8: and bad about it a guy, and he did.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 7: He did good and bad. And I thought I thought
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 7: he was pretty critical of Drake May. But he was
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 7: pretty critical I thought of all of the quarter I
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 7: agree with Frank thought he was pretty critical of all
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 7: of them.
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  Speaker 5: I think I think the only thing he did different
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  Speaker 5: maybe with May than he did with the others is
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  Speaker 5: what you know, he compares himself to Josh Allen, which.
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  Speaker 7: I don't really like. I'd like to see I'm not
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  Speaker 7: telling you that that's not true. I'd like to see that.
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  Speaker 5: Oh I saw it.
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  Speaker 6: You saw Drake May say that.
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  Speaker 7: I'm like, like, Josh saw Bill say Oh, No, I
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  Speaker 7: saw Bill say it. I haven't. I haven't seen where
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  Speaker 7: Drake May has said it.
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  Speaker 5: I've seen other people, million people.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean he compares himself to that's what he said.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know if he I think saying that he
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  Speaker 8: compares himself to Josh Allen is strong. It's kind of
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  Speaker 8: like how Jalen Polka said that his favorite player to
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 8: watches Keenan Allen. Like he's not saying that he's as
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  Speaker 8: good as Keenan all and he's saying, like, that's the
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  Speaker 8: guy I look up to that I hope to be someday.
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  Speaker 8: I think Drake May might have said that he hopes
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  Speaker 8: to even if Josh said that, then I would I
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  Speaker 8: would give Bill some slack.
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  Speaker 7: I haven't even heard.
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  Speaker 6: I hadn't heard that either, but.
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  Speaker 7: I mean that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 6: It's I mean, how many guys came out and I'd
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  Speaker 6: like to, you know, be like Tom Brady, Like you know.
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  Speaker 8: That if somebody asks you what quarterback do you emulate?
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  Speaker 8: What quarterback do you watch that you like the most,
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  Speaker 8: And he says Josh Allen, that doesn't mean that he's
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  Speaker 8: comparing yourself to Josh.
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  Speaker 5: But that's a little bit different. If somebody asks you
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  Speaker 5: what quarterback do you fashion yourself you know.
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  Speaker 8: Right right, you know, or yeah, no, this was I
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  Speaker 8: think was more of like what Polk was asked about yesterday,
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  Speaker 8: like which receivers in the league do you watch that
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  Speaker 8: you try to.
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  Speaker 6: You know, emulate Eagles took Jeremiah Trotter junior. That's that's
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  Speaker 6: that's nice.
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  Speaker 18: That's nice.
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  Speaker 7: Like Jet's just traded John Franklin Myers to Denver for
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  Speaker 7: a sixth round pick.
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  Speaker 8: What wow, salary dump.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's pretty good player.
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  Speaker 5: All right, Well, listen, that's gonna be it for our
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 5: draft coverage, at least on this show. But the draft
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 5: coverage on Patriots dot Com and all our social media
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 5: channels continues, you know, all today, and you know, throughout
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 5: next week we'll have all kinds of stuff about the
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 5: draft picks that the Patriots took, and then tomorrow too. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: so you'll be you know, signing the guys off the
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 5: street after this, the guys that didn't get drafted, and
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  Speaker 5: who knows who you get there. So I appreciate everybody
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 5: watching and listening over the weekend. Matt Morrell, thank you
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 5: for the help. Everybody else in the control room, thank you.
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