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Trevor First Pitch and Outlook on the Offensive Line | Huddle Up: Wednesday, April 5 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: star rating. John Osier, Hello, are you are at the
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Speaker 1: base ball game last night? I was at the UH
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Speaker 1: I was at the game before the game. I didn't
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Speaker 1: stay for the strip game. You saw Trevor's first pitch.
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Speaker 1: I'm playing a good. A few strimp game this year.
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Speaker 1: Last night was not on the ones I went to
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Speaker 1: have ten. Fully, I did see Trevor's first pitch, and
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you for a guy who hand tone of
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Speaker 1: baseball and sometime he's got some heat. Let's hear from
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence after the first pitch on the performance. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I try to get a little warm with a little high.
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Speaker 1: But I was like, I gotta throw it hard, Like
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Speaker 1: I said, if I didn't throw things for a living,
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Speaker 1: I feel like I could have just lobbed it. But
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Speaker 1: I had to at least throw it. With some games
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Speaker 1: so little press were on that there. Yeah, a little
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Speaker 1: press are a little nervous coming out coming out of
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Speaker 1: the tunnel, but I'm happy. I just didn't want to
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Speaker 1: skip it in the dirt, so it was the catcher
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Speaker 1: caught it, you know, put a little bit on it.
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Speaker 1: I want to strike, but so we can improve for
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Speaker 1: next time. You didn't want to be the viral like short. No,
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be like a fifty cent when
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Speaker 1: you sent it to the dugout over there. So let's
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence after the first pitched out. John, I worked
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Speaker 1: nine years in mine league, baseball over seven hundred Sons games,
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Speaker 1: and I've seen a lot of ceremonial first pitches. This
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Speaker 1: is on the upper tier. I mean, he had some
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Speaker 1: heat to it. It wasn't a strike unless they swung
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Speaker 1: on it. But hey, I've seen a whole lot worse. Yes,
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Speaker 1: some inside baseball. Here inside baseball, because it's baseball. As
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Speaker 1: you know, they have a bullpen cage underneath the stadium.
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Speaker 1: So Trevor, we were talking to him beforehand and one
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Speaker 1: of the Sun's employees mentioned or not I'm trying that
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Speaker 1: Sons Jembo stramp trem Jacksonville. So I grew up on
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Speaker 1: the suns um and mentioned to him laughingly that the
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Speaker 1: fifties cent was not necessarily the worst he's ever seen.
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Speaker 1: And he shared another story of of of somebody who
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Speaker 1: had come out and was was, you know, sort of
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Speaker 1: doing the whole uh picture thing, taking it very seriously,
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Speaker 1: and the guys sailed it right into the dugout. So
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Speaker 1: he tells Trevor this story, and Trevor said, he's got
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Speaker 1: you thinking a little bit now. So there is a
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Speaker 1: little bit of an element to that, but I can't
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Speaker 1: I can tell you from watching Trevor's pitches underneath the tunnel.
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Speaker 1: He can throw. He he's got an arm and but
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Speaker 1: I don't think he's down a baseball quite some time.
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Speaker 1: It's different motion. He didn't want to mess it up,
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Speaker 1: but he could have pitched at six six. You know,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure if he'd chosen a different path, he probably
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Speaker 1: could have done that. Yeah, if yeah, sure, If he
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Speaker 1: wasn't focused on football right, probably could have focused on
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Speaker 1: something else and done very well at it. Well, you know,
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Speaker 1: obviously you guys spoke with Trevor after the fact. That
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Speaker 1: was part of the conversation was the first pitch, but
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Speaker 1: there was some football talk as well. He was asked
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Speaker 1: as if he's been throwing with Calvin Ridley so far. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we have. We have once, and I'm super excited and
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Speaker 1: we're excited to have him. He's gonna be another piece
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Speaker 1: for this offense and our team and then just a
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Speaker 1: good guy. We're excited to, you know, bring into the
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Speaker 1: locker room and it's gonna be a lot of funny.
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Speaker 1: You look forward to voluntary workouts. Oh yeah, well we'll
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Speaker 1: have a good crew there and that's such a cool
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Speaker 1: time of year. Everybody comes back. You get to start
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Speaker 1: building your team, building your foundation for the season, and
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Speaker 1: I'm really excited to start that all the guys, plus
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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence John Osan, we know you are a big
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Speaker 1: offseason workout type guy, so this is right up your alley.
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Speaker 1: You know. These are important though, for Trevor and especially
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Speaker 1: Ridley to kind of get on a somewhat of the
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Speaker 1: same page. You won't really know until training camp, preseason games,
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Speaker 1: all the real football things start happening. Yeah, my thought
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Speaker 1: on a lot of the getting together and throwing with
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Speaker 1: the receivers in the offseason, I think in reality that's
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Speaker 1: it's good for them if they want to do it.
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Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of window dressing and in
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Speaker 1: terms of what they gain on the field that's going
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Speaker 1: to translate out in November. I think it's terrific that
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Speaker 1: they want to get together and get to know each
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Speaker 1: other as people will be around each other and throwing
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Speaker 1: a football is something to do. To do that, I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure they wouldn't get the same benefit from going
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Speaker 1: to lunch, but I'm fine with Yeah, it's it's I'm
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Speaker 1: not putting down the idea. In the last four or
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Speaker 1: five years, since social media, I think we've taken the
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Speaker 1: whole let's take pictures of ourselves throwing in the off season.
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Speaker 1: It's almost like, if you don't do it, you're not trying.
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Speaker 1: I don't think if they didn't do it, they would
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Speaker 1: be any further behind when they got together. That being said,
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Speaker 1: I thought was what was interesting about the comment he
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Speaker 1: made about Ridley. There wasn't a whole lot of meat there.
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Speaker 1: But just as you get closer to the time where
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Speaker 1: Ridley's on the field with them and start thinking about
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Speaker 1: what he's going to bring. When we talked about it
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Speaker 1: last off season, when we mean last season when it
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Speaker 1: happened we talked about earlier the offseason, it still felt
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Speaker 1: sort of theoretical and oh, it's gonna be cool. Once
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Speaker 1: you start really thinking where this guy is gonna bring,
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Speaker 1: the impact that it really could make on this offense
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Speaker 1: starts getting very very real. And we've talked on this
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Speaker 1: show a lot about sort of pushing your chips in
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Speaker 1: on one side of the ball or the other. It
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Speaker 1: sure feels like what's developing is a chance to really
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Speaker 1: push in offensively and be a big time offense next year.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if we're moving on from the Trevor thoughts.
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Speaker 1: Yet I thought the best stuff that he said actually
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Speaker 1: was on Evan Ingram. All right, let's hear from Trevor
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Speaker 1: Lawrence on the tight end who has been franchise tagged huge.
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously that was a big, you know, priority
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Speaker 1: for us this offseason, and so to have him back
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Speaker 1: at least for this year and hopefully longer moving forward,
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's ideal. And just you saw kind
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Speaker 1: of what he did to our offense this last season
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Speaker 1: and how he came off at the end of the year,
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Speaker 1: and I think we really figured out, you know, how
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Speaker 1: to use them the right way. And I think we've
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Speaker 1: kind of he's helped us a time and we've maximized
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Speaker 1: what he can do, and just to keep building on that.
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Speaker 1: There's still more out there for him. That's the exciting
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Speaker 1: partist You look at his numbers and they were great,
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Speaker 1: and they were some of the best numbers for Jacksonville
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Speaker 1: tight ends ever and for him, but I feel like
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Speaker 1: he really didn't even catch on until the last back
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Speaker 1: half of the season. So to look at having a
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Speaker 1: full year of that, it's really exciting. That sky's a
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Speaker 1: limit and just for our offense too, all Right, that's
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Speaker 1: forty three seconds of answer on a question asked by
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Speaker 1: John Osier. Yeah, it happened to be my question, so
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Speaker 1: that's me paying myself on the back. But I did
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Speaker 1: think it was within the context of an offseason interview
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Speaker 1: done on a baseball field with a quarterback. I thought
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Speaker 1: it was interesting that he when I asked that, his
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Speaker 1: ears sort of perked up and he talked for much
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Speaker 1: longer than I thought he would about it. To me,
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Speaker 1: there was some meat there in the sense that I
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Speaker 1: really do think as they got to the end of
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Speaker 1: last season, if you think about what they did with
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Speaker 1: Evan Ingram late last season, the way they used him
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Speaker 1: and his effectiveness and his consistency went way way up
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Speaker 1: the second half the season. I don't think Trevor quite
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Speaker 1: knows yet how they're going to use Ridley because they
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Speaker 1: haven't had a stench really talk about it. And he'll
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Speaker 1: find out a lot more once they get in here
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Speaker 1: in April. But I think he knows from experience and
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Speaker 1: what he's seen and as a player and the chemistry
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Speaker 1: they have with Ingram. They're pretty close to Trevor and Ingram.
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Speaker 1: Evan was there last night there. They have a real relationship.
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Speaker 1: So what Trevor said last night sort of made me
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Speaker 1: rethink a little bit. Not that I didn't think Evan's
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Speaker 1: gonna have a big year coming back, but Trevor, Sir,
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Speaker 1: seems to think that there's a lot more for Evan
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Speaker 1: Ingram in this offense, which is interesting because I thought
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Speaker 1: Evan had a great year last year and the second
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Huddle Up Podcast. J P. Shadick,
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Speaker 1: John Oja, Bucky Brooks out this week. We'll have him
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Speaker 1: back next week. We're closing in on the NFL Draft
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Speaker 1: that's right around the corner. Jaguars continue to sign some
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Speaker 1: players as well, and let's start with that John. Couple
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Speaker 1: of offensive linemen this week Chandler Brewers signed on Wednesday.
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Speaker 1: Undrafted by the Rams in twenty nineteen, played in thirteen games,
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Speaker 1: four starts. He's from the Shoals area and Alabama. Played
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Speaker 1: at Middle Tennessee State though, and then Josh Wells earlier
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Speaker 1: this week. He was a twenty fourteen undrafted rookie by
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars out of James Madison. Spent a few years here,
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Speaker 1: moved on to Tampa Bay, has a Super Bowl ring.
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Speaker 1: Now he's back at the place where he started his career.
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Speaker 1: And you know, a really great guy obviously when he
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Speaker 1: was around here, just kind of working his way up.
10:19
Speaker 1: Same classic but Tyler Shatley. They came in together, right, unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: I laughed when I saw the messaging. You know, yesterday
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Speaker 1: they were going to resign, they were gonna sign Josh.
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Speaker 1: I laughed. Not because of um the quality of signing.
10:38
Speaker 1: I think it's it's designing that makes perfect sense. You've
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Speaker 1: got a veteran guy who has some ties to Jackson.
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Speaker 1: I'm understanding is he saws a house from when he
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Speaker 1: lived here. They'll be able to come back to be
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Speaker 1: very comfortable. It just struck me as funny because if
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Speaker 1: you if you had told anybody in twenty fourteen that
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Speaker 1: Josh Wells and Tyler Shatley would both be in the
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Speaker 1: top eight offensive lineman, which is very possible. With Josh,
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Speaker 1: it's you know, they're signing to be the swing tackle.
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Speaker 1: I think he's going to be active. I think he's
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Speaker 1: going to be a factor on the team. If you
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Speaker 1: told anybody that, including Josh and Tyler, they you know,
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Speaker 1: both of them would have signed up for that right
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Speaker 1: then met ten year careers. But nobody would have expected it.
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Speaker 1: But um, it's funny. It's one thing that I remember
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Speaker 1: learning about the league really early on was that often
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Speaker 1: offensive linemen it is one position where if you are
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Speaker 1: a six six, three hundred pound offensive lineman coming into
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Speaker 1: the league and you get and you come in as
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Speaker 1: an undrafted guy, it is the one position where if
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Speaker 1: if you stick around and you work, and you do
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Speaker 1: what the coaches are telling you to do, and you
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Speaker 1: put in the time. A lot of undrafted free agent
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Speaker 1: offensive linemen have long careers like this because it is
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Speaker 1: hard to find people of that size. And what it
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Speaker 1: was with the Colts, you had guys do it when
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Speaker 1: you've been here. Josh Wells is the perfect example that.
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Speaker 1: Nobody would have thought Josh Wells was gonna be a
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Speaker 1: ten year guy. But he put in the word, put
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Speaker 1: in the time in terms of how he fits, and
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Speaker 1: as you said, great guy, a perfect guy to have
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Speaker 1: in that spot. It makes particular sense. And it's a
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Speaker 1: kind of signing teams do this time of year. You're
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Speaker 1: leading into the draft. There's been all this talk and
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Speaker 1: I was one of them. Oh, they need to sign
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Speaker 1: they need to draft an offensive lineman late in the
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Speaker 1: first round so that he can be a Swan guy
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Speaker 1: and play guard. I don't think that's off the table,
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Speaker 1: but this is what general managers do as a draft
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Speaker 1: approaches to prevent from having to draft for need in
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Speaker 1: that spot. Now they don't have to go take one
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Speaker 1: at twenty four. Oh my goodness, we don't have a
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Speaker 1: swing tackle. I'm making us. What are we gonna do?
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Speaker 1: That's what forces bad draft picks. Now they can draft
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Speaker 1: with the idea of Okay, if we've got a guy
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Speaker 1: who works there, let's do it. If not, Josh Wells
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Speaker 1: can play that role. And we have been Barchett, you
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Speaker 1: know you can get it done. This is to make
13:23
Speaker 1: sure that you don't draft silly. Nobody wants to draft
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Speaker 1: silly game. No, no, they don't. And in fact, speaking
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Speaker 1: of the draft, it's three weeks and one day away
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Speaker 1: from today. That's insane. How about that three weeks from tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: I was thinking about that this morning. It's gone fast.
13:44
Speaker 1: It's been almost three months since the Kansas City again,
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Speaker 1: which is yeah, time flies when you're getting old. JP
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Speaker 1: just way to your mind, age quick. Three weeks away,
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Speaker 1: and of course we'll have coverage throughout that weekend on
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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com and all the coverage leading up in
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Speaker 1: a few weeks ahead. Offseason program starts in a couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks and players will be in for offseason workouts
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Speaker 1: in the weight room. I know you'll be down there
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Speaker 1: every day grinding with them. Well not unless they change
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Speaker 1: my code because they don't want me down there, but
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Speaker 1: they'll be looking forward and all kidding aside. I do
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Speaker 1: think this year's offseason programs we get closer, we'll talk
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Speaker 1: to we'll talk more to Bucky about it because he
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Speaker 1: loves it. But there's some significance this year's offseason program
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Speaker 1: way beyond what future offseasons offseason programs will hold. As
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Speaker 1: Trevor gets into year four year five, hopefully in this
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Speaker 1: offense this year's offseason program. I don't know if we
14:46
Speaker 1: as a as a media corps and observers will necessarily
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Speaker 1: feel how different and important it is. But I think
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Speaker 1: for Trevor and the offensive players this first year, coming
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Speaker 1: back with Doug and Press and Mike McCoy and everybody
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Speaker 1: having a chance to look at the offense, take out
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Speaker 1: what wasn't working great, really hone in on what they're
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Speaker 1: going to be doing. I think it's going to be
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Speaker 1: very interesting for the players to see how they're going
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Speaker 1: to approach things and how much more I guess streamlines
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Speaker 1: the word I'm looking for, the jump that we're all
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Speaker 1: talking about next season will start in those meetings. We
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Speaker 1: won't be able to feel that. We won't see that
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Speaker 1: big of a difference on the field because it's it's
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Speaker 1: a padless play, But what they're doing now this really
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Speaker 1: is an important offseason as they get that and get
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Speaker 1: ready for next season. In the future, it'll be it'll
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Speaker 1: be important for Trevor. For the other skill guys who've
15:45
Speaker 1: been around a little more, you might see not as
15:50
Speaker 1: high attendance because those guys sort of know what they're doing,
15:53
Speaker 1: and I harken back to Reggie Wayne. When I cover
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Speaker 1: the Colts, Peyton was there every year. Reggie would come
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Speaker 1: in for a couple of days at the beginning of
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Speaker 1: the program, make sure that he wasn't missing anything, and
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Speaker 1: then once they got into some repetition, he was back
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Speaker 1: in Miami. He did fine. So that tends happened a
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Speaker 1: little bit with an offense. It's been around for a while.
16:17
Speaker 1: This offense isn't quite there yet. One day they will be, though,
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Speaker 1: that's the hope. Well, yeah, it's trending that way. It's
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Speaker 1: training that way big time. And frankly, there were times
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Speaker 1: with the Colts to that point where they needed time
16:31
Speaker 1: with younger players too. Peyton was there. It'd be fine
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Speaker 1: for Reggie. How much was he gonna get out of
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Speaker 1: it in year eight? Really young guys who really wanted
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Speaker 1: to get they used it that way. They didn't tell
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Speaker 1: Reggie to leave, but they also couldn't tell him to
16:46
Speaker 1: stay because it's volunteer and as Edge and James said,
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Speaker 1: that's still the definition. John will done, We'll talk to
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Speaker 1: you again next week, and Bucky will be back with
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Speaker 1: us next Wedmsday. I will not be here next weeks,
16:58
Speaker 1: but Sea and solo about Wow, we're just we're rotating
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Speaker 1: the host or that's what happens sometimes. And I might
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Speaker 1: be back the next week if they let me back
17:06
Speaker 1: in the building. We'll see And then you know who
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Speaker 1: knows draft coverage like it's always day to day japer,
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Speaker 1: aren't we all? That's John Oser. I'm JP Standrick Joe
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Speaker 1: Fortunado on the audio side. Thank you for listening. We'll
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Speaker 1: catch you next time on the Huddle Up Podcast.