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The Late Debate | 28 January · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Wait when gentle manner. Welcome to the Lake de Base.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the program. I'm Caleb Bond
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  Speaker 2: with freil Leitch and Jamie Rodgers. Here's what's coming up tonight.
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  Speaker 2: A high flying Brisbane boss has laid it on the
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  Speaker 2: line for potential job applicants. You must like a cold beer.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds good to me and no people allowed. He sees
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  Speaker 2: they ruined the workplace culture here here more on that shortly.
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  Speaker 2: A scientist working on a major defense project here in
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  Speaker 2: Australia has also worked on military projects in you guessed it, China?
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  Speaker 2: How do things like this keep happening? And the hospital
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  Speaker 2: where the air conditioning ducks are filled with mold and
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  Speaker 2: maggots are falling on the patients from the air vents,
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  Speaker 2: That is coming up in the papers. But first, an
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  Speaker 2: interesting story from Victoria tonight, where the coroner, Ingrid Giles
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  Speaker 2: has declared that measures to stop people taking drugs actually
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  Speaker 2: make people take more drugs. Now. This is all stemmed
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  Speaker 2: from the unfortunate case of a young woman's death trying
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  Speaker 2: T two lee.
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  Speaker 1: She died in.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty twenty three after going to a music festival in
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  Speaker 2: Melbourne where she had taken or at least during the
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  Speaker 2: day had taken MDMA and ketamine. She then collapsed at
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  Speaker 2: this music festival, was taken to hospital and died later
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  Speaker 2: at that night. So as part of the coronial inquest,
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  Speaker 2: the coroner has looked into the various things that may
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  Speaker 2: or may not contribute to people dying of drug overdoses
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  Speaker 2: at music festivals, and she has come to the conclusion,
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  Speaker 2: amongst other things, that she supports pill testing, of which
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  Speaker 2: there is a trial currently happening in Victoria, and that
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  Speaker 2: all the measures that are meant to stop people taking
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  Speaker 2: the drugs actually make them take more, she wrote in
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  Speaker 2: her report quote A common thread throughout research is that
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  Speaker 2: countermeasures designed exclusively to prevent people using drugs, for example,
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  Speaker 2: police security guards, bag searchers, sniffer dogs, higher penalties for
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  Speaker 2: drug position, have no positive impact on drug use or
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  Speaker 2: related harms, and in some cases can actually lead to
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  Speaker 2: riskier drug use and greater drug harms.
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  Speaker 1: Now, amongst the.
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  Speaker 2: Submissions from pro deregulation advocates to the inquiry was the
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  Speaker 2: idea that what people end up doing supposedly is if
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  Speaker 2: they think the coppers and the sniffer dogs and whatever
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  Speaker 2: going to be at the festival that they munch on
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  Speaker 2: all the pills before they go, and so they take
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  Speaker 2: them all in one shot, and then later on they
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  Speaker 2: come a cropper because they haven't behaved themselves. Now, surely
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  Speaker 2: the answer here is that you don't take illicit drugs.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, any loss of life is tragic, and I
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  Speaker 2: feel sorry for any family who loses someone through.
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  Speaker 1: Illicit drug use.
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  Speaker 2: But to say that enforcing the law, which is what
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  Speaker 2: police are trying to do at these festivals, in stopping
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  Speaker 2: people from consuming drugs, that that is somehow one of
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  Speaker 2: the causes of people using illicit drugs, I find pretty
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  Speaker 2: hard to swallow.
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  Speaker 1: Pardon the pun.
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  Speaker 2: If people didn't take drugs, there wouldn't be a problem.
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  Speaker 2: The coppers are simply trying to do their job, aren't they.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's easy for us to sit here and
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  Speaker 3: just say don't take drugs. You know, we have had
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  Speaker 3: eighteen people that have lost their life at Victorian music
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  Speaker 3: festivals and events over a twenty.
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  Speaker 4: Four year period.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's why things like this pill testing, I
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  Speaker 3: personally believe is something that is a positive thing to
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  Speaker 3: be having at music festival so that kids because in
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  Speaker 3: that bracket of those eighteen people that have sadly lost
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  Speaker 3: their life. They all were around that twenty six year
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  Speaker 3: old mark. But having the pill testing at least gives
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  Speaker 3: them an opportunity to have it tested to see what's
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  Speaker 3: in it, and you can then speak.
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  Speaker 4: To people at the festival about.
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  Speaker 3: What's in it the dangers because according to this woman,
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  Speaker 3: she said that a lot of drugs are actually disposed
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  Speaker 3: of when they go to the pill testing, when the
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  Speaker 3: children do learn about what's in it.
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  Speaker 4: So I think there's a bigger picture.
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  Speaker 3: Of ensuring that we do maintain the pill testing because
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  Speaker 3: it's easy just to say, yeah, we've got the police there,
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  Speaker 3: so don't go and take the drugs. And of course
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  Speaker 3: children they don't listen to what parents say or so
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  Speaker 3: they'll take it all before they go, and that's a
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  Speaker 3: dangerous thing. But also for the events too, they often
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  Speaker 3: don't allow you to enter in with a water bottle,
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  Speaker 3: and then the cues to be able to get water
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  Speaker 3: is also contributing to the harmful behaviors of what's going
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  Speaker 3: on at these music festivals. So I think that the
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  Speaker 3: pill testing is a good option to be having at
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  Speaker 3: these events.
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  Speaker 5: Look, I mean, I would respectfully disagree with you, Jamie
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  Speaker 5: and say. Monash University did a study of all drug
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  Speaker 5: related deaths at music festivals in Australia and they're only
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  Speaker 5: sixty four between two thousand and twenty nineteen. Less than
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  Speaker 5: half of those were because of drug toxicity, so less
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  Speaker 5: than thirty. Around thirty deaths in twenty years because of
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  Speaker 5: toxic drug contents. When you think about the thousands of
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  Speaker 5: young people that are going out to music festivals and
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  Speaker 5: doing drugs, I don't support it at all. You won't
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  Speaker 5: find me there, But that's the reality. It is a
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  Speaker 5: tiny percentage of those that actually end up having drug
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  Speaker 5: toxicity related deaths. And I think the reality is pill
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  Speaker 5: testing is just another step in the slippery slope towards
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  Speaker 5: drug legalization. And the reality is with pill testing, you
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  Speaker 5: can only test one pill at a time, and that
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  Speaker 5: involves crushing the pill. If you have a batch of MDMA,
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  Speaker 5: everyone can react differently. There can be different pills made
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  Speaker 5: from different batches along the way. Just because you've tested
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  Speaker 5: one doesn't mean it's all fine. And so I think
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  Speaker 5: it will give people this false sense of security that
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  Speaker 5: they frankly shouldn't have. There is no such thing as
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  Speaker 5: a safe drug at a music festival, you have to
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  Speaker 5: take personal responsibility, and I don't think our tax pay
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  Speaker 5: money should be poured into programs that actually undermine the
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  Speaker 5: integrity of the law.
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  Speaker 2: I think it sort of provides a level of tacit
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  Speaker 2: support for the drug use to some degree, because yes,
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  Speaker 2: they might give them a lecture about, you know, don't
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  Speaker 2: take drugs, little Johnny, that's a bad thing to do.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, once you've had your pill tested and
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  Speaker 2: they say there's no ratsack in it, well, it's essentially like,
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  Speaker 2: we'll go and take it now, mate, And then you're
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  Speaker 2: creating basically spaces where it is legal, though not technically legal, to.
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  Speaker 1: Be in possession of drugs.
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  Speaker 2: Because my argument has always been and look, the coroner
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  Speaker 2: in Victoria may will argue that, you know, they should
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  Speaker 2: have the sniffer dogs and whatever at the festivals because
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  Speaker 2: they are contributing to the more unsafe methods of taking drugs.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're saying here is a space in which
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  Speaker 2: you can take your pill to be tested, what is
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  Speaker 2: to stop a copper standing just over the threshold of
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  Speaker 2: that tent or even in that tent and saying, excuse me, mate, you've.
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  Speaker 1: Got illicit drugs on you.
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  Speaker 2: You are to be arrested because surely if the copper
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  Speaker 2: knows you are in position of illicit drugs, which you are,
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  Speaker 2: if you're in the drug testing tent, then you ought
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  Speaker 2: to be searched and arrested. So we're creating spaces in
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  Speaker 2: which we say, actually, you can have the drugs here.
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  Speaker 2: So is the law real or are we just saying, well,
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  Speaker 2: it applies in certain cases not others, and we look
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  Speaker 2: the other way.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's good to have the option because let's
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  Speaker 3: be frank that children are going to go and not
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  Speaker 3: all of them obviously, but children are going to go
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  Speaker 3: to music festivals and adults and go and whether it's
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  Speaker 3: take ecstasy or MDMA, which sadly this young woman has done.
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  Speaker 3: But at least if there's an option where if there
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  Speaker 3: might be feeling a little bit nervous about it, they
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  Speaker 3: can go in and talk to someone, get it tested,
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  Speaker 3: and to your point, which is a very valid point.
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  Speaker 1: If you're nervous, don't do police. No.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, sometimes you get peer pressure and you
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  Speaker 3: might go into that tent. You might be having peer
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  Speaker 3: pressure where everyone else is taking you might step into
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  Speaker 3: that tent and you could say them, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: I will discard it in here, walk out. Your friends
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  Speaker 3: would have no idea. I just think it's something that's
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  Speaker 3: good to have. And other people have raised very valid
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  Speaker 3: points about the security and the safety in terms of
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  Speaker 3: if that child has gone in and had their pill
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  Speaker 3: tested and then they go off an OD who's then
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  Speaker 3: legally responsible if that then happens. So there have been
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  Speaker 3: some valid points, but I just think it's not the
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  Speaker 3: end of the world.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's a nice idea in theory that we
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  Speaker 5: can have it all. We can have the pill testing,
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  Speaker 5: we can have the law, but everything's a trade off.
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  Speaker 4: And if we do the pill testing, my.
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  Speaker 5: Theory is it is just a slippery slope towards legalization
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  Speaker 5: of all sorts of drugs. And again, just don't do drugs.
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  Speaker 5: That's the best way to prevent all of this bad
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  Speaker 5: stuff from happening. But let's move on and talk about
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  Speaker 5: a finance professional and oussy business owner who is bucking
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  Speaker 5: the trend. Say goodbye to woke corporates, because a new
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  Speaker 5: era is here. The founder and director of Tribeca, which
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  Speaker 5: is an investment fund. His name is Ben Cleary and
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  Speaker 5: he has essentially said to young people. If you want
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  Speaker 5: to work here, you have to drink beer and you
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  Speaker 5: can't be woke. He said, you have to support Queensland
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  Speaker 5: in the state of origin, have to enjoy a cold
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  Speaker 5: four X, and most importantly, you can't be woke. It's
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  Speaker 5: a surefire way to ruin team spirit if you relent
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  Speaker 5: to wokeness. We've seen it before in our Sydney office
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  Speaker 5: and won't be making that mistake again. He is totally
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  Speaker 5: onto something here. Firstly, it's just refreshing to hear someone
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  Speaker 5: in corporate Australia actually say, you know what, we don't
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  Speaker 5: want progressive politics invading our office. We actually want this
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  Speaker 5: to be a neutral space. Good on him for that,
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  Speaker 5: and he is right. When wokeness does start creeping into
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  Speaker 5: the corporate world, it does undermine team spirit because everything
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  Speaker 5: becomes a microaggression, everything becomes offensive. Language has to be
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  Speaker 5: constantly policed. Hr is on steroids. It's unpleasant to work out.
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  Speaker 5: So Ben Cleary, well done.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's one thing he's got wrong. That's that
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  Speaker 2: you must drink four X.
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  Speaker 4: The thing I thought it was support in Queensland.
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  Speaker 2: Well it is, I know, I know. That's the point
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  Speaker 2: before X is catspiss. There's much better beers out there,
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  Speaker 2: and it must be said. But otherwise I'm on board
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  Speaker 2: with this. It should just be policy everywhere. And the
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  Speaker 2: problem is it won't become policy everywhere because the corporate
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  Speaker 2: world has been infected by this bloody lefty work nonsense.
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  Speaker 2: But what he is saying is that, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: want people to be able to come to work and
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  Speaker 2: have fun yep, which which you know in a lot
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  Speaker 2: of workplaces is just impossible now because you've got to
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  Speaker 2: look over your shoulder and make sure that you Oh Jesus,
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  Speaker 2: is they the wrong thing in front of that person
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  Speaker 2: and they're going to run off and make a complaint.
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  Speaker 1: And the next thing, I'm up in front.
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  Speaker 2: Of HR because the person I've actually said it to like.
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  Speaker 2: In all the corporate training you get these days, they
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  Speaker 2: tell you it doesn't matter whether the person you've said
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  Speaker 2: something to care is what you've said. If someone on
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  Speaker 2: the other side of the office happens to be walking
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  Speaker 2: past you as you say it and they don't like
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  Speaker 2: that you've said it, You're up in front of HR.
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  Speaker 2: Good night nurse, which is just ridiculous. If you don't
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  Speaker 2: like what I've got to say, don't come near my desk.
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  Speaker 2: Quite frankly, just leave me alone. I think of the
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  Speaker 2: stuff that was being said when I started work ten
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  Speaker 2: years ago in the newsroom, and a lot of what
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  Speaker 2: we were saying then ten years on now. But you'd
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  Speaker 2: be strung up and shot if you said that. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that's necessarily a good thing. I mean, yes,
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  Speaker 2: there are certain things that we've weeded out, sexual harassment, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: fair enough, you shouldn't go around groping people and whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But there's a certain level of fun that I think,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we've just thrown the baby out with the bathwater,
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  Speaker 2: and he's saying, let's just bring back a bit of
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  Speaker 2: that workplace culture we.
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  Speaker 4: Have, and it's so sad.
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  Speaker 3: I remember a previous workplace and I walked into a
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  Speaker 3: room and a colleague said, gee, don't you look nice.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's okay, you're allowed to say that someone
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  Speaker 3: looks nice. And the look on his face was shock
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  Speaker 3: horror that, oh my god, I've said something that could
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  Speaker 3: get me into trouble. And that is a really sad
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  Speaker 3: place to be within society, that you're nervous to give
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  Speaker 3: someone a compliment.
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  Speaker 4: But when I saw this, and I thought.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't it just so refreshing to see to your point, Freyer,
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  Speaker 3: that all he wants to support Queensland drink four x,
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  Speaker 3: but not to be woke. And you compare it to
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  Speaker 3: last year there was that story of someone who was
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  Speaker 3: applying for a job and there was on the drop
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  Speaker 3: down menu of what gender you were and there were
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  Speaker 3: thirty three different options. You'd see that and go running
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  Speaker 3: for the hills for a workplace like that. So it's
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  Speaker 3: nice to see that we're going to change that tide
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  Speaker 3: and bring fun back to the workplace and remove all
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  Speaker 3: this wokeness, cancel culture.
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  Speaker 4: I think everyone's just had enough.
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  Speaker 1: I know, and I wish. Do you watch mad Min?
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  Speaker 1: Did you like mad Min?
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  Speaker 4: I didn't watch mad Oh no, have.
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  Speaker 1: You watched mad Min? What's Wrong with These People? Anyway?
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  Speaker 2: Had been great, great series, but it's about an advertising
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  Speaker 2: agency in the sixties. And I'm always terribly jealous when
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  Speaker 2: I watch Madmin because they're there, you know, in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of the day, having a meeting, sipping on a
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  Speaker 2: whiskey and.
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  Speaker 1: Just you know, bring a bit of this back.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there are still workplaces where people It's why
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  Speaker 2: I went into journalism, because you could sort of drink
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  Speaker 2: on the job. But you know, we've just lost fun.
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  Speaker 2: Bring back some fun in the world. And while we're
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  Speaker 2: at it, bring back the long lunch.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon. I reckon.
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  Speaker 4: There is no one's in the office anymore. That's the problem.
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  Speaker 4: The long lunch is gone.
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  Speaker 3: The Friday after work drinks, none of that happens because
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  Speaker 3: everyone's working from home.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And there is a correlation, I reckon between like
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  Speaker 2: the degradation of Western civilization and the death of the
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  Speaker 2: long lunch. It's just a concurrent line with both.
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  Speaker 5: And people are too worried if you socialize outside of
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  Speaker 5: the offices, anything you say in that social environment can
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  Speaker 5: still be used against you in a professional workplace, and
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  Speaker 5: so people just go, why take the risk? Managers run
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  Speaker 5: for the hills. Hi says, you can't do it. And
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  Speaker 5: that's how corporate culture does.
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  Speaker 3: The riot Act that's always read to before the Christmas party.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I should note though that a lot of this,
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  Speaker 2: like some of it is driven just by woke corporations,
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  Speaker 2: but a lot of it now is driven by the law.
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  Speaker 2: And like employees have no choice but to get really
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  Speaker 2: harsh on this stuff, particularly under the Alban easy government.
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  Speaker 2: They've like the regulations and employers now have to actively
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  Speaker 2: ask you if there's anything wrong. It's not good enough
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  Speaker 2: to come and report something if when it have like
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  Speaker 2: it's just beyond the pile.
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  Speaker 4: I think no, I agree.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's turn our attention now to the BBC who
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  Speaker 3: have issued an apology after introducing coverage of Holocaust Memorial
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  Speaker 3: Day without referring to the murder of Jews. The omission
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  Speaker 3: has been described as hurtful, disrespectful and wrong. John Kay
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  Speaker 3: introduced the report on BBC Breakfast on Tuesday, saying Holocaust
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  Speaker 3: Memorial Day was for remembering the six million people murdered
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  Speaker 3: by the Nazi regime over eighty years ago, and the
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  Speaker 3: failure of reference of Jews is The introduction follows controversies
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  Speaker 3: over its coverage of anti Semitism Israel and the conflict
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  Speaker 3: in Gaza. And I just feel as though this is
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  Speaker 3: such an insult to those who lost their lives, but
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  Speaker 3: also the Jewish community who continue to feel the effects
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  Speaker 3: of the Holocaust decades on. But also it plays into
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  Speaker 3: the hands of those who have that narrative where they're
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  Speaker 3: trying to rewrite history.
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  Speaker 4: And so for me.
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  Speaker 3: That's always a really big issue, and I just think
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  Speaker 3: it's incredibly disrespectful and just so hurtful at a time
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  Speaker 3: that the Jewish community really needs everyone to be rallying
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  Speaker 3: around them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Annie, you can't say in the Holocaust, just this universal
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  Speaker 5: experience that just happened to happen to some people in Europe.
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  Speaker 5: They just buy chance, you know, ended up in gas
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  Speaker 5: chambers or getting slaughtered. No, this was specifically against Jews.
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  Speaker 5: We actually have a compilation of you from the BBC
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  Speaker 5: coverage and you will notice Jews are not mentioned at all.
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  Speaker 1: Holocaust Memorial Day a day for remembering the six million
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  Speaker 1: people who were murdered by the Nazi regime over eighty
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  Speaker 1: years ago.
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  Speaker 6: A day for remembering the six million people who were
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  Speaker 6: murdered by the Nazi regime.
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  Speaker 2: The six million people who were murdered by the Nazi regime.
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  Speaker 5: Now, this is not the first time we've seen this
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  Speaker 5: trend of people being unwilling to singularly call out anti Semitism.
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  Speaker 5: I think we saw a similar thing with the government
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  Speaker 5: who for basically two years couldn't say anti Semitism without
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  Speaker 5: also saying Islamophobia. If you are unable to talk about discrimination,
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  Speaker 5: to talk about genocide against Jewish people and Jewish people alone,
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  Speaker 5: that in itself is anti Semitic. We don't talk about
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  Speaker 5: the Armenian genocide and go, oh, but what about everyone else,
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  Speaker 5: what about the Turks? You know, No, we don't do
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  Speaker 5: that to anyone else. We shouldn't do it to Jewish
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  Speaker 5: people either.
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  Speaker 2: I think was at ITN or Channel four got caught
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: out doing the same thing in the UK last year,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: so you'd think they would have learnt their lesson by now.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: And we should note as well that Jade Vance, the
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Vice President of the United States, essentially pulled the same thing.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: He put up a tweet about Holocaust Remembrance Day and
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: he said, today we remember the millions of lives lost
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: during the Holocaust, the millions of stories of individual bravery
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: and heroism, and one of the enduring lessons of one
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: of the darkest chapters in human history that while humans
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: create beautiful things and are full of compassion, were also
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: capable of unspeakable brutality. And we promise never again to
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: go down the darkest path. You know, fair enough, but
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: again there's no mention of who was actually killed in
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: the Holocaust. Surely it's not hard just to say what
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: he is like right in front of you, unless you
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: deliberately want to exclude that because you don't want to
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: acknowledge in the political climate of what has happened over
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: the last couple of years, who the actual victims were.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: And what's the point of marking it if you can't
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: acknowledge you the victims.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: Well exactly, And that's what's so disappointing. You're leaving out
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: a very key word, and that is Jews. They were
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: the ones that were killed during the Holocaust and have
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: faced horrific anti semitism, and everyone should be fighting what's
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: going on with antisemitism and not ignoring it.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Now over to the US, where more of these anti
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: ice freaks as I keep referring to them, because they ah,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, these people are just absolutely bizarre. You would
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: have seen footage we've been showing you for weeks now
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: of people out toting guns trying to keep ice agents. These,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: of course, the people who are rounding up illegal immigrants
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: in the United States, trying to keep them out of neighborhoods,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: going around harassing people driving white SUVs that look like
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: they might be ice cars, but they're not actually ice
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: agents whatsoever. And we have another ripper for you tonight.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: A nurse who was until very recently she's not now
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: you'll find out why. Working at a Virginia Commonwealth University,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: she has suggested that people should unleash biological warfare upon
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: ice AGTs.
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: Get on tender, get on ten and to find these
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: guys they're around, they're an ice agent. Bring some exlax
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: and put it in their drinks. Anybody got any poison ivy,
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: poison oak in their yard, get some of that up
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: with gloves, obviously, get it in some water. All the
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: medical providers. Grab some syringes with needles on the end,
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: have them full of ceiling or sucks and on coin,
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: you know whatever.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Whatever. Now.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Look, she may well argue that she was doing it
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: in a joking tone, but you know what the problem
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: is that when you have the levels of violence that
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: we have seen around these ice raids in recent weeks,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: you don't go around saying things like that, and you
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: should expect that you're either going to be arrested or
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: lose your job. And she has now lost her job,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: thank heavens. It's not exactly the sort of person you
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: want as a nurse going around suggesting that you should
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: be causing harm to others. I think that sort of
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: goes against the hippocratic oath. And the other thing we've
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: seen with ICENIL is that they're going to take a
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: couple of ice agents over to the Winter Olympics in
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Italy which kick off next month, and they will be
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: there as guards for the Vice President JD. Vance and
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: the Secretary of State Marco Rubio. But now they're protesting
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: in Italy and saying don't let ice in here. And
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: they're all waving around these banners saying, oh, you know,
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: ice murder people.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, for goodness sake, the.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Madness around this, and we should acknowledge that Trump is
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: overnight changing his tune a little bit about what's happened
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: in Minnesota and instead of recognizing that things have not
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: gone as well as they should have. But the madness
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: from these anti ice people and the way they've conducted themselves,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: and then for that to go overseas as well as
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: just unbelievable.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: It is unbelievable.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: And it's also unbelievable that all too typical that the
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: radical left consistently resorts to violence and now even nurses.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, we've had our own dramas in Australia with
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: healthcare professionals threatening violence against patients based on their background.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: But in this case, to actually incite violence and tell
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: people to go out with syringers and hunt down ICE agents.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: That is just disgusting and.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: Repulsive and shows you the level of hatred that ICE
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: is up against. And it also makes no sense because
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: I think I said this a couple nights ago on
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: the Late debate. Obama deported over three million people. Tom
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: Homan this same man who was in charge of deportations
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: under Obama. He was awarded a presidential award for his
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: work in deporting people. He is the same person that
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: is the head of ICE for Trump. He's doing the
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: exact same thing. There were no protests when Obama did that,
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: but there are so many now because it's not about
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: law and order, it's not about illegal migrants. This is
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: about destroying the Trump administration, sowing discord in the United States,
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: and genuinely stoking violence.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: That's what they want.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: That is what these radical leftists and agitators want.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: They want violence and destruction.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: It's going to be interesting over in Rome. I've just
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: been reading some of the reports that have been coming
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: out of the American embassy over in Rome, and they've
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: made it very clear that they're not going to be
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: conducting any immigration enforcement, which you would think makes sense
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: when they're not in they're not Italian, but they have
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: said that it's the investigative branch that's going to be
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: on the ground. They're going to be protecting JD. Evans
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: and Marco Rubio. But also they made it clear and
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: they said, look, federal agencies have worked at previously big games,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: so they are no different. But it will be not
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: the responsible for immigration controls. And the whole point there
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: is to make sure that they and Italy can avoid
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: transnational criminal organizations. They're saying, we're here to help we
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: just want to help you. But the media has really
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: revd this up. And Italy are very concerned about the
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: deaths that they've seen in the US and the rise
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: in all of the street protests, and they're concerned that
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: that's what's going to come to Italy. But I just
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: think it's going crazy. I don't know if Trump should
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: be sending ICE agents over there, but you can understand
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: why J. D. Evans and Marco Rubio would been needing support.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Screulers like the do they really think a foreign mob
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: that deals with security in their country is going to
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: come over to Italy and what they're going to start
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: reporting in legal migrants from Italy like they don't.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Have the jurisdiction to do it.
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Maybe they think they're just going to come along and
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: just goto, Like, honestly, come on, they're just there to
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: work as security for foreign dignitaries, to whip that up
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: into some sort of problem in Italy. It is just
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: grasping its straws because again, like the people at home
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: in the UIs, they're just desperate to use anything they
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: can to try and score a point against Trump.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: And also it's politically motivated because of course their leader
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: is Georgie Maloney, who is a conservative very close with Trump,
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: and this is being weaponized by leftist parties to attack
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: her and attack the Trump administration, which is against Italy's
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: national interest. But whatever, nothing about the anti ice hysteria
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: makes much sense at all. But something else that also
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: doesn't make sense is the levels of entanglement that some
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: academics and university research programs have with our largest strategic
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: threat and competitor which is China. It's now been revealed
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: that the head of the A and u's satellite program
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: this has been funded in the order of over one
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: hundred and eighty million dollars.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: His name is Nan Yang. He's the head of the
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: satellite program.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: He has also co authored five technical research papers with
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: scientists from the People Liberation Army's Engineering University. That is
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: the university that is doing all of the engineering for
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: the People Liberations Army, which is China's army. He also
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: got his PhD at one of China's strategic defense linked universities.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: Now this is not the first time we've seen this
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: happen where you have collaboration between Australia and Chinese researchers
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: on sensitive technologies. But for him to be the head
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: of a satellite program in Australia and then authoring papers
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: with defense linked academics in China raises serious questions. There
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: was a parliamentary inquiry back in twenty twenty one, I
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: believe into foreign interference at our universities and these kinds
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: of collaborations were explicitly warned about. And the problem is
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: a lot of this technology you can justify the research
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: component because you can say, well, it's just for civilian use,
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: but when you're talking about satellites communications, well that can
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: very easily be switched from civilian use to military use.
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: But the question is, Caleb, how does this keep on happening?
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Well, either we don't take enough care, or there is
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: perhaps not terribly incorrect thinking that we've let them infiltrate
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: everything else.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Anyway, so who cares if it happens in defense?
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: We should note that that the Professor Yang is not
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: accused of any wrongdoing in this case. But it's a
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: matter of principle about whether or not you should have
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: people who are doing work for foreign defense agencies, particularly
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: ones that would be your biggest military adversary if we
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: were to end up in a war, presumably in the
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: form of China, also doing work for your country, because
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: he would obviously have knowledge of what is happening in China,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: certainly to do with the projects that he has worked on,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: and then he also has knowledge of the projects that
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: he is working on in Australia. So how much cross
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: pollination do you actually want to have in these circumstances.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Surely there's a sort of sovereign information that you would
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: want to keep to yourself. He may well have signed
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: contracts to that end. But still we are talking about defense.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: But we've already let China into so many other aspects
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: that really are important to this country. We were talking
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: was last week about these Yuton buses that are here
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: in Australia, and they've now been investigated in the UK.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: They've been investigated in Sweden. I think it might have
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: been Denmark as well, all of which have found that
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: they can be remotely disabled. They've got kill switches in them.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: We know that foreign Chinese solar infrastructure has come with
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: chips in it that we didn't previously know we're there.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I think it was the US that discovered that, right.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: We banned Huawei from being part of the telecommunications when
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: we were setting up five G here in Australia. So
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: we know that there is an issue with China being
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: involved in important things, and yet something as basic as
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: this which look Professor Yang may be the best in
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: the country, but if you have done or are doing
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: work for China, surely you just get a red line
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: through your name.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this article and incidents that have obviously happened in
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: the past, it does just pose the question about the
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: need for tougher scrutiny on individuals who have certain research
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: ties and then taking on sensitive programs like defense. So
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: it really just blows over the fact that we just
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: need to be more heavily scrutinizing people who are doing
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: research projects in particular, as you mentioned defense. Well, let's
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: head over now to Victoria and this is a I
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: guess an interesting story in terms of a new fee
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: that's coming in and this is the city of Melbourne there.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: It's a congestion busting bin tax and could actually send
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: recycling backwards and that's what the industry is warning. So
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: the new collection fee is said to come into effect
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: from the first of July, and this is going to
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: see waste collectors build three seven hundred and fifty dollars
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: per truck for a permit to pick up rubbish and
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: recycling in the council area. While there would be discounts
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: for dedicated recycling vehicles, industry figures have warned that waste
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: operators will then pass on their cost to the clients
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: and of course small businesses will then not be able
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: to bear this additional cost and they will then put
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: all of their rubbish just into the one bin anyway.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: And the other concern is also you're going to be
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: removing competition within the market as well, because the smaller
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: waste management companies won't be able to take on this
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: new cost, so they will ultimately leave as well. What
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: is interesting too, though, is Victoria recently launched the rebate scheme.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: It was about eight and a half million dollars on
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: top of it thirteen and a half million where they
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: had a task force because Victoria has a really big
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: issue in illegal dumping. They have more reports of illegal
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: dumping than the rest of the country combined, so it
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: is a problem there. It's more so in the construction
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: waste is what this was sort of framed around. But
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: you would think that what this council is doing in
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: the city City of Melbourne, putting in this congestion tax
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: and more bills for the waste disposal, that it's going
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: to be going against what Victoria's goal is of trying
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: to remove illegal dumping, trying to clean it up.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: I was reading that and I thought, you're going against
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: what the premiere wants to do, and you are going
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: to add more costs to doing.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Business in the city. Sydney.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: The dumping one, I think is a case of you
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: report you so you know, you turn your state into
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: a dump and people treat it like a dump.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: So that may well explain that.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: But I think this story is hilarious because of course
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: the idea of a congestion tax is to get cars
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: and in this case, trucks off the road.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: So we've got too many trucks coming into the.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: City, which causes emissions and it clogs up the streets
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: and all this sort of stuff. So we'll bring in
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: a text to discourage the rubbish trucks coming in, which
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: is good for the environment, you see, And then people
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: go all the stuff they're recycling, I'll just put it
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: all in the rubbish bin, so only one truck has
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: to come and collect my gear.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's worse for the environment, is it not?
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: What a great home goal.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: Look I'm going to make a confession. I've always been
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: putting it in the one bin.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Look.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Look, I want to know these days where this recycling,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: alleged recycling actually ends up, because it all used to
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: go on shipping containers and get sent to China. And
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: then you might remember China's Sword, which is five more
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: than five years ago, where they just stop taking all
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: of our recycling, a lot of it must still be
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: ending up in landfill.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, definitely. Look, and I will say I do
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: try to recycle, but if I have to go out
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: of my way of taking the labels off the containers
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: and separating the lids, that's way too much. But speaking
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: of unsustainable waste management, a lot of the landfills in
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: New South Wales are going to be full by twenty thirty.
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: So the state government's released some new sites where they're
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: going to trial actually burning waste and converting it into energy.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: So if you live in any of the following areas,
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: lucky you you're going to be at the forefront of
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: waste management innovation. West Lithgo Parks, Richmond Valley and Southern
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: Golban Mull Worry. I think personally it's a great idea.
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: If you've got this waste sitting around and you can
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: burn it, why not you do generate electric city that way,
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: And we need a lot more of that in our grid.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I think they do it in They've been doing it
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: for a long time.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: In Singapore, right and in the UK and Franz.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and because all the locals are jumping up and
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: down and going oh and be breathing in all the
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: rubbish smoke, but the ones in Singapore, because there was
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: a guy I remember when I was still in Adelaide,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: so we're talking like five or six years ago, wanted
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: to get one of these things going, and I read
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: all of his material and.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Like, allegedly, the air that comes.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Out of the top of the flu is cleaner than
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: most of the air that you're breathing in just walking
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: down the street anyway, breathing in carfumes and all this stuff,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: because they filter it all the way up.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: So if you can burn the rubbish.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: So it doesn't contaminate the ground, because of course landfill
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: once you fill it up, I mean, that's just dead land.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: You can't do anything with it after that. You can't
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: remediate it, and everything takes so long to break down,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: and you can turn it into energy at the same time.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, it kind of seems like a no brainer
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: to me.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: We also do need to find a solution because once
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: that landfill is at capacity, it's going to cost a
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: lot of money to be able to have our waste management.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: So cost are going to continue to go up for
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: households and businesses, and yes, residents are concerned about toxic emissions,
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: but hopefully they can have feel a little bit better
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: about the situation knowing that in the UK they have
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: more than sixty and it's in downtown Paris, three of
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: them that have these in there. So if it's right
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: in the middle of downtown Paris, I think we could
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: be okay out in the country.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Absolutely get over it.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: And also, by the way, just stop buying so much crap.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: People buy so much garbage at LEAs fast fashion all
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: stuff they throw out, like you know, people just don't
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: keep things anymore to be fair is well, but they
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: don't make things that last anymore unfortunately.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: But should come and have a.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Look at all radios at my place or at least
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: seventy years old, and they're all still working very.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Quickly before we get to a break.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: You might have seen over in the tennis Coco Gaff
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: who was play Elena Swittelina and lost overnight, had a
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: little hissy fit after the match, and I can totally
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: understand why, because you lose a serious tennis match and
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: it's high stake stuff, right, so you've got a bit
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: of energy to let out, and she did her best
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: to get out of the way of the cameras before
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: she had her spat, but failed to do so. So
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: it's raised the question do they actually get watched too much?
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Here?
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: She is I tried to go somewhere where they wouldn't
• 35:34
  Speaker 7: broadcast it, but obviously they did. So Yeah, maybe there's
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: some conversations we can be had because I feel like
• 35:41
  Speaker 7: at this tournament the only private place we have is
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: the locker room.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Maybe they need like one of these rage rooms, you know,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: those things that people go and tear stuff apart.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Fair enough, I reckon yeah, But.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: At the same time, look, part of what's so entertaining
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: about sport are the meltdowns and the dramas, why players
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: like Curious is so popular. So look, I think, yes,
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: I understand her frustration as an athlete, but makes for
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: good TV.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: No, But I do feel sorry for her here because
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Cocoa GoF has always been someone that likes to be
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: very composed on the court. She gets very angry inside
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: and she doesn't want to be slamming her racket down
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: on the court in front of children. So she then
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: wanted to just go away from her team, so she
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: doesn't lash out at them, go into a place where
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: she can just whack that racket, because I think the
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: racket contributed to her loss was too tight. So she's
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: whacking getting it all out, and unfortunately it was filmed.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: But they need to have somewhere where athletes can go
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: and have a moment like that. And if you've got
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: a male coaching team, they can't come into the locker
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: room with you, so there's nowhere for you to unleash
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: in that aspect, and so I actually felt really sorry
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: for her.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Fair enough, after the break we will get into the
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: papers the hospital where maggots are falling from the air conditioning.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: So I don't know to stand awful, Well, it doesn't
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: sound awful, it is awful.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: More on that after the break.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Time to have a look at tomorrow's news tonight, starting
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: with the advertiser Forrayer.
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: Yes, the headline on the front of the advertiser is
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: obviously referring to the inflation figures we got out today.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: Home loan hell, big spender jym blamed for rates pain.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: Out of control government spending is being blamed for dire
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: inflation figures that have made an interest rate rise. Next
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: week all but certain in what economists have branded bad
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: news for households and businesses, But Treasury Jim Charmers says
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: he's not to blame. Now, the inflation figures have jumped
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: up to three point seven percent year on year was
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: three point two percent. That is a large increase. Remember
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: the RBA's target ban for inflation is two to three percent,
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: so we're now well above that target and that means
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: a rate rise next week most likely. And this is
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: the I guess the hypocrisy at this center of it.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: Jim Chalmers bragged about a soft landing. We can have
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: our subsidies, we can keep spending, we can give everyone
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: all these handouts and that'll ease the cost of living pressure.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: But of course, what economists have warned about this whole
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: time is that all you're doing is actually adding to
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: inflation and making that stick around longer because you're pumping
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: billions and billions of dollars into the economy. So ultimately
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: you could argue households will actually be worse off because
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: we're all going to be paying higher mortgages and that's
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: basically because of government spending.
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: But we'll be paying off this debt well into those.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: On Poor Murray's show.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: I believe tonight that up until twenty sixty, which is
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: just unbelievable, and I just can't believe he constantly stands
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: up their treasure, Jim Chalmers saying it's not my fault.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: I'm not to blame, and.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: All of this essentially to stop us from going into
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: the actual recession that you know, on paper we haven't
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: been in, but in reality we have been in. And
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I also want to note on the front of the
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: ties of there you might have seen the image neck
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: to the splash where it's got a head of state
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: and nation Travis Head, of course, to captain Australia in
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: T twenty clash against Pakistan.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: How good is Travis Head?
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: He is the hero Australian beads right now, I reckon
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: and a good south was he to boot on the
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: front of the Australian Tomorrow diplomat dictates terms play by
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: China's rules or Beijing will torpedo trade again. Jeez, it's
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: a groundhog day these stories, isn't it. China's top official
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: in Australia says the g regime could withdraw substantive investments
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: should labor pursue its election promise to take back the
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: port of Darwin, as he said Beijing would quote take
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: measures to protect its business interests abroad. The threat was
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: made by China's ambassador to Canberra, who sought to send
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: a clear message to the Australian government that risk disrupting
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: quote steady progress in improving the bilateral relationship by pursuing
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: a review of the ninety nine year long land bridge
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: lease and raising U shoes over the quote Taiwan question.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: But as he signed a wide ranging energy, trade and
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: security partnership with these Team Moor Anthony Albanez, he said
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: he was committed to ending the lease and putting in
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: a local operator. Just keep that page up there for
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: a moment, because I just want to note how hard
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: does that photo go? These Team More's president there in
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: the back of the car behind the Prime Minister. PM's
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: got his tongue poken out and he's just lit up
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: a dart. That's a fantastic photograph, I think. But back
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: to the story about China. You know, he's just a
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: thug in a suit. The ambassador are basically threatening us saying, oh, well,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: you know, you take back the port of dar on
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: a major strategic asset that we should never have given
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: a ninety nine year lease to the Chinese on anyway,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: thank you, Malcolm Turnbull will come back for retribution.
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: Oh it's terrible, and this is just another reason why
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: Australia urgently needs to diversify our trade away from China.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: We need to dig couple our supply chains, we need
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: to be less reliant on their economy. I know that's
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: really hard, and all the economists out there will go, oh,
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: that's impossible, but it's a national security risk at this point.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: If we cannot make national security decisions that are important
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: for our sovereignty and our security, like taking back the
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: Port of Darwin because we are so afraid of potential
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: tariffs or retribution from China, we are compromised. We are
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: not a sovereign nation at that point. So this is disgraceful.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: I will be interested to see how Anthony Albanezi does
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: handle this situation because he has got quite a close
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: relationship with Gigiping. We saw him have that five day
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: trip over in China last year and he has said
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: that we are all very good friends. But he has
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: said in his paper that we are committed to making
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: sure that the port goes back into Australian hands. So
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: let's see how he goes in this and stands up.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I don't think he ever really meant to do it, because,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: of course, remember he announced it on Darwin Radio to
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: sort of usap the fact that Dutton was going to
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: announce that he takes get back.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: So well, look, he.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Might have painted himself into a corner here. Another story
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: on the front of the US tomorrow. Liberal elders step
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: in as Lee ignored. National's leader David little Proud has
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: knocked back a meeting with Susan Lee as she attempts
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: to revive the coalition as Liberal elders intervene in the
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: party's leadership. Stashed before a crunch face to face meeting
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: between Conservatives Andrew Hasty and Angus Taylor, mister Little Proud's
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: staff told the opposition leader that he was too busy
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: to meet with her ahead of Parliament returning next week,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: as he was focusing on a largely unendorsed leadership challenge
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: by Flynn MP Colin Boyce. The ongoing silence between the
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: former coalition leaders comes as liberally MP's expect mister Hasty
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: and mister Taylor to hold an in person meeting in
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Melbourne on Thursday morning to work on striking a deal
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: that would see Conservatives you Knight behind one candidate to
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: challenge Miss Lee, which is of course what they need
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: to do. But you know, the madness just rolls on.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, they You've got the whole business about leadership
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: in the Nationals, which is nothing's going to change there.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: It's just matter which way you look at it. Every
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: day there's just another myths.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Which is the problem.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: It is driving me insane that at a time when
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: we need a strong opposition to be holding this labor
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: government to account, it's not happening because they're too busy
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: fighting amongst themselves. So I think at this point we're
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: going to probably need just a fresh leadership on both
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: the Liberals and the Nats because by the sounds of this,
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: the fact that David Little Proud is too busy to
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: go and meet with Susan Lee thinks says it all.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: And the funny thing is this article also goes on
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: to say that factional operators like Christopher Pine, who was
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: obviously a Member of Parliament from South Australia, is now
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: texting around the moderates saying stick with miss Lee.
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: She hasn't done anything wrong.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: Okay, well she's only shed a third of Liberal voters.
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: They've abandoned the party in under a year. Polling is
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: a historic lows. I mean, yeah, she may not have
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: personally done anything egregious, but the accumulative the results of
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: our effort as leader are pretty dismal.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: It is sad because I did think, actually she was
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: starting to really look strong after net zero and BONDI,
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: and it's.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: All gone to cramp. As a couple more stories are
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: going to power through before we get to the break.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: One more on the front of the oars. Up to
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: three percent of all deaths are euthanasia. More than seven
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: two hundred people have dared using voluntary assisted dying since
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: it became legal in Australia in twenty nineteen, including three
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: thy three hundred and twenty nine last financial year alone.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: The wrap it uptake means between one and three percent
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: of all deaths in our VAD, with advocates saying that
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: will grow. Queensland leads the way, recording twenty one hundred
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: and ten total VAD deaths despite to the option becoming
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: available there only in January twenty twenty three, So clearly
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: there's been a major interest in uptake.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Let's say now to the Newcastle Herald and on the
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: front page his poor performance Coalition demands the Martyr Mold
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: and maggot inquiry. New south Welles Shadow Health Minister will
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: call for a parliamentary inquiry into the horrific conditions at
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: the Cavalry Marta Hospital, as Nurses rallied yesterday to demand change.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: The hospital closed two wards earlier this month due to
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: dangerous mold in the air conditioning ducks and maggots falling
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: from the air conditioning vents onto patients. And this has
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: put the Marter's public private partnership in the spotlight.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: What horrific conditions to be?
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: Imagine lying in your hospital better maggots fall out of
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: the air conditioning onto you.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: It's just like it's just the most basic stuff. How
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: can they not keep on top of this?
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: After the break?
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: If you thought maggots in hospitals was bad, they just
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: launched the brand new aquatic center in Adelaide, Well what
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: did they find in the pool?
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: That's coming up next?
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: The brand new aquatic Center in Adelaide has opened, and
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: of course the exciting thing. They could have had it
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: for zero dollars because the Adelaide Crows offered to build
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: one for them if they got to do their training
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: on the oval next door, but the adela City council
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: said no to that, so they had to get to
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: the council in the state government to build it.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: That's a side issue. But they've opened up the brand
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: new aquatic.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Center in Adelaide and people were excited to get into
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: the water until they weren't allowed in the water anymore
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: because it turns out in the toddler pool that there
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: was a little floaty. Within hours, apparently someone had allegedly
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: taken a dump in the swimming pool. Like it's going
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: to be like your worst night meeting.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: He is swimming along and there it is, right.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: That is that a little long?
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: It's I believe we may have some vision of it
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: here That was from Caddy Check, not actually from the
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Adelaida quatics team, but still that's what I imagine it
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: was something like that.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: You know, that's really funny the amount of times I've
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: seen things like that. When I used to assuming that's
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: the real kids pools, They're just freaking out.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: It does happen and sometimes in the adult pool too. Well,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: let's head over now to Italy, where.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: You're not the one who's done in the adult that's
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: very left field.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: How do you know, Jamie, because I was as simming coach. Oh,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: so you witnessed it, Yes.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: I wasn't me doing it in the pool.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to clarify.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: I'm glad you did because people at home might have
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: been wondering the same thing, so thank you.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: That would have been awful.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: Let's head now to Italy where this incredible vision has
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: come out of a town in Sicily. It's been a
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: four kilometer landslide and a thousand people have had to
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: There's been no injuries or deaths reported, thankfully, but this
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: happened on Sunday and they are estimating that the damage
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: of this bill is going to be Australian one point
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: two billion dollars. So you can see it was all
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: sort of sliding down the southern hill and it's all
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: just perched there very carefully on the edge of the cliff.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: It would be so scary if they're watching your town
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: slide down.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Speaking of things, that it would make you crap your deck.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: So imagine if you were living in one of those houses.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: Rather than no, pretty scary.
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: Well, something else that's scary is imagine someone asking you
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: to buy them a car on a first date. That's
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: what happened to this Melbourne ceo. He was having a
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: date with a girl he met online on a dating app.
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: Everything was going well, dinner wrapped up, he paid, it
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: was a great gentleman. And then she pulls out her phone,
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: turns it around and says, would you buy me this car? No, like,
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: actually buy me this car. The car was ninety thousand
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: dollars and she just acted like that was a totally
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: normal requests on a first date. I want to know
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: did he give her a second date?
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: People wonder what's wrong with the dating scene at the moment,
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: and I think that just sums it up.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Do you know what?
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: I blame only fans, because only fans content creators are
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: often bought cars.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: Look, I've always given the professional advice to people you
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: don't ask, you don't get, but there may be are
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: circumstances where that does not apply. Thank you so much
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: for watching it tonight. That's it from us, coming up
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: next to The Rita Paney Show.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Goodnight,