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Episode 158: WNBA vs Misogyny · Play 4 Keeps Podcast

• Greg: Chats are the redacted man. You got some funny guys. Welcome back to another episode of the Play for Geeks podcast, the only podcast where we do something different every single day. Not an hour, not an episode. This is a daily thing. It is a daily thing. Shout out to the guys. Shout out to the subscribers, the people that, you know, donate. Speaking of donate. Donation. Donation. Lock in. Here we go. sure you like, comment, subscribe down below. And we're gonna do something different with the We Do Not Cares. Normally, we ramble. We talk about our We Do Not Cares and low-key care about them. Today, I put an end to it. Today, I put an end to us caring about the We Do Not Cares. Welcome to the timer. We have a timer. If it don't get talked within this seven minute and 30 seconds, it just won't get talked about because once again, we do not care. We do not care. We do not care. right. First things first, the World Cup and its corruption. Who would have thought if you all were been, you know, under a rock after the World Cup, this guy, the director, Gianni Infantino, Jax: Infantino, I think. Greg: Infantino, director of FIFA. had the great idea of saying, hey, let's let's sell, let's sell this. Let's sell this to some private equity kind of guys. You know what mean? This is not just for the world. Yeah, you know, like I Jax: That always does, that always works well for people when you sell to private equity. Greg: make more money. Other people make more money. It should all work out right and wrong. Mad niggas disagreed. Mad niggas said, fuck no. I think 90 countries off rip said we were not participating in this Tom bullshit foolery. It became such a. bad idea and such a hoopla that this nigga had to backtrack and say, it's like, just kidding, I'm retracting. You I was just trying to do what was best for everyone. Mainly my pockets, but everyone. Jax: Exactly. Greg: And just wanted to let y'all know, we see you. You're not getting away with it. It's funny because niggas from other countries talk shit about Donald Trump, but they move just like that nigga. They do the same things. as a Donald Trump Jax: Amen. Greg: when it comes to this money and corruption, but yet you talk shit about them. I don't support any of that, but your complaint. Jax: For what? I'm like, for what it's worth. He's the only the president of FIFA, not a whole country. He can't send niggas to war. Greg: for sure. Like, I understand it, but it just it just seems like a corrupt niggas complaints fall on deaf ears when you're doing similar type of corruptions, even if it's on a smaller scale. Shut up and dribble. Actually put the ball down. You're not doing a good job at that either. You know what mean? Next fucking next fucking slide. James Harden versus Moses Malone, Jr. Mind you. Didn't even know Moses Malone Jr. was a real, in fact, human being. Jax: Didn't know Moses had a junior, shout out Greg: Did not know he had a junior. Did not know. Moses Malone Jr. A Houston legend by the way. Houston legend by the way. Not junior but Moses Malone. Jax: I was gonna be like, is he? But in content, you're content. Greg: Well, should he said he might be alleged after this story, the guy ain't gonna hold you. So basically what's going on? Moses Malone Jr. was on a podcast is that Hall of Famer Moses Malone. This beef between him and James Harden started off because he got on the Internet, Moses Malone Jr. and said, hey, I think it's bullshit that James Harden is charging $280. for these little basketball camps that he has in the city acting like he need this money. Like, yo, like really, really come to the community for real. What the fuck? $300 for some camp and you low key kind of bullshit or whatever. he's basically kind of speaking up for the, know, to get it out the mud Jax: Of course. Greg: type of basketball connoisseur. know what mean? James Harden didn't take too kind of this. James Harden didn't like him vocally saying that. So the next time that James Harden saw Moses Malone Jr. at the club, only see that, you know, you only see James Harden at the club. You don't see that in the world. Either the gym or the club. You don't see him nowhere else. Jax: to our Greg: His goons are they're saying he's saying his goons pressed him. He thought it was just going to be a pressing. James Harden's entourage, where the fuck he's rolling beat the shit out of Moses Malone, Jr. Whooped his ass, jumped him. Jackson gets Jax: What? Greg: worse. Jackson gets worse. They had that nigga James Harden on FaceTime watching this shit. to make sure the job was being done. That's what I meant when it comes to the Terry and Arnold type of stuff. But now, I would say this is speculation. This is coming from Moses Malone, Jr. This is from his account, from his point of view. Now, obviously, we're not going to hear James Harden's side of this, because one, he's not going to self-incriminate, and two, he's just going to talk about, hey, keep the main thing the main thing. Basketball season is right around the corner. jacks your thoughts. Jax: all this because he said should charge Greg: Ha ha! Jax: it should be cheaper like what seems like a lot but what do i know seems like you're doing too much but what do i know you know Greg: like damn nigga. Mind you 13 was wasn't a restaurant 13 was still available like this other money avenues like. Jax: Yeah, I don't, he can buy a can. Greg: He could have saved camp. Jax: Or the address. He can buy both of them, shoot. Greg: God damn. Instead of exploiting children. That was crazy. But like, you know, like we said, we don't care. We do not. Damn. We do not care. Next slide. Shout out to the Cleveland Sirens, the new WNBA basketball team that's going to happen. I don't know if it's going to be in 2027 or 2028, but they had a nice little presentation. Apparently, sirens are like a popular thing in Cleveland. That's like a thing that they do. A lot of sirens happen. is look. This is just from my sources. I can't I can't confirm or deny. Cleveland Jax: Nice. Greg: used to have a WNBA team. They used to be called the Cleveland Rockers. They were there from 97 to like 2003, a very short Jax: Another week guys. Greg: period of time. But I'm not mad at I'm not mad at the rebrand. I'm not mad at the at the brand. It seems like it might be a dope color scheme. Can't go wrong with blue. Jax: Yeah, I heard. I don't know if it was the owner or the coach. and they're coming in 2028, by the way, but I don't know if it was the owner of the coach Greg: Okay, 200. Jax: or somebody involved with the team. They're like, yeah, we wanted to do this whole siren thing and like really just get away from like the older rockers image and really get away from the calves image as well. Cause they're like, we don't want to be the lady cavaliers. We want to have our own thing. Greg: Mmm. Jax: Okay. That makes sense. Cause they are their own thing. So, I mean, we'll see what it is. I like, I like the name scheme and all that. So. Greg: OK, not too bad. We not. On this clock. Got to move on because we just do not care. Last lastly, last but not least, the Hall of Fame game just happened. Carson Beck versus that nigga Haynes was Haynes. Haynes King. Jax: Haynes, Haynes King. Haynes King, yes. Greg: First of all, Carson Beck was slinging the fuck out this rock. Jax: Yeah, no, this is the game of the year. Granted, the year just started technically. So it is the game of the year, but like, this is an amazing game. Greg: Most of the time the Hall of Fame game boring. You just throw it on just to say hey football is back. They earned their paychecks. Everybody earned a check. Just go around. Shout out to them and shout out to shout out to the Hall of Fame. Jax: Yeah, they earned that $1,000 or whatever they get for the game. No, was a good game. It was a really good game. And I'm Greg: Okay. Jax: very, very, very glad football season. Greg: First of all, I didn't even know that this shit made noise. Jax: Let's not do that again. Let's not. Greg: Yeah guess not. my god, that is not care. We do not care now remember we do something different every single day Not an hour not an episode. This is a daily thing Could come back it could not But we will be trying something now now let's really own in and Really get into the topics that we just really care about the stuff. We don't have to rush through And that's the baseball lockout and NSO special. Jax: Never thought we'd talk about baseball, did y'all? But no, Greg: Mmm Jax: baseball lockout is becoming more and more of a certainty. This is a quote from Jeff Passan who, that's not him pictured, but Jeff Passan is like a MLB writer. Everybody knows him in the industry, blah, blah. But he said, the MLB is not going to accept the salary cap for the new CBA and that more than likely means a lockout is going to happen. Now. Owners like right now in baseball, there's no salary cap, so owners can spend whatever they want on anybody they want. And that's why you see like who wasn't a was so though he got like that with seven, they get like 700. Yeah, he got 700. Greg: 700 years. Yeah, like seven hundred and thirty million show. Hey, the tour reviews like Jax: Dan Near Billion, like Sohey went crazy as well. Greg: Yeah, and he deferred his shit. He just furtished it 10 years. Jax: smart man, but like that's big issue with baseball because the Dodgers, their team, and also the Dodgers, just happened to trade for Tarek Scoobel, who's a pitcher from the, almost called him the Lions, but they're the Detroit Tigers. Yeah, that's their baseball team. And he won like the Greg: Yeah Detroit Tigers. Jax: Cy Young Award twice. He's a cold pitcher. He's young as well. And like they're able to get him for like... bag of chips and stuff like that and a lot of and they also paid him as well you know owners for other teams are mad because like the Dodgers owner who I should have figured out who that was but I feel like looking it up but he's one of the richest in rich owners in sports and so every time he wants a free agent or a trade to happen or whatever he just Pays crazy because he has the bread to do that. And a lot of other owners are getting upset because they're like, hey, this isn't fair. So this is why we need a salary cap. But players are like, no, we're not going for that because it's going to limit what we can make. And so it's a whole back and forth thing going on. And it's more than likely going to lead to a lockout. Because I think the. old CBA for baseball or whatever you want to call it. I think that expires in December. I could be very, very wrong, but I know it expires very soon. So yeah, it looks like there's going to be a lockout. don't, I can't remember when the last baseball lockout was, but this one, feels like if the MLBPA doesn't want to like acquiesce or anything like that, it feels like it could be like a year long thing, which is crazy, honestly. Greg: Yeah, I think from what I've learned and what I was, you know, privy to and shout out to Jeff Pass and he's really been kind of like locking in on this story. He was definitely on some like. The baseball lockout was going to happen regardless this year, it wasn't a matter of if it was a matter of how long this lockout was and the Dodgers traded for school ball definitely didn't help it not. It shortened, you know, niggas are definitely looking at that. You basically built in the Golden State Warriors for half the cost. That's that's and they just keep adding. Now, the caveats of this, the fact that the thing that's kind of made. the trade kind of cool off a bit is the fact that them niggas, I think the Dodgers have been like on a seven or eight game losing streak since their trade. So a lot of tempers have cooled down a bit because it's just like, okay, these niggas losing. They're still a formidable team. Like they're still, you Jax: Yeah. Greg: know, whatever, but imagine if these niggas was going undefeated and then add that nigga, you know, it's just, would have just added more to whatever. So if you ask the average Dodger person, They're going to say, hey, this is only happening because of the Houston Astros. Somehow it always ties back to the Houston Astros because people people believe that like we've gotten to this point when it comes to the salary cap and all this bullshit that the Dodgers are doing. Because the Astros didn't get properly punished in twenty seven for their cheating and because they didn't get properly done with their cheating, niggas just started saying a fuck it. We just gonna find we just gonna find ways to exercise. They're not necessarily breaking rules, but it's just the fact of like, OK, I don't give a fuck about this integrity shit or like the older the nature of this because you know, baseball has a lot of unwritten rules and shit. And the dog, Jax: Yeah. Greg: like one of the very few teams, they're like, man, I'll call this little unnecessary unhidden rules. If I want to pay a dollar for this nigga, I'll pay a dollar for this. 700 for this person and then defer and then defer the contract 10 years down the road so it doesn't even kick in during our prime window. We're going to do it if y'all don't have rules for it. We're just going to exploit the shit out of everything that we can do until y'all decide to place rules on it. Now when it comes to the salary cap stuff. Jackson be honest with you. Yeah. This might this might be a while because who who doesn't want to who doesn't want. to not have a salary cap. Like if you are the owner, if you're the owner, yeah, of course you want a salary cap. If you're a Jax: Yeah. Greg: yeah, nigga, you're not finna just put a salary cap after I done seen a nigga get 700 mil and I think I'm better than him. No, I want my 800 mil too. I want my, like, what's going on? So I Jax: I Greg: get it, but it's gonna be back and forth. Jax: The only like the downside to not having a salary cap though from a player standpoint is there was no salary cap. means there's also no salary floor. like you can get paid however like, however, I don't even know what I'm saying this right. My grandma probably messed up, but you can get paid however low as much as you want. I'm saying that completely wrong, like you get what I'm trying to say though, right? Like you can, yeah. Greg: Nah, I know what you're trying to say, for sure. Jax: So like you can, if the owner wants to pay you. $12 he can because there's no sound granted. It's never gonna happen. It's obviously extreme example, but like just saying like there's no floor So that's really another issue that I think the owners are gonna try to be like hey if we don't have a salary catch no salary flow I think they're gonna try to like highlight that and make it seem like a big issue and sort of is but Nobody's really thinking about the floor when you see people like you said making 700 million dollars, so I Don't really know how this is gonna end Well, actually, low key, this isn't gonna end with the owners getting what they want, because that's sort of what always happens with any of these negotiations, because they have all the money. But I don't know how long, you know, the fight will be. Greg: Yeah, I think it's going to I think it's going to seep in like well into next year. And I think if the Dodgers end up winning the whole thing this year, I think is going to like really people are really going to dig their heels on whatever stance they're on, because it's it's rare for any team to three P. But for the Dodgers to complete a three P after collecting top players like their Infinity Stones. Jax: gonna look like all the in things, you know? Greg: Yeah, niggas on both sides. Niggas are both going to be digging it. Now, if they end up losing the politics of it all, think people will just kind of like, it's kind of like, I don't even know the best way to describe it because I feel like the Warriors and the Raptors. That's not a fair comparison because them niggas literally like Jax: Yeah. Greg: died on the court. But I would say a sense of like the spur like when the Spurs like played the Nick like played the Knicks in the finals. And I feel like had the Spurs just dominated niggas and they ended up winning it all. The perception of like. Jax: You're starting a lot of... Greg: And with the perception of, my God, this is their league, like they first run, they winning it all. Jax: It would have gotten so, it would have been so many overreactions, so many teams doing so much crazy, like it would have been awful. Greg: Yeah. You're never like, yo, somebody got to go do something, bro. Like this shit is getting out of hand versus OK, you lose to the Knicks. Granted, people have their opinions about the Knicks in general. But it's OK. It kind of like tampered, you know, dampened the sale a little bit. And it's OK. We know when he's good. But like, all right, like, it's still a beatable team. Jax: He's still gonna live. Greg: They're still young. Like you can still continue the same thing with what's going on with the Dodgers. Let them niggas win this year. All hell gonna break loose. We gonna be deep into July and we not gonna see no big deal. We not. All right. But we'll definitely keep an eye on it. But it is as far as far from even starting. I guess it's gonna be a long time. Jax: and quiet as it's kept. Say baseball does stop for a long time and then it starts over. Like that would be, personally for me, that'd be a great time for me to actually like, you know what, baseball, it stopped. Everything's resetting. Now when it starts again, maybe I could actually get into baseball. So personally, that could benefit me. Greg: By the time they restart up, it's like it's a manageable amount of games for you. we got 50 games left. God, I guess. Jax: I can tap. I can learn about these things. Greg: wait. So if there's a lockout. Nobody's getting paid, right? You don't get paid during lockouts. I know an NBA Jax: Correct. Greg: is like that. Damn. So would that be would this be like the first year Bobby Bonilla doesn't get his his million dollar thing in July? Jax: No. Did that not, I thought that or yeah, I last year was the last year of the Bobby Goonia thing. I think so. Greg: I think I have like five more years left. really? Thanks. No, I'm about to look it up. Jax: Yeah. That's amazing contract. Greg: British contract of all time. Jax: I don't think this contract works. Greg: All ends in 2035. Jax: Shit. How much did he pay? Greg: 1.2 million every year, I think. Jax: Man. Greg: No, no, no, no, wait, hold on. Yeah, because it adds 8 % annual interest. So it's basically like, my god, yeah, 1.2 million. Jax: Every July Greg: Yeah. Jax: 1st, man. I can't even, he can't even be mad at it. Greg: Hey, if I'm Bobby, hey, get you some money management this year, man, because you may not get that business in your lockout. And I don't think they double it. And I don't think you get like your reimbursement type of show. I know. I don't know how it works. Jax: Robin is 63 years old. I didn't realize he was that when he retired in 2001. He's beginning a $1.2 million every year since bro. Greg: Damn, he can blow it. That's so crazy because he could blow his money and he knows July for that installment drop him a 1.2 million dollar deposit Jax: I actually know, it started in, so it started in 2011. So he retired in 2001. Then these payments started in 2011. this, man, shout out to Bobby on here, Greg: Not this. Hey, not this shit get the first. That's crazy. Now, man, shout out, shout out, shout out to the guy like this might be this might be the first year it gets interrupted. Jax: He gonna figure something out. That's gonna be the reason, that's gonna be the reason the lockout doesn't happen, because he needs to get paid. Greg: Or they're like, or they're like, yeah, we got to we got to they make a new CBA, but it's like it only gets approved if Bobby don't get no more money. They'll pay a pay this thing out like just just pay the rest out collectively. Jax: Honestly, you rather just like say, so it ends in 2035. So we got like nine more years left. Would you rather just get paid out right now or keep going with the... Greg: Nah, keep going. Keep going. I keep going. I keep a cut, bro. Tomorrow. First of all, tomorrow's my promise. And I. Jax: That's why he could probably be won it all now, because he's 63. Greg: Yeah, but like what at my age of 60? Well, I don't know what the fuck I'll be together at 63. But in my mind, what am I doing with 5.9? That one point two can't do for me at 63. Now, if I'm doing some crazy shit, I'm trying to make some real big ass moves. Sure. Jax: Yeah. Greg: But one point two with eight percent interest. Man, fuck it, man. Just I like like I like the concept of. Maybe I didn't manage it the best this year. I Jax: You Greg: have a whole nother year to do it again. I have a whole new I have a whole nother year to be like, you know what? I learned from my past mistakes. Let's let's invest this better. I could try a new investment. Jax: I want to ruin my life in a different way. Greg: He could try to invest it like since 2011. He could have definitely like just every year just choose a new investment. So, OK, I'll try this one. Just go around. I'd have that one fucked up. OK, let's try to versus five point nine. I fucked it up. Now I look like Sebastian Tarifere. No offense to him, but realistically, I have the money and I blew it. I don't want to be that guy. Jax: Man. Greg: If Jax: Asshole. Greg: you ask you ask tell for what a tough I would pick Bobby bonee today every day Jax: You ain't lying about that. You were not lying about that either. Greg: But enough about baseball let's get into WNBA Jax: The worst topic ever, Sophie Cunningham. Yuck. Greg: Yeah, she was on like a what she like on a magazine. When I'm a little athletic ones where they like show new or some whatever. Jax: I think she was on like this, one of the sports illustrated ones and people were roasting her. Greg: Yeah, that made me uncomfortable. Jax: Rightfully so, because Sophie Cunningham, you're terrible. But anyway, if y'all did not know, Sophie Cunningham is a player for the Indiana Fever. She's not that good in comparison. Like, she's good in comparison to like the rest of the world, because she's, you know, a WNBA player. But in terms of WNBA, she's not that good. So to sort of like boost her celebrities, she just started talking about... I think somebody asked her about it, but she just kept doubling down on it in the first place. But people started asking her about, you know, trans women and if they should play in the WNBA and this, that, and the third. And she went on like various freaking tangents about it. She, like I said, she doubled and tripled down. you know. She had people that quote unquote supported her that had like quote unquote protests before games. She took pictures with Riley Gaines, who's that conservative girl who ended up becoming like this media darling because she was a collegiate athlete and she got fifth place. She tied for fifth place in a race. She was a swimmer and she tied for fifth place in a race with a trans woman. And because of that, she hates trans women now. And it's just a whole thing. And now Sophie Cunningham is coming out and saying, you know what, let's, can we just stick to basketball? I'm gonna stop right there. She said, let's keep the main thing. You were the main thing that was keeping the main thing, not the main thing. you, cause the fact that she kept going on her tennis attacking trans woman that made people start asking Caitlin Clark questions. And she's like, okay, I'm to answer nobody. Cause she's just trying to hoop. People keep bothering her and like, don't feel bad for her, but I feel bad for a little bit about that. Cause like everybody just keeps trying to make Caitlin Clark into this like. social justice, whatever. They want her on their side of whatever movement. And it's just like, bro, I hate that for her. But back to Sophie Cunningham, she's, I don't know, she's, her doubling and tripling down is made to it. There's like the quote above it says like, this is like sending a fire in your own home and blaming the news for reporting that there's a fire in your home. Like, sister, you made the sandwich. This is all your fault. Greg: Come on gang. Sophie, you made this, yo. Okay. Turkey sub, nigga, that's what you made. And it's hard to make these kind of jokes about it because people might take it the wrong way and be like, am I telling her to get back in the kitchen? No, but she definitely made this sandwich. Like, Jax: Yeah, bro. Greg: no, I promise you, I did not hear anything about trans athletes to this degree until Sophie Cunningham just. Jax: Bro, Greg: raised so Jax: is that? Greg: much awareness like this was like, like some shit that we needed to really focus on. It was fucking crazy. Jax: Like the trans athlete thing, it's not even a like real thing. Cause one there is like, do I know the exact numbers on how many trans people there are in the U S or in the planet or like, obviously no, but there's not that many of them. I don't think there's that many trans people, bro. And I feel like there's even, there's, there's an even smaller amount that Greg: Well, first of all, it's like 1%. Jax: plays sports and there's even a smaller amount that are play sports well enough. to make it to any higher level, whether it be college, whether it be NBA, whether it be WNBA, whether it be whatever. So it's just like, all of this is a complete moot point. Like I don't, why are niggas talking about this shit, bro? Like, niggas are talking about it because dumbasses like Sophie cutting in and keep bringing it up. Like it's not, this is not a real issue at all. Greg: Yeah, now one might be, you one might say, hey, you know, it's time to be proactive about certain things. Now, first and foremost, we pick and choose what we want to be proactive in. So a lot of this shit is performative. A lot of people that are talking about this really don't give a fuck about women, do not care about women's sports. It's just a political agenda. It's a political push. So and some of that. And plus, well, you know, we'll talk about the the Enos and the the Royce whites of the fucking world. But as far as like the Sophie Cunningham aspect of this, it's just like, well, Why? did you even open up this canned worms bro? what was the... For what? Jax: There was no reason at all. I honestly like, I know she like backtracking now and maybe like her teammates gone on her, maybe the coaches, whatever, but it's just like, it feels like did she try to like do this to become a little celebrity and then realize like, this isn't, this isn't really like the platform I want to be on. Cause now I got like right wingers and this, that, and the third backing me and stuff. Like maybe it's something like that, but it's just, I don't know, but it's just. Once again, this was never, this is not a real issue. This is not a real thing. Why are, why are we even, I don't know, we're Greg: Yeah, I feel. Jax: bringing up a stupid. Greg: Yeah, like this, this is like this is how people like fall accidentally fall into like certain types of content. Like people always wonder, like, how do people like accidentally fall into Red Pill content or conservative content or like whatever the content may be? Because the language can kind of feel similar sometimes between like shit that obviously makes sense versus, my God, you're fucking weirdo. Like, I think that one of the prime examples is like, I remember seeing some shit on TikTok where, know, you know, sometimes how women will be like, as a man, why are you arguing with a woman? Why are you arguing with a woman? Why are you going back and forth? Tassy, whatever. And that will have a similar like, That's a similar type of ideology that a red pill man would have. Like, why are you arguing with a woman? But y'all, the reasonings are not the same. So Jax: That's Yeah. Greg: she might think, my God, like, he's on my side. Like, as a man, why? No, on his side, he's like, yo, as a man, why are you arguing with a woman? They're stupid. You know what mean? Like, they'll have, like, certain things. Yes. That's why he's Jax: He thinks you're a lesser human. That's why he's saying that. Greg: saying it. But the language is so similar, you can accidentally go in. And I feel like that's how it was with Sophie Cunningham. Like with Sophie, she might have some similar like languages. But then like once she got in here, like, hold on now, this is not this is not my type of party. Whatever y'all got going on, this seems a little too political for my liking. Now she's trying to backtrack. It's not it's not hitting the same. Also, I think people should like really be careful on what on what they bought the push and promote but, yo, you made the sandwich. All right. Now, it's one thing it's one thing to make the sandwich. It's a lot more commendable when you don't lie to us. It's a lot more commendable to say hey, terrible sandwich. Didn't didn't like how that sandwich taste. Jax: I threw it away, it was a stuffing sandwich. Greg: I'll throw it away. It doesn't negate that you made it but at least you can admit a not my best sandwich. I'll make another one. I'll make a better one tomorrow. And they go like, we'll try to make it. Jax: You Greg: We'll try to spice this bitch up. We'll save it. Burn this shit. But now this is this is crazy. And even in Grandin, like I've been kind of like disconnected like the past two days. So like there was some stuff that I was seeing with like grown ass men like Enis Freedom and Royce Wright. Like I remember you sent me some stuff. I'm like, OK, how did How did we get here? Like, Jax: Yeah, bro. Greg: how did we just take this to the next level? Jax: you got people like Enis Cancer and Royce White talking about, we're gonna, we're going to try to, or no, we're declaring ourselves for the WNBA draft now. And then I think I just, before we even, I think Royce White, yeah, Royce, he like posted a pic of him in a wig talking about, I'm ready to play. And it's just like. Royce White, you were the same person who could not, who were the first, a lottery pick, right, to the Rockets. And you did not play. Greg: lottery pick to the fucking Rockets nigga. We could have, we could have hired somebody important. We could have drafted somebody important. Nigga we wasted a pick on you. Jax: you did not play because you were afraid to get on airplanes. Like this is the same, that's the same guy who's doing all of this. And then you have Enis Cantor who, mean, he was low key. had a little run in the NBA. He wasn't like the best, but he was all right. But once he got bad, he got ass. And everybody fucking hates you and can't stand you. And it's just like, what? What is there to gain from this? Like I don't. especially especially when people like cancer in Royce White, because they're trying to do this whole right wing rift. And it's like, why do you are not white? You can't get away with this. Like the right wingers, they will like sure they might laugh at your jokes and blah, They don't really like you, bro. Like, I don't get it. These niggas hate you. Like, why are you trying to appeal to them? It makes no sense when they just do shit like that. Like. They hate your guts because you are not the same color as them and you're still trying to ha ha and kiki with them to be relevant and major. Like no nigga, I just, these niggas piss me off. But they are the worst type of humans, bro. I think they're the worst type of people. Honestly, I truly do. Greg: Nah, I agree, because it's just... Like of all, and mind you, this nigga is currently like, hooping in the big three right now. Jax: Boo. Greg: And it's just like, Royce White. Jax: Yuck. Greg: Like he's actively in the big, I think he actually gotten, he just got into a fight with Josh Smith two days ago, which was why it was kind of crazy for me. was just like, like, like when you sent me that, or you sent me eating this cancer, but then I saw Royce White make a similar video and I was like, didn't you have a game today? And then you like play a big three game today? Like, well, why are you multitasking so, so hard? You know what rice white reminds me of? reminds me of that. You remember that light skinned nigga that was on the plane? He's like a, like a mega black. I was like, Jax: He looks like him. Yeah. Greg: that reminds me of him. You see? Sophie, you see what you did, bro? This is, this is who you're empowering. These are the type of people that are empowering. Are they still trying to kill Enid's family? Jax: I'm pretty sure, but that's not necessarily like. I think they just want to kill him just, why do they want to kill him? I don't know, but like, I don't think the people who want to kill him, I think they're like evil people. So like we can't like actively Greg: for sure. Jax: support them, but like. Greg: yeah, like I get it. I get it. Right. Like. Like this is not like the same as like. I can't Mitch McConnell this, you know, I can't I can't do it like that, but it's just like. Jax: Don't give me start on that. Don't give me start on that again. Greg: I can't. But it's just like, why are you so like this? There's people that are actively trying to kill you. Like, why? Why are you so focused on other things that don't really matter to your personal agenda right now? Jax: None of this matters to any of these people. In fact, there was like one of the Fox News guys, he was like, why are we still even talking about this? I don't even watch women's sports. Like, do I have that? Let me see. Wait. And this is like worst person you know, makes a good point. This Greg: Me. Jax: is like, like why? Like none of these people even actually care about Greg: Why are we talking about this? Jax: the WNBA trans, none of that. So I don't get it, bro. It's just, it's just so stupid. And that's why I'm glad Sophie Cunningham ended up getting a flagrant too, by Dijonet, what was yesterday? Greg: Yeah, yes. Yeah. And Dijon was out of pocket. So he was out of pocket. It he. That was fucking nuts. yes. The play right there. Jax: Yeah. Greg: my God. Yeah. Jax: Play on. Play on. Greg: Honestly. Charge. I mean. Jax: You Greg: Sophie said her feet by the guy and go hold you again with the foot. Jax: Alright, so keeping it in basketball and scandals, Kawhi Leonard had another one. I like I'm gonna bring it up so we can just like see exactly what the problem is this time. Pablo is still on his ass. Really still on Steve Ballmer's ass, cause really all Steve Ballmer's fault, but at some point Adam Silver make a decision. Now that's that was from a clip from Palotorius podcast talking about it in this whole I watched the episode. In this episode it was about Dactronix who is the worldwide leader in like Jumbotrons and everything. They're the people who made like the big Halo board jumbotron thing in the Clipper Stadium. And they have Kawhi as a celebrity sponsor, but the only problem with that is that Daktronics is a they only sell two like businesses and so they don't really have need for a celebrity sponsor, which was, you know, sort of brought up in that episode. And the biggest issue as far as that is 'cause one Kawhi Lander was the first one they've ever had in their, you know, sixty years of existence and it was like an under the table deal. And like the whole thing with that is this is a problem it violates the cap circumvention rules because with this you need to have a you need to be able to prove for like rational or rationality purposes that you have this endorsement for a reason, you know like You have to be able to rationally explain like why somebody has this endorsement. And like with this, you can't really rationally explain any other reason that Kawhi has a Zep for Cap circumvention because they've never had a celebrity endorser ever. Like Kawhi is the first one to ever do it. He's not even he didn't even announce it. Like they he's done no media for them, no nothing for them. they're a business to business. They primarily sell two businesses, so a celebrity endorsement wouldn't have done anything. it's just Like we get it, we understand it. I know Pablo, he's gonna keep investigating because that's his job, that's a journalist job. But Adam Silver, there's so many scandals and stuff going on because it's from aspiration. Now there's this. There was also the soc he had like a endorsement with a soccer team or whatever that Steve Ballmer handled. Like it's just it's so there's too much writing on the wall. Adam Silver just make a decision so we can stop worrying about this. Like I've seen some things that'd be like, he might just void Kawhi's contract and cool, I guess, but I like make a decision, bro. Like the season finna start low key. Like, please think it damn. It's been what, over a year of this? Like, we know he did it. It's okay. Just make a punishment so we can all move on. Greg: This is dumb. think, like, he can't, like, he's not even. He hasn't even picked an extreme yet. Because you could have gone like. The correct Adam Silver route and punish him. Correctly or whatever. You also could have gone the other extreme route, the David Stern route and neutralize the threat. You know, I mean, could have. Ended a nigga like Pablo, so we could just not hear about this shit, but you not doing either. You're just standing on your hands, just allowing more information to happen that you probably didn't want leaked because of all of the thorough investigations, internal investigations that you've been going through for over a year and like months and months and months and every my God, we haven't seen anything in the preliminary, whatever. And then Pablo brings up something else. And now you got to go deeper into your bag because Jax: Yeah. Greg: apparently you weren't doing it well enough. It must have been a conversation with Steve Ballmer and Ballmer saying, trust me, brother. We're good. Like you have nothing to worry about. And Pablo won't let it go. And good on him. That's his job. He's not supposed to. Jax: That's his job. He's a journalist. He's gonna he say he's gonna keep going until it gets to the end of the story. So story's not over. Greg: Yeah. Jax: Which is great, cause it's been like seventeen different parts of the story, and it's still not over. Like you niggas like Greg: And he's still got more ammunition. Like it's not, he's nowhere close. Jax: just admit y'all been caught red-handed. It's okay. You are still Steve Bomer. Like you're still the richest sports owner, like in the world, I think. Like you will one hundred thousand percent be fine. Like I don't even think Steve Ballmer is like this malicious figure or nothing. I think he just wanted to win. He got caught up and now he's caught. And yeah, that's it. Like, I don't think he's doing anything like particularly evil or nothing. He was just trying to win and he got caught. And it sucks because he was trying to win. He ain't win shit. That's the part that sucks. Greg: And what's crazy is he ain't win shit and the Lakers won. On your watch nigga like it's just. I mean I would I would just say that's karma at that point but it's just like. Damn nigga like at this point it's over might as well just tell the truth. At this point just tell the truth. Well I mean. Bomber the type of nigga quite a type of nigga to tell the truth and shit still get prolonged. I know he's like Jax: I don't think Kawhi even care. Greg: I like I know like I know he. I know what he said, but we still got to do some more investigation. Jax: Like I think Kawhi's probably like annoyed about this a little bit, but I don't think he like actually cares that much about this shit. Greg: First of all, it's his fault. A lot of this shit is his fault. For him to be annoyed when it came to that aspiration thing, all he had to do was just do something. Just make a little post. Jax: That wasn't that wasn't that wasn't that wasn't the deal that was promised to him. He probably didn't know they wanted him to do something. Or he probably didn't know, or well, he didn't know anything about this. Cause he was just or he knew about the deal and all that, but he didn't know like the whole, if I don't post, it's gonna become this whole big scandal years down the road. Like he didn't think anything like that was gonna happen. Like, this is all Steve Ballmer's fault, because he could have just like, yes, Kawhi and his uncle and all that were like, we want these benefits, we that. Y'all could have said no. I didn't have to agree to this shit, but y'all did. And now it became this. Like, I don't know, bro. Adam Silver, just figure it out. It's the season has to happen at some point. Like, will Kawhi be able to play? Will he not? I don't know. Like I don't like just figure some. Greg: And y'all still holding Toronto hostage right now, my nigga. Like, this is... Jax: Brandon Ingram's probably like, damn, am I still a raptor or not? Greg: It's like yo, so like do I need my passport or not nigga like let me know Yeah, Jax: Yeah, bro, so I don't Greg: I'll be pissed off if I was fucking Brandon Ingram. I'm like man wrap this shit up for my sake nigga Let me know where I'm hoover Jax: Literally. Yeah, everybody else involved in trade. I let me know where I'm going. And the cra like if they void Kawhi's contract and he just ends up going to the Raptors and free agency, he'll probably be suspended for like X amount of games or whatever. But when he comes back, there's gonna be a crazy roster and they'll probably still have Brandon Ingram and all them niggas, bro. Like Greg: Nuts bro. Jax: But yeah, I haven't slipper figure it out, like honestly dude. Greg: our weekly, our weekly motivational pep talk to Adam Silver. Figure it out, Jax: At this point. Greg: brother. Figure it out, bro. Please figure it out. All right. Damn. Take our advice. Jax: He's not. Greg: That's true. Jax: Do you real fast before we move on to the Muhammad thing, do you do you think he's gonna wrap this up before the season starts? Cause he's starting what? But do you t Greg: Nigga, I would hope so. If I'm Brandon Egram, what the fuck do I do? Jax: Shit. Ride around with Glow Rilla. That's it. Just Greg: Hahaha Jax: just hang with g hang with her until it's time. Greg: This nigga in the car listening to she want to hang on. He went in with a bad bitch. He went. No, bro. Yeah, I'd be sick. I'd be sick as hell. No, yeah, I would I would say I would say they need this should need to be done. This need to be solidified no, no later than October 1st. Like we got training camp. as you try to try to but anyway we got What's nigga name? Mohamed Kulabali. A lot of you might be asking what does who the fuck is Mohammed? Who about it? Who is that man? Jax: Is he related to Bilal Kulabali, the dude who plays for the Wizards? Greg: The answer is no. He's nowhere near related to him. They're around the same age though. Pula Bali's 24. Jax: this is like a common last name? Greg: Maybe. But I know Jax: What is it? Greg: he's not from the States, though. He grew he grew Jax: I was like, where's cool? Greg: up. He grew up in the States, for sure. He seems like he's from like he was born in the UK, but like he was raised in like the Pennsylvania area. Like most of his like most of his life. But. Share my screen. Well, before I share my screen. I'll tell you a little bit about Kula Bali. Kula Bali was supposed to be like this guy that. Had all of these different ventures and businesses or whatever and he would you know kind of recruit popular NFL stars I don't know if he did NBA but NFL stars. I'm using stars and quotations different other athletes across American sports and they would invest in these companies seeking a return and There was a article that came out a couple weeks ago a few weeks ago that He was scamming the fuck out these niggas. Damn Nerd took his money. These NFL stars lost a combine over a million dollars in what they thought they were going to get their investments back. Most of them, I think they got somebody from the USA men's soccer team as well, if I'm not mistaken. One of them was labeled on there. Jalen Carter was listed on there. a couple of other like Philly people. And once I realized he grew up in the Philadelphia area, a lot of things made sense. OK, well, you're just you went locally. OK, you went you went local. So in his defense, I think he went to that same news article that was. Putting it putting all that stuff out of, yeah, we got scared, we got scammed. He came in and was like, a lot of misinformation going on. The typical. Hey, look, I was blindsided, you know. I was expecting a return to it just just didn't work out. Now, obviously. Jax: D the Steve Balmer playbook. Greg: The Steve Ballmer, like, you're confused. I'm confused. Me too, Jax: Me too. Greg: bro. Now, with him, he has other ventures, but I think a lot of people thought it was a scam, mainly because I don't know if he said e-commerce. I forgot what it was. But basically, there was a lot of like manual input of like funds or like transactions. It didn't feel organic like it'll be like, OK, an item order that was labeled fifty thousand dollars or this kind of like it's like, OK, these transactions, it just seems like you're just mass producing a transaction and kind of falsifying like the click views of certain things that you got going on. Basically faking the views and the streams or whatever to advertise cities, athletes. And once they put their money in. Now you have money and you didn't scam these niggas. And all of a sudden is, I didn't know. I didn't know he's going to have a fall off this month. This month is just as slow as low, guys. We didn't we didn't get anything. Absolutely. So Jax: It's really it's really just a circle scheme. Yeah. Greg: now that we got that out the way, now I get to share my screen. That. Kula Bali's passed away. He died. Where's that one? no, not it. Where'd you go? What? all the way over there. Jax: Hey, is this the right article? I was like this I was like this is a woman. Greg: in detail about like all this shit that going on. Alleged scammer that was targeting former NFL players was found dead. He died, quote unquote, in a swimming pool died at the age of 24. And it raises suspicions like, huh? This is interesting. So far, they're not saying anything about foul play, but niggas are just like, hey, you scam the niggas. openly, openly denied it. And then two weeks after that article that article dropped, I'll talk to you about that dropped early July. Two, Jax: Yeah. Greg: three weeks later, now you're dead. You know, that's just Jax: And being all right. Yes, NFL players have guns and all that, but also like if you're scamming people, you pr you probably not just scamming NFL players. Like it's probably more people you still you're stealing money from. Greg: no, yeah, yeah, yeah, your clientele is up there. You know, I mean, it's it's damn near a pyramid at this point, you know. And so Jax: Yeah. Greg: I I get that on top of that. I can't just rule off NFL stars because when I think about this situation and bring you back to my we do not care, Moses Malone, Jr. got the worst of some of the shit. You know, I mean, we allegedly we've seen James Harden. Do some unfathomable things behind a FaceTime camera. You feel me? Jax: Allegedly we see Terry and Arnold do the same shit. Like this shit just be happening. Greg: over, you know what saying, over talking bad about him, about a basketball camp, you know what mean? You stealing some mil-, you stealing some hundreds of thousands of dollars. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Yeah. And if you're doing it around the community, your community is Philadelphia. I'm feeling niggas on play. Philly niggas are some of the most egregious people. Like they cool, but You can't you can't play with them because, you can't do that. So, yeah, it is raising a lot of suspicions. and for him to be so young, I wonder how he got into this shit. You know, I mean, like, how did you Jax: Scamming? Greg: find it? How did you find your way into like not only this type of lifestyle, but the type of clientele? I my bad. Very important thing that I left out. Very important thing, Jackson. You understand why it's very important that this happened. I was wondering and I did my research. I'm like, how the fuck did he get to these NFL people? Well, apparently once he got his his stuff. Legitimize to a point where it was taken seriously, the scam was taken somewhat seriously. He brought in. One of the people that he had on his payroll. with somebody that was out of what position he had, but he had a position with the Arizona Cardinals. And that was the link to connect and like make like for NFL players to be like, OK, this is legitimate. Like I know him like he works for the Jax: Yeah. Greg: Cardinals. And it's just like, I just think it's very interesting. That the Arizona Cardinal niggas have been doing mad corruption for some years. He had that position, I guess, until like. Between twenty two, I don't know when he. He had it up until I think last year, because I think once every started going to shit, that nigga like bounced or whatever. And I forgot like I'll have to like look up the actual guy's name. But it's just like that would with the dad with the mixture of. The other gambling that was with the Arizona corner, so my Arizona, you'll be on some bullshit. I'll be somebody I'll be able to be on some bullshit over there and going down again. Jax: Ain't nothing to do with team is ass, like team is ass hot as hell outside. I think people say Arizona's nice place, but it's like a hundred and seventeen degrees every single day out there, like I find something to do. Greg: Yes, all y'all. yeah. All y'all niggas got is Devin Booker and some vibes and they go like, it's over. Come on, Jax: Yeah. Greg: gang. It's done. So, yeah, I don't know how we connected with him, but that was basically his little leeway to kind of get them NFL niggas to to be on board. Now, that nigga that was on Team USA for a talker, I don't know how you got finessed, Yeah, I was supposed to be on the World Cup anyway. Jax: He just seen a bunch of people like, they make money with him. He knows professional athletes and blah blah blah. Let me tap in with him and then they got tapped out. Greg: feel like, no shade, I just feel like I'm a little too Houston to get caught up. I feel like I can smell a scam a mile away. And that's not even me being cocky. I feel like I've just seen it too many times, because Houston be scamming niggas. I see it. Jax: All right, are saying there's not some somebody gonna hear this and be like, you know what? Let me let me test that. Greg: Yeah, you can. You can. I'm going say no every time, I'm going say no. I'm going say no even if it do sound legit. Too bad. Don't worry. Don't worry. I'll block my blessings. It's fine. But that's, yeah, that's, that shit is nuts. Jax, do you feel like, do you feel like he got taken care of? Or do you really feel like this was an accident for real? Like, do you really feel like this was a? a genuine he actually just he died in the pool like he really just. Jax: No, somebody killed him. Somebody for sure killed him. Greg: Am I not gonna go off? Jax: Yum it that's what it's that's what it feels like, bro. I don't like I just know like well Greg: In German, Jax: I know me personally if you if y'all ever hear about me dying in a pool somebody kill me because I'm being pools to die like that so if I die in a pool somebody kill me Greg: yeah, that's true because I'm... Jax: This is going that's going to the different Greg: Yeah, that's crazy. I'm looking at some of this other shit. Yeah, it's getting it's getting crazy. Yeah, no, yeah, something that they they they took care of that nigga bro is over. Is Jax: Yeah. Greg: so young to manage it crazy. That's still that's the crazy part for me. I'm like, damn short life 24. Jax: Gaming ass niggas. That's that's all I got to say, man. Greg: You know what mean? Stuff like this need to be like. I ain't man, Matt Miller man, please be careful, bro. Please be careful, bro. God damn, it could be you. Could be you. All right, real quick. Stephon Diggs to the commanders. Jax: Cool. Not really much to say about it, Stephon Diggs. Well, like one thing to say about Stephon Diggs before we go to other stuff, like no matter no matter what, no matter what's going on off the field, he's not gonna let it bother him on the field, bro. Greg: You Jax: Like he's still I think he still had like a thousand yards last year with the Patriots. He was still like their number one receiver, even though he's like, he's not like he's still good, he's just not what he used to be. But like none of that off the court stuff or none of the off the field stuff ever messed with his play and like, hey Shout out to that, man. Greg: This is a direct reflection. This is like the perfect example of keeping the main thing the main thing. On that on that on that field, you locked in off that field. Jax: Everybody call you fant fantastic teammate and everything. Off the field. Can't do it. Can't do it. Greg: By by a buyers beware my nigga buyers beware off that field keep your head on the swivel my nigga, but am Jax: But he's gonna he's gonna get you yards, he's gonna get you touchdowns, he's gonna mentor your young receivers. He's gonna perfect perfect teammate and perfect leader in the locker room. So I get why they signed him, 'cause they needed him. Especially cause Debo Samuel, he left in free agency and all they have now is Terry. But now they got Terry and Stephon Diggs, so. Greg: Is it it's Travon over there is or is he what? he's with Green Bay. He's over there. freedom. Jax: No. He's a I think he's a free agent. Yeah. Greg: Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, I don't have a lot to say about this, but. Man, he didn't he didn't overcame a lot of shit, but I'm not going to lie. I mean, it's self-inflicted, so it gave me wrong. But damn, Jax: Yeah, self inflicted, but he he still overcame it. Greg: he be overcoming them bitches, bro, like. Jax: Shout out to Greg: Like he go out of his way to make his, he turned his life difficulty up to Hall of Fame by choice and just overcomes. Jax: Was increase my rent? I wanna grind harder. Like that's that's what he did. Greg: I really got to feel this struggle. You don't but I'm you can overcome it I guess. Jax: But for our last thing though, Greg, the Hall of Fame that ceremony happened yesterday. Who got inducted? Drew Brees, Roger Craig, Greg: Okay. Jax: Luke Keekly, Adam Venateri. I feel like there's one more name I'm forgetting. Larry Fitzgerald. Yeah, Greg: You said Larry already, How about I Larry, yeah. Jax: Larry Fitzgerald. They all got inducted in the Hall of Fame. And All of them rightfully so deserve it because the other Hall of Fame players, obviously. But since that happened, let's go ahead and talk about, you know, the upcoming Hall of Fame class of 2027. There's a couple first ballet or a couple people who are up for it for the first time. What do you think about some of their Hall of Fame chances? There's some more names I'm gonna Greg: This is. Jax: throw it out to you, but here's the the first batch of people right now. Like As far as first ballot, well, respectfully, I don't think Cam Newton is going to be a Hall of Famer. Like I like Cam Newton, he's a Hall of Fame talent, but I don't think his career warranted that. I think he'd tell you that as well. And then we both know Antonio Brown's not getting the Hall of Fame no time soon, bro. Greg: I don't even know why they put that little nigga on their graphic boy. It's not happening. Jax: Like he he should he should be a first ballot hall of famer. He had the career, the accolades, everything. But he's not going to because everybody hates him now. Greg: Brother brother, they brother, they held terror terror on for three years or nothing. They got a date. They had Jax: Nee, they held Bill Belichick out. Greg: they have something on this nigga. Antonio, bro. He's not touching this shit in my young lifetime. All right. hell no. I think it's pretty automatic. Well, me personally, I think it's automatic for AP and it's automatic for grunt. Jax: He's he gotta be first ballot. I think AP and Greg: He Jax: Grom are first ballot. They're going in. I don't think any of them other ones are going in immediately. Greg: Yeah, think Richard Sherman just gives me like a third time kind of vibe, second, third time. Yeah, I think third Jax: He's like he's going to be a Hall of Famer. He just I don't I just don't think it'll be for Greg: try, I feel like a third try is suitable for, cause prime Richard Sherman. Jax: He was the best corner in Anna Like it was it was him and Darrell Rivas. Greg: He used to shut half the field down. Jax: It was him and Darrell Rivas. Greg: Yes, bro. I'm not speaking on Ben because. Jax: Big Ben not getting them first ballot. Greg: I'm not speaking. No, As much as I would love Cam to. It's not happening, I'm not going to lie to you. I'll be honest with you, I know I kind of knew Gerald McCoy like post career more than like during his career, so I'm not gonna say like I know. Jax: Jeremy McCoy was Jeremy Court was a monster, but like I said, I don't think he's getting in the first ballot. I feel like first ballot got a lot to do with name recognition as much as anything, to be honest with you. Greg: Yeah. Andrew might hit that hole. You think Andrew might hit it? Jax: I don't think f did he win a r I mean, did he get a ring? I think so. Yeah, 'cause with the Rams. Yeah. Cause he was with the Bengals for like ever and they didn't do anything 'cause it was Bengals. But he went to the Rams and got a ram. will it be first though? I'll do it be first by. Greg: I don't think first. don't think first. I think it's going to be the same as like Richard Sherman, like second or third try. Yeah, but yeah, I think the clear cut to. AP and growing everybody else. Tough load. Jax: Yeah, other first ballad or other people who are up for first time Hall of Famer is Joe Hayden, Le'Veon Bell, Eric Weddle, Malcolm Jenkins, Dante Hightower, Ryan Kerrigan. Respectfully I don't think any of them are making it. But they were all great players. Le'Veon especially, bro, like I think Le'Veon just managed his career poorly 'cause he did that whole I'ma sit out a whole year 'cause they didn't want to pay me and that and then he went to the Jets and that ruined his career after Greg: Yeah, that fucked. Yeah. Him going to the Jets really fucked everything up. But man, I think about that time. I think about that 2017 time, bro, when it came to like the top three running backs. I feel I still to this day. I don't think there were. Three better running backs at that time, like. I just don't see it like. Top three running backs that was going on with it was was Zeke, Le'Veon Bill and Jax: Was Gurley still or was he hurt? Greg: Yeah, Gurley. Yeah, Gurley was Prime Gurley, Prime Bell, and Prime Zeke. I'm taking those Jax: What's it? Greg: three. I'm taking those three running backs and I'm putting I'm going to get anybody else's top three in their era, Like. Jax: I might take I might take those three over the top three now, bro. I don't care. 'Cause like yeah, I like yeah, Derrick Henry's Derrick Greg: Not dead-ass, like, you would have to... Jax: Henry was in this area, but they were still better than him. Bijan is B. John. Bijon's good, you know. So I I think I might and then who probably third is probably like Jameer Gibbs. I think I'd have all three of them over Gibbs. Even though I like Gibbs as well, but I'm just saying. Greg: Wait, who was the first name you said? Jax: Derek Henry? Greg: Derrick. Jax: I said Derek Bijan and Gibbs. You could you could probably swap out Gibbs with Saquon, maybe. Greg: Yeah, probably. Yeah. Say Kwan or Jonathan Taylor, depending on how you feel about Jonathan Taylor. But it's just back back in the back in the day, like in 2017, there wasn't like, no, you could swap. Like, no, these were the three. These are the three. Nobody was really touching it. Christian McCaffrey was still a little young. He was he was still a little young. They so quick. Jax: They all fell off so so bad though. That's Greg: so quick, like prime for prime, like you would have to go early 2000s for me to even like justify it like. Jax: Like, 'cause like Zeke came in the league as the best running back in the NFL, bro. Like he led the league and wrestling Greg: Like Zeke came in Jax: his rookie year. Greg: and it's not because they're like because it's their peak for sure. But like it's the ability that they had like they bought all three of them. They all moved differently. They all had their different things like Zeke was running through niggas efficiently, like a officially run Jax: And hurdling niggas. Greg: through nigga. Levy on Bell was like one of the most patient running backs I've ever seen in my life that never really ran full speed. Jax: And he can catch two. And he could catch two. And then Todd really was just like he was just Greg: Yes, and it's hot girly my goodness. Jax: a perfect fit for that Shaomi Vay offense. And he they just ate bro. Cause I think he had he still have like top three touchdowns since like what Greg: Yes. Jax: 2010? And he hasn't played in like five years or something crazy like that. Greg: Yeah, bro. It was crazy. was a crazy year for the league, bro. Like, that shit was fucking buzz. Yeah. And like I said, like, if they just, all three of those running backs, if they just would have had a longer stretch of excellence and dominance, they would be Hall of Famers. So I've never seen, I've never seen Jax: Yeah, like two more years. Greg: backs like that. Jax: Yeah, like there's two more years for each of them at their prime and like I think you could be like, Okay, yeah, they're Hall of Famers. Greg: Nigga, a third and two never scared me when I had Zeke. It Jax: Yeah. Greg: was always, like you would always convert that shit. A goal line touchdown? Even on the fall off of Zeke's career. Yeah, let Tony, let Tony Pollard run the 80 yard. We get down to the three, pull that nigga out and put Zeke in. That's Jax: Yeah. Greg: automatic six, bro. Like, what the fuck? That's crazy. And that was on this decline. Jax: That's really just like I feel like a testament to Derrick Henry. Cause how is how's that nigga still doing it, bro? I don't get Greg: No, that is for Sam. You know what? I'll say this. The the the the running backs that came in like two or three years right after the big three of twenty seventeen. They definitely had a longer like longevity because that's when McCaffrey came out, Derek Henry came out, Chuck Nick Chubb came out. Jax: I think Derek Harry and McCaffrey were both seventeen. I think they were rookies. Yeah. Greg: Nah, they weren't 17. They might have been. Really? Jax: Yeah, bro. I'm ninety-eight percent sure. Greg: Because I know Saquon was 18. Because Saquon and Chubb came out in the same year. Jax: Yeah, Derrick Henry was sixteen. Greg: Jesus. that was, you're after Zeke. Jax: That was the same year as Z. But Derek Haney was like a backup to DeMarco Murray for like the first however many years of his career, I remember that. Greg: Interesting. Hmm. I didn't think about that. Damn. Jax: That's why that's why it took a minute for Derrick Henry to like start going. Greg: And then Saquon was with the fucking Giants, so niggas like, it was hard for that nigga to like really shine the way he should have been shining, because the nigga was in the backfield dancing for his life. Jax: Yeah, and Christian yeah, McCaffrey was twenty seventeen. Greg: Yeah. And the Panthers sucked at the time. Jax: Yeah, it was just him and Cam. And he wasn't even a real Greg: Literally. Yeah. Jax: running back at first. He was a receiver. I think he's still a receiver to me, but I digress. Greg: Yeah, I think it's still a receiver. Yeah, bro. Like they were able to overcome their situations and have a like their longevity is like, OK, but even though some of them think is be having injuries. But I remember I remember I remember peaks 2017. was a time was that. Miss those debates. Jax: I'm looking at McCaffrey numbers bro. That nigga not a Hall of Famer. Greg: It's because the nigga kept getting injured, bro. Like, he would, like, be missing games and shit. Jax: Yeah. Greg: That's the main thing that's going to keep him out. It's just like, like, we saw his talent, but he was always getting hurt and shit. And it wasn't until... Jax: Unless that nigga unless he finally just flips the switch and once he gets too old for running back, just be slot receiver. 'Cause I feel like he I honestly feel like he can do that. Greg: Okay. Not if the substation has anything to do with it. Jax: Speaking of let's let's get to these hot let's get to these hot takes. All right. My hot take of the week. I've been thinking of this for a minute and it's just been growing based off of like all these injury reports. I think I think Brenda Ayuk was right. That's my hot take. Brandon Brandon Ayuk was right. The San Francisco 49ers, that substation, it's cursed their players. Everybody's getting injured. That's not a good organization to play at. Brenda Ayuk was right for being like, you know what? I'm never playing for this franchise again. And honestly, the substation might have done something a little bit crazy to his brain to make him act the way he's acting. Maybe that's has some type of effect. But like, nah, Brenda Ayuk was right. Like the Niners are cursed or they're doing like some evil dark experiments on their players in the substation or something. Cause I think I think they had 20 people on their injury report in like training camp or whatever just started like a week ago. And it's already this many people. Like, don't play for the 49ers. Greg: You heard about the Broncos? Jax: Brenda Ayuk, you were Brenda Ayuk, you were correct. So that's my hot take, bro. I'm I stand with Brandon Ayuk. He's not crazy. He was just he's not wrong. He's not crazy. He was just early. Greg: I also, you know, honestly, I wasn't standing with him until I saw that Broncos player. That was my final straw. When we have a joint practice in Jax: yeah. 'Cause they had that joint pack you can bronze. Greg: the Broncos, nigga, turn his Achilles at the damn joint practice in San Fran. And now we have a substation account, parody account that's growing by the day in numbers. Jax: Yeah. Greg: I was like, you know what? Maybe I do stay with Brandon. I you now. I don't I don't agree with all the other city doing. With Jaden Daniels and all the other shit that ain't got nothing to do. Still Jax: That is a little odd. That is a little odd. Greg: odd, you know what mean? But we get all maybe we can point it to the substation. Maybe the substation was. Just Jax: It scrambled his brain, bro. Greg: maybe maybe it was just more aggressive with him. But man, look that. It's kind of hard to just continue. to try to justify what the fuck, Sam. They gotta move, nigga. They gotta dig it. Jax: Like I I gotta tell you, sometime with the next two years, either their practice facility is gonna move or they're gonna get that substation moved. But like they cannot coexist 'cause even if you don't agree or don't believe that all the substation has anything to do with it, the players are gonna start thinking that. And once it happens it's over. Greg: Really, bro? Honestly, they're really just like, they're one, they're a Brock Perti injury away. They're a Brock Perti injury away. Nah, I Jax: Nah, because Brock Purdy was getting hurt last year and they just put in Mac Jones. They need they need they honestly if Brock Purdy, Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle, and Fred Warner and Nick Bosa all get hurt at the same which is very which is honestly it's very plausible. Like that could happen. So that could happen. If they all all the players are gone Greg: They've all gotten hurt before. That's the problem. They've all had like serious injuries. Jax: at the same time, I think they're gonna be like, all right, we have to move some shit. And this could very much happen because all them niggas get hurt. All them niggas get hurt. Greg: That's fucking crazy. it Greenlaw that got injured at the Super Bowl or some shit? Jax: Yep, he's just running off the sideline to go Greg: Damn. Jax: in the game. He tore his I think he tore his Achilles too. Greg: Yeah, towards Achilles just running. Fucked up. Fucked up. Yeah, I stand with Brandon. Are you only only for the 49ers though? Nothing else. Nothing else. I don't cause anything else. I have a Spider-Man heart to watch the movie. Me personally, I enjoyed it. I used to be a Tobey Maguire fan. I still am. But Tom is, know, Tom is clearly the... Tom Jax: Tom's in this bag, Tom is in his bag. Greg: is in his bag. You know what mean? I think he is the best version of Spider-Man. I'll give him the flowers. That's not my hot take. My hot take. is something that I found on Twitter, so I can't claim it as mine, but I co-sign it. Timothy Shalome needs to be a Harry Osborne. All right. Now, I saw this mainly because I heard. And there were speculations that originally back in 2016, Timothy Shalome, he auditioned for Spider-Man, didn't get it because he got beat up by Tom Holland. I remember this. I think he would play the fuck. out of a Harry Osborn because it reminded me of the Superman movie last year. And when I found out Lex Luthor, the nigga that played it was originally trying to play Superman. Jax: Yeah. Greg: And now he had to play the villain and that one a scene just hit a little different. It just hit a Jax: Yeah, different. Greg: little different. And I think Timothy Chalamet, I feel like he could really get in his bag and be a hateful ass Harry Osborn looking at a Spider-Man that he wish he could have been. I don't know if it'll be one a-esque. But I'm willing to find out. I'm willing to find out my hot take is, hey, let that nigga, Timothy, play Harry. I think they look natural as friends. Like, it wouldn't look like an odd pairing to be friends. Like, they look like they could be friends in real life if it was. And they could look like they could be like niggas that hated each, you know, hate each other, too. Like, Timothy Chalamet, in the right lighting, looked like he could hate a nigga. So. That's that's my input. can't say that I came up with this originally, but I co-signed this shit heavy and it's heavily influenced by the Superman movie I saw last year. Jax: Like, one, I also like the Spider-Man movie. But two, I don't even think they're going to do a a Green Goblin, Harry Osborne, because I like if they was going to, they would have been done it. And also, I think he needs to be like a light-skinned nigga. He needs to be a nigga that can get waves, bro. Cause Harry Osbourne has waves. Or Norman Norman Osborne has waves. Like that whole family is waved up, bro. So I feel like it needs to be somebody who can somebody who can do that. Greg: A wavy white boy. Jax: It can't be Timothy. He can't do that with his hair. It gotta be what's dude from Greg: No. Jax: What is that light skin dude from him? It gotta be him. What is his name? The light skin dude from him. Greg: him? You want him to be a black man Jax: to read, yeah. Greg: for real? Jax: He got normal they be having they got waves, bro. Let me see if I can find a pig. Greg: So the nigga said, super villain can't be Marty Supreme. Jax: No bro, look they can have women, bro. They walk around with hair like that, bro. This is niggas have waves. Give this nigga waves. This is a greasy. Greg: That's cool. But on the Toby McGuire one, wasn't that crazy, though. Jax: That's because we didn't know. We didn't have inclusivity. We didn't know about this. Now we're in we're in the age of Greg: Yeah, James was a was a James Franco was the was Harry Ray. Jax: Yeah, yeah. Greg: Yeah, this is a nigga right there on the second row. think that's, that's not right. Yeah, that's Harry. Jax: Yeah, that's him, that's him right there. I just think Greg: Anyone waved up? Jax: he needs that waves, bro. Like it was erased this is having hair having what's the name Franco? That's erasure. We don't need that. We need waves, bro. No you even gotta do that. Greg: I don't think I don't even think I've seen Tyreek with with with hair. She's been so low cut. I have to look. I have to find some shit. I'm sure he has. I'm sure he has waves. He's black. But I'm just saying, like, Jax: I mean when your hair is low you can get waves. Yeah, thank you, we can get waves. Greg: I'm I'm just saying I'm just I have to personally just look at. What do you what do you look like with some waves? I'm just I just see what what hair looks like on this nigga. But yeah, OK. If we're going off of the comics, you may have had a point. But if you don't give a fuck about inclusivity, tap in with me. Tap in with me, Timothy Charlemagne. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Let the hatred outrise your waves nigga. But that wraps it up nigga. Any last words? Jax: it was raining today. But still make sure you go outside, go touch some grass. And hey, if you ain't seen Spider-Man, go see it. If you ain't seen The Odyssey, you should have been seen that. So yeah. But yeah, that's all I got to say. And stop getting mad on the internet about Greg: you Jax: stuff these niggas don't even care about, bro. Like doom trains, all Greg: Deadass, stop arguing. Jax: that stuff. Like, niggas don't care, bro. So stop getting mad at shit like that. They just want you to be mad. Greg: All right. You know, for me, I co-sign Jack's bro. Anytime you buy the game, so argument. Understand what I'm about to tell you. No, there is no cheesecake factory in Nigeria. OK. There is no Wal-Mart in Nigeria, my nigga. Keep that shit in mind when you're about to have these back and forth debates. These niggas are arguing about things that they are not seeing in person. Jax: They just if they have a little blue check mark by their name or whatever, they're probably just a bot. If you click and see like their country of origin and is not from the US, they're not a good person. Greg: Abort mission. Please stop arguing with niggas from East Asia. Please. Jax: Even if they are from the US to argue with these niggas, bro, it doesn't matter, bro. Greg: You look more stupid than them. Cause it is their job to rage bait you bro. They get paid to rage bait you bro. Jax: And they don't look stupid 'cause they're just a bot. They they don't look like anything. They're they're a AI bot. Greg: And it's working on you. It's working on you. So just keep that in mind. We'll catch y'all niggas next week. Stay out the way.