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Does Avery Johnson Have the Weapons He Needs? | K-State WR & TE Preview (S5//E6) · Cocaine Willie

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What's up everybody, you're listening to yet another edition
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Trollsby and I will be joined by my Co host Chef here very soon,
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our three-part series covering the offensive position groups
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for K state football in 2026 first year under the Colin climb
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regime. And we're going to be covering
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the wide receivers in tight ends in episode 2.
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Wide receiver moving on to wide receiver.
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So the projected depth chart here.
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Client reinforces yesterday when we chat, when not when we
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chatted, we were not there. But when the media chatted with
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Coach Klein yesterday, wide receiver, one looking like drawn
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tips. He is the returner of this group
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of wide receivers. We got a lot of new faces in
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this room this year. Josh Manning coming in from
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Missouri, obviously we all knew of and and we're excited for the
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recruiting when that was happening of Josh Manning.
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He's in Avery's class originally out of high school.
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They did their visit together. They took all their pictures
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together. We thought it was a done deal.
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I think he committed verbally's to to K State.
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And then Eli Dorkowitz comes out of out of the blue, gives them
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it, gives them an offer he can't refuse.
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And, and he chose to go to Missouri for a couple of years,
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but is, is going to choose to finish out his career at K
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State. And I believe he actually gets a
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fifth year. So if he if he chooses to return
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next year, I believe he can based on him being a senior and
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him having 5 for five eligibility now I'm so I do
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think he can return next year. Wide receivers 3 and 4 or this
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could be an or situation on the depth chart.
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We've heard a lot about Brandon White and we've heard a lot
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about Isaiah Williams. Brandon White comes in from
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Hawaii. He was, what, wide receiver 3 or
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4 at Hawaii, if I'm not mistaken.
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But that's an offense that really spread the ball around
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and didn't necessarily have a wide receiver one per SE.
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And then Isaiah Williams comes in from Texas A&M, didn't have a
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whole lot on the field stats wise to be able to write home
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about, but is a guy that clearly Colin Klein trusts and and
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trusted enough to bring over with him from Texas A&M.
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So between these guys, I just thinking about these receivers
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in general, there's a lot of size in this room.
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I feel like this this wide receiver room is going to have
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the ability to win some 5050 balls and move the chains and
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and attack some smaller corners. Maybe the way that we weren't
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able to do when Jace Brown seemed to be one of the biggest
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guys in the wide receiver room at times.
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I guess was JB Bradley probably would have been the biggest guy
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last year, but you know, Jace was the go to guy.
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You're losing your go to guy. That's that's been a big concern
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for me with this wide receiver room is is drawn.
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Tibbs is really the biggest through line between previous
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seasons in this season and we really only have one year of
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experience between Avery and Tibbs.
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But when you look at when you look at this wide receiver room,
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what do you think is the biggest strength of this wide receiver
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room as you look at it today? Biggest strength, you know, I
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like you said, I I think the room actually got smaller.
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I don't I don't think that we got bigger.
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I think JB Bradley was an absolute unit in terms of like
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height. I don't he was obviously very
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thin. Tibbs Tibbs is a good size
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receiver, but when you go down that list until you get to
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Brandon White, the explosion just doesn't seem like that's
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it. I, I, I'm trying to think I
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think we have a lot of good possessions and I think the the
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guys that we have are going to be a lot of the system wide
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receivers. So I think they can find their
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way to get open and, and really what I think the biggest
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strength could be is the continuity with the quarterback.
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I think Josh Manning and Avery Johnson have a relationship, a
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rapport that might not necessarily come from just
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playing with each other, but a relationship off the field
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usually leads to chemistry on the field.
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Tibbs already has proven himself as a bona fide #2 can he take
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that step to #1 status? And I think a guy like of his
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ilk, possession receiver gets in and out of his brakes really
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well, catches the ball in and finds space.
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And then you get to like Brandon White, who I think is the most,
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who's obviously the the outlier of all the receivers on the
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depth chart. He's tiny.
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He, I mean, I shouldn't say tiny.
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I he is smaller. He's probably listed at 57,
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which probably means he's 5655, but he's insanely fast, which
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when's the last time we had a guy like that, Brandon Banks,
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you know, maybe somebody like that that I can think of.
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I think he might be a little more filled out than Brandon
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Banks was, but if he could provide that guy in the slot
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that can get in and out of breaks similar to what Phillip
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Brooks did, but have more explosion off of the ball when
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he gets it and play making ability.
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I think he's an improvement of what we had last year in the
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slot outside of Jace. Isaiah Williams, Like you said,
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it's going to be a lot of prove it, but pedigree, speed, he's
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got it. So you know it's going to be
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consistency with him. He is a younger player.
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He's a red shirt freshman, A sophomore, red shirt sophomore,
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one of those he's a younger fella.
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So it's it's one of those things where, you know, if he can get
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into the rotation and make some things, I think a guy that we
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don't have a lot of guys like him is a Sally.
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You know, if we could get Derek Sally up to speed, we don't have
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those guys on the roster and we haven't had a guy like that on
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the roster in a long ass time. So I'm trying to think of when
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we had a receiver that looks like him on the roster.
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That was going to be my next question is what do you think of
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that kind of second tier group below the guys that I mentioned?
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When you think about Derek, Sally, Adonis, Moise, like he
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got a shout out yesterday from from Coach Klein.
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You know, Caprice Keith is a guy that's been around the program,
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at least high school recruiting wise.
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We brought him in. You know, Larry Porter the 4th
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is another guy that like stands out to me a lot 'cause he had
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that. He had that circus catch in in
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spring ball that everybody was tweeting about.
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Yeah. I mean, these guys are they are
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the necessarily the future, but like they they bring
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characteristics and a skill set that we might not have those top
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guys, but they just they're not seasoned enough and getting
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those guys reps in game can provide a lot of things.
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Adonis, funny enough, actually got a lot of reps with the first
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as a starter and running with the offense last year.
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I think he might have got hurt as well.
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I'm not entirely sure, but went seeing him, he's kind of reminds
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me of what like a drawn Tibbs, but obviously a little bit
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smaller. He's not as fast, he doesn't
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seem as fast, but he seems very efficient in terms of running
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the routes, getting into space, opening, catching the ball.
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That's kind of like you've got to have those guys, especially
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if if we're running the RPO style that I think we are.
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It's going to be a lot of in breaking short, breaking routes,
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get to a spot, find it and it's the ball is coming at you and
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you got to catch it. So I I'm really, I'm really
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Larry Porter is Larry Porter and Derek Sally are going to be my
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guys that I think could be real difference makers if they can
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find a way onto the field. I think I'm I'm all in.
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I'm putting all my chips on the Derek Sally coming from JUCO.
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Coming from JUCO, He's one of those guys that 6. 3234.
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He's a big fella, big fella can jump, go get it.
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Wears a very hot number. He's huge.
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So like, these are the guys that I'm looking for and those are
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the ones that pop off the screen.
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They pop off the screen because they do like they do things that
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you just. He's built OK Now this.
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Don't get me wrong, he's not him, but he's built like
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Jeremiah Smith. OK.
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And we don't have that guy on the roster, but if we if we
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have, we have Derek Sal, if he can provide, if he can get up to
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speed, he has the physical tools of somebody like a Jeremiah
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Smith, in my opinion. So I, I'm, I'm all in on him.
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Does he, he's a JUCO guy. So does no offense to him if he
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ever sees this, which I doubt 100% he will never see this, but
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does he have his head on straight?
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Those are the kind of things that hold players with absolute
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genetic freak skills back. He might just never have it up
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there. He might not have the marbles to
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get it done. But if he does and he
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straightens up, he might, he might be straight as an arrow
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for all I know. But the reason why he's hasn't
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gotten on the field or might not get on the field this year is
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because of those little things like that.
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You've got to buy into the program.
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You got to do those things. And if he does and he has the
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physical capabilities, that's where all my chips are at.
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I'm betting on that. I want that to happen because if
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he does takes this room to another level.
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It does, Derek, Sally's definitely a genetic freak.
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So when you're when you're thinking about like your when
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you're thinking about your biggest concern, what's what's
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your biggest concern on this team?
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Because for me it would probably be we've lost Jace Brown.
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He was very clearly the guy that Avery had the best connection
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with on the field. And he was also a home run
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hitter. And and we don't really have
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that guy right now that we know of yet.
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We don't know who that guy could be this next year could be
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really anybody at this point, or it could be nobody, or it could
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be a tight end. We don't know.
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And see that's where that's where I was going because your
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concern is absolutely 100% based in truth.
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We don't have a takeover over the top guy that you can kind of
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just like he'll beat him, beat somebody on a post route and
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just blow by him or just throw it up down on a 9 route just
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down the sideline and go get it. Jeron Tibbs might have that in
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him, but I like I said, I think he's more of that possession
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find, find space and not get a lot of rack.
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He might not have a lot of rack left in them, but we don't have
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that guy. So if we can get somebody and
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maybe that's how they're building this offense, we let's
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be honest, we haven't seen this other than what Colin Klein's
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done at Texas Tech because I think he's building for
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something that might be a little different that the outside
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receivers in the slot guys, they're trying to find space and
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maybe just maybe the tight end is down the seam.
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We have a Lincoln cure that can go burn over the top.
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That's, you know, that's bigger than a safety and is way faster
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than the linebacker. So maybe that's where they're
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trying to find their isolations on, like in a cover one where
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the safety is looking for anybody over the top.
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But if it's a tight end he might be Garrett Oakley might be able
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to catch him over the top if he actually catches the ball.
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All right, all right. So when you look at the top five
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guys, who do you think is the first, second and third most
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reliable receivers heading into the season?
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Oh, for sure. Tibbs is number one.
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OK, Yeah, Tibbs is number 1, I think.
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I think he's proven that he, he might have started out a little
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bit ANC at the beginning of the last season with a couple drops,
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but I think towards the end of the season he was about as sure
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hands as it got. I'm going to say Josh Manning is
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going to be pretty consistent. I don't think he's going to be
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absolutely anything special. No offense to Josh Manning, but
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I just think I think he's one of those guys that if he could put
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up Cave Warner numbers, I'd be happy.
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I would be absolutely ecstatic if he give me Cave Warner
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numbers. Have you Did you listen to my
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Blitz Month episode? No, I haven't actually.
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That's the comparison I made because I said I said fab Ward.
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Fab Ward, his sample size that 2022 season when he was here as
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wide receivers coach Cade Warner was the guy going into that
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season where we're like this guy throw away like he's not, he's
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not going to do squad, but but maybe, but maybe him reuniting
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with Adrian, who knows. There's some chemistry there and
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then he ends up being a 600 yard receiver like that.
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That's the kind of thing where I'm like that you bring in Fab
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Ward and Thad Ward can be this wide receiver whisperer to to a
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degree. If you have a third wide
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receiver on your team or, or even the second that's putting
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up, you know, 400 to 600 yards in the season, I'd say that's a,
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that's pretty solid for K State compared to where we've been in
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the past. So we we get so enamored with
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guys production throughout the season.
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He was a 600 and and just justifiably, that's how they
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should be graded. But for guys like Josh Manning,
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he's never going to be the guy that beats somebody over the
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top. He's not the most physically
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imposing where he's Moss and people, all that stuff.
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If he and he's an outside receiver that can run a curl
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route at for 8 yards and we need 6 and he does that twice a game
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and has another catch for 11 and he does that almost every game.
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He is the he would be the most consistent because that's the
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kind of guy that we we need the guy on the outside that is
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whether it's versus zone or whatever finds a spot, moves the
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chains twice and maybe find the end zone.
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If he could find the end zone 4 * a season, move the chains 2 *
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a game and have a gain of 15 outside of that, that is the
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most successful season. I would want for Josh Manning.
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Add those numbers up. Somebody in the comments.
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Give it to me, whatever that equals, give it to me.
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But that's what I'm expecting. And so my third guy, can I get
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consistent work for an explosive from Brandon White every game?
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That's what that's what consistency for me for, for
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Brandon White is he might not be the most consistent in terms of
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you, you know, you're going to get 5 catches, 83 yards or you
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know, 5 catches for 68 yards or something like that from Brandon
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White. But can I get, you know, 2
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catches, 3 catches and one of them's for 40?
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Yeah. I mean, if you, if you give me a
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home run play, not necessarily every game, but give it to me
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every game. Might not be have to be for a
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touchdown or anything, but just something that shifts the form,
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shifts the momentum of a game. That's consistency to me.
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For a receiver, sometimes that you have a role.
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Your role is to make plays and to make a big explosive play.
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If you give that to me every game, you're consistent as hell.
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So you're, you're saying now Brandon White's going to be the
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guy over Isaiah Williams If you, if you have to do like a top
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three, 100%? Yeah, 100%.
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Because I wonder how much the familiarity with client system
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ends up helping Isaiah in this case.
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Well, this is the this is. And for me, I think the familiar
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familiarity in his system is huge.
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But also, Brandon White's been playing.
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College football since 2021. So I think that plays a lot into
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it. I think a guy like that who can
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run every route on the field, mind you, he's limited in size.
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That's where that's why I think he's even in contention for wide
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receiver three. If he was bigger than we
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wouldn't even probably wouldn't even have him on the roster.
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But you know, he's 57. Give me a bubble screen or a
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drag route that you you break for 40.
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And that's consistency to me. And I think that's what he needs
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to be. And I think Isaiah Williams,
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obviously, I don't even think he's going to be playing in the
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slot. I think he's more he might be
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fighting Josh Manning for playing time towards the end of
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the season. If it was me if if, if I had a
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guess, and I could be totally wrong, but if I had a guess, I
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think Josh Manning is going to be fighting Isaiah Williams off
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the field and and Brandon White is going to hold down the slot,
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OK. OK, I think that's a that's a
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end projected too deep. So we've got Garrett Oakley
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coming in from last year. We've got Lincoln Cure also
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returning from last year but has that 5 five star pedigree and
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then will Anzio's the other guy that's had some production over
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the last couple of years who's also returning.
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What is what is your, what's your 2D pier?
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Do you think Garrett is the guy or do you think we are are going
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to see Lincoln supplant him at some point this season?
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When I had mentioned earlier about running back, you'd asked
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if that was the deepest room. I think this is the deepest room
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on the team. I honestly did.
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I think people are really pulling on Will Ancio, that he
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might just be a Jag. I don't think so.
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I think people got enamored with him his freshman year where he
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caught all those touchdown passes and it was surprising to
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a lot of people. And then I think the
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expectations rose a little bit too fast for him, but I think
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he's going to settle in and I think he is going to if he if
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that's our tight end three, I think we're rocking and rolling.
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And then you've got the supreme town of Lincoln cure.
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I think in terms of physicality and uniqueness to the position,
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I don't think we've seen we've ever seen that at tight end at
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Kansas State. Will is will he have the career
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of a Ben Sennett? Will he be better than that?
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I don't know make will he be the greatest tight end of all time
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at Kansas State? I have no idea.
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He has the physical capabilities to be the best receiving tight
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that one. That one was pretty.
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That one. That one made me laugh.
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But the picture of him without a shirt on?
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He's solid. And with Colin Klein basically
25:01
admitting that they have NFL scouts in there poking around at
25:04
Garrett Oakley, wanting to see him at camp.
25:08
I'm, I'm, I'm bought in on Garrett Oakley.
25:12
He is frustrating in terms of the drops and the, the ball
25:18
security. He was going against Jacob
25:21
Rodriguez, who was, you know, that's not very fair.
25:24
He, he did that to everybody. But man, I, I, I love this room.
25:31
I think how we use them is going to be very interesting because I
25:36
think there's a world where you can come out and empty.
25:44
Now, OK, this is very video game logic of me and you know, maybe
25:50
I'm fantasizing down the wrong path, but imagine you come out
25:56
with Brandon White and shotgun, like Brandon Avery Johnson
26:01
taking the shotgun snap. He's the quarterback.
26:04
Brandon White's in the backfield with him.
26:06
You've got a tight end Lincoln Cure and Garrett Oakley in line
26:11
like they're they're on the line of scrimmage ones off anyway.
26:15
And you got you've got Tibs and you've got Josh Manning on the
26:22
outside. OK, It's going to look very
26:25
interesting. That looks like you could power,
26:28
you could hand the ball off to Brandon White, flare it out to
26:31
him. Imagine you just formation shift
26:33
into A5 wide set. How do you as a defense, how do
26:38
you guard that? They have two tight ends out
26:40
there. You've got to bring in somewhat
26:42
of a heavy personnel or, or, or maybe it's Rodney Fields instead
26:48
of Brandon White 'cause he's a very good receiver.
26:51
So now it looks like you could run power, you could run
26:53
quarterback power, bring an extra.
26:56
This is just what I'm thinking. And then you just formation
26:58
shift into five wide set. Now you 'cause you got Garrett
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Oakley a very good receiver. You've got Lincoln Cure as
27:07
arguably one of the best, you know, receiving talents at tight
27:11
end and you got Rodney fields out there and then it's five
27:14
wide and you spread the field out and you got tight ends
27:16
trying to be guard by linebackers and one-on-one.
27:19
It's it's these are the things I think of and makes this room is
27:24
such a weapon. It's such a weapon to have this
27:28
this kind of talent. It's just it's just depends on
27:31
how we're going to use them. I'm, I'm convinced that if I, I
27:35
hope we see more 12 personnel, I hope we see a lot of two tight
27:39
end sets out there, but that that also takes away from the
27:42
receiver room. But I'm OK with if, if we only
27:45
have two receivers out there, I don't think our receiver talent
27:48
is all that. So I think tight end talent is a
27:51
lot better. And if we have the, the running
27:55
backs that I think we have, I think we need go to tight ends,
27:58
have a lot of heavy bodies out there.
28:00
Start smashing, smashing, smashing, and these tight ends
28:04
take over. When the linebackers are worried
28:07
about trying to guard the run man, you're got, you're going to
28:11
have a lot of it's there's the potential is there, the
28:15
potential is there. Obviously, some of the biggest
28:18
strengths in this room are the athleticism you're mentioning,
28:21
you know, the the formational flexibility that that this gives
28:24
you as well, the ability to kind of throw some looks and add a
28:28
defense that maybe they're they're not going to see in
28:31
other games in in the season. So that that's always going to
28:34
be interesting. Or if they do, they may not
28:37
execute it the way that that K State could or will.
28:40
What what do you think about your biggest concerns?
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What's your biggest concern about the tight end position or
28:45
the tight end room this year? When you have the talent that
28:49
you have, you have high expectations and I think the
28:53
consistency with ball security and drops is is going to plague
28:58
this unit. I think Garrett Oakley's already
29:02
been labeled as such and I'm going to be looking for it.
29:06
That's what that's I'm going to be honest, I'm going to be
29:08
looking every time that Garrett Oakley runs A6 yard hitch in the
29:12
middle of the field and Avery Johnson throws an absolute piss
29:16
missile at him that he might not catch it.
29:20
And that's just that's kind of where I'm at.
29:22
And I wish that they were more consistent.
29:25
I wish they were all Nick Lenners.
29:27
I wish they were all I'm trying to think of just like random
29:32
tight ends we had. I wish they were all a matter
29:35
Beybes. I wish I wish they were all
29:44
Briley Moore's. They just catch everything.
29:49
I'm just I'm just talking shit really.
29:51
But that's that is my number one concern is just the consistency
29:56
because if we lean into this unit and they have the case of
30:00
the drop sees that is going to stall a lot of the offense.
30:04
Because if your, if your game plan is around them, they have
30:07
to they have to bring it every game.
30:10
Lincoln cure has to bring it every game.
30:14
He can't, he can't drop. He can't drop passes.
30:16
You can't. Because if, if we're going to,
30:19
we're going to put, we need receivers out there.
30:21
If, if the tight ends aren't catching the ball and if we're
30:25
wasting a second and a second and six after a 4 yard gain on
30:32
a, a, a curl route to the receiver or a, a corner route to
30:37
the, the sideline to a tight end and he drops it, that's a waste.
30:40
Now it's third and six, we're in trouble.
30:42
So I, I think it's the consistency.
30:44
I just I if this unit's consistent, we're fucking some
30:48
people up. I'm not even going to ask about
30:51
breakout candidate because I think we all think it's going to
30:53
be Lincoln Cure. Who would you say is the sleeper
30:56
in this room? I I would maybe go with a Will
30:59
Ansio, but that we've also heard a lot of buzz about Lawson
31:03
McGraw coming in legacy guy, Arlie Morell, the the flip from
31:08
Iowa State from from last year. Do you think any of those
31:11
younger guys get any kind of run at all this season outside of
31:14
mop up duty or or is it just going to be the Oakland Cure
31:18
show? Maybe NCO?
31:21
I'd I'd like to see physically, I haven't seen pictures of them
31:26
of Lawson McGraw or, or Morell. But if they're physically there,
31:33
that's one of those positions where you kind of get recruited.
31:38
And like Vincent, it was the opposite.
31:40
Like he was a scrawny kid and he developed and and he needed a
31:44
couple years to grow into those frames.
31:46
Lawson McGraw is supposed to be 64200 and 30 lbs like already.
31:52
And and like if you're that you can play like will you be
31:57
consistent? Are you physical enough with
31:59
that frame to block a 265 LB defensive end that's trying to
32:04
rip your head off? I don't know, but will Ansio,
32:08
Lincoln Cure, I hope and Garrett Oakley for sure are physical
32:12
enough to do that. So those those, I don't know if
32:15
they're those freshmen are physically ready to do that, but
32:19
I would love it. My my last question here, will
32:24
will Lincoln cure at some point this season, become the primary
32:28
tight end? I would say no, yeah.
32:35
My gut says no, but I think there's going to be times,
32:41
depending on what the receiver situation is, that he might be
32:49
in. In some games, he might be wide
32:50
receiver too. Like that's where I could see
32:54
it. Like he might not ever, you
32:57
know, surpass Garrett Oakley where Garrett Oakley's leaving
33:00
the field and he had, he's not getting the run anymore.
33:04
If that's what you mean by is he Garrett tied in #1 I can't, I
33:08
can't see him passing Garrett Oakley this season, but I can
33:12
see him passing Josh Manning. OK.
33:17
But why do I sound like a big Josh Manning hater right now?
33:21
I don't want it to be that way. That's not what I want.
33:25
But if I had to have somebody get surpassed, I don't think
33:31
it's Tibbs and I don't think he's playing in the slot.
33:34
So I think it's going to be Josh, man, I'm sorry.
33:39
I hope Josh Manning shuts me up, dude.
33:41
I hope he proves me so wrong. I hope he does, too.
33:46
I'm putting a lot of eggs in the Josh Manning basket this year,
33:48
mostly because of that ward. It's really where I'm where I'm
33:52
coming from with that. All right.
33:55
Any other thoughts on the tight ends?
33:58
I, I, I like where we're at with the position, like I said, but I
34:03
mean, I, I'm going to hammer it one more time, clip it if you
34:07
want. The consistency of this unit is
34:12
needed because if we're dropping, I think we're going to
34:15
put a lot of eggs into the basket of tight end.
34:18
So they have to, they have to bring it.
34:20
So this is my, this is my boom or bust position.
34:24
It, I think a lot of people are putting a lot of, you know,
34:28
hindering what happens with the running game and all that stuff.
34:32
I think this this coaching staff loves the tight end so much that
34:36
if they're not good, the team's not good.
34:41
Wow. And no drops.
34:45
No drops. We can't have it.
34:49
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