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RHOC Season 20 Episode 4 · Housewives, Goss and Glitter

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Hey guys, welcome to Housewives Gloss and Glitter.
• 0:02
  SPEAKER_00: Tonight Ashley and I are gonna do season 20, episode 4 of the Real Housewives of Orange County.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_00: And guys, the season just does not get better.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_00: Bore, boar, super snore fest.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_00: The redeeming thing is Carmela.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_00: If Carmela was not in this season, I don't think anything would be going on whatsoever.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_01: No, and I do take back what I said about Carmela because she's like the only one that I would hang out with on this whole cast.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she's like funny and like wants to lift people up and like is not an asshole.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure there's a main streak, but I haven't seen it.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm confused by people that are upset about her.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like, we'll talk about it, but I'm like, if my friend gave me a Dior clutch, I would be thrilled.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: New friend or not, you gave me a Dior clutch.
• 1:00
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, cool.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's a nice gesture.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like it's a nice gesture.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_01: I I mean, I don't want to be, I don't, I didn't get that impression from her.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_01: I just thought it was a nice gift.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, why are we like ripping this woman apart for buying a nice gift?
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, back to this episode.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_00: We start, we're in Gina's house, and Gina's house is like looks the most normal, I think, out of like any housewife's house I've seen.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like the outside looks normal, it looks normal on the inside, it's like tame in comparison, it's the normal size, but anyway, so I noticed that right away.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_00: But she's there with Emily and Shannon, and they're making TikToks, and the gift of the Dior bag comes up while they're doing it, and how she thinks it's like overextract, she's like super jealous because Emily is her bestie.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_01: She's very jelly over this gift because she got Emily a gigantic like snugget sweatshirt with two hoods, and Carmela got Emily a bedazzled Dior clutch, and I'm like, okay, I mean apples and oranges.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean silly gift versus nice gift, old friend versus newcomer to the group.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, why are we comparing?
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I would be happy with either one of the gifts just because of like if a friend gave me a funny one like that, I think it would be hilarious.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like the reflection, I would never be like, oh my god, someone gave Ashley or someone gave Sarah or Anna like a Dior bag.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_00: I'd be like, okay, well, I got them a ball of a second and I took them out to dinner.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I did.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_01: It truly, it truly is the thought that counts.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like, for me personally, at this point, like I don't expect any of my friends to get me gifts anymore.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_01: And when they do, I'm pleasantly surprised.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm not, I don't have any expectations.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's like weird that they're obsessing over this.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_01: Also, like they're like, Oh, it's it's a three thousand dollar clutch.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, yeah, but we're on the real housewives, like we've extravagant purses are par for the course.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_00: And again, like the way they've set it up with finances this whole season is like Shannon spent what that twelve hundred dollars on that bag when she was with Carmela in that resale store, and then like in another episode, or is it this episode?
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: We find out how much Carmela pays for rent.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: Carmela seems to be a lot more well off than the other housewives.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_00: Also, why is it any of their business?
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think she's even like just compared to other shows that we've seen.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_01: I like she's definitely well off, but like I don't think it's anything like insane.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I I mean well, every time in perspective is 35k, right?
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_01: But I mean, if you think about like New York or Beverly Hills, like that's not yeah, I'm not saying it's it is a lot, but like that's why we watch the housewives.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like, we're not watching like the real housewives of like Barnstable, like we're watching like it is a lot, but like that's why we watch.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_01: So, like it's the same thing with the clutch, like the clutch is a lot, but it's not like out of the realm.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, when you watch like Beverly Hills, they're like shopping for Birkins.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm like, they're actually like this is like it's an expensive gift, but they're actually like it's like an insane gift, and I'm like, not really, not for the show watching.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like they could easily go spend thousands of dollars in a night, and it wouldn't be a big deal, but like because it's in the form of a bag, it's an issue.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'll be honest, I don't know if my husband can hear me.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_01: I've spent two thousand dollars on a pair of boots before, so well, just don't let John know.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's fine.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, so yeah, I mean, it's not like it's not like appalling to me, is what I'm saying.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's a little a lot, it's a little much for a gift, but I guess if like you are financially comfortable, then it's not a big deal.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I think what she what she said actually made a lot of sense is when she described later, like she said normally like her and her group of friends usually go all in on a luxury item.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, that makes a lot of sense, and that actually is like a really nice idea.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that is true.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_01: So it yeah, I don't I don't think she was.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I made a really like bad call on Vicky right away, so maybe I'm making a bad call on Carmela right now, but it did not come across to me as disingenuous, it came across like she was just trying to be nice and it was a nice gesture, and like she didn't really think much of it, and everybody is like obsessed by it.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_00: I agree.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like they just want to keep it going, but okay, get off that subject for a second.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_00: Then Tamra calls everyone, and then she calls them to invite them to come over for a party for Vicky, because she hasn't been able to get into Mexico because of what's going on in Portavolar, and so there she's like, We're gonna have a Mexican party, a Mexican-themed party, and everyone's like, Okay, yay!
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_01: And then was that a Mexican-themed party, or was it just like the tacos?
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_01: Because that's the only thing that I saw that was like screaming Mexican.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_01: It was like a very blah for party planning.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_00: It was, it wasn't like the most extravagant, it wasn't the white party thrown by Kyle.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: No, so no, I was like, um, okay, there's Mexican food here.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_01: That's like all I'm seeing right now.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_00: I know, and then they didn't even eat together, but um, then from there we go to a workout class with Tamara, her friend Fernanda, who she said would be like her hall pass, Heather and Aaron.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: And Heather did not look like she was ready to work out at all.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: She was wearing a cardigan.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_01: And she and Tamara and Jen to a lesser extent were wearing like a full face of makeup, which I know they're filming, so I have thought about this a lot.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm like, oh, what if someday I got casted on the Real Housewives of Salem?
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I mean, I feel like I would be pressured to be wearing a full face of makeup all the time because like we're on TV.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I remember Alicia from Rory.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_01: I can't, I cannot say the name Rory, by the way.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_01: There's there's somebody that I know that will he'll never listen to this podcast, but his name is Rory, and his last name I'm not gonna say, but it's anyway.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_01: I can barely pronounce his name because I can't do the R's.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_01: But um, Alicia from Rory, why is it does it sound like it when you say that?
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_01: Rory, Rory?
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_01: I can't, I can barely say it.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: I can't say it fine.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, she said during the finale during the reunion that she wished she put more makeup on, and they were all kind of laughing.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, it's true though, because she is gorgeous, but sometimes like I'll like you'll take a picture and you'll think that you did your makeup, but you didn't put like enough on for videos and photo.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's like it's like you almost always have to be in almost like a stage makeup look for it to like show up.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_01: So I feel like that's what these anyways.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: They went to this workup class, and she Heather and Tamara were in like a full face of makeup, and yeah, Heather was in like a cardigan, like a leopard cardigan.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: Part of me feels like they had to have filmed the conversation before the class started and then flipped it because they weren't sweaty, yeah.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_00: So they weren't sweaty.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like I don't think these are real workout classes.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_01: Did you see the clip of the sexy cowgirl workout class that Carmela and Shannon took?
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, this is not like a real class, like, what are these fucking classes?
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_00: They were like talking about how hard it was, and it obviously like they must work out somehow in real life.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: They all looked ripped when they become show girls in Vegas, but like I guess because of 90% of my classes are all hot classes, like the ones that I take.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: I'm absolutely dripping sweat, like, and you have to have a towel.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_00: There is no way any ounce of makeup would stay on my face.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even think it would be comfortable work out in that much makeup.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_01: I think they go and then they don't actually participate in the class.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_00: I think they're gonna let them film because they just did like the five like reps and then like called it a day, and they're like swing the barbell, like the kettlebell, and then that's it, we're done.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: And like, yeah, it was it was interesting.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what do you think about this like Fernanda situation?
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like, Tamara has been in love with this woman since like 2011, and they did like a topless campaign together, and I'm like, there's a lot of like little hinting of this in the real housewives recently.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_00: I know it's kind of funny.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: I guess like you do you if you're friends.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_00: I think Tamara just wanted to see her boobs.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_01: I st okay, but like uh if you're a woman and you are straight, why are you getting excited about boobs?
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: Like we know what they're married, but maybe she still likes the lady, like admires it's just it's it's hard it's between this and hate the Haley thing, it's just hard for me to mix.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's not hard for me to understand not being straight.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I get that, I understand that.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_01: What's hard for me to understand is the whole like we're like besties and like we're gal pals, but also like the attraction, like that to me is where it's kind of like I feel like that's like a line in the sand.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know what I mean?
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like when you're friends and you really are just like friends and like silly ha-ha.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm not gonna be like seeing my friends' boobs and be like excited by that.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I know I have to agree.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_00: It maybe she was like playing it up for the camera, she needed something, and now that she has more time with her husband, she's been talking about more sexy time, so maybe she's got her mind preoccupied.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's just that's like a weird, like blurred line for me.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't know, it's just it's just an odd, it's an odd dynamic that's hard to relate to.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like your girlfriends, like your silly girlfriends that you like do these things with, like, I'm like an attraction too.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's just kind of also it's interesting, it's definitely a little weird.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_00: I can't say I feel that way about anyone.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: No, and I don't know if it's also like just being in like pageants and doing all that stuff.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you see, like I mean, like you're like walking around naked all the time, and like you it's for like the spray tint.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like, we've talked about this, like the spray tint.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like, it's like it's like nothing to me.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't, yeah, it's just like another day in the life.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm I don't know, it's just a little odd.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: It is odd, it is odd.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_01: I like how we're getting a different vibe than dating somebody, is what I'm trying to say.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: It definitely is.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: I like how distracted we're getting about like what actually went on in this scene.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we oh, because I wanted to ask you a question though.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry to interrupt before we move on from Fernanda.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted to ask you a question.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_01: So, Tamra, there was a clip when she was talking about her crush on Fernanda.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_01: There was a clip where back in like I want to say 2011, she was having a conversation with Fernanda about how, like, do you think it's okay if like my husband thinks it's fine if I kiss another girl, but crossing a line if the girl is gay, and Fernanda was like, Oh, I don't think that's crossing a line.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like, thoughts I know John wouldn't like that.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I was gonna say later wouldn't like that.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: If I'm not saying it would the roles would reverse, but either way, I don't think I don't know.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's weird.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'd be like, I don't know how I feel about that.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't like that at all.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't like that at all.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'd be like, no.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: So I think I don't know.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm I have to be with Tamara's husband on this.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_00: So I'd yeah, yeah.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think it wouldn't matter if they were gay or straight.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: Either way, it would be like a no-no.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I have done it once, but it was like a really long time ago.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I also didn't like it.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: How many glasses of wine did you have then?
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: It was in John does know about this, but I I didn't like it.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_01: I was in Vegas with my friends from Semester at C, Mina, and Ailey.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_01: So this was in when did we go?
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_01: When did I graduate?
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: 2013.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: So this must have been like 2014, 2015.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: We were in Vegas and we were at the cosmopolitan at the club there, and these guys had this like booth, and um, it was like a divorce they were having like a divorce party, and I'm just like, whoo, like dancing on the booth, because I like what wasn't gonna dance with any of the guys, and they definitely had like escorts in the booth, and one of the escorts started to like kiss me, and I did let her, but then she she grabbed my boob, and I was like, Okay, whoa.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like, no, I'm good.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like it was really aggressive, and I was like, and I just was very uncomfortable.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I I defin I'll take responsibility for that because I definitely like made it seem like it was okay, but it I was weirded out for sure.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like it was too much, it was too much.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was too much grabbing.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, whoa, like I'm not into that.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_01: I it was just a lot.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I wouldn't do that with anybody out on the dance floor.
• 16:04
  unknown: Yeah.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: So anyway, and I also just that's the only time I've ever kissed a woman, and it was just like too no, it was just too feminine.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm a woman, I have the big soft lips.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't want to kiss another woman, like I'm not into that.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_01: So, anyway, can confirmed.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, okay.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_01: I know somebody that made out with your sister, huh?
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: I know somebody that made out with your sister.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I wouldn't be surprised.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: Not well, I mean, I know she's made out with a lot of people, but oh girl, I'm gonna say it on the podcast because I'm like, what are the chances that they're actually gonna listen to this clip?
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_01: Jen made out at one of the twins' house parties.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: Weird, it sounds like something that would go on at one of those parties.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_01: So many weird things happened at those parties, and now it's like kids don't even like have basement parties anymore.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, you're missing so many crucial aspects.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think it was helpful that you had a set of parents who didn't mind the kids using the basement anytime they wanted for parties.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but there were so many parents like that.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_01: I can't even tell you how many like people had parents like that growing up.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: They like weren't even they weren't even like my friends.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: You're uh we yeah, but like my house was like the fun place, but nothing like that.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_01: I was literally gonna say I was like your house, but I like there were so many people's houses that I would go to and I'd be like, is anybody even home?
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: And like I remember my mom and Joe left when we had the house party.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: No, we did it for my birthday, and then also Lacey and I had another one senior year.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: That was because my mom and Joe just like were like gone.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_01: They went to Florida for like weeks, and I was just like there alone.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, yeah, no, open season, baby.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, anyway, we got a moon bounce.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: I remember the moon bounce.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, but that so this is the thing is if you're gonna throw a party, even if it is just a house party, you have to have a wow factor.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I slip and slide at a grad party 100%.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the thing is I don't just want like a boring house party drinking like your swill.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I want a cocktail, which even at my 19th birthday, we had somebos and special glasses for margaritas, which is for 19-year-olds, it's pretty good.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: Did we actually have margaritas or were we just mixing Malibu with like something?
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever for 19, that's pretty good.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_01: And then the wow factor, which is a moon bounce, like taking the time to call up a moon bounce company and have them come and blow that up.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I mean, bored entertainers.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: I yes, yes, but it's got to be a wow factor.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_01: You have to have a wow factor, and that's a thousand times better than some loser that just invites you to come over and hang out in their basement.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, oh no, we're gonna have like a real party, so that's why this Mexican party with just tacos, it's like, what else is there?
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: I know you need like a whole theme and music and stuff playing in the background.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: I feel you, right?
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_01: So okay, anyway, anyway, this is really a couple boring episodes, so we're adding like a little bit of spice to it, a little bit of hot goss.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: Thing was they started with Heather, and Heather tells talk talks about like Shannon's social media, and then some reason Tamara is mad at Heather for not putting her on her TikTok, but taking the videos, and I'm like, is this what this season is?
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: You're getting mad at someone for not doing it because all because Heather was like, Oh, I I gave Shannon an intervention because she needs to monetize her TikTok.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: So the the whole TikTok thing is so fucking stupid.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, Tamra's like mad at her over not filming TikTok videos together, and I'm like, I do not fucking care about this at all.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: And second of all, like, does Shannon have any more marketable skills?
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_01: Because I just blowing out a candle with a nylon over your head over a watermelon.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: I just don't I don't know what that is, but I'm like, why are we making this woman in her 60s or whatever like do this?
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: This is like embarrassing.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_01: She's gotta have something else to do.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: It was so weird, and I was like, this is this is a waste of time, and yeah, they bring it up numerous episodes later too, because then when they're in Vegas, they talk about a scavenger hunt being only for TikTok material or something.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's I like it's just annoying.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I understand that like for our podcast, like we have to have run our TikTok, but like I don't live my life day to day thinking like oh, I have to like do something that's recordable for TikTok.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: No, and I just the only reason I even have TikTok is for the podcast, right?
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: And we record things about the housewives.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't, I'm sorry, like I sometimes when I see, and like a lot of this is gonna go on TikTok, so maybe some people will hate this, but like I cannot stand when I'm doing just like a regular day to day thing, and somebody is sitting there just like recording absolutely nothing for TikTok.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I took the bus up to New York last February for fashion week because it just worked out better than the flight.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, anyway, so I took like the early morning bus from South.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Station the like the 5 a.m.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh I just don't and then this girl was just sitting there and I swear to god she like she was like live recording like the whole ride of her just sitting on the bus and I'm like who the fuck is watching this?
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: You're gonna watch somebody ride the greyhound?
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_01: Like why?
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna get yeah, that is very bizarre, like so bizarre.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: Speaking of bizarre, this next scene with Vicky and her son at the Mexican restaurant, and she asks her son if he is going to freeze his sperm because he is 40 and doesn't have any kids.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: Do you freeze your sperm?
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know a lot about that.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, if you really want a kid, I'm assuming it's gotta be a possibility.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: You free I know you have to freeze your eggs, but you do that for sperm too.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_01: I've never heard of this.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'm wondering if because she's worried he's gonna have a low sperm count or something the older he gets.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_01: Old dismorded, or what is it?
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_01: The what?
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'm thinking of Vanderpump Rules when they told Tom Sandoval that he had like abnormal looking sperm.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, that's something I never need to know.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's gross.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: But I guess like her son, he lives in Spain, he works remotely for Kodo, he doesn't have kids.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: He's apparently super close.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_00: This was interesting to me.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: So he's apparently super close to his sister, but he hasn't seen her in eight years.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: Eight years.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, but if you're in Spain and you're working for Vicky, and Vicki obviously has money, and she's hinted that she helps pay someone's rent, one of her kids' rent, or something, and she's obsessed with her grandkids.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: Why wouldn't she try and get the family together?
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like it has to be a possibility.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_01: I wrote down that I think there's more to this story with Vicky's family because I feel like there's some sort of a rift.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like, she kind of hinted at it.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: She kind of hinted at it with um saying that like Brianna's like really close to Dale, and I think that there's some sort of a rift, and they're just not saying it.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_01: And that's why I feel like these women are like way too aware of the cameras because we're getting like no detail, but the story made no sense.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like, Brianna lives in Oklahoma, she and her brother are super close, they haven't seen each other in eight years.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, not really, and it doesn't seem like Brianna talks to Vicky, I don't think.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, does she?
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_01: We have to look this up.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure some of the fans know, but um, I feel like there's something there for sure because she like emotionally cheated on Dale with that guy that pretended he was dying, which is like really embarrassing, BT Dubs.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: Very I watched a whole thing on it and I reposted it on our TikTok or Instagram, and Heather and Shannon were talking about it, and it was insane.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: I think they were on Watch What Happens live, and they were telling Andy about it, or they were on a podcast, I can't remember, something like that, and I was like, Well, that has to be reposted.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: But they were like, they were like, something didn't add up, but like Vicky didn't want to admit it, and they like couldn't bring it up, yeah.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, oh, it's not Dale, it's Dawn.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: Dale is Haley's driver, yeah.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think there's more tea around that situation, so we need to look that up.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: But I don't know about frozen sperm either.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: I think a guy's sperm is like more, I guess, long-lasting when they're older than the eggs.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like that's why you hear about a lot of women freezing their eggs in their 30s because like you can have like Robert De Niro literally just had kids.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's true.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_01: And he's like a thing.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe Vicky just rattled something off.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_00: Who knows?
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: And then I'm like, should we know more?
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, we don't need to know any of this.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: We don't need to know because we're we just have dogs and cats.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so now we're at Lady's night.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: Ladies night, yep, yep.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I hated Aaron Aaron's outfit.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's like so young Eren's with like the plaid.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, Jen.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, not yeah, I was gonna say she it was she had like a schoolgirl um skirt on, which was kind of they're they're weird with the fashion.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, with the knee-high boots and the cardigan.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_01: So here's the thing with me.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_01: I did actually write this down and I knew you were gonna say that because we have like a lot of the same views on fashion.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: If you're going to wear a short skirt like that, especially if you and I really hate this because I don't think you have to be a certain age to wear certain things, but I do think that like a more mature version of that is the short skirt with some sort of tight underneath, and then a thigh high boot, not a short skirt with a just a knee high boot.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know what I mean?
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_00: Or a booty or like a mixture.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_01: A thigh high with a black tight underneath with the short skirt.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_00: You need a shorter boot, like a booty, or a booty, yeah, exactly.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: To lengthen the leg.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: Knee high went, I kind of look like a schoolgirl stripper.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_01: It was that's what I mean.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like it was too, it was like that with the short plaid skirt, was like too classic schoolgirl, which is like, what are we doing here?
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: But if she had either the booty with a tight or a tight with the thigh high, that would have looked like picture it with a black tight with like a black um suede thigh high, yeah.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it would have looked way better.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I completely agree.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_01: Carmela's fucking nails were lemon juice.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: I get lemon juice all the time.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_01: I love those.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_01: I loved how long they were.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_01: I love a coffin nail, it's totally unprofessional and I love it.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: I always get coffin.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: I know, I loved it too, and I love the color because if it's not lemon juice, I'll be astounded because I get lemon juice all the time.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, Elaine currently has lemon juice.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_00: We both get it quite often.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_00: It is, but uh, I thought it was funny that when they're ordering dinner, they order a whole steak for the table, just like one steak, and there's a bunch of them, and I'm like, This is what I'm talking about.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like you know how big the steak is, then I don't personally want a steak, but I also don't want to share my dinner with like five fucking people.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like we were just talking about this, but like yeah, I just want to get a meal for me, like share an app, but like a dinner.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to like share my meal with a bunch of fucking people.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: The only thing I could think of was like maybe it was a uh family style.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_01: You know it wasn't though.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_01: They just don't eat on this show.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, well, we're gonna split a salad.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: So weird.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_01: Sheena, she's like, Oh, I'll get a hot water.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, okay, I'm not like trying to diss you because you don't drink alcohol, but like a hot water, a hot water with lemon all the time.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_00: I don't get it.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's like there's why can't you drink anything else?
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's you're telling me they don't have tea.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say tea.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: Every restaurant has fucking tea.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's uh really just weird, like a hot water.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's so weird.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I've never found that.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: I I've literally never heard that until I started watching The Housewives that people just drink hot fucking water.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_00: I know it's so weird.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: I like how they were talking about the cowboy sex workout though, and I don't understand why that wasn't a major part of an episode.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_01: What even is that?
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_01: What is that?
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_01: Work out class, it was stripper poles, but like Carmela was humping Shannon.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's true.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: I just wish that was an actual part of an episode because that would have made for a good episode.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just Fernanda TikTok nonsense.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_01: I don't give a yeah, I don't give a shit about TikTok.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_01: I yeah, that workout class was weird.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_01: I also felt bad because Carmela, I feel like, is just trying to have like a night out, and she was like confronted about this bag.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like I was like, it's kind of rude to show up somewhere and tell somebody that the gift that they got for them was like too nice.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like Emily was like, right, she totally threw her friend under the bus.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_01: Not only did she make like I don't really like Emily right now because I feel like not only did she throw her best friend under the bus that was like talking shit, like Gina was talking shit, but they're friends, so she should have never repeated that conversation.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_01: But on top of that, you're like then making Carmella feel uncomfortable for giving you a nice gift.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's like you're just double shitty for doing that.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like, why?
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: I know how good is that she's like, Oh, by the way, everybody's talking about how like weird it is that you got me like this nice bag, and I'm like, that's not nice.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_01: Why are you doing that?
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_00: And then she's like, and no one understands your job.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_00: I she said what her job is a thousand times.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: I don't like this narrative at all.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like this is very like disempowering to women who work.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_01: I don't like it at all.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's like they're really just like dragging her, especially Vicky, because they don't think that she it's almost like they don't believe that she could have like a professional job.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, why are you assuming that?
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that's fucking rude.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like, why are you dragging somebody who's out there making their own money?
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, and then trying to like empower people, and then Carmelo's like, no, I bust my ass.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_00: My rent is 35k, like, and I have kids and like a boyfriend.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know, it's so weird.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: I just a couple of points though, is like one there's so much more I'd rather do with 35k than pay rent.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_01: I think that like truth, I think you could get an amazing space in Orange County or San Diego for like 10 or 15k.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like just saying.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_01: Second thing is she said that she got she started this career because she wanted to have her own thing because this Jeff guy was like unfaithful to her.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, why are we still with Jeff?
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like Isn't Jeff her last husband?
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_01: Jeff was the oh, okay.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_01: So she was talking about her husband then, her ex-husband.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_01: Now she's with Danny, who's also been unfaithful.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, why are we with this unfaithful guy?
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like, if you're making your own money, I mean, maybe it's like he's providing her with more of a lifestyle than she could provide herself, but I'm just like thinking to myself, like, this guy is probably like 20, 25 years older than her.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_01: She's like a Playboy centerfold, and he's still fucking cheating.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I know what the So there was a thing that I was reading that was like a conspiracy theory that was like she is on the housewives now, so she can get ready to ditch him.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_01: I just read two hours ago that they broke up.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, see?
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's it.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_01: Because when you said you wanted to talk about rumors, I was or no, you had like what we talked about for posting.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_01: It was like, oh, theories and conspiracy theories.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I was gonna say, my theory is that Carmela and Danny are gonna break up and she's on the show to like make some more money.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: And then I like saw that they broke up like two hours ago or something, it was reported.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, yeah, I missed that because I was looking up a whole bunch of stuff today, and so that must be like new from when I should be broken up.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, if you think about it, like her daughters are in high school, she's only gonna have herself to take care of.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you don't need to pay$35,000 for rent, and she has a good career already down the street.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, like, further away.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you could have a really nice base for just yourself and for your daughters to come home to when they need to, and not be spending that crazy amount of money, and like you are already making good money, so just get rid of them.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like, she doesn't need to be living in that like palatial estate.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's like there's like no, it's all it's so bad looking, too.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's ridiculous.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's just so necessary.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you can't possibly enjoy that entire house.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what the hell are you doing in all those rooms?
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_01: Ugh, like I certain things I get, like, if I had that kind of money, like I'd want a private pool, I'd want a private gym, like those types of things, but like all of that space, it's like who is taking up all this space?
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what are you doing?
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_01: No one, no one, like, there's no one in there, it's just not necessary.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you could get a really beautiful place for a lot less.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_01: Just saying.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, I know, I know it's ridiculous.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_00: Then we see her meet with a client because she wants to flip a house or sell a house, and so she's meeting with a client, so that was kind of eye-opening.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_00: I called it though.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_00: When I watched this scene, I was like, She's either Ben with the selling sunset ladies or she works for Oppenheim the Oppenheim group, and then we find out later that she does.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: She works for the Oppenheim group, yeah.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, and I was like, huh, I called it.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, that was kind of boring.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: It was just like a tidbit indoor business.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: Then we go to Tamara, Vicky, Heather, and Shannon going whale watching.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_01: Now I'm not interested in whale watching.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_00: I would do it, I think it'd be fun, but I just like being on boats, so I would totally do it.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_00: But I thought it was funny because they called out Heather because she was wearing Louis Vuitton shoes that were rubber, but then um freaking the was it Shannon or Vicky were was wearing Fendi pants.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, we're ragging on her for the Louis Vuitton shoes, but you guys are literally wearing like Fendi pants on a whale watch.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_01: What are you supposed to wear on a whale watch?
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure, but then Tamara has like this big emotional thing because she was so happy that Shannon offered to help her decorate for this party, and we find more hate from Vicky on Carmela.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_00: It was really kind of boring, and then we go to Tamara's house and she's helping Tamara decorate.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, I have something about Vicky on the Whale Watch.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_00: What did you have for Vicki on the Whale Watch?
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_00: She started screaming about Carmela, yes, like the whole I hate Carmela, she's up to no good.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_00: No, she was lying.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_01: She was like, They started talking about how Carmela's a center vault, and she was like, I'm not impressed.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like she was like doing her crazy scream.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, I'm not impressed.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_00: I don't understand this crazy scream and how she is her age and still doing a crazy scream.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's really like she like really hates Carmela for and they haven't had any bad interactions.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, she's very passionate about like how much she hates her.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, this is getting to be, it's just giving off very jealous vibes.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't even know if she actually is jealous, but that's how it's coming across.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, then my favorite part is a few episodes later, she pretends not to have ever met Carmilla or know her.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_01: That's in the next episode.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, Hi, I'm Vicky, nice to meet you.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, You've met twice, like she's such a bitch.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I can't.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, That was so rude.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was so rude, but yeah, she was like, I'm not impressed, that's not impressive.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Oh my god, like why are you?
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_00: No one cares what you think, Vicky.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_00: She's such a prude.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_01: She's just really, yeah, she like really hates her.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, okay, wow.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um, okay, yeah.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_01: So they're at Tamra's then for their Mexican fiesta, and I will say Tamara's like burgundy look here with like the leather pants and then the lace.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_00: Super cute.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_00: Amazing.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_01: She's the best dressed on the show for sure.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: She is 100%.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_00: I was thinking that.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, her and then Heather always look great, questionable all the time.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_00: Not old Canon, but Carmela.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: No, Carmela's just still very like she could be dressing for like the early 2000s, still, which I'm into because she wears a lot of the like tank tops with the jeans, which is like yeah, like the giant belt buckles.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_00: I wrote about one of the giant belt buckles.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I love that.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_01: I still have a lot of jeans that look like what she wears, and I have like a baby top that has like the rhinestones on it.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_01: So, like, I personally like it, but it's very like early 2000s.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um Vicky wears like exclusively tweed, apparently.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_00: I know, except for when she's wearing like a denim suit.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, but I love that denim suit.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, ooh, I do too, but I'm just saying it goes from tweed to denim suit.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_01: I was like happy to see her in the denim suit, but I like tweed.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's just that there's a time and a place for tweed.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, like I'm not going out for cocktails and wearing tweed.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like, no, no, it's a lot, it's also very heavy for being in orange county.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's not cold, it's just like I can't, I don't get it.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: Shannon's style is so bad.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like that flowered shirt she was wearing for the Fiesta was like terrible.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh my god.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_00: Come on, try a bit.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, this was the crazy part.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_00: So Tamara's and Shannon are setting up, and she wants to play was it friend in a box or whatever.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_01: So stupid.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's like this is a big stir-the-pop party.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, this is a horrible, horrible idea.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_00: I have no idea what she's thinking.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna go over just as well as the one that happened on Rory, where Kelsey and Rose Rosie ended up throwing them over the edge into the bushes.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's what should have happened.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_00: This is like one of these things.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: I was watching Salt Lake City, and I don't remember if it was last season or the season before, but Heather on Salt Lake City was like, let's all go around and read out the meanest text message that we have on our phones about another person here.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_01: And she's like acting like it was gonna be this like super freeing, like deep exercise.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, You're the biggest fucking potster that has ever lived on this franchise.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_00: That is insane, it's stupid as fuck.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's it get this party goes south like real fast.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you have-I know, but the stuff that they're fighting about is so stupid.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_00: I know, like the thing is Vicky getting called a Debbie Downer.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't realize that this would last the whole rest of the season.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's not that severe of an insult, and she is really like carrying this forward, like this is gonna be like a big thing, and I'm like, okay, it's insane.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_00: I know, and then like Emily is like, it's not, I just miss the whoop it up, Vicky, like whoop it up, Vicky, and then Tamara calling Heather only her social bestie, so she's her best friend in social settings, but not in real life, yeah.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_00: Jen basically like reams Heather out, and then Emily gets mad at Heather for talking too much.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like a hot mess.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know, and then she and then Shannon saying that Jen is obsessed with Tamara and everything that's going on, and Jen is obsessed with Tamara and Heather.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_00: She is, yeah.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like she's obsessed, yeah.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_01: She was like, What?
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: I can't believe she would say that about me.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's like every single scene of this whole series, you've been discussing their relationship.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_01: Even when they were at the gym and Heather and Tamara were talking about the TikTok.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_01: Jen like jumped on it immediately.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_01: She was like, Oh, even I'm confused about your relationship.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, yeah, we know.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_01: You've talked about it like every single fucking episode.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like you're obsessed.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_01: She's obsessed with it.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_00: Just so obsessed.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a good thing.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_01: Obsessed was the right word.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_01: She's brought it up every single episode multiple times.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yes, I agree.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think though putting anything in these boxes helped solve any issues, and anyone went home feeling better.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_01: I also love how Emily said that Vicky was a Debbie Downer and Vicky goes, I'm not a Debbie Downer.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a positive bitch.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_01: And then she's like, but I'm like trying to get through this surgery.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_01: And she started like talking about all these negative things.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, this is so funny.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, you are the worst because she is a Debbie Downer.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_00: She's totally a Debbie Downer.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't want to hang out with Vicky.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh hold on, let me see if I have any more notes about that.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um oh, yeah, and then also too, Vicky goes in on Carmela again, except Carmela's not here.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_01: She said that Carmela only pseudo lives in Orange County because she rents, and then she says that she's not in development, she's an administrative assistant, and then she's like, She's a house flipper, she's not a developer, like in her crazy like screeching.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, why do you hate this woman so much?
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like, they haven't had any bad interactions yet, and Vicky like fucking hates her.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, she doesn't violin and do anything, she's just a flipper.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_00: But calling her an admin is a little ridiculous.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_01: She's not an admin, she's not an admin.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm not in real estate, and I so I don't know, but I don't get the impression that Carmilla's like making anything up.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't know, even if it's the case that she rehabilitates houses and sells them, it's like, okay, is that like a bad thing?
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_01: Like, Vicky's talking about her like she's like this big fraud, and I'm like, I don't feel like anything she's said is like a lie or I know it's a little like she's not an administrative assistant.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_00: No, can I be right back?
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_00: Hold on.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_00: I just want to do one thing.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_00: Two seconds.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_01: She's going to go look slater's belly button.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_00: Gotta edit that out.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_00: I just wanted to say goodnight to sleep and kitten.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_00: So Vicky, it doesn't end on a good no, and Vicki's just mad and everyone's mad.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_00: I think the only thing is that that's nice is that Tamara says that she's sorry to Shannon.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I think I did feel kind of like Tamara, if she's being genuine, it seems like she like really is happy to like try to get Shannon back as a friend.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, which is nice.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think that's nice, but yeah, other than that, I don't know.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_00: There was really nothing else going on.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_00: Not really, no episode.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_00: There was a lot of filler in here.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_00: Well, guys, you want to thank you for listening to us recap episode four, and we will be doing five soon.