Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Before the Island: The Real Origin of the Governments Jeffrey Epstein Failure (Part 2)
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- 0:04Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:07Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we
- 0:11Speaker 1: left off in the last episode, talking about the corrupt
- 0:15Speaker 1: nature of the Epstein investigation from the very beginning. This
- 0:20Speaker 1: article was published by NBC News and once again the
- 0:24Speaker 1: authors are Sarah Fitzpatrick and Rich Shapiro. Epstein, who had
- 0:29Speaker 1: a massive bankroll and extensive connections, had assembled the high
- 0:33Speaker 1: powered team of lawyers including Kenneth Starr, Alan Dershowitz, Jack Goldberger,
- 0:37Speaker 1: and Jay Lefkowitz. Around the time, writer said, the investigation
- 0:42Speaker 1: took another strange turn. Epstein's defense team seemed to know
- 0:46Speaker 1: details about the probe before they were made public. Oh
- 0:49Speaker 1: I wonder how that happened. I'm sure it had nothing
- 0:51Speaker 1: to do with people on the high giving Jeffrey Epstein's
- 0:55Speaker 1: lawyers information. Right, that would never happen. That would be
- 0:58Speaker 1: way out of bounds. So why was Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers
- 1:02Speaker 1: having meetings with high ranking officials from the DOJ? Everybody
- 1:06Speaker 1: wants to talk about Alex Acosta, But bro, you really
- 1:09Speaker 1: think Acosta made this decision? You think Acosta was the guy?
- 1:13Speaker 1: Zero chance he was given marching orders and he marched
- 1:17Speaker 1: to the tune that the DOJ was playing, because I
- 1:20Speaker 1: assure you that any deal that's getting cut, any kind
- 1:23Speaker 1: of serious situation that's involving somebody like Epstein, who has
- 1:28Speaker 1: donated so much money, who is so connected politically, that's
- 1:32Speaker 1: not a decision that some mid level prosecutor in Florida
- 1:35Speaker 1: is going to make. Now, he can have recommendations, and
- 1:38Speaker 1: he can go to his bosses and say, look, this
- 1:40Speaker 1: is what I want to do, but the bosses ultimately
- 1:43Speaker 1: have to sign off on it. So if you're out
- 1:45Speaker 1: here blaming alex Acosta, congratulations, you fell for it. And
- 1:49Speaker 1: whoever Epstein's handlers are, they thank you for it. We
- 1:55Speaker 1: believe that the content of our probable cause affid David eventually,
- 1:58Speaker 1: sometime after we presented it to the State Attorney's office,
- 2:02Speaker 1: ended up with the defense attorneys. Writer said, because minute
- 2:06Speaker 1: details that nobody else knew that were in those documents
- 2:09Speaker 1: were being refuted and contrary information provided by the defense.
- 2:13Speaker 1: The whole last thing was tilted from the beginning. And remember,
- 2:17Speaker 1: they were doing all of this to protect a guy
- 2:18Speaker 1: that was accused of molesting little girls. And when we're
- 2:23Speaker 1: talking about palm beach. That's what we're talking about. Don't
- 2:26Speaker 1: get it conflated. We're not talking about nineteen twenty year
- 2:29Speaker 1: old girls. We're not talking about eighteen year old girls.
- 2:33Speaker 1: We're talking about girls in high school fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, maybe.
- 2:39Speaker 1: But when Epstein was up to this bullshit with the
- 2:41Speaker 1: high schools, he liked them young, and when the girls
- 2:43Speaker 1: would age out, what he would do is have them
- 2:46Speaker 1: go and recruit girls for them, and the girls themselves,
- 2:50Speaker 1: they didn't know any better. Sixteen seventeen years old, some
- 2:54Speaker 1: guy says, bring some friends over to give me a massage.
- 2:58Speaker 1: And to these girls that sounded like a great idea. Oh,
- 3:00Speaker 1: I can go make a couple hundred bucks and give
- 3:02Speaker 1: this guy a massage. Until they got there and he
- 3:05Speaker 1: started molesting them. But the whole entire network, the infrastructure
- 3:09Speaker 1: was built to make that seem normal, so that when
- 3:12Speaker 1: the girls will come over and get a massage and
- 3:15Speaker 1: then Epstein would do his bullshit, they talk to their
- 3:17Speaker 1: friends and their friends would be like, oh, he does
- 3:19Speaker 1: that to me too. So in the girl's mind, remember
- 3:22Speaker 1: we're talking about kids here, in her mind, it's like, well,
- 3:24Speaker 1: if all my friends are doing it, then it must
- 3:26Speaker 1: be okay. But as we all know, nothing about this
- 3:30Speaker 1: was okay. And the fact that this dirtbag was getting
- 3:33Speaker 1: inside information is just unbelievable to me. And the fact
- 3:37Speaker 1: that more people don't talk about it is wild. I mean,
- 3:42Speaker 1: if you want to get down to it, you got
- 3:43Speaker 1: to start at the beginning, right the origin story. And
- 3:46Speaker 1: the origin story when we're talking about Jeffrey Epstein's bullshit,
- 3:49Speaker 1: most certainly begins in Palm Beach. And this guy was
- 3:54Speaker 1: abusing high school girls. Remember we're not talking about oh,
- 3:57Speaker 1: this girl looked nineteen. Stein knew that these girls were underage,
- 4:02Speaker 1: and that's exactly what he wanted. But yet somebody in
- 4:05Speaker 1: the federal government decided they wanted to protect them. Ask yourself,
- 4:09Speaker 1: why why, Jeffrey Epstein? Why pull out all the stops
- 4:13Speaker 1: for a man who is accused of crimes against children?
- 4:16Speaker 1: It makes zero sense. This is the kind of guy
- 4:19Speaker 1: that you usually try to put underneath the prison, unless,
- 4:22Speaker 1: of course, he has friends and money. This writer said,
- 4:27Speaker 1: never happened to me before in my career. I don't
- 4:30Speaker 1: doubt it. How many times are you dealing with somebody
- 4:33Speaker 1: like Jeffrey Epstein? Imagine dealing with somebody like this as
- 4:37Speaker 1: the chief, and all this stuff starts happening, and you're
- 4:41Speaker 1: saying to yourself, look, I'm just trying to engage an
- 4:44Speaker 1: investigation here and bring down a child molester. Meanwhile, I
- 4:47Speaker 1: got the federal government, state prosecutors, everyone breaking my chops
- 4:51Speaker 1: and folks. Unfortunately, this is just a tip of the iceberg.
- 4:55Speaker 1: When you start digging into Epstein and what he was
- 4:57Speaker 1: up to, it runs deep as fuck. And that's why
- 5:00Speaker 1: I find it offensive when you have the President of
- 5:03Speaker 1: the United States out here talking about move on. We
- 5:06Speaker 1: haven't even figured out the basics yet when it comes
- 5:09Speaker 1: to who was involved as far as behind the scenes.
- 5:13Speaker 1: One thing we do know though, is there are people involved.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Stuff like this doesn't just happen. This wasn't a mistake.
- 5:20Speaker 1: Somebody didn't just wake up one morning and say, you
- 5:22Speaker 1: know what, let's protect Jeffrey Epstein. There was motivation there.
- 5:27Speaker 1: Question is what was that motivation and who was providing
- 5:31Speaker 1: that motivation. Writer was so frustrated that he took the
- 5:35Speaker 1: unusual step of asking the state Attorney Barry Krisher, to
- 5:39Speaker 1: remove himself from the case, citing the office highly unusual
- 5:42Speaker 1: treatment of the investigation. The man investigating the case, asked
- 5:47Speaker 1: for the state attorney to be removed because he felt
- 5:50Speaker 1: like there was impropriety. He felt like somebody in the
- 5:53Speaker 1: state attorney's office or federal government was feeding Jeffrey Epstein information.
- 5:58Speaker 1: And when that didn't work, the police chief turned his
- 6:01Speaker 1: evidence over to the FBI, and they said, this is
- 6:04Speaker 1: an easy case. This is a horrific situation. We'll put
- 6:09Speaker 1: him away for the rest of his life. Writer recalled,
- 6:11Speaker 1: and that's what the US attorney assistant US attorney told
- 6:15Speaker 1: us as well. So it was an easy case until
- 6:18Speaker 1: it wasn't. Huh. It was an easy case until Mukasey
- 6:22Speaker 1: and Philippe called you and said, look, that's the end
- 6:24Speaker 1: of that. Kill this shit. Kick this back down to
- 6:27Speaker 1: the state level. Get us out of it, because we
- 6:30Speaker 1: don't want to rock the boat. The last thing we
- 6:32Speaker 1: want is some unnamed spoot kicking in our door and
- 6:36Speaker 1: telling us that they better back off of Jeffrey Epstein.
- 6:39Speaker 1: I mean, what other excuse can there be? The Fact
- 6:43Speaker 1: that Jeffrey Epstein was being handled by the very very
- 6:46Speaker 1: top brass at the DOJ should tell you everything you
- 6:49Speaker 1: need to know. But writers renewed enthusiasm didn't last long.
- 6:53Speaker 1: In time, it became clear that the federal probe was
- 6:56Speaker 1: also stalling. Though he believes the FBI agents were invested
- 7:00Speaker 1: did in the case. I believe that this was a
- 7:03Speaker 1: decision made by brass, point blank, period, nobody else. Writer
- 7:09Speaker 1: arranged to meet face to face with the prosecutor in
- 7:12Speaker 1: charge of the case, US Attorney Alex Acosta. Acosta would
- 7:15Speaker 1: go on to be named US Labor Secretary under President
- 7:19Speaker 1: Donald Trump. The conversation writer said did not get off
- 7:23Speaker 1: to a promising start. He basically said, in a very
- 7:26Speaker 1: measured manner that the defense in the case has successfully
- 7:29Speaker 1: delayed and frustrated their investigation and their prosecution of the case.
- 7:33Speaker 1: Writers said, imagine saying that this is a federal government
- 7:38Speaker 1: we're talking about, not some podunk backwater district, the federal
- 7:42Speaker 1: government that has unlimited resources, unlimited money onlimited prosecutors. But
- 7:48Speaker 1: they could do nothing here. They were being frustrated by
- 7:50Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein, huh? Or would they being frustrated by their
- 7:53Speaker 1: own bosses. That's what it comes down to, and in
- 7:56Speaker 1: my opinion, that's what was going on. Mukasey and Philip
- 8:00Speaker 1: they're the ones who slowed this all down, and they're
- 8:03Speaker 1: the ones who eventually made it go away. When you're
- 8:06Speaker 1: the boss, the buck stops with you. I don't want
- 8:08Speaker 1: to hear shit about middle management. I don't want to
- 8:10Speaker 1: hear anything about the supervisor on duty. You're the boss.
- 8:14Speaker 1: And that's why I always talk about Acosta being the
- 8:16Speaker 1: fall guy. He don't make those decisions, but the fact
- 8:20Speaker 1: that he went down for them is another tell that
- 8:22Speaker 1: this was a big cover up. But Writer left Acosta's
- 8:25Speaker 1: office hoping for the best after the prosecutors told them
- 8:29Speaker 1: they were moving forward with the investigation. I left that
- 8:33Speaker 1: meeting thinking, this guy hopefully is going to do his job.
- 8:36Speaker 1: Writer said. It didn't turn out the way Writer had hoped.
- 8:40Speaker 1: In two thousand and seven, Acosta made the decision not
- 8:42Speaker 1: to charge Epstein in federal court. Instead, he sent the
- 8:46Speaker 1: case back to the local prosecutors. How could you even
- 8:49Speaker 1: write that with a straight face? How could you say
- 8:51Speaker 1: that with a straight face. Anybody who knows anything about
- 8:54Speaker 1: anything knows that that's not the truth. That a guy
- 8:57Speaker 1: like Acosta isn't the one making that deal. It has
- 9:00Speaker 1: to get signed off on. We're talking about a bureaucracy here.
- 9:04Speaker 1: We're not talking about a guy with no notoriety. We're
- 9:07Speaker 1: not talking about somebody who's not connected. We're talking about
- 9:11Speaker 1: a guy that obviously had very very deep connections to
- 9:15Speaker 1: very very powerful people. So acting like Alex Acosta is
- 9:19Speaker 1: going to be the one to make that call has
- 9:21Speaker 1: always been ridiculous. Writer was crushed. The same office that
- 9:25Speaker 1: had seemingly refused to pursue Epstein aggressively was now back
- 9:28Speaker 1: in charge. Acosta agreed to sign a non prosecution deal
- 9:33Speaker 1: that ended the federal sex crimes investigation and spared Epstein
- 9:36Speaker 1: the prospect of serving several years in prison. Instead, Epstein
- 9:40Speaker 1: pleaded guilty to stay charges of soliciting a minor for
- 9:44Speaker 1: prostitution and served thirteen months at Palm Beach County jail.
- 9:48Speaker 1: Epstein was also required to register as a sex offender
- 9:52Speaker 1: and pay his restitution to his victims. So that made
- 9:55Speaker 1: it all better. Everything was all fine and well now, right, No,
- 10:00Speaker 1: the fact that they didn't go after Epstein here with
- 10:03Speaker 1: federal charges allowed Epstein to continue to operate all the
- 10:06Speaker 1: way up until he was arrested. So all those girls
- 10:10Speaker 1: who were molested and abused after he was arrested the
- 10:13Speaker 1: first time in Florida, that's directly on the hands of
- 10:17Speaker 1: the Department of Justice and the federal government. No wonder
- 10:21Speaker 1: they want this all to go away. I've never seen
- 10:26Speaker 1: anything like it, Writer said. It was extremely unusual and disappointing.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Writers said he believes a result would have been different
- 10:33Speaker 1: had the victims been underage boys. That would have shocked
- 10:37Speaker 1: the senses more. Writers said, somehow this hit a different
- 10:40Speaker 1: place and that they were young women on the way
- 10:43Speaker 1: to being women. Man, that's horrible to even think about.
- 10:47Speaker 1: How could you even think like that? Like I don't
- 10:50Speaker 1: even have a daughter, and the thought of a child,
- 10:53Speaker 1: a young high school girl, being lured into the clutches
- 10:56Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Epstein is just almost too much to stomach.
- 11:00Speaker 1: So I don't know how anybody with a daughter out
- 11:02Speaker 1: here could give Jeffrey Epstein any kind of deal. But unfortunately,
- 11:07Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who are sick in the
- 11:09Speaker 1: fucking head, and some of those people are the ones
- 11:12Speaker 1: who can make decisions about mine and your freedom. And
- 11:16Speaker 1: if that's not terrifying, I don't know what is. Epstein
- 11:22Speaker 1: was released from jail in the summer of two thousand
- 11:24Speaker 1: and nine. The case seen behind him until twenty eighteen,
- 11:27Speaker 1: when the Miami Herald published an expose highlighting the government's
- 11:31Speaker 1: kid glove treatment of a man accused of praying on
- 11:34Speaker 1: dozens of underage girls. Acosta defended the way his office
- 11:38Speaker 1: handled what he described as a complicated case. We believe
- 11:41Speaker 1: we proceeded appropriately, Acosta said during a July twenty nineteen
- 11:46Speaker 1: press conference. We did what we did because we wanted
- 11:49Speaker 1: to see Epstein go to jail. You had all the
- 11:52Speaker 1: evidence to send him to federal prison. Stop the bullshit.
- 11:56Speaker 1: All of the evidence was there. You didn't have the backbone,
- 11:59Speaker 1: Alex Acosta to stand up to your superiors. That's the
- 12:02Speaker 1: real story here, not that Alex's Acosta gave out a deal.
- 12:06Speaker 1: He didn't give out shit. Bro has no backbone, though,
- 12:09Speaker 1: and that's why he should be ridiculed. Imagine your boss
- 12:13Speaker 1: is coming to you and telling you that it's time
- 12:15Speaker 1: to let this go, that you're just going to kick
- 12:17Speaker 1: this back down to the state. I would lose my job.
- 12:20Speaker 1: I would go absolutely bonkers. I go to the OIG,
- 12:24Speaker 1: I go to the president, everybody. There is zero way
- 12:27Speaker 1: that I'd be okay with this, and any prosecutor that
- 12:30Speaker 1: is okay with it is a spineless ass pump and
- 12:33Speaker 1: there's no doubt that Acosta is certainly guilty of that.
- 12:36Speaker 1: But Acosta resigned as Labor Secretary two days later amid
- 12:40Speaker 1: mounting criticism. Krisher, the former state attorney, didn't return a
- 12:44Speaker 1: request for a comment from NBC News, but he released
- 12:48Speaker 1: a statement in July defending his office and pushing back
- 12:51Speaker 1: against acosta suggestion that the state prosecutors were driving the case.
- 12:55Speaker 1: If mister Acosta was truly concerned with the state's case
- 12:58Speaker 1: and felt he had to rest the matter, he would
- 13:01Speaker 1: have moved forward with the fifty three page indictment that
- 13:03Speaker 1: his own office drafted, Krisher said, And look, it's always
- 13:07Speaker 1: been a game of hot potato, all these agencies passing
- 13:11Speaker 1: the buck when they all played their part. But I
- 13:13Speaker 1: think the most egregious issue here is the federal government
- 13:17Speaker 1: kicking this back down to the state. They had everything
- 13:19Speaker 1: they needed, but instead they pumped out. Epstein was arrested
- 13:23Speaker 1: on fresh charges in July. New York federal prosecutors charged
- 13:27Speaker 1: them with sex trafficking and conspiracy in a case that
- 13:30Speaker 1: featured similar allegations to those a decade earlier. Epstein pleaded
- 13:35Speaker 1: not guilty, but he committed suicide allegedly inside his federal
- 13:39Speaker 1: jail cell last month. The death left Righter thinking about
- 13:42Speaker 1: the victims and their lost chance to see them held accountable.
- 13:46Speaker 1: I feel badly for the victims, Writer said. I realize
- 13:49Speaker 1: that there's catharsis in confronting Epstein, and they'll never have
- 13:53Speaker 1: that opportunity. But he hopes that the entirety of the
- 13:57Speaker 1: case will lead to systemic change. Yeah, how's that working out?
- 14:01Speaker 1: Six years later, how's it working out? Oh, that's right,
- 14:05Speaker 1: we're just moving on. So what has changed. Nothing? That's
- 14:09Speaker 1: what's changed, absolutely nothing. The criminal justice system needs to
- 14:14Speaker 1: learn from this and make sure it can't happen again,
- 14:17Speaker 1: said Rider, who still lives in Palm Beach where he
- 14:19Speaker 1: runs a security consulting firm. Writer wants to see legislation
- 14:24Speaker 1: that bars miners from being labeled as prostitutes in the
- 14:27Speaker 1: justice system. He also called on Florida lawmakers to close
- 14:30Speaker 1: the loopholes that allow people like Epstein to get away
- 14:33Speaker 1: with misdemeanors for child sex crimes. If you look at
- 14:36Speaker 1: the first dozen victims and their accounts of what happened
- 14:39Speaker 1: to them, it's clear to me he was coached by
- 14:41Speaker 1: a lawyer on how to only commit a misdemeanor. Writer said,
- 14:45Speaker 1: if you're a member of the legislature and you're out
- 14:47Speaker 1: listening to this right now, fix this. It needs to
- 14:50Speaker 1: be fixed. Writer also delivered a message to all those
- 14:54Speaker 1: girls whose lives were upbended by a middle aged sexual
- 14:57Speaker 1: predator with endless resources available to him. I don't have
- 15:01Speaker 1: any contact with the victims, and if they're listening now,
- 15:04Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed for the way the criminal justice system treated
- 15:07Speaker 1: them back then in Florida, Writer said, But I want
- 15:10Speaker 1: them to know that not every part of the system
- 15:12Speaker 1: failed them. We did our job in Palm Beach Police Department,
- 15:16Speaker 1: and everything that happened here should lead to in the future,
- 15:19Speaker 1: if any of these things happen again to some other victim,
- 15:22Speaker 1: that the system won't fail them. Chief Michael Ryder didn't
- 15:26Speaker 1: set out to make history. He wasn't chasing headlines, and
- 15:29Speaker 1: he didn't have a political agenda. He was a police
- 15:32Speaker 1: chief trying to do his job, trying to protect children,
- 15:35Speaker 1: trying to hold a predator accountable, trying to believe that
- 15:38Speaker 1: the system he served would do the right thing once
- 15:41Speaker 1: the truth was laid bare. But the truth wasn't enough.
- 15:45Speaker 1: The Epstein case in Palm Beach exposed a terrifying reality
- 15:49Speaker 1: that in America, the rules bend for the rich and
- 15:52Speaker 1: the powerful can buy not just silence, but immunity, and
- 15:56Speaker 1: Writers saw at firsthand. He saw a case with overwhelming
- 16:01Speaker 1: evidence get quietly gutted. He saw a prosecutor shrink in
- 16:04Speaker 1: the face of billion dollar pressure. And he saw a
- 16:07Speaker 1: man who should have faced decades behind bars walk away
- 16:10Speaker 1: with a wrist slab and a secret deal that shielded
- 16:14Speaker 1: his entire operation. And still Chief Writer refused to back down.
- 16:19Speaker 1: He went to the FBI, He wrote a letter to
- 16:21Speaker 1: the victims. He called out corruption when it would have
- 16:23Speaker 1: been safer to stay quiet, because he understood something that
- 16:27Speaker 1: most people in power seem to forget, that silence in
- 16:31Speaker 1: the face of injustice is complicity. In this episode, you
- 16:35Speaker 1: heard what he saw. You heard how the case was buried,
- 16:37Speaker 1: how justice was bought, how victims were sidelined, and how
- 16:41Speaker 1: the system at every level chose to protect a predator
- 16:45Speaker 1: over the truth. So the question now isn't just what happened,
- 16:49Speaker 1: it's why did it happen, and more importantly, who made
- 16:52Speaker 1: sure it did. This was never just about Jeffrey Epstein.
- 16:56Speaker 1: This was about the system. It was about the system
- 16:59Speaker 1: that at them thrive. All of the information that goes
- 17:03Speaker 1: with this episode can be found in the description box