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Vikings Tailgate: Super Bowl Statues and The Legend of Josh McCown – HOU – Episode 38 · The Vikings Tailgate

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, it's another episode of the Vikings Tailgate, brought
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Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings. Guys, we have comics entertainers on this show.
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Speaker 3: But here's the thing.
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Speaker 2: It's pretty hard to find a comedian who's a fan
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Speaker 2: of the Houston Texans. Apparently, Luckily for all of you,
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Speaker 2: fan favorite recurring guest on the show, Blake Wexler, stepped in.
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Speaker 2: You know him as an Eagles fan, so it was
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Speaker 2: fun to talk about the loss on Monday night, the
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Speaker 2: differences in the fan bases, and what's going on with
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Speaker 2: our team and throughout the NFC. This was a really
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Speaker 2: fun one and we really appreciate Blake joining the show.
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Speaker 2: I hope you guys like it.
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Speaker 3: Recket, Reckett, I mere.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now to talk all things NFL and honestly
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Speaker 2: to just sit there and listen to me talk about
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Speaker 2: how over the moon I am about my favorite football
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Speaker 2: team right now, Ladies and gentlemen. Recurrent guest on the program,
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Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles fan NFL Savant, Blake Wexler. You like that,
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Speaker 2: you like Savant Savant?
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Speaker 3: I'm your first Savant. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Jason Savants, I believe was our wide receiver three for
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Speaker 4: a couple of years place for the University of Michigan. Yeah, No,
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Speaker 4: I love Savant.
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Speaker 2: Does your fan base have an obsession with the wide
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Speaker 2: receiver three?
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Speaker 4: Of course, I think every does every fan base have
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Speaker 4: an obsession. It's almost like a backup quarterback, but less important.
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Speaker 2: Right There's something that I've noticed in Minnesota, and I've
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Speaker 2: been I think I've narrowed it down because Jalen Naylor
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Speaker 2: has come out and looks awesome for the Vikings. He
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Speaker 2: caught an incredible seam route to not seal the game,
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Speaker 2: but put us in that direction. He's got a touchdown,
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Speaker 2: he's looked good, he's finally healthy. People are really excited
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Speaker 2: about him. But the Vikings have always back to like
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Speaker 2: they were in on kJ Osborne all the way back
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Speaker 2: to jerryus Wright and on and on and on. There's
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Speaker 2: just been this obsession and I think it's because of
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Speaker 2: Jake Reid. The Vikings when Randy Moss came in had
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Speaker 2: one of the first I'm gonna say big time three
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Speaker 2: deep receiver. Course everybody thinks Randy Moss and Chris Carter,
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Speaker 2: but Jake Reid was a badass man. And I think
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Speaker 2: this like like, if you give a kid a snowmobile
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Speaker 2: for his ninth birthday, you still have to have nine
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Speaker 2: more birthday parties before he's out of your house. So
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Speaker 2: you got and I think that's what happened. You had
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Speaker 2: Moss and Carter and Jake Reid and everybody just keeps going.
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Speaker 2: So who's new Jake Reid. But this Jalen Naylor kid
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Speaker 2: has been incredible at the Gate.
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Speaker 4: That's incredible for like, yeah, you guys just need more
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Speaker 4: good wide receivers. I think it's not enough to have
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Speaker 4: to It's funny. I think we've both gone through franchise.
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Speaker 2: I forget that when I talk to you, you passed
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Speaker 2: your team passed on Justin Jefferson. I forget that.
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Speaker 4: And even though we don't, we don't really talk about it.
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Speaker 4: We don't talk about it and we don't really have
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Speaker 4: a need to talk about it.
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Speaker 2: The funny thing about a Philadelphia Eagles fans psychology is
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Speaker 2: even though you have Aj Brown and DeVonta Smith, even
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Speaker 2: though you've had one of the better offenses in the league.
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Speaker 2: When I said, when I started talking about your like
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Speaker 2: you got a little bit.
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Speaker 3: Of like a twitch. Yeah, no, for sure a twitch.
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Speaker 4: And it's a similar thing too where I still talk
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Speaker 4: about the quarterback rule where now you need fifty quarterbacks
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Speaker 4: on your roster. If Heaven forbid, one through five of
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Speaker 4: your quarterbacks get injured, which is what happened during the
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Speaker 4: NFC Championship game against the forty nine ers that we
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Speaker 4: were playing. And you remind me, you go, Blake, that's
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Speaker 4: a game you want. Why are you complaining about this? Well,
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Speaker 4: they were complaining about it, and I feel like it
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Speaker 4: delegitimizes the win.
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Speaker 3: But you are right. There's a laundry list of vendettas.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of quarterbacks, everybody is going nuts about Sam Donald,
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Speaker 2: and I can talk about Sam Donald at length. I
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Speaker 2: would be thrilled too, But I want to talk about
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Speaker 2: something that nobody's talking about. That you have a connection
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Speaker 2: to perhaps the most underrated higher across the NFL this offseason,
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Speaker 2: I believe, was Josh McCown as quarterback coach for the
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Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings. Everybody tied it to this idea that we
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Speaker 2: were going to get Drake may. I think it's beyond that.
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Speaker 2: If you really and Blake you had him in Philadelphia.
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Speaker 2: He was the emergency backup during the COVID year, right
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Speaker 2: oh yeah?
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Speaker 3: If, oh yeah.
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Speaker 2: If you deep dive Josh McCown and you learn about
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Speaker 2: him in Cleveland and Philadelphia, there is this unending list
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Speaker 2: of stories of supporting young quarterbacks and helping him along.
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Speaker 2: I think he is perfectly built for today's generation of athletes.
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Speaker 2: I think he's probably gonna wind up being a head coach.
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Speaker 2: If Sam Darnold continues to perform the way he has,
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Speaker 2: He's gonna deserve a lot of the credit.
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Speaker 4: I totally agree, and I think he relates so well
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Speaker 4: to these quarterbacks because he was kind of just in
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Speaker 4: the league and I think even when he was playing,
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Speaker 4: to your point, one of the most interesting jobs, so
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Speaker 4: forget sports, just jobs in the history of occupation, was
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Speaker 4: during COVID, we paid Josh McCown to be on the
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Speaker 4: right and just hang out at his house and join
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Speaker 4: Zoom meetings for twelve thousand dollars a week. That was
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Speaker 4: his job and also very special place in my heart
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Speaker 4: for Josh McCown. This guy is such a gamer that
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Speaker 4: I believe. So Carson Wentz was the quarterback and we
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Speaker 4: ended up losing this game in the playoffs seventeen to nine.
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Speaker 4: I believe it was twenty twenty to the Seahawks. Josh
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Speaker 4: McCown comes in almost leads us back to victory while
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Speaker 4: playing on a torn hamstring that came off the bone.
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Speaker 4: This dude was limping around the field and was still plague.
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Speaker 4: So if you think a guy you know, not collecting
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Speaker 4: workmen's comp is not going to be popular in Philadelphia,
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Speaker 4: you're wrong because he.
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Speaker 2: We can talk a little bit about your game on Monday,
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Speaker 2: and you guys getting put down by Kirk no.
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Speaker 4: We could skip it and talk about Justin Jefferson. Sounds
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Speaker 4: like a nicer thing to talk about, to be completely
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Speaker 4: honest at this point.
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Speaker 2: But before we do that, or you know, maybe we
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Speaker 2: can avoid it. But when Kirk left, there was so
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Speaker 2: much time spent baiting him and his value and his
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Speaker 2: greatness or lack thereof that. I don't know that people.
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Speaker 2: It was a lot like politics. People had their sides
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Speaker 2: and no matter what happened, they were going to frame it.
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Speaker 2: But we've arrived at this place where Donald and Kevin
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Speaker 2: O'Connell as a partnership seems to have worked so well,
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Speaker 2: at least through two weeks. It is almost like it
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Speaker 2: has erased that vibe from our fan base because he
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Speaker 2: is you can see Kevin O'Connell really, as the children say,
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Speaker 2: going into his bag a bit, being a little bit
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Speaker 2: more aggressive. Yeah, you're welcome being more aggressive. And what
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Speaker 2: I didn't know about Sam Donald because I didn't know
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Speaker 2: anything about Sam Donald, but I didn't know this dude had.
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Speaker 2: Everybody says big arm. You hear the term big arm
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Speaker 2: all the time time, but holy like that throw against
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Speaker 2: the Niners, I don't it seems I'm not saying it
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Speaker 2: seems simple, but it seemed like a pitch and catch,
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Speaker 2: like a deep ball. But anytime you drop back into
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Speaker 2: your end zone on a play action, there's the inherent
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Speaker 2: risk of giving up two or six if anything goes wrong.
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Speaker 2: So to sit in there with that pressure somewhere rattling
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Speaker 2: around in your thought process, step up and deliver a ball.
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Speaker 2: And this is for the second time in two weeks,
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Speaker 2: Blake deliver a ball down the field to Justin Jefferson
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Speaker 2: in perfect stride. A lot of guys can throw the
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Speaker 2: ball fifty five yards, but to hit him in perfect stride,
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Speaker 2: it's been really, really, really fun. I'm sure there are
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Speaker 2: some difficult moments ahead of us, but at least for
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Speaker 2: two weeks, everything that's happening in the quarterback room feels
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Speaker 2: really great and it feels really fun.
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Speaker 4: It's cool to watch too, because he was obviously an extreme,
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Speaker 4: highly touted pick, Like was he number.
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Speaker 2: One or number three? He's three, number three out of.
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Speaker 4: USC Yeah, in twenty eighteen, right, and he was always
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Speaker 4: a guy with all the tools. And it's interesting he's
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Speaker 4: only twenty seven, but his career to this point may
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Speaker 4: not have gone the way that he wanted it to. Go,
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Speaker 4: and I think often people either figure it out immediately
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Speaker 4: or they never figure it out, and he I have
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Speaker 4: a you know, it's really cool watching his story because
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Speaker 4: he's someone who it's taking a little bit longer than
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Speaker 4: I think other players, maybe a little bit longer than
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Speaker 4: he wants it to, but he's stuck just the strength
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Speaker 4: of character and resolve and also maybe he's finally found
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Speaker 4: the right situation also the right quarterback coach like McCown
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Speaker 4: to help him, you know, like it's it's fun to watch.
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Speaker 2: Do you think do you think there's this new thing coming?
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Speaker 2: Because the running back position obviously has changed right running back,
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Speaker 2: The way they draft, roster, pay use running backs doesn't
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Speaker 2: look anything like it looked ten to fifteen years ago.
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Speaker 2: So it's kind of been one of two paths with quarterbacks.
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Speaker 2: Either you have one or you don't. Either they can
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Speaker 2: play or they can't, whether you're starting them or not.
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Speaker 2: Either they're they're gonna get paid or they're not. And
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Speaker 2: that has led to guys like you have your elite
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks and then you have like your Mahomes, your Burrow,
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Speaker 2: your Allen. But then you have your guys that are
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Speaker 2: in that next tier, your Kirk Cousins, Jared Goff, Dak Prescott,
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Speaker 2: all these guys, and they're all getting paid. Jordan Love's
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Speaker 2: getting paid, and it seemed like there's just no ine
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Speaker 2: between you either get paid or you don't get paid.
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Speaker 2: And I wonder, with this happening to Baker Mayfield, I wonder,
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Speaker 2: with this happening to Gino Smith and now a third time,
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Speaker 2: if Darnold has a good season, will we enter into
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Speaker 2: a new NFL universe where there's this third tier. You know,
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Speaker 2: there's always been the journeyman that you start and move
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Speaker 2: on from. But Mayfield and Geno are solutions. They're not
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Speaker 2: stop gaps, and they're at the right price given you know,
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Speaker 2: the salary cap equation and how it affects quarterbacks. So
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Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm really fascinated. I'm both fascinated to
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Speaker 2: see it and Blake and I can't stop thinking about
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Speaker 2: which former busts that I would want the opportunity because
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Speaker 2: it's all tied. Here's the crazy thing, it's all tied to.
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Speaker 2: I feel like I'm writing a verbal manifesto right now.
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Speaker 4: But this is how you speak. I don't know if
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Speaker 4: this is news to you. This is how you've always spoken.
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Speaker 2: It's it's disgusting what a I did not expect us
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Speaker 2: to be two and oh. It is disgusting what a
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Speaker 2: two and oh start does to me. It's not it's
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Speaker 2: not good for my relationship, it's not good for my
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Speaker 2: free time, it's not good for anything. But I'm I'm
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Speaker 2: so deep down into this thing right now.
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Speaker 4: It's pathetic is that you should try a ten in
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Speaker 4: one start like we had last year and then see
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Speaker 4: what happens after that.
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Speaker 3: Not a lot of good stuff.
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Speaker 4: What if I like, it was very clear that I
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Speaker 4: haven't watched football in a long time, Like, yeah, you know,
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Speaker 4: so you got the Trent Dilfers of the world where
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Speaker 4: they can just come in there last second, and when
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Speaker 4: you was Super Bowl, it's like, wait, has this guy
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Speaker 4: been sleep for twenty five years?
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Speaker 2: It's just a new thing. Cunningham was like a one
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Speaker 2: year reclamation project in Minnesota. We haven't seen this thing
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Speaker 2: that's happening. By the way, it's it is very tied
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Speaker 2: to the McVeigh Shanahan tree. If you do a little sleuthing,
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Speaker 2: a little football sleuthing. Blake Gino Smith was with Shane
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Speaker 2: Waldron in Seattle that was his coordinator. Waldron was a
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Speaker 2: McVeigh guy, and then Baker Mayfield spent his first year
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Speaker 2: with Dave Canalis, who was under Waldron in Seattle. He's
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Speaker 2: spending his second year with Liam Cohen when he's really
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Speaker 2: breaking out right now. Liam Cohen last year was under McVeigh.
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Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell was obviously under McVeigh. It's these young coaches
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Speaker 2: that prioritize efficiency and game planning and their system that
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Speaker 2: seemed to be able to do this. So I can't
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Speaker 2: stop thinking about which bust. For some reason, Akille Smith
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Speaker 2: always comes into my brain first, just because that's an
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Speaker 2: all time name. It's a great, great name. I'd love
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Speaker 2: to see a Johnny Manzell resurrection, just for the reality
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Speaker 2: show that would probably come with it.
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Speaker 3: I would.
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Speaker 4: For me, I'm Mark Sanchez. I think would be a
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Speaker 4: fantastic one.
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Speaker 2: Dude. Yeah, battling back from the butt fumble, the butt
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Speaker 2: fumble redemption, Oh yeah.
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Speaker 3: That's a fantastic story.
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Speaker 2: Imagine imagine him leading a team to like twelve and five,
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Speaker 2: scoring a touchdown in the playoffs and doing a butt
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Speaker 2: fumble celebration just to give it all back. That would
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Speaker 2: have been a good one.
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Speaker 4: The whole time, just in his pants in the back,
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Speaker 4: there's just a football per butt cheek and he just
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Speaker 4: takes them both out and throws them into the stands.
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Speaker 4: I would how can you not cheer for that story?
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Speaker 2: Tim Couch would be a good one, just because Robert Sofa. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: there's not a I'm going the other way with names.
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Speaker 2: There's not a funnier name. Although, god, there's one really
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Speaker 2: terrible all time name, Blake Bortles. Dude, I'm not convinced
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Speaker 2: Blake Bortles wasn't a good quarterback. No, I'm not now
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Speaker 2: and now with what's happening, I'm not convinced Blake Bortles
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Speaker 2: didn't have all the tools and he just didn't have
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Speaker 2: the right coach.
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Speaker 3: I'm totally with you.
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Speaker 4: You and I have a Blake Bortles theory that we
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Speaker 4: bring up every year and a half, and it's that
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Speaker 4: Blake Bortles was not a bad quarterback. Got his name
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Speaker 4: was just so silly, too hard. You can't be silly
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Speaker 4: of a name.
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Speaker 2: Your last name can't rhyme with Jordles or Chortles and
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Speaker 2: be a pro quarterback. How many If here's the thing,
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Speaker 2: if you bust it out as a core You're for
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Speaker 2: sure sitting around right now going I'm for sure blaming
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Speaker 2: my career on not getting to play during the mcveay
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Speaker 2: Shanahan Tree era.
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Speaker 4: If Blake Bortles had a name like Matt Leonard or
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Speaker 4: Sam Bradford, you know, like some cool name, it would
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Speaker 4: be like, yeah, he'd still be in the league.
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Speaker 2: I think that's what the name was I was trying
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Speaker 2: to think of. I think there is a quarterback Jr.
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Speaker 2: Producer can look this up. I think there was a
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Speaker 2: quarterback a long time ago for the Detroit Lions named
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Speaker 2: Chuck Long. Incredible, not a stage name. He's not an
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Speaker 2: actor playing a character that's sort of based on Joe Namath.
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Speaker 2: He's a real human being named Chuck Long who wound
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Speaker 2: up being a professional quarterback.
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Speaker 4: Like did you see that cigarette commercial starring Chuck Long?
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Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, what else would he endorse? It's cigarettes?
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Speaker 2: Did you yep? From Jay? That's that is it's Chuck
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Speaker 2: longs QB. Yeah, that's the sort of guy who only
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Speaker 2: sells whiskey and cigarettes. That's it. That's all that guy.
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Speaker 2: Most of his commercials are him on a horse, like
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Speaker 2: I'm hey, I'm Chuck Long, quarterback of the Detroit Lions,
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Speaker 2: and I'm ready to heave that ball down the field.
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Speaker 2: Like that didn't have anything to do with the product.
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Speaker 3: Chuck, I'm Chuck Long.
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Speaker 4: Have you tried revenge getting revenge on someone who's wrong
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Speaker 4: to you? It's like, I can't buy revenge, Chuck. Who's
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Speaker 4: paying for this ad space?
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Speaker 2: Oh? I just I just love it a whole lot.
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Speaker 2: Where So let's talk a little bit about the NFC.
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Speaker 2: The Vikings fan base I think split up in your
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Speaker 2: Monday Night loss. I think when Kirk threw short of
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Speaker 2: the sticks, half the state rejoiced on third down and
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Speaker 2: they're like, there it is. And then when he drove
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Speaker 2: down the field and he beat the Eagles and you
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Speaker 2: guys lost, the other half of the state, it was like,
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Speaker 2: there it is. There was a there was a real,
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Speaker 2: like a really divided fan reaction to who people were
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Speaker 2: rooting more against.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's so so it's really really funny that
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Speaker 4: how you bring this up, because again, I think one
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Speaker 4: of the most interesting things about this show is that
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Speaker 4: you get the perspective of other fan bases and it's
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Speaker 4: almost exactly like your own, except you know, different players,
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Speaker 4: different names, different fans, and this is the first time I've.
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Speaker 2: Never thrown a battery at a child.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, I think you need to move
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Speaker 4: on from things that happened in the past.
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Speaker 3: Like I don't think it's healthy to dwell.
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Speaker 2: So well, that's what you have to do with court cases,
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Speaker 2: or you'd be depressed all the time.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I know, and I'm a happy guy.
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Speaker 4: But it's funny that you brought up Kirk and the
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Speaker 4: Falcons because I don't even remember playing them.
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Speaker 3: Because when we.
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Speaker 4: Talk about that loss, it's all our fault, So Kirk
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Speaker 4: has nothing to do with it. It's he was a
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Speaker 4: nameless face that happened to be in a blank jersey.
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Speaker 4: It was the Eagles defense that led us down. It
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Speaker 4: was the Eagles offense, it was the coaches, it was
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Speaker 4: all this stuff. That's how the fan base is interpreting
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Speaker 4: this loss. Kirk just it could have been anyone. It
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Speaker 4: could have been Chuck Long, you know, who was defeating us.
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Speaker 4: No matter who was in that uniform. In Eagles fans's
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Speaker 4: you know, heads, it was we were gonna lose that
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Speaker 4: game because that's what we've been doing.
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Speaker 3: So in terms of Kirk, Kirk was not Kirk was Kirk.
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Speaker 4: You know, he ended up winning, but he didn't do
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Speaker 4: anything special. I don't think he's the reason why they won,
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Speaker 4: just like he wouldn't have been the reason why they lost.
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Speaker 4: He just happened to be a guy playing for the team.
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Speaker 2: What what was the vibe like in that stadium when
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Speaker 2: Sakuon dropped the paths? Because I can tell you when
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Speaker 2: Aaron Jones fumbled going into the goal line. I'm I
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Speaker 2: was not in Minnesota Sunday, and from states away, I
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Speaker 2: could hear the state go no like I could feel them.
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Speaker 2: I could feel them tightening up in the oh my gosh,
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Speaker 2: here we go again.
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Speaker 3: Way.
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Speaker 2: It is the fact that the entire Philly fan base is,
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Speaker 2: you know, their personalities based off a restaurant bar worker
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Speaker 2: who somehow got on the team. Does that not allow
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Speaker 2: you to worry about those sort of moments? Do you
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Speaker 2: guys just pop pali your way through it? Or was
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Speaker 2: the stadium concerned in that marment?
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Speaker 4: So I think you're looking for the phrase of like
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Speaker 4: blue collar hard worker, you know, the backbone of this
19:49
Speaker 4: country might be the phrase that you're thinking of. But
19:51
Speaker 4: you know that's why I'm here to try to clarify
19:53
Speaker 4: these things for you, so you know, not everything is
19:55
Speaker 4: a Mickey Mouse character of a cultures, but as much
20:00
Speaker 4: as we like to pretend that it is. So it's interesting,
20:03
Speaker 4: Saquan may have been the only guy on the field
20:05
Speaker 4: that we would have had this like a non like matriolic,
20:09
Speaker 4: venomous reaction to a mistake like that, because he has
20:12
Speaker 4: been so good where he was a contract where it
20:17
Speaker 4: was uncharacteristic of the Eagles and honestly any NFL team
20:20
Speaker 4: to give a running back that amount of money, you know,
20:24
Speaker 4: twelve plus million a year. And he also, you have
20:28
Speaker 4: to think, is a Penn State player, so Philly doesn't
20:32
Speaker 4: is not a college football city, so you know, Penn
20:36
Speaker 4: State's like three four hours away, but that's kind of
20:39
Speaker 4: the football school. So he had over one hundred yards
20:42
Speaker 4: in the first game, won us that first game with
20:44
Speaker 4: three touchdowns, most touchdowns in a debut I think since
20:47
Speaker 4: Terrell Owens and this game. He was playing incredibly well too,
20:51
Speaker 4: So when he dropped that ball to get us past
20:53
Speaker 4: the sticks, which would have allowed us to run out
20:55
Speaker 4: the clock and win or score, everyone was just in
20:58
Speaker 4: kind of shock and looking for someone else to blame
21:03
Speaker 4: in that situation where like, we can't blame Saquon, this
21:06
Speaker 4: is the only positive thing that's happening for us right now.
21:09
Speaker 4: We cannot blame him. Who whose fault is this? Because
21:13
Speaker 4: it can't be his?
21:15
Speaker 3: It was. It was a huge bummer.
21:16
Speaker 2: The Vikings take on the Houston Texans on Sunday. I
21:21
Speaker 2: think there are very few people who thought they would
21:23
Speaker 2: be too and zero. I think the team is displaying
21:26
Speaker 2: an interesting amount of confidence. And I've always I've always
21:30
Speaker 2: thought despite how the fans and media perceive football and
21:39
Speaker 2: football team's journey and and and how they end up
21:43
Speaker 2: being good or not good as a team, I tend
21:46
Speaker 2: to think guys who play no pretty quickly, especially if
21:51
Speaker 2: they're veterans, if you have an older team, I don't
21:54
Speaker 2: think they go to like they get to week one
21:56
Speaker 2: and go, huh, we are bad. I think they knew
21:59
Speaker 2: it right. So I think the niners wins surprised a
22:04
Speaker 2: lot of people, and even surprised a lot of Viking fans.
22:09
Speaker 2: I do not think it surprised the locker room. That
22:13
Speaker 2: being said, I think the Houston Texans are a whole
22:17
Speaker 2: different sort of challenge. I don't think they're gonna mess
22:21
Speaker 2: around I don't think they're gonna dink and dunk. I
22:24
Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna control the game. I think they're
22:26
Speaker 2: gonna look at how good this defense has been and
22:28
Speaker 2: they're gonna go screw it. I'm heaving the ball like
22:33
Speaker 2: six seven play drives, not fourteen to fifteen play drives.
22:37
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna come out and be willing to
22:40
Speaker 2: engage in a shootout and see if we can keep up.
22:43
Speaker 2: It is a pretty interesting test for a team that
22:47
Speaker 2: no one believed would have this opportunity this early.
22:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's interesting, and obviously it's early in the season,
22:54
Speaker 4: but to me, this game will tell us a lot
22:57
Speaker 4: about the forty nine ers, also because the forty nine
23:01
Speaker 4: ers is everybody's pick, or it was everybody's pick to
23:04
Speaker 4: come out of the NFC.
23:05
Speaker 2: Is this Are you doing the thing where you make
23:07
Speaker 2: this like no matter what I talk about, you bring
23:10
Speaker 2: up somebody who cheated on you, like a girlfriend who
23:13
Speaker 2: cheated on you. Is is that what's happening here?
23:15
Speaker 3: Well, what I was trying to say, no, no, So
23:17
Speaker 3: I'm not doing that at all.
23:18
Speaker 4: What I'm trying to say is you're gonna like, you
23:19
Speaker 4: know the fact that you were able to overcome the
23:21
Speaker 4: forty nine ers seventy five quarterbacks, makes you in a
23:25
Speaker 4: good position to who knows how many quarterbacks Houston's gonna
23:28
Speaker 4: bring to the table. No, I do think that it's
23:32
Speaker 4: a similar situation in that, like, you know, the weapons
23:36
Speaker 4: that the skill position weapons that Houston has are kind
23:40
Speaker 4: of similar to that of probably a letter grade down
23:46
Speaker 4: from that of the forty nine ers.
23:47
Speaker 3: I think you have a better quarterback in my.
23:49
Speaker 2: Opinion, and better quarterback, maybe more speed. I don't know.
23:53
Speaker 2: The Stefan Diggs thing is crazy. What I'm honestly most
23:57
Speaker 2: curious about is how Stefan Diggs will be received like
24:03
Speaker 2: this and as a as an absolute lunatic who disrespects
24:08
Speaker 2: anyone who dares put on a different jersey, you know,
24:11
Speaker 2: you and your city. I imagine if he went back
24:15
Speaker 2: to Philly, go poorly. I'm really hoping that the Viking
24:18
Speaker 2: fans greet him with a bunch of love, regardless of
24:22
Speaker 2: his exit, regardless of anything else. He is responsible for, arguably,
24:27
Speaker 2: if not inarguably is that a word. Yeah, he is
24:32
Speaker 2: responsible for the greatest moment in the franchise's history. From
24:36
Speaker 2: an excitement standpoint, From an iconic standpoint. When they write
24:40
Speaker 2: the book on the greatest plays that have ever happened
24:42
Speaker 2: in NFL history, no matter how many years from now
24:45
Speaker 2: it will be, that is going to be right up
24:47
Speaker 2: at the tippy top of the list. It's so I
24:51
Speaker 2: hope he gets the love he deserves, and then I
24:53
Speaker 2: hope he gets one catch for eleven yards and fumbles
24:58
Speaker 2: a pass into a defender's hand.
25:00
Speaker 4: This is how I would want from Philadelphia pans, where
25:03
Speaker 4: it's like, I don't let's.
25:04
Speaker 3: Not have any bad pr here. Let's just have them
25:07
Speaker 3: come out.
25:08
Speaker 4: Don't give away anything that can be thrown, don't give
25:12
Speaker 4: anything that can amplify a human's voice.
25:15
Speaker 3: Louder than it should be.
25:17
Speaker 4: Let the player come out, get mute all the microphones,
25:21
Speaker 4: give them an ovation or whatever.
25:23
Speaker 3: Play a little highlight reel.
25:25
Speaker 4: Because here's the thing with the that's a great point
25:27
Speaker 4: with the iconic play, where if you put that play
25:30
Speaker 4: up on the Megas screen, you know, up on the
25:32
Speaker 4: Titan tron, the whole crowd's going to go nuts like that.
25:36
Speaker 4: I'm getting goosebumps thinking about that play, and I'm not
25:38
Speaker 4: even a Minnesota fan. So I feel like that's the
25:42
Speaker 4: change is there?
25:43
Speaker 2: Anything that Nick Foles could do, like literally, like when
25:46
Speaker 2: he left, is there anything he could have done to
25:49
Speaker 2: hurt I mean that's a different level because it's a
25:51
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, right. I feel like Nick Foles could marry
25:55
Speaker 2: your wife and set your house on fire and you'd
25:58
Speaker 2: still You'd be like, I gotta get in the burning
26:00
Speaker 2: house and.
26:01
Speaker 3: Save his jersey.
26:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this is not an interesting answer, but the
26:06
Speaker 4: answer is no, there's nothing wrong that he can do.
26:09
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of another similar thing where McNabb
26:14
Speaker 4: might be an interesting one. Wherefore before we got the
26:18
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, because McNabb is the best quarterback the Eagles
26:22
Speaker 4: have ever had he left and even better than people
26:26
Speaker 4: you know. It might it might sound surprising because obviously
26:29
Speaker 4: he played for the Vikings too, But McNabb had a
26:31
Speaker 4: much better career for the Eagles than Randall Cunningham did,
26:34
Speaker 4: and he was better than Ron Jaworski. He was better
26:37
Speaker 4: than you know everyone. But who has a statue outside
26:40
Speaker 4: the stadium. It's Nick Foles. So nick Foles is his
26:43
Speaker 4: own weird thing. But when McNabb came back, it was
26:47
Speaker 4: mixed emotions and mixed reception because he didn't have that
26:51
Speaker 4: one iconic moment. He just had overall a great career.
26:55
Speaker 4: It would be as if Iverson's another one were like
26:58
Speaker 4: if Iverson had somehow join the Knicks or something and
27:03
Speaker 4: had a great career, but he was so iconic for us.
27:06
Speaker 4: If they had laid his step over of Tyron Lou
27:10
Speaker 4: or something, the whole crowd would still go nuts. So yeah,
27:13
Speaker 4: it's Philly's interesting where it's the personality and how they
27:18
Speaker 4: conducted themselves. I'm sure that's the same thing with any
27:20
Speaker 4: sports city. It's not just specific Afhilly.
27:22
Speaker 2: Well, it's not the same. It's there are some things
27:23
Speaker 2: specific to Philly. But I can't stop thinking about how
27:27
Speaker 2: that is funny that they built Nick Foles a statue.
27:30
Speaker 2: It makes sense. But if the Vikings won a Super Bowl,
27:34
Speaker 2: I don't even know if they make enough medal. I
27:39
Speaker 2: don't know if anybody's mind enough metal for the amount
27:41
Speaker 2: they'd be like, should we what about the security guard
27:44
Speaker 2: who worked outside the stadium? Should we get him a statue?
27:46
Speaker 2: Like that's a super interesting thing. With the Donald thing,
27:49
Speaker 2: I think I don't want to get ahead of ourselves here.
27:52
Speaker 4: You no no predict what's your prediction side, what's gonna
27:55
Speaker 4: happen two games into the season. But what where's Sam
27:59
Speaker 4: Donald's statue? You're gonna go outside of your stadium?
28:07
Speaker 2: Listen to me, I don't. This is all gravy for me.
28:11
Speaker 2: I went into this season and my brain was, they
28:14
Speaker 2: got seventy five million bucks in cap room next year.
28:17
Speaker 2: If Jordan Addison, Dallas Turner, and Ivan Pace are all
28:21
Speaker 2: big time guys, we're about to have a really fun
28:24
Speaker 2: three or four years at least. And so I was
28:28
Speaker 2: not connected to the record. Now you sucker me in.
28:35
Speaker 2: I'm getting a little connected to the record. So I
28:37
Speaker 2: like this team, could they could go thirteen and four
28:40
Speaker 2: or they could go, you know, six and eleven. I'm
28:43
Speaker 2: not necessarily connected to that. I'm saying in a hypothetical
28:46
Speaker 2: world where something crazy happens and this season takes off
28:50
Speaker 2: like no one imagined Nick Foles would lead the Philadelphia
28:55
Speaker 2: Eagles to a Super Bowl Absolutely no one. I can
28:58
Speaker 2: tell you if, whether Sam Donald or anyone else, But
29:01
Speaker 2: let's talk about Donald because he's in the position. If
29:03
Speaker 2: somehow some miracle run happened and the Vikings went from
29:08
Speaker 2: cellar dweller predictions across the media to Super Bowl champions.
29:13
Speaker 2: I don't think you could count the amount of statues.
29:16
Speaker 2: I think there would be people that this fan base
29:19
Speaker 2: is so desperate for a winner of any type in
29:21
Speaker 2: any sport, but specifically the Vikings. I think there would
29:25
Speaker 2: be people who had Sam Donald's statues in their front lawns.
29:29
Speaker 2: I think there would be Sam Donald elementary schools. I
29:33
Speaker 2: think I think that's a guy who you just you live.
29:36
Speaker 2: You can't leave the state anymore. You're too famous. You're
29:40
Speaker 2: more important in Minnesota than David Hasselhoff ever was in Germany.
29:45
Speaker 4: No, and shout out to Germany, and I I also
29:49
Speaker 4: know I do agree. Yeah, it's it's unquantifiable, you know,
29:53
Speaker 4: like the Sam Donald thing is because he is that
29:56
Speaker 4: same underdog story too, like or or even maybe more accurately,
30:01
Speaker 4: Nick Mullins or Brett Rippion somehow leads you guys to
30:05
Speaker 4: a super Bowl. You know, it's such a crazy story,
30:10
Speaker 4: Like just like you.
30:10
Speaker 2: Guys, it took you so long to win a super Bowl.
30:12
Speaker 2: It feels like when they finally win one, you won't
30:15
Speaker 2: get to do it through like and then we drafted
30:17
Speaker 2: our future Hall of Famer and he led us to
30:20
Speaker 2: a super Bowl. It feels to me that it's gonna
30:23
Speaker 2: be like and then we found this guy throwing footballs
30:28
Speaker 2: to a janitor behind the stadium, and we gave him
30:31
Speaker 2: like it to break the Vikings Super Bowl curse. It
30:35
Speaker 2: almost seems like it's gonna take something weird and herculean
30:38
Speaker 2: that you didn't expect that Nick Foles year, it was
30:42
Speaker 2: Case Keenum. There's no one on the planet who's like
30:45
Speaker 2: Case Keenum's almost gonna win a super Bowl and he
30:47
Speaker 2: almost Dude, imagine if he didn't won a super Bowl
30:51
Speaker 2: in your home stadium.
30:53
Speaker 3: That's it would have imploded. Yeah, that is a.
30:55
Speaker 2: Level of I think there are people who still have
30:58
Speaker 2: are still taking pete.
31:01
Speaker 4: I've taken a life pto from that super Bowl where
31:05
Speaker 4: I don't really have goals anymore. I used to be
31:08
Speaker 4: really goal oriented and ambitious. But I'm like, so I
31:12
Speaker 4: did I did that. I won a super Bowl and
31:16
Speaker 4: it's it's still daily the best thing in the entire world.
31:20
Speaker 4: And I'm not being funny here, Like the amount that
31:24
Speaker 4: that is elevated my general mood and happiness on a
31:27
Speaker 4: day to day basis is by I'm trying to give
31:30
Speaker 4: you a real number here. I'm not going to exaggerate
31:32
Speaker 4: at all thirty five to forty five percent on a
31:36
Speaker 4: daily basis. I'm happier from a thing that happened in
31:40
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen. That's it's forty one to thirty three. It's truly,
31:46
Speaker 4: and that weight, it's it's horrible the weight. Probably if
31:51
Speaker 4: the amount of years that this is added to my life,
31:52
Speaker 4: I don't know, like three years of happiness. The amount
31:55
Speaker 4: of years that watching Philadelphia sports in general have taken
31:58
Speaker 4: away from my life.
31:59
Speaker 3: Probably thirty one years.
32:00
Speaker 4: So it's not really you know, it's a net negative
32:03
Speaker 4: watching Philly's sports, But you're right if you got when
32:06
Speaker 4: you get it, whether it's a Sam Darnold, whether it's
32:10
Speaker 4: McCarthy who, whether it's a trade, Uh, there's gonna be
32:14
Speaker 4: a statue because the longer you wait for a title.
32:16
Speaker 2: The bigger the statue gets.
32:19
Speaker 4: Exactly, it's gonna be the half the stadium is going
32:22
Speaker 4: to be made out of the statue, you know, like
32:24
Speaker 4: his head, Yeah.
32:25
Speaker 2: His statue.
32:25
Speaker 3: Yeah.
32:26
Speaker 2: What I'm over the tush push. It's just become boring.
32:31
Speaker 2: It's not even like I dislike it. It's so boring,
32:36
Speaker 2: like defend it, please, it's so unruly boring. I care
32:42
Speaker 2: about it. So little. Please make it illegal, just to
32:47
Speaker 2: bring interest back to fourth and third downs.
32:50
Speaker 3: I hear you.
32:51
Speaker 4: It's not our faultet that it's boring. It's because so
32:53
Speaker 4: much hype was built around it by people who have
32:56
Speaker 4: nothing interesting to say and who want to ruin our
32:59
Speaker 4: our fourth down. Can versions that it became boring. So
33:03
Speaker 4: what the tush push is is a quarterback sneak. That's
33:07
Speaker 4: all it is. DeVante Smith weighs one hundred and fourteen pounds. Okay,
33:11
Speaker 4: the fact that he is pushing Jalen Hurts isn't really
33:14
Speaker 4: making up three yards. Jalen Hurts. His ability to his
33:18
Speaker 4: leg strength is what makes the playwork. It wasn't even
33:22
Speaker 4: Jason Kelsey. It's timing and how strong our quarterback's legs are.
33:27
Speaker 3: Remember like Tom.
33:28
Speaker 4: Brady had the craziest QB sneak percentage for years and
33:33
Speaker 4: he just fell forward. Like there's just something. It's a
33:37
Speaker 4: quarterback thing and it's called you know, I think it
33:39
Speaker 4: has so much hype because that is a funny name,
33:41
Speaker 4: the tush push, and then they ruin that they call
33:43
Speaker 4: it the brotherly shove.
33:46
Speaker 2: God, you're uncreative. City full.
33:51
Speaker 4: Joe, eat a cheese curd. Go dip it. Go dip
33:55
Speaker 4: your cheese curd and ranch by the lake.
33:58
Speaker 2: We I'll definitely do it by the like. And for
34:01
Speaker 2: the people who are listening from Philadelphia, that's a large
34:03
Speaker 2: body of water, and water is something that people use
34:07
Speaker 2: to clean themselves.
34:09
Speaker 4: But we have those outside our homes. When the fire
34:11
Speaker 4: extinguisher breaks, we have lakes.
34:13
Speaker 2: Let's close on this. So the Detroit loses, by the way,
34:18
Speaker 2: the Bucks that I'm gonna answer my ound question before
34:21
Speaker 2: I even ask it. But as you're looking around the NFC,
34:24
Speaker 2: you know there's some teams that are like, oh, are
34:26
Speaker 2: the Cardinals good? The Lions lose one? You know, the
34:30
Speaker 2: Bucks are fascinating to me. I think they're scary good.
34:34
Speaker 2: I think the Baker thing is really interesting. I don't
34:37
Speaker 2: know how we haven't recognized that Chris Godwin and Mike
34:41
Speaker 2: Evans are as good as they are. I mean, maybe
34:43
Speaker 2: that's just me, but it feels like they've been heavily overlooked.
34:46
Speaker 2: But as you a team who thinks you have Super
34:49
Speaker 2: Bowl aspirations, that's a thing that you believe. Is there
34:53
Speaker 2: anyone that genuinely worries you?
34:55
Speaker 3: The Philadelphia Eagles terrify me. The most.
34:57
Speaker 4: I would say they scare me more than any other team.
35:01
Speaker 4: I would say, honestly, it's so early. Detroit is a
35:07
Speaker 4: team that I think will get its legs underneath itself.
35:10
Speaker 4: And I really do think the Niners just have so
35:12
Speaker 4: much talent. Honestly, watching watching Dallas in that first game,
35:17
Speaker 4: that win was so big over Cleveland, and then the
35:22
Speaker 4: way they.
35:22
Speaker 2: Just beautiful, you know, beautiful. Yeah, it was gorgeous, really
35:27
Speaker 2: really beautiful.
35:28
Speaker 4: If I was an impartial observer, which I couldn't, that's
35:31
Speaker 4: going to be the name of my next album. I
35:33
Speaker 4: would say it's been an interesting two weeks because a
35:36
Speaker 4: lot of these teams that everybody thought was unassailable have
35:39
Speaker 4: lost at least one game.
35:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the Bucks look good.
35:43
Speaker 2: And the Bucks look good. Yeah, Okay, buddy, Well I
35:46
Speaker 2: I appreciate you doing it.
35:47
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you for being here.
35:49
Speaker 2: Thank you for stepping in on a week where it
35:51
Speaker 2: turns out there aren't comedians from Houston. Uh they're from there,
35:57
Speaker 2: but they don't care about the team. So we'll talk
36:00
Speaker 2: talk little Eagles, we'll talk little Vikings, and we will
36:02
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