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- 0:03Speaker 1: General, another show, fresh, hot off the press. Good to
- 0:07Speaker 1: see you, my friend.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Good to see you as well, sir.
- 0:09Speaker 1: We're zeroing in on the 2026 midterm elections at the
- 0:14Speaker 1: federal level. At these midterm elections, we have state elections.
- 0:19Speaker 1: We always have, every two years, you always have state
- 0:24Speaker 1: reps are running. By the way, I do want to
- 0:27Speaker 1: mention to everybody, at least the listeners in Columbus, greater
- 0:31Speaker 1: Central Ohio area, era area, there is a Koffel on
- 0:35Speaker 1: the ballot.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Indeed, there is.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Cameron Koffel, my son, 24, is attending law school at night.
- 0:43Speaker 1: He is working part time for me. Well, it's kind
- 0:46Speaker 1: of suspended that because he decided last year he wanted
- 0:50Speaker 1: to run for the statehouse. He wants to get into politics.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Much to my dismay. I mean, you and I, we
- 0:58Speaker 1: sit outside the political arena and throw rocks and.
- 1:01Speaker 2: I wouldn't say dismay. Chagrin.
- 1:03Speaker 1: I don't know the difference between dismay and chagrin. I
- 1:05Speaker 1: didn't say chagrin because that's what everyone's expecting me to say,
- 1:08Speaker 1: so I went with dismay. I'm proud of him not
- 1:12Speaker 1: because he's throwing in. I'm proud of him because he
- 1:17Speaker 1: is showing initiative first by rebuking both parties. He is
- 1:24Speaker 1: not– he chose not to affiliate with either the Democrat
- 1:28Speaker 1: or Republican parties. Of course, if he affiliated with the
- 1:30Speaker 1: Democrat party, we might have a little tougher conversation at home.
- 1:35Speaker 1: But even affiliating with the Republican party, I– of which
- 1:41Speaker 1: I've been in and out of for 40 years, currently out.
- 1:51Speaker 1: He said, Dad, look– You keep saying, and I've heard
- 1:55Speaker 1: you say this my whole life, who's in charge? Who's
- 2:01Speaker 1: making these decisions? Dad, you're an entrepreneur. You're an attorney.
- 2:06Speaker 1: You own your own business. You have kind of pushed
- 2:13Speaker 1: this work ethic of individualism on us. But there's also
- 2:17Speaker 1: a need for– I'm not going to say socialism. We're
- 2:20Speaker 1: going to call it collectivism. It's a membership in society
- 2:25Speaker 1: that when you become a member of a society, you
- 2:27Speaker 1: have to surrender some individualism, some of your individual rights
- 2:33Speaker 1: to participate in the greater good.
- 2:36Speaker 2: This is what we're.
- 2:37Speaker 1: Going to talk about today. The Democrats have gone far
- 2:41Speaker 1: left into the communism freezer.
- 2:45Speaker 2: But that is where they were always headed.
- 2:48Speaker 1: I disagree, and this is what this show is about.
- 2:52Speaker 1: The Republican Party has just– I don't know. Trump has
- 2:56Speaker 1: taken over. It's Trump's party. We might as well just
- 2:59Speaker 1: call it MAGA right now. And the rest of the
- 3:02Speaker 1: GOP is just kind of waiting for him to dither
- 3:05Speaker 1: and his second term to expire.
- 3:08Speaker 2: What's so interesting to me about him is that he
- 3:11Speaker 2: was a democrat in the 80s and his politics really
- 3:15Speaker 2: haven't changed.
- 3:15Speaker 1: No, he's not a party. He's like– if you actually
- 3:18Speaker 1: drill down, if you bypass– If you bypass the pre-programmed media,
- 3:26Speaker 1: if you bypass the idiocy of social media, quote, influencers,
- 3:32Speaker 1: if you actually step back and look at everything the
- 3:35Speaker 1: guy talks about, it's everything every rational American would want.
- 3:42Speaker 2: He's an 80s Democrat that does not want to go
- 3:44Speaker 2: any further.
- 3:46Speaker 1: How he does it, look, there are some really good
- 3:49Speaker 1: lawyers– Trial lawyers, you know, we're in the courtroom, they're
- 3:53Speaker 1: in the courtroom, but they have totally different bedside manners.
- 3:56Speaker 1: How you are, bedside manners versus, which is how you
- 4:01Speaker 1: get there. But we all are aiming for the same thing,
- 4:04Speaker 1: the best result for our client. Trump's got different bedside
- 4:07Speaker 1: manners than Josh Hawley. Trump's got different bedside manners than.
- 4:13Speaker 2: Schumer, right?
- 4:14Speaker 1: Bernie, you name it. But you don't let bedside manners
- 4:18Speaker 1: get in the way of the target. the results. And
- 4:22Speaker 1: right now, like for instance, right now, he's in UN week,
- 4:25Speaker 1: it's his Super Bowl, and he gets to be bombastic
- 4:31Speaker 1: on our behalf. But you got to get past the
- 4:33Speaker 1: bedside manners. Now, there are a lot of listeners right
- 4:37Speaker 1: now that say, look, I still don't like what he's
- 4:38Speaker 1: talking about. Let me say this. And here's a fact
- 4:45Speaker 1: that this is just fact. We now know that Homo sapiens,
- 4:50Speaker 1: has been walking around on this planet, yes, it's round,
- 4:54Speaker 1: for roughly 300,000 years. Civilization, meaning cities, writing, canals, water redistribution, farming,
- 5:06Speaker 1: the whole production, that only got going about 5,000, 5,500
- 5:09Speaker 1: years ago. Percentage-wise, 98% of human history Nobody built a city.
- 5:18Speaker 1: Nobody wrote a grocery list. Nobody was late to a meeting.
- 5:22Speaker 1: There was just a field and whatever was trying to
- 5:25Speaker 1: eat you in that field. So we're in the 2%
- 5:30Speaker 1: of history right now. If you go back, now we're back,
- 5:33Speaker 1: let's go back 5,500 years ago. We're BC, BC. We're
- 5:38Speaker 1: in that 2%. Now, if you just go back to Jesus,
- 5:42Speaker 1: we're in the 1% of time. Recorded time.
- 5:46Speaker 2: Recorded time, right?
- 5:47Speaker 1: Our best guesstimate. Our ancestors spent 300,000 years accomplishing, from
- 5:54Speaker 1: modern day standpoint, almost exactly what you will accomplish on
- 6:00Speaker 1: a regular Saturday afternoon. You will live, you'll wake up,
- 6:05Speaker 1: you'll tend to yourself, you'll tend to your loved ones,
- 6:09Speaker 1: you'll eat, you'll drink water, you will rest, and you
- 6:14Speaker 1: will sleep. maybe throw in some social, a little bit
- 6:20Speaker 1: of having some social interaction.
- 6:22Speaker 2: Well, even the prehistoric people had college football. That's true.
- 6:26Speaker 1: I forgot about that. What cable channel was that?
- 6:30Speaker 2: Do you remember? I think it was BC1.
- 6:38Speaker 1: So here's the other thing. This didn't just happen in
- 6:40Speaker 1: one spot. We all talk about the nerds. We talk
- 6:44Speaker 1: about Mesopotamia. We talk about the the breadbasket there on
- 6:48Speaker 1: the eastern side of the Mediterranean.
- 6:50Speaker 2: The Sumerians.
- 6:53Speaker 1: This, you know, a guy in a toga in Athens
- 6:57Speaker 1: didn't invent civilization and everyone else around the world waiting
- 7:01Speaker 1: for the memo. This happened spontaneously around the world. Egypt, China,
- 7:08Speaker 1: a bunch of folks in what we call Mexico, folks
- 7:12Speaker 1: down in what we call Peru, interesting thing about those
- 7:16Speaker 1: people down in South America, somehow they got there early
- 7:19Speaker 1: enough to skip the line entirely. We're not quite sure
- 7:21Speaker 1: how they got all the way down there about the
- 7:22Speaker 1: same time, but either way, none of them called each
- 7:25Speaker 1: other first. They all just independently at some point looked
- 7:28Speaker 1: at a pile of grain and thought, you know what
- 7:30Speaker 1: this situation needs? It needs a guy whose entire job
- 7:33Speaker 1: is writing down exactly how much grain there is and
- 7:35Speaker 1: how much, how many people we have and how to
- 7:38Speaker 1: make this work so we can live, so we can
- 7:40Speaker 1: live together. When you live together, You have protection from
- 7:44Speaker 1: the things in the field that want to eat you.
- 7:47Speaker 1: We want to live together. And so that, folks, was
- 7:50Speaker 1: the world's first middle manager. And civilization never really moved
- 7:54Speaker 1: past the middle manager. That's kind of how things start, right? Now,
- 8:01Speaker 1: once we stopped wandering and started farming, now we have
- 8:06Speaker 1: two brand new problems. Brand new problems. First, we have
- 8:12Speaker 1: stuff worth stealing. So the concept of private property, it's mine.
- 8:18Speaker 1: And number two, people close enough to steal it. We
- 8:23Speaker 1: don't want you here. So you have these two competing.
- 8:28Speaker 1: That's mine, not yours. And who are you?
- 8:32Speaker 2: Go away.
- 8:34Speaker 1: Get out of my camp. That's how we if you're
- 8:38Speaker 1: going to boil this all the way down to its.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Particle level. That's my– that's where I go. That's where
- 8:48Speaker 1: I go. And then like, you know, we're having a
- 8:54Speaker 1: hard time with these other people coming in here and
- 8:57Speaker 1: trying to take our stuff. So maybe it's time to
- 9:00Speaker 1: build a wall. So now you start building walls. You
- 9:03Speaker 1: start having circles. You're in a circle.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Remember in 2015 when they said it could never be done? Yeah.
- 9:10Speaker 1: Well, talk to the– Now they're angry that it has.
- 9:12Speaker 1: They built– oh, geez. In the Bronze Age– They build
- 9:15Speaker 1: a wall six miles around a city. I mean, there
- 9:19Speaker 1: are many places, many places. The equivalent of a ring doorbell.
- 9:27Speaker 1: But instead of trying to catch someone stealing your Amazon package,
- 9:30Speaker 1: it's some guy trying to steal your entire food and
- 9:34Speaker 1: usurp your civilization.
- 9:35Speaker 2: Wife and kids.
- 9:36Speaker 1: Right. Then at some point in time, we need one
- 9:40Speaker 1: guy to kind of be the– the leader. You know,
- 9:45Speaker 1: there's always going to be an alpha. This picks up
- 9:47Speaker 1: on our last show.
- 9:48Speaker 2: Alpha.
- 9:48Speaker 1: There's going to be an alpha. It's going to be
- 9:49Speaker 1: a male. It's going to be a male. I'm sure
- 9:51Speaker 1: there were female alphas, but historically, alphas. And they called
- 9:55Speaker 1: them kings. So let's take a break. Let's come back
- 9:58Speaker 1: and pick up on this. We will get to modern
- 10:00Speaker 1: day America in November.
- 10:02Speaker 2: I promise.
- 10:10Speaker 1: Welcome back. This is For the Defense of the American People.
- 10:13Speaker 1: I'm Attorney Brad Koffel. That is the general. We are
- 10:19Speaker 1: Kind of picking up on our last show. The last
- 10:21Speaker 1: show was, you know, America, we can't lose our alpha males.
- 10:26Speaker 1: You need every culture, every society, every band, every platoon,
- 10:34Speaker 1: every pack of monkeys. What do they call a pack
- 10:39Speaker 1: of monkeys? A troop. A troop. Every troop, every pride
- 10:43Speaker 1: needs an alpha. Historically, it tends to be an alpha male.
- 10:47Speaker 1: I guess it'd be alpha female, likely lesbian, but whatever.
- 10:50Speaker 1: Who cares? Sexual preference. There's an alpha. How do you
- 10:54Speaker 1: deal with alphas? Well, let's go back on our first segment.
- 10:58Speaker 1: We're talking about as civilization has evolved, we've had to
- 11:04Speaker 1: deal with the economics inside the domestic unit, and we've
- 11:11Speaker 1: had to deal with protection from the outsiders. So Once
- 11:16Speaker 1: we stopped wandering, we started farming. We had a little abundance.
- 11:21Speaker 1: People figured out, hey, we don't need to work all
- 11:25Speaker 1: summer and starve all winter. We can move over. We
- 11:28Speaker 1: can migrate over here. They can get us through the winter.
- 11:32Speaker 1: And then you need an official, kind of like a sheriff,
- 11:36Speaker 1: to police to make sure that your stuff's not getting
- 11:39Speaker 1: stolen and other people aren't coming in and changing your
- 11:43Speaker 1: value system, changing your culture. This goes backwards. 5,000 years,
- 11:47Speaker 1: if not longer.
- 11:49Speaker 2: Indeed, to the Middle East, it comes from the word Sharif.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Kings, as best we can tell, started out as a
- 11:55Speaker 1: temporary emergency hire, kind of like a college quarterback these days.
- 12:01Speaker 1: The ancient version of calling in a consultant, except the
- 12:05Speaker 1: consultant never left, and eventually his son got the job too.
- 12:09Speaker 1: But the king was kind of that alpha male, and
- 12:11Speaker 1: the king could draft you to go dig a canal
- 12:14Speaker 1: for free. which is the collective option, and it lets
- 12:18Speaker 1: the regular people, the skilled people, to actually deploy their skill.
- 12:28Speaker 1: So you're not good with the clay tablets.
- 12:34Speaker 2: And the.
- 12:37Speaker 1: Arithmetic on our inventory.
- 12:39Speaker 2: You suck.
- 12:40Speaker 1: You're not reading these clay tablets well at all. In fact,
- 12:43Speaker 1: you can't even read Go dig that ditch. Make the
- 12:47Speaker 1: canal bigger. That's collectivism recognizing individualism.
- 12:55Speaker 2: I would look at it from a slightly different point
- 12:57Speaker 2: of view, that there are things that we give up,
- 13:01Speaker 2: certain rights we give up to get greater rights and
- 13:03Speaker 2: abilities in a different area. So it's a rational trade.
- 13:07Speaker 2: You give up your right to drive 100 miles an
- 13:09Speaker 2: hour through downtown Columbus and ignore all traffic signals because
- 13:13Speaker 2: You give that up in order to reach your destination safely,
- 13:17Speaker 2: which is more important to you, but it's a voluntary thing.
- 13:20Speaker 1: You can jump over to homeowners association, especially as the
- 13:24Speaker 1: older generation, those of us in 55 and up, we
- 13:29Speaker 1: start looking at where do I want to live the
- 13:31Speaker 1: last hopefully quarter of my life outside Columbus, Ohio, where
- 13:35Speaker 1: it seems to rain all the time. And so right now,
- 13:39Speaker 1: like for me, the coffles, I will not be in
- 13:42Speaker 1: an HOA. It's just against– cuts against my grain. I
- 13:45Speaker 1: need my individual sovereignty. That's just– it's in my blood.
- 13:50Speaker 1: I can't have a second home in an HOA. I
- 13:55Speaker 1: don't want some Karen across the street telling my wife
- 13:58Speaker 1: not to plant those types of flowers.
- 14:00Speaker 2: But you also don't want to stop and go as
- 14:02Speaker 2: your next-door neighbor.
- 14:04Speaker 1: Correct. So you got to be smart about it. And
- 14:06Speaker 1: there you get– that's– OK. OK. We can move into
- 14:10Speaker 1: the different type. Right there, we could move into cultural
- 14:13Speaker 1: institutions and listening to your elders about where to go. Anywho,
- 14:20Speaker 1: so you have the kings. They kind of morph, and
- 14:24Speaker 1: they now are shifting the chess pieces and that little
- 14:29Speaker 1: civilization around. And then you get the Hammurabi code, the law.
- 14:35Speaker 1: The first time that it's written down, And it authorized
- 14:40Speaker 1: the king to make you dig the canal, but it
- 14:43Speaker 1: also said the king can't just walk into your house
- 14:47Speaker 1: and take your property or take your stuff. So that's
- 14:49Speaker 1: kind of– we kind of get it reduced to writing.
- 14:52Speaker 1: Here's the deal.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Well, it was nicely and conveniently also carved in stone,
- 14:56Speaker 2: so it couldn't be readily changed.
- 14:59Speaker 1: Literally carved in stone.
- 15:00Speaker 2: Yes. Right.
- 15:01Speaker 1: So you start to see the development of property rights
- 15:05Speaker 1: and individual rights. And then you get the birth of institution.
- 15:13Speaker 1: So specialization kind of starts with specialization. Take a potter,
- 15:17Speaker 1: a guy who's really good with his hands or a
- 15:19Speaker 1: man or woman gets really good with their hands. They're
- 15:21Speaker 1: good at making pots. That's great for him or her
- 15:25Speaker 1: personally right up until he realizes it. You can't eat
- 15:30Speaker 1: a pot. I can't eat this pot. I've been busy
- 15:33Speaker 1: so long making these pots, but my kids can't eat
- 15:36Speaker 1: pots for dinner. And so now you start trade. And
- 15:41Speaker 1: with this trade, we have the ability to communicate. We
- 15:48Speaker 1: need writings, be able to write things down. The first
- 15:51Speaker 1: writings were not poems or prayers. They were not. They
- 15:56Speaker 1: were an inventory, someone counting sheep, someone else counting other
- 16:01Speaker 1: items that could be traded. You kind of need to
- 16:03Speaker 1: know what inventory is for trade. So that you– again,
- 16:07Speaker 1: your family didn't starve. So accounting came first, then art
- 16:13Speaker 1: and lawyers somewhere in between the two. That's how– you agree?
- 16:19Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
- 16:19Speaker 1: Good, good, good. OK.
- 16:20Speaker 2: To the order.
- 16:21Speaker 1: Now, let's fast forward thousands of years. Let's go to
- 16:27Speaker 1: Germany post-World War II.
- 16:29Speaker 2: If we have to.
- 16:31Speaker 1: Take Germany. Germany ran the experiment that the– The American
- 16:37Speaker 1: Democrat Party, the socialists, communists want to run. They want
- 16:42Speaker 1: to run this playbook. Germany ran the playbook.
- 16:46Speaker 2: Well, they were also running it before World War II
- 16:49Speaker 2: as well.
- 16:49Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's– we can really see it after– Under
- 16:52Speaker 1: the National Socialists. We can really– yeah. But we really
- 16:55Speaker 1: fine-tune it here. Let's look at middle 20th century. Germany
- 16:59Speaker 1: runs this playbook that Mamdani wants to run. AOC wants
- 17:03Speaker 1: to run. Whoever is going to run for president for
- 17:06Speaker 1: the Democrat Party is going to promise to run this playbook.
- 17:10Speaker 1: And for– it's– you can see that after the wall
- 17:16Speaker 1: came down, the people on the west side of the
- 17:20Speaker 1: wall had roughly tripled the income per person than the
- 17:25Speaker 1: people on the east side of the wall.
- 17:29Speaker 2: Correct.
- 17:30Speaker 1: People on the west side of the wall– had much
- 17:32Speaker 1: better cars than the people on the east side of
- 17:35Speaker 1: the wall.
- 17:36Speaker 2: I wonder what makes that different. What is it?
- 17:42Speaker 1: The east side of the wall had a two-stroke engine
- 17:44Speaker 1: and a waiting list measured in years. Literally. Let's look
- 17:51Speaker 1: at Korea. Korea did the same thing. One peninsula, one people,
- 17:57Speaker 1: split a line on a map. Today, one side has,
- 18:00Speaker 1: on the south, has Samsungs. Among others, the other side,
- 18:04Speaker 1: as far as anyone can tell.
- 18:06Speaker 2: 20 year waiting list for horses.
- 18:08Speaker 1: From satellite photos taken at night, a light bulb shortage.
- 18:11Speaker 1: I mean, OK, let's go far east, China. After Mao's revolution.
- 18:21Speaker 1: And we we we don't need to go into the
- 18:24Speaker 1: crimes against humanity and what Mao did. And that revolution did.
- 18:28Speaker 2: Where's Uncle Ho?
- 18:29Speaker 1: Or the Soviets and what they did.
- 18:32Speaker 2: Where's Uncle Zolenev?
- 18:35Speaker 1: Yeah. In 1978, China let farmers own their land again.
- 18:39Speaker 1: And roughly 800 million people climbed out of property. I'm sorry, poverty.
- 18:45Speaker 2: Into property.
- 18:46Speaker 1: Into property, right?
- 18:49Speaker 2: So. That was just coincidental, according to the communists.
- 18:55Speaker 1: So plenty of smart people will tell you America's post-war
- 18:59Speaker 1: boom was– and this is true. It was heavy on
- 19:06Speaker 1: public investment, meaning public dollars, highways, research money, the whole apparatus.
- 19:12Speaker 1: Sitting underneath all that was private enterprise. But when you
- 19:15Speaker 1: line up every one of these natural experiments side by side,
- 19:18Speaker 1: the answer keeps landing in the same place over and
- 19:22Speaker 1: over and over again. Like my golf ball that keeps
- 19:25Speaker 1: hitting the same bunker at the course I play on
- 19:28Speaker 1: the first hole.
- 19:29Speaker 2: You need to switch courses.
- 19:31Speaker 1: OK, so there's we've talked about the wisdom inside old fences.
- 19:38Speaker 2: G.K.
- 19:38Speaker 1: Chesterton saying don't tear down a fence until you first
- 19:42Speaker 1: learned why it was put up. These are the lessons
- 19:45Speaker 1: that the American people need to be able to understand and.
- 19:50Speaker 1: and articulate to their younger generation, to their youth. Make
- 19:56Speaker 1: sure they're educated. Sounds sexy when Mamdani's talking about rent
- 20:02Speaker 1: controls when the 25-year-olds from college grabs who want to
- 20:07Speaker 1: live in New York City but can't afford to rent.
- 20:09Speaker 1: Sounds sexy. We've got to talk wisdom. Before we get
- 20:19Speaker 1: back into the show, General, a little pump the tires
- 20:22Speaker 1: for Chesron Automotive.
- 20:24Speaker 2: Well, speaking of capitalism and the wonderful products that capitalism
- 20:28Speaker 2: creates for us and evolves for us over the years,
- 20:33Speaker 2: you have a dealership up in the Delaware area that
- 20:36Speaker 2: if you were to drive north on 23– Or south.
- 20:40Speaker 2: Or south, depending on where you're coming from, because the
- 20:44Speaker 2: reach of this radio station is massive. Unlimited. Yes. You
- 20:49Speaker 2: would eventually come to this nirvana of car purchasing where
- 20:53Speaker 2: you come in there, you're not pressured, you're not set upon,
- 20:58Speaker 2: you'll be treated fairly.
- 20:59Speaker 1: They've been around a bit.
- 21:01Speaker 2: They have. And you don't stay in business that long
- 21:04Speaker 2: with such good recommendations on the internet that unless you
- 21:09Speaker 2: treat people with respect.
- 21:09Speaker 1: You know what I like? They haven't tried to open
- 21:13Speaker 1: up multiple dealerships. They haven't tried to go buy a
- 21:17Speaker 1: bunch of dealerships and try to just make that compound
- 21:21Speaker 1: their profits. They're just sitting pretty right where they are,
- 21:24Speaker 1: taking care of people, doing what they're supposed to do.
- 21:27Speaker 2: Love it. They're doing what they do well.
- 21:29Speaker 1: Today, the general and I were talking about how do
- 21:32Speaker 1: we communicate to the younger generation that collectivism, a.k.a. communism,
- 21:36Speaker 1: socialism— American, this new form of American socialism, the Democrat Party.
- 21:44Speaker 1: How do we how do we talk them out of
- 21:46Speaker 1: what they're being sold? You've got some. You've got some
- 21:52Speaker 1: gregarious young political candidate upstarts like Dhani in New York City,
- 21:58Speaker 1: Abdul El Zayed in Michigan. You've got and there's more.
- 22:06Speaker 1: And I'm not even getting into the religion piece of this,
- 22:09Speaker 1: which is a much bigger, bigger issue than this particular show.
- 22:15Speaker 1: And we've danced around that. And we will stay on that.
- 22:18Speaker 1: I think that's– we must stay on that. We must
- 22:21Speaker 1: stay on that. This is a Judeo-Christian land. And before
- 22:27Speaker 1: we let another religion move in without infringing on their
- 22:33Speaker 1: First Amendment rights– where they move into the political system
- 22:36Speaker 1: and want to start rewriting the laws to match their religion.
- 22:40Speaker 1: There needs to be a lot of checks and balances
- 22:42Speaker 1: in place.
- 22:42Speaker 2: Well, if you look at their handbook, it's not just
- 22:47Speaker 2: a religion. It's also a theocracy. They're trying to take
- 22:51Speaker 2: over governments.
- 22:51Speaker 1: We must be on the stand on the walls of
- 22:55Speaker 1: freedom for them to practice their religion while standing on
- 23:01Speaker 1: the towers, the watchtowers. as JFK would say.
- 23:05Speaker 2: A free exercise for ourselves.
- 23:07Speaker 1: Yeah, of our sovereignty. So here's the thing. Here's the thing.
- 23:14Speaker 1: If you're going to live in America, you're going to
- 23:16Speaker 1: reap all the benefits of living in America. But you've quietly, silently,
- 23:22Speaker 1: unbeknownst to you, surrendered a lot of your individual rights.
- 23:25Speaker 1: You can't go anywhere right now. This is changing, but
- 23:27Speaker 1: you can't go anywhere right now without being surveilled, videos surveilled.
- 23:32Speaker 1: It's coming under greater scrutiny with the flock camera system,
- 23:35Speaker 1: but it's not going to go anywhere. You can't communicate
- 23:39Speaker 1: on your iMessages or Snap or text without signing off
- 23:45Speaker 1: terms and conditions, and you sign away a lot of
- 23:48Speaker 1: your right to privacy. The government can send a subpoena
- 23:54Speaker 1: to Apple or Meta and get your Facebook account, get
- 23:58Speaker 1: your e-mails.
- 24:00Speaker 2: Your Instagram account.
- 24:01Speaker 1: Get your text messages. Get your photos. Yes, they can.
- 24:06Speaker 2: Your Snapchats.
- 24:08Speaker 1: Without your knowledge. So you surrender a lot. There's a tradeoff.
- 24:16Speaker 1: You also don't need to go out, mount a horse,
- 24:21Speaker 1: and go out into the plains and try to track
- 24:24Speaker 1: down a buffalo. We've improved upon that. You don't need
- 24:30Speaker 1: to grow your own food, although not a bad idea.
- 24:34Speaker 2: Not a bad idea.
- 24:35Speaker 1: There's a tradeoff, right? There's always a tradeoff. It's never
- 24:38Speaker 1: just one way. It's not just the Republican way. It's
- 24:40Speaker 1: not just the Democrat way. Again, I'm going to pump
- 24:43Speaker 1: my– I'm going to toot my son's horn here. He's
- 24:46Speaker 1: running for the statehouse to represent Upper Arlington, Grandview, parts
- 24:50Speaker 1: of Clintonville. And if you want a yard sign, a
- 24:54Speaker 1: call for a yard sign, text me. I tell you what,
- 24:58Speaker 1: email me rather, Brad at KoffelLaw.com, Brad at KoffelLaw.com. If
- 25:03Speaker 1: you would like a Koffel Yard sign, and you're in
- 25:06Speaker 1: the district, or even if you're not in the district,
- 25:08Speaker 1: you just want a Koffel Yard sign, that'd be great too.
- 25:11Speaker 1: But my son's on to something. He's like, look, Dad,
- 25:16Speaker 1: this isn't just Republican and Democrat. This just isn't capitalism
- 25:19Speaker 1: versus socialism. There needs to be a tradeoff. We just
- 25:23Speaker 1: need to make sure that the tradeoffs match common sense.
- 25:26Speaker 1: They go through the common sense doctrine, one of my
- 25:29Speaker 1: favorite doctrines. Is that one of your favorite doctrines?
- 25:31Speaker 2: It is my only doctrine.
- 25:35Speaker 1: You clearly don't have a doctrine for clothing and attire.
- 25:39Speaker 2: I don't.
- 25:40Speaker 1: What is your doctrine for your attire?
- 25:43Speaker 2: As I explained to these young skulls full of oatmeal,
- 25:48Speaker 2: your appearance does not matter much.
- 25:51Speaker 1: Anyhow, I digress. You're a very handsome gentleman.
- 25:54Speaker 2: I wouldn't agree.
- 25:55Speaker 1: The the here's the trap. Here's the trap. I spent
- 26:03Speaker 1: I've got a daughter down at Ole Miss. Conservative, very
- 26:07Speaker 1: conservative part of the country. Let's define conservative. We're willing
- 26:10Speaker 1: to progress. But not as fast as you want to.
- 26:15Speaker 1: We're willing to engage in progress. But not as fast
- 26:19Speaker 1: as you want to. We have our traditions, our rituals.
- 26:26Speaker 1: We aren't going to surrender them ever. We're just not.
- 26:30Speaker 1: We're not going to surrender our traditions and our rituals.
- 26:35Speaker 1: And there are these invisible fences down in the south
- 26:39Speaker 1: that are tradition and ritual. One is all the young
- 26:43Speaker 1: men and women down there say yes, sir, no, sir,
- 26:44Speaker 1: primarily the boys. Yes, sir, no, sir.
- 26:47Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am and no, ma'am.
- 26:48Speaker 1: Yep. Love it.
- 26:50Speaker 2: Love it.
- 26:51Speaker 1: Tradition, ritual, respect, love it.
- 26:55Speaker 2: Yes, sir. No, sir.
- 26:57Speaker 1: Good boys. Good young ladies.
- 26:59Speaker 2: Love it.
- 27:01Speaker 1: There are some fences. There are some traditions in the
- 27:04Speaker 1: South that need to go away. The old fence of
- 27:07Speaker 1: the Jim Crow laws, the old fence of slavery needed
- 27:10Speaker 1: to go down.
- 27:11Speaker 2: Brought to you by Democrats.
- 27:13Speaker 1: So when G.K. Chesterton tells the story, about a reformer
- 27:20Speaker 1: who wants to tear down a fence. Because the reformer
- 27:24Speaker 1: can't see the point of why that fence is there.
- 27:29Speaker 1: The wise move is to tell him, fine, go find
- 27:32Speaker 1: out why it is there first, and then we'll talk
- 27:35Speaker 1: about tearing it down. This is also, incidentally, excellent advice
- 27:39Speaker 1: for anyone about to remodel a kitchen, renovate a courthouse,
- 27:43Speaker 1: or rewrite a 900-page statute at 11 o'clock at night.
- 27:47Speaker 1: Just slow down. We will take down old, bad old fences.
- 27:55Speaker 1: Jim Crow is the proof that our society, America, will
- 27:58Speaker 1: do it. We will do it. But we're not tearing
- 28:01Speaker 1: down every fence you don't like. We will talk about
- 28:06Speaker 1: why these invisible fences are there, these tradition, rituals, customs.
- 28:12Speaker 1: And there are going to be some fences that we're
- 28:14Speaker 1: just not going to let you take down. So the
- 28:18Speaker 1: Great American Experiment is that. in a nutshell. We're going
- 28:23Speaker 1: to have the consent of the people. We're going to
- 28:25Speaker 1: have representative form of government. And we are going to
- 28:31Speaker 1: have a written constitution to protect your rights etched in stone.
- 28:37Speaker 1: And if you want to amend the constitution, it's really
- 28:39Speaker 1: hard to, but you can.
- 28:40Speaker 2: Unless it's the Ohio constitution, which seems to be done
- 28:42Speaker 2: by simple majority.
- 28:43Speaker 1: Seems to be the case. So, Here's the problem that
- 28:49Speaker 1: a lot of my peers are having right now. Our
- 28:52Speaker 1: government is supposed to run on our consent, your consent.
- 28:55Speaker 1: It's a lovely idea, right up until you remember that
- 28:59Speaker 1: regulating a nuclear reactor or approving a new drug requires
- 29:03Speaker 1: knowledge that approximately nobody standing in line to vote actually has.
- 29:08Speaker 1: So James Madison fixed this idea that You elect somebody
- 29:14Speaker 1: with a little more time to study the problem than
- 29:16Speaker 1: you have. So you kind of delegate that out there
- 29:18Speaker 1: that that that the guy who makes the pots, the blacksmith,
- 29:23Speaker 1: you know, let them do it. And then we'll feed
- 29:25Speaker 1: you from what the hunters and we'll trade. So that's
- 29:28Speaker 1: kind of this whole this tradeoff, this representation. We're going
- 29:31Speaker 1: to we're going to take someone from our tribe, meaning
- 29:34Speaker 1: our district. We're going to put them in the state
- 29:36Speaker 1: house or in.
- 29:36Speaker 2: Congress whose judgment we trust whose.
- 29:39Speaker 1: Judgment we trust to study the problem take the time
- 29:43Speaker 1: that you don't have to study the problem and the
- 29:45Speaker 1: knowledge that you don't possess that great until the country
- 29:50Speaker 1: got complicated enough that even the representative needs help which
- 29:54Speaker 1: is how we wind up with agencies like the fda
- 29:57Speaker 1: the epa All staffed by people nobody voted for, making
- 30:01Speaker 1: rules that absolutely affect your life. All right, well, what
- 30:05Speaker 1: about just direct democracy? Just put everything on the ballot.
- 30:08Speaker 1: Just let people vote for it. It's called direct democracy. Well,
- 30:14Speaker 1: there's a state in our union that has tried that.
- 30:17Speaker 1: It's called California. California seems to have referendums all the time.
- 30:24Speaker 1: California's ballot initiative system stands as a pretty damn firm
- 30:29Speaker 1: demonstration that asking Californians to design a utility rate structure
- 30:35Speaker 1: on a Tuesday in November does not actually work. So
- 30:40Speaker 1: what do you do? It's all tradeoffs. It is not.
- 30:44Speaker 1: It can't be. This wisdom cannot be imparted in a
- 30:47Speaker 1: tick tock 30 seconds or 90 seconds. That's another problem
- 30:52Speaker 1: is communication. Who's got time to listen to our show?
- 30:55Speaker 1: I don't think even our loyal listeners have time to
- 30:57Speaker 1: listen to every show. All right, General. We've talked about
- 31:06Speaker 1: we're in the 2% of history. 98% of history of
- 31:10Speaker 1: Homo sapien is behind us. Going back to civilization is
- 31:15Speaker 1: living together. Civilization was 5,500 years ago. So 2% of
- 31:18Speaker 1: Homo sapien living together. has been in a civilized way,
- 31:27Speaker 1: how we're going to live together. And there have been
- 31:29Speaker 1: many different models over those 5,000 years. We covered a
- 31:34Speaker 1: lot of them very briefly in the first three segments
- 31:37Speaker 1: of the show. What I'm fascinated about now are five
- 31:42Speaker 1: little countries we usually group together. Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland,
- 31:51Speaker 1: and maybe Iceland, which is now the Sixth borough of
- 31:55Speaker 1: New York City.
- 31:57Speaker 2: Iceland.
- 31:57Speaker 1: Iceland. No, it's Greenland.
- 31:59Speaker 2: Greenland. Now. Which Mr. Trump did a very good job
- 32:04Speaker 2: on this week. I saw that. Getting what he wanted.
- 32:07Speaker 1: High taxation. Denmark and Sweden both run on a top
- 32:13Speaker 1: income tax rate north of, say, 55 percent. And broad VATs,
- 32:20Speaker 1: value added taxes, around 25 percent. So high tax economy.
- 32:24Speaker 1: They have extensive welfare programs, not just the SNAP program,
- 32:30Speaker 1: but health care, education, parental leave, unemployment support. They also
- 32:38Speaker 1: have strong labor unions that have collective bargaining. And the
- 32:45Speaker 1: part that gets left out of the most American debates
- 32:49Speaker 1: is they have genuinely strong private property rights, low levels
- 32:53Speaker 1: of business regulation. and an open competitive private market underneath
- 32:58Speaker 1: all of it. So Denmark, for instance, employers can hire
- 33:03Speaker 1: and fire relatively easily. Kind of like American at-will employment,
- 33:10Speaker 1: but there's a generous unemployment benefit and a heavy public
- 33:14Speaker 1: investment in retraining, to taking that person, getting them retrained, retooled.
- 33:19Speaker 1: So it's a hybrid public-private that we're not doing in
- 33:23Speaker 1: America anymore. designed to keep the labor market flexible while
- 33:32Speaker 1: getting protection, kind of putting the individual worker in some
- 33:36Speaker 1: bubble wrap. It's not a top-down economy like China. It's
- 33:41Speaker 1: not a bottom-up Jeffersonian agrarian economy. These five countries, I
- 33:47Speaker 1: just checked this this morning, they rank in the world's
- 33:51Speaker 1: top 15 to 20 It depends on what you're looking at.
- 33:56Speaker 1: In income levels, purchasing power, life expectancy, infant mortality, happiness,
- 34:07Speaker 1: life satisfaction, business friendliness, entrepreneurship. The World Bank, I did
- 34:16Speaker 1: stumble upon this. Take it for what it's worth. I've
- 34:19Speaker 1: not verified this, but take it for what it's worth.
- 34:21Speaker 1: Denmark and Norway routinely... outrank the United States in a
- 34:27Speaker 1: category of ease of doing business. Sweden has a remarkably
- 34:32Speaker 1: large number of billion-dollar companies for a country of 10
- 34:38Speaker 1: million people. Spotify, which is what I listen to exclusively,
- 34:44Speaker 1: income inequality is among the lowest in the world, in
- 34:48Speaker 1: the developed world. So I think we ought not focused
- 34:55Speaker 1: just on what the Democrats are saying or what the
- 34:57Speaker 1: Republicans are saying, we really need to take a hard
- 35:00Speaker 1: look at the Nordic model. We haven't spent a lot
- 35:03Speaker 1: of time on the Nordic model. I'd like to do that.
- 35:06Speaker 2: I think that what that analysis misses is that, first
- 35:11Speaker 2: of all, back during the 60s and 70s, there was
- 35:14Speaker 2: an extremely high tax rate, a confiscatory tax rate. And
- 35:18Speaker 2: you had people like the tennis player Bjorn Borg moving
- 35:22Speaker 2: to Monaco because he just couldn't take it that he
- 35:26Speaker 2: would win $ 100, 000 for winning Wimbledon and then walk away
- 35:29Speaker 2: with $ 5, 000. It hardly covered his hotel room and his
- 35:34Speaker 2: plane fare. And then you look at the fact that
- 35:38Speaker 2: these Nordic countries are in a situation where if what
- 35:41Speaker 2: they're doing doesn't work out, they're dead. The winter kills them.
- 35:47Speaker 2: This would be like setting up in Manitoba, northern Manitoba
- 35:50Speaker 2: in Canada, and saying, let's have a commune. Now, that
- 35:53Speaker 2: works in sunny Southern California. It works in the Mediterranean
- 35:58Speaker 2: where the coldest winter temperatures get down to a balmy 63.
- 36:03Speaker 2: But when people are going to freeze to death and
- 36:06Speaker 2: you've literally got six months of almost no sunshine, you know,
- 36:11Speaker 2: you've got to have some certain economic models there.
- 36:14Speaker 1: What happens when all of a sudden there's a food shortage,
- 36:18Speaker 1: you know– In the United States, for some reason, the
- 36:23Speaker 1: grocery stores, there's something that interrupts the supply chain, whatever.
- 36:27Speaker 2: I think– The only thing that could do that would
- 36:29Speaker 2: be the government.
- 36:30Speaker 1: I think the Nordic countries, what makes them unique that
- 36:33Speaker 1: we probably can't replicate.
- 36:36Speaker 2: Really, really good-looking blonde-haired girls.
- 36:38Speaker 1: Two things. There are small countries, 6 million people in Denmark, 5.5
- 36:44Speaker 1: million people in Norway, 5.5 million people in Finland. So
- 36:50Speaker 1: they're small.
- 36:51Speaker 2: Ten million Sweden.
- 36:53Speaker 1: Number two, they have cultural homogeneity. It's easier– what's called
- 37:00Speaker 1: a high social trust. There's a cultural homogeneity. And that
- 37:08Speaker 1: is a sin for the progressives in America, in the West.
- 37:15Speaker 1: Cultural homogeneity is a sin. I say it's not. Cultural
- 37:21Speaker 1: homogeneity is important because the people will take care of themselves.
- 37:27Speaker 1: They will also have– they will trust the system because
- 37:31Speaker 1: they don't see the– what's– they don't see the graft
- 37:36Speaker 1: going out the door to people that haven't earned it
- 37:40Speaker 1: or participated in it. That's my take. It's a small country.
- 37:45Speaker 1: It has high social trust with their institutions. Because there's
- 37:50Speaker 1: cultural homogeneity.
- 37:52Speaker 2: Almost zero cost of military defense.
- 37:54Speaker 1: There's that as well, right? So, you know, there is
- 37:59Speaker 1: no silver bullet theory to any of this. Hard stop.
- 38:03Speaker 2: Well, and also, when was the last time Sweden produced
- 38:07Speaker 2: a magical breakthrough drug that cured Alzheimer's or cured polio?
- 38:13Speaker 2: That all comes from America. Yeah. And capitalism.
- 38:15Speaker 1: Yeah, they've gotten the, certainly.
- 38:17Speaker 2: They get to ride on the coattails of our discoveries.
- 38:20Speaker 1: But there are parts of the Nordic system that I
- 38:21Speaker 1: think we need to look at. Anyway, that's it for
- 38:24Speaker 1: today's show. Thanks for listening. If you like it, share it.
- 38:27Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Have a great rest of your week and weekend.