Latest / Murder Files Unsealed / Cold Case Files Deborah Poe
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Okay, So you know how much we love a good mystery. Yeah,
- 0:05and those cases that are just like.
- 0:06Speaker 2: Impossible to shake, oh, absolutely, the.
- 0:09Speaker 1: Ones that stick with you. Yeah yeah, this one, this
- 0:12one is one of those.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is. It's like taking the ordinary, yeah,
- 0:18and twisting it into something strange and unsettling. It reminds
- 0:21us that even in the most everyday places, secrets can
- 0:25hide in plain.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Sight, exactly. And that's what we're looking at today. Deborah
- 0:29Po young woman living in Orlando, Florida. Yeah, working a job,
- 0:33you know, at a convenience store.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Right, a familiar scene for many.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Vanishes vanishes nineteen ninety, nineteen ninety.
- 0:41Speaker 2: But this wasn't like a robbery or anything like that.
- 0:43This is different.
- 0:43Speaker 1: It really was, and the era nineteen ninety adds another
- 0:47layer to it. No security cameras everywhere, no cell phones
- 0:51to track every.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Move right, like a different world almost exactly.
- 0:54Speaker 1: It's like stepping back in time, a time when things
- 0:56were simpler maybe, but also yeah, perhaps bit more vulnerable.
- 1:01Speaker 2: So it's February fourth, nineteen ninety, and the police in Orlando.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Get a call about this circle. K. Well, that's not right,
- 1:08not right at all. Lights are on the door's open. Yeah,
- 1:12they find a cup of coffee just sitting there, half finished.
- 1:15Speaker 2: But no, Deborah, it' saga still life, isn't it? But
- 1:19the subject is.
- 1:20Speaker 1: Missing and it's the details right, it's like too.
- 1:24Speaker 2: Perfect, Yeah, too neat for a robbery. Her car was
- 1:27right where she left it, person side. Even her paycheck
- 1:30was untouched. Wow.
- 1:32Speaker 1: And they found her house.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Planned, yeah, spread out on the counter, right next to
- 1:35that coffee and a carton of milk.
- 1:37Speaker 1: It's like she vanished mid fought, like.
- 1:39Speaker 2: A snapshot of a life interrupted. It makes you wonder
- 1:43what was she doing in those final moments before.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Before it all went dark? So who was debor po?
- 1:48Speaker 2: She's a young woman with dreams, moved to Orlando from Virginia,
- 1:52want to be professional dancer, working as a clerk at
- 1:56the Orlando Sentinel during the day, picking up those extra
- 1:59shifts at the Circle to make ends meet.
- 2:01Speaker 1: Had her whole life ahead of her, it seemed that way.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Shared an apartment with her best friend, Laurie Tillman. They
- 2:07were incredibly close, like sisters, Lurie said.
- 2:09Speaker 1: And she had a boyfriend, Yeah, Scott.
- 2:11Speaker 2: He was actually so concerned about her working those late
- 2:14night shifts that he'd often stay with her at the store.
- 2:16Speaker 1: Which I mean you can't blame him, right, even back then,
- 2:19working the night shift, especially alone, especially as a woman,
- 2:22it's not the safest.
- 2:23Speaker 2: It really highlights those unspoken anxieties, those worries that people,
- 2:27especially women face in those jobs.
- 2:30Speaker 1: Okay, so let's try to put together a timeline here, right,
- 2:33figure out when Deborah disappeared. Right, we know a friend
- 2:37stop by the circle k a little after eleven PM
- 2:41to talk about house plans.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Right, lightly, those same plans found on the counter.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Probably yeah, and Scott, her boyfriend he visited her left
- 2:49around one am.
- 2:50Speaker 2: Okay.
- 2:50Speaker 1: She served a few customers between one am and three.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Point oh five to five mm, keep him busy.
- 2:55Speaker 1: And another friend drew by around three am saw her.
- 2:58Speaker 2: Behind the counter, seemingly safe.
- 3:00Speaker 1: But when that same friend drove by again at three
- 3:02point fifty, Deborah was gone.
- 3:04Speaker 2: Gone a tight window. And it gets even stranger. The
- 3:09tracker dogs. They picked up deborah scent, but instead of
- 3:12leading away from the store on foot, the trail went
- 3:15to the parking lot of a nearby apartment complex.
- 3:18Speaker 1: So are you suggesting she might have left in a vehicle.
- 3:21Speaker 2: It's a strong possibility as if someone was waiting, or
- 3:24maybe she went willingly. We don't know.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Okay, So we've got this disappearance that looks staged a
- 3:30potential getaway car. Right, and here's where it gets even
- 3:33more unsettling. Yeah, this wasn't an isolated incident in Florida
- 3:37at that time.
- 3:38Speaker 2: You're right, this wasn't the only case. Months before Deborah vanished,
- 3:43another young woman, Donna Callahan, disappeared another convenience store, another
- 3:48late night shift.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Oh no, are you serious?
- 3:50Speaker 2: And she was pregnant.
- 3:51Speaker 1: This is awful.
- 3:52Speaker 2: Then there's Darlene Messer, abducted from another convenience store. Tragically
- 3:57they found her body days later. Chilling pattern, isn't it.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like way too much to be a coincidence,
- 4:03right right?
- 4:03Speaker 2: Three young women, all working alone at night, targeted in
- 4:06places that should be ordinary every day. It makes you
- 4:10wonder was there a connection or was this a string
- 4:12of horrific coincidences?
- 4:14Speaker 1: I mean, statistically it has to be connected.
- 4:16Speaker 2: Right, Well, statistically speaking, you're more likely to be harmed
- 4:20by someone you know, right, So naturally the investigation started
- 4:23with those closest to Deborah.
- 4:25Speaker 1: Okay, so who were the police looking at anyone suspicious
- 4:29around Deborah.
- 4:30Speaker 2: Well, there was Scott, her boyfriend, right. He was cleared
- 4:34by the police after a lie detector test. Okay, but
- 4:37he was still considered a person of interest early on.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Understandable.
- 4:40Speaker 2: But they also looked into other people from Deborah's life.
- 4:44There were reports of a previous boyfriend, someone who'd been
- 4:47harassing her. Oh no, described by some as mentally unstable.
- 4:52Speaker 1: That's so scary.
- 4:54Speaker 2: And then there was an incident a couple weeks before
- 4:56her disappearance. Yeah, a naked man chased her through the store.
- 5:00Speaker 1: What ah, that's just creepy. See it's those late night shifts, right,
- 5:04you never know who's going to walk through that door.
- 5:05Speaker 2: M hm. It's true the late night hours can attract
- 5:08a certain crowd. But let's get back to the night
- 5:10Deborah disappeared. Okay, you mentioned friends aar the store around
- 5:14three am.
- 5:14Speaker 1: Yeah, it seemed like she was safe at that.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Point, right, But here's the thing. Another witness came forward, Okay,
- 5:21someone who's stopped by that circle k just thirty minutes later,
- 5:25oh wow, and said Deborah was nowhere to be seen.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Wait, so someone else was behind the counter. Was it
- 5:30a robbery? Then?
- 5:31Speaker 2: It's unclear, but this witness, the woman, she gave a
- 5:35pretty detailed description of this other person.
- 5:38Speaker 1: Okay, so what did this person look like?
- 5:40Speaker 2: Long, black hair, black T shirt. But here's the thing.
- 5:45It wasn't just any black T shirt.
- 5:47Speaker 1: What was it?
- 5:48Speaker 2: She specifically remembered It said Megadeath.
- 5:51Speaker 1: Mega Death Huh. Not exactly your average convenience store attire, right.
- 5:56Speaker 2: And she remembered to get a skull ring across earring.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Okay, starting to get a picture this guy. Anything else
- 6:01did he say anything?
- 6:02Speaker 2: Well, she asked him for cigarettes, yeah, and he seemed clueless,
- 6:06like he had no idea where they were.
- 6:08Speaker 1: See, that's weird, even for a metal head at three
- 6:10point thirty in the morning. You'd think he'd be able
- 6:12to find the cigarettes.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Right. It's a little detail, but it sticks out.
- 6:16Speaker 1: It's like, was he really just a customer?
- 6:18Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 6:18Speaker 1: Or was he putting on an act?
- 6:20Speaker 2: Exactly? And it gets even stranger. Okay, what else this
- 6:23witness She also described his vehicle a black van all right,
- 6:28with a megadith mural airbrushed on the side.
- 6:31Speaker 1: Okay, you don't forget something like that, a Mega Death van.
- 6:34That's pretty hard to miss.
- 6:35Speaker 2: Exactly, It was a detail that was both helpful and
- 6:38frustrating for investigators. Yeah, helpful because it was distinctive, right.
- 6:43Frustrating because despite that, the van and the man driving it, they.
- 6:48Speaker 1: Just vanished, I mean a mega death van, right.
- 6:51Speaker 2: You think someone would have remembered seeing it?
- 6:53Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly did they ever find the guy?
- 6:56Speaker 2: Nope? Nothing, the van, the man. It's like they both
- 7:00just disappeared.
- 7:00Speaker 1: But they had a description. Someone must have seen something.
- 7:03Speaker 2: There were a few reports similar vans, okay, but nothing
- 7:06panned out. And remember this was nineteen ninety no social
- 7:09media to spread the word, no easy way to track
- 7:12down leads.
- 7:13Speaker 1: So frustrating, just years of dead ends. What about Debra's family.
- 7:17Speaker 2: It's heartbreaking. In nineteen ninety eight, with no new leads,
- 7:20Deborah was declared legally dead.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Legally dead, so they just assume she's gone.
- 7:24Speaker 2: It's a legal status basically acknowledges that a person is
- 7:28presumed dead even if a body hasn't been found. Right,
- 7:31usually happens after several years, okay, allows families to settle
- 7:36legal matters and such.
- 7:37Speaker 1: That's got to be tough, though, right to just accept that.
- 7:41Speaker 2: Of course, the not knowing can be the hardest part.
- 7:45Speaker 1: But there were other cases, right, like that Donna Callahan case.
- 7:49Any updates on that?
- 7:51Speaker 2: That's the strange thing. Nineteen ninety six, Yeah, a man
- 7:54named William Alex Wells okay, confessed to killing Donna Callahan.
- 8:00Implicated his half brother too, Mark Reeb.
- 8:03Speaker 1: Wow, so they caught them.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Turns out they were career criminals, long history of violence.
- 8:08Speaker 1: Okay, but what does that have to do with Deborah.
- 8:10Speaker 2: Well Wells and Reebe? They were known to be together
- 8:13the weekend Deborah vanished.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Wait are you serious?
- 8:17Speaker 2: And get this? They had a relative who lived near
- 8:19the circle.
- 8:19Speaker 1: K are you saying these guys they could have been
- 8:21involved with Deborah's disappearance too.
- 8:23Speaker 2: It's a possibility the police looked into seriously. And remember
- 8:26the witness who saw the megadith man.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Yeah, the one at the store.
- 8:30Speaker 2: She was shown a photo lineup and guess what.
- 8:32Speaker 1: She picked out? Wells?
- 8:33Speaker 2: She picked him out.
- 8:35Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, so they got him.
- 8:37Speaker 2: Well, here's the catch, Wells. He claimed he was under
- 8:40house arrest when Deborah disappeared. Oh come on, and you
- 8:44know back then, alibis were harder to break.
- 8:47Speaker 1: So they couldn't place him there.
- 8:48Speaker 2: Not definitively they suspected he was involved, but they could
- 8:52never gather enough evidence to charge him or his brother.
- 8:55Speaker 1: It's like they were so close, you know.
- 8:57Speaker 2: It's the story of so many cold cases go cold,
- 9:00memories fade, but the questions they remain, like why was
- 9:06the store so undisturbed? Yeah, did Deborah leave with someone willingly?
- 9:10And those house plans just a random detail or a
- 9:13clue we may never know.
- 9:14Speaker 1: It makes you wonder what really happened to Debora Poh.
- 9:18Speaker 2: It's a question that continues to haunt investigators and I'm
- 9:21sure anyone who hears her story, but maybe, just maybe
- 9:25someone out there knows something, something they haven't shared, something
- 9:28that could finally bring some peace to Deborah's loved ones.
- 9:31Speaker 1: It's a reminder that even in a world saturated with information,
- 9:35some mysteries remain. Thanks for diving into this case with us.
- 9:38If you, or anyone listening has any information about the
- 9:41disappearance of Debora po please contact your local authorities or
- 9:44the FBI. Sometimes the smallest detail can make all the difference.