Latest / Brett Keane and Eve Show / Hell 4 Satanists, Black Flame, Occult, Church of Satan, Theistic Satanism, Demon Rules Brett Keane
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- 0:34So where did all this energy in space come from?
- 0:39The answer was found after decades of work by scientists.
- 0:43Space and energy was spontaneously created in an
- 0:48event we now call The Big Bang. At the moment of The Big Bang,
- 0:59an entire universe full of energy came into existence, and
- 1:04within space it all inflated, just like a balloon being blown
- 1:13up. So where did all this energy and
- 1:19space come from? How does an entire universe full
- 1:25of energy, the awesome vastness of space, and everything in it
- 1:31simply appear out of nothing? The sun?
- 1:36This is where God comes back into the picture.
- 1:50The soldiers don't give yourselves
- 2:50the brutes. Men who despise you and slave
- 2:52you, who regiment your lives, tell you what to do, what to
- 2:55think and what to feel. Who drill you, diet you, treat
- 2:58you like cattle, use you as cannon fodder.
- 3:01Don't give yourselves to these unnatural men, machine men with
- 3:05machine minds and machine hearts.
- 3:07You are not machines. You are not cattle.
- 3:09You are men. You have the love of humanity in
- 3:12your hearts. You don't hate only the unloved.
- 3:14Hate the unloved and the unnatural.
- 3:17Soldiers don't fight for slavery, fight for liberty.
- 3:20In the 17th chapter of Saint Lucas is written, The Kingdom of
- 3:23God is within man. Not one man, nor a group of men,
- 3:26but in all men. In you, you the people have the
- 3:29power, the power to create machines, the power to create
- 3:32happiness. You, the people, have the power
- 3:34to make this life free and beautiful.
- 3:36To make this life a wonderful adventure in the name of
- 3:39democracy. There are shoes.
- 3:41That power. Let us all unite.
- 3:43Let us fight for a new world, a decent world that will give men
- 3:47a chance to work, that will give you the future and old age of
- 3:50security. As a promise of these things.
- 3:52Brutes have risen to power, but they lie.
- 3:55They do not fulfill their promise.
- 3:57They never will. Dictators free themselves, but
- 4:00they enslave the people. Now let us fight to fulfill that
- 4:04promise. Let us fight to free the world,
- 4:07to do away with national barriers, to do away with grief,
- 4:10with hate and intolerance. Let us fight for a world of
- 4:13reason, a world where science and progress will lead to all
- 4:17men's happiness. Soldiers, in the name of
- 4:21democracy, let us all unite somebody we imagine nothing can
- 4:31stand. In our way.
- 4:35Have to believe, we imagine. Don't let your aim in the string
- 4:51and your foil survive. Definitely Will.
- 5:04Good morning, Taylor Swift is not a psyop.
- 5:06Taylor Swift is not a psyop. A Psyop Taylor Swift is not a
- 5:10Taylor Swift is not a Psyop Taylor Swift is not a Psyop
- 5:13Taylor Swift is not a. Psyop, Taylor Swift is not.
- 5:15A. Psyop.
- 5:16Taylor Swift is not a Psyop Taylor Taylor Swift is not a.
- 5:25Is this epic? Good pastaion is what I showed
- 5:29is the richest key factor. NYPRA shirt na paki na mak is
- 5:48Rashini is the latest one that did not get me put the
- 5:51pedophilia abuelo. So normally, normally
- 6:08it's reason. You're great.
- 6:47This is just some you know what Cascade is the premier planner
- 6:52with Planner with Proud the Pocket Orchid.
- 7:13Sure is. So I am going to spend the next
- 7:39minute screaming because that is what what is going on in here.
- 7:44That is what the trans genocide in this country, in this city,
- 7:48has brought me to. Imagine that.
- 8:11Oh my God. I cannot do this anymore.
- 8:24I'm so I got that. I am sick.
- 8:28I'm so bullshit. Get out of my face.
- 8:34Oh my gosh. Hi.
- 8:35How are you doing? My name is Pistachio.
- 8:38Like the nut. Umm, how are you doing?
- 8:40This is my first day of school. I'm so excited to be here.
- 8:43I'm actually a furry. I don't know if you guys have
- 8:44any other furries in the school. I just might do my mating call
- 8:47to see if there's any other furries.
- 8:54Oh, I was just doing a call to see if there was any other
- 8:56furries here because I like to be in an environment where I'm
- 8:58surrounded by my pack. And yes, I know I may be a
- 9:01human, but in my inside of my head, I'm all wolf.
- 9:05Yes, I am a wolf. Meow meow.
- 9:10Oh wait, that's a cat noise. Sometimes, like, my cat
- 9:12instincts come out, but I really am a wolf.
- 9:15But I think I was a wolf raised by a pack of cats.
- 9:18Because I don't know, I can't really remember my childhood
- 9:20because there was a lot of trauma.
- 9:22But yeah, I also love anime. What's your favorite anime?
- 9:25My favorite anime is probably like Death Note or Gunslinger
- 9:28Girl. Those are like my actual
- 9:29favorite animes. You don't watch anime?
- 9:32Oh, OK. Anyways, it was really nice to
- 9:36meet you. You're really kind and stuff,
- 9:37but I think you're a little just you're just a little too human
- 9:40for me. I'd like to be around people
- 9:42that are like very hairy, if you know what I mean.
- 9:44Not like that. But I mean furry hairs, you
- 9:47know? But yeah, I guess it was nice
- 9:58meeting you. And I'll see you later.
- 10:01I'm going to go outside and dig in some dirt, so.
- 10:04Bye. Here, and it will be the flag of
- 10:10Leila Muhammad. Al Allah will be inshallah in
- 10:12the White House if the American people are waking up now.
- 10:15Allah does say that the whole world eventually will be under
- 10:18His His ruling. The world will come down to
- 10:21where everybody obeys the laws of God.
- 10:23As simple as that. We will force Islamic shoddy
- 10:27inshallah here and it will be the flag of Lai Lai Allah.
- 10:32Muhammad Al Assallah will be inshallah in the White House.
- 10:35And the American people are waking up now.
- 10:36Allah does say. That the whole world eventually
- 10:39will be under His His ruling. The world will come down to
- 10:42where everybody obeys the laws of God.
- 10:45As simple as that. We will force Islamic shoddy.
- 10:49Inshallah. Well, I'm the Muslim cowboy
- 10:55playing my guitar. Girl, I hear you're nine years
- 10:58old, so climb on in my car. If you try to run away, you
- 11:02won't get very far 'cause I will beat you senseless while I
- 11:06scream Allah Akbar and speaker. I called the resolution
- 11:14previously noticed. The clerk will report the
- 11:16resolution. House Resolution 489, whereas
- 11:20the allegation that President Donald Trump colluded with
- 11:23Russia to steal the 2016 presidential election has been
- 11:27revealed as false by numerous in depth investigations, including
- 11:31the recent report by special Counsel John Durham, which
- 11:34documents how the conspiracy theory was invented, funded and
- 11:37spread by President Trump's political rivals.
- 11:40Whereas Representative Adam Schiff, who served as ranking
- 11:42minority member and then Chairman of the Permit Select
- 11:45Committee on Intelligence of the House of Representatives, HPSCI
- 11:50occupied positions of extreme trust, affording him access to
- 11:54sensitive intelligence unavailable to most members of
- 11:56Congress. Whereas for years,
- 11:58Representative Schiff abused this trust by citing evidence of
- 12:02collusion that, as is clear from reports by Special Counsel
- 12:05Robert Mueller, Department of Justice Inspector General
- 12:08Michael Horowitz, a Special Counsel Durham, does not exist.
- 12:13Whereas by repeatedly telling these falsehoods, Representative
- 12:16Schiff purposely deceived his committee, Congress and the
- 12:19American people. Whereas Representative Schiff
- 12:22Schiff lent credibility to the Steele Dossier, a collection of
- 12:26debunk collusion accusations funded by President Trump's
- 12:29political rivals, by reading false Steele allegations into
- 12:33the Congressional Record at an HPSCI hearing on March 20th,
- 12:372017. For years they've been telling
- 12:40us the president of the United States is racist.
- 12:45These comments are disgraceful and disgusting and are racist.
- 12:50Donald Trump is a yes, absolutely.
- 12:51I can say that now. He has been racist.
- 12:55Abraham Lincoln here is one of the most racist presidents we've
- 12:58had in modern history. What if he never was a racist?
- 13:01Is Trump a racist? I've talked to a number of black
- 13:04entrepreneurs. We're trying to get financing.
- 13:07They could. Somebody told him to go check
- 13:09with Donald Trump. What a beautiful person you are.
- 13:13You gave him a term loan, They independently.
- 13:23Relate this tale that when they saw him he said this which he's
- 13:26supposed to be this our agreements and yeah and then
- 13:28tore the check up, shook their hands and congratulations now
- 13:32run your business. What if Donald Trump wasn't the
- 13:34man that? Told you he was.
- 13:36There's a lot to be said for Donald Trump one day.
- 13:39Yeah, there's a lot. You know, he's a good guy.
- 13:41He is really a good guy. He's not a racist.
- 13:44I. He's not growing up in the Deep
- 13:46South. I've seen racism up close.
- 13:49I know what it is, and it isn't Donald Trump.
- 13:53Racism is evil and those who cause violence in its name are
- 13:57criminals and thugs, including the KKK.
- 14:01So here now, is just a sampling of the long history of misogyny
- 14:05we have seen over the years from Donald Trump, who is a sexist,
- 14:09and now a sweeping report about the way he treats women.
- 14:13He's been sexist. What if he was never a sexist?
- 14:16I've known my father obviously my whole life, and he has total
- 14:20respect for women. A woman in the audience asked
- 14:22Trump if he'd hired veterans at that hotel.
- 14:25Here's how he responded. Do you mind if I do a job
- 14:28interview right now? We need good people.
- 14:31How are you? Yes, Mr. Trump What What we just
- 14:34witnessed here was pretty remarkable.
- 14:35I mean this is a. Complete stranger who just came
- 14:37up and you. Offered her a job.
- 14:39What? What?
- 14:40Inside your gut gave me the feeling that I felt good about
- 14:43her. I tell you what, I looked at
- 14:44her. I said she, you know, I have gut
- 14:47instinct, OK? Look at that with the tears.
- 14:49How nice. She's just a good.
- 14:51She just seemed like a good person to me.
- 14:54He's a race baiting. He's a pig.
- 14:56Xenophobic. A mutt.
- 14:58Religious bigot. He appeared to moth a reporter
- 15:02with a disability. What if he wasn't a bigot at
- 15:04all? What if he was actually warm and
- 15:11compassionate President Donald Trump?
- 15:13For you. Hey, how you doing?
- 15:14Hold on one minute. All right.
- 15:17Sounds good. Holy Christ, what do I get to?
- 15:25Hey I just. Saw a picture of you?
- 15:28No, you're giving me. Kind honours.
- 15:34Thank you. A lot of good things are
- 15:36happening to get yourself. A lot of good things are
- 15:38happening in terms of the medical stuff.
- 15:40You keep that fight going, We both fight, OK?
- 15:48You keep that going, OK? I will do my end.
- 15:52In a world where illusions can deceive, discernment becomes our
- 15:55Lantern, guiding us to uncover the untold truth that may lie
- 15:59obscured by the hands of perception.
- 16:12This is Michael Fanon, an awoke Democrat Little bitch, author of
- 16:17the book I'm a Democrat, Little Bitch.
- 16:21And on behalf of of all of us little bitches here in the fake
- 16:25News media, thank you for being the face of every single woke
- 16:30Democrat little bitch out there, right?
- 16:34You ready? Yeah, When you're ready.
- 16:37OK, since the January 6th attack on the US Capitol when
- 16:41supporters of Donald Trump stormed this building trying to
- 16:45prevent the election victory of Joe Biden from being certified
- 16:48on the anniversary, oh. My God.
- 16:59Oh God, Sam. Let's listen in as NASA reveals
- 17:06their findings. I'll read a transcript from some
- 17:11of the survivors of the UAP abductions.
- 17:15This one is from someone who would like to remain anonymous.
- 17:19We'll call him Ron, he wrote. I woke up in a white room
- 17:24surrounded by strange creatures that resembled Adam Schiff.
- 17:28They bent me over a table and I became very nervous as the probe
- 17:34entered my butt hole. I tried to relax.
- 17:38Unfortunately for me, I got a bowel movement and started
- 17:41spraying poop all over the aliens.
- 17:44This seemed to disturb them very much, and to this day I'm
- 17:49thankful for my IBS, which may have saved not only my life but
- 17:54my anus as well. And we will get them.
- 17:58But I will not. Not now, Not ever.
- 18:02Support raising the gas. Tax.
- 18:05Finally, let's increase the gas tax by $0.10 over the next three
- 18:10years. I would not run as President
- 18:12Trump ran. I'm Nikki Haley and I'm running
- 18:15for president. Every person on social media
- 18:17should be verified by their name.
- 18:20I never said government should go and require anyone's next.
- 18:23But what we do know is 65 is way too low and we need to increase.
- 18:27That. The claiming the retirement age
- 18:29is quote, way, way too low. I've never once said that.
- 18:34I never said Hillary Clinton was an inspiration.
- 18:37I went with my friend Eleanor Kitzman to affirm and Leadership
- 18:41program where Hillary Clinton was speaking.
- 18:43And I walked out of there and I said I'm running for office.
- 18:49Hello, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Brett Keene and you
- 18:52are watching and listening to the Brett Keene Show.
- 18:55I hope you're all having a wonderful day out there.
- 18:59As many of you know, I've done a couple live shows in the past
- 19:02two weeks, hung out with some pretty cool and friendly
- 19:06Satanists. And I also hung out with a few
- 19:08of my friends over on Rumble, John Geschella, as well as Von
- 19:13Hilton, my Pagan friend and Jewish, Muslim kind of friend.
- 19:19He's a hybrid of both, I suppose.
- 19:22Yeah, I see. We got somebody here called
- 19:24Black Metal Aller 666. How are you doing?
- 19:29Doing well on you, Sir. I'm doing all right.
- 19:32What do you think about some of those clips?
- 19:35Oh fuck, dude. That.
- 19:37Some of them just, like, especially that woke liberal
- 19:40shit, man. It just fucked my head a little
- 19:42bit. Especially that screaming one
- 19:44and that furry dude. Oh hell no.
- 19:48Do you notice there seems to be a pattern that seems to be a way
- 19:51a lot of them act if you try. To I noticed that for like past
- 19:55many years and it's just like surprisingly I'm like 20 and and
- 20:00I'm just like what is going on with my generation?
- 20:03It's like this is not right at all.
- 20:06Why do you think that they behave that way?
- 20:08For? What's your theories?
- 20:11It's something to do with like just the entire like politic
- 20:15change. It's like everything is like, I
- 20:17feel like the entire media like changed during the 2016 election
- 20:23and when Donald Trump got in power, the wokes like they
- 20:26started hijacking both like the Hollywood and the other, you
- 20:30know, forms of media. But then when Joe Biden came in
- 20:33along with the coronavirus, that's where the literally
- 20:37everything just went so bad. And now everyone, they start to
- 20:41saying, hey, we got to be afraid right now because of the cancel
- 20:44culture, or else we'll be canceled because the society is
- 20:47now just so sensitive and we're basically in a civil war.
- 20:50Just nobody will notice it till it's too late.
- 20:54So what do you do? You think there's any way to be
- 20:56able to turn this around or or fix things?
- 21:00In my opinion is we need to have a lot of regulation on
- 21:04everything. We need to start, you know, not
- 21:08be afraid of allowing these weak woke people thinking that
- 21:13they're thinking like they're doing good, but reality is they
- 21:17don't see themselves pretty good.
- 21:18They're self deceiving themselves.
- 21:21And thanks to the Satanic Bible I've been reading, I've been
- 21:24studying Satanism for a while because in fact I am a Satanist
- 21:28as well. Not one of those Gilmorian
- 21:29idiots, though, because I've been watching with you doing
- 21:34interviews with Lucifer Lake Gorftin.
- 21:38Were you one of the people that actually came in and
- 21:41participated because your voice says you did come in?
- 21:44Yes, I did. Yes.
- 21:47Well, if you don't mind me asking, because we'll talk about
- 21:50a lot of different things, but one of the things I liked about
- 21:53that Mister Gordon was he's very open about his views and willing
- 21:57to pretty much talk about anything, if you don't mind.
- 22:00Were you always a Satanist or how did that country work into
- 22:05it? Well, when I was like a kid I
- 22:08wasn't really grew up in a very religiously.
- 22:11It's not until I was about 16 and 17 I started getting into
- 22:15Satanism. And when I read the Satanic
- 22:18Bible, at first I didn't know the understanding of this
- 22:22meaning because at the time I was woke myself because I was
- 22:26because at the time I thought I was doing something good.
- 22:28It's not till later like last year I realized this stupidity
- 22:33when I read his third edition of the Satanic Testament.
- 22:36It actually it opened my eyes and now I realized what a true
- 22:41median. Now I'm a basic member of the
- 22:44STS. Right now I do have my
- 22:46membership card if you want to see the verification.
- 22:51I believe you, ma'am. If that's your position in your
- 22:54view, I'm not going to aggravate you about it.
- 22:57If you say it and it is what it is, how do you?
- 23:01Obviously you had thought at one point in time that being woke
- 23:05was the right thing, and I believe a lot of people who are
- 23:07woke are actually thinking they're somehow the good guys
- 23:11and the rest of the world is evil.
- 23:13How does one get adopt that idea?
- 23:17It's very easy to get into like, especially when you're my age.
- 23:23It's because it's literally because it's just how the media
- 23:27just fucks you over. And then when you actually start
- 23:30asking questions, that's when you start realizing like, shit,
- 23:35So my destiny is meant to be more like center, right.
- 23:39So now I'm more like a like I was kind of very, like, very,
- 23:42very right wing then I was very left wing Now I'm kind of more
- 23:45of a like moderate right slash anarcho capitalist.
- 23:49But yeah, I'm more of a moderate right.
- 23:50But when I noticed the how things became what it is, I
- 23:56realized Yep and I should. Now I need to refix it.
- 24:01And luckily, the Satanic Testament kind of got me back to
- 24:04the direction I supposed to go. Now that's an interesting way of
- 24:09putting it. How do you feel that Satanism
- 24:12brought you back into more of what you referred to as clarity?
- 24:18Well, at the time, like I thought, you know, Satanism at
- 24:22the time was supposed to be a left wing ideology and probably
- 24:26everyone thought about that. But then I start kind of
- 24:29questioning about the woke thing and if it's actually right.
- 24:33But then when I got back into Satanism, what it really is, I
- 24:37realized, Yup, this is exactly what I should be following.
- 24:42And now I realized I should have I've that's my path, I should
- 24:47go. And now we'll get back at The
- 24:49Satanic Bible. I agree with a lot with Anton
- 24:54Zander Levay said. And I've been reading on some
- 24:57Michael Aquino's book and Bender Sitana's books as well, and I've
- 25:01been incorporating some elements of Satianism, Cathulianism,
- 25:04Luciferianism, demonology, and even sometimes even some
- 25:07Paganism as well. Well, as you know, one of the
- 25:12big topics that me and Mr. Gordon and the other gentleman
- 25:16in the show had was is Satan actually a real entity or is it
- 25:22just a metaphor? As the Church of Satan points
- 25:25out? What is your view about Satan?
- 25:27Satan can take on many forms, like I acknowledge like some
- 25:33people. Like Satians they say Satan is
- 25:36said while Cathulians they say Cathulu was said.
- 25:41In my personal opinion, I can't see them as separate deities but
- 25:44they're in alliance together. But Satan could take on many
- 25:49forms like anthropomorphic form or like dark spirit form or
- 25:53energy form like Anton, Zander, Levay and even Lagorff didn't
- 25:56even mentioned. But how I kind of see Satan is
- 25:59he's a human with the wings and the horn but not have a goat
- 26:04face or hooves unlike other people see him.
- 26:08Do you believe that? I I personally think people use
- 26:12that imagery because they're using it from some old lore of
- 26:17the old deity called Pan. Are you familiar with that?
- 26:20Yes, he is one of the infernal names in during the some rituals
- 26:25like the High Mass, the Black Mass, it's in the Black Grimoire
- 26:28along with the Red Grim or even the The Seat Tank Testament 4th
- 26:33edition. As you probably realize, and I
- 26:36know a lot of religious folks out there who are listening know
- 26:39this. Wait a second.
- 26:43I'm sorry I got that bad cold. Satan isn't referred to as some
- 26:49kind of, like, ugly monster. Biblically, he's considered as a
- 26:53beautiful Angel of light who was the right hand closest to God.
- 26:58Do you also believe that God is real?
- 27:01You just don't agree with his his viewpoints on how to run the
- 27:05universe. Yes, I do see like that.
- 27:08I don't. I don't mention his name, but
- 27:11I'm not one of those people say, you know, oh, I believe it's
- 27:15Satan, but I don't believe in God.
- 27:16It's like, how can you do that? Like you had to acknowledge God
- 27:20existence because or else like you're just one of those
- 27:24Gilmorian Satanists then? Now this is one thing I haven't
- 27:29been able to fully get into a discussion with the other guys
- 27:33with. I'm sure they're more than open
- 27:35to talk about this, but do you believe that Satan was created
- 27:39by God like the Bible says, or was Satan always there as well?
- 27:45That is a really hard topic. It really depends on some
- 27:49people's perspective, but in my opinion I feel like he was there
- 27:53before God's existence though. But it's pretty debatable if you
- 27:59know what I'm talking about, because it's some people have
- 28:01very different perspective. Now I I can understand that
- 28:08Satanists do have some issue with the behavior and attitude
- 28:11of some Christians, but I'm also curious, how do you feel
- 28:15whenever you see or hear atheists and social media saying
- 28:20that Satan is a fictional character along with God being
- 28:24that you do actually believe they both exist?
- 28:29They don't really bother me, honestly.
- 28:31Like, that's their opinion. As long as they're not like
- 28:34going at me, like personally attacking me, like, that's fine.
- 28:38Like it. Like, I don't care if you don't
- 28:40believe in the ancient gods or gods, Satan, the other demons,
- 28:46or even Cthulhu mythos, that's fine by me.
- 28:49As long as you don't attack me. We're good.
- 28:54By the way, if you're curious why you're not on the screen.
- 28:58Sorry, sorry. I usually like to kind of cover
- 29:01myself, just in case the TST or the Church of Satan found finds
- 29:05out. Do you want me?
- 29:08Do you want me to put you up on the screen alongside me?
- 29:11Sure, why not? OK, all right.
- 29:15Hey, cool hair. My brother's got real long hair.
- 29:18He's a heavy metal band. I used to have long hair, but my
- 29:22hair's too thick and it just burns me up in the summer.
- 29:26How does it work for you? I live, let's say, a very cold
- 29:31state, let's just say. Now, I've seen that a lot of
- 29:35Satanists have 666 in their name.
- 29:38What does that represent for you?
- 29:42It represents like the man of what it means to you because it
- 29:47does mean that something like personally to you because if you
- 29:49look at the trap, bath or even the order of the trapezoid, it
- 29:53also has 666 on there as well and did even mention it doesn't
- 29:58even mention that in the Satanic Testament.
- 30:03All right, yeah, I've I've seen the the number usually used in
- 30:08some kind of negative light on some religious films I've seen,
- 30:11but I haven't really designated why that would be considered
- 30:15bad. Besides, it's somehow symbolized
- 30:17as a devil in some way. Yeah, like a lot of media will
- 30:23always have like a lot of stereotypes.
- 30:25Like, you know, human sacrifice, even though that's been a thing
- 30:28for like a thousands years, including like the Aztec culture
- 30:33and don't forget like a lot of that stuff.
- 30:35And now during the Satanic panic.
- 30:36That's like maybe even more popular during the Satanic Panic
- 30:40during the 80s and the 90s, where they label heavy metal as
- 30:43Satanic or even Dungeons and Dragons as Satanic because of
- 30:48the conspiracy theories that the fundamental Christians have made
- 30:52to the FBI. I know you're a younger man, so
- 30:56you probably don't go back as far as this, but Buddy Holly,
- 31:00the guy who sung La Bamba, Elvis Presley, they were all
- 31:03considered satanic because of their music and dance, so it's
- 31:08been that way for a long. Time.
- 31:10Oh yeah, Oh yeah, I studied those.
- 31:12The Oh yeah. It's because during the time it
- 31:15was the cause, a lot of them claimed to like both rock'n'roll
- 31:19as a way for race mixing. So it's a kind of a way to
- 31:22separate, you know, different races.
- 31:24Cause back in the day, you know, the Jim Crow era and the Black
- 31:28Code era. So that was kind of used as a
- 31:31way to basically separate people.
- 31:33And I just kind of find it pretty absurd.
- 31:34I'm like, what does this have to do with satanic?
- 31:38That's more like you're promoting what the KKK and the
- 31:40Neo Nazis are promoting. You know, when I was a young kid
- 31:44and I was going to church, they gave a list of bands I should
- 31:48never listen to. They said they were just the
- 31:50most evil thing possible. One of them was Alice Cooper and
- 31:53the other one was Ozzy Osbourne. Well, guess what?
- 31:56I went and done. You listening to?
- 31:59Them. Oh yeah.
- 32:00Ozzy Osbourne is still one of my favorite musicians, and Alice
- 32:04Cooper and I like to play clips on my radio where both of them
- 32:08actually talk about their belief in God.
- 32:10They, and they're actually theists and the Christians don't
- 32:13know that. Yeah, like that was the thing
- 32:18with the Satanic Panic. It's because the one, the
- 32:21lyrical content with the Black Sabbath self-titled album, like
- 32:25some of the track mentioned, you know, Satan, but they they took
- 32:28it like very literally. And Alice Cooper is with the
- 32:31blood and the makeup, it's like for shock value.
- 32:34Then you have like other bands like Venom who literally you
- 32:38know did that and it was swear possessed.
- 32:40Even Bathory got involved with it, along with Hell Hammer and
- 32:43Celtic Frost during the first white black medal and even the
- 32:46death metal scene during the 80s.
- 32:50So I have to ask, since we're talking about musicians who were
- 32:54very impressionable and like to do a lot of shock value.
- 32:58There was Marilyn Manson. He was a part of the Satanic
- 33:01Church for a while, wasn't he? Yeah.
- 33:05But in the interview like he literally, it's kind of a really
- 33:09take a grain of salt because yeah, like he was friends with
- 33:12Anton Zander Levay but also I'm not really big Marilyn Manson
- 33:15fan. I just don't find his music that
- 33:17good in my opinion. And it's kind of it's it's
- 33:20pretty hard and now, since Marilyn Manson's now doing the
- 33:23opposite now what he's doing now than he was doing back of the
- 33:26day. Yeah, he's declaring himself as
- 33:30a Christian, which is kind of strange.
- 33:32Nobody would have expected that, I suppose.
- 33:35What about bands like Korn? Did that surprise you?
- 33:39Well, yeah, Corn, they talk about a lot of stuff like, you
- 33:41know, drug abuse, all that stuff.
- 33:43But I'm not really being into new metal.
- 33:44I'm like more into the black metal.
- 33:46Like during the Norwegian black metal scene, especially with the
- 33:50Pacific person called Varg Vicaris, he formed the band that
- 33:53was called Burzum and he's well known for his causing 3 church
- 33:57burnings in Norway and also stabbed Euronymous, the
- 34:01guitarist and founder of Mayhem. And that caused Varvicaris to
- 34:05get arrested back in 93. And of course then that because
- 34:10the Norwegian black metal scene was very like one of the most
- 34:12controversial scenes along with the band Deacide with Glenn
- 34:16Burton being the bass player, promoting you know, Satanism,
- 34:20all that stuff. And you have like more of an
- 34:22Angel than another very well known band, Satanic band as
- 34:25well. Then you have like Destroyer
- 34:28666, an Australian band. They even got deported from
- 34:31Australia because the lyrical content they're talking about.
- 34:35I think that you and I, we share a lot of taste and the same kind
- 34:39of music. I usually if I'm going to listen
- 34:41to a metal band, I like it if I can actually understand what
- 34:45they're saying, and Dio was one of those.
- 34:48Oh, Dio's. Dio's the best.
- 34:50I love Dio. Dio is like.
- 34:52What's some of your favorite songs by him?
- 34:55Mostly Holy Diver die young is another good one, for when he
- 34:59was in Black Sabbath along with holy diver is a good one too.
- 35:03Heaven and Hell is a good one. Some good stuff.
- 35:10Unfortunately you forgot to mention Rainbow in the Dark.
- 35:13I think that's a great song. You know, fun fact about that,
- 35:17actually, Ryan James Dio hated that song.
- 35:19It's because the keyboard sounds too poppy and he even didn't
- 35:22want to put in the soundtrack. But I think it was one of the
- 35:25band members or the recordings. The guy the the recording guy
- 35:29convinced him to keep it in there.
- 35:32There's a movie that was done a while back, Kick a Poo or
- 35:36something like that song. Have you heard it?
- 35:39No, not. I'm not familiar with that.
- 35:42Let me see, It's got Jack Black and.
- 35:45Oh yeah. Have you seen the meatloaf and
- 35:48the Dio come out of the poster video?
- 35:50Yep. Probably so, Yep.
- 35:53That was pretty amazing. I watched this behind the scenes
- 35:56thing where they told Dio what they wanted in the saying, he
- 35:59said. All right, he hooked up his own
- 36:02microphone, they played it and he instantly sung it.
- 36:05And 1 Take and no practice, no nothing.
- 36:09Amazing singer. Oh yeah, Dio.
- 36:12He has a lot of like vocal, like dude, like he's been doing bands
- 36:16since when he was part of his first band Elf, then he moved to
- 36:19Rainbow, then Black Sabbath after after Tony fired Ozzy
- 36:25because of his, you know, drug habit.
- 36:27Then he formed a solo band Dio, until he passed 2010.
- 36:31And another band I also like to listen to sometimes is Type O
- 36:34Negative, Really influential gothic metal band during the
- 36:3790s, but Peter Steele's first band was actually Carnivore as a
- 36:40crossover thrash band he formed back in the 80s.
- 36:45I'm kind of envious of Ozzy Osbourne.
- 36:47He's taking more drugs and two pharmacies put together, but I
- 36:51bet he's going to outlive me. Isn't that something?
- 36:55Yeah, because here's the thing, like how he survived.
- 36:58He has a bit of a Neanderthal DNA.
- 37:00That's how he kept him alive. And there's this one person I've
- 37:03been looking up on YouTube for a while, a very well known Lowell
- 37:07County King Cobra JFS. Like he is a really big Aussie
- 37:11fan, but he's well known for is getting drunk on stream doing
- 37:15drink combos and really disgusting like food like hacks.
- 37:20He does and he claims to have black magic and even makes wand
- 37:24and sells them on Etsy and it's like come on bro.
- 37:27And he doesn't even brush his teeth and he's trying to promote
- 37:29tactical soap. What's your thoughts on black
- 37:33magic? Some of the folks I've talked
- 37:35to, they they do believe in the ability to do that.
- 37:38What's your What's your take? Black magic is something you
- 37:42have to be very careful, like you have to do very thorough
- 37:46reading. Because if you're not, because
- 37:48if you decide to do black magic, or like any other magic in
- 37:52general and without knowing what you're doing, it will backfire.
- 37:55Just like what Kane said, Like it's all about knowing what
- 37:59you're reading and have a good experience with magic.
- 38:02It's something you got to be very careful.
- 38:07Yeah, they all, they all seem like they were against the idea
- 38:10of white magic. For you, what is the difference
- 38:13between white magic? Even Anton Lebay, He said.
- 38:16I'm not one of these white magic type of people doing all the
- 38:20positive magic. I do black magic.
- 38:23What's the difference between the two?
- 38:25Like the white magic, like a lot of them seem, it's more aligned
- 38:29with the right hand path. Like especially in Wicca.
- 38:32Well, black magic is more aligned with the left hand path,
- 38:36but in my opinion I just refer black magic because it just kind
- 38:39of fits with my personality though.
- 38:41But it's understandable because like, it's kind of Yang Yang
- 38:45effect right there. So when you say, I hope that you
- 38:54can bear with me, When you say left path, right path, what
- 38:57exactly does that mean? But the right hand path is more
- 39:01like what you follow. It's more common like in
- 39:03Christianity, Wicca, Judaism and Islam.
- 39:07Well, like the left hand path is more common with like Satanism,
- 39:10Luciferianism, Demonology, Cathulianism, Sedanism, even
- 39:16Paganism like the old tradition paganism, not the neo paganism
- 39:20like Gerald Gardner have said. So as you probably heard, listen
- 39:28and then and all that, we also talked about, obviously there's
- 39:33many different Christian denominations that have their
- 39:35own concept of hell. How do you view hell?
- 39:39What is hell to you? Hell is something.
- 39:42It could be anything. How I can?
- 39:44I see it's kind of similar to Lucifer Lake Gorben's
- 39:47perspective with the City of Disk.
- 39:50So I have a more common line with Lucifer Lake Gorben's
- 39:53perspective of Hell. Do you believe people go into
- 39:58like a oblivion state where they suffer from their own conscious
- 40:02torment or guilt? So if a person doesn't have a
- 40:07lot of guilt instead of living with torment and come almost
- 40:11seem like a version of heaven for them.
- 40:14Yes, exactly. That's how we kind of see hell.
- 40:16It's kind of like our version of heaven.
- 40:18Well, like people who like attacked us, they'll go to the
- 40:24the dark pits of Tartarus where they will be basically tortured
- 40:28forever and more like an isolation basically, you know,
- 40:32tortured mentally. So the people who haven't done
- 40:38an attack, but they end up in that tortured state where their
- 40:42own consciousness is attacking them.
- 40:44Is there some kind of guardian or demon or something that
- 40:48actually helps them? Kind of therapeutic to get them
- 40:52out of that. I remember in one of the chapter
- 40:57like it, there's a literally like the part like you have to
- 40:59like dance and like dance into like so kind of like a lava
- 41:03field in the Satanic Testament. I remember and it's basically if
- 41:08you did enough of it, you can actually get out of it and like
- 41:11there's like a guard there. I remember it's been a while
- 41:14since I've read the Satanic Testament, but I do remember
- 41:16that mentioned in there. Do you feel like if you go to
- 41:22this place that you'll be one of the people who will be tormented
- 41:25over any kind of guilt? Or do you think you'll be fine
- 41:28right off the bat? There's probably a lot of stuff
- 41:32I still trying to acknowledge, like even though I saw something
- 41:38I will try to figure out so because even though it might be
- 41:41tortured, but at least I can handle it and once I do solve my
- 41:45problem, I'm willing to basically go to the city at disk
- 41:48when I die. Well, so far we've been talking
- 41:52for about 41 minutes and you seem like a pretty decent nice
- 41:56fellow to me. What could possibly be any
- 41:59reason to have you be tormented for?
- 42:03Yeah, there's a lot of like mental health problem, like I've
- 42:05done like a lot of decisions I've made.
- 42:09But I do acknowledge what I've done and understand, have to
- 42:13just learn from the past like because I have gone through like
- 42:17a lot of shit in my life. Though I'm not going to give out
- 42:19any personal detail because if this is public, because I don't
- 42:21want to be like Chris Chan who gives out his personal
- 42:24information online or like Cyrax.
- 42:29But it sounds like you've accepted responsibility for the
- 42:32things you've done. Why should you feel guilty if
- 42:35you have basically said, hey, this is who I am, this is what I
- 42:39was, and you made the proper changes, Why should you be
- 42:42tormented at all? It's more like a test, like a
- 42:46lady. Depends.
- 42:47Because there's sometimes you might forget, you know, what you
- 42:50have done until they kind of give you like, a little
- 42:52reminder. It's like, oh, all right, all
- 42:55right. I will acknowledge what I did.
- 42:57We'll take that phone for that. Because sometimes you might
- 42:59forget what you have done. You know, like something
- 43:01happened like years ago and you might not know what you have
- 43:04done years ago. And sometimes there's, like,
- 43:07reputations, like something you did way back in the day, and all
- 43:11of a sudden it will resurface what happened.
- 43:13And that's when you're like, Yep, I'm not going to hide that
- 43:16anymore. I will explain what I've done.
- 43:18I'm not going to say I'm sorry, but I'll explain why I did it.
- 43:23If it's if I ask you any questions or too personal or you
- 43:27don't want to answer, just say pass and I'll go to a different
- 43:30question. How are you treated in society
- 43:33when you're not on social media, if you don't mind me asking and.
- 43:38Most of the time it's depends on the location.
- 43:40Like I live where like the Midwest, like a lot of like
- 43:44Midwesterners include myself. We have kind of like this nice
- 43:47guy persona. Well, yeah, there are some
- 43:50people will go after me because if I wear like the style of bath
- 43:53met or the trap bath, but most of the time they are treating me
- 43:56very good. But sometimes some people will
- 43:59do have really poor judgment. But it's like, well, that's on
- 44:03you. I'm not going to force you to
- 44:04change what I am. If you want to see me evil, go
- 44:07ahead. That's not, that's your
- 44:08decision. It's not my call to tell you
- 44:10what the hell you should think and not to think.
- 44:14So your mood basically changes with the temperature of the
- 44:17room. All right, I understand that.
- 44:21I'm kind of like that, too. If people are nice to me, I'm
- 44:24nice back. They get nasty.
- 44:26I'm not really. One thing I've always been
- 44:28terrible at with Christianity is the whole love your enemy and do
- 44:32one to others if they're bashing the hell out of me.
- 44:37Oh yeah. It's like the the one that's
- 44:40nine satanic statements is take responsibility.
- 44:44It's Satan represents responsibility to the
- 44:46responsible instead of concern for the psychic vampires.
- 44:51So I've heard of that being mentioned quite a few times,
- 44:55especially on Twitter. Tell me about the psychic
- 44:58vampires. Are these real entities, or is
- 45:00this a metaphor for people draining you?
- 45:04It's more like a metaphor to like draining because there's a
- 45:08lot of people are willing to drain your energy, especially
- 45:10like like very narcissistic people.
- 45:12Like if you're in a relationship with like a very narcissist,
- 45:16they will like drain you. Like that will make them a
- 45:19psychic vampire. Or people with like a very big
- 45:22ego. Like, you know, like very far
- 45:25leftist woke people. Like, they're the most psychic
- 45:28vampire, especially the modern day Church of Satan and the
- 45:32Satanic Temple. Like they're like one of the
- 45:34biggest psychic vampires in history.
- 45:37And they'll go after anyone that basically doesn't agree with
- 45:40their like, political statement or their religious belief.
- 45:44Because I kind of find that pretty odd.
- 45:45And it's like you should learn to take responsibility, not go
- 45:48around, act like a goddamn crybaby and start screaming in
- 45:52the microphone because all of a sudden it's over.
- 45:56A simple fact. It seems like these type of
- 46:00folks deliberately go out and try to incite trouble.
- 46:04It's like they're just waiting for somebody to do something
- 46:07that they can yell about. Yep, that makes them a psychic
- 46:11vampire because they rely on other people's reactions so that
- 46:15way they can get basically fame. Just like woke house, for
- 46:18example. Like you have Chris Chan, who's
- 46:21been the most documented person on the Internet.
- 46:23There's like an entire documentary about this guy.
- 46:26Like his whole focus on his game.
- 46:28Well known for his copyright, his creation.
- 46:31But it's just two copyright characters called Sonic Chew
- 46:34just to you know get fame and you have Cyrax who tries to be
- 46:38like the next rapper. But he won.
- 46:41He's a drop out second he essays someone, a blind kid and 3rd
- 46:47he's a pedophile just like his father and a grand and his
- 46:50grandfather and 4th is he always goes on.
- 46:53Marty's stream started threatening him thinking he's a
- 46:56tough guy but he's a coward. Yeah, a lot of people are on the
- 47:01Internet like that. I call him keyboard commandos.
- 47:06Yeah, yeah, that's just basically psychic vampires.
- 47:08That's what they really are. They just like to feed on your
- 47:11energy just to waste your time. The way you describe it, I think
- 47:15that I could officially say I probably ran into quite a few of
- 47:19these types, like vampires. Oh yeah, I heard like what the
- 47:26Church of state is doing to the organizer, not organization I'm
- 47:29part of, and what he's done to Lucifer Lake Gorfton.
- 47:33And here's the scary part. I actually did encounter ATST
- 47:36member, she's a Amazon driver. When I was getting my package
- 47:40when I noticed the necklace. I'm like, wait a minute, that
- 47:42looks suspicious and I researched.
- 47:44It is actually in avert across with the Satanic Temple logo on
- 47:48it. You know, a few years back when
- 47:52I was doing my shows, I actually had a couple Church of Satan
- 47:55people and from the also Satanic network and they acted really
- 48:01cool, but it was before they ended up getting that new guy
- 48:04in. What's his name?
- 48:06It's the guy with the I forget his name, but he has like a eye
- 48:09problem. Oh, jeez.
- 48:14Yeah, there's a lot of people like you have.
- 48:16Like, yeah, that's Lucian Greaves.
- 48:20That's the founder of the Satanic Temple.
- 48:24Yeah, I was watching some interviews of him recently.
- 48:28It doesn't really make sense to me why an atheist or atheist
- 48:32would want to hijack Satanism and then try to teach that
- 48:36Satanism doesn't even represent Satan.
- 48:39It's it's kind of odd. Why would they do that?
- 48:42They could just simply call themselves atheist and leave
- 48:45Satanism to the people who actually believe in it.
- 48:48Seems to be more logical, right? It should be, but it's because
- 48:53of their ego 'cause they just trying to use Satan as a way, as
- 48:57a political tool for their own agenda.
- 49:00Like just look look at that the the Blach barn letter.
- 49:03It's basically exactly what's going on.
- 49:05In fact, I believe she predicted not only what Church of Satan
- 49:09has become, but I also feel like she basically predicted of the
- 49:13Satanic Temple, you know, basically being formed and like
- 49:16they're doing exactly the same thing and I just find it stupid.
- 49:20And at the time I used to, like I did thought of joining them,
- 49:23but luckily I didn't. But luckily, I am also a better
- 49:26member of an organization I'm part of right now.
- 49:30It's it's also odd because I've been reading a lot of Anton's
- 49:35content lately just to get more of an understanding of where he
- 49:39was coming from, and I find more and more he shares a lot of
- 49:43views that I do like, especially when it comes to abortion.
- 49:46He was totally against it. He thought that it was
- 49:49animalistic to in a negative way to do that to your own
- 49:53offspring. But of course he was a father,
- 49:56had children, all that. What's your views on that?
- 50:00I'm I'm very Gray on it. I'm neither pro-life or
- 50:06pro-choice. I kind of see it as a last
- 50:08resort when it needs to be done, but one thing I do don't don't
- 50:12agree is using it as a birth control because now you're
- 50:16killing the baby but you're also running away from
- 50:18responsibility. Now let's say if a woman got R
- 50:21worded, yeah that has to happen because like the guy will one
- 50:28that was not consensual and 2nd that guy is messed up and 3rd
- 50:34like that's that. Third Nope, kid wants to be
- 50:37associated with someone like that and it was a woman has a
- 50:40miscarriage. Yeah that has to happen too
- 50:43because because you don't know what the body can do, especially
- 50:46with like blood type like immune system.
- 50:48But at the same time, we do need regulations, especially using as
- 50:52birth control. And stop saying that, you know,
- 50:55Stop calling you like mother's birth feeders or something like
- 50:59that. Or saying, you know, oh, a fetus
- 51:01is like a parasitical relationship, which is not.
- 51:06Well, to say something like that, wouldn't that also be
- 51:09asserting the idea that we are, as humans, parasites?
- 51:16It can sometimes. It really depends on the people.
- 51:19Like some people, like you know, people who think that you know
- 51:23they revolve around them. You know, like this.
- 51:25You know, superior complex. They are pretty much a parasite
- 51:29with a superior complex. I hear you there.
- 51:33I hear you there. I just find it really odd.
- 51:36The reason why I also brought that up was I've been noticing
- 51:39that the Church of Satan is really, really promoting
- 51:43abortion, and they're trying to call it health care affirmation.
- 51:48It's odd because that's so totally opposite of what Anton
- 51:52actually taught, which you probably realize.
- 51:55I feel like that has influence from the The Satanic Temple with
- 52:00their abortion ritual. And it's like that's not a
- 52:04ritual. That's literally the polar
- 52:06opposite of a ritual, you idiot. Well then you just say call it
- 52:11human sacrifice then. That's Ralph.
- 52:17So if you were to get a woman pregnant and stuff and you
- 52:22didn't actually try or something, something went wrong.
- 52:25Condom broke. You're saying that you would be
- 52:28responsible. You'd be there.
- 52:31Of course I'll be there. I will be a father.
- 52:33I'm not just going to go and get the milk and not return like
- 52:37that's a douche bag. Because a kid, no matter if you
- 52:40ever have a son or a daughter, they need a father to protect
- 52:44and provide. I can't just, you know, leave,
- 52:47leave my woman there. I will definitely be there for
- 52:49the kid. I want to make sure my kid stays
- 52:51alive. You sound like you got good old
- 52:53fashioned morals and a good heart.
- 52:57Oh yeah, I do take some old traditional value, but at the
- 53:01same time I also follow the Lex Sectinos.
- 53:04But yes, I do follow more the old school tradition ways
- 53:07because even though I'm 20, I've I'm old soul and a Gen.
- 53:10Z body. So since you've been then the
- 53:15Satanism for a while, does it seem different for a Satanist
- 53:20parent to be able to bring a kid up in a world like this?
- 53:24It is like it is because there is a chapter in the Satanic
- 53:28Testament called The Satanic Parent and it actually says
- 53:32like, don't indoctrinate your kid.
- 53:34And that's the thing. I'm I'm just like Kane
- 53:37Blackfair. Like, I'm against indoctrinating
- 53:39kids into, like, Christianity, but I'm also against
- 53:41indoctrinating kids into politics.
- 53:43Because if you see a lot of like these kids TV shows nowadays,
- 53:46like Blue's Clue, they really put a drag show in there.
- 53:50Like a lot of these kids shows like I'm seeing right now,
- 53:53they're indoctrinating these woke ideologies into kids for
- 53:57basically for queer shit. Yeah, yeah, it's it's unusual.
- 54:05A couple of years ago it was it was wrong to try to indoctrinate
- 54:10children. People thought it was bad all
- 54:12the way around. And of course they would point
- 54:14at religion, say, ah, you know, no kind of religion should be
- 54:18taught to a child, but for some reason it's OK to teach your
- 54:21child how to gratify an adult in school.
- 54:25Now that's really odd, isn't it? It is like this is the problem
- 54:30with a double standard. So you're saying that you know
- 54:34oh you're a doctor Nick kid into Christianity.
- 54:36You're a bad parent. Well at the same time you're
- 54:39saying you know oh oh I'm oh I'm Oh my kid is trans and shit or
- 54:44non binary. I'm like you're you're basically
- 54:48contradicting on what not to do. If you don't want your kid to be
- 54:52indoctrinated, don't indoctrinate your kids into
- 54:54anything, no matter if it's religion or politics.
- 54:57Keep that out of the child's mind.
- 54:59Let them grow and let them mature for them to make the
- 55:03decision what they want. When my when my children were
- 55:09born, although I believed in the concept of God, I did not want
- 55:13to. I didn't want to have all kinds
- 55:16of thoughts and ideas thrown into their head.
- 55:19I always had this philosophy teach a child how to think for
- 55:23themselves, not how to think, and that's always been my view.
- 55:27But I do think it's important for us to at least teach our
- 55:30children about things that we really believe are issues that
- 55:36could hurt them in society. Yeah, like, in fact like kids
- 55:41should. Like we should teach kids is
- 55:44like everyone has different perspective, but you are your
- 55:47own human. What you should learn is
- 55:50question like not just people, but society as a whole.
- 55:54If the society is willing to basically be conformist heard.
- 55:59I don't want my kid to be you know, I want my kid to be a wolf
- 56:02and make his or hers decision on how they want to perceive in
- 56:07life without outside forces. Trying to basically convert my
- 56:12son or daughter into like religion or politics is I want
- 56:17them to decide. Don't you feel like the Church
- 56:22of Satan is muddying up the water for children though?
- 56:25If children go to their website and I looked at it, they even
- 56:29have pages that are dedicated to young people that state that the
- 56:33devil is not real and it's just a yadda yadda yadda, basically a
- 56:38fiction and all this. Now if these kids grow up and
- 56:41they end up meeting Someone Like You or Mr. Gordon, it's going to
- 56:44be very confusing for them. A lot of stuff, a lot of dirt
- 56:47you have to go through in order to get through to them were what
- 56:51you believe it. Is a lot because like literally
- 56:55what they're doing is they're teaching kids about atheism.
- 56:59But then when they meet like me or came Blackfyre or Lucifer
- 57:04Lake Gorfton or like the other Grotto masters, like, it's going
- 57:08to be hard to try to get to her head.
- 57:10But I said that's the thing they're not teaching you is
- 57:13because what they're doing is they're rewriting what Anton
- 57:16Levay has started. And that's the thing that really
- 57:18pisses me off, is how the Church of Satan is destroyed by not
- 57:23just Peter H Gilmore, but the other atheists in that.
- 57:27In the Church of Satan, you know, basically destroy what
- 57:31Anton Levay, that's why Carla left it from the First Satanic
- 57:34Church, is because of that. So does it?
- 57:40Does it ever feel ironic to you that it seems as though
- 57:43Christianity's more in line with your view than it is actual
- 57:47atheist? Because at least Christians will
- 57:50accept that yeah, there is a devil.
- 57:53Yeah, there is something out there.
- 57:54We do even believe in a concept of hell.
- 57:57So it seems as though it'd be easier to talk to somebody like
- 58:00that than it would be someone who's throwing it out the window
- 58:04and calling it a fairy tale. Yeah, it makes more sense.
- 58:07Like anyone that follows like a theistic path, like monotheism
- 58:12or even polytheism, they're more easy to talk to than compared to
- 58:16an atheist. And now, like, I have, like, I
- 58:19do have some family members who are atheist, but they're not
- 58:22like that. Like they're actually more
- 58:24respectable for my beliefs. But at the same time, it's your
- 58:29there's like more people 'cause I used to go on TikTok, and
- 58:31there's plenty of these atheistic Satanists going around
- 58:35promoting the agenda. I'm like you guys never even
- 58:38read a book in your life. I've been around on social media
- 58:43for about 20 years, off and on, and I've noticed that in the
- 58:47beginning, atheists were a lot more respectful.
- 58:49They were a lot more decent. I noticed that their personality
- 58:53started changing for attention once money was offered and
- 58:57rewards to monetization. Suddenly they started getting
- 59:01wild and aggressive. What is your theory on that?
- 59:05Do you think it was that or could have been other things?
- 59:09It's possibly it's because of greed is because they just want
- 59:12to show them that they're always right.
- 59:14They try and sound like like every single like commentators
- 59:18on YouTube and stuff like that and they just they they just
- 59:22want the money. So they had to go like oh Yep, I
- 59:25got to be a complete total Dick right now.
- 59:27So I got to start talking shit on other people's you know,
- 59:30belief because I am the the smart at all.
- 59:33It's just like it's like there's another individual that I also
- 59:36looked up on is Shanny for Christ and she is oh boy.
- 59:41You want to talk about extreme, like most hypocrisy, If you got
- 59:45to watch summer videos, it's messed up.
- 59:48Oh, I've actually had her on the show before.
- 59:51She's what you're referred to as bipolar, manic depressive.
- 59:55You know what that is? Yes.
- 59:57Yes. It's a person who can one day
- 1:00:00act like a sweet, wonderful Angel that you just love hanging
- 1:00:03out with, and the next day she's well, I don't want to say the
- 1:00:06devil. Because obviously, you know,
- 1:00:09that's your thing. But yeah, she can be quite nasty
- 1:00:13whenever she's having a bad day for sure.
- 1:00:17Like she like, that's the problem.
- 1:00:19It's like she's like, not only she's very, like mentally ill,
- 1:00:23but she's also a really big narcissistic traits and all that
- 1:00:27she ever cares about is money, you know, and she abused, you
- 1:00:31know, revelation, Rev, obviously.
- 1:00:33Of course I don't know why people call him Rev even though
- 1:00:35he's not a reverend of a church. And another thing is the way she
- 1:00:39treats her son. I am.
- 1:00:41I was disgusted just how she would treat her son and and I
- 1:00:45know like one that satanic, the 11th Satanic statements do not
- 1:00:50harm children. Yeah, there were times in the
- 1:00:53past before we totally cut off where, you know, she does say,
- 1:00:57hey, I need some help with the my kids and all this.
- 1:01:01And she was with a different man at the time, but obviously
- 1:01:04according to her, he wasn't coming through for her.
- 1:01:07I sent money for diapers and and milk and all that kind of stuff.
- 1:01:12Anything I could do to help. But every it seemed like every
- 1:01:15single month she would have this bad moment, make a one hour
- 1:01:19video about what a terrible piece of trash I am, and then
- 1:01:22she'd come back to me the next week, apologize, and say, can I
- 1:01:26get some more help? So I can't imagine what it would
- 1:01:28be like for Revelation News actually living there and
- 1:01:31putting up with that 24/7. I would have probably hung
- 1:01:35myself in the coat closet at that point.
- 1:01:39Yeah, like there's this video where, like, she had to make a
- 1:01:43public, you know, apologies because he was talking to a
- 1:01:47hooker on Facebook and she he she forced him to shave his head
- 1:01:52and tell him to make a confession.
- 1:01:54And when he's reading, you know, the comment, she just fucking
- 1:01:58flipped out. And I'm just like, how in the
- 1:02:01fuck can you ever be around with a woman who was basically this
- 1:02:03narcissistic and a piece of shit at the same time while, and I'm
- 1:02:08glad the Child Protective Service and the stupid, the
- 1:02:11creepiest thing she she was born in the same state as I am right
- 1:02:16now. I I don't know how long you've
- 1:02:20watched or paid attention to Revelation News.
- 1:02:22I knew him before he met Shanny, and he used to be a quite
- 1:02:27articulate young man. Good conversations I had with
- 1:02:31him. Unfortunately his mother passed
- 1:02:34and when that happened, it broke him and he got deeply into
- 1:02:38alcohol and I think unfortunately he's probably got
- 1:02:42that that chemical imbalance now from drinking too much and
- 1:02:47unfortunately he ran into what you referred to as a psychic
- 1:02:50vampire. Yeah, I actually did.
- 1:02:54I I knew like how his mother died and and he did had a seven
- 1:02:59$750,000 heritage and guess what That went down the toilet with
- 1:03:04all the the shit they bought. If I was to give that
- 1:03:07inheritance inheritage I would definitely would not only go put
- 1:03:11in the stock market by putting the savings at the child, the
- 1:03:15certificate deposit etcetera, food bills etcetera.
- 1:03:18Not on PS5 and other bullshit I don't need.
- 1:03:22Yeah, it's pretty sad because his mother not only left him
- 1:03:26money, but she left him a completely paid off home.
- 1:03:29He could have just stayed in that place, a beautiful home
- 1:03:33already paid off and just put that money away like you said
- 1:03:37and he'd be doing great. He'd be doing fantastic.
- 1:03:39She literally took him at a vulnerable point in his life and
- 1:03:44just left him for dad, basically.
- 1:03:46Sad it. Is sad.
- 1:03:48It's just, I just find this so pathetic and I know how much
- 1:03:53Shanny, like went through so many husband.
- 1:03:55And I'm just like like how many times are you keep doing this to
- 1:03:59yourself and all you're doing is you're just going down the
- 1:04:03fucking toilet. And there's so many videos
- 1:04:05including Kiwi tapes and Smokey MCC made so many videos on her.
- 1:04:11Like a lot of videos on her and and I used to be part of Kiwi
- 1:04:16Tapes and Smokey MC CS channel members for like a year.
- 1:04:23It's difficult to know how to deal with it from my theistic
- 1:04:27point of view because I've always been taught to try to
- 1:04:31have compassion and sympathy for those who were, you know, who
- 1:04:35have mental issues or have these kind of things.
- 1:04:37I really do believe one day she'll end up in one of those
- 1:04:40residential homes where, you know, they're going to require
- 1:04:43nurses, therapy and medication and all that.
- 1:04:46But I don't know if it's Even though she's annoyed me, I don't
- 1:04:50know if I'd want to spend like countless time giving her all
- 1:04:55kinds of hell, even though I can understand why people believe
- 1:04:58she deserves that. Does that make sense?
- 1:05:01Oh yeah, I totally get you. Like, that's the thing.
- 1:05:04And like another rule is like is like in my perspective is don't
- 1:05:10go around people who are basically allowing their mental
- 1:05:13health control because like I'm mentally ill I I suffer from
- 1:05:17depression, anxiety, major depressive disorder.
- 1:05:21I take medication for it. I actually did went to the
- 1:05:24hospital actually one time for making, you know, let's just say
- 1:05:27one of those threats that Shani did actually did done on the
- 1:05:31Internet that you see. So I'm I'm not trying to make
- 1:05:36you feel guilty or anything, or make you feel bad.
- 1:05:38But let's say that you had a really bad depressive episode
- 1:05:42and you made a video where you made a damn fool of yourself for
- 1:05:46about 15 minutes, but then you fixed it.
- 1:05:49You got on the right medication A week later and things changed,
- 1:05:53but the Internet won't let you forget.
- 1:05:55Do you think that would be fair or right to do?
- 1:05:57It's. A learning tool, like, like the
- 1:06:01shit, like you say, 'cause there's a lot of like clips are
- 1:06:04unforgivable, like so many videos on Chris Chan, Like
- 1:06:07there's so many moments that are very unforgivable.
- 1:06:10And just like last year, what he did to his mom and Cyrax, oh
- 1:06:15boy, he said. So many slurs out loud, and
- 1:06:20everyone always have archives and saying what the white
- 1:06:23Bowser, even Shanny has those moments too.
- 1:06:27It's like those stuff are always will be archived with me I'm
- 1:06:31like yeah I made it fool out myself but I'm not like any.
- 1:06:35I'm not the locales because I'm not going to try to defend
- 1:06:38myself. Especially like Tony the black
- 1:06:39Dragon who thinks you know he has the black dragon by speaking
- 1:06:44edorameic when he goes to his black dragon form and try try
- 1:06:48you know say hey I took the picture of like 13 year olds at
- 1:06:51the mall. I'm like, dude, that's not going
- 1:06:54to go away, dude, you took those pictures of minors there.
- 1:06:57And don't forget you had a file of CP that your deranged friend
- 1:07:01gave to you. If you don't mind me asking, you
- 1:07:05said that you have some depression and anxiety.
- 1:07:08What? What gets you anxious?
- 1:07:11A lot of things. I also do have Asperger's
- 1:07:14syndrome. That's like another key factor
- 1:07:16too. But it's mostly like the stuff
- 1:07:18that happened to me last year, like, you know this.
- 1:07:22Like, you know, let's just say, you know, like how kind of
- 1:07:25shanty trader boys, basically. And it was a little mental take
- 1:07:30and oh boy, sometimes I have a hard time, you know, expressing
- 1:07:33my emotions and talking about it.
- 1:07:37You seem like you've done quite well expressing yourself with
- 1:07:40me, and you're very articulate. It's because, like some people
- 1:07:45like I do have like trust issues.
- 1:07:47But since I start watching your video, I could definitely tell
- 1:07:49just how, like you're able to listen and actually seem like a
- 1:07:53really good father figure along with Lagorfin.
- 1:07:55And I also kind of see Lagorfin kind of like a father figure as
- 1:07:58well, because since he is a dad himself.
- 1:08:02That's understandable. So what do you do in order to
- 1:08:05bring yourself out of the, how shall I say the the pits?
- 1:08:10When you're feeling rough and you're getting anxious, what do
- 1:08:14you use for yourself mentally to bring yourself out of it?
- 1:08:18Most of the time I just try to go through like a roller
- 1:08:20coaster, but I also like to sometimes read books, listen to
- 1:08:24music, and sometimes even play games.
- 1:08:26Will help you know get me through.
- 1:08:30Well, as you can see here on the screen, I put my phone number
- 1:08:34and my e-mail out there. If I'm not doing a show and
- 1:08:38you're not in it at that time, you can always call if you need
- 1:08:41somebody to talk to you, all right?
- 1:08:43Oh yeah, no proclaimo, man. Yeah, I always have.
- 1:08:48One of the reasons why I asked the question about what?
- 1:08:51How do you deal with it? Because I also have depression.
- 1:08:54And if people have good ideas or ways to be able to get out of it
- 1:08:58and not be dragged, like, you know, along the bottom of the
- 1:09:02water for too long, it's always great to hear good advice.
- 1:09:07Yeah like depression is like the biggest bitch.
- 1:09:10Like I'm saying it in a factual like it's the biggest bitch to
- 1:09:14fight. It's like the most pain in the
- 1:09:16ass. Like it hurts mentally even like
- 1:09:19when I take my medication sometimes.
- 1:09:22Like luckily my medication doesn't take me so far down like
- 1:09:25I was like last year last year. But oh hell boy, it just, yeah,
- 1:09:31it can fuck you over pretty bad if you're we're fighting it.
- 1:09:34But what I like to do sometimes I like to listen to, like,
- 1:09:37depressive, suicidal black metal.
- 1:09:39Like sometimes we're like sad music.
- 1:09:41It just helps me kind of like release my emotions better so
- 1:09:45that way I don't hide it further.
- 1:09:46And sometimes when I read books, it just kind of helps me
- 1:09:48concentrate. And sometimes I like to play
- 1:09:50solitaire too. And sometimes I like to play
- 1:09:52like Battlefield 5 or even like play GTA, San Andreas or even
- 1:09:57Halo to keep me focused. I want to tell you some kind of
- 1:10:02games that help me. I play a lot of Bethesda RPG
- 1:10:06games, Oblivion, Morrowind, that kind of stuff that gets me
- 1:10:10through a lot of things. That really distracts me from
- 1:10:14the asshole ishness of life sometimes.
- 1:10:17Mm hmm. Oh yeah.
- 1:10:18Life is a bitch. Life is 1.
- 1:10:24Like that's how life is like. You can't control how you know.
- 1:10:28You know. Nature flows.
- 1:10:32So remember, as I said earlier, if I ever ask any questions that
- 1:10:36you're just not prepared to go for, or you're just not
- 1:10:39interested to stay past what Have you ever, like, formally
- 1:10:46tried Christianity or the concept of God?
- 1:10:49Or has it always been mostly atheism or Satanism?
- 1:10:53I did kind of have that when I was like a very little kid.
- 1:10:57But at the time, like, I just really just start like it's it's
- 1:11:01kind of a really rough start. It's like I did kind of have
- 1:11:05that, but then it's just all of a sudden, like, I just like, I
- 1:11:10just kind of stray away. But then I start thinking of
- 1:11:12Satanism when I was like about 15 or 16 at the time.
- 1:11:15But it's not until during COVID when I really started getting
- 1:11:18into Satanism. Right.
- 1:11:22Was there some things that turned you off?
- 1:11:26It's one of my friend, like, he's like a very heavy, like
- 1:11:29fundamentalist Christian started like enforcing the Bible on me.
- 1:11:34That's when I started kind of realized just letting all the
- 1:11:37hypocrisy because at the time I was like very young, Like I'm
- 1:11:40still young, but at the time I was like very young and not
- 1:11:43experienced enough. So he was pushy, and you felt
- 1:11:49like he cared more about preaching at you than just being
- 1:11:52your friend? Yeah, That's how I kind of
- 1:11:55viewed, yes. Yeah, I've actually tried to
- 1:11:59instruct and advise other Christians that maybe they want
- 1:12:02to. If they're going to say that
- 1:12:04they care about people, maybe they should try being their
- 1:12:07friends and actually being involved in their life as
- 1:12:10opposed to throwing a bunch of shit at them and then
- 1:12:13disappearing out of their life. Probably doesn't make anybody
- 1:12:16feel like they're loved very much, does it?
- 1:12:19Oh no it doesn't like like that's like one of the satanic
- 1:12:23rules. I also know is don't give out
- 1:12:25advice unless you unless they are willing to listen to it.
- 1:12:30Right. Well, I'm always willing to hear
- 1:12:33some good advice, anything that can help improve my existence.
- 1:12:37Oh yeah, of course. Of course.
- 1:12:41I'm not going to say that to you.
- 1:12:42I'm just talking about like, the statement of the facts that you
- 1:12:46know, thanks to the Gordon's books I've been reading and I
- 1:12:49still can't wait to read his newer books.
- 1:12:53Yeah, he's he's. I looked at the book that he
- 1:12:57held up and my goodness, he does write a lot.
- 1:13:00I also write books myself, obviously not in the same genre,
- 1:13:04but my goodness, he is an avid writer for sure.
- 1:13:09That's a sick book he's got there.
- 1:13:11Oh yeah, I have two versions of it.
- 1:13:13I have the 3rd edition and the 4th edition of the State Tank
- 1:13:16Testament. I also have both the black and
- 1:13:19the red Grimoire and the Top Secret manual as well.
- 1:13:24A manual, if you wouldn't mind. Can you describe some of its,
- 1:13:29some of its stuff? It's material.
- 1:13:32I would just say on the outside it's a satanic priest taught
- 1:13:35Secret manual. It was actually a Church of
- 1:13:37Satan's manual, but it's like re it's RE Forward by Lucifer Leigh
- 1:13:43Gordon for the STS. Is it?
- 1:13:50Would you say it's different than a lot of the stuff you've
- 1:13:54read in that literature department?
- 1:13:56It is different like it just it's more like an instruction on
- 1:14:00like what you do once you do decide to become like when you
- 1:14:04do become like the one, the like part of the clergy of the
- 1:14:08priest. Or if you're the official cultic
- 1:14:10through the Viridian order of the Trevisodian.
- 1:14:13It just teaches you how to basically run a coven or a
- 1:14:16grotto. If you don't mind, I'd like to
- 1:14:21show you a clip or two and get your opinion on things all
- 1:14:25right. All right, no problem, man.
- 1:14:27Are you from the area of Texas like he is?
- 1:14:31No, I'm in. I'm in Minnesota.
- 1:14:35Well, you probably have heard about all these issues between
- 1:14:38Texas and. Yes, Yep.
- 1:14:41I've been hearing about the border control between how the
- 1:14:45the government has tried to tell Texas to basically, you know,
- 1:14:48get rid of the the border and Texas, like, fuck you, I ain't
- 1:14:52going to do shit. No, we're going to keep putting
- 1:14:54up the border. What if I told you that Texas,
- 1:14:58as well as the Democrats in the United States, might not be
- 1:15:02telling us the whole story? That this might actually just be
- 1:15:05a distraction from something else.
- 1:15:08It's possible, yeah. I'd probably like to have some
- 1:15:10more full detail. That's why I was going to show
- 1:15:12you the clip and then get your opinion on it.
- 1:15:15I think you'll have something fascinating say about this.
- 1:15:18Here you go. What half?
- 1:15:24A month. What's going on guys?
- 1:15:27I know y'all come to my page because of the comedy, and I
- 1:15:30just play around on here and I don't get political very often.
- 1:15:34Sometimes I have some things to say about things.
- 1:15:36I live in Texas. I was just an Eagle Pass and
- 1:15:40I've got some videos I need to show you guys because you're
- 1:15:43watching the news. Whether it's CNN or Fox, you're
- 1:15:46letting these news media idiots get you riled up against each
- 1:15:52other. Let me show you some videos that
- 1:15:55might just calm your ass. Down and make you turn off the
- 1:15:58TV. Watch this.
- 1:16:01All right. So this is the, the wall, you
- 1:16:05know, the fence that we put up and they put up a secondary
- 1:16:08fence because they open the gates.
- 1:16:10There's some armed guards with some pretty.
- 1:16:11Serious weaponry, you know. Pretty intimidating, right?
- 1:16:14Here's your razor wire in between.
- 1:16:18The two bridges that are in the entrances into Mexico and also
- 1:16:23the entrance to Eagle Pass, there's some Hummers, some more
- 1:16:26guys, right. We're protecting, you know,
- 1:16:29we're we're keeping them out. This is .5 miles from that area,
- 1:16:38.5 miles from where they set up their cameras, .5 miles from
- 1:16:43where they have all the people there, and it's right down the
- 1:16:47road. I left this long to show you
- 1:16:50just how short of a drive it is for us to get to a point where
- 1:16:58all that we just saw does not matter.
- 1:17:01And they're just getting you riled up against each other
- 1:17:03because it's election time. And right about here is where
- 1:17:07you're going to see it. What's that?
- 1:17:19Where are the armed guards? Where are the AR fifteens?
- 1:17:24Where? Where are, where is the razor
- 1:17:26wire? Where's the gates?
- 1:17:29That's half a mile from where the media is blowing up that
- 1:17:32Texas versus the feds that we're having this big battle.
- 1:17:37So that was one gate. That was the very first gate
- 1:17:39that I saw. We drove down a little bit more.
- 1:17:42There's one. It had a chain on it, so you
- 1:17:44keep driving down the road. You got Trump's wall doing its
- 1:17:50job. This one is never even had a
- 1:17:53gate. So to me, doesn't matter if
- 1:17:57you're Republican, Democrat, liberal, libertarian, it doesn't
- 1:18:02matter. What you are.
- 1:18:03And you're posting. About this Texas versus the feds
- 1:18:07and we could have a civil war. I'm telling you right now, if a
- 1:18:11civil war breaks out, it's not because there's something good
- 1:18:15to fight over. It's because it's election time.
- 1:18:18It is because the news media is. Corrupt.
- 1:18:21And you need to turn the. TV off.
- 1:18:23I don't care. I don't care what news media you
- 1:18:26watch. Just go down there and look at
- 1:18:28yourself. Go look the the things that they
- 1:18:32are saying that the feds. And.
- 1:18:35Texas are fighting about is a stretch that is not even a mile.
- 1:18:41How long is the border? They can just walk right over
- 1:18:44and those games keep. I've seen several videos where
- 1:18:48there's many openings on the wall ends.
- 1:18:51It's easy for people to get in here and no matter what there's
- 1:18:55they only make it look like it's all tough and hardcore in that
- 1:18:58one little area, just for the news sake.
- 1:19:01But the news isn't reporting that it's wide open everywhere
- 1:19:04else. What's your thoughts?
- 1:19:07That's like the best way for propaganda.
- 1:19:10It's like literally just like how the CCP is doing the same
- 1:19:13thing with other shit going on in China.
- 1:19:16Like they're literally doing the same tactic.
- 1:19:18Like it's just the whole news media.
- 1:19:20It's just right now. It's small about spreading
- 1:19:22propaganda for it doesn't matter if you're like left or right
- 1:19:27wing. But the lap you needs to
- 1:19:29understand is we can't live in a country with propaganda.
- 1:19:33We need to start living with the truth and the border that can't,
- 1:19:38that should not be acceptable because we, the border needs to
- 1:19:41be better than that. But Nope, it's thanks to, you
- 1:19:44know, the government doesn't matter both sides.
- 1:19:46Like, I feel like it's a complete joke.
- 1:19:48I basically make it a publicity stunt to Barbara is like, oh,
- 1:19:52we're going to war, motherfuckers.
- 1:19:53We're going to shoot some fucking Yankees down.
- 1:19:56I'm like, so by basically what what does that give you?
- 1:20:00Doesn't give you nothing. I think that I was looking at.
- 1:20:06I don't know if you ever pay attention to Elon Musk on
- 1:20:09Twitter to use Twitter. I don't really use Twitter that
- 1:20:13much. Elon Musk is pretty good about
- 1:20:16allowing free speech and what people want to say.
- 1:20:19But he showed us some stats recently that a lot of these
- 1:20:22news stations like CNN and everything else, they're dying.
- 1:20:26They can't use the same propaganda that they used to
- 1:20:29because now everybody on the planet's got their own phone and
- 1:20:32camcorder along with them, so they can easily verify if the
- 1:20:36news is lying now. So now that the news mainstream
- 1:20:40media doesn't have that power, they just simply go to Twitter
- 1:20:43to find out what is reality from their local tech center or
- 1:20:47somebody who actually lives in the area.
- 1:20:51Yeah, it's like, it's like, come on, people like Start learning
- 1:20:56to think, not following what the media say.
- 1:20:59That's why I don't really take the news seriously.
- 1:21:01It's because it's like, Nah, great, Here we go, 'cause I
- 1:21:06always like to exaggerate on everything, 'cause it's like,
- 1:21:08come on guys, get better with your shit.
- 1:21:11So what's your theory on why it is a suddenly, all of a sudden
- 1:21:16started caring about migrants and trying to get them all over
- 1:21:19here into our country? What do you think they're doing
- 1:21:22that for? What's your theory?
- 1:21:24I feel like the theory goes, it's more about exploitation of
- 1:21:29people coming here illegally. Like, I'm not trying to sound
- 1:21:33like, you know, oh, we don't need foreigners.
- 1:21:36I'm like, like there's a difference between thinking
- 1:21:40logically and just thinking, you know, like what every other vice
- 1:21:43supremacy like like we should allow people to come to our
- 1:21:46country legally with a passport and the green card that you
- 1:21:50can't just, you know, walk up at the country and having migrate
- 1:21:54workers. Like, like the truth is it's
- 1:21:56like come on. So you're giving more money to
- 1:21:58them like the language they could barely speak, but you have
- 1:22:01like a very influential English speakers.
- 1:22:04It's like basically what China is doing with the white, with
- 1:22:06the white people with the white monkey.
- 1:22:09They speak very little Chinese. They use like white people for
- 1:22:13their propaganda instead of actual Chinese person.
- 1:22:16But you have someone who has a literature like knows how to do
- 1:22:19Chinese like a white person knows Mandarin.
- 1:22:23They don't use them because they are can be very critical, but
- 1:22:26with like a very corrupted white monkey, they will basically
- 1:22:29would use them for propaganda. That's how I kind of see the
- 1:22:31similarity between with the migrant workers and the white
- 1:22:34monkey job in China. I don't think that Democrats
- 1:22:38actually care about the migrants, and I think that
- 1:22:41there's a major reason why they're doing this.
- 1:22:43I'm going to show you a clip, and I want to know if you agree
- 1:22:46or disagree with what you're about to hear.
- 1:22:48This is a lot shorter. You ready?
- 1:22:50Sure thing. The numbers you need to
- 1:22:52understand. Yale University released a study
- 1:22:54last week by three researchers, all the liberal I believe, who
- 1:22:57concluded that the actual number of illegal aliens in this
- 1:22:59country is not 11,000,000. It's north of 22,000,022
- 1:23:03million. Fact One.
- 1:23:04Fact 2 The Democratic Party is now, as a matter of policy,
- 1:23:08calling for the legalization of all illegals in this country.
- 1:23:12Citizenship. Voting rights 22 million new
- 1:23:14voters. Fact 3 The overwhelming majority
- 1:23:16of first time immigrant voters vote Democrat.
- 1:23:18Fact 4 The largest margin in American presidential history
- 1:23:22was 17 million votes. 1980 election Thanks rather 1984
- 1:23:26election between Mondale and Reagan and Reagan.
- 1:23:28Yeah 17,000,000. You would add to our voter rolls
- 1:23:3222 million at least, permanent electoral majority in
- 1:23:37perpetuity. That's what this is about.
- 1:23:39It's not about making the country better, serving our
- 1:23:41labor needs, helping the population.
- 1:23:43It's about putting Democrats in power forever.
- 1:23:46That is the truth of our immigration debate.
- 1:23:48Period. All right.
- 1:23:51What's your views on that? That's exactly how I kind of
- 1:23:56thought of it for a while. It's like I feel like they're
- 1:23:58using migrant worker so that that way they can secure control
- 1:24:03of the country but not actually caring about not only them but
- 1:24:07also us at the same time. Because the fact is like our tax
- 1:24:11money, our hard working tax money is going to them and it's
- 1:24:16like, so you're just basically you're using our tax money for
- 1:24:19nothing basically like why should I pay my taxes if you're
- 1:24:23not actually helping the economy?
- 1:24:25Like this is the hypocrisy that a lot of people needs to wake
- 1:24:29up. So I actually had that kind of
- 1:24:30feeling for a while. It's like, yeah, that's exactly
- 1:24:33what I thought. And you know, I I actually agree
- 1:24:36with you, what you said earlier. I'm all about people getting
- 1:24:39into the country legally and going through the process and
- 1:24:43all that. The problem that a lot of folks
- 1:24:45don't think about here is this means the Democrats don't
- 1:24:48actually care about the migrants either.
- 1:24:51They're using them for votes. Once they get their votes, they
- 1:24:54don't care what happens with them.
- 1:24:56They're going to end up out on the street with our veterans.
- 1:24:59They're going to end up homeless and without food, nothing.
- 1:25:02And that'll be it. Yeah, like that's the sad part.
- 1:25:06It's like not only our veterans are being treated like shit,
- 1:25:09it's also because now, like the Democrats, they don't care about
- 1:25:13our economy. Like they probably want fucking
- 1:25:16Russia or China to invade because or even cause a civil
- 1:25:20war just for their own, you know, amusement.
- 1:25:24Like they're just basically, they're just publicity stunts.
- 1:25:29I agree with you. It's rough and I'm not sure if
- 1:25:34anything is going to get turned around anytime soon.
- 1:25:37I wouldn't really say that I'm for the left or for the right.
- 1:25:41I'm the only reason a lot of people get this all twisted.
- 1:25:45But one of the reasons I go for Trump is he's literally the only
- 1:25:48person that genuinely seems to care about doing something about
- 1:25:52it. If there were other people, I
- 1:25:54would probably consider them and be interested in what they have
- 1:25:57to say. But so far I'm just hearing a
- 1:26:00bunch of cowards who just are greedy, wanting to take our
- 1:26:03money on both sides. Left, right.
- 1:26:05Same bird, same bullshit. Exactly.
- 1:26:09It's like like I have like even though like I prefer to.
- 1:26:13I rather have Trump in the country than over biting is at
- 1:26:16least Trump knows how to run shit and I rather have Trump
- 1:26:20over Ron DeSantis cause. Come on Ron DeSantis.
- 1:26:23Like come on really. At least Trump is actually way
- 1:26:25better than Ron than DeSantis. And 2nd.
- 1:26:28Then you have Bernie Sanders. Like, dude, you're too old.
- 1:26:31And plus, get your socialism out of here, dude.
- 1:26:33We don't need your socialist bullshit.
- 1:26:36Exactly. Goodness gracious.
- 1:26:39More and more I hang out with the Satanist.
- 1:26:41More and more I find that we're in total agreement during a lot
- 1:26:44of things. The Christians are going to have
- 1:26:46to burn me at the stake later for that.
- 1:26:51Yeah, like. What's The thing is like we
- 1:26:53Satanists like that's another like Satanic sins, a lot of like
- 1:26:57the Mod, like the people in the Church of Satan and the TST is
- 1:27:00lack of perspective. And and I understand many
- 1:27:04perspective and it's better to have a lot of perspective than
- 1:27:07going around acting like A1 minded idiot.
- 1:27:10Even though sometimes I kind of do that as a kind of defense
- 1:27:13mechanism where they're kind of corner me just to kind of
- 1:27:16basically fuck with them. Kyle, I don't know if you're
- 1:27:22able to see the comments, are you?
- 1:27:25No, I can't see shit. Yeah, that's probably best.
- 1:27:28You don't. Some of the people out there are
- 1:27:30being encouraged and supportive, but we've got our, you know, our
- 1:27:34goofballs out there as well. But I let them do their thing,
- 1:27:37'cause I know that's pretty much all they have in their life to
- 1:27:39do. So yeah, I don't want they're
- 1:27:42not. Even that good of a trolls,
- 1:27:43unlike the local trolls, they're really good at, like music.
- 1:27:46Music is Marty, Liquid Chris, Liquid Chris and CLY Cash, Alec
- 1:27:55Benson, Leary vented the Astra Chew just the fuck with Sonic
- 1:27:59Chew. I bet this person was going
- 1:28:01around going Oh no, you're a Nazi, you're a fascist.
- 1:28:05Oh, you want to be that way? Of course I could just do the
- 1:28:07salute and and basically show you up, but no, I'm not going to
- 1:28:11do it because I know you shouldn't use it to blackmail
- 1:28:13me, so I'm not going to do it. Exactly.
- 1:28:18Yeah. My only rule with trolls is if
- 1:28:20they do come in and they want to talk to me, they have to at
- 1:28:22least give me some mental stimulation and entertain me.
- 1:28:27I don't care if somebody's mean as hell, just as long as they're
- 1:28:29funny about it, if that makes sense.
- 1:28:32Let's see what we got. All right.
- 1:28:34Just to get off of politics for a little bit, I'd like to hear
- 1:28:38some of your more philosophical views about things.
- 1:28:41I'm going to post, like an image across the screen and then try
- 1:28:44to get your opinion on it. If you wouldn't mind, it's just
- 1:28:47a little tiny bit of reading. Would you read this and tell me
- 1:28:50what you're getting from it? Yeah, sure.
- 1:28:59Oh damn. This is basically kind of
- 1:29:03similar with the modern era is basically I kind of see if that
- 1:29:08with the Anton LA phase of chapter and the if if you want
- 1:29:14God dead or alive. It really reminds me of when Ant
- 1:29:17Olivet criticized the Christian atheist.
- 1:29:19This is exactly what kind of reminds me of that.
- 1:29:21Basically, what a Blatche Barnes letter, basically.
- 1:29:25That kind of reminds me of that a little bit.
- 1:29:29So why do you think that this man had this view like this?
- 1:29:32And strangely enough, even though he obviously took a very
- 1:29:35negative path in his life, why do you think someone would think
- 1:29:39that If there is no God or there is no devil, that what's the
- 1:29:43point of even changing your morality for the good?
- 1:29:47To him, morals are nothing more than an illusion.
- 1:29:52Like every morality is different in every single culture.
- 1:29:56Like not every single religion and you know country has
- 1:30:00different morals. Like like Islam has a very
- 1:30:03different moral. Christianity has different
- 1:30:05moral. Like literally depends.
- 1:30:08It's about learning how to come up with your own version that
- 1:30:10makes it even better compared to like the ones are trying to tell
- 1:30:14you which one's the true one. It's about learning to follow
- 1:30:18what you want in your life now, what others are trying to put
- 1:30:21into your head. All right, I got another image
- 1:30:26I'm going to put up on Twitter. I find myself in a lot of
- 1:30:29discussions with Atheist, and they like to say things like
- 1:30:34there's been so many people killed in the name of religion
- 1:30:38and one of the people they like to bring up is Hitler.
- 1:30:40They say that he was a Christian.
- 1:30:42So I was looking through Hitler's diary.
- 1:30:45I tend to like to read and they found this.
- 1:30:50Would you like me to read it out loud?
- 1:30:52I got it. I'm reading it.
- 1:30:55You let me You let me know if you think that sounds like a
- 1:30:58Christian to you. Oh no.
- 1:31:02Oh, come on now. That's like literally the most
- 1:31:06like pointless talk. I'm like, dude, everyone has
- 1:31:09died over something. My thank you for getting about
- 1:31:12the Crusades, for fuck's sake over Jerusalem.
- 1:31:15Like, come on now. Really.
- 1:31:17Like, Hitler is a National Socialist.
- 1:31:19He's a far leftist, my far leftist dictator.
- 1:31:23In National Socialism, religion is not even acceptable in, you
- 1:31:28know, any form of socialism, including National socialism
- 1:31:32along with Marxist socialism as well, because because he
- 1:31:36believes in the Iranian race he has like this weird belief and
- 1:31:40he also claimed to like be a cultist, but but obviously he's
- 1:31:45not really that big of a cultist.
- 1:31:46Like he was like interested in it, but he didn't really
- 1:31:49practice it. Just for a quick plug out there,
- 1:31:54ladies and gentlemen, this is a friend of mine who recently
- 1:31:57bought one of the T-shirts. Apparently she likes the manatee
- 1:32:00one. There we go.
- 1:32:04Florida and he saw some manatee while Manatee's reserve.
- 1:32:10I hear you there. All right.
- 1:32:13So what do you think of whenever it comes to the concept of
- 1:32:17morality? Do you believe that there's such
- 1:32:19a thing as objective morals? That is really like dependable.
- 1:32:24Like in my opinion, like there's no absolute moral because like I
- 1:32:29said, it really depends on people.
- 1:32:31Like every person will have a different point of view.
- 1:32:35It's like, come on now. It's like, really?
- 1:32:39And I yeah, yeah, sorry, the comment right here.
- 1:32:43And yeah, like he was kind of an atheist, but he did have like
- 1:32:48this really weird belief of the Iranian race thinking, you know,
- 1:32:52the Germans are like the superior race.
- 1:32:54So he kind of formed like his own religion technically.
- 1:32:58But yeah, he is more of an atheist because that's kind of
- 1:33:00common in a socialist, especially like Nazis,
- 1:33:06communists, the collectivist, the the syndicalism, including
- 1:33:11Mussolini, fascism as well. Yeah, he was.
- 1:33:15He was a socialist communist who endorsed evolution.
- 1:33:19He believed that we were the superior ape.
- 1:33:23The white man was the superior ape over the other tribalistic
- 1:33:26creatures, and that is one of the reasons he taught over that.
- 1:33:31I don't know how anybody in their right mind could have
- 1:33:33thought that he was a Christian. If he killed 6,000,000 Jews, or
- 1:33:36at least contributed to it, why would he worship a Jewish
- 1:33:40Messiah, right? Yeah, like that contradicts on
- 1:33:46the Abrahamic faith, because if he was really following
- 1:33:49Christianity, he'd be following the Abrahamic God.
- 1:33:52So if you're saying he's a Christian, so that means he's
- 1:33:56killing the same people that were killing the people that
- 1:33:59worships the same God. And like what?
- 1:34:03And and like that's not how religion actually works, if you
- 1:34:07really look at it. Because I'm not saying all
- 1:34:09atheists are like that. But, I said most atheists don't
- 1:34:12really understand the connection and not willing to do research
- 1:34:15on the the connections. Right.
- 1:34:20And you've you've heard a lot of claims from atheists where they
- 1:34:23state that most wars have been done in the name of religion,
- 1:34:28right? You probably heard that claim
- 1:34:30over and over. I've kind of went through a
- 1:34:33graph on this, and as you can see, I do have a Christian in
- 1:34:37there. But look at where most of the
- 1:34:39wars came from, and how. I would say most wars.
- 1:34:46I say not like, yes, some part is religion, but I say the
- 1:34:50majority of them is political power, especially like Mao
- 1:34:54Zedong and Joseph Stalin. He they're willing to kill their
- 1:34:58own people just to basically compete other countries to be at
- 1:35:02the Super nation like Mao with the Great Leap Forward.
- 1:35:06He even said he didn't care how much people he'll kill, kill his
- 1:35:10own people. He's willing to kill his own
- 1:35:12people just to basically compete against the Soviet Union, and
- 1:35:15Stalin basically did the same thing with the Five Year Plan
- 1:35:18all. Right.
- 1:35:21They weren't against killing other atheists who disagreed
- 1:35:24with them, or even scientists. Nope.
- 1:35:29And Mosley Donkey also had the Cultural Revolution that
- 1:35:33basically what it did is basically destroy not only their
- 1:35:38cultural background, like all this, the historical stuff and
- 1:35:42their own traditional stuff, but also like older people who are
- 1:35:45like smarter and like more like artists, intellectualist,
- 1:35:49doctors, teachers, and then replaced by younger people.
- 1:35:53Because I've seen like the movie called The To Live and another
- 1:35:57movie is The Last Emperor and they did talk about the the
- 1:36:01Cultural Revolution. There's another thing I've
- 1:36:05noticed too. Have you ever?
- 1:36:07I mean, obviously you're aware of trolls out there, but have
- 1:36:10you ever heard of something called a meme generator before?
- 1:36:14Meme generators. Oh yeah, There's always good
- 1:36:16people be generating like a lot of fucking.
- 1:36:18Like, there's some memes are funny, but there's some are just
- 1:36:21like, really did. Come on, now you're just trying
- 1:36:25to be funny. You're not that funny.
- 1:36:27Well, there's some atheists have used meme propaganda where they
- 1:36:31will post false quotes that someone never even said.
- 1:36:35And one of the things that they did for the last 15 years was
- 1:36:38they claimed that Albert Einstein, one of the most
- 1:36:41intelligent men in the world, was an atheist.
- 1:36:43But if you'll notice when looking at these memes, they
- 1:36:46don't have any sources. Where to find this?
- 1:36:49What book it was then? Anything but me.
- 1:36:52I've always been about giving the sources.
- 1:36:55What do you get from that? Oh yeah, I'd say like majority
- 1:36:59of scientists were, you know, religiously but the law, not
- 1:37:04that all atheists, but I say most atheists don't realize is a
- 1:37:08lot of scientists, they separate from science and religion to
- 1:37:12focus on, you know stuff like that.
- 1:37:15They just are not willing to actually understand that they
- 1:37:18you can separate those two. Are you aware that almost every
- 1:37:25single scientist that came up with a lot of the stuff having
- 1:37:28to do with the cosmos and the universe, including The Big Bang
- 1:37:31theory, we're all done by people who believed in a supernatural
- 1:37:36or higher power prime mover? Oh yeah, I would definitely say
- 1:37:40that, yeah, because it will make more sense.
- 1:37:42Like logically, yes, because how else was like how would they
- 1:37:47actually even come up with that really?
- 1:37:49And if you really get what I'm saying.
- 1:37:52Oh, I I totally get you. And the way I think about it,
- 1:37:56like this. This may come off weird, but if
- 1:37:59you don't believe there's anything out the in the universe
- 1:38:02to be found, then why would you go looking in the 1st place?
- 1:38:05It's like, if I tell you that everything's empty and there's
- 1:38:08nothing to find, then why would you bother going in the other
- 1:38:11room to look? Why even waste your time, which
- 1:38:14is the view of the world? You're the atheist.
- 1:38:16But if you're a religious person who believes that there's a God
- 1:38:20or a devil or some kind of entity that has created a
- 1:38:23mysterious universe, and you know there's many treasures to
- 1:38:27be found, right? Oh yeah, for sure.
- 1:38:30Like there's a lot of people, like, always keeps contradicting
- 1:38:34a lot of stuff. Especially there's like a lot
- 1:38:37of, like, atheists going around. And the funniest thing I would
- 1:38:41say though, is like, they always try to.
- 1:38:43It's like telling the dog there's a tree in an empty room,
- 1:38:46but there's nothing in the empty room.
- 1:38:49That's basically exactly what they're doing.
- 1:38:50They're just like saying like, oh, there's a tree in the empty
- 1:38:53room. That's right.
- 1:38:58That's right. It sounds like you put a lot of
- 1:39:01thought and many of your ideas and what you've seen in the
- 1:39:04world and all that. It's very refreshing to have a
- 1:39:07good conversation with someone as intelligent as yourself.
- 1:39:11Unfortunately, sometimes I got I get people who are only on like
- 1:39:14the first level of thinking, but you're up there with me and dig
- 1:39:17it. Oh yeah, like I've been reading
- 1:39:20a lot of like books. I just got done reading Gerald
- 1:39:23Garner's Book of Shadow, The Father of Wicca and Neo
- 1:39:27Paganism, and I understand his perspective.
- 1:39:29I also read Michael Aquino's both The Satanic Bible 50th
- 1:39:33Anniversary Revision and the Temple Said Volume One.
- 1:39:36And I also read Michael W Ford's book The Apotheus, The Ultimate
- 1:39:41Beginner's Guide of Luciferianism and the Left Hand
- 1:39:43Path. And I also read Avenger,
- 1:39:46Satana's Cthulhu Kahl and the Levier AO.
- 1:39:50And I also read like Reverie Kane's Infernal Gospel and the
- 1:39:54Satanic Philosopher, along with Anton La Vey's Satanic Ritual
- 1:39:57and the Satanic Bible and Lucifer Leg Gordon's book as
- 1:40:01well. So I've been reading a lot of
- 1:40:02books. That's awesome, man.
- 1:40:06That's awesome. You should keep on rocking them
- 1:40:10that way. There you go.
- 1:40:13Oh yeah, Like, I'm just trying to, you know, expand myself,
- 1:40:16reach my own might, reach my ultimate tool and try to, you
- 1:40:20know, do the best I can, you know, to be what I meant to be.
- 1:40:24Not just trying to follow what they're following, but just
- 1:40:27following what I follow, but also trying to give a good
- 1:40:31explanation on what is going on. Because I'll sit.
- 1:40:34Like I said, I'll tell people like you might have different
- 1:40:36opinions, but there's always going to be a common ground for
- 1:40:39every people. Doesn't matter if it's you, it's
- 1:40:42doesn't matter. We might.
- 1:40:44We always have a common ground on something.
- 1:40:48If you don't mind me asking what is the fool?
- 1:40:51I think that's how you pronounced it.
- 1:40:53What is? It's basically like what Le
- 1:40:58Gorgon say. It's about the point you're
- 1:41:00reaching, like the ultimate tool.
- 1:41:02It's about reaching your highest point as you can and it's like
- 1:41:06the land of the north, you're going north.
- 1:41:12Hello Skeptical Strom. I hope your day has been well.
- 1:41:16Yeah, it's been a Fortunately, it's been kind of a really
- 1:41:21difficult for me to do this show today because I'm extremely
- 1:41:25stuffed up and I've been sick. My throat's sore and I'm stuffed
- 1:41:29on the left side of my head. I can't hear out my left ear, so
- 1:41:33hopefully by Friday I'll be more entertaining.
- 1:41:36As you probably noticed, I'm a lot more monotone than usual,
- 1:41:40so. It's been usually are monotone
- 1:41:43and trust me, I get. Especially if you live in the
- 1:41:45state I live. Oh yeah, always gonna be cold
- 1:41:48air. And trust me, I get frequent
- 1:41:49nose bleed. It sucks.
- 1:41:52Well, believe it or not, hanging out with you and talking to you
- 1:41:55has actually gotten me feeling better.
- 1:41:57I'm literally feeling like I'm kind of breaking a sweat, and
- 1:42:00that's actually good, and I'm having some good discussion.
- 1:42:04Always gets the brain chemicals working good, right?
- 1:42:08Oh yeah, for sure. I'm always willing to jump on
- 1:42:10your show. I'm willing to make up an
- 1:42:12audience. Like, I don't do a lot of social
- 1:42:14media, but I'm honestly what finally found someone that could
- 1:42:17actually have a common point instead of trying to have an
- 1:42:20endless debate on someone who hasn't even have a fucking clue
- 1:42:23what they're talking about. Oh, Mr. Skeptical Strum, is
- 1:42:31Darwin to Jesus. How you doing there, guy?
- 1:42:34He's a person that I chat with often on or no Twitter.
- 1:42:38He's cool. He's cool.
- 1:42:39Oh, that's. Cool.
- 1:42:43Don't hold me. Hotties.
- 1:42:46Well if anybody wants to come in here and chat and all that and
- 1:42:49have a great discussion with me and my new friend Black Metal at
- 1:42:55first because my believe it or not, when I first seen the name
- 1:43:00I was like is that Metal baller or metaller?
- 1:43:03Yeah, it's yeah, it says Black Metaller.
- 1:43:06Yeah, and that was the one that looks for the league Corp didn't
- 1:43:09accidentally block me. Instead, the other troll who's
- 1:43:12giving out the reaction, 'cause I was like the one just kind of
- 1:43:15basically just like going now we react just like, oh boy, here we
- 1:43:18go. I got to be the teacher now.
- 1:43:22So what is? I should probably know this
- 1:43:25since I'm a metalhead, but what is metaller?
- 1:43:30Well, black metaler, it's a another branch of the metal
- 1:43:33heads. Like you have the thrashers, you
- 1:43:34have the blacker and you have the deathers and the doomer.
- 1:43:37Like these are this is my battle vest I have.
- 1:43:40It has like some Bastille black metal band like Bureaid Revenge,
- 1:43:43Conqueror and like. Stand up so I can see your
- 1:43:47shirt. I can see the cool stuff at the
- 1:43:49top. Oh wow, that's an awesome
- 1:43:52looking shirt. Look at.
- 1:43:53That my Yeah Dark Throne shirt. This is Transylvania hunger.
- 1:43:57I actually have that on CD. This is my battle vest I have.
- 1:44:01Battle Vest There you go, man. Ready for rocking?
- 1:44:05Oh yeah, I that's actually my second battle vest.
- 1:44:07I do have a first one I made last year.
- 1:44:09I have a denim vest I'm going to do for the Iron Maiden Contra
- 1:44:13that's coming in October. I'm actually kind of pumped up
- 1:44:17for that. You're going to get to see Iron
- 1:44:21Maiden is it with Bruce Dickinson?
- 1:44:23Oh, hell yeah. Like that is the band I love to
- 1:44:26see. I even have the Iron Maiden on
- 1:44:28Number of the Beast backpatch. I'm going to put it on my dinner
- 1:44:31vest. Oh, it looks like Darwin for
- 1:44:36Jesus is here. I'm going to make sure before I
- 1:44:38put him up on the big screen because sometimes people fake me
- 1:44:41out and put their balls on the screen for me.
- 1:44:44Oh yeah, and Oh yeah, I was on Tony the Black Dragon stream and
- 1:44:47someone actually did a porn bomb his stream one time.
- 1:44:50It was fucking. Oh, I get that all the time.
- 1:44:53I get people who come up and they do that.
- 1:44:55Hey, can you do me a favor and say who you are real quick so I
- 1:44:58can know for sure? Hey Brad, what's going on man?
- 1:45:01Hey, man, let me go ahead and put you up.
- 1:45:03There we go. There we go.
- 1:45:05Guys, can you give me a moment? I'm so glad that you're in here,
- 1:45:08Daniel, because I got to use the ladies room.
- 1:45:10I'll be right back. Can you 2 gentlemen talk for a
- 1:45:13little bit? All right, sure.
- 1:45:14What? What's up, man?
- 1:45:16Yeah, nothing much. Me and him, we're having a good
- 1:45:18discussion, you know, talk about some stuff.
- 1:45:21And I remember like, seeing that fucking woke liberal screaming
- 1:45:25on the mic. I was like, Oh no, not that
- 1:45:28video because I've seen that many times.
- 1:45:29And then when I saw that furry, oh boy, I literally, my brain
- 1:45:33cells just died. I was like, oh, stop with that.
- 1:45:38I can't take it no more. What were you talking about?
- 1:45:43We we were talking about multi like.
- 1:45:47Did you meant say something about the Thuli Society?
- 1:45:50Yeah, there's a satanic organization called the Satanic
- 1:45:54Thule Society. He does, like Brett, does a talk
- 1:45:58talk with the founder Lucifer Lake Gorfton, and we were
- 1:46:02talking about like Satanism and how like the atheistic Satanist
- 1:46:07from like the Church of Satan and the TST, how they attack
- 1:46:10other people. We're also talking about like
- 1:46:12politics, mental health even like locales like Christian,
- 1:46:17Christian, Cyrex, the White, Bowser, King Cobra, JFS, Shanny
- 1:46:22for Christ, etcetera. So what are your thoughts on all
- 1:46:26that? Are Are you a Christian?
- 1:46:28I'm actually a Satanist. OK, so like a legit real
- 1:46:33Satanist and. You're.
- 1:46:34Yeah, I'm the one that follows Levay's true philosophy from The
- 1:46:39Satanic Bible, and I do have an altar myself, but right now I'm
- 1:46:43out in the living room, so I'm not even at my room right now.
- 1:46:45And plus, I don't feel like getting up, having to get up and
- 1:46:49coat my room. So you believe that the
- 1:46:51supernatural is a real thing? Is that?
- 1:46:53Correct. Yes, exactly.
- 1:46:54Yes, that's what most Satanists do.
- 1:46:57But yeah, like the Church of Satan going around, start
- 1:47:00denouncing, you know, Anton Levay, 'cause he did actually
- 1:47:04believe in a supernatural force including God.
- 1:47:07But then you have Peter H Gilmore basically trying to
- 1:47:10rewrite what Anton Levay had done.
- 1:47:13You can actually watch, you know, the video that Brett did
- 1:47:16on his channel along with the STS channel as well, 'cause they
- 1:47:19did a live like a three live, 2 live stream together that he did
- 1:47:24with him. And I was actually, I did watch
- 1:47:27one of live stream full and it was like a three hour live
- 1:47:30stream and they talked some really good shit.
- 1:47:33Hey, Brett, it's your show, but do you mind if I ask some
- 1:47:37questions and stuff? Sure, sure.
- 1:47:40I think you guys will have a lovely conversation.
- 1:47:43I did get both. I just didn't want to come in
- 1:47:45here and kind of take over so. No, actually, I could really use
- 1:47:51the help that's been really helpful for me and making me
- 1:47:54feel better, but I've been sick. I can't hear through my left ear
- 1:47:58and my throat's killing me. If you guys.
- 1:48:00Want to take over to show make it happen?
- 1:48:03Please. Sure.
- 1:48:05Is that cool, man? Like if I ask some questions and
- 1:48:08stuff. Oh yeah, he's open for
- 1:48:11questions. No, I mean you.
- 1:48:14Oh yeah, I'm always open for questions.
- 1:48:16I try to get the best honest opinion as I can.
- 1:48:20Like, I'm not going to be 100% accurate, but I always will try.
- 1:48:25OK, awesome, because I've actually studied occultism quite
- 1:48:28a bit. It's not something I talk about
- 1:48:30normally on my channel at all, because people think, oh, I'm
- 1:48:34crazy if I talk about this stuff because most people don't know
- 1:48:38about it. But it is something that I know
- 1:48:41a fair bit about, and I I've been wanting to actually talk to
- 1:48:46a Satanist about this kind of stuff.
- 1:48:48So it's kind of an interesting opportunity.
- 1:48:51So I guess my first question would be, why do you think that
- 1:48:56the supernatural is real? It's all about is your level of
- 1:49:01consciousness like it could be, you know, like an event like
- 1:49:05Lucifer, like Gorbin actually did talk about his near death
- 1:49:08experience actually. And you could actually did can
- 1:49:10watch one of the first video mention him.
- 1:49:13And it's actually a really good video on that.
- 1:49:16And some people do have like experience.
- 1:49:19Like I had my own experience, like when I was at my deepest
- 1:49:22darkest point, like when I had the severe depression, when I,
- 1:49:26you know, pray to Satan, I actually hear his call.
- 1:49:29And that's when I start, you know following his teaching
- 1:49:33along with Levay And I realized there is something out there and
- 1:49:38and I do believe in evolution because I because I believe in
- 1:49:41science. So.
- 1:49:43And now each Satanists are very different like yes, some are
- 1:49:48Satians they follow satianism. They follow the Egyptian God's
- 1:49:52sect. It was thanks to Michael Aquino
- 1:49:56forming the temple of Set after he left the Church of Satanists
- 1:49:59because of what happened was is Anton La Babe was basically
- 1:50:04going around saying say oh now people could be a priest by
- 1:50:07paying me money, which Aquino disproof didn't like that
- 1:50:11because he I do agree with Quino is people should earn that title
- 1:50:15to be even a priest or a Majister or a majest.
- 1:50:18So you left and form the temple set.
- 1:50:20Then you have another branch called Cathulianism based on
- 1:50:24power filled Lovecraft's Cthulhu mythos and it's accidentally
- 1:50:29made by Levay and the one of the members, even Lucifer.
- 1:50:33The Gordon was actually an earliest member of Ventur
- 1:50:36Satana's Cthulhu cult, later called the Cthulhu.
- 1:50:40Now it's owned by the STS, but there was another one made by
- 1:50:44Winter Wiley. There's actually a video both on
- 1:50:46Facebook Live and YouTube about the what happened with Winter
- 1:50:51Wiley and how he got exposed for basically being a fraud.
- 1:50:58So your reasoning for thinking that the supernatural is correct
- 1:51:03or true is because you've personally experienced hearing
- 1:51:07the call of Satan. I was wondering, have you done
- 1:51:11satanic rituals where you've seen things?
- 1:51:14I done a lot of satanic rituals like you don't see but you can
- 1:51:18feel their presence like you when you say like their infernal
- 1:51:22names, you can feel them watching you and you can feel
- 1:51:27their presence. Like it doesn't mean you have to
- 1:51:30see, but you can feel it now. You can sleep and see what's
- 1:51:36going on in your dreams like some like Lucifer Lake Gorbin
- 1:51:39actually study on, you know kind of meditating going outside of
- 1:51:43your body though. So some people have a very
- 1:51:46different experience. But with my experience when I do
- 1:51:49like rituals like when I do my monthly high mass, every full
- 1:51:52moon or the all holidays mass, I could feel their presence right
- 1:51:57there. So would you say that atheists
- 1:52:01are like actual atheists are blind fools because they don't
- 1:52:04understand that the supernatural is a real thing?
- 1:52:07In my opinion, it's their opinion.
- 1:52:10But they don't have the right to tell Other people like they
- 1:52:13should, you know, say, oh, you should stop believing that
- 1:52:16because, oh, 'cause you're, oh, you're atheistic.
- 1:52:20You're believing in a, you know, a fictional character.
- 1:52:22I'm like, you have no right to tell me.
- 1:52:24It's like a fundamental Christian saying, oh, you should
- 1:52:27be a Christian. It's the only way you could save
- 1:52:29your soul. It's like, come on, that doesn't
- 1:52:32give you the right. And then you got the the Church
- 1:52:34of Satan going around attacking not only my organization I'm
- 1:52:38part of, he's also they're also attacking Brett Kane as well.
- 1:52:42Even when he shows the evidence of proof of antelope theism,
- 1:52:47they still try to not even Lucifly.
- 1:52:49Gordon even tries to explain it, but they still won't listen to
- 1:52:52say they're with the Satanic Temple.
- 1:52:54And they always been notorious for attacking people who are
- 1:52:58different. Daniel Daniel, just real quick
- 1:53:01to give you a kind of a up summary of what happened.
- 1:53:05I made a documentary video about Anton La Vey, the founder of the
- 1:53:09Church of Satan. And I showed and proved that he
- 1:53:13was theistic, that he believed in an actual devil and actually
- 1:53:17believed in God. And this interested the theistic
- 1:53:21Satanist out there. And they approached me and asked
- 1:53:23if I'd be willing to have talks with them and I found out that
- 1:53:27they've been going to war with the atheist version of Satanism.
- 1:53:31So there you go, Continue on guys.
- 1:53:33Just wanted to review him on that.
- 1:53:36OK, that's interesting. That's cool.
- 1:53:39I'll have to check out that documentary because a lot of
- 1:53:43atheists inherit that same stuff, and I know based on my
- 1:53:47research, I agree with what are you being called, Black Meddler?
- 1:53:53Yeah. Black Meddler 666, Yes.
- 1:53:55OK, Black Meddler. Yeah.
- 1:53:57So I agree with you guys that based on what I've seen, he was
- 1:54:01definitely not just an atheist. He was he thought that Satan was
- 1:54:05real and he worshipped him. So anyway, I guess my next
- 1:54:10question was where do you think you're going to go when you die?
- 1:54:15Like I said, like so with another point is there's
- 1:54:17actually a in the Satanic Testament there is a chapter
- 1:54:21about, you know, hell. So and what he described is when
- 1:54:26you're in there, you're in like a void.
- 1:54:29And once you have all like the guilt and the stuff you happen,
- 1:54:33you have your own personal demon you have to come terms with.
- 1:54:37And once you come term terms, you could be reincarnated or you
- 1:54:41can go to the city of Diss from the Greek pantheon.
- 1:54:45So I'm a little bit confused here, maybe you can help me out,
- 1:54:49but would would you agree or or with this or or disagree that if
- 1:54:56Satan is real then Christianity is true?
- 1:54:58Would you agree with that? It it also depends to like like
- 1:55:04is this like any religious belief in general?
- 1:55:07Like is that just Christianity, saying Judaism, Islam, even
- 1:55:10Paganism, hell, even Luciferianism, demonometry, even
- 1:55:14Cathulianism and Sedianism. Like it literally depends.
- 1:55:17So I'm not saying it's fairly true, it's just it really
- 1:55:21depends on each different perspective.
- 1:55:23OK, well, what do you think? Do you think that Christianity
- 1:55:26is true? Like Christianity like they have
- 1:55:30their own variations so I kind of say half I could say yes and
- 1:55:34no like yes on with like God's existence but but I don't but I
- 1:55:40don't believe what the the Bible say about you know but I don't
- 1:55:43like agree what they're saying you know fire and brimstone even
- 1:55:46though actually hell is more like Tartarus.
- 1:55:51So you think that Jesus was a real person and actually the Son
- 1:55:55of God and he died for everyone's sins?
- 1:55:57Do you think that? I do believe that yes, like
- 1:56:00Jesus did exist. But I don't.
- 1:56:03Like, there is like, a lot of historical Jesus out there, yes,
- 1:56:07but it's also pretty debatable too, because sometimes the only
- 1:56:12one you can tell is when you die.
- 1:56:16Well, if Jesus really did exist and he really did conquer death
- 1:56:21just granted for the sake of the conversation.
- 1:56:23If you don't mind, I'm just curious what your thoughts are
- 1:56:26on this. If he really did do those
- 1:56:28things, then shouldn't we pay attention to what he said as far
- 1:56:33as like what hell is going to be like?
- 1:56:36That that's something like a lot of people has to understand
- 1:56:40this. It's something like you have to
- 1:56:42kind of follow your own path. It's that's what like what being
- 1:56:46a human is. It's not about, you know, blind
- 1:56:49following. It's about questioning on not
- 1:56:53only my belief, like I do question not only my belief, but
- 1:56:56I also do question other people's belief as well.
- 1:56:59It's all about is learning to question is what is your path
- 1:57:04and where you want to go. Like, if you, if you want, you
- 1:57:07know, follow my path, fine, You know, and it's your decision.
- 1:57:11Like it's all about. It's what's best for you.
- 1:57:14That's not what's best for Jesus, God, Satan, Odin, Zeus,
- 1:57:19Cthulhu, Set, or Noratha Tab, or Shathuga, etcetera.
- 1:57:25It's all up to you. Well, do you think that?
- 1:57:30And I'm not trying to don't take this question the wrong way, but
- 1:57:33do you think that my daughter, who's 2 1/2 years old, knows
- 1:57:36what's best for her? No, my kids are kids.
- 1:57:40Like, dude, if you look at the modern stuff nowadays, they're
- 1:57:43always in prop propaganda with like, drag shows on like Blue's
- 1:57:47Clues. So like your daughter, like she
- 1:57:49won't know. Like.
- 1:57:51Well. My point.
- 1:57:52Is compared to God. We're like children.
- 1:57:55I mean, if God did exist, we would be calling us like a
- 1:57:58child. Compared to God would be
- 1:58:00actually incredibly flattering to to us, don't you think?
- 1:58:04It would be and also another thing in the Satan in the
- 1:58:08Satanic Testament with the Satanic parent.
- 1:58:11This one actually, like I was talking to Brett, is with that
- 1:58:15one I remember mentioned like, don't indoctrinate your kids
- 1:58:19into like following your religious belief.
- 1:58:22But in my perspective, it's about guiding your daughter to
- 1:58:26success, successful future, by basically helping her, you know,
- 1:58:30because since she's young, like being a parent is about
- 1:58:33protecting them from anyone who wants to do harm.
- 1:58:38Right. But the reason why I brought up
- 1:58:41my daughter is because compared to God, we're like children,
- 1:58:46which is incredibly flattering to us.
- 1:58:48But what I'm trying to say is that even as adults, we would
- 1:58:52be, you know, God would know way better than us.
- 1:58:55So if God, you know, you said like we should just be our own
- 1:58:58gods essentially and we should decide what's what's best for
- 1:59:02us. But seems like if God existed,
- 1:59:05he would know what was best for us and we should listen to him.
- 1:59:08In the same way that my 2 year old daughter know doesn't know
- 1:59:11what's best for her, she needs to listen to me.
- 1:59:14What do you think? Like there's another thing a lot
- 1:59:18of people forget like cuz acts because and there is actually
- 1:59:21the term is is where you're born as a Satanist.
- 1:59:26Now when you say born and not like born, born, but it's more
- 1:59:28like a metaphor of if you actually agree with Anton
- 1:59:31Levay's statement when you read it, you realize something, but
- 1:59:35you also do have to kind of question, you know, God's motive
- 1:59:39sometimes because sometimes you might not know his true
- 1:59:43attention. Like every people will never
- 1:59:47know their true attention. Like, I'm not trying to sound
- 1:59:49like, you know, preachy, but everyone has their own ego, as
- 1:59:53some people do have a very hidden and not a lot of people
- 1:59:56actually know until it's too late.
- 1:59:59Like you may not know if God is evil or not, or Satan is evil or
- 2:00:04not, or Odin Zeus, RAW. Others like it's very hard
- 2:00:10discussion because nobody really knows.
- 2:00:14But if you try to tell that to like the Church of Satan, they
- 2:00:18will be like, oh, you're believing in fairy tales.
- 2:00:22It's like, oh, Satan doesn't exist.
- 2:00:24He's a metaphor. We use him as a symbol.
- 2:00:27But then when pH Gilmore goes around and start telling people
- 2:00:31that, you know, you know, saying, oh, the theistic
- 2:00:34Satanists are double worshippers, all that stuff,
- 2:00:37well, they hijacked what Levay actually started and what Levay.
- 2:00:44And like that's the term is when you're reading the book, like
- 2:00:48I've read like the Satanic Testament and if you read
- 2:00:51there's actually a, there's a chapter in Levay's book called
- 2:00:57trying to trying to find the page, not the book of Satan.
- 2:01:01That's the one that tells if one God dead or alive.
- 2:01:05It show. It talks about, you know some
- 2:01:08element of God. And I would read some of the
- 2:01:11passages like it is a popular misconception that a Satanist
- 2:01:15does not believe in God and the concept of God and is
- 2:01:20interpreted by man has been a varied throughout the age.
- 2:01:25Thus that is the Satanist simply accepts the definition which
- 2:01:30suits him best. Man has has always created his
- 2:01:34God rather than his God created him.
- 2:01:37God is to some being, to others terrifying to the Satanist.
- 2:01:43God, by whatever name His he is called, or by no name at all, is
- 2:01:50seen as a as the balancing factor in nature and not as it
- 2:01:56being concerned with suffering. This power force which permits
- 2:02:01the balance of the universe is far too impersonal to care about
- 2:02:08the happiness or mystery misery of flesh and blood creatures on
- 2:02:14this fall of dirt upon which alive.
- 2:02:21So what do you think that means? It's.
- 2:02:25I remember Lucifer Le Gorg didn't actually talk about a it
- 2:02:29was something I forgot the term it's basically it's is we
- 2:02:33created God and Satan, but that doesn't mean it's imaginary.
- 2:02:38It's real. So in our in like in this
- 2:02:42interpretation, a, it's not a demo.
- 2:02:46Gordon, I know what I forgot what this for Luke.
- 2:02:48Gordon called it, but I know what he was talking about.
- 2:02:51It's basically he's was saying is how he got so powerful 'cause
- 2:02:55we created him. Kind of like how if you are
- 2:03:02afraid of a monster under the bed, it.
- 2:03:05Yes, exactly. Yeah.
- 2:03:10Well, I understand that, but are you saying that if human beings
- 2:03:15never existed, there would be no Satan?
- 2:03:19Exactly, that's how he is, because was was Anton La Fey.
- 2:03:23He didn't believe in the anthropomorphic Satan, but he
- 2:03:27did say he felt a dark energy because Satan.
- 2:03:31There's actually a chapter in the Satanic Testament called Who
- 2:03:34or What is Satan? It actually talks about how
- 2:03:37Satan could take on many forms. Like you could take on like like
- 2:03:42a dark like it's true form, it's mostly the spirit form, the one
- 2:03:47that we created. But you could take on an
- 2:03:49anthropomorphic form or the dark energy that Anton Lavey has said
- 2:03:53cause Satan. Or some people like the Sedians,
- 2:03:55they say Satan is set while Cathulians would say Cathulu is
- 2:04:00set. Or some like Luciferians.
- 2:04:03Well, OK, let me ask you this. I'm really curious if I
- 2:04:08hypothetically proved to you that Jesus Christ really was God
- 2:04:13in the flesh and he died for your sins, and that Christianity
- 2:04:16was true, and that these beings that you think are Demogorgon
- 2:04:21are actually demons and they're real.
- 2:04:24They are fallen angels essentially, and things of that
- 2:04:28nature. And that if you don't get right
- 2:04:31with God, you're going to go to hell and it's a real place and
- 2:04:34it's not going to be good. What would you do?
- 2:04:38I just, I just accepted because truth is I rather die and go to
- 2:04:43hell for my belief and convert like and then convert because
- 2:04:48sometimes because of how we see Satan, we see him as the
- 2:04:53Enlightenment figure as the one shows us the truth.
- 2:04:58While some people like the Luciferians, they actually don't
- 2:05:03believe in like, you know, the God.
- 2:05:06They actually believe that Lucifer is the creator and the,
- 2:05:10you know, the creator of the universe.
- 2:05:12And they also see this stuff as the balance between light and
- 2:05:16dark, as that's actually one of the mention I read in the
- 2:05:18Apotheus, The Ultimate Beginner's Guide to
- 2:05:21Luciferianism and the Left Hand Path.
- 2:05:23Michael Ford's version is Americanized version
- 2:05:26Luciferianism, because there's a European one, but that's very
- 2:05:29top secret. So it it seems strange to me.
- 2:05:33Maybe maybe I'm missing something, but if it were the
- 2:05:36case, I'm I'm still speaking hypothetically here.
- 2:05:39But if it were the case that Christianity was true and yet
- 2:05:44Satan was also the light bringer, meaning he told you the
- 2:05:49truth, then when he tell you that Christianity was true and
- 2:05:52the true nature of hell and where you were going to go.
- 2:05:56In my opinion, I just kind of view like Christianity like a
- 2:05:59little bit false because every there's a lot of different
- 2:06:03denomination of Christianity. Like some have a very different
- 2:06:07perspective. Just say things like you know,
- 2:06:10different branch of paganism, different branch of even like
- 2:06:14Judaism or even Islam. But even that, it's literally up
- 2:06:18to the individual person, because not everyone would agree
- 2:06:22to that. Well.
- 2:06:25I mean, you have different branches of Satanism, right?
- 2:06:28And that doesn't mean that you should think that what you are
- 2:06:30doing is wrong or false, right? Yeah, no, I always acknowledge
- 2:06:34the difference and I don't really like me as like I said,
- 2:06:39I'm not afraid of going to hell because because I might be going
- 2:06:43to the city of Dis. Like who knows?
- 2:06:46It's it's wait until our time has come, and it's always best
- 2:06:50just to, you know, hey, it's OK, you know, to fear the unknown.
- 2:06:55But it's always best to let your curiosity get the best of you.
- 2:06:59You know what Jesus said about this?
- 2:07:02He said, He said this is my favorite verse in the Bible, He
- 2:07:07said For what does it profit a man who gains the whole world
- 2:07:10and loses his own soul? What do you think about?
- 2:07:16That sounds like someone trying to manipulate the world, but and
- 2:07:21also what do? You think that means?
- 2:07:23It sounds more like he's basically putting a fear tactic
- 2:07:27on people who are trying to discover themselves while also
- 2:07:32putting on a trying to put on some trying to protect.
- 2:07:37But you also have to kind of understand that some people,
- 2:07:40like some people, can really take it differently.
- 2:07:43And sometimes when you say something like that, it can
- 2:07:46actually lead to curiosity. Sometimes it might spark the
- 2:07:48curiosity, Who knows? So I mean, I'm not really sure
- 2:07:53if you're understanding. I just want to make sure you
- 2:07:54understand at least what what he's saying here, 'cause I think
- 2:07:57it's very important. Is that all right if I try to
- 2:08:00explain it? Yeah, no problem.
- 2:08:03So he's saying, for what does a profit a man?
- 2:08:06Meaning what do you gain if you gain the whole world?
- 2:08:10So you literally control the entire world, Everything in the
- 2:08:13world belongs to you. Imagine that.
- 2:08:16And he says, what does it actually profit you if you gain
- 2:08:19the entire world, but you lose your own soul?
- 2:08:23You're saying, What have you gained?
- 2:08:25What I gained is inspiring people to think for themselves,
- 2:08:30even though it might cross my soul.
- 2:08:32But at least I have let people have their own freedom without
- 2:08:37without religious dogma getting into people's head and telling
- 2:08:41people different morality. Like I was talking to Bert.
- 2:08:45We were literally talking about the entire, you know, how
- 2:08:47perspective works and get out like honest opinion on life.
- 2:08:52Like it's not like I like I said, I try to do the best I
- 2:08:55can, to be honest, but it's very hard because everyone has a very
- 2:09:00different perspective and not everyone will agree and that is
- 2:09:05kind of like that's the reality of world is everyone will have
- 2:09:08different perspective and nobody will have the same eye to eye.
- 2:09:13Like you, we have different beliefs, but we're not throwing
- 2:09:17insults and we're not saying I'll be, you know, like that,
- 2:09:20'cause I know you're just speaking hypothetically, but
- 2:09:22it's always good that, you know, understand my perspective.
- 2:09:24And of course, I'm learning your perspective and I've been, you
- 2:09:26know, civil about it. Yeah, absolutely.
- 2:09:29And I really appreciate that. I just want to say that, you
- 2:09:34know what Jesus is implying here is that if you gain the entire
- 2:09:37world and you lose your own soul, you've gained nothing.
- 2:09:41You've lost everything. Because when we die, the only
- 2:09:44thing that we take with us is our soul.
- 2:09:46We don't take any of our earthly possessions.
- 2:09:49We don't take anything with us except our soul.
- 2:09:52And the only thing Jesus is telling us, the only thing that
- 2:09:55matters in this life is where your soul ends up.
- 2:10:00That's the only thing that matters.
- 2:10:02And the only way that our soul is going to end up in the right
- 2:10:06place with God is through Jesus Christ.
- 2:10:09That's what he's saying. You know, Jesus was very
- 2:10:12exclusive. Have you?
- 2:10:14I'm. I'm curious, Have you read any
- 2:10:16of the New Testament? Like the gospel when I was a
- 2:10:20kid, I never really got into the Bibles when I was a kid and.
- 2:10:24I tried to read it. I tried to read it too, when I
- 2:10:26was a teenager. Well, actually, no.
- 2:10:28I think I was like 11 or 12. My dad told me to read the New
- 2:10:31Testament and it's just it, it kind of was like peanuts, you
- 2:10:35know, when the adults are talking and it's like wah, wah,
- 2:10:38wah, wah, wah wah. So that's probably your
- 2:10:42experience too. But as an adult, when I go back
- 2:10:45and I read the Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, the way
- 2:10:49that Jesus dealt with things and the things that he talked about
- 2:10:53and the parables that he tells, that is one epic dude.
- 2:10:59I mean, if he wasn't God, boy, he was about as close as any
- 2:11:03human has ever come to be, as far as I'm concerned.
- 2:11:07Oh, I'll be right back. I'm gonna grab a book.
- 2:11:09I'll be right back. Sure.
- 2:11:11All right. How you been doing today?
- 2:11:14I hope your health is going well.
- 2:11:17Yeah, we had a little fiasco at the house.
- 2:11:21I ended up having to cancel the book, the Bible study I was
- 2:11:24going to do tonight. And then I was like, oh, I
- 2:11:27should go on Brett's show. So here I am.
- 2:11:33The study that I've been doing on Anton Levay has been pretty
- 2:11:37fascinating. I found out that he's got a lot
- 2:11:40of views that I never would have actually imagined him having.
- 2:11:44One of them I was talking to him about earlier was he was fully
- 2:11:48against abortion. Do you know that?
- 2:11:51No, that's that really surprises me because I.
- 2:11:56Spoke out about it. Go ahead.
- 2:11:58Well, my reading on Satanists and Luciferians, it seems like,
- 2:12:05well, and occultists in general in general, right?
- 2:12:08It seems like they're usually very, very pro abortion.
- 2:12:11I mean, like if you study the roots of the feminist movement,
- 2:12:17a lot of those women, the ones that were the movers and
- 2:12:20shakers, were a cultist, like witches and stuff and that type
- 2:12:25of thing. And they're obviously like
- 2:12:27abortion came out of that movement and all those women
- 2:12:30were pro abortion. So I see a lot of correlation
- 2:12:33between occultism, Satanism and abortion.
- 2:12:37So to hear him being against it is very surprising.
- 2:12:41I I wonder if he was vocally against it.
- 2:12:45But really, you know, like behind closed doors, they were
- 2:12:48doing stuff. But who knows, Maybe he really
- 2:12:51was against it. Yeah, right now I have the book
- 2:12:54called The Satanic Testament by Lucifer Lake Gordon.
- 2:12:57I'm on the chapter 274 called Satanism and Abortion.
- 2:13:02And the first chapter goes there is an ongoing debate and
- 2:13:05Satanism on a subject that really should not even be a
- 2:13:09thing, abortion. Now to be honest, there should
- 2:13:11not even be a word that is uttered in any sort of close
- 2:13:17proximity of to Satanism. Yeah, here we are.
- 2:13:20So here let's explore this topic and shed some light upon why
- 2:13:25abortion is a serious no no to real Satanist.
- 2:13:29Now before we begin, let me be very clear.
- 2:13:34Contrary to what? Contradictory to what certain
- 2:13:38pseudo Satanist preach, abortion is directly forbidden to a
- 2:13:43Satanist, with the exception of the most extreme circumstances.
- 2:13:49But what? What makes it so and why?
- 2:13:51Certainly a mother has the right to decide what happens to her
- 2:13:56own body, does she not? And if not, then what rules
- 2:14:01makes it so? To begin, let's address them.
- 2:14:04The actual rules that we can interpret to forbidden abortion
- 2:14:09first is the is simple. Satan represents responsibility
- 2:14:14to to the responsible instead the concern for psychic
- 2:14:18vampires. This is the 6th Satanic
- 2:14:21statement found in the Satanic Bible.
- 2:14:24It basically says that the Satanists will always be
- 2:14:27responsible for their own action and not shrink shirk it off
- 2:14:33their duties and first glance on one many mention of the psychic
- 2:14:38vampires are part of worrying about others are doing.
- 2:14:42However, we can also see this as a reflection of being concerned
- 2:14:47for how others see you. The responsible Satanist would
- 2:14:52logically have no need to worry about what others think of them
- 2:14:57because they would be to focus on doing what they needed to to
- 2:15:03do to do to worry about social social opinions.
- 2:15:08Furthermore, they would know that be being a responsible
- 2:15:13person, there shouldn't be any negative opinions about them.
- 2:15:18So how does this Parton to abortion?
- 2:15:21As Satanist never does anything by accident, this includes
- 2:15:27having sex. This the responsible Satanist
- 2:15:30would will always take measure if they plan to be sexual active
- 2:15:36and not have children. And the modern time this is
- 2:15:40easy. There is a plenty of available
- 2:15:43counteractive on the market nowadays and even free options
- 2:15:48made readily readily available for even the the homeless.
- 2:15:54For those who can't afford their more advanced advice statements,
- 2:15:59I could go on and on, but these are like 1 examples and there's
- 2:16:02actually a Anton. There's actually a part where
- 2:16:06Anton Levay actually had the quote about it, actually.
- 2:16:12I I put a letter by him in the private chat for you guys if you
- 2:16:17want to source. I don't think this is in the
- 2:16:20Satanic Bible, but it's something.
- 2:16:22It's in the Satanic Testament, yeah.
- 2:16:24Yeah, it's a it's a public statement he made.
- 2:16:27It'll surprise you how he he speaks about it there.
- 2:16:30Daniel as well as Mr. Is there something else I can call you?
- 2:16:37Because I don't want to accidentally call you like metal
- 2:16:39ball or anything. Did you just call me blacker?
- 2:16:42All right. Thank you.
- 2:16:43Thank you. Yeah.
- 2:16:47So I'm curious, do you have any thoughts on Aleister Crawley?
- 2:16:53Oh yeah, he's actually one of the most influential of Anton
- 2:16:57Lavey's work, along with Howard, Phillip Lovecraft and Gerald
- 2:17:01Garner. Well, do you think Aleister
- 2:17:06Crawley didn't, like, kill kids and stuff?
- 2:17:10He had a lot of ups and downs, but at the end it's kind of a
- 2:17:14different time at the like, different time.
- 2:17:17And he's part of, like, a lot of different like or like
- 2:17:20different, like secret order, like.
- 2:17:21The Order of the Golden Dawn is one of them.
- 2:17:25There's also a Freemason. And the new Knights Templar as
- 2:17:30well. Yeah.
- 2:17:31What are your thoughts on Freemasons?
- 2:17:35It is a really hard discussion because there's a lot of history
- 2:17:40on the Freemasonry like it could.
- 2:17:42There's so many different history where it came from, but
- 2:17:46I do have suspicions because in my the town I was part like a
- 2:17:50town. I go there is a Freemason
- 2:17:53headquarters there. Yeah, there's pretty much a
- 2:17:57lodge in like the vast majority of towns in America and many
- 2:18:02places, but it's very rarely talked about.
- 2:18:05What do you think they believe? Mostly it's kind of like
- 2:18:11another, like they do believe in a higher deity, they're kind of
- 2:18:16more like deatist, but they took like a lot more inspiration from
- 2:18:21like Christianity into their philosophy.
- 2:18:25And don't forget there's a lot of other secret society like the
- 2:18:27Skull and Bones you have the the Illuminati, etcetera.
- 2:18:32Like like they believe kind of more of a like a different
- 2:18:36higher power, but it's kind of more similar to God.
- 2:18:40They're kind of like a very Gnostics, they are kind of.
- 2:18:44Yeah, Gnostic is a good word for it.
- 2:18:46But to me Gnosticism is pretty much the same thing as Satanism.
- 2:18:52When you distill it, do you not think that's fair?
- 2:18:55It is, yes. And at the time, like there were
- 2:18:59like Gnostic Luciferians, AKA the reversal Christians during
- 2:19:03that time, like that's like a very like, that's kind of the
- 2:19:05one evidence of Satanism. But it's not exactly like that.
- 2:19:09But it's not until the Catholics start doing the witch hunt, and
- 2:19:13that's where they use the term Satanists and Luciferians.
- 2:19:18I mean, do you think that there's like a really relevant
- 2:19:21distinction between a Satanist and a Luciferian?
- 2:19:25It's the way they follow the Luciferians.
- 2:19:28They have like their own separate ways.
- 2:19:30That's some similarities. But most Luciferians, they see
- 2:19:33themselves as like between the light and the dark while and
- 2:19:38they also have kind of a very combination, both like very
- 2:19:41theistic and atheistic perspective.
- 2:19:43While most Satanists like they're way more towards like,
- 2:19:47you know, the Black Flame and more towards, like, you know,
- 2:19:51like more theism compared to Luciferians.
- 2:19:56But there's also, like you have Michael Ford's Luciferianism
- 2:19:59with the Potheus, the ultimate beginner's guide of
- 2:20:02Luciferianism. His is a Americanized version,
- 2:20:05but there's a European version, but it's restricted.
- 2:20:09Yeah, I mean, they're all occultists though, right?
- 2:20:11Is that fair to say? Yes, it's part of the occultist
- 2:20:13philosophy, yes. Yeah, and I mean, it seems like
- 2:20:16all occultism really boils down to like Paganism or Satanism.
- 2:20:20I I think, honestly, Paganism also distills down into
- 2:20:24Satanism. Do you think that's fair?
- 2:20:26It is like Satanism is kind of 1/2 between to Abrahamic and the
- 2:20:31Pagan faith, if we really, if you really look at it, because
- 2:20:36there's actually a video from Lucifer Leigh Gorften that
- 2:20:40actually explains it actually, there's a video on that
- 2:20:44actually. Do you have any thoughts on
- 2:20:46satanic ritual abuse? That was made during the Satanic
- 2:20:53panic and like there's possible that can happen, but most of it
- 2:20:57are fabricated because sometimes it can happen.
- 2:21:01But most of them are. Most of them never read The
- 2:21:05Satanic Ritual by Anton Lavey. That's another book he release.
- 2:21:10And there's also the Black Rimmor, The Red Rimmor.
- 2:21:13That's also another book on ritual as well.
- 2:21:17Well, there's a lot of people that have come out and spoken
- 2:21:21out about it who have multiple personality disorder or they did
- 2:21:26and they're healed now. People that have survived it,
- 2:21:29and I mean based on my reading and researching into it, it
- 2:21:34seems to be a very, very real thing that is happening much
- 2:21:40more regularly than most people would would think.
- 2:21:45Do you not think that's fair? Sometimes like it's possible,
- 2:21:50but sometimes you got to take things with a grain of salt.
- 2:21:53Sometimes, like you may not know.
- 2:21:55Like sometimes you might have to question because sometimes the
- 2:21:58media do like the twist things. Not saying it could possibly
- 2:22:02happen, it's just sometimes you got to take things with a grain
- 2:22:04of salt. All right, folks, we got a guest
- 2:22:08wanting to come in. I'm going to put them on the
- 2:22:11bottom, find out if they're decent, and then we'll continue
- 2:22:13on the conversation. All right.
- 2:22:15Got to make sure this isn't a wild, feral animal.
- 2:22:19Hello. AH, how are you doing?
- 2:22:25AH, you're on the mic. Hello.
- 2:22:28Hello. What is your theological
- 2:22:30position? Far as I can tell, I'm not.
- 2:22:33I can hear you. AH, what's up?
- 2:22:34AH, can you hear us? Hi, do you hear me?
- 2:22:36Can you hear me? Yeah.
- 2:22:39I can hear you. If you don't mind, what is your
- 2:22:42theological? Catholic.
- 2:22:44OK, well welcome to the room and hope you enjoy yourself.
- 2:22:48Loud and clear. Brett.
- 2:22:50All right. All right.
- 2:22:52Continue on, Daniel. I was just, you know, here we're
- 2:22:55just talking about these big fat jumbo and how we're going.
- 2:22:57To keep OK. Thanks.
- 2:23:00Yup. All right, sorry.
- 2:23:04Yeah, but it's all right. I get all the time.
- 2:23:08I get people who pretend as though they're Christians, and
- 2:23:11then when you get them on the mic, they start showing their
- 2:23:13atheist worldview. What are you going to do?
- 2:23:16We got another. What's up with that?
- 2:23:19I I wish I had. I wish I had the ability to cast
- 2:23:22a spell to make it to where atheists don't pose as
- 2:23:25Christians. OK, we got another one called
- 2:23:27Sternberg. Here we go.
- 2:23:29Yep. All right.
- 2:23:30Here we go. Hello.
- 2:23:31Sternberg, how are you? Y'all y'all good.
- 2:23:35Yeah. So what's your theological
- 2:23:37position, Political position? I'm a I'm a kind of a Eastern
- 2:23:42orphanox, Buddhist thing. Political positions.
- 2:23:45Yeah, it says all. Right.
- 2:23:49All right. All right.
- 2:23:51Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
- 2:23:54Yes. There you go.
- 2:23:56I'm sorry. Oh boy.
- 2:23:58They sound like Cyrax. This is literally how Cyrax acts
- 2:24:02all the time. He always says the N word.
- 2:24:04It's so funny. You know, yeah, I told.
- 2:24:06I told you, Daniel, I get some exciting characters.
- 2:24:09Don't I? I have to say, Brett, when you
- 2:24:11said that this happened, I was like, does that really happen?
- 2:24:16He is not bluffing. It actually does happen.
- 2:24:18That's why I was going to laugh at it because it's like bro like
- 2:24:22come on now really. And also Eastern Buddha, Eastern
- 2:24:26like Eastern Orthodox Buddhism, that's combined Eastern Orthodox
- 2:24:30Christianity and Buddhism. Like, how does that even work?
- 2:24:35Yeah, I don't know. And when I heard him, it's like,
- 2:24:36there's no way you're that. I already knew this guy was a
- 2:24:39troll. Just the way he's saying.
- 2:24:41It's like, yeah, you're fluffing up, you motherfucker.
- 2:24:45Yeah, well, sorry that was a distraction to you guys.
- 2:24:49As Oh no, I find it amusing, actually.
- 2:24:51I always kind of find it entertaining, actually, just to
- 2:24:53hear them make an ass on themselves.
- 2:24:55Oh, if we weren't on YouTube, I'd let these people show their
- 2:24:58actual spirit and true colors. I just let them fly and go.
- 2:25:02Is that really how you feel? Tell us how you really feel you.
- 2:25:05Know you've got. I thought I had some haters,
- 2:25:07Brett, but boy, you really, you've got some people that
- 2:25:10really hate your guts. Some of these people actually
- 2:25:13think it's Pornhub or something. They want to come in here and
- 2:25:15show their Ding Dongs to men and titties.
- 2:25:20Dude, I actually had a one time I was at a a local stream yard
- 2:25:24and someone actually put a gay porn on there.
- 2:25:29OK so folks, because of the behaviour that's coming in and
- 2:25:33out, I see a bunch of people popping in.
- 2:25:35Unless I see you on webcam and I can verify that you're a human
- 2:25:39being and not a video loop, you're not getting up on the
- 2:25:42screen, man. I wish this were like Gorbin is
- 2:25:47on here. That'll be a really cool thing
- 2:25:49on there. That'll be like the big, like
- 2:25:51the big bunch right here. Who was he said he would try.
- 2:25:55He he may come in in a little bit, but we are going on 2
- 2:26:00hours, 25 minutes. Go ahead there, Daniel.
- 2:26:02I apologize for the distraction. No, that's all right.
- 2:26:06Who? Who were you talking to?
- 2:26:08That other Satanist? Is that who you were just
- 2:26:10talking about? Yes.
- 2:26:12What's his name? Lucifer Leigh Gorften.
- 2:26:14He's the founder of the STSAK, the Satanic Thulian Society, and
- 2:26:19he's also now the owner of the official Cult of Cthulhu.
- 2:26:23OK, And do you think, does that mean he's a big deal?
- 2:26:26Like, I'm not asking that to be rude.
- 2:26:28I I just don't know. Oh yeah, mostly.
- 2:26:31Well, he mostly to the people on the outside forces like the
- 2:26:35Church of Satan and the and the Satanic Temple.
- 2:26:39Oh yeah, let's just say he is kind of a big target to them.
- 2:26:44Interesting. Don't believe me?
- 2:26:46Ask Bert. Yeah, if you keep coming in,
- 2:26:51then you'll get you'll get an opportunity to talk to him.
- 2:26:53He's a very respectful person. And very respectful, very open
- 2:26:57minded, very intelligent guy. Like like.
- 2:26:59I try to do the best I can, but his knowledge level is higher
- 2:27:03than me. Well, well, I listened to the
- 2:27:07show that you did with him, Brett, and I thought it was
- 2:27:09really interesting. Unfortunately I wasn't able to
- 2:27:12join and then when you were on his show, I was trying to join
- 2:27:15but he didn't seem to be in a very good mood that night, so.
- 2:27:19I would definitely have to. There was a lot of trolls going
- 2:27:21on. Yeah, that's unfortunate.
- 2:27:24And like this other guy. Doing his show, it was his first
- 2:27:28time I actually had to teach him how stream yards works and he
- 2:27:33was nervous on who to allow up because he was also being
- 2:27:36attacked viciously by people so. Yeah, I apologize, Troll this
- 2:27:42this Christ for sword guy. And I was like trying to explain
- 2:27:45it, but he just won't listen. It was kind of funny because I
- 2:27:48was basically kind of trolling him as well all.
- 2:27:51Right. I'm going to give one more
- 2:27:52person an opportunity. If you scream anything, you'll
- 2:27:55be banned and you'll never have the opportunity to talk again.
- 2:27:59But if you want to have fun, just join the conversation.
- 2:28:01Troll lightly. All right, No screaming.
- 2:28:05All right. What's your story there, Mr.
- 2:28:08Wayne Peppa? This is Reverend Wayne Peppa and
- 2:28:12as your friend. Yeah, I knew he was gonna.
- 2:28:15Do it. I knew it.
- 2:28:17I was like, oh shit, here we go again.
- 2:28:18OK, that's going to be it for a little while unless I recognize
- 2:28:22your name. I appreciate all the people
- 2:28:24coming in, but unfortunately some of our little party poopers
- 2:28:27who ruined it for some continue on.
- 2:28:30Gentlemen, I am going to go quiet for a while and let you
- 2:28:32guys just talk. That's not a little religion
- 2:28:36that just talk about the behavior these people are
- 2:28:38talking, because I think it's more interesting than how they
- 2:28:40are acting honestly. I feel like.
- 2:28:43I feel like we should probably focus on Is the trolls right
- 2:28:46now, 'cause I think we talked religion for a long time.
- 2:28:48That's just changed the subject 'cause this is like the funniest
- 2:28:51shit I'm hearing right now. Well, I don't think anybody else
- 2:28:54is going to be coming on and doing that for a while.
- 2:28:56I know another thing I like to research on is locales.
- 2:29:01Those are, it's a term for people on the online.
- 2:29:03Basically what they'll do is like really like frenetic
- 2:29:07behavior online, thinking, you know, like they're going to be
- 2:29:10this top, top dog. But the reality is they're
- 2:29:12delusional. They're getting milk for money.
- 2:29:16Locales huh? Here I'm going to present a
- 2:29:20video. I'm going to talk about the
- 2:29:22most, like, the most trolled person.
- 2:29:23Let's see, Christian. I want everything.
- 2:29:28Yeah, you were telling me about that person earlier.
- 2:29:31He seems to get a lot of excitement in his genre, huh?
- 2:29:37I'm going to. I'm going to 1st.
- 2:29:40You know, I I man, I do really want to ask you something.
- 2:29:43I know you said you wanted to stop talking about religion, but
- 2:29:46can can I ask you one other thing real quick about it, about
- 2:29:48all this? Sure.
- 2:29:50That guy, Lucifer. That's yeah.
- 2:29:53Lucifer Lake Gorgon. Yes.
- 2:29:55Lucifer Lake Gorgon. He says that he experienced when
- 2:29:59he was like 5 or 6 a kid if I remember correctly.
- 2:30:03I'm pretty sure I do. He says that he knows that
- 2:30:06Yahweh is is true and that Christianity is true.
- 2:30:11Yeah, the way he's saying it though, like what he's really
- 2:30:15saying it though is like, yeah, he did does acknowledge about
- 2:30:17the belief, but the way he see God though, that's a different
- 2:30:21experience what he was talking about.
- 2:30:23Yeah, but I mean, he's saying that Christianity is true
- 2:30:26though, right? Yes, but he's did, yeah, he did
- 2:30:30mention that. Yes.
- 2:30:31When I'm kind of saying like yes it is true, but I was kind of
- 2:30:35take a hypothetical, kind of like you know, get more you, you
- 2:30:39know what I'm talking. About right I mean, but if
- 2:30:42Christian is true then that that means that Jesus really did go
- 2:30:45to the cross and die for our sins.
- 2:30:47Yes, he did, yes. Right.
- 2:30:49Yes. And conquer death.
- 2:30:54And what he said about hell we should.
- 2:30:56I mean, shouldn't we take his word for it?
- 2:31:00No, we don't have to. I mean, I get the feeling that
- 2:31:05whether he was telling the truth about Hell or not, you don't.
- 2:31:08You don't care that much? No.
- 2:31:10No, I'm not afraid. You're not afraid, don't you
- 2:31:14think? Maybe if you ended up there, you
- 2:31:15might be like, gosh, I was an idiot.
- 2:31:18I don't be like, Oh well, I don't mind getting tortured.
- 2:31:20Just just fucking do it. I don't think you're gonna think
- 2:31:26that, but all right. I mean, that's really
- 2:31:30interesting though, You know that this is, I mean, do you, do
- 2:31:35you view like Christianity as your enemy or?
- 2:31:40It depends on individuals. Like the only enemies I see are
- 2:31:46the fundamentalist Christians. The one like the evangelicals
- 2:31:49are like pushing, you know, religion onto people's throat.
- 2:31:53Well, like with you, you're a bit more open minded, are
- 2:31:56willing to ask questions. You're not the enemy, but the
- 2:31:58ones who are pushy, yes. Well, I was an atheist until I
- 2:32:03was 28, so I tend to be a bit more open minded.
- 2:32:08Although I am a fundamentalist, I believe that the Bible is
- 2:32:10true, but I am able to respect other people who don't share my
- 2:32:17beliefs because I mean, I know even to a lot of Christians I
- 2:32:21have maybe heretical beliefs and that type of thing.
- 2:32:25You know, 'cause like some Christians are Calvinists and
- 2:32:28I'm not, you know, and Catholics definitely feel pretty strongly
- 2:32:33about the fact that I'm not a Catholic, you know?
- 2:32:35So it's just one of those things you can't please everybody and.
- 2:32:39Exactly like me. I'm not trying to please you,
- 2:32:41I'm just trying to give my perspective.
- 2:32:43Yeah. Exactly.
- 2:32:44Anyway, anyway, this is here's the video I'm going to show you
- 2:32:48Guys, this is not even the start of the Captain's Log
- 2:32:52introduction. Hey guys, this is dead serious.
- 2:32:56Inside and outside tour I did a few months ago on my house,
- 2:32:59everyone on the Internet. My mother and my father are
- 2:33:02angry at me. They're climbing at me.
- 2:33:04It's my fault. I am it.
- 2:33:06It's my fault. I want everything about my House
- 2:33:11of the Internet. I'll send in the Teds.
- 2:33:14I'll send in police. I'll send in everything in my
- 2:33:16power that get off the Internet. Me.
- 2:33:18Listen to me, Listen to me. Yes.
- 2:33:24Shut that God damn thing. Off.
- 2:33:29I don't care what you do. You get all that stuff off of
- 2:33:33there tonight. I'm working on it.
- 2:33:36Go work on it. I am.
- 2:33:37Or you realize. Do you realize something?
- 2:33:41Let me tell you, if the health department, if the Greene County
- 2:33:46sees those videos that you put on the damn Internet, they could
- 2:33:51condemn our house, we would have.
- 2:33:57To move out of it, we got to be what?
- 2:34:00That God damn stuff off What is up?
- 2:34:04We got to be careful and what clips we actually play because
- 2:34:07if we don't want to get copyright.
- 2:34:10That's right, yeah, forgot we taste some Smokey, uses Clip and
- 2:34:18they're like very well known, like bull cow commentators.
- 2:34:23Right, right. But you see, you say a lot of
- 2:34:27people hate this person. They're coming after him, right?
- 2:34:30Oh yeah, 'cause what he had done is pretty notorious.
- 2:34:33And Oh yeah, 'cause he, like what he did to his mother was
- 2:34:36pretty messed up. He basically did an incestual
- 2:34:39relationship with his mother. Yeah, I could.
- 2:34:43I could unfortunately get in a lot of trouble for playing that.
- 2:34:46As you can see, I've got some award-winning fans out there.
- 2:34:49Watch the show. QA tapes, Smokey MCC.
- 2:34:55They commented on a lot of infamous people like Cyrax is
- 2:34:58another one, The white Bowser, he was a very recent locale, got
- 2:35:02trouble and he actually went out the day too high for stupid
- 2:35:06podcast. So like every locale is like
- 2:35:08they're always been like a common ground top because
- 2:35:10they're always easy to exploit. Can you do me a favor?
- 2:35:15You were. We you and I were talking
- 2:35:17earlier about what your concept of hell is.
- 2:35:19You actually do believe that you will go to some form of hell,
- 2:35:24but you believe that the torment comes from the consciousness.
- 2:35:27I don't know if Daniel got to hear that before he came in.
- 2:35:31Would you like to explain it to him a little bit?
- 2:35:34So yeah, well, Lucifer Lake, Gordon mentioned, is like,
- 2:35:38there's actually, there's a chapter in the Satanic Testament
- 2:35:43that did talk about, you know, how like Hell is like, it's kind
- 2:35:48of more like about the Dante's Inferno hell.
- 2:35:52So what he was explaining about is when you die, you're
- 2:35:57basically in like a black void, but your own demon is your
- 2:36:02subconscious. And what that is, it's telling
- 2:36:05you you forgot something. You like you did something in
- 2:36:08the past. You have to acknowledge to
- 2:36:11basically have your own torture. But we need to acknowledge
- 2:36:13there's two things you can do. One is you could be reincarnated
- 2:36:17or travel to the city of Dis. Daniel, are you familiar with a
- 2:36:23game called Oblivion? It sounds familiar.
- 2:36:27I definitely haven't played it, but I believe I've heard of it.
- 2:36:31It's well, Oblivion is there, the video games concept of Hell.
- 2:36:36And basically, it says that the souls will be tormented by their
- 2:36:40own regrets, their own hopelessness, the things that
- 2:36:43they did while they were alive. It's kind of similar to if if.
- 2:36:47I hope that doesn't offend you, but there's a similarity to it,
- 2:36:50as you probably notice. Yeah, I could definitely see it
- 2:36:56being that way. I I think it's going to be that
- 2:36:59and worse probably. I mean, obviously I hope not,
- 2:37:02but I don't want anybody go to hell, you know?
- 2:37:06And I have my worst enemy. Not that I have any enemies, but
- 2:37:09if I did, I still wouldn't want them to go to hell.
- 2:37:14So. I definitely have plenty of
- 2:37:17enemies myself. I didn't ask for any of them.
- 2:37:19They probably have a bunch of wonderful places they wouldn't
- 2:37:22send me. Yeah.
- 2:37:24Yeah, you know, I was, I was just looking at how many people
- 2:37:26have blocked me on Twitter and it's like 2000 and I've blocked
- 2:37:30like 30 or 40. 2000 goodness gracious.
- 2:37:37Yeah, I'm very loved, yeah. But the the atheists that stick
- 2:37:42around, I grow on them. You know, I either either people
- 2:37:46just block me or or, you know, start engaging.
- 2:37:49Eventually, you know someone will come around.
- 2:37:53For sure. For sure.
- 2:37:54Do you do you have a Twitter account?
- 2:37:57I don't really like using Twitter that much, like I just
- 2:38:00don't usually use social media. Oh, OK.
- 2:38:03You know. I I enjoy Twitter a lot.
- 2:38:06I have a lot of fun there. You can.
- 2:38:08Like I only use it just kind of like just scroll, see what's you
- 2:38:11know going on and it's like app call a day.
- 2:38:16Yeah, I really enjoy Twitter. It was an app that was made for
- 2:38:21me, 'cause I can use GIFs and memes and post threads.
- 2:38:26I think it's a wonderful app and you can just talk to people.
- 2:38:29I mean, that's one of the really cool things.
- 2:38:31You can meet a lot of people on there, you know, like even
- 2:38:35people that you wouldn't normally have a chance of, like
- 2:38:37talking to. Mm hmm.
- 2:38:40I actually got to talk to Saiten Brugenkate today.
- 2:38:44Please. Sure not.
- 2:38:46Do you guys know who that is? I'll say the name again.
- 2:38:50I'm sorry, I'm deaf in my left ear at the moment.
- 2:38:53Saiten Brugenkate. You might know Brett.
- 2:38:55Yes, yes. He's talked about the deformity
- 2:38:58of nature as well as how do we reason without being able to
- 2:39:02appeal to God? Very good arguments.
- 2:39:05Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I actually used to hate
- 2:39:10him. I mean, maybe not hate, but very
- 2:39:13much. Just like when I was an atheist.
- 2:39:16And then I, you know, it's funny how things change.
- 2:39:20And I actually got to talk to him today, and now we're mutuals
- 2:39:23on Twitter and we were talking to DMS and stuff and he might
- 2:39:26even come into a space with me here in a few weeks, which would
- 2:39:30be really cool. So yeah, it's just funny how how
- 2:39:36things change and everything, 'cause I used to hear his
- 2:39:38arguments as an atheist and I was like, these are terrible,
- 2:39:42he's lying, so. Just like how the Church of
- 2:39:47Satan is doing to basically Bert and Lucifila Gorbdon, so.
- 2:39:53Who's bigger? Who has more members, you guys
- 2:39:55or the Church of Satan? That is kind of hard because the
- 2:39:59Church of Satan they don't do, they don't count their
- 2:40:02membership that much. So it's really hard to know
- 2:40:06because some half of the member, like during the schism of 75, a
- 2:40:10lot of Michael Aquino took some of his members, took some of the
- 2:40:14members of Church of Satan to form the Temple of Set.
- 2:40:16Then Anton Lavey's daughter Carla took also some of the
- 2:40:20member after she found out what. Her father's legacy is being
- 2:40:24turned into thanks to Peter H Gilmore and formed the First
- 2:40:29Satanic Church. So it's like a lot of people
- 2:40:31come and go. In fact, one of the Grotto
- 2:40:33master was actually a former member of the Church of Satan as
- 2:40:37well, and Burt knows who I'm talking about.
- 2:40:42Do you mind explaining what a grotto I I don't know if that's
- 2:40:46how you pronounced it, Master. What it's.
- 2:40:48Grotto sounds like a headquarters, like one of the
- 2:40:50headquarters of the state. It's like the main one of the
- 2:40:53main headquarters because there's some like the Texas, the
- 2:40:56South Carolina's the main headquarter in South Carolina.
- 2:41:00But we have like Texas, New England, Tennessee, Kansas, the
- 2:41:06Illinois one, like the like I was for the Illinois one.
- 2:41:10But that one's got like a long story to talk about.
- 2:41:14I got a question for you. You looked into things like
- 2:41:20Jeffrey Epstein and the elites and all that.
- 2:41:24Oh yeah. And what do you think they're
- 2:41:28all about? No, let's just say they just
- 2:41:34like to 'cause they just like to cause chaos.
- 2:41:38What do you think their worldview is?
- 2:41:41Now let's just say death and destruction just like any other
- 2:41:45people in general, no matter what you are, who you are,
- 2:41:48Disillusion. Disillusion of basically
- 2:41:51illusions. Some people say, you know, oh
- 2:41:54God, tell me to do it. Or Satan told me to do it like
- 2:41:57anyone can follow that. So why, I'm wondering, do you
- 2:42:04think that they are like some type of Satanist or Luciferian?
- 2:42:07Because like when you look at the island of Epstein, he had a
- 2:42:12bull there with horns and with others, which represents the
- 2:42:17merging right of male and female, which is very occultic.
- 2:42:21And his temple, you know, and the the statues look very Pagan.
- 2:42:25Do you know what I'm talking about?
- 2:42:27Oh yeah, that's true, but but sometimes it could also mean
- 2:42:31other things too. But it's also probably for the
- 2:42:35aesthetics sometimes, because not everyone follows that and
- 2:42:39some just kind of follow their own version cause ever.
- 2:42:42Like each Satanist have their different perspective, like
- 2:42:45Levain Satanists have their own. They're also the reactive
- 2:42:48Satanists, like the ones that really takes the interpretation
- 2:42:51of the Bible of Satan very serious.
- 2:42:54And some, and there's some like myself, we see Satan
- 2:42:58differently. So it literally depends how
- 2:43:01other people see it, because some may not agree because hell,
- 2:43:06even we might have a war about it.
- 2:43:08Well, I'm just kind of curious. Do you think that some Satanists
- 2:43:14are like really just evil? You know, like Jeffrey Epstein
- 2:43:17and those Types and Aleister Crowley.
- 2:43:21Well, there is actually some Neo Nazi organization like the Order
- 2:43:25of the 9 Angle, the joyous Satan ministry, and the Black One.
- 2:43:31Yeah, what about the cult of Saturn?
- 2:43:37That was like around way that was during before World War 2
- 2:43:40even broke out and they followed like Saturn the the God Saturn.
- 2:43:46Yeah, but isn't that supposed to be a representation of Satan?
- 2:43:51Everyone could say you know Saturn set Cthulhu.
- 2:43:55It's their own perspective like some say that so it like it
- 2:43:59depends. It's like.
- 2:44:00Different names for Rose though, isn't it?
- 2:44:04Yes. Yeah.
- 2:44:07So do you think that Hitler was a Satanist?
- 2:44:12No, he was a full edged atheist. He believed in the Iranian race.
- 2:44:16In fact, he is a cause 'cause. If you're living in a socialist
- 2:44:20country, and especially like communism, religion isn't
- 2:44:24allowed. You had to be a full ledge
- 2:44:25atheist. Well, I heard he had a Helena
- 2:44:30Blavatsky's book on his night shelf.
- 2:44:33Have you never heard that? He like he always like he's a
- 2:44:37he's like fascinated with the occult, but he never really
- 2:44:40practiced the occult. I mean the whole idea, I mean
- 2:44:46I'm just telling you my thoughts based on my research, but my
- 2:44:50understanding is that a lot of the symbols that he used were
- 2:44:54occultic. And the whole idea of like a
- 2:44:57Third Reich and the Aryan race and everything like came from
- 2:45:00Helena Blavatsky and occultism, I mean seems like and and he was
- 2:45:05also doing mind control stuff, which comes from the occult
- 2:45:08families, who really were the first ones to be doing that.
- 2:45:12And then it seems like the Nazis kind of made it into a science
- 2:45:15and then we brought a bunch of them over here in Operation
- 2:45:18Paper clip. But I'm just trying to say that
- 2:45:21it seems like seems like Hitler was more than fascinated with
- 2:45:27the occult because he was literally like putting into
- 2:45:31practice occult ideas like the Aryan race becoming supreme and
- 2:45:36stuff like that. Would you disagree with that?
- 2:45:39I say I would really would because I also said they with
- 2:45:42the swastika that was actually a Buddhist symbol for peace.
- 2:45:46So a lot of these symbols were pasteurized by Hitler.
- 2:45:50And not only that because if you really look at the the paragraph
- 2:45:54right there, this is exactly what he was talking about.
- 2:45:56A lot of atheists would say Hitler was a Christian and say
- 2:46:01like that. But I know in fact he is a full
- 2:46:03edged atheist. Even the TIC history even used
- 2:46:07the term volkish very lightly because he even knows that you
- 2:46:11know Hitler wasn't really that like didn't really practice the
- 2:46:15occult because some people will make claims thanks to the
- 2:46:17Stalinist, the Marxist socialist, all that stuff.
- 2:46:22Because a lot of like as if you live like China and they found
- 2:46:26out that you're a Christian because look what they're doing
- 2:46:28to the Uyghurs there. They are actually exterminating
- 2:46:31Uyghurs because they're different.
- 2:46:33And because in communism, religion isn't allowed.
- 2:46:36And to be part of the CCP, you have to be a foolish atheist to
- 2:46:40be part of the CCP as well. Interesting.
- 2:46:45I mean, I'm if Hitler was in the occult, would you want to admit
- 2:46:50it or would you be like, I don't really want that, you know,
- 2:46:53like. It's kind of like very like.
- 2:46:57It's very debatable because so because everything evolves like
- 2:47:02because sometimes because like it called can even sometimes the
- 2:47:05cultism do evolve sometimes like it does evolve and become
- 2:47:09something better than it was before.
- 2:47:12Sending with Christianity, like it evolves too.
- 2:47:15Judaism, Islam, all that stuff were the evolution always been a
- 2:47:20thing, It always has been. And we're still evolving still
- 2:47:24to this day. Yeah, but what I'm saying is, to
- 2:47:28me it seems like the evidence that Hitler was actually an
- 2:47:32occultist seems pretty strong. And it seems strange that you're
- 2:47:37saying he was like, not an occultist, he was just
- 2:47:40fascinated with the occult. I mean, usually when people are
- 2:47:42fascinated with something they're they're usually into it,
- 2:47:47you know, I mean, so it just seems strange that that you're.
- 2:47:51Saying like in it, even though like if you're fascinated, but
- 2:47:56if you but some people don't practice it.
- 2:47:58Because I know some people because I know there's a lot of
- 2:48:01like people who read about Satanism are fascinated by the
- 2:48:05philosophy they didn't practice. I know some people are are like
- 2:48:09that and I know that for sure. What do you think real magic is?
- 2:48:15Well, actually, let me tell you what I think magic is, and you
- 2:48:18tell me if you you agree or not. So my understanding of magic at
- 2:48:24its core essence is you're essentially doing something for
- 2:48:29it's the supernatural world in the hopes that they will do
- 2:48:34something for you in this world, help you to get something that
- 2:48:37you desire. So basically you're doing
- 2:48:41something, some type of sacrifice or or whatever, some
- 2:48:46type of service for them that they like, and then they will do
- 2:48:49something to help you get something that you want here in
- 2:48:54the material world. Would you agree with that or no?
- 2:48:56It's like tapping into the supernatural to get what you
- 2:48:58want. Like that is actually a really
- 2:49:01good question because in fact in one of the 11 satanic rules is
- 2:49:06do not harm non humanoid animals unless it's for food or for
- 2:49:11self-defense. Now when I read the Satanic
- 2:49:13Testament, is it if you're going to do a sacrifice you're at
- 2:49:18least doing it for survival. So let's say if you buy a cow,
- 2:49:23and if you know you need food, if you had to kill that cow for
- 2:49:26food, you'll do it. Or if you're out in the woods
- 2:49:29and you had to kill a wild bear that's about to come and attack
- 2:49:33you and kill and self-defense. That's sometimes the kind of
- 2:49:35term is sacrifice. But also sacrifice means like
- 2:49:39giving up on something to pursue your own goal.
- 2:49:42Like some of your hobbies, you could sacrifice that hobby to
- 2:49:45pursue that goal for you. May I ask you something real
- 2:49:49quick? You you said that you're not
- 2:49:52supposed to harm anyone unless they cause you hostility first,
- 2:49:56right? Yes.
- 2:49:57Well it isn't. The legacy tag rules is.
- 2:49:59If someone is bothering you, tell them to stop.
- 2:50:03But they don't stop you destroy them.
- 2:50:06Well, let me let me ask you a hypothetical real quick and then
- 2:50:09I'm gonna leave you guys to continue on the conversation.
- 2:50:12Just letting you know it's it's kind of get a little late, so I
- 2:50:15might hop off because I'm kind of get a little tired.
- 2:50:18All right. Well, I appreciate you coming in
- 2:50:21and hanging out with us. I really enjoyed your comment.
- 2:50:24Because I'm not handling it. It's because I'm tired.
- 2:50:26There's a you know what I'm talking.
- 2:50:28About oh, I understand. I'm absolutely tired myself.
- 2:50:31I just love hanging out with you guys.
- 2:50:32What am I going to do about that?
- 2:50:34But got one last question. And then if you guys want to
- 2:50:37continue to talk, it's up to you.
- 2:50:39You just let me know when you guys are done.
- 2:50:41My hypothetical is this. You and your family find
- 2:50:45yourself in them a bad economic way where you're hurting and you
- 2:50:49can't get groceries, but you know that there's a little old
- 2:50:53woman that lives up on a hill out in the woods all by herself
- 2:50:55that has tons of money and a treasure box right next to her
- 2:51:00front door. What would stop you from going
- 2:51:02up there and getting what you need in order to take care of
- 2:51:05those you love and care about? What would be morally wrong with
- 2:51:09just killing her and taking it and nobody ever finds how it
- 2:51:12happened? There is an also another one in
- 2:51:15the satanic rules is like don't steal something that isn't
- 2:51:20yours. It's better off just to go
- 2:51:23hunting and learn to do agricultural stuff so that way
- 2:51:26you can produce your own food and more livestock and learn to
- 2:51:30do like kind of farming instead of going around, you know,
- 2:51:34stealing. Unless you literally have no
- 2:51:37choice. Unless you're really starving to
- 2:51:39death, then you have no choice. But at least you can make a
- 2:51:44pardon deal kind of A50 split kind of negotiation.
- 2:51:49All right, Well, I appreciate your intellectual honesty.
- 2:51:53You guys can continue if you want to.
- 2:51:54Let me know when you're ready to finish.
- 2:51:57I'm already got ready to finish, just let you know.
- 2:52:01Yeah, I got to get going too, man.
- 2:52:04My wife wasn't even expecting me to do this tonight, so I'm
- 2:52:07already going to be in the doghouse a bit, but skin light
- 2:52:12too, so. Hey, it's nice talking to you
- 2:52:16Daniel, even though we may not have St.
- 2:52:17Police. But it's a nice talking to you
- 2:52:19though. I totally agree, man.
- 2:52:21Hopefully we can talk again sometime.
- 2:52:23I would say you should come follow me on Twitter and I'll
- 2:52:25follow you back, but you're not on there very much so.
- 2:52:29Yeah, I might not just. I don't even like using Twitter.
- 2:52:31So just saying. It's been nice meeting you
- 2:52:34though. Yeah, nice.
- 2:52:36Meeting you as well, man. So, gentlemen, Friday 7:00 PM
- 2:52:39Central. I'll be doing another show.
- 2:52:41I'm going to try providing I'm not dead or absolutely sick.
- 2:52:45I will do a show every Monday, every Friday at 7:00 PM Central.
- 2:52:50The link will always be in the public and anytime you 2
- 2:52:54gentlemen want to come in, you're always welcome.
- 2:52:57Thank you for coming in and spending time with me.
- 2:53:00Welcome Brad, and I hope you feel better, man.
- 2:53:03I'll be praying for you. Yep.
- 2:53:05You've just get some rest there, brother, right?
- 2:53:09I appreciate you guys help. You're welcome, right
- 2:53:44the. The
- 2:54:41None. The.