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BONUS Ep. PRETTY PINK SKIES AHEAD: Kelly Oxford · QUESTION EVERYTHING

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  Speaker 1: The following podcast is a dear media production.
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  Speaker 2: Big Things Happen when You're pretty, pretty bold, pretty clever,
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  Speaker 2: pretty strong. I'm Danielle Robe and each week my guests
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  Speaker 2: and I have conversations that put a new spin on pretty.
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  Speaker 1: This is pretty Smart. Screenwriter, author, director, stay at home mom, married, divorced,
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  Speaker 1: three kids, happy, sad, successful, anxious. Kelly Oxford has lived
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  Speaker 1: a lot of life, and she writes about it all
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  Speaker 1: with razor, sharp, honesty and wit. How else do you
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  Speaker 1: think she was dubbed the Queen of Twitter. In her
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  Speaker 1: directorial debut pink Sky's Ahead, Kelly writes autobiographically about a
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  Speaker 1: nineteen year old diagnosed with an anxiety disorder. She says
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  Speaker 1: the movie will help us all feel less shame in
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  Speaker 1: our not normal feelings. I'm really excited for you to
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  Speaker 1: hear this bonus episode of Pretty Smart with Kelly Oxford.
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  Speaker 3: Kelly, I'm really excited.
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  Speaker 4: I've been a longtime fan. Oh really, yeah, I followed
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  Speaker 4: your work for years.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's so great. Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I discovered you on Twitter in twenty eleven,
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  Speaker 2: and wow, well it was so cool to watch so
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  Speaker 2: many other people follow you and engage with you as
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  Speaker 2: time went on, and I was wondering if you could
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  Speaker 2: tell everybody how you went from writing witty one liners
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  Speaker 2: to writing featured films in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 5: Oh man, I always wrote scripts and Twitter was just
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  Speaker 5: like throwaway lines during the day, like things I would
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  Speaker 5: text my friends and I used Twitter for that. But
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  Speaker 5: but I was always a writer, and I you know,
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  Speaker 5: took a lot of things in different universities. I was
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  Speaker 5: a photography major, I was an art major, I was
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  Speaker 5: a film major, and I dropped out of all of them.
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  Speaker 5: But writing film and TV was always like such a
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  Speaker 5: passion of mine. And I you know, gained a lot
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  Speaker 5: of followers and fans just from Twitter and got you know,
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  Speaker 5: an agent from from being on Twitter. And when I
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  Speaker 5: got the agent, they were like, well, what do you
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  Speaker 5: want to do with this, because you have a lot
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  Speaker 5: of followers, And I was like, well, I'm a writer,
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  Speaker 5: and and they said, well, send us.
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  Speaker 3: Your stuff and what do you want to do?
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  Speaker 5: And I said, well, I've been blogging, you know, for forever.
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  Speaker 5: I think I started blogging in ninety six on like
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  Speaker 5: Geo Cities or angel Fire. And I wanted to write,
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  Speaker 5: you know, a book of essays because those were too
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  Speaker 5: long to blog, and you know, I was very excited.
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  Speaker 5: I got you know, the book deal, and I started
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  Speaker 5: selling scripts and eventually, you know, as I was writing
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  Speaker 5: these films and features and they were being submitted to directors,
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  Speaker 5: directed were kind of like, you you should direct this one.
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  Speaker 5: And I was like, but that's crazy. I've never directed anything,
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  Speaker 5: and they were like, no, you should really direct this.
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  Speaker 5: And with this script, as I was writing it, I
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  Speaker 5: was like, okay, like I've heard this before, but but
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  Speaker 5: I think this is like the one that I want
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  Speaker 5: to direct. And you know, I was so fortunate that
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  Speaker 5: that Lisa Zambri and Greg Silverman read it and agreed
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  Speaker 5: and said, you know that I should direct the script.
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  Speaker 2: I want to hear all about the directorial experience, but
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  Speaker 2: we did skip over the fact that Jimmy Kimmel offered
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  Speaker 2: you a job, that Jessica album was a huge fan Like,
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  Speaker 2: there were some major moments that we just glossed over there, right,
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  Speaker 2: but they.
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  Speaker 3: Were so long ago now, yeah, they were like twenty ten.
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  Speaker 5: And I, you know, ended up moving to LA because
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  Speaker 5: I got I was in Canada. I'm from Canada, and
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  Speaker 5: I was just so tired of leaving my family and
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  Speaker 5: flying down here for different jobs that you know, real
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  Speaker 5: we relocated here in twenty twelve, and that feels so
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's, you know, almost ten years ago, so
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  Speaker 5: that does feel like ancient history to me, but it
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  Speaker 5: is absolutely a part of my history. You know, Jimmy
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  Speaker 5: Kimmel liked my one liners and my jokes, and he
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  Speaker 5: offered me a position and I wasn't able to take it,
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  Speaker 5: just because you know, my family and the writing projects
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  Speaker 5: that I was contracted to. And you know, Jessica Alba
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  Speaker 5: with somebody who reads a lot and watches, you know,
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  Speaker 5: a lot of TV and film, and she said to me,
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  Speaker 5: you know that she hadn't met another mom that wrote
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  Speaker 5: for her and she found value in that. So she
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  Speaker 5: wanted to, you know, do anything to support me in
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  Speaker 5: my journey. So that's how we became friends way back
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  Speaker 5: into I think.
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  Speaker 2: It's really cool that you mentioned the idea of nobody
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  Speaker 2: writing for moms because I was reading through someone some
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  Speaker 2: of your old work and thinking about your voice is
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  Speaker 2: so distinct, what about it was resonating with people in
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  Speaker 2: two thousand and nine and twenty ten. I have my theory,
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  Speaker 2: do you have sort of an understanding and reflection.
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  Speaker 5: Honestly, I think like there, the more truthful I was
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  Speaker 5: about things, the more people liked it. I think a
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  Speaker 5: lot of people find you know their their mirror self
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  Speaker 5: when they hear like brutal truths about things or you know,
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  Speaker 5: things like that.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that might have been it's what's your theory?
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  Speaker 4: So it's twofold one.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it was almost confession style, which was
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  Speaker 2: shocking in the best way. And then also you have
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  Speaker 2: this quality where it's almost like a great comedian is
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  Speaker 2: able to point out things that everybody sees every day
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  Speaker 2: in a different way, and you're able to write people's
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  Speaker 2: feelings that they feel but don't know how to articulate.
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  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's actually I was
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  Speaker 5: like diagnosed with OCD, and I think that that's like
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  Speaker 5: an OCD thing where I can like get down to
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  Speaker 5: the like the root of things in a way, and
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  Speaker 5: like take something simple like what's an example, Like I
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  Speaker 5: tweeted about how I brush my teeth sometimes at nine
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  Speaker 5: o'clock to prevent myself from snacking more, but like as
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  Speaker 5: if I can't brush my teeth a.
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  Speaker 3: Second time, it's so stupid. But things like that that
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  Speaker 3: you just do every day.
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  Speaker 5: And you know, if it gives me like a giggle,
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  Speaker 5: then I'll usually you know, if I'm thinking about it.
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  Speaker 3: Tweeted out or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because it makes you laugh, it's going to make somebody.
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  Speaker 5: Else laugh exactly. So it is like texting your friend.
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  Speaker 5: I really did use Twitter for that for and I
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  Speaker 5: think I still do. I don't use it as much now,
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  Speaker 5: but it is like like texting a friend.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 2: How did you have the courage to be so so
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  Speaker 2: imperfect so publicly?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I had an option.
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  Speaker 5: I think I am such like a sloppy social person
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  Speaker 5: because of my anxiety that I can't cover that up,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like I can't and I
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  Speaker 5: don't really want to because I don't really care unless
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  Speaker 5: I'm hurting people. And I've never felt like I was
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  Speaker 5: hurting people with my with my honesty. If I have,
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  Speaker 5: I would absolutely be willing and open to discuss those
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  Speaker 5: things too, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I just like being myself and whether that's good or bad,
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  Speaker 5: you know, we can always deal with that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really as a reader, I think so many
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  Speaker 2: people your work appreciate that I don't think it comes
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  Speaker 2: without difficulty, though. You know, I heard you in past
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  Speaker 2: interviews for this film talk about your anxiety and that
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  Speaker 2: a panic attack actually is what caused you to write
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  Speaker 2: this film.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean the moment that I was diagnosed with anxiety
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  Speaker 5: disorder when I was nineteen, I just remember like not
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  Speaker 5: believing it. It was like it was nineteen ninety eight,
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  Speaker 5: so it wasn't like I could google. I couldn't google
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  Speaker 5: what an anxiety disorder was. I just knew that I
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  Speaker 5: didn't I hadn't had a panic attack, and I knew
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  Speaker 5: I was different, but I didn't believe it was an
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  Speaker 5: anxiety disorder.
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  Speaker 3: Like that really freaked me out.
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  Speaker 4: I've heard you talk about how your creativity is kind
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  Speaker 4: of how you deal with your anxiety, and this episode
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  Speaker 4: that you had you turned it into writing this film.
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  Speaker 5: Well, just because it was the biggest, first, biggest moment
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  Speaker 5: of my life, was having a panic attack, And I
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  Speaker 5: always wanted to tell that story because I hadn't seen
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  Speaker 5: that story anywhere, and I feel like this is such
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  Speaker 5: a common thing, you know, why haven't we seen it
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  Speaker 5: and explored it and talked about it and created commute
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  Speaker 5: around it to support each other. So it only really
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  Speaker 5: made sense to me to write it out for even
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  Speaker 5: if it's just for one person, and even if it
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  Speaker 5: didn't get made like, it didn't matter to me, you know.
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  Speaker 5: And when I wrote it for the book, and I
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  Speaker 5: went on my book tour for that book, so many
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  Speaker 5: people came up to me and specified that was their essay,
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  Speaker 5: and that essay really really helped them. And so, you know,
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  Speaker 5: as a writer of scripts, I thought, Wow, wouldn't it
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  Speaker 5: be great if I could eventually one day get this
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  Speaker 5: on screen because we all know, unfortunately, there aren't that
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  Speaker 5: many readers anymore. There's a lot of readers, but not
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  Speaker 5: as many people that go and see films. And I
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  Speaker 5: knew that I would be able to reach a bigger
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  Speaker 5: audience with the story putting it on screen.
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  Speaker 2: Why write it because it's semi autobiographical? Why write it
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  Speaker 2: from a nineteen year old perspective rather than I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how old you were when you experienced it. But
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  Speaker 2: why make the character nine.
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  Speaker 5: Typically people are diagnosed with mental conditions between the ages
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  Speaker 5: of seventeen and twenty five. So I just wanted it
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  Speaker 5: to be, you know, as realistic as possible. And so
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  Speaker 5: that's why I did that it's really cool.
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  Speaker 2: Mental illness touches everybody's family in a different way.
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  Speaker 4: It's touched mine.
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  Speaker 2: And to see a young character deal with anxiety so openly,
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  Speaker 2: I think we'll make so many young kids feel okay
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  Speaker 2: talking about it, it made me really excited to watch.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's great. Yeah, that's what I mean.
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  Speaker 5: That's what we all hoped on set, and it was
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  Speaker 5: such a close knit group of cast and crew. You know,
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  Speaker 5: all of us talked about anxiety and I had, you know,
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  Speaker 5: everybody come up to me and say, in one way
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  Speaker 5: or another how they were drawn to the script and
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  Speaker 5: wanted to work on this story because these sorts of
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  Speaker 5: things did and do affect either them or somebody that
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  Speaker 5: they love. And I just I'm so thankful that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: even for the amount of people that have seen it
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  Speaker 5: now that it's touched so many people. You know, even
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  Speaker 5: if this stopped now and helped as many people that
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  Speaker 5: have already seen it, that would be amazing for me.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm I just feel so grateful, and I'm so
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  Speaker 5: excited for it to be on MTV, just to get
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  Speaker 5: that bigger audience and for so many people to have
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  Speaker 5: access to it is just amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I think people are going to be so excited to
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  Speaker 2: hear that you made this for almost two million dollars
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  Speaker 2: and you filmed it in nineteen days in LA. It's
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  Speaker 2: kind of like the little little film that could, and
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  Speaker 2: you made it happen. You've got big actors like Mary J.
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  Speaker 2: Blige and Winkler.
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  Speaker 3: It was.
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  Speaker 4: It's so exciting to see.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really cool.
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  Speaker 5: And I really hope that that, you know, maybe maybe
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  Speaker 5: it brings back a little more indie for people and
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  Speaker 5: a little less two hundred million dollar movies. And you know,
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  Speaker 5: I really really I hope it does because movies in
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  Speaker 5: the nineties were my favorite. There's so many independent, small
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  Speaker 5: movies that made such a huge difference, and they're all
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  Speaker 5: character driven and they're all, you know, like personal, and
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  Speaker 5: I hope that maybe this gets that ball rolling again
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  Speaker 5: for other filmmakers that only have the option of making
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  Speaker 5: a movie that's two million or less.
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  Speaker 4: You know, yeah, I co sign that.
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  Speaker 5: Ye.
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  Speaker 2: You wrote something on Instagram that I loved so much.
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  Speaker 2: You said women like their forties because the life story
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  Speaker 2: becomes clearer. I feel as though the older I get,
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  Speaker 2: the more time I want to learn and grow. I
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  Speaker 2: rushed the first half.
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  Speaker 4: What did you rush?
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  Speaker 5: I just I just wanted to grow up, Like I
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  Speaker 5: just wanted to grow I was always like, get me
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  Speaker 5: out of here, Like I don't want to be ten,
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  Speaker 5: I want to be fifteen.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to be fifteen. I want to be twenty.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to be twenty. I want to be
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  Speaker 3: twenty five.
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  Speaker 4: Like that's why you loved pretty women?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally.
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  Speaker 5: You know, like always always was just like get me,
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  Speaker 5: get me, like out, and that's a lot of anxiety.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, I'll feel better in two years. I'll
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  Speaker 5: have my shit together then. And instead of just being
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  Speaker 5: okay with not knowing what I was doing or being
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  Speaker 5: okay just like in the moment and appreciating it. I
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  Speaker 5: think that the only time I really slowed down was
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  Speaker 5: when I started having kids and could and could sit
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  Speaker 5: back and really soak that it in. But I had
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  Speaker 5: probably been a mom for maybe six years before, you know,
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  Speaker 5: when I had my third child, my first was five
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  Speaker 5: years old, and I think that's when I finally like
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  Speaker 5: slowed down, you know, like I was doing all these
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  Speaker 5: things for my kids, I was doing this and that,
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  Speaker 5: Like I was just like rushing everything. And I've heard
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  Speaker 5: like a lot of parents say that, like it goes
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  Speaker 5: by too fast, like our kids grow up too fast.
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  Speaker 5: They grow up too fast. And in the moment, it
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  Speaker 5: does not feel that way. It feels like the longest
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  Speaker 5: day of your life. You want to go in the
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  Speaker 5: fridge and get the wine box out and just like
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  Speaker 5: put your mouth under it the fridge, like at the
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  Speaker 5: end of every day. But but you you know, I
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  Speaker 5: really wish that I could go back and be a
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  Speaker 5: little slower and be happy, you know, in that moment,
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  Speaker 5: rather than just trying to escape and get to the
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  Speaker 5: next moment.
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  Speaker 2: I love your windy story. It feels like Glennon Doyle
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  Speaker 2: esque a little bit like it the life that you
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  Speaker 2: thought you should live and then you started living the
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  Speaker 2: one you wanted to live.
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  Speaker 3: Is that Yeah, that totally makes sense. Yeah for sure.
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  Speaker 5: I mean I've gone through so much and even in
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  Speaker 5: the last like ten years, my life has changed so
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  Speaker 5: so drastically. And I was really happy with my first
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  Speaker 5: I like to call it like my first life, like
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  Speaker 5: my first life in Canada. I was really happy doing that.
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  Speaker 5: But but I needed to fulfill my creative side and
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  Speaker 5: I was so lucky that you know, people in the
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  Speaker 5: States valued what I was saying because as a Canadian,
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  Speaker 5: you know, a female Canadian, I didn't ever expect to
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  Speaker 5: get a shot at anything, you know, Like I wasn't wealthy,
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  Speaker 5: my parents weren't wealthy, dropped out of university a bunch
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  Speaker 5: of times, like I had stuff to say, and I
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  Speaker 5: loved writing and I loved taking writing classes, but I
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  Speaker 5: really never expected to have a shot at anything. And
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  Speaker 5: even as the shots were coming, I was like, like
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  Speaker 5: this can't last, you know, Like whatever, I'm just going
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  Speaker 5: to keep doing what I'm doing because it's working and
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  Speaker 5: see what happens. And yeah, the journey is was totally unplanned.
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  Speaker 5: None of these things were goals that I ever thought
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  Speaker 5: I would actually reach or even dreamt up, because because
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  Speaker 5: it just wasn't a part of anybody's story that I
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  Speaker 5: had ever met, you know. So yeah, it's everything's taken
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  Speaker 5: a huge change, for sure, but you know, I think
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  Speaker 5: that we're all a lot happier, you know, in my
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  Speaker 5: family too. Just your kids really need to see their
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  Speaker 5: parents thrive, even though they're not interested in it. Like
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  Speaker 5: my kids love the movie, which is amazing, Like I
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  Speaker 5: can't believe they even watched it. And you know, because
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  Speaker 5: it's their mom's thing, and moms aren't cool.
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  Speaker 3: But they watched the movie and it touched them, which
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  Speaker 3: which meant a lot to me.
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  Speaker 2: Was it hard being the boss on set? Was it
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  Speaker 2: hard calling all the shots or was it exciting?
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  Speaker 3: It was easier than I thought.
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  Speaker 5: I thought that it was going to be difficult for
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  Speaker 5: me because I'm like a people pleaser, But it was
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  Speaker 5: like being a mom, Like I had to like delegate
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  Speaker 5: things and.
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  Speaker 3: Do three things at once. And I was like, oh, I've.
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  Speaker 5: Been training for this for like, like I'm really I
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  Speaker 5: know like how to do all this stuff already, and
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  Speaker 5: I know how to do it like in an empathetic,
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  Speaker 5: sympathetic way because I've done this with my children, and
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  Speaker 5: I've worked in groups, you know, trying to get something
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  Speaker 5: done every day with more than one person. I've almost
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  Speaker 5: never been alone in my life. It was either me
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  Speaker 5: with my family that raised me, or me with the
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  Speaker 5: family that I was raising. And putting together a cast
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  Speaker 5: and crew is a lot like a family. And I
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  Speaker 5: respected everybody so much for their talents, Like making a
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  Speaker 5: movie is the biggest art project you could ever make,
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  Speaker 5: and everybody brings their talents to the table and they're
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  Speaker 5: also skilled and what one person can do when another
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  Speaker 5: person can't do, so you have to, you know, naturally,
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  Speaker 5: you just respect that and respect the people and what
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  Speaker 5: they're doing. And you know, for them, the director is
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  Speaker 5: somebody who says, here is my vision, and this is
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  Speaker 5: what I want to see, what's going to happen here,
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  Speaker 5: and for them to bring everything forward was just like it.
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  Speaker 3: Was so cool.
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  Speaker 5: It was so much fun, and you know, I want
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  Speaker 5: to direct again as soon as possible, just because I
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  Speaker 5: value that art that everybody brings together. It's so fun,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and the actors especially, like I love actors
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: and I love watching them just do what they do.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: It's so much fun. And I was so happy with
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: the cast that we had and the range of actors
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: that we got was just like a dream.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Moms are the greatest producers of all time. You just
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: may think about that. I always do a little rapid fire.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: So one book that changed your life, something that everybody
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: should read, Oh my.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: God, you know the book that probably it's the writer
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: that probably changed my life was Judy Bloom, And I
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: want kids to still read Judy Bloom. She came to
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: life like I started reading her like so young and
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: she and she just brought like so much emotion. She
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: made me feel normal for having a lot of emotions
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: when I was a kid, because nobody ever told me
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: that my inner workings and my inner were a thing.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: And you go through so many emotions when you're a
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: little kid, and to read those books and read about
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: other kids having all of those emotions made me feel normal.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: So I think that was the first that she was
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: definitely the first writer that did that for me.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: She was the first author that I read that had
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: these really complicated, imperfect young friend at the forefront of
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: her books.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: It was it made me feel normal too.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: Judiah bite and talked about sex, So that was like
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: so much fun to read too.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean, What is the smartest decision
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: you've ever made? Oh?
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: My god, honestly, I think it was following my instincts
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: to start a family young. I'm really thankful that i'm
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: you know, where I'm at in life, and my kids
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: are also older, and I know that that's an odd
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: decision to have children young, especially today, but I'm really
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: thankful that I that I did that. And yeah, I
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: think is that when.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: You mentioned kind of fast forwarding through some of your years.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Is there a moment that you wish you could relive
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: that you didn't fully live out in the moment?
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, I think I was thinking about this
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: the other day. No, No, there's no specific moment, but
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: there's definitely like vacations I wish I could take for
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: like another.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Month, you know what I mean.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: Those moments, like those really peaceful fun moments with your
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: friends are like but there's no there's no like regret.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: But I wish I could like have those party nights.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: A little longer.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: That the pandemic's over. You'll make up for them.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right for sure. Thank you so much for
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: your time, Kelly. I'm really excited for everybody to see
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: the movie.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much. That means a lot to me.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, take care, take care.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: If you want more Kelly Oxford than Jesse's twenty Minutes,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: which I'm sure you do, make sure to check out
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: her new film, Takes Guys Ahead on the TV. All Right,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: today's a good day.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: To have a good day. I'll see you next week.